[01:28] <cyberanger> Unit193: no, I hadn't
[01:36] <Unit193> Does that mean you looked at it now? ;)
[02:50] <cyberanger> Unit193: no, but now I did ;-)
[02:50] <cyberanger> it meant I added it to a list for later
[02:50] <cyberanger> and later was 10 minutes ago ;-)
[02:50] <Unit193> What do you think?
[02:52] <cyberanger> intresting, I've gotten so used to kinda doing my own
[02:52] <cyberanger> Security - Zenix includes an active firewall (iptables configured with GUFW), psad, and fwsnort.
[02:52] <cyberanger> that right there just stands out
[02:53] <Unit193> ...I forgot to give you a link!
[02:53] <Unit193> Did you look at the Awesome page?
[02:53] <cyberanger> sends a mixed message about linux security, but towards my line of thinking
[02:53] <cyberanger> just cause it's as tight as a bank vault, doesn't mean I cannot make it more like fort knox
[02:54] <cyberanger> sorry, should have added, only could find Zenix on google (well, without more digging, I did say 10 minutes)
[02:55] <cyberanger> I did find Bodhi_zazen as a forum member there, but nothing clearly about Awesome, unless you mean the WM
[02:55] <Unit193> http://zenix-os.net/awesome.html
[02:55] <cyberanger> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awesome_%28window_manager%29
[02:56] <cyberanger> ah, that'd be why, ruled out the same domain as zenix
[02:57] <cyberanger> oh, actually, that has been used too (didn't recognize it) went back to OBox shortly after
[02:59] <Unit193> It's not bad... (Not using it as the main, but it's rather nice once you get used to it)
[04:27] <Unit193> Howdy, orias
[04:28] <orias> o/
[04:28] <orias> how goes it?
[04:28] <Unit193> Not too shabby!
[04:32]  * cyberanger yawns
[04:32] <cyberanger> hey orias
[04:34] <orias> o/
[04:34] <orias> how goes it?
[04:39] <cyberanger> good, you?
[04:44] <orias> pretty good, although not as good as i was
[11:00] <chris4585> I didn't realize such a thing actually existed, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/use-classic-menu-in-unity-classicmenu.html
[11:00] <chris4585> unity just needs to be overhauled imo
[13:40] <wrst> i think unity needs to be scrapped
[13:46] <vychune> o/
[15:52] <cyberanger> wrst: or scuttled, or thrown out like garbage, rubbish, crap
[15:53] <cyberanger> take your pick
[15:53] <cyberanger> chris4585: until they do overhaul it right, and I see it working, I'm gonna lean to scuttling it
[15:54] <cyberanger> partially due to the people that saw this and don't understand it'll get better
[15:54] <cyberanger> the people we won over from vista in 2006
[16:08] <wrst> cyberanger: we need to keep them on a lts probably
[16:29] <cyberanger> wrst: that'll be worse next lts release though
[17:22] <wrst> hopefully not
[17:29] <cyberanger> on what I read, I'm nervous
[18:17] <orias> has anyone had a good experience with gnome3 on 10.04?
[18:21] <cyberanger> orias: I didn't think gnome3 was released in time for lucid
[18:21] <orias> it's not
[18:21] <orias> but it's installable
[18:32] <wrst> orias: don't bother I tried it on 10.10 the ppa is old and stinks
[18:32] <orias> how bad?
[18:33] <wrst> very if you want gnome 3 now I would go with fedora, or wait until the 11.10 alpha gets everything in it
[18:34] <wrst> unless you really want to do a lot of work
[18:35] <orias> :/
[18:35]  * orias is lazy about that
[19:58] <cyberanger> I would not rule debian out
[19:59] <cyberanger> but wrst seems spot on for fedora and gnome3, but I <3 debian based distros more than the frontends on them
[20:03] <orias> :D
[20:08] <vychune> lol
[20:10] <vychune> cyberanger: fav deb distro?
[20:12] <chris4585> fedora 15 with gnome3 is so.. so nice
[20:13] <vychune> fedora always kernal panics on me
[20:13] <orias> fedora (12) was so unstable and flaky for me, it turned me off of fed