[00:11] <dmc_> hellio
[00:12] <Monika> hi
[00:19] <DeltaEpsilon> Is it possible to remove some items such as "trash" from "places" on the left of Dolphin?
[00:22] <Monika> Yes, right-click, remove entry
[00:22] <Monika> or just hide
[00:22] <Monika> either way
[00:24] <DeltaEpsilon> thank you
[00:24] <DeltaEpsilon> it seems KDE/Dolphin does not preview image files..
[00:25] <Monika> I had this problem after upgrading to 11.04
[00:26] <Monika> go into its settings and just set all the checkmarks again
[00:26] <Monika> or just for the image types, whichever you prefer
[00:26] <mathew> i need some Free GIS applications
[00:26] <mathew> anyone
[00:26] <Monika> in Dolphin settings under General > Preview
[00:26] <Monika> what#s GIS?
[00:26] <DeltaEpsilon> Monika: what check marks?
[00:26] <mathew> Geographical Informattion Systems
[00:27] <Monika> DeltaEpsilon in Dolphin settings under General > Preview
[00:27] <mathew> anythng related to that?
[00:27] <Monika> mathew is this like OpenStreetMap?
[00:27] <mathew> yepp
[00:27] <DeltaEpsilon> Monika: does not work
[00:28] <mathew> can i get itthrough snaptic application manager?
[00:28] <Monika> but you found those settings?
[00:28] <Monika> and set the checkmarks?
[00:28] <mathew> i mean package manager
[00:28] <DeltaEpsilon> Monika: I checked all the types
[00:29] <Monika> and have you pressed the preview button for the folder you want?
[00:29] <DeltaEpsilon> Monika: got it working
[00:30] <DeltaEpsilon> I have to check "preview" in View menu
[00:30] <Monika> yeah, that's the same as pressing the Preview button
[00:30] <mathew> what other applicatrion can i use   i am a graphics designer
[00:31] <Monika> install marble
[01:39] <Walzmyn> I have an application that, as it runs, opens a closes a child window several times. Is there a way I can make the task bar ignore this window so it's not playing havoc with the rest of my system?
[01:50] <LINKSWORD2> Greetings, all.
[01:51] <Monika> hi
[01:51] <lcb> hi LINKSWORD2
[01:52] <LINKSWORD2> :O Whatever it is, I swear I'm innocent!!!
[01:52] <LINKSWORD2> Wait... Nevermind. Guilty conscience...
[01:54] <lcb> you did something
[01:54] <LINKSWORD2> LOL! Nah.
[01:54] <lcb> you said hi all
[01:54] <lcb> and all... is absent
[01:54] <LINKSWORD2> It's sort of a joke...
[01:54] <lcb> :)
[01:56] <Linkmaster> lcb: he wants you to think he did something
[01:56] <Linkmaster> LINKSWORD2: sorry about that in advacne
[01:56] <LINKSWORD2> And... Well, about ten years ago, one of my classmates in high school rolled his truck and left this world.
[01:56] <lcb> Linkmaster: so you are there too. good morning.
[01:56] <Linkmaster> Morning? I quite think its the opposite here xD
[01:57] <lcb> Linkmaster: good Sunday
[01:57] <lcb> ohh whatever, have a good one :p
[01:57] <Linkmaster> Sunday??? I think its a Saturday in these parts
[01:58] <lcb> here sunday already, almost 2am
[01:58] <LINKSWORD2> About a week before, the principal had been standing behind his chair in class, and decided to rather loudly close a book.
[01:58] <LINKSWORD2> Our friend, known for a guilty conscience, said; "Whatever it is, I swear I'm innocent!"
[01:58] <lcb> hehehe
[01:58] <Linkmaster> Now of course, don't get me wrong, thats just what my lil ole computer tells me. For all we know, the world could have been offbalance since the beginning of measurements, making the world a different date
[01:58] <Linkmaster> and LINKSWORD2 that made me laugh :P
[01:59] <LINKSWORD2> So... My words are somewhat of a joke, and partly a tribute to him, as he left this world all too soon....
[02:00] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: i do that a lot too, joking w/ppl. but indeed there is somewhere, somehow, a guilty conscience in me.
[02:00] <Linkmaster> I'm never guilty
[02:00] <Linkmaster> >.>
[02:00] <Linkmaster> <.<
[02:00] <Monika> 3 a.m. here
[02:00] <LINKSWORD2> lcb: I encourage you to please read the whole story....
[02:01] <lcb> LinkmasterAngel
[02:01] <LINKSWORD2> Angel?! YOU MUST BE JOKING!!!!
[02:01] <Linkmaster> c:
[02:02]  * LINKSWORD2 can see the Devil horns on Linkmaster's head...
[02:02]  * Linkmaster is hovering with a soft glow around him. w/o Devil horns
[02:02] <Linkmaster> c:0
[02:03] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: i didn't read the first msg of what you wrote. the sad one. sorry about that.
[02:03] <LINKSWORD2> lcb: I assume you have seen the whole story, now?
[02:03] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: yeap
[02:04] <gundri> hello
[02:04] <Linkmaster> hello
[02:04] <lcb> hello gundri
[02:04] <LINKSWORD2> Greetings.
[02:04] <Linkmaster> LINKSWORD2: I just noticed the first part now, and I feel bad for laughing
[02:05] <gundri> hello icb
[02:05]  * LINKSWORD2 beats Linkmaster across the head with an old AT keyboard!
[02:05] <gundri> i am new here..
[02:05] <lcb> they are still usable LINKSWORD2. Linkmaster keep it
[02:05]  * Linkmaster dodges, and wonders if we should bring this to #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:06] <lcb> gundri: i'm the oldest one here. about 56 yrs young
[02:06] <lcb> oops, got scared
[02:06] <Linkmaster> woww
[02:07] <Monika> Yeah, well, she looked death into the eyes.
[02:07] <lcb> hehehe
[02:07] <The_Letter_M> HEllo
[02:07] <The_Letter_M> I have a question
[02:07] <Monika> hi M
[02:07] <Monika> ask your question
[02:07] <lcb> The_Letter_M: me 2
[02:07] <LINKSWORD2> gundri, here's a little FYI: "lcb"s name is compilation of the lowercase L-C-B. It angers him to be called "icb"
[02:07] <lcb> The_Letter_M:  can i ask first?
[02:08] <The_Letter_M> yeah
[02:08] <lcb> The_Letter_M: my question is; hat's your question?
[02:08] <lcb> what's too
[02:08]  * LINKSWORD2 *Facepalm.*
[02:08] <lcb> :p
[02:08] <Linkmaster> lcb: well, hats are fairly explainable
[02:08] <Monika> löl
[02:08] <lcb> lol
[02:08] <Linkmaster> they go on your head, cover from sun, rain, other elements, and generally look pleasing
[02:09] <lcb> only now i noticed we aren't at offtopic...
[02:09] <LINKSWORD2> And if your name is Link, they look quite good if they're long and floppy. :)
[02:09] <The_Letter_M> I have a nettop (as in Atom processor w/ no CDROM or Floppy drive) running Kubuntu, I need to flash the BIOS. Is there a way to do it directly from Kubuntu, or is there a good way I can do it from a USB stick?
[02:09]  * Linkmaster had mentioned it before
[02:10]  * Linkmaster also doesn't mess with BIOS flashing
[02:10] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: :)
[02:10]  * LINKSWORD2 agrees
[02:10] <Linkmaster> LINKSWORD2: get in -offtopic
[02:10] <LINKSWORD2> I.T. commandments: Thou Shalt not touch the BIOS.
[02:10] <The_Letter_M> lol
[02:11] <Linkmaster> :Thou Shalt not touch the kernel
[02:11] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[02:11] <Linkmaster> Thou Shalt not also use Winblows
[02:11] <Monika> Nee nee nee: Thou shalt recompile teh kernel.
[02:11] <LINKSWORD2> Eh, yeah... I'm not that crazy.
[02:11] <Linkmaster> Monika: thats allowed, since your fixing it
[02:12] <LINKSWORD2> The last time I tried to touch the kernel, it popped... And I got popcorn....
[02:12] <lcb> The_Letter_M: read the whole procedure. you might have a readyou.txt file with the bios upgrade
[02:12] <Linkmaster> :D
[02:12] <LINKSWORD2> :/
[02:12] <Linkmaster> Edit: Thou Shalt not use Windows unless its XP and removed of useless bloat
[02:13] <The_Letter_M> Well I was running Vanilla Natty, then switched to Fedora 15, then to Kubuntu
[02:13] <Monika> Thou shalt not use Windows, especially not XP. Windows 2000 may be used in emergencies.
[02:13] <lcb> wis there a Mini Kubuntu, Linkmaster? :P
[02:14] <The_Letter_M> I have a problem that occurs in both versions of Ubuntu but not in Fedora
[02:14] <The_Letter_M> I'm hoping updating my BIOS fixes it
[02:14] <Monika> The_Letter_M usually BIOS cannot be flashe from within an OS.
[02:14] <Linkmaster> lcb: possibly? Not sure :P
[02:14] <Monika> hm, if it does not occur in Fedora, that indicates it would not be a BIOS problem
[02:14] <The_Letter_M> Actually
[02:14] <The_Letter_M> hmm
[02:14] <LINKSWORD2> Monika is correct, concerning that it would not be a BIOS issue, in that case.
[02:15] <Linkmaster> Monika: XP isn't that bad...if its had the crap hacked out of it
[02:15] <The_Letter_M> I've seen some that do it from within Windows
[02:15] <The_Letter_M> but only in Windows
[02:15] <Monika> XP is colorful, a giant security hole and needs to be registered.
[02:15] <lcb> The_Letter_M: some upgrades yes, not for all motherboards, afaik
[02:16] <The_Letter_M> right
[02:16] <LINKSWORD2> Yeah...
[02:16] <The_Letter_M> But that's not my issue
[02:16] <The_Letter_M> I need to figure out how to flash it directly from Linux or from a USB drive
[02:16] <lcb> The_Letter_M: read the info files and BEFORE select/download the correct one
[02:16] <LINKSWORD2> Most, and again I say MOST updates to the BIOS can be flashed via CD or USB... Or in the case of older systems... Floppy.
[02:17] <LINKSWORD2> But good luck finding a working floppy. lol
[02:17] <lcb> The_Letter_M: very careful doing that. but, in meantime, there are some live boot cd utilities with bios upgrades
[02:21] <lcb> ping
[02:21]  * lcb pong
[02:21] <Monika> pong
[02:21] <lcb> :p
[02:21] <lcb> so quiet i got bored, so i decided to play a bit
[02:23] <lcb> weird - my WLAN didn't connect to one hidden wireless (with correct info inputed). i had to open it.
[03:05] <Daskreech> Anyone can help troubleshoot a Akonadi Mysql conflice?
[03:05] <Daskreech> conflict?
[03:50] <Magnusson> can someone help me figure out why my kwin desktop effects have suddently stopped working? desktop cube, cover switch, etc
[04:00] <Daskreech> Magnusson: are they on?
[04:01] <Magnusson> Daskreech>yep, at least they're checked in system settings. whenever i click apply , i get the popup "the following desktop effects could not be enabled" and then lists all those
[04:02] <Daskreech> Magnusson: did you hav any changes before this happened?
[04:02] <Magnusson> no :(
[04:02] <Magnusson> had been working just fine
[04:10] <CartoonCat> Hellos
[04:10] <Magnusson> Daskreech>is there an error file somewhere or something i could possibly look at to figure out what's wrong?
[04:10] <Daskreech> Hi CartoonCat
[04:10] <Daskreech> Magnusson: hmm I think so
[04:10] <CartoonCat> im having a issue and i am sure i need ot reinstall qt and libc, but not sure how to do with kpackage
[04:10] <CartoonCat> hello Daskreech
[04:11] <Daskreech> Magnusson: ~/.xsession-errors I think
[04:56] <matti_> Huomenta.
[04:57] <matti_> Oh, Good Morning. (I just realized this might be international channel)
[04:58] <brandon> Good evening, you're correct :)
[05:00] <Daskreech> !en
[05:00] <matti_> Is this the "right" place to whine about Kubuntu? ;) (My very first time with KDE desktop on my HD)
[05:00] <Daskreech> matti_: yes :)
[05:02] <matti_> No, I don't want to be whiney, but I wonder why the Kubuntu installer is so "hard" to me. (I've been using ubuntu so far, but now the unity made me consider other DE's)
[05:02] <nikon-lappy> i love this better than unity
[05:02] <nikon-lappy> i bet tons of people will show up here now
[05:02] <brandon> Don't like the new Ubuntu?
[05:03] <nikon-lappy> heck no
[05:03] <brandon> There's a simple way to return back to gnome, rather then sticking with the Unity implimentation.
[05:04] <nikon-lappy> i got some issues with sound.  It doesnt work.  It worked ( ok ) but in kubuntu i got nothing.
[05:04] <nikon-lappy> brandon: i tried that.. it was still broke.  had to go back to ubuntu classic no frills to get it to work
[05:04] <nikon-lappy> kubuntu works great
[05:04] <nikon-lappy> save for the sound.
[05:05] <matti_> And with this I mean the Hard Drive partition part. Only "auto- full disk" option, and of course, the manual "hard" way.. And I tried the "old" gnome, but, I .. Oh, nikon-lappy just sayed it..
[05:05] <brandon> Yeah, personally I prefere the Maveric Meerkat, I don't blame you.
[05:06] <Daskreech> matti_: The installer is the same as Ubuntu
[05:06] <Daskreech> what makes it more difficult?
[05:07] <matti_> I made "plenty" free space on my HD, just blank.. And it didn't offer me a chance to install to a free space.. (sry for my poor english :) )
[05:08] <matti_> And I'm dual bootin this with vista.. That is why I didn't use the auto mode..
[05:09] <matti_> But got it on HD, with asking help with my old frien Google. ;)
[05:14] <matti_> And I don't say it doesn't offer it, but it didn't show up for me. (This maybe is a user related problem)
[05:16] <Magnusson> Daskreech>still working on it, but realized i forgot to thank you at the time after i got lost trying to fix it :)
[05:16] <Daskreech> matti_: how did yo uget it working?
[05:16] <Daskreech> Magnusson: You ar welcome :)
[05:17] <preecher> hey Magnusson long time no see
[05:18] <matti_> (If problem at all) And what I mean all this, is that many user with lack of knowledge may be skipping this KDE-version, only for that reason. (I have tried many times Kubuntu and  I haven't got balls to try install it on HD) I manually "prepared" my HD, with help of some site google suggested.
[05:19] <Magnusson> hey preecher, was wondering if you were around. yeah i've been out of town
[05:25] <nikon-lappy> matti_: whats the problem?
[05:28] <matti_> I have no problem, I just "whine" about the installer.. On ubuntu installer it gave option "use blank space on HD" and yesterday, when I installed this, the Kubuntu installer only suggested "full disk" (250 gb) or "manual partitioning". (There were space which weren't formatted in my HD)
[05:36] <ubuntu_user> I'm having problems with my broadcom wireless on 11.04 and the ubuntu website keeps suggesting articles from old distros
[05:37] <matti_> This is "old" version, but exactly the same situation that I had. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=single_boot.jpg
[05:38] <matti_> There were no automated option to install side of Vista
[05:38] <nikon-lappy> are you trying to get rid of vista?
[05:38] <nikon-lappy> or dual boot?
[05:39] <matti_> Dual boot. (i'm CSS addict. ;) )
[05:42] <nikon-lappy> CSS works in linux
[05:42] <nikon-lappy> i think steam has a linux version i may be wrong
[05:46] <matti_> But it doesn't solve the installer "problem" :P I found familiar picture on ubuntu installer.. http://ubuntu.ninetomidnight.com/images/book/install/partition_allwindows.png
[05:47] <matti_> And the option "Guided- use largest continuous free space" is what I'm missing.. ;)
[05:47] <nikon-lappy> hmm
[05:48] <nikon-lappy> what do your drives look like?
[05:48] <nikon-lappy> usually you are going to install kubuntu on the unpartitioned space
[05:51] <matti_> I have installed Kubuntu now, and I did have unpartitioned space on my HD. (Used Live-ubuntu disk to make the free space) And all what I'm whining now, is that the installer isn't really "noob-friendly". (I think)
[05:52] <matti_> So, I don't have problem's (with Kubuntu), but really wanted to "shout" it out.. Sorry all, if I didn't got my point out.
[05:54] <matti_> (or is it "point clear")
[05:55] <matti_> Maybe I'll try, if there is someone wake at our native chat. (it is really early sunday morning here..)
[06:01] <nikon-lappy> matti_: it is actually pretty noob friendly.. and you did what you should have.. googled it
[06:08] <matti_> And that's why I very early in my posts asked if this is right place to whine.. ;) I'm not a troll, atleast it weren't my purpose. I just wanted to complain that I didn't find the installer easy. :)
[06:08] <nikon-lappy> no you are fine.. although if this was a more active channel they would ask you to take it to off topic
[06:09] <nikon-lappy> they love suggestions.. how would you change the process?
[06:09] <Daskreech> matti_: :)
[06:10] <matti_> And I think I'm not the only one. I would like it to have option to install "spare space" or "unpartitioned space", whichever is the right..
[06:11] <matti_> (If there is enough raw sectors on hard drive)
[06:12] <matti_> (My English is so poor, I don't propably find the right words)
[06:13] <Daskreech> matti_: it works well enough
[06:13] <matti_> (And the kubuntu-fi channel is dead, as I thought it to be this early.. So, U have to stand my complains.. :) )
[06:15] <matti_> YEs, that is something I can agree.. Even I got it installed and dual booting with Vista.. But is "well enough" enough, if U R perfectionist? :)
[06:20] <matti_> And the "main" idea of my complaining is that I'm little bitter, that I didn't have enough courage to partition the HD myself earlier. (Maybe even some info screen before the hard drive part of the installer would be nice)
[06:20] <ubuntu_user> hrmf. bcm4312 not supported on a dell.
[06:22] <ubuntu_user> *not explicitly supported .. same pci device as the supported hp and lenovo... so why doesn't it work
[06:24] <LINKSWORD2> ... I'm quite sure that there's nothing to talk about, tonight.
[06:25] <ubuntu_user> heh.. all the real hackers are unplugged
[06:26] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[06:27] <LINKSWORD2> I don't suppose you know how to change the color scheme of the Konsole system terminal?
[06:27] <ubuntu_user> I used to
[06:28] <LINKSWORD2> ... :(
[06:29] <ubuntu_user> I've forgotten though. All this windowing when I'm not earning a living offline got me spoilt.
[06:34] <LINKSWORD2> welcome back, c2tarun
[06:34] <c2tarun> :)
[06:35] <LINKSWORD2> Simple question... Is there a way to change the color scheme of the Konsole system terminal?
[06:35] <LINKSWORD2> If so... How?
[06:36] <c2tarun> well changing is color in konsole is possible, as we have to edit ~/.bashrc file
[06:37] <LINKSWORD2> ... That does not sound easy.
[06:37] <c2tarun> well I heard its not that difficult
[06:39] <c2tarun> LINKSWORD2, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Customize-the-Shell-Prompt-40033.shtml
[06:39] <c2tarun> this may help ^^
[06:41] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm....
[06:48] <LINKSWORD2> c2, the link in that tutorial does not work.
[07:01] <c2tarun> LINKSWORD2, what do you mean by does not work?
[07:03] <LINKSWORD2> At the bottom of the tutorial, there's an http address to the modification files.
[07:08] <LINKSWORD2> c2tarun, try out that tutorial if you wish. Maybe you know more about it than me.
[07:08] <LINKSWORD2> But the link at the far bottom is a dead-end. The file it's supposed to download is not present.
[07:09] <c2tarun> LINKSWORD2, sorry I am not on kubuntu right now.. using ubuntu for a while :)
[07:09] <LINKSWORD2> -_-
[07:10] <LINKSWORD2> In that case, I'm not going to bother with it anymore tonight.
[07:10] <LINKSWORD2> I'm logging off.
[07:11] <ubuntu_user> this is sad ... I'm running a "live" boot on my new (to me) laptop, made all kinds of changes ... and don't have a working casper setup
[07:28] <c2tarun> ubuntu_user, live??
[07:28] <ubuntu_user> yeah
[07:28] <ubuntu_user> pendrive boot
[07:29] <c2tarun> so what's the problem?
[07:29] <ubuntu_user> can't save all my changes cause they're *poof* gone when I reboot
[07:31] <c2tarun> ubuntu_user, well, you can't save changes in live boot
[07:31] <ubuntu_user> you can with a casper setup.. I did before .. just dont have it set up this time
[07:58] <siryuy> hi
[07:58] <siryuy> hola
[07:58] <siryuy> tengo un problema
[07:59] <siryuy> hola a todos
[07:59] <siryuy> hi everyone
[08:50] <Guest36756> how can I join #help channel? my IP got banned and i need assistance
[09:00] <Linkmaster> how do you use 'git'? for example, I have: git clone http://anongit.kde.org/koffice but don't know what to do with it
[09:28] <merc> hello friends..
[09:28] <merc> anyone there
[09:28] <merc> I have a little problem with kubuntu, I need your help.
[09:30] <merc> hey Ash-Fox..
[09:43] <XVampireX> hello
[09:44] <flyHigh_hahaha> Does my kubuntu related to the hard disk corrupted?
[09:44] <XVampireX> can anyone please tell me how to disable touchpad while typing or at all if not possible in kubuntu 11.04 ?
[09:44] <flyHigh_hahaha> *Does my kubuntu freeze related to the hard disk corrupted?
[09:44] <XVampireX> fn+f key doesn't work (the one for the touchpad)
[09:46] <flyHigh_hahaha> i  also done the bios self test and when it reached full hard disk test it  failed..
[09:46] <flyHigh_hahaha> can anyone help me?
[10:07] <paolinux> hi
[10:08] <mfraz74> Wishing I hadn't upgraded to 11.04 at the momen
[10:08] <mfraz74> moment
[10:10] <mfraz74> Firefox 4 keeps forgetting that I have extensions, no plymouth splash screen, odd things with phonon config for starters
[10:13] <mfraz74> Oh and Strigi seems to be indexing the same files every time I reboot
[10:19] <BlaXpirit> Hello everyone!
[10:19] <BlaXpirit> I have a problem here. My mouse's scroller is very advanced, it has 5 actions: scroll up/down, press, move left/right. And guess what, it's broken now.
[10:20] <BlaXpirit> Scroller press does not work any more, but I need to use it very often. Can I remap *move left/right* to *scroller click* (middle mouse button) permanently?
[10:45] <BlaXpirit> Solved: $ xinput set-button-map <device id> 1 2 3 4 5 2 2 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
[11:31] <gribouille> hi
[11:31] <gribouille> I have a problem with X : yesterday, the screen resolution was 1280x1024, and today, it is 1024x768. Of couse, I didn't change the configuration. Does someone know what to do ?
[11:34] <flyHigh_hahaha> Does Kubuntu and windows freeze related to the hard disk failure?
[11:35] <flyHigh_hahaha> i use dual-booting and i have run bios full HD test and it stuck at 16%..
[11:36] <flyHigh_hahaha> i also run badblock in terminal and it show 5 badblock at windows partition..
[11:36] <flyHigh_hahaha> can someone help me please?
[11:40] <Kat_87> gribouille, what is your graphics card?
[11:44] <gribouille> Kat_87, 60:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G84 [Quadro FX 370] (rev a1)
[11:47] <Kat_87> ok
[11:47] <Kat_87> are you using gnome or kde
[11:47] <gribouille> Kat_87, kde
[11:48] <Kat_87> open krandrtray
[11:48] <Kat_87> you should be able to change the resolution from there
[11:48] <Kat_87> if not
[11:49] <Kat_87> open nvidia-settings and change it from there
[11:49] <Kat_87> nvidia-settings works if you are using the propietary blob
[11:50] <gribouille> Kat_87, I run krandrtray, but nothing happens
[11:50] <Kat_87> have you tried changing the resolution?
[11:50] <Kat_87> you should get an icon in the tray
[11:51] <Kat_87> click on it and a window should pop up
[11:51] <Kat_87> you can change screen resolution and rotation
[11:52] <gribouille> Kat_87, the resolution 1280x1024 isn't available
[11:52] <Kat_87> strange
[11:52] <Kat_87> ok what if you type "nvidia" on krunner
[11:53] <Kat_87> do you get the nvidia settings link?
[11:53] <gribouille> Kat_87, yes
[11:53] <Kat_87> open it
[11:53] <gribouille> Kat_87, ok
[11:54] <Kat_87> click on xserver display config
[11:54] <gribouille> Kat_87, ok
[11:54] <Kat_87> and there should be a resolution menu
[11:55] <gribouille> Kat_87, the resolution 1280x1024 isn't available either
[11:55] <gribouille> Kat_87, isn't is possible to configure xorg.conf directly ?
[11:56] <Kat_87> what does /etc/X11/xorg.conf say?
[11:56] <gribouille> Kat_87, it is extremely short (16 lines)
[11:56] <Kat_87> are you using natty?
[11:57] <Kat_87> or maverick
[11:57] <gribouille> Kat_87, no, maverick
[11:58] <Kat_87> ok
[11:58] <Kat_87> can you post what xorg says
[11:59] <gribouille> Kat_87, where ?
[11:59] <Kat_87> here or you could pm
[11:59] <gribouille> Section "Screen"
[11:59] <gribouille>         Identifier      "Default Screen"
[11:59] <gribouille>         DefaultDepth    24
[11:59] <gribouille> EndSection
[11:59] <gribouille> Section "Module"
[11:59] <gribouille>         Load    "glx"
[11:59] <FloodBotK1> gribouille: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:00] <Kat_87> mh
[12:00] <Kat_87> ok maybe postin here wasn't such a good idea
[12:01] <gribouille>         Identifier      "Default Screen"
[12:01] <gribouille>         DefaultDepth    24
[12:01] <gribouille> EndSection
[12:01] <gribouille> Section "Module"
[12:01] <gribouille>         Load    "glx"
[12:01] <FloodBotK1> gribouille: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:01] <gribouille> EndSection
[12:05] <gribouille> Kat_87, I have pasted the whole contents of the file
[12:06] <Kat_87> is that it?
[12:06] <Kat_87> then maybe that is the problem
[12:06] <Kat_87> so you don't get any mention of nvidia on the config file
[12:06] <Kat_87> ok
[12:08] <Kat_87> my config says
[12:08] <Kat_87> Section "Device"
[12:09] <Kat_87>         Identifier    "Default Device"
[12:09] <Kat_87>       Driver "nvidia"
[12:09] <Kat_87>          Option "NoLogo"      "True"
[12:09] <Kat_87> EndSection
[12:10] <gribouille> Kat_87, isn't it possible to generate a default configuration file automatically ?
[12:10] <Kat_87> do you have any backups on the X11 folder?
[12:11] <gribouille> Kat_87, I have xorg.conf           xorg.conf.failsafe  xorg.conf.new
[12:11] <Kat_87> what about them
[12:11] <Kat_87> what do they say?
[12:11] <gribouille> Kat_87, I tried to use xorg.conf.new, but it didn't work
[12:12] <gribouille> Kat_87, I'm sure there is a way to generate the config file, but I don't know how
[12:12] <Kat_87> you could try with system-config-display
[12:12] <Kat_87> make sure you backup your xorg.conf file first
[12:13] <gribouille> Kat_87, that's done
[12:13] <gopalK> Hi...all i'm facing a problem in qt packages that are provided in 11.04
[12:13] <Kat_87> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_xorg.conf
[12:13] <Kat_87> does that help?
[12:13] <gribouille> Kat_87, let me see
[12:14] <gopalK> I upgraded my qt ubuntu package today and now i'm getting 'Qt compiled without support for -fvisibility=hidden' message while running cmake for calligra... http://paste.kde.org/78631/ . Is it the problem with qt package of ubuntu or am I missing something?
[12:15] <gopalK> This error comes not only for calligra but basically any kde app that I try to compile from source
[12:18] <realnamed> bac
[12:19] <Kat_87> gribouille: you could also try deleting xorg.conf and rebooting
[12:19] <Kat_87> that should generate a default one
[12:20] <gribouille> Kat_87, will the default one be better than the one I pasted ?
[12:21] <Kat_87> the one you pasted was incomplete
[12:21] <Kat_87> it lacked the section where the driver is specified
[12:21] <Kat_87> I'm surprised you get x to start at all
[12:21] <Kat_87> what version of x are you using by the way
[12:22] <Kat_87> it's not the 1.10
[12:23] <Kat_87> maverick should have 1.9.0
[12:24] <Kat_87> so yeah try with the default one
[12:24] <Kat_87> if it's not better just restore the backup
[12:27] <gribouille> I run dexconf an its exit code is 10, but I get no error message
[12:27] <Kat_87> does xorg.conf looks fine?
[12:28] <gribouille> Kat_87, it isn't modified
[12:28] <Kat_87> just delete it
[12:28] <Kat_87> maybe it will change it
[12:28] <ryrych> is it a known bug that watching flash videos (YouTube in my example) casues X crash or what happened me a while ago: restart of system?
[12:28] <Kat_87> or delete and reboot
[12:29] <ryrych> no matter what browser I am using
[12:29] <Kat_87> ryrych, is hardware acceleration enabled in flash?
[12:29] <gribouille> Kat_87, I can't reboot right now
[12:29] <Kat_87> restart x?
[12:30] <gribouille> Kat_87, neither
[12:30] <ryrych> Kat_87: do you enable it via rmb?
[12:31] <Kat_87> ryrych:  right click on the flash video, settings, and there should be a checkbox
[12:31] <ryrych> Kat_87: yup, it was enabled
[12:31] <ryrych> I switched it off
[12:31] <Kat_87> any better?
[12:32] <ryrych> it happens unexpectedly
[12:32] <ryrych> let me see
[12:32] <Kat_87> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=421161
[12:32] <Kat_87> gribouille:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=421161
[12:33] <Kat_87> see if that is of any help
[12:34] <gribouille> Kat_87, ok, I'll see
[12:40] <russia_ak47> hhhhhhhhhh
[12:43] <Kat_87> ryrych: hardware acceleration is usually the problem
[12:43] <Kat_87> but if that's not it you can try another flash version
[12:44] <Kat_87> anyway I gotta go now, cu later
[12:55] <ryrych> Kat_87: X again exited abrupty
[12:55] <ryrych> I saw one of console – couldn't change it and the sound from YT movie was looped
[12:56] <ryrych> I have ksystemlog in front of me – which information should I take a look at?
[13:04] <GeertJohan> Hi
[13:04] <GeertJohan> I'm having a problem with borders in KDE
[13:04] <GeertJohan> but I dont know if its a Kubuntu, KDE or X11 problem..
[13:04] <GeertJohan> borders of windows go missing
[13:05] <GeertJohan> and graphics do wierd..
[13:06] <GeertJohan> everyting keeps running though.. no crashes.. its just that it looks wierd... reboot fixes the problem, but It'll come back.. sometimes 30 secs after boot... sometimes 30 minutes or even 2 hours...
[13:06] <GeertJohan> I cant find a pattern in actions I do and the event happening..
[13:06] <GeertJohan> any thoughts?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Wednesday, June 8, 2011: KDE 4.7 Beta 2 Release  The beta becomes available for general consumption.
[13:27] <ryrych> anyone experiences abrupt X crashes watching YT videos? I disabled hw accelleration but it didn't help
[13:27] <ryrych> which log should I look up?
[13:28] <ryrych> it crashes unexpectedly
[13:33] <bigbrovar> ryrych: I do get that when am using skype or vlc
[13:33] <bigbrovar> reported a bug about it and never heard from it again
[13:34] <bigbrovar> its totally random and from my investigation seems to be a kernel 2.6.38 bug with intel cards
[13:36] <ryrych> bigbrovar: hi, I am using rather older radeon xpress 200; I don't use skype; it happened to me only with flash content; I thought it is Chromium issue so I switched to Firefox but here it is the same :(
[13:36] <ryrych> bigbrovar: is this crash logged?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> ryrych, you're lucky to have usable graphics at all with x200 , mine was absolutely unusable  ...slow cursor , slow loading of anything graphical
[13:41] <ryrych> BluesKaj: indeed in 11.04 it is more usable than in 10.10
[13:42] <ryrych> in 10.10 I used x from xorg-edgers
[13:42] <BluesKaj> I had to install an nvidia pci card
[13:43] <ryrych> so, I would like to fill in a bug report but I don’t know what log to look up to :(
[13:43] <ryrych> there's nothing in kdm.log
[13:43] <ryrych> xorg.0.log shows only bits from loading
[13:44] <BluesKaj> ryrych, try /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:45] <BluesKaj> oh sry , din'y notice your last post
[13:47] <BluesKaj> ryrych, frankly the support for ati integrated graphics is really pretty poor IMO, by ati and linux
[13:48] <ogzy> i installed kubuntu 10.04 with LVM and crypto support, after the installation and upgrades, i was not able to open User Manager, any idea about the problem?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> user manager ?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> file manager -dolphin ?, ogzy
[13:53] <ogzy> BluesKaj: user management at the system settings
[13:54] <ogzy> BluesKaj: i am trying to remember the error message but it was saying something about a py file and giving error
[13:55] <BluesKaj> ogzy, make sure you have the latest python installed
[13:57] <ogzy> BluesKaj: i had applied upgrades and security fixes  from the kpackagekit
[13:58] <paolinux> re
[13:59] <BluesKaj> ogzy, right , but I would still run sudo apt-get install python
[14:00] <c2tarun> which ppa contains pkg-kde-tools latest version for natty?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> kpackagekit is not as reliable as ppl think ...using apt is best IMO..I know it uses apt too but guis in general can dreak stuff
[14:01] <BluesKaj> paolinux, re ?
[14:03] <ogzy> BluesKaj: ok i will try it
[14:03] <ogzy> BluesKaj: at the same machine i have a problem with cups interface that is localhost:631, asking to the channel
[14:03] <BluesKaj> c2tarun, no ppa , it's in the repos
[14:04] <paolinux> BluesKaj: i'm REntered in this chat
[14:04] <paolinux> :)
[14:06] <BluesKaj> we don't use shortforms unless they're universal ...I know the 're ' used to mean 'rehi' in other irc chats but those don't apply here due to the international nature of this chat
[14:11] <ogzy> at my kubuntu 10.04 installation on LVM and crypted disk, i have problem on progressing cups interface, i choose AppSocket/HP JetDirect , enter socket://ipnumber:9100, the next screen asks to give printer name and description after entering this, i see again the IP enterance screen, it never ends, i don't know how to debug and investigate where the problem occurs?
[14:13] <ogzy> so mainly driver selection never comes at the cups web interface, any idea or bug report related with it on 10.04 kubuntu?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> ogzy, open the system settings /printer configuration / network printer
[14:22] <ashwin> kdelibs5-dev : Depends: libsoprano-dev (>= 2.5.63+dfsg.1) but it is not going to be installed
[14:23] <ashwin> how can i install kdelibs5-dev ?
[14:24] <ogzy> BluesKaj: printer adding is working if i open it from system setting / printer configuration but the web interface does not bring the driver selection
[14:29] <BluesKaj> it doesn't use a web interface for the driver , you choose the driver with the  configuration settings by clicking next and choosing your printer in the manufacturers list
[14:31] <BluesKaj> ogzy, read above ^
[14:31] <BluesKaj> ashwin, try to install libsoprano-dev
[14:32] <BluesKaj> then kdelibs5-dev
[14:32] <ashwin> libsoprano-dev : Depends: libsoprano4 (= 2.5.63+dfsg.1-0ubuntu1) but 2.6.0+dfsg.1-3 is to be installed
[14:34] <ogzy> BluesKaj: ok that screen comes if you follow the Add Printer at localhost:631, which is not coming
[14:35] <BluesKaj> ok don
[14:36] <BluesKaj> don't add printer @ local host ...why are you using a  browser for this ...it's nor necessary
[14:37] <ogzy> BluesKaj: i know it is not necessary, but i want to reach my printserver from web interface not from gui
[14:40] <BluesKaj> !cups | ogzy
[14:42] <Been> I've just picked up a netbook (Samsung NF110) and I'm having issues with partitioning my drive so that I can dual-boot between Windows 7 and Linux
[14:43] <Been> Basically there seems to already be 3 primary partitions, The windows partition, a boot partition and a recovery partition.
[14:43] <Been> And when I try to alter the partition table I can only add another Primary Partition (which would have to be /boot, leaving me with no other partitions) or a logical partion
[14:44] <Been> If I create a logical partition then I can still create additional ones, but I can no longer specify if they're primary or logical.
[14:44] <Been> Anyone got any ideas what I can do to fix this?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> Been,  whatapp are you using to partition?
[15:02] <Been> It's the default one as part of the install on the Kubuntu live CD.  I don't know the name I'm afraid.
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Been, so no freespace is available to be unallocated then ready for ext4 formatting ?
[15:09] <Been> Oh there's plenty of free space.  I have 160Gb of free space, but it only allows me to make one primary partition (due to there already being 3 on the drive, and not being able to go over 4), then no further partitions of any type
[15:10] <Been> OR I can install 1 logical partition of any size (such as swap) then I create further ones of no specified type (I'm guessing logical again though)
[15:10] <Been> Since I need at least 1 primary partition for /boot, I'm sure how to get around this
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Been, not to worry , logival partitions work fine , just resize you ntfs to whatever you think it wll need
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Been, as for the boot partition, grub will install on the correct part of the drive and list windows in the boot menu
[15:13] <Been> That's another concern actually.  It says there's a 100mb boot partition already.  I imagine if GRUB was installed it could chain them together to boot windows no problem.  But it still needs to be installed on the first few blocks of the hard drive yes?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Been, when the install is alkmost finished , a dailog will give you choice where to put grub and beinga dual boot it will recognize this and thje default will be the correct one.
[15:14] <BluesKaj> scuse my spelling
[15:14] <Been> Ah, so that option comes later then?  Thanks :)
[15:16] <BluesKaj> the small partition 200mb or so is the windows boot recovery , the mbr for windows will be chainloaded by grub so when you choosw windows in the menu then a normal windows boot will take place
[15:17] <Been> kk.  I'll give it a shot later then.  Just realised I need to some shopping and the shops shut in 40 minutes
[15:19] <BluesKaj> Been, gparted live cd is a great way partition your drives ..I prefer it to the kubuntu livecd partitioner
[15:20] <Been> I'll give that a shot then.  Won't hurt to take care of that first.
[15:21] <Been> I'm off to shop and partition some things then.  Laters
[15:21] <BluesKaj> right , later
[15:38] <maiqiang> hi!  i am new to kubuntu, although i've used ubuntu for a few years.  i've recently installed 11.04.  i'm having a problem with skype.  i use a webcam with a mic.  the webcam is working with no problem, but not so the mic.  any suggestions?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, do you have pulseaudio installed ? If so , it could be causing the problem depending on your soundcard . Check alsmixer in the terminal first to make sure no ctrls are muted and turn up all relavent ones.
[15:55] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: Thanks for the suggestions. Yes pulseaudio seems to be there by default.  Should I remove it?  If so, how? Also, how do I check alsmixer in the terminal? (My ignorance is showing)
[15:56] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, type alsamixer in the terminal
[15:57] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: Easy enough.  I'll do so now
[16:02] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, you can remove pulseaudio and reset your audio preferences in system settings multimedia /phonon ..test the different soundcard settings available  and try skype settings to coincide with the phonon choices.
[16:02] <maiqiang> BluesKay: I've made sure alsamixer settings are okay and now I'll try skype again
[16:03] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, if removing pulseaudio doesn't help ., just reinstall it
[16:06] <aaronth> Howdy
[16:08] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: No success yet.  I'm trying various audio settings now to see if anything works
[16:08] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, remove pulseaudio for now..it can be reinstalled if necessary
[16:15] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: Still nothing.  I don't see how to remove pulseaudio
[16:16] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, in the terminal , sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[16:16] <BluesKaj> !apt | maiqiang
[16:19] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: Removing it now
[16:24] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: just got a notice that kde detected that one or more internal sound devices were removed with the question do i want kde to permantly forget about these devices. sounds ominous
[16:25] <BluesKaj> maiqiang,  choose manage devices , don't let it remove anything
[16:27] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, you can reset your audio preferences in system settings multimedia /phonon ..test the different soundcard settings available  and try skype settings to coincide with the phonon choices.
[16:29] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: I'm in phonon now but i don't see how to rest the preferences.  some of the devices in audio capture>communication are greyed-out and i can't select them.  defaults seems to do nothing
[16:33] <aaronth> Kubuntu 11.04 seems great
[16:33] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, check acessability. use the "test" options with that
[16:34] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: thanks for all your suggestions.  the test button is greyed-out in both communication and accessibility
[16:35] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, move the optional soundcard setting with the prefer/defer options and test those
[16:36] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: i just tried that but still can't test
[16:37] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, also try in the terminal,  speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -t wav
[16:38] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: just did that and the speakers are fine
[16:39] <BluesKaj> good
[16:40] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, what driver is listed at the top right corner in alsamixer?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> err top left corner
[16:40] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: what if i close multimedia>phonon?  would that reset everything to the original configuration and i could then start again?
[16:41] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: Card: HDA NVidia
[16:42] <BluesKaj> chip?
[16:42] <maiqiang> Realtek AlC662 rev1
[16:45] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, ok , I guess you need to reinstall pulseaudio and try again
[16:45] <maiqiang> will do
[16:48] <maiqiang> reinstalled
[16:49] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: do you think it is safe to close phonon and then reopen it? will i lose any of the devices it though it should remove?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, you can safely close phonon..you won't lose anything
[16:51] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: okay, thanks
[16:51] <BluesKaj> then open it and run the test on the default
[16:52] <BluesKaj> you may need to check skype audio settings to make sure it's linking to the phonon setting
[16:53] <mfraz74> In Kubuntu 10.10, if I try to view a file that doesn't exist in Konqueror I get an error saying "Unsupported Protocol error"
[16:54] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: okay, i closed it telling it to discard changes. reopened it and several of the devices are still greyed-out and so it the test button. skype's sound devices only gives me the option of PulseAudio server (local)
[16:54] <BluesKaj> mfraz74, try dolphin
[16:54] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: I don't like dolphin as I can't split the window top/botto
[16:55] <mfraz74> top/bottm
[16:56] <mfraz74> the protocol error is not supported by the KDE programs currently installed on this computer
[16:56]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[16:58] <mfraz74> I see Phonon configuration is messed up in 11.04 too
[17:00] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, try the music option in /device prefernce in phonon to test
[17:00] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: could you try going into speaker setup, going back to overview and then look at speaker setup again?
[17:01] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: no problem with that. sounds fine
[17:02] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, ok video , communication, games ..are they ok ?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> if they work then skype should be ok as well
[17:03] <mfraz74> maiqiang: have you got pulseaudio volume control installed?
[17:03] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: all healthy
[17:03] <BluesKaj> mfraz74, pls lets wait for a reply
[17:04] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: installing pavcontrol is the only way I've found of getting skype working with kubuntu
[17:05] <BluesKaj> ok maiqiang , check your skype settings now ...the pulseaudio soundserver should work if you set the ctrls in the pulseaudio settings pavcontrol in the kmenu
[17:06] <BluesKaj> kmenu apps/multimedia
[17:07] <BluesKaj> I don't need pulseausio , I use skype static version which doesn't need pulse audio
[17:07] <maiqiang> i don't see pavcontrol or pulseaudio settings
[17:07] <BluesKaj> I've seldom had any use for PA , ever
[17:07] <mfraz74> pulse audio volume control
[17:08] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, kmenu apps/settings perhaps
[17:10] <BluesKaj> sometimes it makes no sense where these options end up in the kmenu, you may nneed to explore to find it , maiqiang
[17:11] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: can't seem to find it anywhere
[17:12] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, alt+f2 , pavcontrol
[17:14] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: finds nothing
[17:14] <ricky1966> hi everybody, where i can find a tutorial for compiling module with 11.04 ?
[17:15] <BluesKaj> install build essential , ricky1966
[17:16] <ricky1966> ok, but i've this message
[17:16] <ricky1966> Missing files that required to build driver: /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic/source/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-common.h dvb-usb/dvb-usb.h dvb-usb/dvb-usb-ids.h dvb-core/dvb_frontend.h dvb-core/dvbdev.h dvb-core/dmxdev.h dvb-core/dvb_demux.h dvb-core/dvb_net.h dvb-core/demux.h dvb-core/dvb_ringbuffer.h frontends/dvb-pll.h
[17:16] <ricky1966> Try to get kernel source closest to 2.6.38-8-generic from www.kernel.org and then copy to /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic/source/drivers/media/dvb
[17:16] <BluesKaj> maiqiang, kmenu/apps/system ?
[17:16] <FloodBotK1> ricky1966: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:16] <ricky1966> ops osrry
[17:17] <ricky1966> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/619255/
[17:17] <maiqiang> BluesKaj: nope, nothing there either
[17:18] <mfraz74> maiqiang: you may have to install it then
[17:19] <maiqiang> mfraz74: install from kpackagekit? what is it called?
[17:19] <BluesKaj> ricky1966,  you have a video capture card that needs a new driver from what I can see , look around for the driver required on 11.04
[17:19] <mfraz74> pavcontrol
[17:20] <DarthFrog> ricky1966:  try using the auto-apt tool to build your driver.  "auto-apt run ./configure" instead of just "./configure".  You'll have to install auto-apt first "sudo install auto-apt" and build its databases as well: auto-apt update && auto-apt updatedb && auto-apt update-local.  Then it will install the needed missing files for you.
[17:21] <BluesKaj> ricky1966, or disconnect the card temporarily , and proceed with your upgrade then reconnect the card and reboot
[17:23] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog,  interesting ..never used auto-apt
[17:23] <ricky1966> i try to compile a usb tv card
[17:23] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowto
[17:24] <ricky1966> with 10.10 i only downloaded the driver, compile with make and installed
[17:25] <mfraz74> what driver?
[17:25] <DarthFrog> ricky1966:  Obviously with 10.10 you had the necessary pre-requisites already installed.
[17:25] <maiqiang> mfraz74: okay, i installed pulseaudio volume control, but i still can't find it
[17:25] <ricky1966> maybe
[17:25] <mfraz74> maiqiang: it should be in the multimedia menu
[17:26] <maiqiang> mfraz74: i take that back, i just found it
[17:26] <ricky1966> but i remember i've downloaded the driver and installed build-essential and after make and make install
[17:29] <maiqiang> mfraz74: thanks for your help here.  input devices shows two devices: 'internal audio analog stereo' and 'c8 webcam analog mono.'  volume is up on both of them
[17:30] <BluesKaj> ricky1966, check out v4l and v4l2
[17:30] <ricky1966> how ?
[17:30] <BluesKaj> packamanager
[17:30] <BluesKaj> ge
[17:31] <maiqiang> still not working in skype however
[17:32] <mfraz74> what about in the recording tab?
[17:32] <maiqiang> volume up there too
[17:33] <mfraz74> maiqiang: for skype?
[17:33] <maiqiang> wait, i take that back: recording has the message no application is currently recording audio
[17:34] <przemek__> can someone tell me how to get normal desktop in latest kubuntu?
[17:34] <przemek__> hi guys btw :)
[17:34] <mfraz74> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:35] <mfraz74> oops, sorry wrong question
[17:35] <mfraz74> przemek__: what desktop have you got at the moment>
[17:35] <mfraz74> ?
[17:36] <przemek__> i have this search and launch default panel running with icons and application bar on top
[17:36] <mfraz74> that would be the netbook interface, do you have a system settings icon anywhere?
[17:37] <przemek__> wait a sec
[17:38] <przemek__> got it
[17:38] <mfraz74> when you find it you need to go into workspace behaviour > workspace > workspace type - desktop
[17:38] <ricky1966> missing linux-source packeges
[17:40] <przemek__> should work fine. thanx
[17:51] <Bobbix> Hi
[17:51] <Bobbix> Anyone know how to connect with wifi AP on Kubuntu 10.04 ???
[17:51] <Bobbix> A see "Unavaliable" on the network icon, What means???
[17:54] <derek_> hey my software updates and installer are kinda messed up...
[17:55] <derek_> I can't update or install any new software.
[17:55] <Bobbix> I've KD3 4.4.5 and KUBUNTU KDE NETWORK "UNAVAILABLE" WORKAROUNDi can't connect to my wireless ZP
[17:55] <Bobbix> zp = ap
[17:55] <Bobbix> Any idea ???
[18:10] <BluesKaj> Bobbix, sudo lspci -k , pastebin the out put
[18:16] <Bobbix> http://pastebin.com/KaRf443Q
[18:19] <kavurt> my computer cannot see memory stick. can i do something about it?
[18:24] <BluesKaj> Bobbix, hang on a minute ..I may have a fix for that
[18:32] <BluesKaj> Bobbix, go to www.kernel.org and look for the sru kernel update , there's a ppa to install and the update and upgrade
[18:33] <BluesKaj> taking a break < BBL
[18:42] <uneivi> hey, hi everybody!
[18:45] <uneivi> does somebody know, why the blur effect shadow effect does not work with blur effect?
[18:47] <derek_> What is the output of "date -u +%W$(uname)|sha256sum|sed 's/\W//g'"?
[18:47] <uneivi> ...
[18:48] <derek_> bear with me. thanks.
[18:48] <uneivi> ...
[18:49] <derek_> Ok... does anybody know?
[18:55] <Bobbix> KDE and network manager are very horrible!
[18:56] <Magnusson> Daskreech>hah hey just got on to look for you. fixed my problem yesterday
[18:59]  * Daskreech waves at Magnusson
[18:59] <Magnusson> Daskreech>reinstalling my nvidia driver fixed it all
[19:00] <Magnusson> does anyone know if there's a way you can make dolphin show you folder sizes when you hover over them?
[19:07] <EagleScreen> hello
[19:07] <Bobbix> KDE + NetworkManager = Garbage !
[19:08] <EagleScreen> Bobbix: wicd-kde is a good alternative
[19:09] <Bobbix> yes but i need to connect with a umts usb modem and  i've succefull configured under kdenetworkmanager
[19:10] <Bobbix> My question... i'm th only one in the world with all this problems with wireless using kde network manager ???
[19:10] <EagleScreen> I'd like to encrypt my home folder with ecryptfs-utils
[19:11] <EagleScreen> i have run ecryptfs-setup-private, and it created a /home/user/Private folder which is encrypted
[19:11] <Bobbix> how i can read the system logs here?!
[19:11] <Daskreech> Magnusson: nice :)
[19:12] <Daskreech> Magnusson: Umm Tooltip?
[19:12] <Daskreech> Not sure That's not something that's static or quicl
[19:13] <Daskreech> if you hover over /home or /var for example that's nearly all the data on the computer
[19:13] <ubuntu_user> Bobbix: terminal and look in /var/log?
[19:13] <Daskreech> Bobbix: That will be more robust in KDE 4.7
[19:14] <Bobbix> i use the normal system upgrades.. but kde... it's less stable (more less stable) than gnome!
[19:14] <Magnusson> Daskreech>hmm? i mean as it stands now whenever i hover over a folder all i get is that it's 4.0kb. i'd like to know how much the total folder size is including all subdirectories, etc
[19:14] <Daskreech> Magnusson: the folder is 4KB
[19:14] <Daskreech> i.e. the file that describes the folder is 4Kb
[19:15] <Bobbix> i go now.. i'm very nervous for this... i want to experiment kde for a lot.. but for working nothing it's better than gnome!
[19:15] <Bobbix> Hi to all and thanks for help!
[19:15] <Daskreech> the size of things inside the folder is variable and takes a long time to calculate
[19:17] <Daskreech>  it could be done as non blocking so you could get the otehr information instantly and wait for that but honestly Alt+Enter is a faster way to check multiple directories or look at dolphin in Filesize mode
[19:20] <Daskreech> Magnusson: install filelight
[19:20] <EagleScreen> so, if i want to ecrypt all my home folder, as like as the installer does, how must I proceed?
[19:21] <Daskreech> !encrypt
[19:21] <Magnusson> Daskreech>hmm yeah i knew the folder itself was 4 kb, but i'll look into filelight :) tyu
[19:24] <Daskreech> Magnusson: as I recall it hqs a dolphin view
[19:41] <LINKSWORD2> Greetings, all.
[19:41]  * genii-around slides LINKSWORD2 a coffee
[19:41] <xboxowns> Yo yo
[19:41] <xboxowns> What is up, yo?
[19:42] <LINKSWORD2> ... Wrong time of day for a coffee, mate.
[19:42] <xboxowns> Yeah, that is true. * rubs the back of his head *
[19:42] <LINKSWORD2> xboxowns: What's up?
[19:42] <genii-around> LINKSWORD2: Ah, then a beverage of your choice, certainly.
[19:42] <LINKSWORD2> Mtn. Dew. :)
[19:42] <xboxowns> Not much, not much. I love this game called Allen Wake. Literally the best game I have ever played.
[19:42] <xboxowns> aaaaaah
[19:43] <xboxowns> It is like a movie but at least with an awesome story and effect
[19:43] <LINKSWORD2> Do you live a Dew life? :)
[19:43] <xboxowns> What is a Dew life?
[19:43] <LINKSWORD2> Drink Dew, play games, drink more Dew. :P
[19:43] <xboxowns>  No, just game life :d
[19:44] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[19:44] <xboxowns> Play game, but skip drinking.
[19:44] <xboxowns> Dude!! GAMES are worse than drugs man, they are that addicting
[19:44] <xboxowns> no wonder the gaming industry make more money than movies
[19:44] <xboxowns> it is worth it
[19:44] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[19:44] <LINKSWORD2> Games CAN be addicting, but only if you let yourself get drawn in.
[19:44] <jmichaelx> often when i click on a window to bring it to the foreground, instead the pointer turns into the cross-shaped symbol, and when i move the mouse the window is dragged around. does anyone know how make it stop this?
[19:45] <xboxowns> I LET my self get drawn in
[19:45] <xboxowns> and happily willingly at that
[19:45] <LINKSWORD2> jmichaelx: Your mouse is turning into the Move cursor, and therefore moving the window.
[19:46] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: i understand that, i want to make it quit doing that
[19:46] <xboxowns> esc?
[19:46] <LINKSWORD2> I would suggest that if you use a wireless mouse / keyboard, check the batteries, first of all.
[19:46] <LINKSWORD2> Low batteries can make them very uncooperative.
[19:46] <Daskreech> hi LINKSWORD2
[19:47]  * LINKSWORD2 pokes Daskreech with a sharp stick.
[19:47] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: that isn't the issue. i have kubuntu on 3 machines, plus my PC at work... the behavior is the same on all of them
[19:47] <LINKSWORD2> Hm....
[19:48] <xboxowns> This I gotta read * grabs popcorn and awaits the next respond with great anticipation *
[19:48] <LINKSWORD2> It is probably the click sensitivity, then. Hang on a moment while I find the appropriate settings.
[19:48] <xboxowns> * munches *
[19:49] <LINKSWORD2> jmichaelx: Go into your System Settings -> Input Devices -> Mouse
[19:50] <jmichaelx> ok
[19:50] <LINKSWORD2> You can make adjustments there to your mouse's sensitivity.
[19:51] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: i think what i am getting at doesn't have much to do with sensitivity. i don't want it to ever switch to 'move window mode', unless maybe i am continuing to hold down the left mouse button
[19:52] <xboxowns> Wait wait, is your objection that when you move the mouse all of a sudden your entire windows shrink in size and you get to pick which window to view while the others in background?
[19:52] <jmichaelx> xboxowns: no.
[19:52] <LINKSWORD2> That falls under the Drag Start Time, if I remember correctly. Its default value is 500ms.
[19:52] <LINKSWORD2> I might adjust it to about 800, but that's my preference.
[19:52] <xboxowns> Ooh ooops..nevermind then, sorry.
[19:53] <xboxowns> Sometimes when I move the mouse all the open windows shrink in size and placed in different location, like a tiny thumb image or tiny painting with frames until I pick which window I want to view it enlarge to normal size and the rest of the window is hidden from view
[19:54] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: ok, that might help.... i'm not sure i want any drag start time. KDE did not used to have this behavior, and i would love to shut it off or make it go away
[19:54] <xboxowns> is it...visually appealing jmichaelx?
[19:54] <jmichaelx> visually appealing?
[19:54] <xboxowns> yeah, looks pretty?
[19:54] <jmichaelx> is what visially appealing?
[19:55]  * LINKSWORD2 slaps xboxowns with his own bag of popcorn
[19:55] <xboxowns> ouch!!
[19:55] <xboxowns> * rubs my head *
[19:55] <jmichaelx> visually*
[19:55] <LINKSWORD2> lol ignore him. He just needed a good slap. :P
[19:55] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: honestly, this is just about a minor annoyance. violence is not necessary (yet)
[19:56] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: do you use chromium/chrome?
[19:56] <LINKSWORD2> Yes, I have Chrome on my system.
[19:57] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: ok, click on the bar at the top (not the KDE titlebar, if you have that enabled)
[19:57] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: it will ALWAYS switch to move mode, and i HATE this
[19:57] <LINKSWORD2> Just a moment. I don't have Chrome open.
[19:58] <LINKSWORD2> OK. You're talking about the tabs bar?
[19:58] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: hmm.... ok, it is inconsistent. sometimes it stays in move mode, even when the mouse button is released, sometimes not
[19:59] <LINKSWORD2> I cannot be certain what's going on, but I still think it has to do with the amount of time before the mouse initiates its drag mode...
[20:00] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: i do not know how to explain this, but KDE still has some freaking annoying bugs
[20:01] <xboxowns> ok
[20:01] <xboxowns> I have a verrrrry funny single comic strip here
[20:01] <xboxowns> who wants to see it
[20:01] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: i don't think it does. look, if i konversation does not have focus, and i click on it in a gray area to bring it to focus, it usually switches to this drag mode, and stays in that mode even if i release the mouse button. i never ever ever want it to move things when the mouse button is released
[20:01] <xboxowns> it reaaally is funny
[20:02] <LINKSWORD2> I've done a lot of tweaking with KDE right after the initial install, to maximize how KDE performs for me, and minimize the bugs I have to deal with.
[20:02] <LINKSWORD2> I don't think I can see the same results as you, jmichaelx
[20:02]  * LINKSWORD2 ignores xboxowns
[20:02] <xboxowns> You know what...you can really resolve this by doing teamviewer
[20:02] <xboxowns> simply put...see by your own eyes what he is talking about
[20:03] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: that is strange, since it behave this way for my across 4 machines (all but one with nvidia graphics, if that has any bearing)
[20:03] <LINKSWORD2> ... Teamviewer?
[20:03] <xboxowns> sure
[20:03] <jmichaelx> for me*
[20:03] <xboxowns> it is a free program
[20:03] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm...
[20:03] <xboxowns> allows you to access his desktop as if you are behind it yourself and see what he is complaining about
[20:03] <xboxowns> perhaps even resolve it there and then
[20:03] <OerHeks> Teamviewer runs trough their servers, no thanx
[20:03] <xboxowns> everything runs through someone elses server
[20:04] <LINKSWORD2> Well, my Kubuntu PC is a very old Compaq with on-board VGA. Just something I put together to experiment, and by no means, a top-end system.
[20:05] <jmichaelx> eh, most of what i have is not top-end, either
[20:05] <LINKSWORD2> We get a lot of people here asking about an NVidia graphics issue, but I'm not sure if that applies in your case.
[20:06] <LINKSWORD2> ... And maybe saying "a lot" is not true. But it is one we see every so often.
[20:07] <LINKSWORD2> jmichaelx: Do you mind if I open a direct, one-to-one chat?
[20:07] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: it is a fair bit.... KDE is not playing nicely with a lot of nvidia and intel adapters
[20:07] <OerHeks> to get the videocard details, terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[20:08] <xboxowns> Out of curiosity how old is KDE?
[20:08] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: you can, but you do not need to, ncessarily. i was just wondering whether or not someone might know off-hand how to fix this
[20:08] <LINKSWORD2> I'm not very well-versed in commands or the general interface. I know enough to get around and that's about it.
[20:08] <LINKSWORD2> xboxowns: Google it. :P
[20:10] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: what i am dealing with appears to possibly be a bug. one reason i say that is because the behavior is not consistent... it does not always do what i am describing
[20:10] <LINKSWORD2> Well, jmichaelx, I've given you the best that I can come up with. Perhaps adjusting the drag mode threshold above 500ms will help solve the issue.
[20:11] <LINKSWORD2> I'm sorry to have to cut things short, but I need to leave. I lost track of time.
[20:11] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: again, the issue is not in timing, it is in movingwindows around even when the mouse button has been released
[20:13] <LINKSWORD2> That's the only thing I can figure it to be. If it's not that, I'm out of suggestions.
[20:14] <LINKSWORD2> I'm sorry, but I must leave.
[20:21] <Daskreech> genii-around: know anything about mysql restoration?
[20:36] <cousin_mario> hello
[20:36] <cousin_mario> how do I enable/disable upstart services?
[20:41] <Daskreech> cousin_mario: you mean permanently?
[20:42] <BluesKaj> cousin_mario, in system settings/startup and shutdown/service manager
[20:48] <zorael> Does ubiquity keep logs someplace?
[20:49] <zorael> Found them, nevermind!
[21:02] <cousin_mario> Daskreech: yes
[21:02] <cousin_mario> BluesKaj: unfortunately I can't find system services in there
[21:04] <BluesKaj> cousin_mario, kmenu /apps/ settings/system settings
[21:05] <EagleScreen> i have encrypted my home with ecryptfs-migrate-home, it genergated a random passprhase, and it didn't show it to me, therefore, I have now my home encrypted ad I don't know my passphrase, but i am loged in and i have now acess to all my data
[21:06] <cousin_mario> BluesKaj: I mean I can't find system services in "startup/shutdown" within the system settings window
[21:08] <BluesKaj> cousin_mario, which kubuntu version are you on ?
[21:08] <cousin_mario> BluesKaj: 11.04
[21:08] <BluesKaj> kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[21:08] <cousin_mario> kubuntu
[21:09] <Daskreech> zorael: where are they ?
[21:09] <Daskreech>  in the /var/logs ?
[21:09] <zorael> Daskreech: /var/log/installer, /var/log/partman
[21:10] <BluesKaj> cousin_mario,  alt+f2 , systemsettings , right near the bottom,  startup and shudown
[21:12] <cousin_mario> BluesKaj: and that brings me to the same place I was in
[21:12] <cousin_mario> BluesKaj: can't find ssh listed anywhere
[21:13] <Daskreech> cousin_mario: try man service
[21:13] <BluesKaj> ssh isn't there
[21:14] <cousin_mario> Daskreech: unfortunately it doesn't say how to permanently disable a service
[21:14] <BluesKaj> sudo service ssh stop . or if you want just remove openssh
[21:15] <cousin_mario> BluesKaj: I want to be able to start the ssh daemon only when I need it.
[21:15] <cousin_mario> not uninstall it, nor having to stop it at every boot
[21:15] <BluesKaj> sudo service ssh start
[21:15] <cousin_mario> BluesKaj: what good would that do to me?
[21:15] <EagleScreen> cousin_mario: see if rcconf can help you
[21:16] <cousin_mario> EagleScreen: it's upstart-based from what I can see
[21:16] <cousin_mario> not sysvinit
[21:16] <EagleScreen> so uncompatible with rcconf.. true?
[21:17] <BluesKaj> it stops the ssh daemon
[21:17] <cousin_mario> so I can't simply go erase the relevant /etc/rc?.d links
[21:17] <cousin_mario> BluesKaj: what does?
[21:18] <BluesKaj> sudo service ssh stop, does
[21:18] <cousin_mario> BluesKaj: only I don't want it to be started in the first place
[21:19] <BluesKaj> cousin_mario, why , it doesn't do anything til you invoke itr
[21:20] <cousin_mario> BluesKaj: It is a potential vulnerability, I want it to be available only when connected to a safe network
[21:20] <Daskreech> cousin_mario: looks like the recommended way is to rename the file
[21:21] <cousin_mario> Daskreech: the .conf inside /etc/init/ ?
[21:21] <BluesKaj> potential vulnerability...bah , everything is a potential vulnerability ...gawd
[21:22] <BluesKaj> time to take a break...this is getting to be too much for me
[21:22] <cousin_mario> BluesKaj: I thought the idea was to improve things, not complicate them
[21:22] <cousin_mario> unfortunately it hasn't been the case when this script was switched from sysvinit
[21:23] <BluesKaj> miniscule potential IMO ...this isn't windows
[21:23] <cousin_mario> oh, debian would suffice
[21:24] <Daskreech> cousin_mario: yes
[21:24] <cousin_mario> plus I can think of many reasons why one wouldn't want to start ALL of the daemons
[21:24] <Daskreech> cousin_mario: as can I
[21:25] <BluesKaj> cousin_mario, ok , I see you #ubuntu , there's some guys there who are as vulherable as you think you are that might help :)
[21:25] <Daskreech> cousin_mario: Is your computer directly addressable on the internet?
[21:25] <cousin_mario> BluesKaj: perhaps they'll try to understand the question before telling me
[21:26] <cousin_mario> Daskreech: not now, but it is sometimes
[21:27] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: if you have ever trolled the ssh logs for a computer that's internet facing you might agree with cousin_mario more :)
[21:27] <BluesKaj>  I did and your so called vulnerability seems pre..tty small to me .n  ..and if you can't run a simple command without thinking it's jumping thru hoops then you have my sympathy
[21:28] <cousin_mario> run a command at every boot?
[21:28] <Daskreech> cousin_mario: You can automate that :)
[21:28] <BluesKaj> dask then why don'y ydevs include ssh in the startup and shutdown services?
[21:28] <cousin_mario> plus, what if a service was unconfigured?
[21:29] <Daskreech> cousin_mario: well for debian they are all configured for use on install
[21:30] <cousin_mario> Daskreech: I sometimes leave things halfway-through
[21:30] <cousin_mario> on test machines
[21:30] <cousin_mario> can't be sure it's safe
[21:30] <Daskreech> cousin_mario: Well that's your fault then :)
[21:31] <cousin_mario> anyway it's solved
[21:31] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Which services is this?
[21:32] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: The KDE service manager?
[21:37] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, he din't mention ssh ..he asked quote : how do I enable/disable upstart services?
[21:37] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Good point
[21:37] <BluesKaj> bloody waste of time
[21:37] <cousin_mario> unfortunately ssh is handled by upstart, isn't it?
[21:38] <Daskreech> I'd just save the config files and uninstall it but in  any case it needs a better management scenario
[21:39] <cousin_mario> Daskreech: they told me to add a /etc/init/servicename.override file
[21:39] <cousin_mario> containing "manual"
[21:39] <Daskreech> should be interesting once systemd starts propogating to see if those tools will be adopted since Canonical doesn't seem likely to take the system itself
[21:39] <cousin_mario> in case you weren't there
[21:39] <Daskreech> cousin_mario: I wasn't
[21:39] <Daskreech> I had seen something like that but renaming the file seemed faster
[21:40] <cousin_mario> renaming the file would have made impossible to start the service via /sbin/service I believe
[21:40] <Daskreech> yep
[21:40] <Daskreech> that way is "more" maintainable
[21:41] <Daskreech> having service disable ssh would be the easy and maintainable way but let me not complain :)
[21:43] <cousin_mario> indeed
[21:43] <cousin_mario> something à la ufw
[21:45] <SIR_Taco> hmm
[21:46] <SIR_Taco> brb
[21:48] <SIR_Taco> much better
[21:49] <Daskreech> If gnome goes through with making systemd a hard depends that should be interesting
[21:52] <Bobbix> Hi to all... at the end i've solved my wifi problems with KDE and NetworkManager
[21:53] <SIR_Taco> Bobbix: good to hear
[21:54] <Bobbix> Now i'm connected with wifi... the solution was simple but very hard to find.
[21:54] <Bobbix> I'm using an hidden  wifi network... and i've to scan this wifi network before connecting
[21:54] <BluesKaj> Bobbix, well, that 's best ...easy to find but to solve is much worse :)
[21:54] <SIR_Taco> Bobbix: something to suggest in a bug report maybe?
[21:54] <BluesKaj> hard to solve
[21:55] <Bobbix> i've used: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan essid mywlan
[21:55] <SIR_Taco> kind of like.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnm85jraE8s
[21:55] <Bobbix> after this command i've been able to connect without problems..!
[21:55] <BluesKaj> was it the kernel update / ppa , Bobbix?
[21:56] <Bobbix> i've the standrd installation... and standard repositories
[21:56] <BluesKaj> Bobbix, ok good to know for the future
[21:57] <Bobbix> i've fid on an italian linux blog
[21:57] <Bobbix> ok, hi to all, i go to bed (i'm in Italy too an here i'ts 22:57)
[21:57] <Bobbix> Goodnight
[21:57] <cousin_mario> gn
[21:58] <SIR_Taco> 'night Bobbix
[21:58] <BluesKaj> must be an italian thing ...lots of intel wifi on pcs there :)
[22:02] <ubuntu_user> anybody know about broadcom wireless card (bcm4312) and why I get no internet even though everything (iwconfig, ifconfig, route) looks right?
[22:03] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: installing "fwcutter" was a solution I heard a while ago
[22:04] <ubuntu_user> I've got that .. I think that helped the system even talk to the card
[22:05] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_user, try , sudo modprobe b43
[22:05] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: ok... you're not connecting at all? losing connection?  or limited connection?
[22:06] <ubuntu_user> is it right that I have firmware-b43-lphy-installer along with b43-fwcutter ?
[22:07] <ubuntu_user> BluesKaj: nothing outputs from modprobe
[22:08] <SIR_Taco> I've never had a broadcom card... just going with bits I've heard
[22:08] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: ifconfig and iwconfig claim I was connected but I couldn't even ping the router till I added a usb rtl8187
[22:09] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: and route -n showed right before adding the rtl
[22:09] <ubuntu_user> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[22:10] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274954
[22:10] <SIR_Taco> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rtl8187
[22:11] <SIR_Taco> ubottu: we are not!
[22:11] <SIR_Taco> yes, yes I know... way to hamper the sarcasm
[22:13] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: so it's USB wireless?
[22:13] <ubuntu_user> yes, the broadcom that doesn't work and the rtl that does
[22:13] <SIR_Taco> the RTL does work?
[22:13] <ubuntu_user> yes
[22:14] <ubuntu_user> and the bcm claims to but doesn't
[22:14] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, yeah , vlc seems to get around my phonon probs , but I do have beer :)
[22:15] <BluesKaj> usb wifi on kubuntu...uhoh
[22:15] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: have you matched your PCI-ID to this? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#working
[22:16] <ubuntu_user> BluesKaj: it works ... and the builtin bcm doesnt
[22:16] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: scroll up a bit to see the command to get the PCI-ID
[22:17] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_user, good then you are lucky ...my belkin usb is useless
[22:17] <SIR_Taco> BluesKaj: USB NICs are POS.... how's that for acronym hell? haha
[22:18] <Daskreech> idk
[22:18] <SIR_Taco> Daskreech: ty
[22:18] <BluesKaj> it was fine til jaunty  SIR_Taco
[22:19] <Linkmaster> Do you guys happen to know if the development version of KOffice works on KDE4.6?
[22:19] <SIR_Taco> BluesKaj: noooo... it may have been fine for the one you own, but USB network cards are like software modems.... bad news
[22:20] <BluesKaj> ralink rt2870 is supposed to work , but it quits after the first conn and absolutely refuses afterwards
[22:22] <SIR_Taco> BluesKaj: I had a wireless card like that... it was a D-Link and worked fine with the older drivers, but with the ATH9K etc. drivers it would connect, then randomly disconnnect
[22:22] <BluesKaj> forget about wicd , it's out of the picture as well as a network manager...tried wpa_supplicant  and thougt I had it woking ...it did for about 10 mins then started dropping the conn
[22:23]  * BluesKaj nods , SIR_Taco ...
[22:24] <SIR_Taco> BluesKaj: same issue?
[22:24] <BluesKaj> yup SIR_Taco , seems so
[22:24] <SIR_Taco> BluesKaj: you can get the ath_pci drivers still and install them...
[22:25] <DeltaEpsilon> still no kde 4.7 beta in the repo :(
[22:25] <BluesKaj> yeah, but which ones ...tired of blacklisting
[22:25] <BluesKaj> DeltaEpsilon, wait til wed
[22:26] <BluesKaj> beta 2 DeltaEpsilon
[22:26] <DeltaEpsilon> BluesKaj: k :-)
[22:26] <DeltaEpsilon> hope it is good
[22:26] <BluesKaj> so do I
[22:27] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: according to that it should work (w/ potential DMA errors since I haven't made a 3x kernel)
[22:29] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: I'm not sure entirely... I'm running 11.10, but have no 3.0 kernel
[22:29] <SIR_Taco> or the card you have for that matter
[22:30] <ubuntu_user> I don't even know where to look to find the error
[22:30] <SIR_Taco> dmesg would be a good place to check first
[22:32] <ubuntu_user> I don't see anything there that points to a problem.
[22:33] <LINKSWORD2> I'm back, but I may not be very responsive.
[22:34] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: but you can ping the router?
[22:34] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: not wiht the bcm. I could ping localhost and the local 192.168.0 addresses but nothing else
[22:35] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: ok... so it's not connecting... but is the driver being loaded?
[22:36] <SIR_Taco> lol, funny song just started... always makes me laugh
[22:36] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: well, it did connect well enough to get a dhcp internal address, but tcp didn't seem to flow through it
[22:37] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: no ping, no dns, no http
[22:37] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: aside from localhost and local interface
[22:37] <LINKSWORD2> Which song, SIR_Taco?
[22:38] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: ok... so you couldn't even ping the router when you got an IP?  (not trying to say you didn't try all of this, just trying to eliminate the possibilities)
[22:39] <ubuntu_user> that is correct
[22:39] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq_s_q0u2DA&feature=autoplay&list=FLkJ5uDxQPDwo&index=9&playnext=1
[22:40] <LINKSWORD2> lol!
[22:41] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: but it still says you're connected?
[22:41] <DeltaEpsilon> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[22:41] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: affirmative
[22:41] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I fix this error? I ra apt-get update
[22:42] <SIR_Taco> DeltaEpsilon:  http://tnoergaard.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/ubuntu-missing-key-error-howto-fix/
[22:43] <SIR_Taco> DeltaEpsilon: ignore that one... http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/10/fix-requires-installation-untrusted-packages-error-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/
[22:44] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: you don't have any MAC/IP restrictions on your router? what security do you have on the router?
[22:45] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: no restrictions on the router, security is rsa2/psk & hidden ssid
[22:46] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: which shouldn't be  aproblem since I know the key and the ssid
[22:46] <Daskreech> DeltaEpsilon: they will put out Beta 2
[22:46] <Daskreech> that's this week
[22:47] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: ok, and how did you set up the rsa2/psk?
[22:49] <ubuntu_user> went into the router config, selected rsa2/psk, typed in the psk, made sure of capatilization etc, hit apply, set same key  locally, connected, got dynamic ip and route...
[22:50] <ubuntu_user> but no internet
[22:51] <SIR_Taco> I seem to remember having a problem with something similar, if I can remember what the solution was....
[22:51] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: oh .. I was wired when I set the key .. then I took that interface down and did the wifi stuff
[22:51] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: and when that didn't work I rebooted
[22:51] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: and when that didn't work I added the rtl
[22:52] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: and now I'm on the rtl w/ the rsa2/psk
[22:52] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: ok, that was my next question
[22:53] <SIR_Taco> so it's most definitely a problem wth the broadcom card then
[22:53] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: yes
[22:55] <SIR_Taco> I know you're not an unexperienced person, but I'll throw some things at you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338652
[22:56] <SIR_Taco>  or try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-broadcom-ethernet-card-driver-installation/
[22:58] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: I'll take that ... it has been a few years since I ran Linux exclusively. Thanks for the pointers.
[22:58] <SIR_Taco> not a problem
[22:59] <ubuntu_user> ach
[22:59] <ubuntu_user> I need to invest in some new glasses or something
[23:00] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: I missed the UN part of what you said and thought I was being subtly insulted!
[23:01] <xboxowns> Have you guys heard of the amigaOS?
[23:02] <LINKSWORD2> I've heard of it, but I don't know anything significant about it.
[23:03] <xboxowns> Ah ok.
[23:04] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: no, I was not insalting you at all
[23:05] <SIR_Taco> xboxowns: what do you want to know about AmigaOS?
[23:05] <ubuntu_user> SIR_Taco: I saw that and I was trying to apologize for taking umbrage at something you didn't do
[23:05] <SIR_Taco> ubuntu_user: haha ok, no worries
[23:08] <SIR_Taco> and everythings gone silent
[23:09] <ubuntu_user> lol .. I'm busy researching those links you gave me
[23:09] <SIR_Taco> haha ok good