[01:18] <JontheEchidna> huh, the NM widget is definitely not working, but I still have wifi
[01:18] <JontheEchidna> magic
[01:19] <JontheEchidna> or maybe this NM 0.9 is actually pretty cool
[01:58] <LaserJock> ScottK: check the KDE svn (or git?) ?
[02:30] <ScottK> LaserJock: For multimedia I think it's git.
[08:19] <Quintasan> hmmm
[08:19] <Quintasan> yofel: got a clean natty install?
[08:26] <shadeslayer> bleh .. kdeedu with python bindings is FTBFS
[08:59] <Quintasan> debfx, yofel: Fancy Tasks work normally on my virtual natty machine
[08:59] <Quintasan> and my stable install as well
[08:59] <Quintasan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-fancytasks/+bug/750925
[08:59] <Quintasan> That but is most likely invalid
[09:00] <Quintasan> bug*
[09:00]  * shadeslayer looks
[09:00] <debfx> Quintasan: you've installed the version from archive?
[09:00] <Quintasan> debfx: yes
[09:01] <debfx> ok, then I'd set the bug to incomplete
[09:01] <shadeslayer> ^^ need backtrace
[09:01] <shadeslayer> *needs
[09:01] <debfx> though there are 3 people that confirm the bug
[09:03] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: bug 686054 might be related
[09:04] <shadeslayer> ( might need a rebuild )
[09:09] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: 4.5.80
[09:09] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Are you serious?
[09:10] <shadeslayer> ??
[09:10] <Quintasan> That's 4.6 Beta 2 if I am not mistaken
[09:10] <Quintasan> We already have 4.6.3 :O
[09:11] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: fancy tasks was built against kde 4.5.2
[09:12] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: in Natty?
[09:12] <shadeslayer> yes
[09:12] <Quintasan> well somehow
[09:12] <Quintasan> it work here
[09:12] <Quintasan> on two installs
[09:12] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: two clean installs?
[09:12] <Quintasan> yes
[09:12] <shadeslayer> without rebuilding?
[09:12] <Quintasan> I installed natty yesterday on my machine
[09:12] <Quintasan> and now I did a clean install in VirtualBox
[09:12] <Quintasan> BOTH work
[09:12] <shadeslayer> hmm ... dunno then, without a proper backtrace can't really say
[09:14] <Quintasan> oooh
[09:15] <Quintasan> it crashed on my machine
[09:15] <Quintasan> launching natty vm
[09:15] <shadeslayer> :)
[09:15] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: pastebin the backtrace if you can
[09:15] <Quintasan> downloading over 9000 debug libs first
[09:15] <shadeslayer> xD
[09:16] <shadeslayer> atleast you have a sane internet connection
[09:16] <shadeslayer> hmm .. i have to drop python bindings from kdeedu now
[09:17] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: on my natty vm, I can add it, launch some apps but plasma crashes after a few seconds
[09:18] <shadeslayer> okay, still need a backtrace :P
[09:19] <Quintasan> dbg libs downloadan
[09:32] <shadeslayer> debfx: i see .orig files in this repo : https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/marble/repository/revisions/kde-4.6/show/data/mwdbii : do you think i should delete them?
[09:32] <shadeslayer> they're binary files, so can't even tell the difference between them :/
[09:36] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/78121/
[09:36] <shadeslayer> le click
[09:36] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: install dbg symbols for the widget too
[09:37] <Quintasan> implying there are any
[09:37] <shadeslayer> ( but yeah, looks like it needs a rebuild )
[09:37] <shadeslayer> @_@
[09:37] <shadeslayer> no debug symbols, wth
[09:38] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: looking at lines 40 to 46 makes me think it needs a rebuild
[09:39] <Quintasan> let me do a local rebuild and test
[09:39] <shadeslayer> yeah
[09:48] <infologger> oggyoggyoggy
[09:50] <shadeslayer> infologger: what did you do to randalogger? 
[09:50] <shadeslayer> xD
[10:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dude, how do i find out the errorCode enum on api.kde.org?
[10:03] <shadeslayer> searching doesn't give me anything
[10:04] <yofel> Quintasan: can you try with 4.6.3 from kubuntu-ppa/ppa too?
[10:04] <yofel> good morning btw.
[10:04] <yofel> ah wait, you said it crashed (reading backlog fail -.-)
[10:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I have no idea what you are talking about
[10:04] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: works after rebuild with 4.6.2
[10:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nvm
[10:20] <yofel> hm, 4.6.4 time
[10:20] <yofel> !ninjas
[10:21] <shadeslayer> ubottu: you forgot me ... you're a bad bad bot
[10:21]  * yofel goes cleaning wiki
[10:21] <yofel> shadeslayer: buy jussi a beer so he adds you ;)
[10:21] <shadeslayer> my kdeedu merge is done hopefully
[10:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: i already bought him stuff last UDS :P
[10:22] <jussi> Ill settle for a blink :P
[10:22] <shadeslayer> hahahaha
[10:22] <yofel> then get him some finnish sweets :P
[10:22] <yofel> ah hehe
[10:23] <shadeslayer> jussi: just wait a couple of more days
[10:23] <jussi> :)
[10:23] <yofel> meh, reading -packagers backlog from yesterday makes me want to skip 4.7b2 too :/
[10:23] <shadeslayer> yeah ^^
[10:24] <shadeslayer> besides ... the more we delay this, the more users neon gets
[10:24]  * shadeslayer will blog on this after exas
[10:24] <shadeslayer> *exams
[10:24] <yofel> scott already mentioned us on the alpha1 release notes :)
[10:25] <shadeslayer> \o/
[10:25] <shadeslayer> the only change was muon right?
[10:25] <yofel> afaik yes
[10:26] <yofel> hm, neon will actually useful for the split as we already have the build-deps figured out there
[10:26] <yofel> *be useful
[10:26] <shadeslayer> huh ... never thought of that
[10:26] <yofel> though we have universe stuff in there, but a main-only pbuilder will find that
[10:30]  * shadeslayer looks at the kdeedu diff and dies
[10:31] <yofel> what? Is it a ~7800 lines diff as I had for kdesdk?
[10:32] <yofel> wiki cleaned, happy packaging
[10:32] <yofel> remember we're building for natty, not oneiric
[10:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: all i know right now is that its a huge huge diff
[10:35] <shadeslayer> will run wc in a sec
[10:35] <shadeslayer> muwhahaha
[10:35] <shadeslayer> yofel: 10019 line diff
[10:35] <yofel> what the hell  are you doing...
[10:36] <shadeslayer> yofel: new packages were added, exsisting packages were split, had to add dummy packages for transitions
[10:36] <shadeslayer> then there are a bunch of symbol updates
[10:36] <yofel> fooey
[10:36] <shadeslayer> yeah
[10:37] <yofel> meh, I'll clean up ninjas PPA a bit, totally cluttered 
[10:42] <yofel> someone create a oxygen-icons.tar.xz :S
[10:44] <shadeslayer> hehe
[10:45] <yofel> should we make an exception there and recompress that or is that against the policy?
[10:47]  * yofel wonders what oxygen-icons 4.6.4 actually contains
[10:48] <yofel> please not 4.7 stuff again
[10:50] <yofel> considering it's 354MB it sounds like 4.7 :S
[11:03] <shadeslayer> @_@
[11:04] <shadeslayer> use older tarball?
[11:04]  * shadeslayer gives yofel his sword to stab oxygen-icons
[11:04] <yofel> yeah, we'll stick to what we have
[11:04] <yofel> just had a kernel panick, seems to have taken my btrfs rootfs with it to the underworld
[11:05] <yofel> ah well, the joys of using experimental filesystems...
[11:07] <shadeslayer> fffffuuuuuu
[11:09] <yofel> yep, OOPS as soon as I try to mount it, fun
[11:09] <shadeslayer> so now ... files from kalgebra-common from our old packaging have been moved into kalegbra and kalgebramobile .... great
[11:10] <shadeslayer> and we had kalgebra-mobile earlier ... so i have to break/replaces the new one with the old one
[11:10] <shadeslayer> fun
[11:10] <shadeslayer> do we keep the common package?
[11:11] <debfx> shadeslayer: are they even installed?
[11:11] <shadeslayer> debfx: whats even installed?
[11:11] <debfx> those .orig files
[11:11] <shadeslayer> debfx: ah .. no .. i talked to marble upstream and they said that the files are intentional
[11:11] <shadeslayer> they're not installed ... they're just for reference
[11:24] <debfx> ok
[11:48] <shadeslayer> kdeedu is done, anyone up for reviewing?
[11:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, Quintasan: calligra?
[11:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: build deps in ubuntu are old
[11:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: we will have to package the build deps too .. so it's going to take a while
[12:00] <apachelogger> grrr
[12:00] <apachelogger> can we haz calligra snapshot in a kubuntu experimental at least
[12:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: probably, the essential build deps are all satisfied : http://paste.kde.org/78205 :
[12:12] <shadeslayer> huh
[12:13] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: there a BADRAM option in GRUB
[12:13] <yofel> now that you mention it...
[12:13] <yofel> it has been there for a while
[12:13] <shadeslayer> oh ... i never saw it before
[12:13] <yofel> it totally slipped my mind
[12:13] <shadeslayer> ^^
[12:14] <shadeslayer> yofel: so you actually input the memaddress of each cell? :O
[12:14] <shadeslayer> or is there a automated thing for it?
[12:15] <shadeslayer> kdeedu up for review at lp:~rohangarg/kdeedu/ubuntu
[12:15] <yofel> I never used it, but I think you can give a range, not sure where you get that from though (I hope that they don't mean write up everything memtest barfs out)
[12:16] <shadeslayer> or http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeedu/ubuntu/revision/140 
[12:24] <shadeslayer> i wish we had kubuntu for this : http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/
[12:24] <shadeslayer> i'd be buying it this instant
[12:30] <yofel> yeah, that would be something I would actually consider buying, I don't have enough use cases for a tablet without a keyboard
[12:32] <shadeslayer> yofel: you can hookup a wetab with a keyboard
[12:32] <shadeslayer> but ... the most important point of that eeepad is that its ARM
[12:32] <shadeslayer> and that too a dual core 2.1 GHz nVidia tegra procy
[12:32] <shadeslayer> <3
[12:33] <yofel> not 2.1, it's 1.0GHz dual core, tegra 2
[12:33] <yofel> still enough for an ARM one
[12:33]  * yofel wonders if you can overclock it ^^
[12:34] <shadeslayer> oh heh
[12:34] <shadeslayer> i read it on my mobile yesterday and thought its a 2.1 Ghz proc
[12:35] <yofel> I would rather buy it for it's 16h battery life, one should be able to get 10h out of it without too many hacks
[12:35] <yofel> my 1000H has like 3-6h 
[12:36] <shadeslayer> everything aside.... can it boot ubuntu xD
[12:36] <shadeslayer> i googled last night and there's no working port as of now
[12:37] <yofel> well, someone first needs to get one and then we can start breaking it :P
[12:37] <shadeslayer> it has android
[12:37] <shadeslayer> thus a locked bootloader
[12:37] <yofel> :S
[12:38] <shadeslayer> ^^ something i have to workaround on my phone as well
[12:40]  * yofel wonders why they don't want people to buy their things :(
[12:41] <shadeslayer> bbiab
[14:32] <shadeslayer> yofel: btw you can overclock the eeepad
[14:32] <shadeslayer> upto 1.4Ghz
[14:41] <apachelogger> maco: how about bringing pyqt to orca
[14:41] <apachelogger> or orca to pyqt
[14:41] <apachelogger> or both
[14:41] <apachelogger> smth like that
[15:22] <debfx> lol, we have firefox on the cd image
[15:22] <jjesse> my oneric iso won't boot for me in vmware, anyone else having problems?  alpha 65bit
[15:23] <debfx> jjesse: maybe it's caused by the extra bit ;)
[15:23] <jjesse> lol
[15:23] <jjesse> i have a magic 65 bit system :)
[15:23] <debfx> why don't we take the opportunity and drop rekonq :D
[15:24] <jjesse> didn't i read someplace we made a comitment to rekonq?
[15:27] <debfx> yeah, my biggest concern with having firefox is the cd space it requires
[15:50] <c2tarun> 4.6.4?? what happened to 4.7?
[15:50] <c2tarun> yofel, ^^
[16:00] <maco> apachelogger: there's already upstream talk of doing that and making orca fdo
[16:18] <c2tarun> I am not able to access ktown, why so? I guess my public key was there during KDE 4.6.3
[16:29] <apachelogger> c2tarun: ktown is being retired
[16:40] <c2tarun> apachelogger, then how can I get the latest KDE SC tarballs?
[16:48] <valorie> c2tarun: project neon?
[16:56] <yofel> c2tarun: ftpubuntu@ftpmaster.kde.org
[16:56] <yofel> new server
[16:56] <yofel> c2tarun: I should get you the -packagers backlog, nobody is happy with the 4.7 release tarball layout (and count)
[16:57] <yofel> and we have the excuse of being busy with other things :P
[17:12] <apachelogger> yofel: could you please drop a note about Kubuntu's POV
[17:12] <apachelogger> they are all whining for no good reason
[17:12] <apachelogger> and no one of the packagers actually makes a case in favor of atomic tarball layouts
[17:13] <yofel> well, I think most points were added, and ScottK pretty much summed our main issues up
[17:14] <yofel> while I'm really happy about split git stuff in neon, I finally had to write kind of a buildsystem for it to keep it maintainable
[17:14] <yofel> constantly writing scripts to make a change to soon a hundred packages isn't doable
[17:16] <yofel> add a missing 'but' before the colon -.-
[17:23] <shadeslayer> debfx: uh .. ff fit onto the CD?
[17:24] <debfx> shadeslayer: nah, it's very oversized atm
[17:24] <yofel> wasn't the cd like 30M oversized?
[17:24] <shadeslayer> how did FF get on there anyways?
[17:24] <yofel> well, gone again, bbl
[17:25] <shadeslayer> DarkwingDuck: is it possible to move the meeting 2 days ahead?
[17:29] <ScottK> apachelogger: As long as upstream will provide API stability for the now public libs and they'll make a decision and stick with it, I'm fine with the split.
[17:29] <apachelogger> ScottK: that is a given
[17:30] <ScottK> apachelogger: What's a given?  API stability?  I don't think so.
[17:30] <apachelogger> yes it is for KDELibs
[17:30] <ScottK> Right, but now every module's lib will be public.
[17:31] <apachelogger> yofel: I do not care about neon, I am talking in a Kubuntu context here :P
[17:31] <apachelogger> ScottK: there is no API stability defined for random shared libs of modules
[17:31] <apachelogger> or ABI for that matter
[17:31] <apachelogger> only kdelibs
[17:32] <ScottK> apachelogger: That's a problem.
[17:32] <apachelogger> ScottK: why is that?
[17:33] <ScottK> Because now all the headers will have to be published in -dev packages and so it's a public interface that should be properly maintained.
[17:33] <apachelogger> I do not agree but you should definitely not add that to the existing discussion
[17:34] <ScottK> I don't care if they have to bump soname each release, but they should manage API/ABI as proper shared libs
[17:34] <apachelogger> but perhaps bring it up seperately on kde-release
[17:35] <ScottK> I think it's quite relevant.
[18:02] <debfx> aha, firefox-locale-en is seeded
[18:23] <bambee> evening
[19:32] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna:  Depends: libasound2 (>> 1.0.24.1), libc6 (>= 2.7), libltdl7 (>= 2.2.6b), libogg0 (>= 1.0rc3), libtdb1 (>= 1.2.7+git20101214), libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.2), libvorbisfile3 (>= 1.1.2)
[19:33] <apachelogger> I cannot actually reporduce the gtk being pulld on the CD from canberra
[19:59] <CIA-32> [kubuntu.oneiric] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110604185846-i1euo4ygezgfyp2k * kubuntu-common remove random crap (libnotify-bin) that is pulling in half of gnome. and stop blaming libcanberra for doing that. kthxbai.
[20:01] <apachelogger> who is bored right now?
[20:01] <apachelogger> I needs a packag0r
[20:01] <shadeslayer> i needs a review0r
[20:04] <apachelogger> my most favorite shadeslayer!
[20:04] <shadeslayer> uh ... okay, this can't be good :P
[20:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: can you pretty pretty pretty please package calligra for the experimental ppa
[20:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: did debian do all the work?
[20:06] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yeah
[20:06] <apachelogger> some adrien guy has the packaging
[20:06] <apachelogger> but apparently it is not commit anywhere
[20:06] <apachelogger> so you need to send him a mail
[20:06] <shadeslayer> @_@
[20:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can it wait till the 10th?
[20:06] <shadeslayer> or do you need it right away?
[20:06] <apachelogger> no
[20:06] <apachelogger> adrien.grellier@laposte.net
[20:07] <apachelogger> I actually need it last week, but since that is in the past...
[20:07] <apachelogger> also I am sune today :D
[20:07] <shadeslayer> hahahaha
[20:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok sending a mail
[20:07] <apachelogger> no really
[20:07] <apachelogger> ask valorie
[20:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: cc kubuntu-devel
[20:08] <shadeslayer> uhm .... okay ... now i have to figure out which email address is allowed on that ML
[20:08]  * shadeslayer asks the mail man
[20:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: any particular reason as to why you are gunning for calligra?
[20:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: 2 line mail sent 
[20:19] <yofel> didn't _Groo_ want to package calligra? Or do you want it *right now* ?
[20:20] <shadeslayer> ^^ i was asking the same thing
[20:21] <shadeslayer> i don't understand the rush :P
[20:22] <yofel> wait can't you do *something* for neon if the essential stuff is there?
[20:22] <shadeslayer> well... sure
[20:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: everything apart from copyright is done
[20:22] <shadeslayer> lemme push
[20:25] <valorie> not sure why he said to ask me
[20:25] <valorie> he never uttered the word "calligra" in my direction
[20:26] <shadeslayer> valorie: what is he drinking over there :P
[20:26] <valorie> beer, beer and more beer
[20:26] <valorie> FreeBeer, to be exact
[20:27] <shadeslayer> the worst kind
[20:27] <valorie> free as in freedom, not free as in pay no money
[20:27] <shadeslayer> fffuuuuu
[20:28] <yofel> Replace the contents of his mug with Rivella. Has the same color :P
[20:28] <shadeslayer> sigh, i didn't update the branch and now they've diverged
[20:28] <valorie> comes in bottles, unfortunately
[20:28] <shadeslayer> Best : replace with apple juice xD
[20:29] <yofel> :/
[20:29] <shadeslayer> O_O bzr: ERROR: Connection error: Couldn't resolve host 'xmlrpc.launchpad.net' [Errno -2] Name or service not known
[20:46] <ScottK> Of course he's paying for it.  I'm not there to get people to buy apachelogger beer so he doesn't have to pay.
[20:46] <ScottK> valorie: ^^^ Ask him about this happening at UDS in Budapest.
[20:51] <valorie> ScottK: sounds like you were very successful in your fundraising
[20:51] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: oohjhhsw
[20:51] <ScottK> Beer raising actually.  
[20:52] <apachelogger> oioi
[20:52] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yes?
[20:52] <apachelogger> yes
[20:52] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ssup?
[20:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: will finish neon package first and then look at package for experimental on monday
[20:54] <shadeslayer> in the mean time if someone else wants to look at the calligra package for experimental , they now have the links for working
[20:56] <apachelogger> Nightrose: :*
[20:56] <apachelogger> from fregl and the valorie
[20:56] <apachelogger> and the mac stuff is no goody goody he says
[20:56] <Nightrose> apachelogger: :* back
[20:56] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}} to Nightrose
[20:56] <valorie> we miss you
[20:56] <Nightrose> awwww
[20:56] <Nightrose> I miss you folks too
[20:56] <Nightrose> sooo much
[20:57] <Nightrose> i at least get to see fregl though soon
[20:58] <Nightrose> in like 12 days or so
[20:59] <apachelogger> dont you have better things to do than see this fedora fanboi
[20:59] <apachelogger> ?
[21:00] <Nightrose> hehe not currently 
[21:00] <Nightrose> :D
[21:00] <Nightrose> well except see you
[21:00] <Nightrose> but...
[21:00] <valorie> fregl is wearing a fedora currently
[21:01] <Nightrose> pics!
[21:01] <valorie> looks like a detective from a 40's movie
[21:01] <valorie> lol
[21:01] <shadeslayer> valorie: lol ... i can imagine that
[21:03] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/N8fQh.jpg
[21:03] <apachelogger> le picteure
[21:03] <apachelogger> mind the applez
[21:03] <apachelogger> and the beerz
[21:05]  * Nightrose hugs apachelogger
[21:06] <apachelogger> why I be hugged? am I ev member yet?
[21:11] <Nightrose> no you are not yet
[21:11] <Nightrose> you be hugged for the pic
[21:19] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: was actually firefox :P
[21:20] <Mamarok> ping?
[21:20] <JontheEchidna> somehow got on the CD
[21:20] <Mamarok> oh, now it works again
[21:20] <JontheEchidna> oh, and libnotify-bin too
[21:21] <shadeslayer> !find glu.h
[21:24] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: your research is flawed
[21:24] <apachelogger> how did firefax get on the CD?
[21:25] <JontheEchidna> iDunno, but it's there
[21:25] <JontheEchidna> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20110604/oneiric-desktop-i386.manifest
[21:26] <hunger> What do I need to do to get appmenu-qt working with my own Qt version?
[21:27] <apachelogger> patch it IIRc
[21:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: JontheEchidna [22:32:49] <debfx> aha, firefox-locale-en is seeded
[21:27] <JontheEchidna> hunger: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/qt/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_15_appmenu.diff
[21:27] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: i think he means oxygen-appmenu, but i'm not sure
[21:28] <hunger> shadeslayer: No, that looks about right.
[21:28] <shadeslayer> could someone please review the merge request
[21:28] <shadeslayer> for kdeedu
[21:28] <hunger> shadeslayer: I want my Qt apps to use the menu.
[21:28] <shadeslayer> hunger: ah okay, my bad then :)
[21:28] <JontheEchidna> you'll also probably want the appmenu-qt package installed
[21:29] <hunger> JontheEchidna: The stuff I got from ubuntu has the menu, it is just the stuff I build myself that does not.
[21:29] <ScottK> Just use stock Kubuntu also comes to mind as an option.
[21:29] <hunger> Too bad that hitting Alt does not make the menu show up for Qt apps:-(
[21:30] <ScottK> You should probably talk to agateau about that then.
[21:30] <hunger> ScottK: No, ubuntu packages are just too old for what I need.
[21:30] <JontheEchidna> alt + underlined letter works for me
[21:30] <ScottK> "current release" is too old?
[21:30] <JontheEchidna> (e.g. alt + f for file, e for edit, etc)
[21:31] <hunger> JontheEchidna: gnome-terminal: press Alt and the menu shows up. Quassel: Press Alt and nothing happens.
[21:31] <hunger> JontheEchidna: Alt-Somekey works for both.
[21:31] <JontheEchidna> ah, different things
[21:32] <hunger> ScottK: Yeap, current release of Qt is too old for me.
[21:33] <hunger> JontheEchidna: That is a pretty big patch... do you plan to submit that to Qt?
[21:34] <JontheEchidna> not my patch, so no. I think it'll be included in 4.8 though
[21:34] <JontheEchidna> agateau would know more
[21:34] <hunger> JontheEchidna: Does not seem to be in the Qt 4.8 branch so far.
[21:35] <JontheEchidna> iirc Qt was waiting for mac support
[21:35] <shadeslayer> ^^ yep
[21:35] <hunger> Can't take long then... :-/
[21:42] <hunger> Is it a known issue that appmenu-qt sometimes falls back to displaying the menu in the app instead of the menubar?
[21:45] <ScottK> hunger: I've only seen that if the app starts before appmenu-qt on login.
[21:45] <ScottK> That's known.
[21:45] <hunger> ScottK: Nope. App is running and showing its menu bar in the top panel thing. All of a sudden the menu vanishes there and shows up inside the app again.
[21:46] <ScottK> Odd.  Nope.  Never seen that.
[21:46] <hunger> ScottK: The app is Quassel... Everything straight from natty.
[21:46] <ScottK> I wonder if it's due to some change in Qt 4.8 then?
[21:46] <hunger> quassel-client-qt4 actually.
[21:46] <ScottK> Shouldn't matter.
[21:47] <ScottK> I've tested that one too though and never seen that.
[21:47] <hunger> ScottK: Hmmm... I am running Qt 4.8 branch based apps, but not when the menu disappeared.
[21:47] <ScottK> Ah.  OK.
[21:47] <ScottK> Dunno then.
[22:14] <yofel> hm, nobody did anything re 4.6.4
[22:14]  * yofel takes kdelibs
[22:17] <shadeslayer> failiure
[22:17] <shadeslayer> !find QGLWidget
[22:20] <ScottK> yofel: You ought to merge from Debian again too as they've got some kde4libs bug fixes too.
[22:20] <ScottK> 4.6.3-3 just uploaded.
[22:20] <yofel> well, this is about natty, but can take a look at the merge too
[22:21] <ScottK> Ah.  Thought it was oneiric, but packaging for natty (based on what we had in natty) is good too.
[22:22] <yofel> I wouldn't do 4.6.4 for oneiric, we'll rather do 4.7 (eventually)
[22:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: glew is busted, we need 1.5.8
[22:33] <shadeslayer> we have 1.5.7.is.1.5.2-1ubuntu2
[22:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: update!
[22:36] <shadeslayer> . . . 
[22:36] <shadeslayer> herp derp
[22:36] <shadeslayer> even oneiric does not have a new package
[22:37] <shadeslayer> ooh
[22:37] <shadeslayer> debian has it
[22:37] <yofel> why did they downgrade it?
[22:37] <shadeslayer> aha
[22:37] <shadeslayer> yofel: doesn't work on intel it seems
[22:37] <yofel> ...
[22:37] <shadeslayer> thats what the note on MOM says
[22:38] <shadeslayer> "sync if 1.5.8 works on intel+unity"
[22:38] <shadeslayer> xD
[22:38] <yofel> great -.-
[22:38] <yofel> test intel and junk unity
[22:39] <shadeslayer> we need to poke someone to look at this
[22:39] <shadeslayer> ok gtg for now, cya
[22:39] <yofel> cu
[22:39] <shadeslayer> boud says that this particular var might be in 1.5.2 as well
[22:40] <shadeslayer> lets hope so
[22:40] <shadeslayer> kbye :)
[22:50] <LaserJock> ScottK: around?
[23:19] <ScottK> LaserJock: Now.
[23:23] <LaserJock> ScottK: so, I'm CC'd on the KDE bug report for the libav issue with kdemultimedia, do I wait now for a fix?
[23:24] <ScottK> LaserJock: Assuming snuffling through git didn't find you anything (KDE devs aren't always great about cc'ing the bug report).  You could also ping siretart and see if he can suggest a solution (since he's maintaining libav in Debian/Ubuntu).
[23:26] <LaserJock> I couldn't find kdemultimedia in git
[23:26] <LaserJock> must be in svn
[23:26] <LaserJock> but I couldn't find a way to look in the svn for just kdemultimedia
[23:34] <ScottK> Let me see if I can find it.
[23:34] <ScottK> LaserJock: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdemultimedia/ <-- Still in svn after all.
[23:35] <ScottK> It hasn't been touched in 5 months though, so I'd go the ask siretart for help route.
[23:57] <Quintasan> damn Freescale and FedEx
[23:57] <Quintasan> damn Polish customs