[01:28] <rww> considering banforwarding him to ##drunk-jail
[01:28] <rww> mainly because i just made that channel and find the concept amuysing
[01:29] <rww> "you can get unforwarded if you can answer this CAPTCHA without hitting on anything!"
[01:40] <elky> heh
[01:55] <bazhang> * [joseph_] (~joseph@67.213.39.82): Joseph
[01:55] <bazhang> seems like a troll. complaining that ylfmos is Chinese
[03:45] <bazhang> wow.
[03:46] <IdleOne> staff take a look at #freenode
[03:46] <IdleOne> oh nm :/
[03:46] <bazhang> sirfartsalot is not making much sense.
[03:56] <CarlFK> rubbity [~nerfnord@sd-23674.dedibox.fr  just barfed? in #linuxhelp
[06:27] <elky> slow learner is slow.
[07:31] <Anastasius> Hi there!
[07:32] <ldunn> Hi.
[07:32] <Anastasius> ldunn: Can you tell me why, and be specific, I'm banned from #u-o again?
[07:33] <ldunn> Anastasius: I imagine it's because you outright admitted that you were deliberately harassing a user. This is not allowed.
[07:33] <Anastasius>  Let's test your skills out here.
[07:34] <Anastasius> Who, elky?  I haven't bothered her in hours and she conveniently disappeared when I did.
[07:34] <ldunn> Yes, elky. <Anastasius> Well, it seems I got elky to shut up, so my work here is done for the night.  Have a good evening all!
[07:34] <Anastasius> Get a ruling for me, please.
[07:34] <Anastasius> ldunn: Ridiculous.
[07:35] <rww> Anastasius: The bantracker comment for your ban is "boring trolling and opbaiting". I hope this is enlightening :|
[07:35] <Anastasius> It's really not.  I want you to provide examples.
[07:36] <Anastasius> And also, present those examples to the council.
[07:36] <rww> Anastasius: Unfortunately, I am rather too busy learning how to walk around LambdaMOO. "/lastlog Anastasius" or your client's equivalent should function reasonably well.
[07:37] <Anastasius> rww: Oh, so that's it?  I insult elky (and who doesn't want to, really) and I get banned?
[07:37] <rww> Anastasius: That's entirely different fron what I said, but you're welcome to put words in my mouth as much as you like.
[07:38] <rww> s/n /m /
[07:38] <Anastasius> You're better than that, sir.
[07:38] <Anastasius> Yes, you learned how to skirt the issue at hand as well.  Good job.
[07:39] <Anastasius> You should go into politics someday.
[07:39] <rww> I'm very good at not expending effort when it won't change anything. It's a valuable life skill.
[07:39] <Anastasius> I'm sure it is.
[07:40] <Anastasius> However, this will not end here.  ;)
[07:40] <Anastasius> Buh-bye.
[07:40] <rww> g'night, again
[07:40] <Anastasius> ldunn: How are you liking this so far?
[07:41] <Flannel> Anastasius: I imagine the useful life of this conversation has passed.  Kindly leave until you're ready to have an actual conversation.
[07:42] <Anastasius> I thought I was having a conversation, until my complaint was ignored (again).
[07:42] <Anastasius> I really think other more level heads should chime in on this issue.  aka, none of you.
[07:43] <rww> Please feel free to escalate to the IRC Council, then. Do you know the drill, or shall I have ubottu spam you?
[07:43] <Anastasius> What would be the point of that?  I think we can settle this here.
[07:44] <Anastasius> Or are you afraid of just dealing with it directly?
[07:44] <Flannel> Anastasius: We probably can, all that would be required is that your attitude changes signficantly.  Obviously, this won't happen in the next few minutes, so please come back once it has.
[07:45] <Anastasius> Flannel:  I'm completely cool about it, I just don't like being treated like a criminal.  State your case.
[07:45] <Flannel> Anastasius: You were already warned tonight once that continued harassment would lead to a ban, and you acknowledged that fact.  I'm not sure why this is a surprise to you.
[07:46] <Anastasius> Flannel: Be specific here.  What, exactly, triggered the ban?
[07:46] <Flannel> Anastasius: The continued harassment.
[07:46] <Anastasius> Of elky?
[07:46] <Flannel> I wasn't the one who banned you, but if I had to take a guess, I'd say this line:
[07:46] <Flannel> < Anastasius> Well, it seems I got elky to shut up, so my work here is done for the night.  Have a good evening all!
[07:47] <Anastasius> Flannel: You're guessing.  I want a specific answer, not a guess.
[07:47] <Flannel> Anastasius: I was not the one who banned you, but had I been around at the time, I would have banned you for the above.
[07:47] <Flannel> Anastasius: That's as specific as I can give you.
[07:47] <Anastasius> Well, since rww banned me let's here it from him, shall we?
[07:48] <Anastasius> Circle your wagons, I'll wait.
[07:48] <Flannel> Anastasius: You and I are having a conversation.
[07:48] <Flannel> Anastasius: And I already said, had I been looking at my screen, I would have banned you for that if he had not.
[07:48] <Anastasius> Flannel: That's nonsense, and I think you know that.
[07:49] <Flannel> Anastasius: What is?
[07:49] <Flannel> The fact that I would have banned you for it if he had not?
[07:49] <Flannel> or the fact that I wasn't looking at my screen?
[07:49] <Anastasius> Flannel: No, the fact you would ban someone (anyone) for that at all.
[07:50] <Anastasius> She's not above the law.  lol, believe me, she's not.  :)
[07:50] <Flannel> Anastasius: We already had this discussion.  I told you that if you continued to harass, you would be banned.
[07:50] <Flannel> Anastasius: That is continued harassment, and as such, you are banned.
[07:50] <Flannel> Anastasius: What are you talking about?
[07:51] <Flannel> Anastasius: We're talking about you being antagonistic, I could care less about what elky does.  She has a right to be in -ot and to not be antagonized.
[07:51] <Anastasius> You don't want to hear what I have to say about that, clearly.  So our business is done?
[07:51] <Flannel> Anastasius: This is not your personal soap box, so if you're not willing to stay on topic, then yes, our business is done.
[07:52] <Anastasius> Great.  Have a nice day.  Flannel, I do hope you will remember this conversation in the future. ;)
[07:52] <Flannel> Anastasius: Go write a blog post about it or something.  I think twitter will let you proclaim whatever you want, 140 characters at a time.
[09:03] <elky> Aww, I go away to make cupcakes and miss the fun?
[09:04] <elky> It's amusing how all I have to do is go about business as I was intending to anyway and he somehow claims it to be a seizing of control over my life.
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> Oh hey, he got a ban at it wasn't even about me.  Bonus.  Well-timed sleep, that was.
[15:01] <bazhang>  drag0nz has quit (Max SendQ exceeded)
[15:02] <bazhang> he seems to have some connection issue
[15:02] <bazhang> what is the quit message mean btw
[15:02] <bazhang> err does
[15:08] <IdleOne> Max sendq exceeded
[15:08] <IdleOne> This is an old configuration on some servers that holds a max amount of data you can send during one session. This means that the server can't relay the text you sent to it and the server disconnects you to make you start a new session.
 how to login as a root?
[15:28] <bazhang> logging in as root?
[15:32] <ikonia> silly
[15:32] <bazhang> my thoughts exactly
[16:19] <bazhang> its like a virus; another user asking how to login as root
[16:41] <bazhang> m00se is robinetd?
[16:42] <IdleOne> not sure but I think it might be
[16:42] <ikonia> yes
[16:42] <ikonia> LjL: you thre
[16:42] <bazhang> odd questions he's asking
[16:42] <ikonia> there is another guy called moose who is not the same
 Mysquirrel, (mysquirrel, mysquirrel), talkin' 'bout, my squirrelllll *mysquirrel*
[16:43] <bazhang> in #ubuntu
[16:44] <ikonia> if it is robinetd then he needs to be banned
[16:46] <ikonia> but I don't want to get the m00se guy and moose confused
[17:01] <bazhang> thought judget was on hardy server
[17:01] <bazhang> which would be 5 years
[17:01] <ikonia> maybe, don't know
[17:02] <ikonia> can't get straight answer from him, so I don't care any more
[17:02] <bazhang> he had reading comprehension issues earlier as well
[17:03] <oCean> lts is 3yr for desktop and 5 for server right? oh wait, the factoid says 'desktop support ended' ..
[17:03] <IdleOne> oCean: yes and yes
[17:03] <bazhang> so 2013
[17:03] <ikonia> yeah, that's 3 years
[17:04] <ikonia> 8 9 10 11
[17:04] <bazhang> err 2012
[17:04] <ikonia> for the server yes
[17:04] <IdleOne> doens't really matter if it is supported or not he isn't helping himself by not answering
[17:04] <oCean> agreed
[17:05] <ikonia> no, I'm off to do something interesting
[17:05] <IdleOne> later dude :)
[17:05] <ikonia> laters
[17:05] <bazhang> bye
[17:05] <oCean> but the difference for support in desktop/sever is not all that easy
[17:06] <ikonia> they will also have to keep the repos open longer
[17:06] <IdleOne> he could have had his porblem fixed by now probably if he just stopped thinking he knew what he was doing and listen
[17:07] <ikonia> he's now asking in #postfix despite me telling him it's not an actual postfix problem
[17:07] <ikonia> really doesn't listen
[17:11] <ubunturocks> ikonia, why did you kick me out?
[17:11] <ikonia> ubunturocks: your attitude
[17:11] <ubunturocks> My attitude? What about yours? Isn't this supposed to be a question/answer channel? All you've done is being critic but not helpful
[17:12] <ikonia> ubunturocks: you gave the channel the wrong information about your issue
[17:12] <ikonia> ubunturocks: I corrected you so that people have the right information,
[17:12] <ikonia> ubunturocks: there is no Ubuntu 11 LTS
[17:12] <ikonia> ubunturocks: I simpley corrected you so that it's either 11.04 non-lts or 10.04 lts so people have the right info
[17:13] <ikonia> they are quite different, so it does matter
[17:13] <ubunturocks> ikonia, I corrected myself by specifying 11.04 [Release name]. At which point you specified again, in a pedantic way, it was not LTS. Did that help anybody?
[17:13] <ikonia> we typed that at exactly the same time
[17:13] <ikonia> 17:08 < ubunturocks> ikonia, 11.04 Natty Narwhal
[17:13] <ikonia> 17:08 < ikonia> ubunturocks: it's not lts
[17:14] <ikonia> there is less than a second between it
[17:14] <ubunturocks> ikonia, then you would not kick me out by understanding the race condition
[17:14] <ikonia> I kicked you out because of your attitude
[17:14] <ubunturocks> ikonia, I believe you abuse your powers...
[17:14] <ikonia> 17:10 < ubunturocks> ikonia, would you mind wasting my time next time? These details didn't help anybody. Cheers
[17:14] <ikonia> that's uncalled for,
[17:14] <ikonia> the information was actually needed if it was 10.04 or 11.04 does matter
[17:15] <ubunturocks> ikonia, your second comment was not called for, but because you are an administrator you felt like you could kick me out. This is not open-source, this is not democracy
[17:15] <ikonia> and as you'd said, if you understood the race condition, you wouldn't have made that comment
[17:15] <ikonia> ubunturocks: what second comment ?
[17:15] <ubunturocks> The pedantic one, typed at the same time as mine
[17:15] <ikonia> ubunturocks: correct, this channel is not open source and it is not a deomcracy - just so you're clear
[17:15] <ikonia> ubunturocks: I typed the second command at the same time as yours to correct you
[17:16] <ikonia> ubunturocks: had you typed 11.04 before I'd typed that ubuntu 11 LTS doesn't exist, I wouldn't have typed it
[17:16] <ikonia> ubunturocks: until that was clear, it's a very good question to ask if it's 10.04 LTS or 11.04 non-lts
[17:17] <ikonia> can you see that now ?
[17:18] <ubunturocks> Of course.
[17:18] <ikonia> great,
[17:18] <ubunturocks> So what do I need to do to get an answer to my question now?
[17:19] <ikonia> control your attitude/smart mouth comments, leave this channel and rejoin #ubuntu while trying to be clear about the question and the details you asked
[17:19] <ubunturocks> Ok, thanks
[17:22] <ikonia> heads up that alzamabar is ubunturocks in #ubuntu
[17:22] <ikonia> don't know why he changed nicks to join
[18:53] <LjL> ikonia, IdleOne: no m00se is not robinetd. robinetd used to be moose.
[18:53] <ikonia> LjL: we got there in the end
[22:30] <teadict> hi
[22:31] <jussi> hi teadict
[22:31] <Tm_T> hello
[22:31] <teadict> so, let's clear this shit up...
[22:31] <Tm_T> language, please
[22:31] <teadict> before I startbuilding up theories about all of you and get banned for stupidity
[22:31] <teadict> okey..
[22:31]  * jussi is a on phone, so slightly slow
[22:31] <teadict> what you want me to do to go get all good?
[22:32] <teadict> *to get
[22:32] <Tm_T> what do you mean by that?
[22:33] <teadict> well, apparently elky raised the flag, and all the ops now think I am a hazard
[22:33] <teadict> so you're watchinig me closely, and even if I get to joke about what happened.. I might get canned
[22:33] <teadict> who is offended by people joking about what happened?
[22:33] <ikonia> ?
[22:34] <ikonia> what are you actually talking about
[22:34] <teadict> not everyone knows what happened then
[22:34] <ikonia> is there something we can actually help you with ?
[22:35] <teadict> yes, I want to know if everything is cool with what happened with elky and me
[22:35] <ikonia> I have no idea what you're talking about, so I suggest you speak to elky about it directly
[22:36] <teadict> that's been done, you're not aware of what's happening, so you don't have to get in the way if you don't want to
[22:36] <teadict> it's okey, others do
[22:36] <teadict> nevermind then
[22:37] <ikonia> I'm not getting in the way, I'm trying to find out if there is something we can do to help you
[22:37] <teadict> some ops can, but don't worry
[22:37] <teadict> I'll talk to them
[22:38] <topyli> teadict: i don't think anybody else is concerned about what happens between the two of you. if someone else is involved, involve those too, by all means. but it's not a matter for the whole team here
[22:39] <teadict> okey.. my bad then
[22:39] <teadict> I was misinformed
[22:39] <teadict> I'll talk to them then
[22:40]  * Tm_T shakes his head
[23:03] <rww> o_O
[23:07]  * hypatia shrugs