| Unit193 | drc: Internet issues? | 00:11 |
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| DarkEra | drc needs to enter his password in Xchat not only in nickserv but also in server to solve the changing host and cloak problem. ;-) | 01:01 |
| Unit193 | I have SASL so even timeouts don't take it off... | 01:02 |
| DarkEra | and if you do /set irc_join_delay 10 ? | 01:04 |
| DarkEra | seems i read that wrong.... my bad | 01:08 |
| cody-somerville | I think there might be a serious memory leak issue with natty. | 01:59 |
| cody-somerville | and indeed I can confirm | 02:25 |
| cody-somerville | gltext has a massive memory leak | 02:25 |
| DarkEra | does this affect every *buntu Natty release? | 02:26 |
| * DarkEra is still trying to learn after 3 years of using Linux | 02:27 | |
| cody-somerville | Out of the box, only Xubuntu + Mythbuntu. We're the only ones who use xscreensaver. | 02:28 |
| cody-somerville | s/use/ship by default/ | 02:29 |
| cody-somerville | Does reboot work for anyone else? It doesn't work for me. | 02:31 |
| DarkEra | so this memory leak could have caused the freeze of my netbook then yesterday evening while the screensaver was on for a while | 02:33 |
| Unit193 | cody-somerville: I'm currently stuck in TTY right now... | 02:33 |
| cody-somerville | DarkEra, Yes! | 02:34 |
| cody-somerville | DarkEra, Its caused *huge* performance issues for me as it causes all my other applications to swap to disk | 02:34 |
| cody-somerville | and then they're super slow | 02:34 |
| cody-somerville | and I was like... ugh, natty sucks | 02:34 |
| DarkEra | i needed to shut it down... the hard way :( | 02:35 |
| cody-somerville | DarkEra, Try disabling the gltext screensaver and see if you run into the problem again. | 02:35 |
| cody-somerville | LP #768032 is the bug, btw. | 02:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 768032 in xscreensaver (Ubuntu Natty) "gltext seems to leak memory eventually causing oom-killer to run" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768032 | 02:35 |
| DarkEra | cody-somerville, i set the screensaver on Blank Screen only and had no problems after that | 02:36 |
| Pjotr | I would like to make a suggestion for Xubuntu 11.10 | 13:57 |
| Pjotr | The default desktop would look much nicer and tidier, if all hard disk partitions wouldn't be mounted automatically | 13:58 |
| charlie-tca | agreed | 13:58 |
| charlie-tca | but to not mount them would also mean not auto-mounting cdrom or usb drives | 13:59 |
| Pjotr | easy to change of course, but first impressions are important. | 13:59 |
| Pjotr | @charlie-tca: can't thoise categories be separated? | 13:59 |
| charlie-tca | But not easy to make happen | 13:59 |
| charlie-tca | They are not separate in Xfce, which makes it very difficult | 14:00 |
| Pjotr | an issue for upstream then? | 14:00 |
| charlie-tca | yes, which they are working on | 14:00 |
| Pjotr | in Xfce 4.10? Or will it be backported to 4.8 as well? | 14:01 |
| charlie-tca | don't know yet if it will be available in 4.10 | 14:01 |
| Pjotr | OK.... Thanks for the info | 14:02 |
| Pjotr | One other issue: the default wallpaper in Xubuntu is very dark. It would look much more atractive if a lighter wallpaper would be used. Again: in order to improve first impression.... | 14:04 |
| charlie-tca | Everybody seems to have a different opinion when it comes to light vs dark wallpaper. We had many people hate the lighter background. | 14:04 |
| charlie-tca | However, it is very easy to change wallpapers. | 14:05 |
| Pjotr | yes, but first impressions matter... | 14:05 |
| charlie-tca | and many people think the darker wallpaper is a huge improvement over the light | 14:05 |
| charlie-tca | again, different opinions | 14:05 |
| charlie-tca | We can't please everyone | 14:06 |
| Pjotr | tastes differ. :P | 14:06 |
| charlie-tca | exactly | 14:06 |
| charlie-tca | which is why we include the light background, all you have to do is change it | 14:06 |
| charlie-tca | but most people don't see it much, since they open their applications and go to work | 14:06 |
| Pjotr | that's true ofcourse. | 14:07 |
| Pjotr | well, Xubuntu 11.04 has become very elegant, I think | 14:07 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 14:08 |
| Pjotr | a good contender for Unity | 14:08 |
| Pjotr | the dock is particularly nice, I think. Both beautiful and functional | 14:08 |
| charlie-tca | A lot of time and effort went into making the theme and panels work well | 14:09 |
| Pjotr | it's steady as a rock as well. Thanks for a great product! :-) | 14:10 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks for letting us know. | 14:10 |
| Pjotr | have to go now. bye. | 14:10 |
| drc | 57 updates? On a Daily Build? | 14:40 |
| charlie-tca | huh? | 14:44 |
| charlie-tca | seems low | 14:44 |
| charlie-tca | alternate images don't exist | 14:44 |
| charlie-tca | We should start seeing between 100 and 200 a day soon | 14:44 |
| drc | I know I was doing Live-64-Entire...just for practice. | 14:45 |
| charlie-tca | We will have a ton of updates daily real soon | 14:45 |
| drc | This was not an update, this was a fresh install of the daily build. Ther are that many updates between the time they build the image and now? | 14:45 |
| charlie-tca | and, yes, they will build the images, an hour later there will be a lot of updates for that image | 14:46 |
| * drc starts looking for his LMDE cd....er...dvd ;) | 14:46 | |
| charlie-tca | The image is just a snapshot of what is there at the moment of the build | 14:46 |
| charlie-tca | Since updates are put through 24 hours a day, they never stop | 14:47 |
| charlie-tca | I don't think we will get a fix on the alternate image this weekend, since the weekend after the milestone is usually pretty dead | 14:51 |
| charlie-tca | I think it is a server issue, though | 14:51 |
| drc | Well, then that server will get no tip from me, such lousy service. | 14:52 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 14:52 |
| drc | Well well well..."Not all updates can be installed" | 14:54 |
| charlie-tca | normal | 14:54 |
| charlie-tca | it means that they are still updating packages | 14:55 |
| drc | just do the partial? | 14:55 |
| drc | or wait | 14:55 |
| charlie-tca | or they broke the update-manager | 14:55 |
| charlie-tca | partial will break things | 14:55 |
| drc | wait it is | 14:55 |
| charlie-tca | most of the time | 14:55 |
| drc | OK...how to get VB to recognize a USB Stick...I've done Settings>USB, Enable USB controller is checked, The USB stick is there and checked, When I run the VM the USB is there in Devices> USBDevices, but greyed out and it won't mount? | 14:58 |
| drc | me thinks this will be another facepalm moment for him...and so early in the day too.... | 14:59 |
| charlie-tca | click the usb thing at the bottom of the vbox window | 14:59 |
| charlie-tca | after you launched | 14:59 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know how to install from it, though | 15:00 |
| charlie-tca | clicking it or right clicking it lets you mount it | 15:00 |
| drc | NO USB Devices Attached...click does nothing...the greyed out USB stck is listed there also. | 15:01 |
| drc | OH well...can't do any tests...calls for a USB test and I can;t do one...Oh Woe Is Me.... | 15:02 |
| charlie-tca | okay, are you in the VBox users group on the main system? | 15:03 |
| charlie-tca | Users must be added to the vboxusers group to allow USB drives to be used in VirtualBox | 15:03 |
| charlie-tca | go to menu -> System -> Users and Groups | 15:03 |
| charlie-tca | Add drc to the group vboxusers | 15:04 |
| charlie-tca | Then you have to restart or logout to activate that change | 15:04 |
| charlie-tca | Then you can use USB in VBox | 15:04 |
| charlie-tca | This is harder to find in the documentation for VBox | 15:06 |
| drc | orly? | 15:06 |
| charlie-tca | yup, knome found it | 15:07 |
| drc | On the Host, not the VM, right? | 15:08 |
| charlie-tca | right | 15:08 |
| drc | logout | 15:08 |
| drc | Works | 15:11 |
| charlie-tca | Good | 15:11 |
| charlie-tca | now to get some testing done... | 15:11 |
| drc | I *knew* if I mentioned not being able to test, you'd find a solution :) | 15:11 |
| drc | 64-Live-Entire short test done | 15:12 |
| charlie-tca | Wow! that was fast, too | 15:13 |
| drc | That's what my wife says too.... | 15:13 |
| charlie-tca | if you use sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, there are 59 upgrades, 1 new, 3 removed | 15:13 |
| drc | The only odd thing was Firefox: about:startpage - Not Found - The requested URL /11.10/Google was not found on this server. | 15:14 |
| charlie-tca | nothing held back | 15:14 |
| charlie-tca | You need to run updates, that was fixed | 15:14 |
| drc | darn it | 15:14 |
| drc | I was gonna take a nap...tiring work, testing | 15:15 |
| charlie-tca | I know ;-) | 15:15 |
| charlie-tca | I might have to take tomorrow off, too. | 15:15 |
| drc | Well...I suppose...maybe we could let you. | 15:20 |
| drc | Assuming the update goes well, an email to the -devel ML stating the test done and the results would be in order? | 15:22 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, that would be good | 15:22 |
| drc | Do I need to report the firefox thingie ? | 15:23 |
| charlie-tca | or what failed | 15:23 |
| charlie-tca | no, it is already reported as a bug | 15:23 |
| charlie-tca | I can kick monday about it not being in the image yet | 15:23 |
| drc | OK, then...All Systems Go. 64-Live-Short passed. | 15:24 |
| charlie-tca | Great! | 15:25 |
| charlie-tca | When I go away today, I won't be back until Oneiric is installed | 15:30 |
| charlie-tca | running resize test | 15:34 |
| charlie-tca | Install for 64bit desktop cd does not work from the desktop | 15:39 |
| charlie-tca | It can only be run from the cd menu itself. It does a logout after partitioning during the live desktop install | 15:39 |
| charlie-tca | (and, you can not log back in, since the only known user in GDM is "other" | 15:40 |
| charlie-tca | VirtualBox installation, not tried hardware | 15:41 |
| drc | huh, did not try from Desktop, did the LiveCD test and then away to do something and came back rebooted and installed from the menu. | 15:46 |
| drc | charlie-tca: When I send the mail to the ML, I'll note that menu install...you going to note the Desktop problem? | 15:47 |
| charlie-tca | no, I am the one the reports go to | 15:49 |
| drc | Well, report yourself ;) | 15:49 |
| charlie-tca | report myself to myself? | 15:49 |
| drc | and make sure you don't play favorites | 15:50 |
| charlie-tca | I will try not to | 15:50 |
| Unit193 | I still have the 32LiveCD? | 18:26 |
| drc | Unit193: Yup | 18:27 |
| Unit193 | Sweet. Heh, it's 800M | 18:28 |
| drc | The 64Live coud not install from the Desktop icon (according the charlie-tca, I didn't try ot), so you may have to do the LiveCD test and then re-boot to install from the initial men. | 18:28 |
| drc | menu,,sheesh...fngers are tired today | 18:29 |
| charlie-tca | Unit193: usb drive or VBox, either one should work | 20:09 |
| charlie-tca | hm, looking at the build logs, I think 32bit should from the live desktop, but 64bit will have issues. | 20:12 |
| charlie-tca | Well, I have to go install Oneiric now. Back later, when it is working ;-) | 20:31 |
| drc | in October? | 20:32 |
| * astraljava hi^5s drc | 20:44 | |
| astraljava | err... that's rather redundant | 20:44 |
| astraljava | ^5s | 20:44 |
| Unit193 | drc AND charlie-tca are gone... | 23:04 |
| Unit193 | drc: Great! You're back! | 23:48 |
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