[00:09] just thought about it, 11.10 will be all about third iteration [00:09] linux 3.0 [00:10] gnome 3.0 [00:10] gtk 3 [00:14] Ian_Corne: gnome 3.2 actually [00:27] with all these changes and when i code a couple of gui applications using c/c++, what's the recommended gui front-end to use? gtk, gnome? That being asked, I'm thinking in terms of the default installation [00:31] is QT the way to go? [03:11] I recently installed gnome-shell. Mind you, I'm in Unity - I just wanted to have it as an option. When I press my power-on/off button, gnome-shell starts up, then immediately hibernates my computer. When I awake it, gnome-shell asks for my password, then logs me ... back into Unity. I can find no instance of gnome-shell running. All my sessions = ubuntu (which means Unity). Any ideas as to what's happening? [03:12] (I'm pressing power on/off with my computer on, using Unity. [03:14] Or maybe it's just suspending, as Power syspane says. [03:14] So I just changed that to Ask me ... [03:15] Yep. Now I get the usual options. Hmph. But why on earth would it switch to gnome-panel upon suspend? [03:18] Heheh. It's a relief to know +1'ers like to enjoy their weekend. I'm about to head out myself. If I don't hear from you before shutdown, everyone have a good weekend. [03:50] does build-essential come installed by default now? (as of 11.04) [04:04] rinkukokiri: 1) 11.04 stuff goes in #ubuntu, 2) looks like it. === zniavre_ is now known as zniavre === croppa is now known as croppa_ === croppa_ is now known as croppa === der_schreiner is now known as dominkzogg === der_schreiner is now known as dominikzogg [14:51] hi+ [14:56] Testittt: hi [14:58] The package 'update-manager' is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist. [14:58] What's with that? [15:01] update-manager is one of those things that make life difficult if it is removed [15:02] just using do-release-upgrade, but that seemed a bit weird [15:05] hmm I should try an upgrade on something againnow that Alpha1 is out and see if it's any less disasterous [16:32] strange that neither probes another install - natty does not see Oneiric on the other drive and same with Oneiric's grub. Have to change hdd sequence in BIOS [16:32] can't loging in gnome day 2 [17:07] where do i change fonts ? And why gnome session is not loading ? [17:40] hmm - gnome is not installable gnome: Depends: gnome-desktop-environment (= 1:2.30+7ubuntu3) but 1:2.30+7ubuntu3 is to be installed [17:43] how crashy is the alpha? [17:48] Not much [17:48] BUGabundo: thanks! what's broken? [17:50] No GTK engine [17:50] Duect [17:50] Due to transition to gnome 3.2 [17:51] if I use plain gnome, would I see breakage? [17:51] nouveau still doesn't like my card I believe [17:54] better than last week - now it will let me log into gnome [19:37] i'm using lubuntu 11.10, and have three network managers in systray [19:38] is this common, and does someone have a solution? [19:39] with gnome shell and unity, there's no problem, only with lxde and xfce [19:39] Someone mentioned the same problem the other day, so I guess it's common. [19:39] No idea how to fix it, though. [19:39] ok [19:44] how do I change a theme in Unity ? [20:06] elros: I would expect that gnome-panel and xfce4-panel are both loading, and probably the lxde panel, too [20:06] Which give some of the icons two and three times === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:21] dang, is alpha1 already out? [21:21] yes [21:22] * KM0201 did not know that.. :) [21:22] and here i've been messing w/ fedora 15 [21:24] KM0201: We won't judge you for it. :D [21:24] :) [21:25] the packages are always greener on the other distro [21:29] * astraljava LOLs @ elros [21:43] where's the ISO download? [21:43] !download [21:43] Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Natty, and help keeping the servers' load low! [21:44] KM0201: Probably on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [21:44] ty [21:44] How do I change the fonts in Unity - can't find the option [21:46] to change the fonts, you'll probably need to use dconf-editor or gnome-tweak-tool [21:46] Volkodav: Click on the 0/1 power button, go to system settings, click appearance and then the font tab [21:47] penguin42: that's not how it works now in gnome-control-center 3 [21:47] oh yes, 3 - ahem [23:17] There is no appearance there [23:18] it's all changed around hmm [23:19] no close buttons on the windows [23:19] strange [23:21] it finally feels like a proper alpha :D [23:23] fuuuuuuuuuuuuu [23:23] the network manager is making me blow !!! [23:23] hehe [23:23] stupid thing [23:23] what's it doing? [23:23] pidgin can't conntect [23:24] haven't had a problem yet [23:24] yeah [23:24] I even made a new profile [23:24] pidgin and empathy are broken for me atm [23:24] Ian_Corne: how? [23:24] i guessed it was libpurple [23:24] they don't connect :) [23:24] no [23:24] its NM [23:24] I just talked on #pidgin [23:24] we have the same version that natty has [23:24] and their ppa [23:27] ok :) [23:28] NM breaks about everything (the KDE NM applet too btw. ^^) [23:28] yofel: The KDE one is pretty dodgy for me - if my machine boots up without the DHCP server working (i.e. if that's still coming up) then it never auto finds it in KDE, I have to prod nm manually at the cmd line [23:30] hm, usually works fine, but since nm 0.9 was uploaded it doesn't work at all here [23:30] it sees the neworks for wifi, but only says Err: Invalid state [23:36] yofel: o the nm command line tools work? [23:36] ^D [23:36] no idea, I stop it and use wpa_supplicant by hand [23:37] the KDE applet can't create system connections, so I never seem to find my connections with the command line tools [23:38] I don't know if I've ever done the nmcli stuff for wireless [23:39] ANYONE REMEMBERS HOW TO CHANGE INPUT BO? [23:39] *BOX [23:39] oops sorry for the caps [23:39] I can't rezise mine [23:39] it was fine before the format [23:59] well, OO alpa1 fixes the iscsi root problem