[00:05] <surreal7z> i have only onre problem with xubuntu.... how can I put panels NOT always os top?... without auto hiding?... it drives me crazy.... :(  even win xp has that option....   I just want to be able maximize windows over panels, without auto hiding them.
[00:05] <surreal7z> 11.04
[00:05] <surreal7z> on*
[00:05] <surreal7z> one*
[00:06] <surreal7z> to*
[00:13] <ysis> surreal7z: Maybe ask in #xfce? I don't know of any such option.
[00:14] <surreal7z> tnx for info
[01:00] <xubuntu589> hey peeps. i just inastalled Xubuntu v11.4 so this means i am brand new in the world of linux os. just wanted to say "hi"
[01:00] <xubuntu589> and maybe ask for help from time to time :-)
[01:01] <pleia2> welcome :)
[01:01] <xubuntu589> :-) thanks
[01:01] <ysis> xubuntu589: Good choice you made. :o) Don't be shy (but don't forget to use Google). And: Hi!
[01:02] <DarkEra> welcome and congrats xubuntu589 :)
[01:02] <xubuntu589> yeah i know :-) google is your best friend. i'll try to get my oinfo out of google but sometimes you need hints and tips from experiencxed users
[01:04] <ysis> xubuntu589: Sure.
[01:05] <xubuntu589> so thank ya'll for the warm welcomming. i need to go to work now. but i will be back. and maybe with one or two questions :-)
[01:05] <xubuntu589> bye fellas
[01:05] <DarkEra> bye
[02:01] <djiefo> Hi
[02:02] <djiefo> theres any way to change icons in xu 11.04?
[02:03] <bazhang> right click properties click the little picture
[02:04] <djiefo> isnt not working
[02:04] <djiefo> nothing happen
[02:04] <bazhang> no picture?
[02:04] <djiefo> yes but if i click on it, nothing happens
[02:05] <djiefo> The file is Minecraft.jar
[02:05] <bazhang> make a launcher then
[02:05] <djiefo> a shortcut?
[02:06] <bazhang> right click desktop create launcher?
[02:06] <djiefo> omg
[02:06] <djiefo> nice stuff
[02:07] <bazhang> success? put a command in there to start up minecraft
[02:07] <djiefo> i cant selec application .jar i think
[02:08] <djiefo> what should be this command pls?
[02:09] <djiefo> iNoob
[02:09] <djiefo> nvm
[02:13] <djiefo> no
[12:56] <djiefo> Hi, I want to make a launcher to this file  /home/djiefo/minecraft.jar whats the corect syntax of the command to refer to it? Thx
[13:04] <djiefo> Is it possible to create a launcher for a .jar file?
[13:10] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743823 djiefo
[13:17] <djiefo> bazhang someone just said me to try alacarte
[13:17] <djiefo> is it good?
[13:18] <bazhang> djiefo, you're crossposting, that is not good manners
[13:18] <djiefo> oh ok
[13:18] <bazhang> no idea. I found that link above
[13:22] <djiefo> bazhang, its not working on xu11
[13:23] <djiefo> i mean i created the launcher, but the command line is wrong because its not working at all
[14:14] <djiefo> Someone can help me? I've been on this problem for so long... :(
[14:14] <djiefo> I'm using xubuntu 11.04. Minecraft runs well :) The only thing is that I linked minecraft.jar in the desktop, but I can't change the icon in fil properties. I tried to create a launcher but i dunno wich command to write. The main file path is: /home/djiefo/minecraft.jar
[14:15] <charlie-tca> the .jar is a java application, I don't know how to create a launcher to start them
[14:16] <djiefo> yeah... same :(
[14:16] <charlie-tca> Try looking in /usr/share/applications/minecraft    using mousepad to see what the exec= says
[14:16] <charlie-tca> but , as a .jar, you might not be able to change their icon
[14:18] <djiefo> theres any way to create a shortcut to a terminal command in desktop?
[14:18] <charlie-tca> yes, there is
[14:18] <djiefo> I font have enough knowledge to run in throught terminal so
[14:19] <djiefo> path is: /home/djiefo/minecraft.jar
[14:19] <djiefo> java6
[14:19] <charlie-tca> create the launcher, click on run in terminal
[14:20] <djiefo> what could be the corext command syntax?
[14:20] <djiefo> correct*
[14:20] <charlie-tca> if you are on Xubuntu 11.04, create the launcher, right click after you finish, click edit (the pencil), click on "run in terminal"
[14:21] <charlie-tca> what is the exact command you use in terminal?
[14:21] <djiefo> i'm not using any command to it, I create a link to the desktop
[14:21] <djiefo> It runs well
[14:21] <djiefo> But not the good icon
[14:22] <djiefo> i just dunno wich command use for runs it through terminal
[14:22] <charlie-tca> I don't know either. I don't have the game
[14:22] <charlie-tca> what did it say the exec was?
[14:22] <djiefo> it runs with Java
[14:23] <charlie-tca> so, it said exec= java ?
[14:25] <djiefo> charlie-tca,  The file '/home/djiefo/Desktop/Minecraft0.desktop' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[14:26] <charlie-tca> right click it, open with....    mousepad
[14:26] <djiefo> whats mousepad?
[14:26] <djiefo> i dont have it
[14:26] <charlie-tca> did minecraft create the launcher or did you?
[14:26] <charlie-tca> mousepad is the editor in Xubuntu
[14:26] <charlie-tca> Whjat
[14:27] <charlie-tca> What are you using?
[14:27] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, ???
[14:28] <djiefo> minecraft is a java game... im using xubuntu 11.04... When u download the game from source it's called minecraft.jar   you need to install Java6 to run it.
[14:28] <charlie-tca> If you are using Xubuntu, you have mousepad
[14:28] <charlie-tca> Then I don't know how to run it in terminal.
[14:28] <djiefo> i don't see any mousepad by click clicking on minecraft.jar
[14:29] <charlie-tca> apparently, I don't have the game
[14:29] <djiefo> right clicking
[14:29] <djiefo> huh ok
[14:29] <charlie-tca> I would guess you can not change the icon, since it is a jar file
[14:29] <djiefo> I know that now.
[14:29] <djiefo> But how to create a redirect to it
[14:30] <djiefo> Like a shortcut that automaticly runs the file minecraft.ar in path:    /home/desktop/minecraft.jar
[14:31] <djiefo> I could change the icon of this redirect cause i will not be a JAR it will be a shortcut
[14:38] <charlie-tca> Maybe someone else will know how to do that. I don't think I have any .jar files, myself
[14:40] <djiefo> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M - jar ~/home/djiefo/Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[14:40] <djiefo> ...not working
[14:43] <djiefo> i tried sudo java  - jar ~/home/djiefo/Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame in terminal... not working
[14:46] <djiefo> i mean if I could bu atleast able to run it trough terminal it will give me the command to enter in the launcher editory
[17:13] <charlie-tca> Anyone got experience with Trackballs? Is the Kensington worth the $100.00 U.S / 68.34 Euro ??
[17:22] <djiefo> Hi there!
[17:22] <djiefo> here's what happen when i'm clicking on Animation Add-On http://paste.ubuntu.com/618378/
[17:23] <djiefo> In compiz
[17:30] <drc> charlie-tca: The last time I used a trackball was on a Mac Plus in the 80's(?) :)
[17:31] <drc> And, irrc, it was a Kensington.
[17:37] <djiefo> here's what happen when i'm clicking on Animation Add-On http://paste.ubuntu.com/618378/
[17:37] <djiefo> In compiz
[18:07] <CrazyGir> hello! what is the proper way to restart networking in xubuntu - the primary goal is to reinitialize the ethX interfaces/refresh dhcp, etc
[18:13] <Thermi> CrazyGir in therminal: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:14] <Sysi> service network(manager) restart is modern way
[18:14] <Sysi> i'm not sure if network and networkmanager are same scripts
[18:17] <CrazyGir> the init.d method barks at you that it is deprecated
[18:17] <CrazyGir> and it takes my interfaces down without bringing them back up
[18:17] <CrazyGir> (sometimes it is fine)
[18:17] <CrazyGir> Sysi: network(managet) ?
[18:18] <Thermi> CrazyGir :O
[18:25] <Thermi> root@thermi-Latitude-D600:~# /etc/init.d/networking start  stop
[18:25] <Thermi> on Debian, there also is restart o.O
[18:26] <pleia2> Thermi: init is different on xubuntu :)
[18:26] <Thermi> yes, that's what i noticed now
[18:26] <pleia2> service $foo start/stop/restart is the new way to manipulate services
[18:26] <Thermi> but i thought it was similiar, because Xubuntu is a derivate of Debian :X
[18:26] <Thermi> ok :p
[18:26] <pleia2> debian uses sysvinit, ubuntu uses upstart, very different systems
[18:27] <Thermi> oooh
[18:27] <Thermi> ok
[18:27] <pleia2> it's one of the ways it diverged from debian :)
[18:27] <Thermi> :(
[18:27] <Thermi> service networking also only gives me start and stop :X
[18:27] <Thermi> seems like restart got lost
[18:28] <pleia2> it depends on the service, most should still have restart scripts
[18:31] <Jackneill> hi
[18:32] <Jackneill> i just installed xubuntu 11.04 as xubuntu desktop
[18:32] <Jackneill> but when in the grub i select ubuntu
[18:32] <Jackneill> i get black screen
[18:32] <Jackneill> but when i installed ubuntu, it worked perfect
[18:32] <Jackneill> so i dont know whats the problem
[18:35] <Jackneill> if i install ubuntu 11.04 and after i install xfce for it, will be same with xubuntu
[18:35] <Jackneill> ?
[19:33] <sokuban> trying to install Xubuntu with the desktop CD and it's stopping at "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py:605: GtkWarning: Attempt to load unknown IM context type 'im' gtk.main()" for quite a while, any help?
[19:34] <sokuban> oh, nvm, it started moving
[22:35] <xubuntu230> installing xubuntu via Wubi in XP on a FAT32 is a pain in the butt
[22:36] <xubuntu230> can only set partition size to 4gb max due the fat32 limitation
[22:36] <xubuntu230> but the error message on wubi is not speficic
[22:36] <xubuntu230> and tells you something else instead
[23:39] <jammonstrald> anyone know of a way to have Thunar show the location bar in the "browse" dialog boxes?