[00:46] <jgould> wow... that was a random thunderstorm...
[00:47]  * Unit193 didn't get one...
[00:47] <jgould> oh... we did
[00:48] <jgould> Also, Ubuntu just pissed me off on the laptop
[00:49] <Unit193> ...better than pissed on me...
[00:49] <skellat> So what did it do or not do?
[00:57] <skellat> Well, ping timeouts are not cool I guess...
[00:58] <Unit193> That was his server...
[00:58] <Unit193> That means router cutout
[00:59] <skellat> Well, nasty weather was on the move earlier
[01:06]  * skellat burps
[01:10]  * skrappjaw is ready for more bad weather.
[01:11] <skrappjaw> Just not when I have to tote my equipment out for a gig.
[01:14] <skellat> skrappjaw: What sort of gig?
[01:18] <skrappjaw> i play bass and sing.
[01:19] <skrappjaw> with a band. We have drums, bass, 2 guitars, horns and an organ player.
[01:19] <skrappjaw> we share vocal duties among us so no one person gets worn out.
[01:29] <skellat> Cool
[01:30] <dmcglone1> wazzup ppl ;-)
[01:30] <dmcglone1> wake up its the troll :-)
[01:32] <skrappjaw> jammin some tom waits
[01:32] <skellat> I'm awake...most others are enjoying the weather...
[01:32] <dmcglone1> we just had a pretty bad storm
[01:33] <skrappjaw> where are you dmcglonel
[01:33] <skrappjaw> ?
[01:33] <dmcglone1> it blew over pretty quick though.
[01:33] <dmcglone1> Columbus skrappjaw
[01:34] <dmcglone1> Ordered a pizza while it was storming and the guy was like, we'll be there as soon as we can thats how bad it was
[01:35] <dmcglone1> wish it would hurry  and get here, I'm so dang hungary
[01:37] <skrappjaw> ic
[01:38] <skrappjaw> ya. just checked the radar. we are in for it tonight. there is a storm that is building from indianapolis to toledo. I'm in mansfield. Just north of you.
[01:39] <skrappjaw> Good thing mom is cooking dinner @ home tonight
[01:42] <dmcglone1> I would have cooked but I'm still down with my back
[01:43] <dmcglone1> I asked my wife what was for dinner when I got home and she said, whatever you can find, so I found the phone number for the pizza place :-)
[02:00] <skellat> I wrote in teh gopherspace: http://ur1.ca/4cls5
[02:01] <canthus13> gopher?
[02:01] <skellat> Yep
[02:01] <canthus13> Heh. I remember when gopher was and the web wasn't.
[02:02] <skellat> So do I...I was in junior high at the time
[02:02]  * canthus13 was in college.
[02:03] <skellat> For a lightweight protocol, Gopher does plenty
[02:03] <canthus13> Yup. I wasted hours and hours exploring gopher...
[02:04] <canthus13> Bah. I wish I could find documentation on cairo compositor's plugins...
[02:04]  * dmcglone1 was just getting accustom to walking with a walker ;-)
[02:05] <canthus13> dmcglone1: Eh? I thought you were older than me... :/
[02:06] <canthus13> man page is useless...
[02:06] <dmcglone1> I don't think I am, I needed the walker after my wife broke my legs for sitting on the computer all the time and not cutting the grass...
[02:06]  * dmcglone1 is 39, will be 40 in October
[02:06] <canthus13> Thought so.
[02:07] <canthus13> About 3 years older.
[02:07] <dmcglone1> Ah shux, I thought I was the youngest one here ;-/
[02:08] <Unit193> canthus13: I thought you were older...
[02:08] <dmcglone1> Oh lord, I ju
[02:08] <dmcglone1> grrrr
[02:08] <dmcglone1> I just found out, I've got about 6 people on their way to visit :-/
[02:09] <canthus13> Unit193: Heh.
[02:09] <canthus13> dmcglone1: Answer the door naked. they'll leave.
[02:09] <dmcglone1> lol canthus
[02:09] <canthus13> IRC: The last bastion of sound advice...
[02:09] <Unit193> dmcglone1: It would work...
[02:09] <canthus13> Unit193: How old did you think I am?
[02:09]  * canthus13 likes to think that he doesn't act his age...
[02:09] <dmcglone1> Looks like I'm gonna be DJ'ing tonight
[02:10] <Unit193> canthus13: In the 40's (Maybe very early 50's)
[02:10] <Unit193> ...you asked...
[02:10] <dmcglone1> well canthus13 think about it, look where we are, so neither of us do ;-)
[02:10] <canthus13> Geez.
[02:10] <canthus13> dmcglone1: True....
[02:11]  * Unit193 is also bad at guessing age...
[02:11]  * canthus13 still has a good 3 years 'til the 11th anniversary of his 29th birthday.
[02:11] <dmcglone1> canthus13: we really need to grow up... LOL
[02:11] <canthus13> dmcglone1: I refuse.
[02:11] <dmcglone1> me too :-)
[02:12] <dmcglone1> I guess we are going through our midlife crisis a tad bit early... ;-)
[02:12]  * canthus13 needs to find freakin' documentation for cairo plugins.. 20 freaking plugins, no docs. :/
[02:13] <canthus13> skellat: what do *YOU* know about cairo-compmgr plugins?
[02:13] <skellat> Bupkis
[02:13] <skellat> Nada
[02:13] <skellat> Nothing
[02:14] <canthus13> nuts.  I'll still blame you for the lack of documentation. :(
[02:14] <skellat> That's okay.
[02:15] <dmcglone1> Okie dokie guys, I gotta go for a while, they want to karaoke and I have to hook my computer up to the tv :-/
[02:16] <dmcglone1> I guess I'll hang out and pester everyone some other time.. LOL
[03:24] <canthus13> Cheri703: Got pics from sully at Fort Polk... and eating a crawfish dinner. :)
[03:25] <Cheri703> ha, nice
[03:25] <Unit193> canthus13: Is the newist Dr Who TBC?
[03:27] <Unit193> I would guess it's good...
[03:36] <canthus13> Unit193: Haven't watched it yet.... Wife's doing homework and she'd kill me if I watch it without her.
[04:02] <Cheri703> canthus13: you're a smart man...
[04:02] <Cheri703> at least sometimes ;)
[04:02] <canthus13> Cheri703: thpthpthpthp.
[04:02] <Cheri703> happy wife happy life and all
[04:02] <canthus13> Heh.
[04:02] <Cheri703> my husband........has not entirely grasped this concept
[04:03] <canthus13> Reminds me... I need to copy it to the media server.
[04:03]  * Cheri703 has read 3 books in 2 days...again
[04:03] <Cheri703> except these were on the nook \o/
[04:04] <Cheri703> I contemplated starting another, but am catching up on some online-ish things atm. I am still procrastinating that video project though :/
[04:04] <canthus13> Heh.
[04:05] <Cheri703> I'm over it. I just don't want to deal with it anymore
[04:05] <Cheri703> oh, here's a question that may save me some effort in actually *looking*
[04:05] <Cheri703> do pretty much all modern dvd players play any type of burnable dvd? or are they still -r +r specific?
[04:07] <canthus13> It's pretty much hit or miss iirc.
[04:07] <Cheri703> :/
[04:07] <Cheri703> client wants these videos put on dvd so they can watch them, currently they're using their ps2 as a dvd player (non-slim), and I know *my* ps2 won't recognize burned disks at all
[04:08] <Cheri703> and they said they may be buying a dvd player at some point in the future, so...it's pretty futile to put these on dvd, eh?
[04:08] <canthus13> ...Prolly.
[04:08] <canthus13> DVD players are dirt cheap, though.
[04:10] <Cheri703> -_-
[04:10] <Cheri703> this lady is NOT technologically inclined...at all
[04:10] <canthus13> Ah. Might wanna make her a flip-book, then.
[04:10] <Cheri703> I want to just give her the files and be done with it, but...bah
[04:41] <paultag> hey Cheri703
[04:41] <paultag> Cheri703: I've been saving up and I think I'm doing the nook thing. Have you got yours?
[04:42] <paultag> also heyya canthus13 :)
[04:42] <Unit193> ...
[04:42] <paultag> Unit193! :)
[04:42] <Unit193> paultag: ;)
[04:45] <Cheri703> yep
[04:45] <Cheri703> sorry, was in the other room
[04:45] <Cheri703> it's pretty sweet
[04:45] <Cheri703> jesusfreke in #nookdevs has it booting from some other something already, he took his apart last night :)
[04:45] <Cheri703> it's not *rooted* but it's progress
[04:45] <Cheri703> paultag: ^^
[04:46] <Cheri703> I've read 3 books in under 20 hours, and that's including about 8 hours of sleep :)
[04:47] <Cheri703> probably going to start another tonight...
[04:47] <paultag> Cheri703: np :)
[04:47] <paultag> Cheri703: nice!! :)
[04:47] <paultag> let me pop over
[04:48] <Cheri703> he updated the nookdevs site with processor info about it
[04:48] <paultag> Cheri703: :)
[04:48] <paultag> Cheri703: I'll see if he says anything to that
[04:48] <Cheri703> I'm really enjoying it
[04:49] <paultag> Cheri703: any downers about it (besides the lack of 3G)
[04:49] <skellat> Cheri703: Overall good time with the device so far?
[04:49] <paultag> heyya skellat
[04:49] <Cheri703> uhm, has the crappy nook file navigation/sorting, though this one lets you browse by file, but other than that, nothing I've seen so far
[04:49] <Cheri703> it is nice having multiple ways of changing pages
[04:49] <Cheri703> tap, swipe, or hw buttons
[04:49] <paultag> mm?
[04:49] <paultag> ah, nice
[04:50] <Cheri703> o/ skellat
[04:50] <Cheri703> yeah, I am really liking it
[04:50] <paultag> Cheri703: I really want to be able to get it digesting RSS
[04:50] <paultag> if I can do that then I'm golden
[04:50] <Cheri703> I think it probably can, probably a function of calibre (which, btw, there's a nice newer version that recognizes the new nook)
[04:51] <Cheri703> you could join #calibre and/or look on their site if you have questions about getting that working with feeds
[04:51] <skellat> paultag: Use rawdog to glom the output of your feeds then convert the resultant HTML to whatever format you want
[04:51] <skellat> See, for example, http://erielookingproductions.info/Feeds.html
[04:51] <paultag> skellat: actually other way around
[04:51] <paultag> skellat: I have tons of raw data, I'm putting it into one RSS feed, then I want to digest that on a tablet
[04:52] <skellat> Hmm.
[04:52] <paultag> skellat: so I'm jacking data from all kinds of sources and digesting it into a format I want on a tablet like the nook :)
[04:52] <skellat> Yahoo! Pipes in the mix at all?
[04:52] <paultag> such as git repos, server jobs etc :)
[04:52] <paultag> skellat: nosir. Mostly home-brew
[04:53] <skellat> I'd still use rawdog to transmogrify the RSS into HTML which would be an intermediate step to converting to EPUB
[04:53] <paultag> mmhum
[04:53] <skellat> That's how Amazon's Digital Text Platform basically works as they want indy publishers to upload in HTML for them to transmogrify for Kindle usage
[04:53] <paultag> barf
[04:54] <paultag> that should be a local app
[04:54]  * skellat recognizes he is listed in the Kindle store in a few places
[04:54] <paultag> sweet :)
[04:54] <Cheri703> I just have the wifi turned off, because I am only loading stuff from the computer. also paultag, when you get it, go on the b&n site to delete the crappy sample books and such from your "account" and then refresh it
[04:54] <skellat> paultag: It definitely should be a local app.  Considering the mix of what Amazon provides, especially with EC2, that's really not a high priority for them.
[04:54] <paultag> Cheri703: oh?
[04:54] <paultag> skellat: aye
[04:55] <Cheri703> yeah, you have your "account" on the site, where you can manage books you've purchased from them, it comes preloaded with "samples" and you can't delete them locally
[04:55] <paultag> Cheri703: how's it sync with Ubuntu?
[04:55] <paultag> Cheri703: Ah, sweet. I see, cool
[04:55] <Cheri703> fine, shows up as flash storage
[04:55] <paultag> so it's managed via browser, cool
[04:55] <paultag> Cheri703: hummmm
[04:55] <Cheri703> books straight from b&n are
[04:55] <skellat> I'm curious if Banshee could plop a/v files on the Nook
[04:55] <Cheri703> the newer calibre recognizes it at connection
[04:56] <Cheri703> the new nook has no a/v capability
[04:56] <skellat> Crap
[04:56] <paultag> Cheri703: ah, what a bummer
[04:56]  * skellat puts on the private-practice evil librarian-type hat
[04:56] <Cheri703> not even audio, which the old one apparently had
[04:56] <paultag> Cheri703: crud. Now I'm wondering if a color is a better buy
[04:56] <Cheri703> I'm sure you could store the files on there, but you can't play them
[04:56] <paultag> 3G is pretty critical
[04:56] <paultag> but I don't like the idea of a backlight
[04:56] <Cheri703> color has no 3g either afaik
[04:57] <paultag> ach, really?
[04:57] <skellat> Way too many blue sky thinkers in the publishing biz have claimed that a/v content in ebooks was essential.  I'm shocked that Barnes & Noble produced effectively a tablet computer without a/v capability instead of a futuristic e-reader
[04:57] <Cheri703> yup
[04:57] <Cheri703> kindle and old nook have 3g
[04:57] <Cheri703> but kindle has no epub
[04:57] <Cheri703> which was a must for me
[04:58] <skellat> Until June 30th, 3G remains useless here in Ashtabula County
[04:58] <Cheri703> skellat: this thing is pretty straightforward E READER, nothing else
[04:58] <Cheri703> which is fine by me
[04:58] <skellat> Cheri703: How much did it cost?
[04:58] <Cheri703> $140+tax
[04:59] <skellat> Yikes
[04:59] <paultag> humm.
[04:59] <canthus13> paultag: Oh Hi.
[04:59] <paultag> skellat: that's not too bad for a full android platform
[04:59] <paultag> heyya canthus13
[04:59] <skellat> paultag: But as Cheri703 noted, it is an ereader only
[04:59] <Cheri703> well, it runs android 2.1
[05:00] <Cheri703> just e-ink screen and no audio support
[05:00] <paultag> skellat: until you hack it
[05:00] <Cheri703> so you could actually run android apps, just have to be aware of e-ink limitations
[05:00] <paultag> Cheri703: that's not a problem if I write the app for it
[05:00] <Cheri703> :)
[05:00] <skellat> paultag: For that cost I could pick up ten hardbacks for the collection here
[05:01] <paultag> skellat: yeah, but I need a book that can stay updated with info on all my F/OSS projects
[05:01] <Cheri703> I'm a pretty fast reader, so libraries are a HUGE hassle for me...I'm in there every few days returning/restocking, so I don't read...I ENJOY reading, but it's a big hassle. so this thing is going to be awesome for me :) and as soon as I can get them formatted in a happier way, I will be able to study cert manuals and such (the pdf conversion didn't go as smoothly as hoped)
[05:02] <paultag> Cheri703: can it not do PDFs OTB?
[05:02] <Cheri703> so, while one *could* purchase many physical books for the same price, *for me* this is a WAY better option
[05:02] <Cheri703> yeah, but displaying them and stuff...I'm still toying with straight pdf vs converted to epub
[05:02] <skellat> Cheri703: I know.
[05:02] <Cheri703> it depends on the file
[05:02] <Cheri703> some show up better than others
[05:03] <Unit193> A bluescreen on shutdown... Nice!
[05:03] <paultag> Cheri703: any rhyme or reason?\
[05:04] <Cheri703> just based on original format of the pdf
[05:04] <skellat> Unit193: What bluescreened?
[05:04] <Cheri703> it depends on how the creator did things paultag
[05:04] <paultag> humm
[05:04] <skellat> Cheri703 & paultag: Not all PDFs are the same.  Having them tagged makes reflowing better.  LibreOffice allows that easily on export to PDF.
[05:04] <Cheri703> yeah
[05:05] <Unit193> skellat: Some crappy OS :P
[05:05] <Cheri703> but if you're....acquiring a pdf of a book, then sometimes they are unfriendly
[05:05] <paultag> Cheri703: I wonder if I can find an android tablet
[05:05] <skellat> Unit193: At least it isn't the Yellow Screen of Death we get from Time Warner Cable when a channel feed suddenly drops out
[05:05] <paultag> under 300 bucks
[05:06] <Cheri703> nook color
[05:06] <paultag> Cheri703: IIRC that hardware is a abit old
[05:06] <Cheri703> I just didn't want backlight :)
[05:06] <Cheri703> I dunno
[05:06] <Cheri703> but it's cheap
[05:06] <paultag> true, I don't like backlight
[05:06] <paultag> Cheri703: aye
[05:06] <paultag> ugh, what a decision
[05:07] <paultag> I wonder if it has the same SD setup as the original
[05:07] <Cheri703> paultag: if you are willing to wait til they get a STABLE root/alternate rom, then I will test whatever you come up with, as long as you promise that if it gets screwed up, you'll replace it and you can have this one :)
[05:07] <Cheri703> what do you mean?
[05:08] <paultag> Cheri703: the old nooks had a SD card on the board it's self as well as the external one
[05:08] <Cheri703> no, when the guy opened it up, it's a 2gb flash chip right on the board
[05:09] <paultag> Cheri703: awesome!! What format?
[05:09] <Cheri703> http://nookdevs.com/Nook_Simple_Touch
[05:09] <Cheri703> that's as much as he said last night (basically)
[05:10] <paultag> Cheri703: ah bummer it's melted in
[05:10] <Cheri703> yeah, sorry, that was what I meant
[05:10] <paultag> humm
[05:10] <paultag> I wonder if he has a photo
[05:10] <Cheri703> ask him, he replied in #nookdevs, that's the guy :)
[05:10] <paultag> if it's a sane format a breakout board will be easy to wire up
[05:10] <paultag> Cheri703: ty :)
[05:11] <Cheri703> yup :)
[05:17] <skellat> I'm shuffling off to bed.  Goodnight y'all.  To get any audio in to the podcast, I need it before 6 PM or so Sunday.  All you have to do is call 702-714-0397 and Google Voice handles the rest.  The machine-generated transcripts are usually hilarious by themselves.  ReLoCo updates are especially sought as to what's going on across the state...
[05:18] <paultag> night skrappjaw
[05:28] <paultag> alright, I'm off too
[05:28] <paultag> 'night all
[05:28] <Unit193> Adios!
[05:31] <dmcglone1> Whew what a night :-/
[05:32] <canthus13> dmcglone1: you're awake?? Aren't you up waaaaaaaay past your bedtime?
[05:33] <dmcglone1> LOL canthus13 everyone just left my house
[05:33] <Unit193> canthus13: I thought it was 11 too...
[05:33] <Unit193> dmcglone1: Did you moon them?
[05:33] <canthus13> dmcglone1: I thought you turned into a pumpkin or passed out where you stood or something.
[05:33] <dmcglone1> I usually get in bed and watch tv till about 1 or 2 am
[05:33] <dmcglone1> LOL
[05:34] <dmcglone1> I usually come in here a while before I hit the hay, and even though tonight is a later night, I don't break my routine.. LOL
[05:35] <dmcglone1> everyone came over unexpectedly
[05:35] <Unit193> Where is jgould anyway? He's part of the late night crew...
[05:36] <dmcglone1> while they were singing karaoke, I thought about sneaking in the computer room and hanging out, but I didn't want to be rude :-/
[05:36]  * Unit193 would have do it...
[05:37] <dmcglone1> well I'm wide awake thats for sure
[05:38] <dmcglone1> It's more exciting hanging in here talking to myself than listening them howl on a microphone... LOL
[05:39] <dmcglone1> Anybody ever heard of the band DC Talk?
[05:39] <Unit193> Use cotton
[05:39] <Unit193> dmcglone1: Yeah
[05:40] <dmcglone1> Rick May of DC talk is my cousin
[05:41] <dmcglone1> thats why there's so much freakin music around here all the time
[05:41] <dmcglone1> No freakin wonder I'm deaf ;-)
[05:52] <dmcglone1> gonna get me so cereal. I eat breakfast before I go to bed so I don't have to do it in the morning.
[05:52] <Unit193> But then you don't get to eat in the morning...
[05:54] <dmcglone1> I hate eating in the morning
[05:54] <dmcglone1> too tired, too lazy and it makes me sick
[05:55] <Unit193> But there is no food...
[05:55] <dmcglone1> I don't know why, but i've always ate cereal before bed
[05:55] <dmcglone1> I guess you could say it's my midnight snack
[05:56] <Unit193> I eat at night too, but I also eat in the morning...
[05:56] <dmcglone1> I have never in as long as I can remember eating in the morning
[05:59] <canthus13> Wow... I'm listening to the entire Nirvana Nevermind album for the first time in probably 15 years.
[06:00] <dmcglone1> cool, I haven't heard them in ages either
[06:01] <dmcglone1> canthus13: like slipknot?
[06:03] <dmcglone1> Dang that got me thinking of all that old school music
[06:03] <dmcglone1> Suicidal Tendencies "you can't bring me down"
[06:04] <canthus13> dmcglone1: slipknot? nah.. ST rocked, tough. :)
[06:05] <dmcglone1> yeah ST. remember "SOD" stormtroopers of death? or "MOD" Method of destruc‭tion?
[06:06] <canthus13> MOD yes. SOD no.
[06:06] <dmcglone1> bad ass bands!
[06:07] <dmcglone1> RUN DMC?
[06:08] <dmcglone1> Damn man how I miss High School now
[06:15] <canthus13> Heh.
[06:15]  * canthus13 is off to bed... weird to be hitting the sack before dmcglone.
[06:16] <Unit193> Heh
[06:16] <Unit193> He's on after 1am!!
[06:16] <canthus13> Unit193: I don't think it's really him.
[06:16] <canthus13> Anway... 'nite.
[06:17] <Unit193> canthus13: You may be on to something!
[06:17] <Unit193> Have a good one!
[06:17] <canthus13> I will. No kids. :)
[06:17] <dmcglone1> LOL
[06:18] <Unit193> Why the heck they don't have plowshare in the repos (Even GetDeb) I will never know...
[06:18] <dmcglone1> who knows when I'll decide to hit the hay tonight, but I'm sensing it'll be soon.
[06:18] <dmcglone1> what is plowshare?
[06:19] <Unit193> Cheri703 is gone, jgould is MIA and canthus13 is down for the night
[06:19] <Cheri703> hmm?
[06:19] <Unit193> http://code.google.com/p/plowshare/
[06:19] <Unit193> Cheri703 isn't gone...
[06:19]  * Cheri703 is reading
[06:19] <Cheri703> y'know, books n stuff
[06:20] <Cheri703> \o/ for nook!
[06:20] <Unit193> She has DND on...
[06:20] <Unit193> How much llike a book is it?
[06:20] <Cheri703> dnd?
[06:20] <Cheri703> reading quality: very much, convenience? way better
[06:21] <Unit193> Do Not Disturb
[06:21] <dmcglone1> I hardly ever read because when I do, I can't set it down and it takes my whole day and night
[06:21] <Cheri703> dmcglone1: I've started on book 4 since yesterday around 10pm...
[06:21] <Cheri703> Unit193: I have no knowledge of having that on..maybe because I was idle?
[06:21] <dmcglone1> it's hard to set em down once you get going isn't it
[06:22] <Cheri703> yup
[06:22] <Unit193> Cheri703: I was just saying that you did, nothing was telling me that
[06:22] <dmcglone1> John Grisham is my favorite author
[06:22] <Cheri703> ah
[06:23] <Unit193> dmcglone1: Did you have a look?
[06:23] <Cheri703> ping me if you need me :)
[06:27] <dmcglone1> the file sharing with from the command line?
[06:27] <dmcglone1> yeah
[06:27] <dmcglone1> with all the recent lawsuits and stuff, I'm afraid to use file sharing
[06:29] <Unit193> It downloads from things like megaupload, rapidshare, 4shared, mediafire (That doesn't have to be illegal)
[06:30] <dmcglone1> Limewire did the same thing and they just recently got shut down
[06:33] <Unit193> Those are hosting sites, LimeWire was a P2P client...
[06:34] <dmcglone1> Ah yes, very true
[06:36] <Unit193> ...and it didn't run on linux (FrostWire does)
[06:37] <Unit193> :D
[06:38] <dmcglone1> I used Limewire on linux exclusivly
[06:38] <dmcglone1> It was in the repos actually
[06:40] <dmcglone1> Ok I've got to lay down. Back is aching
[06:41] <dmcglone1> So I'm out for the night
[06:41] <dmcglone1> G'night all
[06:45] <Unit193> I didn' think it was... Ah well!
[13:02] <dmcglone> http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/06/03/sony.pictures.hacked.mashable/index.html
[17:20] <paultag> Cheri703: I got a Nook STR
[17:21] <Cheri703> \o/
[17:21] <paultag> Cheri703: if you want to make friends, I'm my IRC name @gmail
[17:21] <Cheri703> what do you think of it?
[17:21] <Cheri703> ok, I'm the same :)
[17:21] <Cheri703> I don't have the social stuff turned on at the moment, but next time I turn on wifi I will :)
[17:21] <Cheri703> get the newest version of calibre, from the site
[17:22] <Cheri703> use the binary thinger
[17:36] <paultag> Cheri703: it's pretty cool
[17:36] <paultag> Cheri703: I dig
[17:50] <canthus13> Unit193: Bah. If I'm gonna spin my own openbox/Ubuntu ISO, I've gotta go back and figure out what I installed manually. :(
[17:55] <Cheri703> finished my book, now have to clean living room...real live client coming over later!
[17:57] <Unit193> canthus13: Sweet! That's the hard part (I would still have the tars in random spots)
[17:59]  * canthus13 really needs to set up a test system to do this. :/
[18:03] <Unit193> canthus13: I would really try that remix (If not on hardware, a VM)
[18:06] <canthus13> :D
[18:31] <Unit193> canthus13: How much RAM is it using on startup?
[18:32] <canthus13> ~6% of 4GB.
[19:12] <paultag> Cheri703: what's the name of the local app for the nook? I want to purge out those default books :)
[19:12] <Cheri703> oh, you have to do that from the website: nook.com and log in using the stuff you put in when you registered
[19:12] <paultag> Cheri703: thanks :0
[19:12] <paultag> sorry, :) *
[19:12] <Cheri703> and calibre is the computer app to load stuff
[19:13] <Cheri703> but the version in the repos is older
[19:13] <Cheri703> so get it from their site, and it will recognize it
[19:13] <paultag> Cheri703: thanks :)
[19:13] <Cheri703> yep
[19:14] <paultag> Cheri703: I'll file a bug with Debian letting them know it's out of date and try and sync it
[19:14] <Cheri703> well, I'm on 10.10
[19:14] <paultag> Cheri703: yeah, but we pull from Debian
[19:14] <Cheri703> kk
[19:14] <Cheri703> the newest version does run on 10.10 fine, just...not in the repo :/
[19:15]  * Unit193 adds getdeb because Ubuntu updates too slow
[19:15] <paultag> booo
[19:15] <paultag> unsupported third partyyy
[19:15] <Unit193> boooo! Programs last updated 3 years ago or not in the repo at all!
[19:16] <paultag> Cheri703: what's your version?
[19:16] <paultag> Unit193: then file a bug and someone will include it
[19:16] <paultag> Unit193: or update it
[19:16] <paultag> Unit193: it's really really not that hard
[19:16] <Unit193> paultag: Packaging isn't easy...
[19:16] <paultag> Cheri703: I see 0.8.2+dfsg-1
[19:16] <paultag> Unit193: it is, I do it.
[19:17] <Cheri703> the version I got from the site is 0.8.4, version in the repo is 0.7.18
[19:17] <paultag> Cheri703: 11.04 will have the new copy already :)
[19:17] <Cheri703> on 10.10
[19:17] <Cheri703> yeah, probably
[19:17] <paultag> Cheri703: you can dget the deb if you'd like
[19:17] <Cheri703> there were dependency things
[19:17] <paultag> i'm doing that :)
[19:17] <Cheri703> I tried that
[19:17] <Cheri703> a bunch of python dependencies
[19:17] <paultag> Cheri703: I'll backport it to my PPA
[19:18] <Cheri703> and some of them said they'd break things if I updated them
[19:18] <paultag> hehe
[19:18] <Cheri703> I tried using a different ppa and it didn't even show up in synaptic or anything, it was supposed to be 0.8.2
[19:18] <Cheri703> for maveric
[19:18] <Cheri703> k
[19:18] <paultag> Cheri703: I'm backporting to natty. I'll see about maverick while I'm at it
[19:19] <Cheri703> this was where I tried to get it: https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/calibre/+packages
[19:19] <Cheri703> I just did the binary install from the calibre site and it works fine
[19:22] <paultag> yeah I guess build-deps are iffy
[19:22] <Cheri703> yeah :/
[19:30] <paultag> Cheri703: it's not showing my bousers manual on it
[19:30] <paultag> sed s/bo//g
[19:30] <Cheri703> your what user manual?
[19:30] <paultag> Cheri703: the one that comes on there
[19:30] <paultag> Cheri703: I don't want it :)
[19:30] <Cheri703> I got bo {symbol box} {symbol box} users manual
[19:30] <Cheri703> oh, yeah, I don't know how to get rid of those :/
[19:31] <paultag> dang
[19:39] <paultag> 'bout to load up some PDFs and test
[22:58] <jgould> So,  i'm bored and am thinking about trying Debian...
[23:00] <skellat> Why?
[23:01] <jgould> because I'm bored
[23:06] <canthus13> jgould: that'll likely give you more headaches than ubuntu as far as sane defaults go.
[23:07] <jgould> It won't boot on the Mini without some tweaking...
[23:22] <canthus13> If you're looking for something to fight with, it should suit your purposes. :)
[23:22] <skrappjaw> Debian is different
[23:24] <skrappjaw> i should say it is different in a sense if you started with ubuntu. Kindof a pain in the butt at first for me.
[23:25] <skrappjaw> Nautilus doesnt like to run as root for me on debian6.
[23:26] <skrappjaw> I guess as I get better hardware and more experience i'll be ok with it.
[23:27] <canthus13> Watch out... 'root' is a dirty word around ubuntu folks.
[23:28]  * skrappjaw isnt politically correct.
[23:28] <skrappjaw> :P
[23:28] <skrappjaw> been thinking about enabling root usr in my ubuntu
[23:32]  * jgould looks into a custom ROM or rooting his new phone already...
[23:33] <canthus13> jgould: geek.
[23:34] <canthus13> jgould: yer a bit slow, though... I'd have rooted it in the first 10 minutes. :)
[23:38] <jgould> I have to figure out how to root this phone, and I want a copy of the stock ROM before I load a custom...
[23:43] <canthus13> jgould: If I'm going to screw with stuff like that, I get the protection plan.  If I screw it up, I step on it and return it. :)
[23:44] <jgould> I should be able to load a diffrent ROM if I fucking want.  (or load the Amazon App Store) if I want it (AT&T blocks the install of it...)
[23:49] <jgould> Don't the phone vendors have to release the ROM's under the GPL?
[23:52] <canthus13> Don't think so.
[23:52] <canthus13> The ROMs aren't GPL.. Just the Android code.
[23:53] <canthus13> and the Android code is publicly available.
[23:54] <jgould> So how the hell do people get the Roms that they install (or the stock roms from thier devices?)