[00:46] wow... that was a random thunderstorm... [00:47] * Unit193 didn't get one... [00:47] oh... we did [00:48] Also, Ubuntu just pissed me off on the laptop [00:49] ...better than pissed on me... [00:49] So what did it do or not do? [00:57] Well, ping timeouts are not cool I guess... [00:58] That was his server... [00:58] That means router cutout [00:59] Well, nasty weather was on the move earlier [01:06] * skellat burps [01:10] * skrappjaw is ready for more bad weather. [01:11] Just not when I have to tote my equipment out for a gig. [01:14] skrappjaw: What sort of gig? [01:18] i play bass and sing. [01:19] with a band. We have drums, bass, 2 guitars, horns and an organ player. [01:19] we share vocal duties among us so no one person gets worn out. [01:29] Cool [01:30] wazzup ppl ;-) [01:30] wake up its the troll :-) [01:32] jammin some tom waits [01:32] I'm awake...most others are enjoying the weather... [01:32] we just had a pretty bad storm [01:33] where are you dmcglonel [01:33] ? [01:33] it blew over pretty quick though. [01:33] Columbus skrappjaw [01:34] Ordered a pizza while it was storming and the guy was like, we'll be there as soon as we can thats how bad it was [01:35] wish it would hurry and get here, I'm so dang hungary [01:37] ic [01:38] ya. just checked the radar. we are in for it tonight. there is a storm that is building from indianapolis to toledo. I'm in mansfield. Just north of you. [01:39] Good thing mom is cooking dinner @ home tonight [01:42] I would have cooked but I'm still down with my back [01:43] I asked my wife what was for dinner when I got home and she said, whatever you can find, so I found the phone number for the pizza place :-) [02:00] I wrote in teh gopherspace: http://ur1.ca/4cls5 [02:01] gopher? [02:01] Yep [02:01] Heh. I remember when gopher was and the web wasn't. [02:02] So do I...I was in junior high at the time [02:02] * canthus13 was in college. [02:03] For a lightweight protocol, Gopher does plenty [02:03] Yup. I wasted hours and hours exploring gopher... [02:04] Bah. I wish I could find documentation on cairo compositor's plugins... [02:04] * dmcglone1 was just getting accustom to walking with a walker ;-) [02:05] dmcglone1: Eh? I thought you were older than me... :/ [02:06] man page is useless... [02:06] I don't think I am, I needed the walker after my wife broke my legs for sitting on the computer all the time and not cutting the grass... [02:06] * dmcglone1 is 39, will be 40 in October [02:06] Thought so. [02:07] About 3 years older. [02:07] Ah shux, I thought I was the youngest one here ;-/ [02:08] canthus13: I thought you were older... [02:08] Oh lord, I ju [02:08] grrrr [02:08] I just found out, I've got about 6 people on their way to visit :-/ [02:09] Unit193: Heh. [02:09] dmcglone1: Answer the door naked. they'll leave. [02:09] lol canthus [02:09] IRC: The last bastion of sound advice... [02:09] dmcglone1: It would work... [02:09] Unit193: How old did you think I am? [02:09] * canthus13 likes to think that he doesn't act his age... [02:09] Looks like I'm gonna be DJ'ing tonight [02:10] canthus13: In the 40's (Maybe very early 50's) [02:10] ...you asked... [02:10] well canthus13 think about it, look where we are, so neither of us do ;-) [02:10] Geez. [02:10] dmcglone1: True.... [02:11] * Unit193 is also bad at guessing age... [02:11] * canthus13 still has a good 3 years 'til the 11th anniversary of his 29th birthday. [02:11] canthus13: we really need to grow up... LOL [02:11] dmcglone1: I refuse. [02:11] me too :-) [02:12] I guess we are going through our midlife crisis a tad bit early... ;-) [02:12] * canthus13 needs to find freakin' documentation for cairo plugins.. 20 freaking plugins, no docs. :/ [02:13] skellat: what do *YOU* know about cairo-compmgr plugins? [02:13] Bupkis [02:13] Nada [02:13] Nothing [02:14] nuts. I'll still blame you for the lack of documentation. :( [02:14] That's okay. [02:15] Okie dokie guys, I gotta go for a while, they want to karaoke and I have to hook my computer up to the tv :-/ [02:16] I guess I'll hang out and pester everyone some other time.. LOL [03:24] Cheri703: Got pics from sully at Fort Polk... and eating a crawfish dinner. :) [03:25] ha, nice [03:25] canthus13: Is the newist Dr Who TBC? [03:27] I would guess it's good... [03:36] Unit193: Haven't watched it yet.... Wife's doing homework and she'd kill me if I watch it without her. [04:02] canthus13: you're a smart man... [04:02] at least sometimes ;) [04:02] Cheri703: thpthpthpthp. [04:02] happy wife happy life and all [04:02] Heh. [04:02] my husband........has not entirely grasped this concept [04:03] Reminds me... I need to copy it to the media server. [04:03] * Cheri703 has read 3 books in 2 days...again [04:03] except these were on the nook \o/ [04:04] I contemplated starting another, but am catching up on some online-ish things atm. I am still procrastinating that video project though :/ [04:04] Heh. [04:05] I'm over it. I just don't want to deal with it anymore [04:05] oh, here's a question that may save me some effort in actually *looking* [04:05] do pretty much all modern dvd players play any type of burnable dvd? or are they still -r +r specific? [04:07] It's pretty much hit or miss iirc. [04:07] :/ [04:07] client wants these videos put on dvd so they can watch them, currently they're using their ps2 as a dvd player (non-slim), and I know *my* ps2 won't recognize burned disks at all [04:08] and they said they may be buying a dvd player at some point in the future, so...it's pretty futile to put these on dvd, eh? [04:08] ...Prolly. [04:08] DVD players are dirt cheap, though. [04:10] -_- [04:10] this lady is NOT technologically inclined...at all [04:10] Ah. Might wanna make her a flip-book, then. [04:10] I want to just give her the files and be done with it, but...bah [04:41] hey Cheri703 [04:41] Cheri703: I've been saving up and I think I'm doing the nook thing. Have you got yours? [04:42] also heyya canthus13 :) [04:42] ... [04:42] Unit193! :) [04:42] paultag: ;) [04:45] yep [04:45] sorry, was in the other room [04:45] it's pretty sweet [04:45] jesusfreke in #nookdevs has it booting from some other something already, he took his apart last night :) [04:45] it's not *rooted* but it's progress [04:45] paultag: ^^ [04:46] I've read 3 books in under 20 hours, and that's including about 8 hours of sleep :) [04:47] probably going to start another tonight... [04:47] Cheri703: np :) [04:47] Cheri703: nice!! :) [04:47] let me pop over [04:48] he updated the nookdevs site with processor info about it [04:48] Cheri703: :) [04:48] Cheri703: I'll see if he says anything to that [04:48] I'm really enjoying it [04:49] Cheri703: any downers about it (besides the lack of 3G) [04:49] Cheri703: Overall good time with the device so far? [04:49] heyya skellat [04:49] uhm, has the crappy nook file navigation/sorting, though this one lets you browse by file, but other than that, nothing I've seen so far [04:49] it is nice having multiple ways of changing pages [04:49] tap, swipe, or hw buttons [04:49] mm? [04:49] ah, nice [04:50] o/ skellat [04:50] yeah, I am really liking it [04:50] Cheri703: I really want to be able to get it digesting RSS [04:50] if I can do that then I'm golden [04:50] I think it probably can, probably a function of calibre (which, btw, there's a nice newer version that recognizes the new nook) [04:51] you could join #calibre and/or look on their site if you have questions about getting that working with feeds [04:51] paultag: Use rawdog to glom the output of your feeds then convert the resultant HTML to whatever format you want [04:51] See, for example, http://erielookingproductions.info/Feeds.html [04:51] skellat: actually other way around [04:51] skellat: I have tons of raw data, I'm putting it into one RSS feed, then I want to digest that on a tablet [04:52] Hmm. [04:52] skellat: so I'm jacking data from all kinds of sources and digesting it into a format I want on a tablet like the nook :) [04:52] Yahoo! Pipes in the mix at all? [04:52] such as git repos, server jobs etc :) [04:52] skellat: nosir. Mostly home-brew [04:53] I'd still use rawdog to transmogrify the RSS into HTML which would be an intermediate step to converting to EPUB [04:53] mmhum [04:53] That's how Amazon's Digital Text Platform basically works as they want indy publishers to upload in HTML for them to transmogrify for Kindle usage [04:53] barf [04:54] that should be a local app [04:54] * skellat recognizes he is listed in the Kindle store in a few places [04:54] sweet :) [04:54] I just have the wifi turned off, because I am only loading stuff from the computer. also paultag, when you get it, go on the b&n site to delete the crappy sample books and such from your "account" and then refresh it [04:54] paultag: It definitely should be a local app. Considering the mix of what Amazon provides, especially with EC2, that's really not a high priority for them. [04:54] Cheri703: oh? [04:54] skellat: aye [04:55] yeah, you have your "account" on the site, where you can manage books you've purchased from them, it comes preloaded with "samples" and you can't delete them locally [04:55] Cheri703: how's it sync with Ubuntu? [04:55] Cheri703: Ah, sweet. I see, cool [04:55] fine, shows up as flash storage [04:55] so it's managed via browser, cool [04:55] Cheri703: hummmm [04:55] books straight from b&n are [04:55] I'm curious if Banshee could plop a/v files on the Nook [04:55] the newer calibre recognizes it at connection [04:56] the new nook has no a/v capability [04:56] Crap [04:56] Cheri703: ah, what a bummer [04:56] * skellat puts on the private-practice evil librarian-type hat [04:56] not even audio, which the old one apparently had [04:56] Cheri703: crud. Now I'm wondering if a color is a better buy [04:56] I'm sure you could store the files on there, but you can't play them [04:56] 3G is pretty critical [04:56] but I don't like the idea of a backlight [04:56] color has no 3g either afaik [04:57] ach, really? [04:57] Way too many blue sky thinkers in the publishing biz have claimed that a/v content in ebooks was essential. I'm shocked that Barnes & Noble produced effectively a tablet computer without a/v capability instead of a futuristic e-reader [04:57] yup [04:57] kindle and old nook have 3g [04:57] but kindle has no epub [04:57] which was a must for me [04:58] Until June 30th, 3G remains useless here in Ashtabula County [04:58] skellat: this thing is pretty straightforward E READER, nothing else [04:58] which is fine by me [04:58] Cheri703: How much did it cost? [04:58] $140+tax [04:59] Yikes [04:59] humm. [04:59] paultag: Oh Hi. [04:59] skellat: that's not too bad for a full android platform [04:59] heyya canthus13 [04:59] paultag: But as Cheri703 noted, it is an ereader only [04:59] well, it runs android 2.1 [05:00] just e-ink screen and no audio support [05:00] skellat: until you hack it [05:00] so you could actually run android apps, just have to be aware of e-ink limitations [05:00] Cheri703: that's not a problem if I write the app for it [05:00] :) [05:00] paultag: For that cost I could pick up ten hardbacks for the collection here [05:01] skellat: yeah, but I need a book that can stay updated with info on all my F/OSS projects [05:01] I'm a pretty fast reader, so libraries are a HUGE hassle for me...I'm in there every few days returning/restocking, so I don't read...I ENJOY reading, but it's a big hassle. so this thing is going to be awesome for me :) and as soon as I can get them formatted in a happier way, I will be able to study cert manuals and such (the pdf conversion didn't go as smoothly as hoped) [05:02] Cheri703: can it not do PDFs OTB? [05:02] so, while one *could* purchase many physical books for the same price, *for me* this is a WAY better option [05:02] yeah, but displaying them and stuff...I'm still toying with straight pdf vs converted to epub [05:02] Cheri703: I know. [05:02] it depends on the file [05:02] some show up better than others [05:03] A bluescreen on shutdown... Nice! [05:03] Cheri703: any rhyme or reason?\ [05:04] just based on original format of the pdf [05:04] Unit193: What bluescreened? [05:04] it depends on how the creator did things paultag [05:04] humm [05:04] Cheri703 & paultag: Not all PDFs are the same. Having them tagged makes reflowing better. LibreOffice allows that easily on export to PDF. [05:04] yeah [05:05] skellat: Some crappy OS :P [05:05] but if you're....acquiring a pdf of a book, then sometimes they are unfriendly [05:05] Cheri703: I wonder if I can find an android tablet [05:05] Unit193: At least it isn't the Yellow Screen of Death we get from Time Warner Cable when a channel feed suddenly drops out [05:05] under 300 bucks [05:06] nook color [05:06] Cheri703: IIRC that hardware is a abit old [05:06] I just didn't want backlight :) [05:06] I dunno [05:06] but it's cheap [05:06] true, I don't like backlight [05:06] Cheri703: aye [05:06] ugh, what a decision [05:07] I wonder if it has the same SD setup as the original [05:07] paultag: if you are willing to wait til they get a STABLE root/alternate rom, then I will test whatever you come up with, as long as you promise that if it gets screwed up, you'll replace it and you can have this one :) [05:07] what do you mean? [05:08] Cheri703: the old nooks had a SD card on the board it's self as well as the external one [05:08] no, when the guy opened it up, it's a 2gb flash chip right on the board [05:09] Cheri703: awesome!! What format? [05:09] http://nookdevs.com/Nook_Simple_Touch [05:09] that's as much as he said last night (basically) [05:10] Cheri703: ah bummer it's melted in [05:10] yeah, sorry, that was what I meant [05:10] humm [05:10] I wonder if he has a photo [05:10] ask him, he replied in #nookdevs, that's the guy :) [05:10] if it's a sane format a breakout board will be easy to wire up [05:10] Cheri703: ty :) [05:11] yup :) [05:17] I'm shuffling off to bed. Goodnight y'all. To get any audio in to the podcast, I need it before 6 PM or so Sunday. All you have to do is call 702-714-0397 and Google Voice handles the rest. The machine-generated transcripts are usually hilarious by themselves. ReLoCo updates are especially sought as to what's going on across the state... [05:18] night skrappjaw [05:28] alright, I'm off too [05:28] 'night all [05:28] Adios! [05:31] Whew what a night :-/ [05:32] dmcglone1: you're awake?? Aren't you up waaaaaaaay past your bedtime? [05:33] LOL canthus13 everyone just left my house [05:33] canthus13: I thought it was 11 too... [05:33] dmcglone1: Did you moon them? [05:33] dmcglone1: I thought you turned into a pumpkin or passed out where you stood or something. [05:33] I usually get in bed and watch tv till about 1 or 2 am [05:33] LOL [05:34] I usually come in here a while before I hit the hay, and even though tonight is a later night, I don't break my routine.. LOL [05:35] everyone came over unexpectedly [05:35] Where is jgould anyway? He's part of the late night crew... [05:36] while they were singing karaoke, I thought about sneaking in the computer room and hanging out, but I didn't want to be rude :-/ [05:36] * Unit193 would have do it... [05:37] well I'm wide awake thats for sure [05:38] It's more exciting hanging in here talking to myself than listening them howl on a microphone... LOL [05:39] Anybody ever heard of the band DC Talk? [05:39] Use cotton [05:39] dmcglone1: Yeah [05:40] Rick May of DC talk is my cousin [05:41] thats why there's so much freakin music around here all the time [05:41] No freakin wonder I'm deaf ;-) [05:52] gonna get me so cereal. I eat breakfast before I go to bed so I don't have to do it in the morning. [05:52] But then you don't get to eat in the morning... [05:54] I hate eating in the morning [05:54] too tired, too lazy and it makes me sick [05:55] But there is no food... [05:55] I don't know why, but i've always ate cereal before bed [05:55] I guess you could say it's my midnight snack [05:56] I eat at night too, but I also eat in the morning... [05:56] I have never in as long as I can remember eating in the morning [05:59] Wow... I'm listening to the entire Nirvana Nevermind album for the first time in probably 15 years. [06:00] cool, I haven't heard them in ages either [06:01] canthus13: like slipknot? [06:03] Dang that got me thinking of all that old school music [06:03] Suicidal Tendencies "you can't bring me down" [06:04] dmcglone1: slipknot? nah.. ST rocked, tough. :) [06:05] yeah ST. remember "SOD" stormtroopers of death? or "MOD" Method of destruc‭tion? [06:06] MOD yes. SOD no. [06:06] bad ass bands! [06:07] RUN DMC? [06:08] Damn man how I miss High School now [06:15] Heh. [06:15] * canthus13 is off to bed... weird to be hitting the sack before dmcglone. [06:16] Heh [06:16] He's on after 1am!! [06:16] Unit193: I don't think it's really him. [06:16] Anway... 'nite. [06:17] canthus13: You may be on to something! [06:17] Have a good one! [06:17] I will. No kids. :) [06:17] LOL [06:18] Why the heck they don't have plowshare in the repos (Even GetDeb) I will never know... [06:18] who knows when I'll decide to hit the hay tonight, but I'm sensing it'll be soon. [06:18] what is plowshare? [06:19] Cheri703 is gone, jgould is MIA and canthus13 is down for the night [06:19] hmm? [06:19] http://code.google.com/p/plowshare/ [06:19] Cheri703 isn't gone... [06:19] * Cheri703 is reading [06:19] y'know, books n stuff [06:20] \o/ for nook! [06:20] She has DND on... [06:20] How much llike a book is it? [06:20] dnd? [06:20] reading quality: very much, convenience? way better [06:21] Do Not Disturb [06:21] I hardly ever read because when I do, I can't set it down and it takes my whole day and night [06:21] dmcglone1: I've started on book 4 since yesterday around 10pm... [06:21] Unit193: I have no knowledge of having that on..maybe because I was idle? [06:21] it's hard to set em down once you get going isn't it [06:22] yup [06:22] Cheri703: I was just saying that you did, nothing was telling me that [06:22] John Grisham is my favorite author [06:22] ah [06:23] dmcglone1: Did you have a look? [06:23] ping me if you need me :) [06:27] the file sharing with from the command line? [06:27] yeah [06:27] with all the recent lawsuits and stuff, I'm afraid to use file sharing [06:29] It downloads from things like megaupload, rapidshare, 4shared, mediafire (That doesn't have to be illegal) [06:30] Limewire did the same thing and they just recently got shut down [06:33] Those are hosting sites, LimeWire was a P2P client... [06:34] Ah yes, very true [06:36] ...and it didn't run on linux (FrostWire does) [06:37] :D [06:38] I used Limewire on linux exclusivly [06:38] It was in the repos actually [06:40] Ok I've got to lay down. Back is aching [06:41] So I'm out for the night [06:41] G'night all [06:45] I didn' think it was... Ah well! [13:02] http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/06/03/sony.pictures.hacked.mashable/index.html [17:20] Cheri703: I got a Nook STR [17:21] \o/ [17:21] Cheri703: if you want to make friends, I'm my IRC name @gmail [17:21] what do you think of it? [17:21] ok, I'm the same :) [17:21] I don't have the social stuff turned on at the moment, but next time I turn on wifi I will :) [17:21] get the newest version of calibre, from the site [17:22] use the binary thinger [17:36] Cheri703: it's pretty cool [17:36] Cheri703: I dig [17:50] Unit193: Bah. If I'm gonna spin my own openbox/Ubuntu ISO, I've gotta go back and figure out what I installed manually. :( [17:55] finished my book, now have to clean living room...real live client coming over later! [17:57] canthus13: Sweet! That's the hard part (I would still have the tars in random spots) [17:59] * canthus13 really needs to set up a test system to do this. :/ [18:03] canthus13: I would really try that remix (If not on hardware, a VM) [18:06] :D [18:31] canthus13: How much RAM is it using on startup? [18:32] ~6% of 4GB. [19:12] Cheri703: what's the name of the local app for the nook? I want to purge out those default books :) [19:12] oh, you have to do that from the website: nook.com and log in using the stuff you put in when you registered [19:12] Cheri703: thanks :0 [19:12] sorry, :) * [19:12] and calibre is the computer app to load stuff [19:13] but the version in the repos is older [19:13] so get it from their site, and it will recognize it [19:13] Cheri703: thanks :) [19:13] yep [19:14] Cheri703: I'll file a bug with Debian letting them know it's out of date and try and sync it [19:14] well, I'm on 10.10 [19:14] Cheri703: yeah, but we pull from Debian [19:14] kk [19:14] the newest version does run on 10.10 fine, just...not in the repo :/ [19:15] * Unit193 adds getdeb because Ubuntu updates too slow [19:15] booo [19:15] unsupported third partyyy [19:15] boooo! Programs last updated 3 years ago or not in the repo at all! [19:16] Cheri703: what's your version? [19:16] Unit193: then file a bug and someone will include it [19:16] Unit193: or update it [19:16] Unit193: it's really really not that hard [19:16] paultag: Packaging isn't easy... [19:16] Cheri703: I see 0.8.2+dfsg-1 [19:16] Unit193: it is, I do it. [19:17] the version I got from the site is 0.8.4, version in the repo is 0.7.18 [19:17] Cheri703: 11.04 will have the new copy already :) [19:17] on 10.10 [19:17] yeah, probably [19:17] Cheri703: you can dget the deb if you'd like [19:17] there were dependency things [19:17] i'm doing that :) [19:17] I tried that [19:17] a bunch of python dependencies [19:17] Cheri703: I'll backport it to my PPA [19:18] and some of them said they'd break things if I updated them [19:18] hehe [19:18] I tried using a different ppa and it didn't even show up in synaptic or anything, it was supposed to be 0.8.2 [19:18] for maveric [19:18] k [19:18] Cheri703: I'm backporting to natty. I'll see about maverick while I'm at it [19:19] this was where I tried to get it: https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/calibre/+packages [19:19] I just did the binary install from the calibre site and it works fine [19:22] yeah I guess build-deps are iffy [19:22] yeah :/ [19:30] Cheri703: it's not showing my bousers manual on it [19:30] sed s/bo//g [19:30] your what user manual? [19:30]