[00:28] <Unit193> There is a little too much of a connection issue here...
[00:57] <Unit193> charlie-tca , bazhang , TheSheep: Requesting temp redirect for superbest
[00:57] <compro01> what is the username/password for the liveCD?
[00:58] <compro01> i've tried ubuntu and a blank password, but it doesn't work
[00:59] <Unit193> compro01: Did you try keeping both blank?
[00:59] <compro01> yes, it just chucks "authentication failure" at me then.  using ubuntu/blank, it appears to accept it, then X appears to restart and it chucks me the username/password prompt again
[01:01] <Unit193> compro01: This is what I found: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD#Logging%20in Could you be having X errors? Maybe try logging in with TTY1?
[01:04] <compro01> Unit193, how do you do that on the liveCD?
[01:05] <Unit193> !tty | compro01
[01:10] <compro01> Unit193, interesting.  looking at TTY1, i am already logged in as ubuntu
[01:12] <Unit193> compro01: sudo passwd ubuntu   You can then set your password
[01:19] <compro01> Unit193, doesn't appear to be working.  after entering that command, it just sits there doing nothing.  as an aside, i also can't switch back to the gui prompt, it just gives me bunches of colourful lines
[01:21] <Unit193> Did you see a "Welcome to Ubuntu!" message?
[01:21] <compro01> at the top? yeah.  "welcome to ubuntu 11.04 (GNU/Linux", etc.
[01:22] <compro01> shows me the "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$" prompt, accepts the command as typed, then does nothing at all
[01:22] <Unit193> And something like    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$   ?
[01:22]  * Unit193 brain fart
[01:23] <Unit193> I would wait for the next helper...
[01:24] <compro01> yeah, and this is just a secondary problem.  my inital problem is that the installer just up and crashes
[01:24] <Unit193> Did you try the AltCD?
[01:25] <compro01> i think that's my next idea.
[01:26] <Unit193> Or you could wait for the next support person...
[02:27] <n2diy> the hard drive on my main box crashed, so I moved the the HD from my backup box into the main box. Everything seems ok except for some of the graphics. I.E. Mines takes for ever to load, initially, and between games. During this, Xorg is consuming most of the system memory?
[04:00] <compro01> Unit193, just FYI, the alternate install CD worked fine.  thanks for the attempted assistance even though it didn't help much
[04:39] <taylor_> Xubuntu is amazing. :)
[04:40] <drc> Truly Amazing, Gracie.
[07:43] <gynter> I would like to use LVM, are partitions / (rootfs, 2G), /tmp (tmp, 5G), /var (var, 5G), /usr (usr, 20G), /home (home, 250G) ok?
[07:44] <gynter>  /boot will be on non-lv partition (sda1) 500MB
[09:10] <carter_> hey hey
[09:12] <carter_> so i cant stand unity..so switching to XFCE
[09:13] <TheSheep> yeah, that's common
[09:37] <elros> you can also think about lxde
[09:43] <TeXnicer> Hi there. I do help in #latex-de. I found out that people installing texlive under #xubuntu usually cannot access the "tlmgr"-utility for maintance the texlive-installation. Does anyone present call tell me something about that? Specificallý we are looking for [ngerman]{babel} ... I do not know how to look for packages under xubuntu.
[09:43] <Moe> hey guys
[09:44] <TeXnicer> We look for [ngerman]{babel} under texlive2009 under xubuntu... any dice to find it. Alternative: how to work with tlmgr under xubuntu, since it seems not present should be part of texlive installation
[09:45] <elros> TeXnicer, I cannot use that command either. I suspect that the latex packages in ubuntu are all handled trough apt. If you want custom packages, you can install them to your home directory in ~/texmf and run texhash ~/texmf
[09:45] <TeXnicer> ah okay.
[09:45] <TeXnicer> thanks
[09:46] <elros> some useful packages are texlive-latex3 and texlive-math-extra
[09:46] <TeXnicer> elros: We go through that, right. Precisely what I was looking for. Hoping that helps ;)
[09:46] <elros> glad to help
[09:47] <Moe> Having issues with an upgraded maverick install here .. the natty installation supposedly starts a gnome-session daemon which obviously upsets xfce4-session and leaves the user without xfwm4 for instance. I already reset the environment (basically removed all the relevant configuration directories) .. still, no go .. any pointers?
[09:55] <TeXnicer> elros: any dice to get a "apt-cache search texlive" for an yesterday-xubuntu-version?
[09:55] <TeXnicer> elros: can you use [ngerman]{babel} ?
[09:56] <Unit193> !info texlive
[09:58] <elros> well, you could install texlive-lang-de
[09:58] <elros> I'm not a german, so german babel packages aren't my speciality
[09:59] <elros> all I know that texlive-lang-fi gave me finnish hyphenation
[09:59] <elros> !info texlive-lang-de
[10:00] <elros> oh
[10:00] <elros> !info texlive-lang-fi
[10:00] <elros> !info texlive-lang-finnish
[10:00] <Unit193> !info texlive-lang-german
[10:01] <elros> TeXnicer, install texlive-lang-german and try again
[10:41] <TeXnicer> elros: Keep that for record. T'was texlive-lang-german ;)
[10:41] <TeXnicer> elros: German by any chance?
[10:41] <elros> nope, a Finn
[10:42] <TeXnicer> .oO Just thought... who would have thought that ;)
[10:42] <elros> have read german in school, so high five
[10:42] <TeXnicer> To all latex-o-phils (I mean texlive and stuff)   AND German-speaking  #latex-de </advertising>
[10:42] <TeXnicer> .'´´#  <--- sort of a hand
[11:00] <miro_> Hej, i have a problem cpu frequency management in 11.04. Problem is with working a cpu-governor-plugin which doesn't work generally and with cpu-frequency-plugin which works but I can't change cpu state from on-demand on any other - I can change but nothing changes. Any suggestions?
[11:02] <miro_> At previous version of xubuntu everything goes ok.
[11:03] <miro_> Of course I'm talking about installation on notebook;)
[11:03] <miro_> Core2Duo
[11:19] <TedyBear> Hello
[11:20] <TedyBear> Have a question regarding crypttab
[11:20] <TedyBear> I also asked the question on the xubuntu-users mailing list but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask here as well
[11:22] <TheSheep> come on, ask it already
[11:22] <TheSheep> don't keep us waiting
[11:22] <TedyBear> So my problem is that the swap partition is defined in /etc/crypttab as /dev/sdb3 (during installation) but every now and then the swap partition is designated /dev/sdc3 and cryptdisks_start fails to mount the partition
[11:22] <TheSheep> TedyBear: do you have hardware raid on that computer?
[11:22] <TedyBear> Can I define the partition in /etc/crypttab using the /dev/disk/by-path/-alias?
[11:22] <TedyBear> TheSheep: no
[11:23] <TheSheep> TedyBear: what is detected as sdb when your disk is sdc?
[11:23] <TedyBear> as the partition isn't listed under /dev/disk/by-uuid
[11:23] <TheSheep> yeah I think swap doesn't have uuid
[11:24] <TheSheep> oh, actually it does
[11:24] <TedyBear> if swap is /dev/sdc3 then there is not sdb3
[11:24] <TedyBear> and vice versa
[11:24] <TheSheep> is there sdb?
[11:24] <TheSheep> if there is, what is it?
[11:25] <TedyBear> yes, sdb1 is a 160 Gb NTFS partition
[11:25] <TedyBear> (the whole drive)
[11:25] <TheSheep> and it's always sdb, never sdc?
[11:26] <TedyBear> I've defined that through the uuid in fstab
[11:26] <TedyBear> so it's always mounted
[11:26] <TheSheep> I want to know why it changes
[11:26] <TedyBear> the /dev/sd* are not static
[11:27] <TedyBear> they're dealt out in the order in which they appear
[11:27] <TedyBear> ie. external harddrives frequently change designation
[11:28] <TedyBear> the question is can I use /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST380011A_3JV0MM65-part3
[11:28] <TedyBear> in /etc/crypttab'
[11:29] <TheSheep> that I don't know
[11:32] <TedyBear> Just had to try it. It's only the production-machine, what could go wrong? =)
[11:32] <TedyBear> It worked
[11:47] <TeXnicer> something tells me that t][s][o is a gamer...
[11:52] <t_s_o> more a networking issue
[12:24] <lloydb39> Can anybody help with connecting to a LAN?
[13:03] <taiyal|mac> I just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and the battery monitor's gone, how can I get it back?
[13:06] <taiyal|mac> nevermind, got it
[13:07] <taiyal|mac> apt-get install xfce4-battery-plugin or some such package
[14:27] <Kurdistan> hey guys
[14:27] <charlie-tca> !hi | Kurdistan
[14:28] <Kurdistan> charlie-tca, do you have any bug-rapport from xubuntu?
[14:28] <charlie-tca> yues
[14:28] <Kurdistan> want to see how many bugs have been solved in natty
[14:29] <charlie-tca> That is not an easy thing to search in launchpad
[14:31] <charlie-tca> http://2tu.us/3crv would be a starting a point, but I don't know how to limit it to Xubuntu now
[14:31] <Kurdistan> charlie-tca, exactly :) not easy to fined.
[14:31] <Kurdistan> charlie-tca, how is xubuntu turning out in natty?
[14:31] <Kurdistan> stable to be main os (distro)?
[14:31] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu in natty is very good
[14:32] <charlie-tca> I use it all the time, so do many others.
[14:32] <charlie-tca> Some do not like a few of the new changes, as always. Xfce 4.8 does some stuff differently
[14:33] <charlie-tca> I think it has a memory leak, which requires restarting every 4 or 5 days, but that is not limited to Xubuntu, it is in Xorg or someplace
[14:37] <DarkEra> Not to forget,  there's also a issue with the current kernel(s) which affects more distro's using the 2.6.38 and 39 kernel, not only *buntu i've read. That's also not the fault of any distro
[14:37] <Kurdistan> charlie-tca, thx for te resume.
[14:38] <Kurdistan> Many I have talked with says this is the best xubuntu release. what do you say charlie-tca ?
[14:38] <charlie-tca> Maybe that kernel is where the leak is. I just know the system will freeze completely if you don't reboot often enough
[14:38] <charlie-tca> I say it is very good
[14:38] <Kurdistan> DarkEra, yes, do you mean power regression?
[14:38] <Kurdistan> its effect also maverick users
[14:39] <DarkEra> Kurdistan, yes, that's what i meant.
[14:40] <Kurdistan> I normally do not use only battery for my laptop
[14:40] <Kurdistan> so it does not really effect to much
[14:40] <Kurdistan> but the problem I some users feels is the heat
[14:41] <DarkEra> charlie-tca, i have to agree with you. I'm very pleased with the 11.04 release myself and never thought i'd make a switch to Xubuntu.
[14:41] <charlie-tca> heh, Surprise!
[14:41] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu is a good distribution for non-beginners. 11.04 is a good release in a good distribution.
[14:42] <Kurdistan> charlie-tca, many feels this is really good release. Really hardcore buntu friends that have used ubuntu from beginning
[14:43] <Kurdistan> charlie-tca, so if you are in the team, will proud. xfc 4.8 have made xubuntu only good in my view.
[14:44] <charlie-tca> thanks
[14:45] <charlie-tca> The team likes to hear if things are good or bad. Good almost always is better to hear!
[14:45] <Kurdistan> charlie-tca, :) understand that.
[14:45] <DarkEra> It would be nice if Xubuntu 11.10 had a app included again to rip cd's. It's something i missed in 11.04. For the rest you wont hear me complain. :)
[14:47] <charlie-tca> I didn't know we ever had such an app as default?
[14:49] <DarkEra> didn't exaile this kind of thing?
[14:49] <Kurdistan> guys I will install xubuntu. I hope it will be good.
[14:50] <Kurdistan> see you guys later today or tomorrow
[14:50] <charlie-tca> DarkEra: not ripping
[14:50] <DarkEra> good luck Kurdistan
[14:50] <Kurdistan> charlie-tca, before I go, can you give me default application list?
[14:50] <charlie-tca> I was advised to use cdripper
[14:51] <charlie-tca> Kurdistan: I don't have one handy, let me see if I can find one
[14:51] <Kurdistan> thx, so I know what I am going to-do list after fresh xubuntu install.
[14:51] <Kurdistan> :)
[14:51] <DarkEra> cdripper...... i searched for that in synaptic but didn't find it there... but i saw Asunder between them
[14:53] <DarkEra> drc o/
[14:53] <charlie-tca> DarkEra: ripperx
[14:54] <drc> DarkEra: \o/
[14:54] <charlie-tca> almost the same thing... :-)
[14:54] <DarkEra> charlie-tca, aha, thanks. will look into it right away
[15:00] <charlie-tca> Kurdistan: I think this is the list: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.oneiric/view/head:/desktop
[15:00] <Kurdistan> charlie-tca, you are angel.
[15:01] <charlie-tca> Well, actually, that is oneiric, but we haven't changed it yet
[15:01] <Kurdistan> so it is gnome-network ?
[15:01] <Kurdistan> good, before xubuntu had wicd.
[15:01] <Kurdistan> never liked it
[15:01] <charlie-tca> should be network-manager, yes
[15:03] <Kurdistan> is pulseaudio preinstalled?
[15:03] <charlie-tca> yes
[15:04] <Kurdistan> really good.
[15:04] <Kurdistan> me like it :).
[15:04] <Kurdistan> best way to get the mic working
[15:04] <charlie-tca> I like it because it lets me hear audio from both my main system and VBox machines
[15:04] <Kurdistan> se you all later. thx for the info charlie-tca.
[15:04] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[17:05] <nicofs> Very frequently, the icons in my tray start to wobble and CPU goes up to 100%. What can I do?
[17:11] <GridCube> O_o
[17:11] <GridCube> thats really weird
[17:12] <GridCube> never heard of that
[17:12] <GridCube> let me do some research
[17:16] <GridCube> nicofs, is this your problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/586012
[17:17] <nicofs> GridCube, checking
[17:18] <nicofs> GridCube, not quite but close might be the same issue with different symptoms... i'll try downgrading...
[17:19] <GridCube> :)
[17:20] <GridCube> nicofs, aparently is fixed on xfce 4.7.5
[17:20] <GridCube> xfce4-panel 4.7.5
[17:21] <Sysi> 4.7 is devel version, natty has 4.8, stable
[17:21] <nicofs> Sysi, i have natty...
[17:22] <GridCube> :P mine is 4.6.3 XD but im using 10.04
[17:22] <charlie-tca> nicofs: what version does       apt-cache policy xfce4-panel       give?
[17:25] <nicofs> charlie-tca, http://paste.ubuntu.com/617651/
[17:26] <charlie-tca> panel version is up to date for natty
[17:27] <charlie-tca> nicofs: was this an upgrade from maverick or a fresh install with a new /home
[17:27] <nicofs> charlie-tca, upgrade
[17:30] <charlie-tca> might be something carried forward then. might need to rename ~/.config and restart. Then you can add things back one at a time to see what caused it
[17:46] <th0r> there is a way to set up the workspaces in xfce so that moving the mouse off the edge of the screen causes a switch to the next workspace. I cannot locate that option; can someone point me in the right direction?
[17:49] <GridCube> mmm i dont know th0r
[17:49] <th0r> GridCube: been trying to find it in google but no luck so far <smile>. One of those little things that will drive me nuts for the next week or so
[17:50] <charlie-tca> th0r: which release of Xubuntu?
[17:50] <th0r> GridCube: found it!....under settings WindowManager.
[17:51] <th0r> I need to make up a list of these 'set once and forget' settings...every time I install xfce on a computer I waste a lot of time trying to find them again <smile>
[17:53] <drc> th0r: Or you be like me and bØrk your system so often, you have to re-install enough to remember where these things are.
[17:54] <th0r> drc: I hate to think how many times I have installed xfce. Just returned to xubuntu from pclinuxos and had to start all over again. But finally remembered to make /home a separate partition this time
[17:56] <Sysi> i once did three complete reinstalls within a week
[17:57] <drc> Hah...I've done that in a day :(
[17:58]  * charlie-tca done more than three in a day 
[17:58] <drc> I've taken to making a Xubuntu LiveUSB on a partition, and all my configs and tips on another partition on the same USB.
[17:59] <charlie-tca> I just backup to dropbox now, and can move the settings as needed
[17:59] <Sysi> fifteen minutes to set up xfce, couple of hours to adjust software
[18:00] <th0r> well, I was going to install linux in a vm under windows xp, but found that xp wouldn't recognize my new 320gb hard drive. So it must be time to switch to using xp in a vm under linux <smile>
[18:01] <GridCube> D:
[18:01] <GridCube> great, now firefox is asking to download all the pages that end in php
[18:04] <Sysi> that has happened for me with a bad connection
[18:06] <GridCube> :(
[18:06] <GridCube> i see
[20:36] <DarkEra> hi folks o/
[20:36] <drc> \o/
[20:42] <charlie-tca> Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!
[21:42] <charlie-tca> How do I get rid of the x below the channel list in xchat? It closes the active channel when clicked on, even by accident
[22:23] <DarkEra> charlie-tca, i don't know. I got mine set up with the Tree and not the Tab switcher
[22:25] <charlie-tca> That takes too much space
[22:57] <KM0201> x below the channel list?