[01:03] <ejv> @ crashsystems: nothing wrong with html5 and css. notwithstanding 'major' exploits in javascript (seldom these days), i don't think it's horrific. now if they said php, then i'd be frightened. we all know php is like running through the hall with scissors.
[18:52] <DammitJim> any of you use an ipod w/o itunes?
[18:52] <DammitJim> I just got a ipod 80GB classic, but I don't know how to load music into it in linux w/o using iTunes