| pleia2 | it's not unfun, I've run hours where only I showed up, I use the opportunity to work on things :) | 00:00 |
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| nuboon2age | i'm just a few blocks away right now pleia2 | 00:00 |
| pleia2 | but if you really must cancel, please send a mail to the list and delete the loco directory entry | 00:00 |
| pleia2 | (I still don't think it's a good idea to cancel with such short notice though) | 00:01 |
| nuboon2age | well it'd make a difference to me if say jtatum said he was coming. | 00:01 |
| nuboon2age | i haven't seen aaditya in months | 00:01 |
| nuboon2age | crashsystems: how about you? Can you make it tonight? | 00:02 |
| nuboon2age | since i'm in the area i could still do it, but basically i have to wait here a long way from home till then pleia2 | 00:03 |
| pleia2 | nuboon2age: that's the responsibility one takes on when they plan an event | 00:04 |
| pleia2 | if you can't do it, maybe find someone else to coordinate the palo alto hours? | 00:04 |
| nuboon2age | pleia2: this one isn't as established as the Mountain View or even SJ one so i disagree that it would be a big deal to postpone it. Pretty much people only come when I promote it and i haven't had an opportunity to this time. | 00:04 |
| pleia2 | nuboon2age: I'd really rather not have us be known for canceling hours at last minute, it reflects poorly on the team :( | 00:05 |
| nuboon2age | i was hoping sburto would coordinate it, but that hasn't paned out. i'm still looking for a coordinator. | 00:05 |
| pleia2 | perhaps we should not do the palo alto one until we do have someone who can commit to coming, regardless of people signing up? | 00:06 |
| nuboon2age | maybe pleia2, but i'm not worried about it. it'll continue to bump along until someone takes it under their wing. it'll happen sometime soon pleia2 | 00:06 |
| pleia2 | well, we really can't make a habit of canceling at last minute | 00:07 |
| pleia2 | it'll hurt attendance at all our events if people don't feel we are reliable | 00:08 |
| pleia2 | (and yes, one "I showed up and no one was there" is more than enough to cause someone never to come to anythingagain) | 00:08 |
| nuboon2age | no worries pleia2 , its all good. i haven't made up my mind yet. :-) | 00:09 |
| pleia2 | ok | 00:09 |
| nuboon2age | you're an awesome Ubuntu leader pleia2 -- i totally admire you. :-) | 00:09 |
| * pleia2 hugs nuboon2age | 00:09 | |
| pleia2 | I know we're all on the same side :) | 00:09 |
| nuboon2age | nuboon2age: hugs pleia2 :-) | 00:10 |
| seidos | i better delete the LA ubuntu hour then from the page | 00:23 |
| seidos | and send out an email | 00:23 |
| seidos | i think i'm looking for something a little less formal | 00:24 |
| pleia2 | less formal than showing up? | 00:25 |
| pleia2 | I'd think that is the absolute lowest bar for any event, formal or not | 00:27 |
| seidos | less formal than fixed dates and times. | 00:27 |
| pleia2 | you can just plan them as you go, you don't have to say every $x at $foo | 00:28 |
| pleia2 | (that's just the strategy that tends to work best) | 00:28 |
| pleia2 | but if you can't you can't, better to have some than none :) | 00:28 |
| seidos | there is also the political issue of me not using ubuntu on my notebook, and the technical issue of my notebook not being very portable right now | 00:29 |
| pleia2 | not sure how that's political, but no one said you have to plan events either, if you're not happy with ubuntu right now you don't need to promote it | 00:30 |
| Eureka | wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours edited | 00:30 |
| pleia2 | no need to find other excuses | 00:30 |
| seidos | happy with ubuntu? i'm totally happy with ubuntu, why wouldn't i be? | 00:30 |
| pleia2 | most of us are volunteers, we do planning as we can and feel inclined too :) | 00:31 |
| seidos | i've been around long enough to know this much | 00:31 |
| seidos | no worries | 00:31 |
| nuboon2age | okay i'll be there for Ubuntu Hour: Palo Alto 7pm Tandoori Oven pleia2 , jtatum , jyo , Yasumoto , YokoZar , itnet7 , crashsystems , crashsystems1 | 00:55 |
| nuboon2age | aaditya: | 00:55 |
| nuboon2age | signing off this computer now... | 00:55 |
| aaditya | Hey nuboon2age. | 00:55 |
| nuboon2age | hey aaditya , will you be there? | 00:55 |
| aaditya | not tonight. I'd love to, but got other stuff going on. | 00:56 |
| aaditya | I'll try to make it there next time though. | 00:56 |
| nuboon2age | okay so Ubuntu Hour: San Jose, next Thursday? could you RSVP please aaditya amigo? | 00:59 |
| aaditya | sure, as soon as my plans are confirmed | 01:00 |
| aaditya | I'll possibly be out of town at that time. | 01:00 |
| nuboon2age | okay well if not then please come to Ubuntu Hour: MV. Its been literally months since we've had the pleasure of your presence amigo, aaditya | 01:01 |
| nuboon2age | signing off now... | 01:01 |
| aaditya | alright, see you. | 01:02 |
| nUboon2Age | Ubuntu Hour: Palo Alto @ Tandoori Oven on California Ave is in the house! jtatun, crashsystems, crashsystems1 | 02:40 |
| nUboon2Age | ^^^ nigelb, broder, jiboumans, jyo , outofjungle, ryaxnb,philipballew, rbarot_, pleia2 | 02:44 |
| rww | nigelb lives in Asia ;P | 02:46 |
| nigelb | yeah :D | 02:46 |
| nhaines | Are those the people who are there or are you just ping spamming? | 02:46 |
| nigelb | I just hang out in the cool loco team's channels :) | 02:46 |
| MarkDude | nigelb, well this is Cali, so by default- it has to be pretty *awesome* | 02:47 |
| MarkDude | Land of Milk and Honey | 02:47 |
| nigelb | You mean Beer and computers? ;) | 02:49 |
| pleia2 | yes, that | 02:49 |
| pleia2 | (actually, we're more of a wine state) | 02:50 |
| seidos | there's a restaurant near here that's called "milk and honey" | 02:50 |
| nUboon2Age | well y'all can join me virtually and in Ubuntu spirit. ;-) | 02:50 |
| rww | vegan organic wine | 02:50 |
| seidos | i can't verify this, but i suspect it is a Hebrew establishment | 02:50 |
| * pleia2 orders up some virtual tikka masala | 02:52 | |
| pleia2 | real me is at home recovering from a cold :) | 02:53 |
| sn9 | apparently tikka masala is more british than indian | 02:53 |
| nUboon2Age | iwow haveny heard nary a pleasant word out of nhaines (notice my sly "ping spam" there) since he and his fuhrer were ejected from power. nothing nice to say anymore nhaines??? | 02:53 |
| pleia2 | sn9: yep | 02:53 |
| pleia2 | but potatoes are from the americas and often associated with the irish, tomatoes too and italians | 02:53 |
| sn9 | nUboon2Age sounds a tad annoyed | 02:53 |
| nUboon2Age | sn9 he he | 02:54 |
| nUboon2Age | sn9 have you started a Sac Ubuntu Hour yet? | 02:55 |
| sn9 | philipballew has | 02:55 |
| rww | I don't think that using terms like "fuhrer" to refer to people is in line with the Code of Conduct, nUboon2Age. | 02:55 |
| sn9 | apparently there was one today, but it slipped my mind | 02:55 |
| sn9 | rww++ | 02:55 |
| sn9 | godwin's law is fail, regardless | 02:56 |
| nUboon2Age | rww probably not. but then how about "ping spam" pah!! | 02:56 |
| sn9 | well, it _was_ spam, and it _did_ ping people | 02:57 |
| rww | nUboon2Age: Criticizing your unorthodox use of highlighting is rather different from comparing someone to Hitler. | 02:57 |
| nUboon2Age | nhaines likes to snipe. rww. its good to call hom on his obnoxiousness IMO | 02:58 |
| rww | nUboon2Age: I doubt that nhaines "likes to snipe", any more than you "like to blow complaints out of proportion". | 02:58 |
| nUboon2Age | anyway we've both made our points rww so lets move on, shall we? | 02:59 |
| sn9 | sometimes irc blows _anything_ out of proportion | 02:59 |
| rww | I'm not happy with your comparison and would like at least that you not use it again and preferably that you apologize for it. | 02:59 |
| nUboon2Age | rww i hear you. ill consider it | 03:01 |
| sn9 | moving on... | 03:01 |
| nUboon2Age | moving on | 03:01 |
| sn9 | moving on? | 03:02 |
| nUboon2Age | markdude how was the Maker Faire? | 03:02 |
| * pleia2 sighs at the wiki | 03:04 | |
| rww | pleia2: What's up? | 03:05 |
| * seidos puts on a smoking jacket and lounges | 03:05 | |
| pleia2 | rww: typical timeouts and errors, very much looking forward to them completing the upgrade :) | 03:05 |
| nUboon2Age | speaking more pleasant things, i see in the paper that right at this moment n Woodside thre's a Peace & Love Festival. We should do a Peace, Love &Linux event sometime | 03:07 |
| nUboon2Age | i know our Lindepedence friends would be into that. ;-) | 03:08 |
| seidos | nUboon2Age: that sounds pretty cool | 03:08 |
| seidos | even though i have no idea what it would involve | 03:08 |
| nUboon2Age | markdude would be into it i bet. ;-) | 03:09 |
| nUboon2Age | outofjungle maybe too. ;-) | 03:10 |
| * MarkDude would be down with it | 03:10 | |
| * outofjungle too | 03:10 | |
| MarkDude | My penguin suit and a peace symbol necklace | 03:10 |
| outofjungle | what am i getting into? | 03:10 |
| sn9 | gnu/linux may be good for peace&love, but it's versatile enough to be equally suitable for war&ennui | 03:11 |
| nUboon2Age | a pinguin suit outofjungle | 03:11 |
| nUboon2Age | ;-) | 03:11 |
| outofjungle | i'm down | 03:11 |
| sn9 | outofjungle has seen the suit, at a geeknic | 03:12 |
| outofjungle | yeah, i have... MarkDude chasing birds in the suit | 03:12 |
| sn9 | yes, outofjungle was there | 03:12 |
| nUboon2Age | i'm @ Ubuntu Hour: Palo Alto and i was just saying it'd be fun to have a Peace Love & Linux event. outofjungle | 03:13 |
| seidos | i think antipathy is the opposite of love | 03:13 |
| seidos | or perhaps hate | 03:13 |
| seidos | i wonder if jim carrey will end up in a penguin suit at the end of this new movie he's in | 03:14 |
| outofjungle | nUboon2Age: I guess im missing a fun ubuntu hour. whats the word on the next geeknic? | 03:15 |
| nUboon2Age | oh great question for pleia2 and markdude! outofjungle | 03:16 |
| pleia2 | markdude was in #geeknic the other day asking about access to posting, so hopefully he's got plans ;) | 03:16 |
| sn9 | seidos: why must contrast be limited to opposites? | 03:16 |
| seidos | i heard the opposite of war isn't peace, it's creation :o | 03:16 |
| rww | seidos: hehe | 03:16 |
| seidos | sn9: it needn't be | 03:17 |
| sn9 | that's why i said something different | 03:17 |
| Eureka | wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/TeamReports/Current edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/TeamReports/11/May edited | 03:17 |
| nUboon2Age | kinda depends what kinda peace one means i think seidos. | 03:17 |
| outofjungle | pleia2: thanks, i did not know that #geeknic existed. now, i'm in :) | 03:17 |
| seidos | nUboon2Age: right on | 03:17 |
| nUboon2Age | there's the "peace" of death and destruction (plenty available in war) and then the creative peace of GanJesus, Gandhi and MLK, Dalai Lama | 03:19 |
| nUboon2Age | s/GanJ/J | 03:20 |
| seidos | that may be peace in a loosely relativistic sense | 03:20 |
| sn9 | ganja-sus? | 03:20 |
| seidos | yah-weh, odale | 03:21 |
| seidos | it really depends on factors, such as what happens after death, and what happens after killing someone | 03:22 |
| seidos | both are efforts in futility, i'm not about to find out if i can help it | 03:22 |
| nUboon2Age | yes, i just meant the silence on this earthly plane after death, destruction and war | 03:24 |
| seidos | i meant *empirically* find out | 03:24 |
| seidos | i kind of see what you are saying | 03:25 |
| nUboon2Age | and how that contrasts with peace of nonviolence and creativity. Linux is Free and nonviolent and peaceful IMO | 03:25 |
| seidos | i dunno, Torvalds' wife is like a tai boxing champion i heard | 03:25 |
| seidos | but, generally, i suspect you're right | 03:27 |
| seidos | i fear bombs more than muy thai | 03:27 |
| nUboon2Age | well consensual competition is a LOT different from coercice force IMO seidos | 03:28 |
| nUboon2Age | coercive | 03:29 |
| seidos | certainly agreed | 03:29 |
| seidos | or even force just for cheap thrills | 03:30 |
| seidos | probably the worst kind of violence | 03:31 |
| nUboon2Age | ie. sadism and sociopathy | 03:41 |
| seidos | yeah, psychopathy | 03:42 |
| seidos | i have heard talk that the world is run by psychopaths | 03:42 |
| seidos | but there are degrees to it according to the wiki article | 03:42 |
| seidos | nUboon2Age: do you follow rms' political feeds? | 03:44 |
| nUboon2Age | yes i think Bush, Cheney, Gadafi, and Sadam Hussien are all prime examples of psychopaths. | 03:45 |
| seidos | mad men | 03:46 |
| seidos | Stalin is probably the example i would use, but it's like psychopaths vying to survive against other psychopaths | 03:48 |
| seidos | or at least, that's the perception | 03:48 |
| nUboon2Age | i recently watched an excellent movie that made this point in spades: Lion in Winter with Patrick Stewart, Glenn Close etc. re: English king and Queen imposing their psychopathy on everyone around them - "colateral damage" to peasants | 03:48 |
| seidos | Patrick Stewart, i love that guy | 03:49 |
| seidos | i should see if i can get a hold of it | 03:49 |
| seidos | i've been watching House M.D. | 03:49 |
| seidos | and going back to watching Voyager | 03:50 |
| seidos | i think i may like Kate Mulgrew better than Patrick Stewart these days | 03:50 |
| nUboon2Age | thing about psycho/sociopaths is they are without conscience so they literally don't care about others, esp. "little people" in tye way | 03:51 |
| seidos | they only care about themselves | 03:51 |
| nUboon2Age | i can't beleve we have no Star Trek franchise series being created now. :-( | 03:52 |
| nUboon2Age | it'd be incredibly sad if it passed when Rodenberry passed. Didn''t we all get the Rodenberry vision of a collaborative future forhumynity? | 03:54 |
| seidos | i got that, the problem is the blood, sweat, and tears | 03:54 |
| seidos | probably isn't even so bad, just needed some vision when i was a kid, and access to valuable information | 03:55 |
| nUboon2Age | of creating new Trek series you mean? | 03:55 |
| seidos | no, i was thinking of making the technology a reality | 03:57 |
| seidos | but yeah, i suppose a new Trek series works | 03:57 |
| seidos | not easy to film it | 03:57 |
| seidos | write it | 03:57 |
| seidos | special effects | 03:57 |
| nUboon2Age | on Ubuntu news Andrew came by UH:PA and reports the learning curve n Ubuntu is too steep for him and he's moving to Mac. To be fair he's had to g | 03:57 |
| seidos | that's...odd | 03:58 |
| seidos | well, i guess it's true to a degree | 03:58 |
| seidos | maybe he wanted to create music | 03:58 |
| seidos | garage band just worked when i had a mac | 03:59 |
| crashsystems | My mom, who lives on the other side of the country (Florida), just got a new thinkpad yesterday. I easily walked her through installing Ubuntu and setting everything up, and she was surprised how easy everything was. | 03:59 |
| nUboon2Age | deal w a grad student comp sci sociopath who was cracking and messing with his computer so its not completely an Ubuntu problem. | 03:59 |
| seidos | what's your mother's background crashsystems ? | 03:59 |
| crashsystems | Not a computer person. Just got her PHD in educational psychology. | 04:00 |
| seidos | mmm hmm | 04:00 |
| seidos | my mom rejected ubuntu | 04:01 |
| seidos | or, rather, open office | 04:01 |
| crashsystems | thats understandable | 04:01 |
| nUboon2Age | good night all. i'm out. hope to intro my mom.to Ubuntu l later this year. 75 years old. smart but struggles w a Mac(!!!???!!!) | 04:02 |
| pleia2 | good night nUboon2Age | 04:03 |
| seidos | night nUboon2Age, God speed | 04:04 |
| nUboon2Age | btw a friend is struggling w mail app in Open Office. ill have to research the prob. later. nite pleai2 | 04:04 |
| pleia2 | finally got our new branding sleeves, logos and flyers into bzr: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-california | 07:35 |
| Eureka | wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/CDSleeves edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Logo edited | 07:51 |
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