[00:00] <Guest70679> how to register user in here ???
[00:00] <ikeakan> Is there a way to force an upgrade of Ubuntu 8.10 whose servers are no longer available?
[00:00] <phong_> what is up guys?
[00:00] <dzup> its a joke, relax
[00:00] <pfifo> !register | Guest70679
[00:00] <phong_> ikeakan, what is up?
[00:00] <phong_> pfifo, hi, what is up?
[00:00] <Jordan_U> !eol | ikeakan
[00:00] <pfifo> hi phong_
[00:00] <Guest70679> no, i mean with another nick. i dont want <Guest70679> as user TT
[00:01] <phong_> pfifo, what is up?
[00:01] <ikeakan> Jordan_U: I understand that it's EOL. The problem is that I don't have a cd or dvd burner, so I can't just install 11.04. I need to somehow force it to upgrade or do an installation of 11.04 without cd.
[00:02] <Guest70679> register
[00:02] <Guest70679> register | xxx
[00:02] <Flannel> ikeakan: See the last link in that factoid
[00:02] <rww> Guest70679: go read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration
[00:02] <Flannel> ikeakan: (that's the thing that ubottu said to you)
[00:02] <Guest70679> oke2
[00:02] <Guest70679> i will try
[00:03] <ikeakan> Flannel, Jordan_U: My apologies. I didn't read the last part and jumped to conclusions. Sorry.
[00:03] <Flannel> ikeakan: No worries.
[00:03] <ikeakan> Flannel: Jordan_U: Thanks for your help.
[00:03] <Jordan_U> ikeakan: np.
[00:03] <Jordan_U> ikeakan: You're welcome.
[00:03] <Lown> Hey Guy
[00:04] <Lown> Va bene ?
[00:05] <Scottamunga> hey what's the package name for the volume control applet in gnome panel?
[00:05] <Random832> Scottamunga: i think it's part of the panel now
[00:05] <Random832> since it's treated as a menu/notification icon thing instead of an applet
[00:06] <Scottamunga> Random832: oh, I knew it was in natty, now that they're using unity
[00:06] <Scottamunga> I'm still using 2.32
[00:06] <Scottamunga> (on mint 11)
[00:07] <Random832> i think it might have been before that - along with the network status and battery
[00:07] <Random832> and weird envelope thingy
[00:07] <Scottamunga> oh, I installed/uninstalled kde, and now the applet is gone
[00:07] <Scottamunga> lol
[00:08] <Scottamunga> thank ya
[00:08] <RevSpecies116> Scottamunga: perhaps if you: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    The notification may come back?
[00:08] <Kasjopaja2311> mh
[00:10] <Scottamunga> will try that Random832
[00:10] <Scottamunga> ttyl
[00:12] <silit_gembuk> halo
[00:13] <silit_gembuk> what r u talking about?
[00:15] <djiefo> Hi, I want to install Adobe Shockwave Player, is it possible through xubuntu 11.04?
[00:15] <ErrorException> @djiefo I believe that adobe develops for linux in general, so maybe.
[00:16] <lazart> djief: look for "flash player" in the software center
[00:17] <nosmelc> Why is it that LibreOffice has Base greyed out for me?  The LibreOffice channel says it's not a LO problem
[00:17] <silit_gembuk> OPEN OFFICE vs LIBRE OFFICE, which one is better????
[00:18] <lazart> djief: or flash plugin nonfree
[00:18] <lazart> djief: but you have to enable restricted repositories
[00:18] <nosmelc> silit_gembuk: there seems to be more development for LO right now.  I switched to it from OO
[00:18] <rww> nosmelc: because you don't have it installed, perhaps? Try installing the libreoffice-base package.
[00:19] <rww> (it's not installed by default)
[00:19] <djiefo> ErrorException, i don't find any link on shockwave main site
[00:19] <nosmelc> rww: ohh ok.  I thought it would be there by default.  Thanks
 i'm using LO,, but it slowly rather tahn OO
[00:21] <ErrorException> @djiefo Do you have Wine? You could install the windows version through it.
[00:22] <djiefo> ErrorException,  it will works fine in Firefox?
[00:23] <ErrorException> @djiefo Maybe not in Firefox, i found a linux shockwave player called Gnash. Try looking into that
[00:23] <Jon--> I changed my settings back to default in Compiz and now I have multiple workspaces but they are all considered to be on the same desktop (ie from wmctrl -l). I use scripts that rely on moving open applications between workspaces, and they are now broken. Any ideas?
[00:24] <djiefo> ErrorException,  i'm trying to play to isketch through firefox but I need Shocjwave player... With gnash, will I be able to go to isketch.net?
[00:25] <captainjamie> Hello everyone! Does anyone know if Ubuntu will run on a tablet with multi-touch?
[00:26] <RevSpecies116> captainjamie: yes, and no
[00:26] <captainjamie> what's the yes?
[00:26] <ErrorException> @djiefo I do not have a shockwave player, let me try gnash out first.
[00:26] <RevSpecies116> Have you jailbroken your tablet?
[00:26] <captainjamie> I don't have one yet, I'm buying one for Uni
[00:26] <captainjamie> wondering which to buy...
[00:27] <RevSpecies116> Well, if you have an Android based tablet [when you buy it], the best community to answer that question is XDA
[00:27] <captainjamie> XDA? google...
[00:28] <RevSpecies116> www.xda-developers.com/ <-- That link, captainjamie
[00:28] <captainjamie> Ah thanks!
[00:29] <RevSpecies116> No troubles :) Oh, and captainjamie if you have a good Android smartphone [like a Nexus 1], you can install Ubuntu on that, too
[00:29] <RevSpecies116> But that is next to useless, due to the size of the screen - but non-the-less it can be done ;)
[00:29] <captainjamie> like this you mean? http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-desire-hd-booting-ubuntu-natively/ this is a good site
[00:30] <captainjamie> but on an android tablet you think it'd work and be ok?
[00:30] <RevSpecies116> Yep, captainjamie :) But there is still some concern that is a 'fake' - most Ubuntu running on Android is via Chroot
[00:31] <captainjamie> Chroot?
[00:31] <RevSpecies116> Ubuntu CAN run, and has been shown to run, but via chroot, not nativly
[00:31] <RevSpecies116> I don't know chroot, sorry
[00:31] <EastDallas> is there a repository that has older versions of the jre, or do I have to build them?
[00:33] <captainjamie> What's so bad about chroot? (or should I just spend some more time on wikipedia?)
[00:34] <DevilSolution> hi
[00:34] <RevSpecies116> Nothing 'bad' at all about chroot or chmod - but you just have to be able to have root access to your tablet - and that means voiding your warrenty
[00:34] <silit_gembuk> wow,,, really? ubuntu can run on smartphone?
[00:34] <RevSpecies116> Yep, silit_gembuk :)
[00:34] <silit_gembuk> how?
[00:34] <captainjamie> oh that's fine, i'd void warranty to get ubuntu!
[00:34] <silit_gembuk> my phone is symbian, can it?
[00:35] <silit_gembuk> <<<<< now listening : Slaves of Pain ^^
[00:35] <RevSpecies116> Android only, silit_gembuk
[00:36] <silit_gembuk> ooo
[00:36] <EastDallas> OK, how about this...can someone tell me how to install an older version of the JRE.  I've tried multiple times, but still only have one choice when I sudo update-alternatives --config java
[00:36] <silit_gembuk> how bout galaxy mini? it android too...
[00:36] <Jon--> I changed my settings back to default in Compiz and now I have multiple workspaces but they are all considered to be on the same desktop (ie from wmctrl -l). I use scripts that rely on moving open applications between workspaces, and they are now broken. Any ideas?
[00:36] <RevSpecies116> silit_gembuk: check www.xda-developers.com/ for your phone and ask there :)
[00:37] <captainjamie> So can you (or anyone) recommend a cheap but good tablet?
[00:37] <djiefo> How can I use Shockwave Player in firefox... Shockwave Player as no linux version
[00:37] <KM0201> djiefo: you can't
[00:37] <RevSpecies116> EastDallas: You either have to compile your own version that is the 'older' one, OR find a repo that has what you want from there\
[00:37] <silit_gembuk> all phone that listed in xdadeveloper can be install ubuntu????
[00:37] <KM0201> !shockwave | DJ_A|DJ_A
[00:38] <KM0201> oops... see above djiefo
[00:38] <RevSpecies116> silit_gembuk: Best ask that question on the XDA forum :)
[00:38] <EastDallas> OK...I've compiled older versions multiple times in /opt and still only get one option when I run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[00:38] <EastDallas> RevSpecies116:
[00:39] <EastDallas> RevSpecies116: one option of the sun jre
[00:39] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, EastDallas... The solution to that is beyond me then :(
[00:39] <djiefo> KM0201,  ok thx
[00:40] <EastDallas> there's usually over 1000 people in this channel, I can't believe no one here knows
[00:40] <EastDallas> thanks anyway RevSpecies116
[00:40] <RevSpecies116> EastDallas: No troubles - good hunting for a solution :)
[00:41] <djiefo> KM0201, i've seen this website and I dont understand the part it says to Add the following two lines to the end of the file... add to what?
[00:41] <solteiro2> Hi I need help to create a User in my ubuntu linux to let the folks at my house or using a password and tals with a friend ... I wonder why I created using the command sudo adduser
[00:41] <solteiro2> and when he went to boot error gave so much! pq this as I do?
[00:42] <KM0201> djiefo: when you run the previous command "gksudo gedit /etc/mozpluggerrc"  it will open up a text file... add them to that file
[00:42] <RevSpecies116> djiefo: The end of this file: /etc/mozpluggerrc
[00:42] <c2tarun> solteiro2, why did you used adduser? and I guess there is nothing like adduser, why didn't you use GUI?
[00:43]  * c2tarun hell there is also an adduser :P
[00:44] <c2tarun> solteiro2, but adduser is for adding user to a group and not for creating accoutns
[00:44] <Jon--> I changed my settings back to default in Compiz and now I have multiple workspaces but they are all considered to be on the same desktop (ie from wmctrl -l). I use scripts that rely on moving open applications between workspaces, and they are now broken. Any ideas?
[00:44] <ImDexter> can anyone help me with springs? I have compiled it, but, even bein GIT, I cannot connect to any online game
[00:44] <bazhang> Jon--, try in #compiz as well
[00:44] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: springRTS?
[00:45] <ImDexter> yes
[00:45] <RevSpecies116> Have you checked for a solution: http://springrts.com/phpbb/ <-- there, ImDexter
[00:45] <solteiro2> how do I can create accounts?!
[00:46] <RevSpecies116> solteiro2: Ubuntu version?
[00:46] <Flannel> solteiro2: adduser, or Users and Groups in the gui.
[00:46] <djiefo> KM0201, http://paste.ubuntu.com/618675/
[00:46] <solteiro2> then what the correct command to create an account
[00:46] <KM0201> solars: menu/users and groups?
[00:46] <solteiro2> Linux solteiro2 2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 19:00:26 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:46] <KM0201> djiefo: did the gksudo command, open a text file?
[00:46] <c2tarun> Flannel, adduser is for adding users to groups and not for creating accounts
[00:46] <RevSpecies116> solteiro2: Unknown, but there is a GUI solution. Do you not have access to the Ubuntu interface?
[00:47] <KM0201> it should have
[00:47] <djiefo> KM0201,  no
[00:47] <solteiro2> yes
[00:47] <KM0201> djiefo: i don't see how it couldn't have
[00:47] <rww> c2tarun: it does both, actually
[00:47] <Flannel> c2tarun: It's for creating accounts and adding users to groups.
[00:47] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: Another thing: ATi or nVidia card while running SpringRTS on Ubuntu?
[00:47] <ImDexter> nvidia
[00:47] <KM0201> djiefo: even if the file didn't exist, it would open a blank file
[00:47] <djiefo> look output above
[00:48] <KM0201> i see the output, but it seems it should stoill open the file.
[00:48] <c2tarun> rww, Flannel : then I guess man page is incomplete :(
[00:48] <bcj1> Are any of the Ubuntu media players actually able to get track info/album art properly?  Tried Sound Juicer and Rhythmbox, but neither understands my CD, even though it's on MusicBrainz
[00:48] <Flannel> c2tarun: See the first two examples in the manpage
[00:48] <djiefo> KM0201,  where its supposed to create a file?
[00:48] <c2tarun> rww but why do they need two commands useradd and adduser for same purpose?
[00:48] <rww> c2tarun: the /first line/ of the manpage is "adduser, addgroup - add a user or group to the system"
[00:48] <Flannel> c2tarun: useradd is low level, adduser is highlevel.
[00:49] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: Sorry for the questions, but they are important :) Nouveau or Proprietary driver for your graphics?
[00:49] <KM0201> djiefo: it should create that /etc/mozpluggercc.. or whatever it ws
[00:49] <c2tarun> Flannel, what do you mean by low and high level in commands?
[00:49] <solteiro2> humm
[00:49] <RevSpecies116> solteiro2: On your top panel, you should have the 'system' menu
[00:49] <KM0201> djiefo: dunno, maybre those instructions don't work w/ 11.04
[00:49] <Flannel> c2tarun: useradd does nothing for you except what you tell it (and only what you tell it), adduser is a bit more userfriendly.
[00:49] <RevSpecies116> And I believe then you goto Administration, solteiro2
[00:50] <RevSpecies116> And then I believe you go to 'Add users and groups'
[00:50] <Flannel> c2tarun: Even higher level would be the GUI version, because it abstracts away even more by default
[00:50] <solteiro2> yeah
[00:50] <solteiro2> ;D
[00:50] <solteiro2> Ty
[00:50] <solteiro2> RevSpecies116, ty
[00:51] <solteiro2> :D
[00:51] <RevSpecies116> solteiro2: No troubles :)
[00:51] <ImDexter> <RevSpecies116, afraid dont understand the question, nvidia driver version 270.41.19
[00:52] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: No troubles, looks like you are running the driver provided by nVidia, and not the opensource driver :)
[00:52] <djiefo> KM0201,  whats /etc/ folder?
[00:52] <djiefo> KM0201,  i dont find it
[00:52] <RevSpecies116> OKies, the only thing I can suggest now, ImDexter is going to the springRTS forum and ask there
[00:53] <RevSpecies116> I know several dev's of springRTS do use ubuntu
, did you install it via synaptic? software sources?
[00:53] <brewster> how do i make it so that the side bar in natty hides when im not using it?
[00:53] <mageranger211> how do u download stuff in ubuntu?
[00:53] <mageranger211> this operating system sucks
[00:53] <bazhang> mageranger211, then dont use it
[00:53] <RevSpecies116> Command line, ImDexter  [that's my comfort zone when installing stuff]
[00:54] <crash0verride> lol what you talking about mage
[00:54] <bazhang> !software > mageranger211
, git? stable tar.gz?
[00:54] <crash0verride> installation is more simple than windows!;p
[00:54] <RevSpecies116> I added the spring repo then did: sudo aptitude install spring  [I use aptitude, dislike apt-get, and will be adding aptitude as an option when 12.04LTS comes around]
[00:54] <Jon--> Where can I find the settings for how many desktops I am using in Ubuntu?
[00:55] <edbian> Jon--: Are you using unity?
, care to share the spring repo? you mean ppa, right?
[00:55] <bazhang> Jon--, workspaces? or the cube thing for compiz
[00:55] <brewster> how do i make it so that the side bar in natty hides when im not using it?
[00:55] <RevSpecies116> Repo is kept up to date, ImDexter - so no need to compile your own springRTS
[00:55] <Jon--> edbian, Ubuntu 10.04 GNOME
[00:55] <RevSpecies116> ppa, yep
[00:55] <edbian> Jon--: Running compiz?
[00:55] <ImDexter> then im going to do the same, <RevSpecies116>
[00:55] <RevSpecies116> Let me go get the ppa I use (straight from the springRTS iki)
[00:55] <Jon--> edbian, Yes
[00:56] <edbian> Jon--: Do you have ccsm?  (This probably doesn't feel like progress but it is)
[00:56] <basilfaulty> hi ubuntu... I just stopped in to say how awesome you are.. that is all
[00:56] <rinkukokiri> anyone know of an app like audiogalaxy for ubuntu ?
[00:56] <Jon--> edbian, the settings manager? Yes. I am asking about DESKTOPS though, not workspaces. AFAIK compiz only changes # of workspaces.
, then I should get rid of my manually compiled spring, right?
[00:57] <edbian> Jon--: ... I'm not sure I know the difference.  What do you mean then?
[00:57] <brewster> rinkukokiri: google osalt
[00:57] <RevSpecies116> Yep, ImDexter
[00:57] <ImDexter> fine <RevSpecies116>, im doing it your way
[00:57] <brewster> stands for open source alternative
[00:57] <Jon--> edbian, Let me explain briefly then, the issue I am having is:
[00:57] <Jon--> I changed my settings back to default in Compiz and now I have multiple workspaces but they are all considered to be on the same desktop (ie from wmctrl -l). I use scripts that rely on moving open applications between workspaces, and they are now broken. Any ideas?
[00:57] <RevSpecies116> :) ImDexter :)
[00:58] <edbian> Jon--: aaaa, very interesting.  I've often wondered about this.
, i have already compiled it twice, to get the same error
[00:58] <Jon--> Someone stated in #compiz : "Jon--: Compiz only uses one desktop", Then asked "Jon--: What do you have set for desktop size in general options?"
[00:58] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: I'll get you the repo - just finding it
[00:58] <RevSpecies116> :)
[00:58] <bazhang> !equivalents > rinkukokiri
[00:59] <RevSpecies116> https://launchpad.net/~spring <--the launchpad page for springRTS [not the repo/ppa] ImDexter
[00:59] <edbian> Jon--: Let me tell you everything I know.  Workspace and Desktop are interchangeable terms.  Gnome has workspaces.  When they wrote compiz they decided (for some reason) to re-implement the workspaces on top of gnome.  They tell gnome there is one and handle things from there.  That is why the gnome-applet can't alter the number of workspaces while compiz is running and why you need to use ccsm to do it.
[00:59] <rinkukokiri> neither message helps
[00:59] <brewster> anyone know how to make the sidebar in unity autohide?
[00:59] <rinkukokiri> thanks though
[01:00] <bazhang> rinkukokiri, there may not be one then
[01:00] <edbian> Jon--: Having said this.  I'm not sure how to get some random 3rd party app to see that there really are e.g. 4 desktops when using compiz.  They will see one.  The gnome-panel applet is a special case I think that the compiz developers took into account?  I'm guessing at this point
[01:00] <Jon--> edbian, they used to see them as unique
[01:00] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:spring/ppa
[01:00] <edbian> Jon--: 'They'  being what?
[01:01] <Jon--> wmctrl -l listed windows on different workspaces as having their different (and proper) desktop ids
[01:01] <Jon--> It's when I went into my settings and changed my Appearance settings that it started to fail on me again
, wait i am still deleting
[01:02] <DevilSolution> using a high definition monitor and got this error trying to install an eclipse package with -f too
[01:02] <DevilSolution> Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
[01:02] <DevilSolution> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:02] <Jon--> Is it possible to have certain compiz plugins working if compiz isn't running? I'd think not.. I don't think I've suddenly enabled it and it wasn't before, pretty sure I've had it on this whole time
[01:02] <RevSpecies116> No troubles, ImDexter  :)
[01:02] <edbian> Jon--: What appearance setting did you change?
[01:02] <bazhang> DevilSolution, pastebin the whole error please
[01:02] <DevilSolution> k
[01:03] <Jon--> edbian, system->preferences->appearance-> visual effects
[01:03] <edbian> Jon--: Oh you turned them on.  In answer to your question.  You cannot have some plugins on without having compiz-core on.
[01:03] <edbian> Jon--: Perhaps wmctrl is controlling the wrong window manager?
[01:04] <Jon--> But some you can?
[01:04] <DevilSolution> http://pastebin.com/fTSxQ0Fs
[01:04] <edbian> Jon--: No.  If any compiz plugin is on then compiz as a whole must be running.
[01:04] <boodieman> brewster - http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity
[01:04] <Jon--> edbian, No, it lists the correct windows, just everything is -1 if it has no physical window (like panel edges) or 0. Nothing else.
[01:04] <edbian> Jon--: There is compiz and there is metacity (up until now we called this 'gnome')  metacity is the actual name of the window manager in gnome
[01:05] <Jon--> It used to be zero indexed through all my workspaces
, I have deleted every spring file found, including my manual compilation, and I have added those 2 ppa lines to my software sources
[01:05] <bazhang> DevilSolution, why the -f ? was there some issue earlier?
[01:06] <bazhang> ImDexter, so sudo apt-get update , then install the package
[01:06] <edbian> Jon--: wmctrl -d   ?
[01:06] <Jon--> edbian, just 0  * DG: 9562x768  VP: 4098,0  WA: 0,28 1366x716  N/A
[01:06] <edbian> Jon--: Mine (on a Debian squeeze system) reports one workspace that is 5120 pixels wide I think
[01:06] <edbian> Jon--: We have similar output.  What (actually) are you trying to do?
[01:06] <DevilSolution> bazhang, eclipse failed to install because it said it needed this package
[01:07] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: if you open a terminal and type   sudo apt-add-repository ppa:spring/ppa
[01:07] <Jon--> edbian, Use wmctrl -R to move a window to my current workspace. Used to work. Now it fails (as everything is on 0)
[01:07] <bazhang> DevilSolution, try purging that package and reinstalling? it seems to be corrupted if that error message is any indication
[01:07] <edbian> Jon--: I see.  Hang on.
[01:07] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: It will add the repo to your sources with out you haveint to edit it, and will get to gpg's too
[01:07] <RevSpecies116> havint = having
[01:08] <notNicolas> Hi everyone. I want to install Ubuntu on a notebook PC currently running windows. When I download Ubuntu from the website, it always downloads the desktop version. Is this version appropriate for notebook PCs?
[01:08] <ImDexter> gpg: requesting key 8670A035 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[01:08] <ImDexter> gpg: key 8670A035: "Launchpad PPA for Spring developers" not changed
[01:08] <ImDexter> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[01:08] <ImDexter> gpg:              unchanged: 1
[01:08] <edbian> Jon--: There must be some way because of the right click menu on the titlebar of an app
[01:08] <bazhang> notNicolas, sure, its one size fits all now
[01:08] <DaGeek247_> notNicolas: it works fine, but netbook version is more adapted to smaller screens
[01:08] <ImDexter> for your command, <RevSpecies116
[01:08] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: the repo is install correctly, then :)
[01:08] <bazhang> DaGeek247_, netbook version is gone.
[01:08] <Jon--> edbian, Agreed.
[01:08] <DaGeek247_> !
[01:08] <DaGeek247_> omgosh!
[01:09] <Jon--> edbian, The only CLI way of doing it that I know o
[01:09] <bazhang> !une > DaGeek247_
[01:09] <Jon--> of is wmctrl*
[01:09] <boodieman> notNicola - Now I think it its Desktop vs Server
[01:09] <DaGeek247_> o
[01:09] <RevSpecies116> Then, as long as you have sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade, you can then do sudo apt-get install spring
[01:09] <DaGeek247_> wow,
[01:10] <notNicolas> Sooo do I get desktop?
[01:10] <boodieman> notNicolas yes
[01:10] <alexCoder> someone uses xubuntu?
[01:10] <notNicolas> Alright then. Thank you.
[01:10] <bazhang> alexCoder, whats the question
[01:10] <paulharrghis> what excuse do I give my friends so I can leave and go play with Ubuntu?
[01:10] <notNicolas> is 64 bit stable?
[01:11] <bazhang> notNicolas, yes
[01:11] <rww> notNicolas: yes
[01:11] <paulharrghis> notNicolas : very
[01:11] <bazhang> paulharrghis, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:11] <notNicolas> why is 32 recommended?
[01:11] <boodieman> notNicolas, I still use the 32bit version
[01:11] <alexCoder> i have a problem D:
[01:11] <rww> notNicolas: because 64-bit computers can run 32-bit Ubuntu, but not the other way around
[01:11] <alexCoder> with my keyboard
[01:11] <RevSpecies116> Also, here: http://springrts.com/wiki/Ubuntu_install ImDexter :)
, im sorry, but what do i have to do after apt get upgrade?
[01:11] <edbian> Jon--: Here's some stuff.  Apparently compiz uses viewports which I guess is different from desktops / workspaces.  http://superuser.com/questions/264281/wmctrl-says-i-have-one-workspace-when-i-actually-have-four
[01:11] <notNicolas> Alright. Thanks.
mean update
[01:11] <alexCoder> why my keyboard changes the configuration all time?
[01:12] <boodieman> notNicolas, you only really need 64bit if you have more than 4GB of RAM
[01:12] <bazhang> alexCoder, no idea, without more info
[01:12] <alexCoder> but then i press Ctrl + Esc and everything is ok
[01:12] <Jon--> edbian, Well, clearly there IS some way of having it working, as I did at one point WITH Compiz, until I modified that setting
[01:12] <paulharrghis> boodieman : I thought it was 3gb
[01:12] <notNicolas> I have 2 lol
[01:12] <notNicolas> but my computer is running 64 bit windodws 7
[01:12] <RevSpecies116> just this, ImDexter: sudo apt-get install spring spring-maps-default
[01:12] <notNicolas> *Windows 7
[01:12] <RevSpecies116> :)
[01:12] <bazhang> paulharrghis, more than 4
[01:13] <boodieman> notNicolas, so is mine
[01:13] <edbian> Jon--: Did you switch the settings in system -> preferences -> apperances from 'None' to 'Extra'  or.... ?
[01:13] <Jon--> edbian, none to Normal
[01:13] <RevSpecies116> But not sure how much that download size is, ImDexter
[01:13] <Jon--> Compiz was running before though, I was using several of the plugins ?
[01:13] <edbian> Jon--:  If it was on 'none' compiz was not on.  Which explains why it was working.
[01:13] <bazhang> alexCoder, here and not PM please
[01:13] <edbian> Jon--: What plugins were you running?
[01:14] <boodieman> notNicolas, if you don't have more than 4GB of RAM you can use either, if you have more you should use 64bit or you won't see all of it
[01:14] <alexCoder> sorry haha
[01:14] <mindwarp> Hi, I have a problem with jsMath. I have installed ttf-jsmath, the latest version (in natty) which supposedly includes all the extra fonts. However it does not include jsMath-cmmib10.ttf -- I downloaded and installed that one manually. I followed the instructions to install new fonts, running mkfontscale, mkfontdir, fc-cache, etc. -- however that font is still not recognized either in firefox or chromium. The font is in the same directory as the other
[01:14] <Jon--> Commands, Viewpoint switcher, desktop wall
[01:14] <alexCoder> who uses Xubuntu 11.04?
[01:14] <notNicolas> Ok, thanks for your help!
[01:14] <RevSpecies116> alexCoder: You need the xbuntu channel
[01:14] <bazhang> !pae
[01:14] <bazhang> boodieman, ^
[01:15] <edbian> Jon--: Can you replicate this?  I'd like to see it set to None while at the same time you use desktop wall.  (then I'd like to see ps -e)
[01:15] <RevSpecies116> alexCoder: #xubuntu
[01:15] <Jon--> edbian, one moment please
[01:15] <alexCoder> there's nobody
[01:15] <edbian> Jon--: sur
[01:15] <zanzee> im having a really weird issue, whenever a client pc sends anything via samba my server locks hard. Is this a know issue?
[01:15] <paulharrghis> besides RAM availability, surely there must be an added benefit of running x86_64 on compatible CPUs, no?
[01:16] <RevSpecies116> alex, if you were running Ubuntu pure, I'm sure we could help
[01:16] <RevSpecies116> But this is the Ubuntu channel, and Xubuntu is a lot different than Ubuntu
[01:16] <mrdeb> is it better to have a separate graphics card or integrated with linux
[01:16] <edbian> paulharrghis: It's more efficient I'm told.
[01:16] <edbian> mrdeb: A separate card almost always is a more powerful chipset
[01:16] <zanzee> @Rev separate only for games and hq video
[01:17] <Jon--> edbian, this is not quite right
[01:17] <Guest65324> greetings  :)
[01:17] <w30> what's #ubuntu-unregged? Is there a #ubuntu-regged?
[01:17] <RevSpecies116> zanzee: Also getting audio to work
[01:17] <edbian> Jon--: please explain
[01:17] <KM0201> !register | w30
[01:17] <zanzee> audio has nothing to do with an external
[01:17] <RevSpecies116> When we say goto system->preferences->sound
[01:17] <boodieman> pae is auto installed if needed on 11.04
[01:17] <RevSpecies116> The xubuntu user goes: CAN'T
[01:17] <zanzee> lots of onboard have hdmi
[01:17] <KM0201> w30: you get kicked there cuz you're not a registered nick, and #ubuntu uses that to prevent problems.
[01:17] <Jon--> my script works again now but the little thing I get when I change workspaces it NOT the same, it's much smaller, probably the Ubuntu default. I'm quite sure I was running compiz window wall before, it looked much nicer.
[01:18] <Jon--> when I changed workspaces via a shortcut with compiz it doesn't show me what workspace I am changing to either, it used to
[01:18] <Jon--> here's my ps -e output http://pastebin.com/96PBbf0a
[01:18] <mrdeb> edbian: so it's better?
[01:18] <edbian> mrdeb: External cards are almost always better
[01:18] <mrdeb> what about power strain on the system
[01:18] <Guest65324> I have a SATA laptop hard drive and it's been put on a usb sled. I tried to mount the hard drive and got an initial complaint about the disk being mounted in Windows already.....   Is there a way for me to fix the "dirty dismount" status of the hard drive so that I can mount this hard drive from within ubuntu?
[01:18] <paulharrghis> is emerald strictly a window decorator?
[01:19] <edbian> Jon--: ps -e lists all the processes running right now.  compiz is not running in this ps -e
[01:19] <RevSpecies116> zanzee, how to get the sound prefs up in a GUI in xubutu?
[01:19]  * Guest65324 seems to remember something about an "fsck" command but  only vaguely
[01:19] <RevSpecies116> zanzee, how to get the sound prefs up in a GUI in xubutu?
[01:19] <edbian> Jon--: But you're reporting the desktop changing animation is not working.  I would be very much interested to see the switch set to None, compiz not running, and desktop wall working.
[01:19] <Jon--> edbian, Then why are my commands and viewpoint switching still working, and why did I have Compiz's Desktop Wall before, with all my settings working, and now I do not?
[01:19] <zanzee> i haven't used xfs much
[01:20] <edbian> Jon--: You can switch desktops with or without compiz.
[01:20] <zanzee> but make sure your sound card isn't muted, a lot are by default after a freash install
[01:20] <RevSpecies116> There IS a huge difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu from a support perspective
[01:20] <edbian> Jon--: The commands are working becuase compiz is not running
[01:20] <RevSpecies116> No two ways about that, zanzee
[01:20] <Jon--> I meant that Compiz command plugin and viewpoint switcher plugin are running
[01:20] <edbian> Jon--: I believe you were mistaken before.  I don't think the wmctrl command work while compiz is running.
[01:20] <mrdeb> why would you get an input output error when copying a cd
[01:21] <mrdeb> it's an audio cd
[01:21] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: Everything running smoothly thus far?
[01:21] <Jon--> edbian, I am pretty damn sure that I had the fancy compiz desktop wall WITH wmctrl working...
[01:21] <ImDexter> <RevSpecies116, im reloading sources
[01:21] <RevSpecies116> OKies :)
[01:22] <zanzee> you can check your sound mixer from the command line
[01:22] <zanzee> just make sure its not muted
[01:22] <RevSpecies116> terminal is NOT an option
[01:22] <zanzee> been awhile
[01:22] <zanzee> my phone runs xubuntu
[01:22] <zanzee> but I haven't messed with it too much
[01:22] <edbian> Jon--: I don't want to offend you.  It's just what I think is most likely.  If you can replicate that behavior (wmctrl working with compiz running) I will be persuaded.  I don'think it is possible to get them to work so I don't know how to help you get them working together.
[01:22] <RevSpecies116> My phone runs Ubuntu [Nexus 1]
[01:23] <zanzee> I gave my nexus 1 to my wife and got an atrix
[01:23] <mrdeb> why would you get an input output error when copying a cd
[01:23] <Jon--> edbian, You may be right. Thanks for the help
[01:23] <edbian> Jon--: Is it possible that compiz was running, then something caused compiz to crash (not hard).  In this case the system would replace the now crashed compiz with metacity and the commands would work.  Besides a flicker on the screen you would not notice.
[01:23] <edbian> Jon--: You're welcome.
[01:23] <edbian> Jon--: Here is a workaround I found:  http://sfyang-en.blogspot.com/2008/02/rotate-cube-in-compiz-with-wmctrl.html
[01:24] <Guest65324> I am not opposed to actually formatting the hard drive.... I am wondering if using a live cd would make accomplishing my task any easier
[01:24] <edbian> Jon--: And this: http://www.bgevolution.com/blog/wmctrl-recap-placing-windows-automatically-on-boot-compiz-viewports/
[01:24] <RevSpecies116> Guest65324: Take a look at gparted livecd
[01:24] <KM0201> Guest65324: what are you trying to do?
[01:25] <Terabyte> hi, i'm trying to share folders (NTFS mounted in /etc/fstab) in 11.04 and it keeps telling me that i don't own them, so i can't share them. any ideas?
[01:25] <Terabyte> specifically i get this error, but this thread is old and restarting does nothing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=825965
[01:25] <zanzee> Terabyte, open a terminal and run gksu nautulus
[01:26] <Guest65324> KM0201,  I took an 80 GB SATA laptop hard drive and put it on a USB sled, with the intention of formatting it and mounting it as a new storage volume
[01:26] <Guest65324> obviously it still has an ntfs operating system on it
[01:26] <joseph_> Hi all
[01:26] <zanzee> set the rights via nautilus
[01:26] <KM0201> Guest65324: ok... that really shouldn't be an issue, ubuntu can mount ntfs pretty easily.
[01:26] <Tros> Is there a way to force a resolution on a secondary monitor (try a television), or do I still have to drop into xorg.conf for that?
[01:26] <joseph_> Iḿ using ylmf OS but some of it still in chinese
[01:27] <Guest65324> KM0201,  I am wondering if it's possible to either format the drive from the normal running kernel or to  somehow "clean" its  status  thus making it mountable
[01:27] <Jon--> edbian, ty
[01:27] <KM0201> Guest65324: it should mount w/o being formatted to be truthful...
[01:27] <Guest65324> KM0201,  agreed, ntfs is normally not an issue, but I am getting a complaint about the drive already being mounted
[01:27] <Terabyte> zanzee gksu nautilus has no effect
[01:27] <KM0201> hmm
[01:27] <nraic> I'm  trying to compile jpcap because there is not 64 bit package for it. The make ends with error sayinf jni.h is missing. This should be found in the java-6-sun include folder.
[01:28] <nraic> For some reason I don't have a include folder in side my java-6sun
[01:28] <Guest65324>  this makes me feel like the machine was probably improperly shit down the last time the laptop was shut off.... which was probably a year ago
[01:28] <Guest65324> shi* = shut
[01:28] <Guest65324> pardon me
[01:28] <Guest65324> :)
[01:28] <Terabyte> nautulus*
[01:28] <KM0201> possible.
[01:28] <RevSpecies116> Guest65324: Do those laptop drives use the silly jumpers like the old PATA drives did?
[01:29] <notNicolas> Does creating a usb installation USB totally crap out everything else on the USB for whatever reason?
[01:29] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: sata shouldn't...
[01:29] <notNicolas> uh that made no sense
[01:29] <ImDexter> http://pastebin.com/Qbixy3jg <RevSpecies116>, I had to drop the second part
[01:29] <notNicolas> Does creating a usb installation of Ubuntu totally crap out everything else on the usb for whatever reason
[01:30] <KM0201> notNicolas: usually, it will ask to format the USB... i've had mixed resulst when i don't format the USB.
[01:30] <Guest65324> RevSpecies116,  thats a negative on the jumpers. nope It was an internal SATA hard disk for a laptop, and I suspect that it's native machine was improperly dismounted. leaving me with a sata hard drive attached to a usb sled
[01:30] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: That is looking good
[01:30] <ArexBawrin> How can I find the source code (not the executable) of a program I installed via synaptic?
, at last....
[01:30] <ImDexter> i get something to work as it should
[01:31] <Guest65324> RevSpecies116,  what i just typed makes no sense but i think you can grasp what i meant by that
[01:31] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: have you tried to force unmount it?
[01:31] <Guest65324> KM0201,  no i havent
[01:31] <Guest65324> how would i go about that?
[01:31] <RevSpecies116> Guest65324: Yep - jumpers are not the issue ;)
[01:31] <ImDexter> http://pastebin.com/z1D8XDqP whole thing <RevSpecies116>
[01:32] <zanzee> anyone have samba hard locking their system when you try to transfer sometihng from a client machine?
[01:32] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: You are not out of the woods yet, now it is time to get a few MOD's/games and maps
[01:32]  * Guest65324 seems to remember something about fsck  being able to clean a dirty dismounted  ntfs drive
[01:32] <ImDexter> dexter@hihihi100-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install spring-maps-default
[01:32] <ImDexter> Reading package lists... Done
[01:32] <ImDexter> Building dependency tree
[01:32] <ImDexter> Reading state information... Done
[01:32] <ImDexter> E: Unable to locate package spring-maps-default
[01:32] <FloodBot1> ImDexter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:32] <RevSpecies116> BA as the MOD and DSD as the map will get you some play time on springlobby ;)
[01:32] <Guest65324> I suppose I could just  boot to a live cd and format the thing
[01:33] <Guest65324> or i might ust have the same exact problem seeing the drive from the live disc as well
, what do I do about that pasted springs-maps default?
[01:33] <mrdeb> is 64 bit 10.04 faster than 32bit one
[01:33] <KM0201> mrdeb: depends
[01:33] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: Now, you should find springlobby in your games menu
[01:33] <Guest65324> I wonder if connecting the drive to a computer which is running windows would help
[01:33] <KM0201> Guest65324: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[01:33] <Guest65324> maybe the neighbor runs windows
[01:33] <rww> mrdeb: not for most users
[01:34] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: I think they renamed it to just spring-maps
[01:34] <Guest65324> KM0201,  thanks I am reading now
[01:34] <RevSpecies116> so drop the -default from the command
[01:34] <KM0201> Guest65324: look at the manually mounting/unmounting section.
[01:34] <ImDexter> <RevSpecies116 no difference
[01:35] <Guest65324> KM0201,  thanks
[01:35] <KM0201> Guest65324: if it already has a mount point, you don't need to make one (i'm assuming it does)
[01:35] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: give this next command a try: sudo apt-get install libtorrent-rasterbar-dbg spring-maps-deltasiege spring-map spring-mods-kernelpanic spring-mod spring-javaai
[01:36] <Guest65324> would the output of dmesg help you to help me in any way KM0201 ?
[01:36] <RevSpecies116> But again, ImDexter I don't know how much that will download - I think just deltaseige map is 25MB on its own
[01:36] <Guest65324> i see all kinds of information in there about the drive
[01:36] <KM0201> me?  no.. but it might someone else
[01:36] <ImDexter> http://imagebin.org/156797, <RevSpecies116>
[01:36] <Guest65324> KM0201,  :) okay
[01:36] <KM0201> Guest65324: you can pastebin it and i'll look at it, but no promises
[01:36] <Tros> Okay. I'm trying to google it now. What replaced X11 in 11.04?
[01:36] <Guest65324> KM0201,  thanks ;]
[01:37] <mollfe> hola
[01:37] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: You are on Ubuntu 10.04+?
[01:37] <ImDexter> 11.04
[01:37] <RevSpecies116> 11.04 should be way up to date :(
[01:37] <srm> Tros, replaced? It's still x.org.
, the check for updates option in springlobby doesnt work either
[01:38] <Tros> I thought there was some magical progression from x11.
 i can see the players, not join them
[01:38] <Guest65324> I see what the problem is I think
[01:39] <Guest65324> the windows instance on this drive is "hibernated"
[01:39] <srm> Tros, hehe, not that I'm aware of. but here's something interesting around the corner: http://wayland.freedesktop.org/
[01:39] <mollfe> hello
[01:39] <Guest65324> this is a new one for me
[01:39] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: See if you can get a few more helpful hints from the folks in the springlobby
[01:39] <RevSpecies116> I'm checking the forum for 11.04, but no luck thus far
[01:39] <srm> Tros, you may be referring to the unity desktop, which works as Compiz Plugin and replaces the classic gnome-desktop
, apply icons dont work, I can only close the window withpout changing or saving anything
[01:40] <Tros> srm: Yeah! I thought Ubuntu was pushing for some serious progress! Shoot :[
[01:41] <rozander1> hey guys
[01:41] <rozander1> can someone please help me install a driver from the file on a Cd..would be much apprevioated
[01:41] <rozander1> appreciated
[01:42] <Tros> srm: I also though way back, there was "no more xorg.conf" to fix monitors! And that's pretty awesome! But now I can't figure out how to force a resolution or overscan compensate if I dont' have NVidia's drivers (which I cannot.)
[01:42] <srm> rozander1, more details needed. what driver, why do you need to install it and what does "from the file on a cd" mean.
[01:42] <eloystebam> spanish?
[01:42] <eloystebam> spanish?
[01:42] <srm> Tros, I had big troubles with the proprietary Nvidia driver and TwinView, this is just broken. I've moved to xrandr and nuvou and I'm pretty happy.
[01:43] <rozander1> srm..its a wireless card driver and is unsupported by unbuntu ouit of the box...however the cd has a linux file on their to install the driver and i need it becouse i want the internet without wires heh
[01:43] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: does spring run with a terminal command of just : spring
[01:43] <RevSpecies116> ?
[01:43] <srm> rozander1, did your installation of Ubuntu finished successfuly?
[01:43] <Jon--> How do I restart my window manager (metacity, not compiz), WITHOUT closing any open applications? Is this possible?
[01:43] <rozander1> lol yeh ive had ubuntu since like 8.1 or something
[01:44] <rozander1> just not used to installing drivers from a cd...usualy ubuntus pretty much plug and play
[01:44] <Jon--> I'm right clicking in open-office on workspace 2 and it's moving me to workspace 1 when I do.. I want to try a restart
[01:44] <eloystebam> speak spanish?
[01:44] <rozander1> or can find what i need on synaptic
[01:44] <eloystebam> #ubuntu /es
[01:44] <srm> rozander1, what is your wifi hardware?
[01:44] <rozander1> its the....hold let me get it
[01:45] <RevSpecies116> Looks like springRTS in the repo's is 0.82.5.1, not 0.82.7
[01:45] <eloystebam> #ubuntu/es
[01:45] <Guest65324>  KM0201  here is an interesting message the drive gave me when I connected it directly to the laptop's usb ports and NOT through a powered hub, as I initially had
[01:45] <rozander1> edimax  ew-7612pin
[01:45] <Guest65324> KM0201,  http://pastebin.com/abwerpMd
[01:46] <Guest65324> looks like it answered the problem for me
[01:46]  * Guest65324 attempts
[01:46] <KM0201> Guest65324: yup, looks like it did.
[01:46] <KM0201> lol
[01:46] <RevSpecies116> LOL ImDexter - seems they changed the name from spring to spring-engine
[01:46] <boxbeatsy> hi, how can i display the user who is running the tasks that show up with ps ax?
[01:47] <Guest65324> but we both learned :)
[01:47] <RevSpecies116> So give this a try: sudo apt-get install spring-engine
[01:47] <Guest65324> so that good
[01:47] <KM0201> lol
[01:47] <rozander1> boxbeatsy...what do you mean ps ax
[01:47] <KM0201> Guest65324: now as long as it works.. :)
 I have messed things up too, I have 2 entries to spring, one as 0.82.7 and another one as 0.82.1 THe thing is I dont know how to get rid of the older one
[01:48] <joseph_> this fucking cock sucking Ylmf OS still has that shit chinese. Those sons of a bitch needs to fuck them selves!!
[01:48] <KM0201> joseph_: not here
[01:48] <KM0201> ..
[01:48] <Guest65324> KM0201,  that's what I'm about to determine
[01:48] <KM0201> lol
[01:48] <boxbeatsy> rozander1: i'm listing all current processes running by executing 'ps ax', but how do i show the user that is running all those processes?
[01:48] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: I also would have no idea how to get rid of the old entry :(
[01:48] <rozander1> are you trying to view the users on a network
[01:49] <Guest65324> KM0201,  and it sure did work
[01:49] <Guest65324> :)
[01:49] <joseph_> What happened?
[01:49]  * Guest65324 was not aware a user could remove a huber file
[01:49] <KM0201> Guest65324: great... terminal is weird like that, it'll often tell you what you have to do.
[01:49] <boxbeatsy> rozander1: mm i don't think so.  im just trying to see which user on my computer is running mysql
[01:49] <bazhang> joseph_, no cursing, watch the attitude
[01:49] <srm> rozander1, is that the output from lspci?
[01:49] <w30> ps aux
[01:49] <Guest65324> huber=hiber file
[01:50] <Guest65324> as in hibernation file
[01:50] <KM0201> yup
[01:50] <rozander1> srm no thats the model number from the cd supplied
[01:50] <Guest65324> coolness, well I'm off to find some other problem to fret about thanks again
[01:50] <w30> boxbeatsy, ps aux
[01:50] <Guest65324> :)
[01:50] <rozander1> ya ps aux
[01:50] <srm> rozander1, check out what lspci has to say. I found "The chipset of EW-7612pin is RTL8191SE" here "http://newsgroupstats.info/article/forums.novell.com/opensuse.org.help.network-internet.wireless/15496/Edimax-wiFi-cards.html"
[01:50] <joseph_> I was just stating that this ***** Ylmf OS still has chinese in it!
[01:50] <srm> rozander1, can't be of any more help. I've just fiddled with the BCM firmware
[01:50] <boxbeatsy> ah, thanks!
[01:51] <bazhang> joseph_, stop it. thats not supported here. try their support.
[01:51] <rozander1> srm alreet thanks..although this should be the right driver...theirs a makefile ect
[01:51] <joseph_> cant fint it, itś based on ubunto
[01:51] <rozander1> should i not just like install it
[01:52] <RevSpecies116> joseph_: Xubuntu is also based on Ubuntu, but it is not supported here
[01:52] <srm> rozander1, if there's no manual on how to install it and you don't know how to install it....how would you install it? ^^
[01:52] <bazhang> joseph_, it's supposed to be CHinese. take it elsewhere as it's NOT supported.
[01:52] <bazhang> RevSpecies116, sure it is.
[01:52] <srm> rozander1, these may be kernel modules to be compiled and added to the bootup scripts
[01:52] <rozander1> haha srm is their not a standard procedure...like cd to directory and do something to the makefule..
[01:52] <joseph_> ok, then let me ask you this, what is the best Linux to use for beginners?
[01:52] <rozander1> their is also a .tar.gx
[01:53] <bazhang> joseph_, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:53] <aeon-ltd> joseph_: define beginner
[01:53] <rozander1>  i mean .tar.gz
[01:53] <srm> rozander1, no, usually you compile kernel modules and add them to the appropriate scripts to be loaded at boot time
[01:53] <rozander1> hmm then would it be easier to use ndiswrapper maybe ?
[01:53] <srm> rozander1, no idea. I'm not that strong with this hardware stuff.
[01:53] <rozander1> hm i do have a manual
[01:54] <rozander1> should i pm it you and see if you can make anymore of it than i can
[01:54] <joseph_> someone that doesn know how to install anything with terminal or even use the terminal.
[01:54] <RevSpecies116> bazhang: The words were too defined, I ment to say: Some Xubuntu methodologies are not supported here: like the lack of ability to follow the instructions to goto System->Preferences->sound, when Xubuntu doesn't have that option ;)
[01:54] <srm> yeah, why rozander1
[01:55] <KM0201> joseph_: ubuntu is fine for beginners, it has a lot of GUI tools, and requires little command line, unless you just want to use it.
[01:55] <joseph_> is there a version thatś simalar to XP?
[01:55] <joseph_> window?
[01:55] <bazhang> joseph_, no
[01:55] <RevSpecies116> joseph_: Best to stick to windows if you want XP
[01:56] <aeon-ltd> joseph_: making something look like windows but not work like windows is more confusing than something new
[01:56] <KM0201> exactly joseph_ if you want windows. ... nobody does windows better than Microsoft
[01:56] <joseph_> Ylmf, looks just like it, if it wasn for the chinese! it would be great
[01:56] <aeon-ltd> KM0201: my contractor does
[01:56] <KM0201> joseph_: looking like it, and acting like it.... are very different
[01:56] <KM0201> aeon-ltd: ;)  touche'
[01:56] <bazhang> thats neither here nor there joseph_ it's not supported here, let's move on.
[01:57] <zanzee> I need some help with samba it keeps locking my home server hard
[01:57] <joseph_> thatś true and I can't afford windows. so I guess ubuntu would be the best.
[01:58] <ExtractBeliefs> heh
[01:58] <joseph_> now ubuntu has several distros, which is the best? I don't like the applications on the top of my screen, any with the menu on left corner?
[01:59] <bazhang> there is not a best joseph_ try which one you like and use it.
[01:59] <zanzee> you can change the panels to your liking
[01:59] <bazhang> zanzee, not with unity, at least not yet
[01:59] <zanzee> I've switched back to classic myself, the new interface is silly at best
[01:59] <zanzee> unity just annoyes me
[02:00] <RevSpecies116> I love the idea of Unity :)
[02:00] <zanzee> unity is great for my grama
[02:00] <intx> i can't get AMDOverdrivectrl to compile: CAppProfilePanel.cpp:(.text+0x1c4a): undefined reference to `std::_List_node_base::_M_unhook()', anyone know why?
[02:00] <joseph_> ok thank you.
[02:00] <zanzee> unity for my tablet is awsome
[02:01] <joseph_> bye and sorry for the cursing, even though it was funny. ha
[02:01] <zanzee> but not a server / desktop
[02:01] <srm> yeah, a lot to improve on unity, but a cool step in the right direction.
[02:02] <zanzee> im more than happy with stock gdm
[02:02] <RevSpecies116> I'm sure Unity will be got right by 12.04LTS\
[02:02] <zanzee> haha
[02:02] <RevSpecies116> I think by 14.04LTS Weyland will be in
[02:03] <zanzee> gnome 4 is pretty wicked
[02:03] <smokeycastle> So long and thanks for all the fish
[02:03] <smokeycastle> So sad that it should come to this
[02:03] <smokeycastle> We tried to warn you all but oh dear!
[02:03] <smokeycastle> You may not share our intellect
[02:03] <smokeycastle> Which might explain your disrespect
[02:03] <FloodBot1> smokeycastle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:03] <smokeycastle> For all the natural wonders that
[02:03] <smokeycastle> grow around you
[02:03] <RevSpecies116> smokeycastle: Nice film, but the somg not required - HHGTTG
[02:04] <RevSpecies116> somg = song
[02:04] <smokeycastle> zomg?
[02:04] <bazhang> !ot > smokeycastle
[02:04] <The_Letter_M> Hello
[02:04] <smokeycastle> If I had just one last wish
[02:04] <smokeycastle> I would like a tasty fish
[02:04] <bazhang> smokeycastle, stop it
[02:04] <smokeycastle> ok
[02:05] <MrBushido> is there a single source for port names or are they defined at the descretion of the app? e.g. some apps lets you define a port as "ssh" and it resolves it to port 22. Is there a way to reconfigure this so that ssh refers to port 45432 or whatver?
[02:06] <smokeycastle> question, if you ssh to a computer, then ssh from that computer to another computer, then rip a website for offline viewing is that next to nearly impossible to trace?
[02:06] <RevSpecies116> smokeycastle: No
[02:06] <The_Letter_M> lol
[02:07] <srm> MrBushido, you have to give a parameter to the sshd or your ssh client to use another port. Names are just made-up things.
[02:07] <smokeycastle> how do you track something like that?
[02:07] <smokeycastle> logs on the servers?
[02:07] <aeon-ltd> smokeycastle: ok, since you ( i assume) own both these computers it would trace to a location/area where you live
[02:08] <smokeycastle> yes but they would think it was ze other pc right?
[02:08] <th0r> MrBushido: the first 1024 I think are assigned. There are websites with the list of assigned port numbers. But to answer your question, yes, you can change the port ssh listens on
[02:08] <RevSpecies116> smokeycastle: Unfortunatly your query is BEYOND how this channel can help you. Sorry...
[02:08] <aeon-ltd> smokeycastle: you use public proxies available in other countries, then it traces back there a'ight
[02:08] <srm> The ports are only assigned by convention/standard.
[02:08] <aeon-ltd> smokeycastle: but you own these to do ssh? ........
[02:08] <smokeycastle> i currently own two linux boxes.
[02:08] <smokeycastle> I have no real desire to do it im just trying to understand how ssh works
[02:09] <bazhang> smokeycastle, actual ubuntu support question?
[02:09] <RevSpecies116> Perhaps there is a channel dedicated to help with ssh, smokeycastle
[02:09] <aeon-ltd> smokeycastle: for ssh? therefore you must own the building/house they are in - that info can be used
[02:09] <MrBushido> srm: yah, i get that much. but say when i use iptables i can configure it to accept incoming connections from ssh with "-p tcp --dport ssh", but ssh is assumed to be 22 by iptables
[02:09] <srm> MrBushido, right. If you use another port for your sshd you'd have to specify the port directly in the rule
[02:09] <smokeycastle> wait this is the ubuntu irc channel?
[02:10] <aeon-ltd> yes
[02:10] <bazhang> yes smokeycastle
[02:10] <rewt> MrBushido: /etc/services
[02:10] <duckspeaker> lulz
[02:10] <smokeycastle> oh sorry, i thought this was the #linux on irc.rizon.net
[02:10] <srm> MrBushido, iptables would resolve 'ssh' to the standard port 22 (as pointed out by t0h and rewt)
[02:10] <duckspeaker> i'm picturing smokeycastle walking back slowly
[02:10] <MrBushido> srm: ok, just wondered if it was possible to name the port rather than use a number. Makes it easier to read at a later date once the iptables config is a little more messy ^_^
[02:10] <smokeycastle> using irc in bash is confusing
[02:11] <srm> rewt, are you saying that iptables would use /etc/services to resolve the name? thought that is hardcoded in the app
[02:11] <bazhang> smokeycastle, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[02:11] <MrBushido> rewt: oh cool
[02:11] <rewt> srm, i'm pretty sure everything uses /etc/services to resolve port names to numbers
[02:11] <srm> rewt, coo. I thought of it always as just a quick reference for personal pleasure
[02:12] <srm> *cool
[02:12] <MrBushido> it would make sense, especially when apps can be dependant on others
[02:12] <kermit> is something deleting /tmp/* at boot?  if so, what?
[02:12] <rewt> /etc/services is to service names as /etc/hosts is to host names and /etc/networks is to network names
[02:12] <srm> good to know!
[02:13] <MrBushido> thanks rewt & srm! back to configing my fileserver ^_^
[02:13] <imadper> Hi everyone! I bought a HP-probook-4230s, but it's Ralink 3592 couldn't work well in ubuntu, what should I do?
[02:14] <srm> imadper, tell us what "couldn't work well" means and what a "Ralink 35922" is
[02:14] <rewt> 802.11n?
[02:14] <imadper> re
[02:14] <imadper> rewt: yeah
[02:15] <KM0201> i was gonna suggest "learn to ask a question" but i'd guess thats not helpful.. :)
[02:15] <imadper> srm: I think it's a 802.11n
[02:15] <delinquentme> We also recommend that you add the directory containing the elastic-mapreduce tool to your PATH.
[02:15] <delinquentme> how does one do this?
[02:15] <KM0201> imadper: how do you know its a ralink 3592?
[02:15] <delinquentme> ( im assuming this is an ubuntu-specific operation)
[02:16] <imadper> srm: when i use "ifconfig", i can find wlan0, but can not find single
[02:16] <srm> delinquentme, that's a bash/shell specific operation. Do you know what the PATH environment variable is?
[02:16] <imadper> KM0201: from my windows
[02:16] <KM0201> imadper: windows descriptions usually are quite a bit different from linux.
[02:16] <srm> delinquentme, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[02:17] <imadper> KM0201: I have see the chip~
[02:17] <delinquentme> smr so i think its a bunch of short hands for programs to access each other
[02:17] <cracker> quit
[02:17] <KM0201> imadper: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1713808
[02:17] <imadper> KM0201: I try to change it with a ath's 802.11n, but it's a full size
[02:18] <imadper> KM0201: thx
[02:18] <srm> delinquentme, read the link I gave you. In short: if you enter a (program-)name in your terminal/bash/shell, the shell looks in the current directory for a program with this name to execute, if it can't find it, it goes through all directories listed in PATH to find the program
[02:18] <imadper> KM0201: :D
[02:18] <delinquentme> check! srm
[02:18] <delinquentme> thanks:D
[02:18] <rozander1> hmm
[02:18] <KM0201> imadper: scary what 2sec of googling will do.
[02:19] <babalu> alguien me puede ayudar porfavor?
[02:19] <rozander1> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic-pae'
[02:19] <rozander1> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/HAL/rtl8192'. Stop.
[02:19] <rozander1> any ideas ?
[02:19] <babalu> kite el pulse audi
[02:19] <bazhang> !es | babalu
[02:20] <babalu> !es
[02:20] <bazhang> babalu, /join #ubuntu-es
[02:20] <imadper> KM0201: I can't use google, because i'm in china
[02:21] <KM0201> imadper: well.. that sucks.
[02:21] <bazhang> imadper, use baidu then
[02:21] <KM0201> can you use yahoo?
[02:21] <imadper> KM0201: Chinese gov stopped people use google, so baidu i have searched
[02:21] <pfifo> use bing :D
[02:21] <imadper> bazhang: ok~
[02:21] <KM0201> pfifo: lol
[02:22] <nit-wit> imadper, http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm
[02:23] <imadper> but when i search, it will return only chinese page, and it has no use for me
[02:23] <basilfaulty> what msn app do ppl like?
[02:23] <imadper> nit-wit: what do you mean?
[02:23] <rozander1> lol is anyone good with errors like make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic-pae'
[02:23] <rozander1> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/HAL/rtl8192'. Stop.
[02:23] <delinquentme> srm,  unf-ubu@unf-ubu:~/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2$ export CROSSBOW_HOME= /home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2/   # =>  not a valid identifier
[02:24]  * imadper thanks a lot~
[02:24] <RevSpecies116> basilfaulty: Pidgin
[02:24] <nit-wit> imadper, just another search engine.;)
[02:24] <srm> delinquentme, what's up with the spaces?
[02:24] <basilfaulty> thanks
[02:24] <KM0201> basilfaulty: there's several.. pidgin, kopete, empathy, amsn
[02:24] <kingofswords> can i read ubuntu patition in xp?
[02:24] <xio3> i was hoping someone could help me figure out what i'm doing wrong. I would like to generate a bunch of private/pub keys on a server and then package them in a .deb (one key per .deb file) so that a script could connect with ssh and do some port forwarding using passwordess logins. I had no problem generating a public/private key pair on the client and then uploading it and adding it to a authorized_keys2 file.  problem comes in when i try
[02:24] <xio3> to do this in reverse. in theory i thought i could generate the public/private key pair, add the pub key to the server's authorized_keys file of the user which the client will connect as and then use ssh -i id_rsa.pub that is in the package installed on the client to connect without a password to the server. i have tried a ton of different things to get this to working and no matter what asks me for a password.
[02:24] <KM0201> basilfaulty: do you need audio/video?
[02:24] <xio3> suggestions?
[02:24] <imadper> nit-wit: sorry, it can't use in China。。
[02:24] <FloodBot1> xio3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <delinquentme> check!
[02:25] <basilfaulty> no, just standard text, maybe pics
[02:25] <KM0201> basilfaulty: then any o those will work (i personally think pidgin has the best interface)
[02:25] <basilfaulty> cool, will try them
[02:25] <imadper> nit-wit: you konw, Chinese gov hav "GFW" to stop people use google~
[02:26] <Jon--> My sound outputs both to my internal speakers and to my external headphones. How can I set it to only send out to the headphone output when a device is plugged in?
[02:26] <kneaux> I'd like an alternative to charmap.app, as I don't like its unnecessary, cluttersome, oddball, ugly, extra window. Anyone know of anything good - hopefully in the repositories? (gnome-character-map is gone! ??)
[02:27] <KM0201> i'm surprised china even allows internet access to be truthful.. but. thats really not on topic here
[02:27] <bazhang> imadper, we know. directly search ubuntuforums then
[02:28] <jammonstrald> is there any way to configure gtkfilechooser to use a location bar/toolbar in place of the default path-bar?
[02:29] <imadper> bazhang: ok, thx~ :D
[02:30] <babalu> guys
[02:30] <babalu> help plz
[02:30] <babalu> how do I multi stream an audio device in ubuntu 10.10
[02:31] <RevSpecies116> imadper: I think you CAN use google - through the Hong Kong Google site
[02:31] <RevSpecies116> www.google.cn
[02:32] <imadper> RevSpecies116: ok, I don't think so. every day , It can use only ONE hour...
[02:33] <RevSpecies116> www.google.cn AND www.google.com.hk
[02:34] <RevSpecies116> Many solutions for mainland China
[02:34] <imadper> RevSpecies116: It’s all the same。。。It‘s true。
[02:36] <imadper> RevSpecies116: The goverment build "The great fire wall"to stop people who try to visit google/youtube/facebook and so on
[02:37] <rozander1> can anyone help me get my wifi card working please
[02:38] <OctoByte> rozander1,  what wifi card do you have?
[02:38] <nit-wit> rozander1, what is the card?
[02:39] <rozander1> hey its an edimax   EW-7612pin
[02:40] <KM0201> rozander1: is it usb, or PCI(internal)?
[02:40] <rozander1> internal
[02:40] <KM0201> rozander1: type "lspci" ina  terminal and hit enter, go through the output, and find your wireless card, and tell us what chipset it is.
[02:41] <rozander1> how will i no which line is chipset
[02:41] <srm> rozander1, that's a bad habit you have there. bother mentioning the RTL-chipset it uses? bother mentioning that you have a CD with linux drivers to build kernel modules based on HAL (bad thing now) and that this cd provides a wpa_supplicant and all the other stuff you've figured out?
[02:41] <KM0201> rozander1: cuz it will probably say it's wireless
[02:41] <KM0201> rozander1: or it may say "802.11g" or something like that
[02:42] <KM0201> rozander1: if you can't figure out which one it is.. pastebin your lspci and give me the link
[02:42] <KM0201> !pastebin | rozander1
[02:42] <KM0201> hmm, ubottu is sleeping
[02:42] <jimjam> !pastebin | jimjam
[02:42] <srm> he should first learn to tell what he already knows and not wasting time going through the same things over and over again.
[02:42] <RevSpecies116> rozander1: I know you want to jump straight into wifi, but does wired ethernet work on your Ubuntu at all?
[02:43] <RevSpecies116> Simple steps first
[02:43] <rozander1> yes wired is fine
[02:43] <rozander1> iam actually using a wired ethernet now this is the very system
[02:43] <schaumie2222> could anybody help me out with playing videos on firefox
[02:43] <rozander1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/618732/
[02:43] <KM0201> rozander1: well, that should hopefully make it easy to set up.. so just find your wireless device
[02:43] <jimjam> schaumie what's wrong with it?
[02:43] <KM0201> rozander1: 05:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10)
[02:44] <rozander1> right
[02:44] <RevSpecies116> OKies, rozander1 simple step done ;)
[02:44] <KM0201> rozander1: what version of ubuntu do you have?... i thought that worked out of the box?(i have an 8198)
[02:44] <rozander1> its the 11. watever were on now lmao
[02:44] <KM0201> ..
[02:44] <RevSpecies116> Natty
[02:44] <schaumie2222> its worked for a while but now when movies go to play it has a little movie reel looking thing with a music note in the bottom left and a play button in the middle, when i go to click it it goes to a stop button and nothing happens
[02:45] <schaumie2222> im not sure when it stopped working but i think after an update
[02:45] <rozander1> 11.04
[02:45] <AJ4X> I want to dual boot ubuntu 11.04 and windows 7 on my netbook but can i have one partition as ntfs and another as ext4? Please help
[02:45] <KM0201> AJ4X: what do you mean?..
[02:45] <schnuffle> AJ4X: So where is your problem?
[02:45] <AJ4X> i dont want to install under windows
[02:46] <dtsund> AJ4X: There's no problem with that.
[02:46] <RevSpecies116> schaumie2222: try this: sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:46] <RevSpecies116> :)
[02:46] <AJ4X> doesnt ubuntu use ext4?
[02:46] <schaumie2222> already installed rev
[02:46] <rozander1> yes its ext4 lol
[02:46] <rozander1> ajx are you using the live cd
[02:46] <rozander1> from boot
[02:46] <rozander1> or trying to install literally under windows
[02:46] <RevSpecies116> Rightclick on the media file, and 'open with...' VLC
[02:46] <jimjam> schaumie what site are you watching the videos on? Does it apply to all videos or just from one sitE?
[02:46] <dtsund> Having different partitions differently formatted is no problem
[02:46] <schnuffle> AJ4X: yes
[02:46] <AJ4X> i heard if i install under windows it is slower than a fresh install
[02:46] <RevSpecies116> As is sounds like totem has taken control, schaumie2222
[02:47] <schaumie2222> icefilms.info
[02:47] <KM0201> rozander1: what kind of laptop is that
[02:47] <schnuffle> AJ4X: How big is the ext4 partition?
[02:47] <rozander1> Km its a desktop
[02:47] <AJ4X> i didnt partition it yet
[02:47] <AJ4X> its a aspire one
[02:47] <dtsund> Anyway, I've got an upgrading problem, wondering if there's any quick fix:
[02:48] <dtsund> I've got a 9.04 machine I'd like to upgrade to 10.04 LTS
[02:48] <RevSpecies116> upgrade or straight there, dtsund
[02:48] <w30> AJ4X, I think you are confusing installing under windows, installing with windows and wubi
[02:48] <dtsund> Update Manager shows the upgrade as 10.04, but when I click the Upgrade button it just says I can't go directly from 9.04 to 10.04
[02:48] <schnuffle> AJ4X: So first install windows keep enough free space for 2 partitions at least ( one swap, one for the system) and after win7 install ubuntu
[02:48] <grahame> Help, I'm a novice. I have 3 Ubuntu Lucid installations (marvellous) but on one .... All windows are {Closed} when my wife clicks on the minimize button. What has gone wrong, or how can I fix this?
[02:48] <KM0201> dtsund: you can't go straight to LTS from 9.04... your easiest path will be a clean install
[02:48] <RevSpecies116> As the upgrade method needs to update to 9.10
[02:48] <delinquentme> so i've got a program which wants to run another program.. im guessing that there are special permissions i need to give to the slave file?
[02:48] <rozander1> Km/srm since this version has a problem with HAL or watever would it not be a quick fix to downgrade ?
[02:48] <dtsund> RevSpecies116: I understand that.
[02:48] <RevSpecies116> and then you need to upgrade to 10.04
[02:49] <rozander1> to like ubuntu 10.04
[02:49] <dtsund> Update Manager isn't giving me the option, though.
[02:49] <schaumie2222> right click open with vlc is not an option either
[02:49] <dtsund> There a command line ritual I can perform?
[02:49] <RevSpecies116> dtsund: open the update manager
[02:49] <KM0201> !tab | rozander1 if you're gnna say my name, complete it, so i don't have to search what you're saying
[02:49] <AJ4X> so installing under windows wouldnt make it run slower?
[02:49] <RevSpecies116> And then in the bottom of the window, you should see settings...
[02:50] <RevSpecies116> And in the settings, you can tick a button to let you know about OS updates to the next versions
[02:50] <schnuffle> AJ4X: Yes and wubi seems to be very prone to update problems
[02:50] <AJ4X> oh
[02:50] <w30> AJ4X, there is dual booting with windows as an install and Ubuntu as an install. Wubi runs Linux as an application more or less (mostly less I guess)
[02:50] <rozander1> KM0201:  what would be the next step then...
[02:51] <AJ4X> i want ubuntu to be my primary and windows just for programs that cant run on linux
[02:51] <KM0201> rozander1: unfortunately not seeing much of a suggestion.. i'm surprised it doesn't work though, i have an 8198 that works out of the box.
[02:51] <KM0201> AJ4X: then you definitely DO NOT want to use Wubi.
[02:51] <AJ4X> oh
[02:51] <dtsund> RevSpecies116: Not sure where you mean...
[02:51] <rozander1> hmm i also have one that may be in the 8 series hold
[02:51] <AJ4X> so i should install ubuntu first?
[02:51] <kevin> Hi guys
[02:51] <RevSpecies116> dtsund: Are you on Ubuntu or on a variant?
[02:51] <KM0201> AJ4X: does your machine currently have windows installed?
[02:52] <dtsund> Ubuntu.
[02:52] <kevin> I have 2 monitors, the small one keeps coming up as the primary for teh login.  How can I change that?
[02:52] <RevSpecies116> dtsund: Please open the update manager
[02:52]  * delinquentme does the ubuntu dance
[02:52] <schnuffle> AJ4X:  No install win first as the Ubuntu boot loader can add windows but not the other way round
[02:52] <dtsund> Well, Kubuntu technically, but I ran apt-get install ubuntu-desktop after finding that KDE4 was, well, KDE4.
[02:52] <kevin> I'v tried the Nvidie x config, but no luck
[02:52] <dtsund> And I have Update Manager open already
[02:52] <RevSpecies116> And do you have a 'settings...' button?
[02:53] <dtsund> Yeah, I have that open
[02:53] <jenvy> kevin, the easiest way to do that from my experience is to swap the stuff you plug into the back of your computer ;-)
[02:53] <jenvy> input1->input2, input2-input1
[02:53] <dtsund> There's a 'Show New distribution releases' section, but it's already set to 'normal releases'
[02:53] <w30> AJ4X, no, windows will wipe your boot loader for Linux, Linux as the second system will install a bootloader for both Linux and windows
[02:53] <RevSpecies116> And on the settings window, do you see an option to be informed about updates to the next version of Ubuntu?
[02:53] <turkfebruary> possible to change the number of workspaces in 11.04?
[02:54] <kevin> jenvy, yeah, I wanted to do that but have one DVI and one VGA style adapter... screwed on that front
[02:54] <rozander1> KM0201:  i have an  7728 which is also realtek...it didnt work on 10.04 which is why i bought this older one lmao i thought it might be supported..
[02:54] <rozander1> havnt tried this one with 11.04 though
[02:54] <dtsund> RevSpecies116: Yes, and it's already set to do so
[02:54] <jenvy> kevin, ah then i don't know.. whenever that happens ijust swap them in the back, i use two dvi though.
[02:54] <schaumie2222> could somebody pm me with some help playing videos in firefox that once worked but have since stopped working
[02:54] <KM0201> rozander1: i thought you said you had 11.04
[02:55] <dtsund> It knows there's a new version, it's just not letting me download the *right* one
[02:55] <rozander1> KM0201:  i do...but when i bought this one i had 10.04
[02:55] <KM0201> ..
[02:55] <delinquentme> whats the CHMOD which would allow the specific program to be run by other programs??
[02:55] <grahame> Help. One of my 3 Ubuntu 10.04 installations {Exits} all windows when I click the {minimize} button. [weird]. Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks
[02:56] <schnuffle> delinquentme: chmod a+x /path/to/binary would allow everybody to execute the binary
[02:56] <rozander1> KM0201:  i have a newer realtek wireless card....which i bought when i had 10.04 but it did not work with 10.04 wasnt supported...so i put it in the drawer lol now i have 11.04 and iam trying to use this older realtek device but iam wondering if this newer one i had in the drawer might be more supported
[02:56] <Nisstyre> yes
[02:56] <Silowyi> just mode 1777 everything
[02:56] <Silowyi> your firewall is secure right?
[02:56] <Silowyi> ;)
[02:56] <RevSpecies116> dtsund: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1140957
[02:57] <KM0201> rozander1: anything is possible i guess.
[02:57] <RevSpecies116> dtsund: what is it offereing you to update to?
[02:57] <KM0201> rozander1: can't hurt to try really
[02:57] <rozander1> right ill try hold
[02:58] <delinquentme> schnuffle, would allowing a single program be a safer option?
[02:58] <KM0201> the one ralink i have (like i said, 8198)... was tossed in w/ some other junk i bought, and w/ 11.04, i plug it in, it detects networks, i connect to them.
[02:58] <dtsund> RevSpecies116: It's trying to download and install lucid.
[02:58] <schnuffle> delinquentme: what are you trying to achieve?
[02:58] <dtsund> :|
[02:58] <dtsund> And failing.
[02:58] <KM0201> !dualboot | AJ4X there's some good instructions here for dual booting
[02:58] <AJ4X> thanks man
[02:59] <KM0201> AJ4X: does the machine already have windows installed?
[02:59] <AJ4X> yes
[02:59] <AJ4X> but it's windows starter
[02:59] <KM0201> AJ4X: ok.. so.. if i understand correctly..
[03:00] <AJ4X> and i want to install ultimate
[03:00] <Usuario123456789> teste
[03:00] <KM0201> AJ4X: what you want to do, is have... Partition 1-- some version o windows, partition 2 ubuntu, partition 3.. files (music, pics, etc..) so they can be sharec between the two OS's?
[03:00] <grahame> Does anyone have an idea why 1 of my 3 Lucid 10.04 LTS installations will not {minimize} any window, it always(!){Closes} them? Thanks,
[03:00] <RevSpecies116> Oh, bummer, dtsund :(
[03:00] <delinquentme> schnuffle, i have a program called crossbow giving me this output: http://pastie.org/2020627 .. line 11 makes me think that its a chmod / permissions issue
[03:00] <AJ4X> well if that is possible yes
[03:00] <KM0201> AJ4X: very possible...
[03:01] <dtsund> There a .deb floating around somewhere for the upgrade?
[03:01] <chardluck> hi?
[03:02] <delinquentme> schnuffle, i can give you the entire output if it would help
[03:02] <grahame> Does anyone have an idea why 1 of my 3 Lucid 10.04 LTS installations will not {minimize} any window, it always(!){Closes} them? Thanks,
[03:02] <schnuffle> delinquentme: paste it to pastebin
[03:03] <delinquentme> schnuffle, http://pastebin.com/FNAYDEfK
[03:03] <schnuffle> delinquentme: what you can do is do a chmod 755  /home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2/bin/linux32 and retry
[03:04] <imadper> Hi, my wifi card can't find any networks. And i have do like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1608095  but it still not work. By the way, it's Ralink 3592.
[03:04] <Pilif12p> i'm trying to upload a picture to Facebook, but when I go to my camera, I get the error "Cannot change to folder because it is not local"
[03:05] <schnuffle> delinquentme: okay paste a ls -l /home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2/bin/sratoolkit.2.0.1-ubuntu32/fastq-dump
[03:05] <delinquentme> schmidtm, line 47 is the program that needs to run
[03:05] <Pilif12p> if it matters, the camera is a Finepix S2950, using Aurora
[03:05] <Pilif12p> I stand corrected. This is Fx5 beta
[03:05] <delinquentme> schnuffle, now.. im also running a 64 bit version of ubuntu .. and thats a 32 bit program .. are they backwards compatible?
[03:06] <delinquentme> lrwxrwxrwx 1 unf-ubu unf-ubu 12 2011-06-04 21:46 /home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2/bin/sratoolkit.2.0.1-ubuntu32/fastq-dump -> fastq-dump.2
[03:06] <schnuffle> delinquentme: aah, so you're on 64bit, it can work if you have the 32bit libs installed as weel
[03:06] <schnuffle> as well
[03:06] <delinquentme> haha
[03:07] <babalu> how can I reinstall pulseaudio as fresh ubuntu 10.10 install?
[03:07] <delinquentme> 32 bit library ... for ubuntu or that program?
[03:07] <babalu> anyone?
[03:07] <w30> delinquentme, getlibs is what you need to run 32 bit Apps on 64bit OS
[03:07] <Smackwho> Pilif12p, u probably want to save the images locally first rather than uploading from camera.
[03:08] <Pilif12p> here's another issue: It won't connect properly
[03:08] <delinquentme> babalu, MAIN MENU >> Applications >> Ubuntu Software Center  >> type in program name .. and click 'remove'
[03:08] <naijaura> does anyone know how to mount a esata hdd on ubuntu 10.10 please.. kind of new to the OS
[03:08] <Pilif12p> nevermind. it does
[03:08] <delinquentme> w30, sudo apt-get install getlibs?
[03:08] <rozander1> KM0201:  no luck :(
[03:08] <naijaura> anyone pls
[03:08] <naijaura> :(
[03:08] <babalu> how can I reinstall pulseaudio as fresh ubuntu 10.10 install? anyone plz
[03:09] <KM0201> hmm... rozander1 i'm out of ideas... whats the chipset on the other device?
[03:09] <rozander1> uhh iam not sure....i think i can actually install this theirs just the Hal problem
[03:09] <delinquentme> w30, schnuffle theres also a CENT OS .. x64 version .. would that be a better choice?
[03:09] <rozander1> becouse i have the disk and the linux bit of it with all the make files and a .tar.gz
[03:10] <schnuffle> delinquentme: yes of course
[03:10] <delinquentme> schnuffle, oh.. really? so any linux build will be just fine?
[03:11] <rozander1> KM0201:  i get this error when i try make the file make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic-pae'
[03:11] <rozander1> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/HAL/rtl8192'. Stop.
[03:11] <rozander1> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic-pae'
[03:11] <rozander1> make: *** [all] Error 2
[03:11] <fartypants> HI
[03:11] <Jon--> My sound outputs both to my internal speakers and to my external headphones. How can I set it to only send out to the headphone output when a device is plugged in?
[03:12] <fartypants> I just downloaded a raw file from sourgeforge and its a purple diamond
[03:12] <fartypants> what do I do next?
[03:12] <fartypants> I suppose its not like running a exe file
[03:13] <endgame> how do i read/compile a PHP file in ubuntu? i have LAMP installed on my coomputer
[03:13] <dtsund> Is there any way to override do-release-upgrade default behavior?  There doesn't seem to be a man page...
[03:14] <rozander1> KM0201:  I ALSO HAVE A SUPPLICANT
[03:14] <rozander1> OH SORRY CAPS
[03:14] <rozander1> lmao and again. oops
[03:14] <FloodBot1> rozander1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:14] <schnuffle> delinquentme: I would stay with the ubuntu binaries and install the 32bit libs. see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How to Make 32-bit Applications Work on a 64-bit Operating System
[03:14] <Senix> I have a bit of a problem with WinFF in Ubuntu, It gives me this error when converting things into mp3: Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame'
[03:15] <KM0201> rozander1: did you by chance figur eout the chipset on the second device?
[03:15] <rurufufuss_> guys, question: it is possible to have both 64bit and 32bit ubuntu on the same machine (dual boot) right?
[03:15] <rozander1> yeh unfortunatly its the same one as this
[03:15] <KM0201> rurufufuss_: i don't see why not.
[03:15] <KM0201> oh ok.
[03:15] <fartypants> Do I have to move this diamond shape icon to the BIN folder? in order for it to work?
[03:15] <w30>  delinquentme http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790
[03:15] <semitones> how difficult is it to compile a kernel module?
[03:16] <rurufufuss_> thanks KM, is 64 bit as widespread as 32bit, and is it supported widely?
[03:16] <rozander1> ruru no it isnt
[03:16] <KM0201> rurufufuss_: not really, if you have hardware compatibility issues, 32bit is really the place to be.
[03:16] <rozander1> 32 bit is more supported but most new applications support 64
[03:16] <Sanctusorium> Does anyone know how to start the freenx program?  I restarted my computer and I don't know how to start it up :P
[03:16] <rurufufuss_> I see
[03:16] <KM0201> rurufufuss_: how much ram do you have?
[03:16] <rurufufuss_> but you need 64bit to get more than 4GB ram eh?
[03:17] <rurufufuss_> 2GB right now, it seems
[03:17] <rozander1> only in windows i think ?
[03:17] <KM0201> rurufufuss_: not really...
[03:17] <KM0201> !pae | rurufufuss_
[03:17] <rurufufuss_> oh thanks!
[03:17] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[03:17] <sigmab3ta> hey everyone. anyone been having issues with natty and glibc version 2.13?
[03:17] <KM0201> rurufufuss_: if you install 32bit on a system w/ more than 3.2gigs of ram, the installer will detect that, and automatically install the PAE kernel.. which i think supports of to 16gigs
[03:18] <bazhang> sigmab3ta, what issues
[03:18] <rozander1> KM0201:  if the problem is this HAL thing...does 10.04 support hal
[03:18] <Jon--> My sound outputs both to my internal speakers and to my external headphones. How can I set it to only send out to the headphone output when a device is plugged in?
[03:18] <KM0201> rozander1: i think so..
[03:18] <dtsund> RevSpecies116: Looks like it is possible to upgrade, but the process for expired versions is somewhat involved. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades if you're somehow still interested
[03:18] <sigmab3ta> for example when I try to run VLC with XvBA decoding (accelerated decoding through radeon graphics card) i get a VLC segfault
[03:18] <rozander1> how do you downgrade
[03:18] <dtsund> Thanks anyway!
[03:18] <bazhang> rozander1, you dont
[03:18] <sigmab3ta> dmesg traces it to "error 4 in libc-2.13.so"
[03:18] <bazhang> rozander1, full reinstall
[03:18] <rozander1> lol i kinda need to so i can use wireless
[03:19] <rozander1> really. god sake
[03:19] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle:  Tried there.  The command it tells me to use with the path way just get Ubuntu to lecture me about how I should just call the service.
[03:19] <Sanctusorium> The service that isn't running <_<
[03:19] <KM0201> rozander1: i'm not aware of any OS, that supports "downgrading".. windows included
[03:19] <rurufufuss_> question: has there been anyone that managed to run Mac OSX snow leopard on vmware, on ubuntu?
[03:19] <bazhang> Jon--, try padevchooser pavucontrol
[03:19] <rurufufuss_> like, how viable is it?
[03:19] <bazhang> rurufufuss_, since thats illegal, no
[03:20] <rozander1> hmm so ....can 11.04 not support Hal...
[03:20] <rurufufuss_> right, thanks
[03:20] <fartypants> I tried to install MANDVD and it says this...
[03:20] <rozander1> is their no way to reverse the obselecense of it
[03:20] <fartypants> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package mandvd
[03:20] <larrylooch> t
[03:20] <fartypants> Does this means in installed?
[03:20] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: I don't see your problem. When you launch the freenx server you can't connect to it with the client? Normally the client opens a ssh connection and launches the server itself before connecting
[03:20] <bazhang> !info mandvd
[03:21] <bazhang> fartypants, no such package exists, what do want it for
[03:21] <fartypants> bazhang: no I downloaded it from sourceforge
[03:21] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: I don't know how to start the server.  :P
[03:21] <KM0201> fartypants: then you need to compile it
[03:21] <bazhang> fartypants, to do what
[03:21] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: can you connect with ssh to your server?
[03:21] <fartypants> right now its a purple diamond
[03:21] <Sanctusorium> Yep, already am :)
[03:22] <rozander1> hm
[03:22] <fartypants> fartypants: I liked this software for burning dvd's
[03:22] <rozander1> i think buying a new wireless card might be the way to go lol
[03:22] <bazhang> fartypants, explain exactly what you need it for
[03:22] <schnuffle> Okay so what happens when you start the NX-Client on some other PC and try to connect?
[03:22] <fartypants> bazhang: burning dvd's
[03:22] <w30> How can I have a lower panel in Classic and not one in Unity?
[03:22] <fartypants> bazhang: it encodes it and burns it
[03:22] <fartypants> good software
[03:22] <bazhang> fartypants, many exist in ubuntu already no need for that
[03:22] <KM0201> fartypants: go here, and download the .deb, it will install much easier...  http://www.getdeb.net/software/2ManDVD
[03:23] <Jon--> My sound outputs both to my internal speakers and to my external headphones. How can I set it to only send out to the headphone output when a device is plugged in?
[03:23] <rozander1> so anyone any ideas before i give up and buy a new one lmao
[03:23] <bazhang> Jon--, read what I said earlier
[03:23] <Jon--> bazhang, There isn't an already installed package to do this?
[03:24] <Sanctusorium> The NX service is not available or the NX access was disabled on host IPHERE
[03:24] <bazhang> Jon--, have you tried what I suggested or not
[03:24] <fartypants> KM0201: it says could not find package
[03:24] <KM0201> ..
[03:24] <xekon> neat
[03:24] <KM0201> fartypants: hld on
[03:25] <fartypants> ok KM0201
[03:25] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: Did you run the nxsetup script?
[03:26] <KM0201> fartypants: can you give me the link where you downloaded that program?(the one you currently have, the diamond)
[03:26] <Sanctusorium> Nope.  :P  None of the tutorials said to do that.  *Sigh*  This is how I run linux, lots and lots of tutorials and then the awesome people here when things go wrong
[03:26] <fartypants> KM0201: right here...
[03:26] <fartypants> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csgib/
[03:27] <mouse_> What's the terminal command for changing the sound output to a certain percentage?
[03:27] <KM0201> hagn on
[03:27] <w30> Jon--, I thought that was almost a hardware thing; Did you look in your bios settings for a tweek?
[03:27] <Sanctusorium> There it is!  Found it on the ubuntu community page.
[03:27] <Sanctusorium> :)
[03:27] <bazhang> mouse_, check alsamixer
[03:27] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: So check if you have the script available, if not download it from https://bugs.launchpad.net/freenx-server/+bug/576359/+attachment/1378450/+files/nxsetup.tar.gz
[03:28] <mouse_> bazhang, I did.  I'm not having trouble changing the volume right now.  I want to write a script and I'm wondering if there's a command to change the volume in the terminal.
[03:28] <djmaster> how do i run taz.gz
[03:29] <bazhang> djmaster, of what package
[03:29] <Senix> I have a bit of a problem with WinFF in Ubuntu, It gives me this error when converting things into mp3: Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame'
[03:29] <djmaster> bazhang, themes
[03:29] <bazhang> Senix, it's installed? or not
[03:29] <bazhang> djmaster, drag to theme manager, dont unpack it
[03:30] <Senix> bazhang: yes 'sudo apt-get install libmp3lame0'
[03:30] <djmaster> bazhang, ty
[03:30] <Sanctusorium> Wait.  *facepalm*  I DID do that.  But lets see if re running it after I rebooted did anything.
[03:30] <bazhang> Senix, ripping from cd? or converting flac and the like to mp3
[03:30] <Sanctusorium> Nope
[03:30] <Sanctusorium> I still get the "not available" issue
[03:30] <semitones> how can I troubleshoot this error? "cp: cannot create regular file `/home/warren/.config/autostart/': Is a directory"
[03:30] <Senix> bazhang: converting flac to mp3
[03:31] <sirfartsalotzSti> hi
[03:31] <Jon--> bazhang, I am reluctant to install packages I may not need if I don't have to.
[03:31] <semitones> I checked and i couldn't find either a file or directory with that
[03:31] <Sanctusorium> Is the set up just a script that basically says "do you want to install the default key or make your own?"
[03:31] <w30> AJ4X, I missed your private message window, I got it now
[03:31] <bazhang> Jon--, good luck then
[03:31] <Sanctusorium> I use the default key because I would not know what to do when making my own
[03:31] <Jon--> w30, I am pretty sure I've had it only playing over headphones before on Ubuntu, and the laptop can certainly do so on the Windows partition.
[03:32] <djmaster> bazhang,  it did not work
[03:32] <bazhang> djmaster, whats the link, what was the error
[03:32] <Sanctusorium> Whao!  Got it to connect some how!
[03:32] <w30> Jon--, that sucks don't it?
[03:32] <djmaster> bazhang,  was no error just would not drag to
[03:33] <bazhang> djmaster, whats the link
[03:33] <Sanctusorium> Thanks for helping :)
[03:33] <djmaster> hold on
[03:33] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: :) your welcome
[03:33] <KM0201> fartypants: hang on a sec, think i found the answer
[03:34] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: I miiiight ask for one more piece of advice.  I'm running a VPS and it wants me to now select a desktp...
[03:34] <fartypants> KM0201: ok
[03:34] <Sanctusorium> I prefer LXDE due to ram saving
[03:34] <KM0201> fartypants: for what its worth, i don't think that package you downloaded, is put together properly
[03:34] <Sanctusorium> How could I add that to the list?
[03:34] <Jon--> w30, ... yes?
[03:34] <sirfartsalotzSti> i have a question ,ever since i updated to ubuntu 11.4, have been unable to launch mozilla firefox. All my files also show /home/usrname
[03:34] <Jon--> My sound outputs both to my internal speakers and to my external headphones. How can I set it to only send out to the headphone output when a device is plugged in?
[03:34] <Sanctusorium> Or is that a question for #nx?
[03:34] <fartypants> KM0201: you mean the link you gave me?
[03:34] <bazhang> Sanctusorium, install lubuntu-desktop
[03:34] <fartypants> KM0201: or the sourceforge one
[03:34] <KM0201> fartypants: no, the one you gave me
[03:34] <fartypants> ok
[03:34] <KM0201> (although the one i gave you, isn't working either)
[03:34] <sirfartsalotzSti> i have no problems launching google chrome
[03:34] <Sanctusorium> bazhang: Okie!  :)
[03:34] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: you mean that you want a LXDE env when connecting with NX?
[03:34] <fartypants> KM0201: ya
[03:34] <Phong_> hi guys, why i use Ubuntu 11.04 and the usb wireless never connect? i've try like 2 usb wireless
[03:35] <Phong_> any clue?
[03:35] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: Yep!
[03:35] <bazhang> !wifi | Phong_
[03:35] <Phong_> my usb wireless works nicely on windows 7
[03:35] <rubbity> The plant then took the guano molecule into it's root... going up it's stalk or shoot it deftly
[03:35] <rubbity> turned into a pollen grain, swept up by a bee taking it to it's nest
[03:35] <rubbity> The nest gave birth to a larvae, which turned into a pupae, and finally into an adult bee
[03:35] <rubbity> The molecule went into the bee's stinger during growth.  Then some kid got stung...
[03:35] <rubbity> it really hurts when it comes from bird shit
[03:35] <rubbity> You fug ug fagheads.
[03:35] <FloodBot1> rubbity: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:35] <Phong_> bazhang, it keeps on trying to connect but it will never connect
[03:35] <djmaster> bazhang, http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/gekosMac?content=142074
[03:36] <rubbity> BUNCH OF DAMN FUCKING ASSHOLES WHO DON'T WANT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS!
[03:36] <KM0201> fartypants: ok, i just tested this, it works fine.. go here, and on the right under "downloadable files" download the mandvd_2.5-5 .deb file...    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/mandvd/2.5-5-0ubuntu2
[03:36] <fartypants> KM0201: mandvd used to be an available option in software downloader
[03:36] <sirfartsalotzSti> i have a question ,ever since i updated to ubuntu 11.4, have been unable to launch mozilla firefox. All my files also show /home/usrname . can anyone help me?
[03:36] <djmaster> bazhang,  and http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Glow+Pack?content=142258
[03:37] <Jon--> bazhang, I installed the controller, but I don't see any way of disabling or enabling the internal speakers.
[03:37] <Sanctusorium> And to counter the negitive spam, I want to thank all of you in this channel who are constantly helping others like.  If it weren't for you, I'd have been stuck and gave up on linux ages ago.
[03:37] <fartypants> Thanks KM0201 but do I have to extract those files somewhere
[03:37] <Sanctusorium> Thanks, so much :)
[03:37] <Jon--> It only lists one output device.
[03:37] <KM0201> fartypants: no, it is an ubuntu package
[03:37] <KM0201> download it, double clickit, it will open software manager, and it should install... (if it doesn't, lemme know)
[03:37] <fartypants> KM0201: I will confess, I am on mint
[03:37] <semitones> I can't tell if this worked or not (compiling a kernel module) http://paste.ubuntu.com/618763/ any help?
[03:37] <KM0201> fartypants: well that would have been good to know, but.. it should be irrelevant
[03:38] <sirfartsalotzSti> i have a question ,ever since i updated to ubuntu 11.4, have been unable to launch mozilla firefox. All my files also show /home/usrname . can anyone help me ?
[03:38] <xidica> i'm experiencing the same ATA type freezes as described at https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15573 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/550559
[03:38] <xidica> SATA* even
[03:38] <fartypants> KM0201: was this the right file?
[03:38] <fartypants> KM0201: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/mandvd_2.5-5.orig.tar.gz
[03:39] <KM0201> fartypants: did you listen to a thing i typed?
[03:39] <fartypants> KM0201: yes
[03:39] <xidica> anyone familiar with this and does libata.force=noncq fix the issue for most people? I'm thinking about reverting to an older kernel if not
[03:39] <fartypants> you gave me a link
[03:39] <sirfartsalotzSti> u talking to me?
[03:39] <fartypants> KM0201: that was the link
[03:39] <KM0201> and i said... "under downloadable files, download th e.deb file"
[03:39] <sirfartsalotzSti>  cos i fart a lot too\
[03:39] <KM0201> ..
[03:40] <Smackwho> sirfartsalotzSti, try uninstalling and reinstalling FF
[03:40] <fartypants> KM0201: ok
[03:40] <fartypants> KM0201: I downloaded that
[03:40] <sirfartsalotzSti> i would luv to do that samck
[03:40] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: are you using XDM?
[03:40] <sirfartsalotzSti>  but i would hate to lose all my saved password
[03:40] <KM0201> fartypants: now, double click it
[03:40] <KM0201> and it should open software center
[03:41] <KM0201> then install it
[03:41] <sirfartsalotzSti> and it's not only firefox , other apps too
[03:41] <fartypants> KM0201: No it doesn't
[03:41] <KM0201> ...
[03:41] <fartypants> it just opens a seperate winrar looking thing
[03:41] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: I believe so.  Is that X server?  If so, I think it got installed when I installed LXDE
[03:41] <fartypants> with a debian and usr folder
[03:41] <KM0201> fartypants: then right click it, and choose open with software center (assuming mint has that)
[03:41] <Sanctusorium> Otherwise, probably not.
[03:42] <KM0201> "good thing mint is so easy"
[03:42] <sirfartsalotzSti> i mean have been using same ubuntu /ff since ubuntu 9 and have upgraded several times without issue
[03:42] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: So you installed the LXDE desktop on a standard Ubuntu install?
[03:42] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: Regular ubuntu server install.  Didn't come with the GUI
[03:42] <delinquentme> w30, so i installed that package.. i dont need it .. its not coming up as an option under the ubuntu software center
[03:42] <Sanctusorium> This is a VPS :)
[03:43] <sirfartsalotzSti>  what i suspect is that i installed nautilus b4 lestest upgrade and seem to have messed with the file and folder permission when the update was done
[03:43] <bazhang> sirfartsalotzSti, nautilus is already installed
[03:43] <xidica> trying to add libata.force=noncq to my kernel paramters in grub, but they no longer store these in menu.lst it appears, I'm looking at /etc/default/grub ... can't seem to find where I'd place this
[03:43] <sirfartsalotzSti> oh i know  ir was installed on the previous kernel
[03:43] <Smackwho> sirfartsalotzSti, 11.04 is a big change from the past... u can backup your FF prefs and import them back in after you reinstall
[03:44] <bazhang> sirfartsalotzSti, that makes zero sense
[03:44] <delinquentme> w30, nm got it
[03:44] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: check the config file /etc/nxserver/node.conf and paste it
[03:44] <sirfartsalotzSti> \ but i remeber doing something to enable me to change the column i see for music  like bitrate,year , when created , u know
[03:45] <sirfartsalotzSti> smack but that is not the only apps i have issues with
[03:45] <lynyrd> ciao
[03:45] <lynyrd> !list
[03:45] <fartypants> KM0201: thats dude it works now :D
[03:45] <fartypants> KM0201: thanks
[03:45] <Smackwho> sirfartsalotzSti, well... you are going to have to take things one app at a time most likly
[03:46] <fartypants> KM0201: where can I get more packages like that so that it opens with software manager?
[03:46] <sirfartsalotzSti> even my grub config file , when i change settings in it and saved successfully, it is not effective on next boot
[03:46] <sylvyor> lotzo group
[03:46] <KM0201> fartypants: just google.. thats how i found that one ( i assume it worked?)
[03:46] <fartypants> KM0201: yes it did
[03:46] <fartypants> KM0201: and thanks for your help
[03:46] <KM0201> np
[03:46] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: I don't think floodbot would like that none too much ;D  I'll paste bin it, but its ALLL commented.  Every last line is commented.
[03:46] <sirfartsalotzSti> really guys I believe issue has to do with file permissions and access under my home folder
[03:47] <notNicolas> dude
[03:47] <sylvyor> call me sylvy
[03:47] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: use pastebin of course :)
[03:47] <notNicolas> is it possible to reformat my iPod into a ubuntu installation USB then reformat it back into an iPod?
[03:47] <fartypants> KM0201: but I mean there is no other site that has packages like that that open in the software manager?
[03:47] <fartypants> KM0201: like a sourceforge site
[03:48] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: Question...  How do I copy the whole document in SSH?  >.>
[03:48] <pie_> is there a way to view the metadata of windows executable files?
[03:48] <Smackwho> notNicolas no.
[03:48] <pie_> such as version number
[03:48] <notNicolas> Darn it.
[03:48] <KM0201> fartypants: you can try getdeb.net   but... it's kinda hit/miss
[03:48] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: with scp, but you can install pastebinit which can aste it direclty and gives you the URL
[03:48] <notNicolas> My notebook doesn't have a disc drive, and I don't have any spare USBs.
[03:49] <sirfartsalotzSti> example i chnage grub settings to make windows the default os to load and i accepts and saved it successfully but it is still loading linux as default
[03:49] <endgame> i am having a hard time trying to get my computer to read PHP files.. can any1 help?
[03:49] <notNicolas> I want to totally reformat my notebook to ubuntu
[03:49] <Smackwho> notNicolas no.
[03:49] <notNicolas> no?
[03:49] <fartypants> KM0201: cool man
[03:49] <sirfartsalotzSti> and don't forget i cannot even edit grub without root acct
[03:49] <fartypants> KM0201: thank you
[03:49] <fartypants> KM0201: take care now
[03:49] <Smackwho> notNicolas sorrry... usbs are cheap...
[03:49] <notNicolas> yeahhh but I don't want to go into town just to buy one
[03:50] <Sanctusorium> http://pastebin.com/wUzKnpXh
[03:50] <sirfartsalotzSti> example i chnage grub settings to make windows the default os to load and i accepts and saved it successfully but it is still loading linux as default
[03:51] <sylvyor> Query: how can I connect my Dynex wireless router to my Versalink Internet DSL Router so that my upstairs comps (mixed OS's) get connected... (Gaggle does offer much info)
[03:51] <sirfartsalotzSti>  and don't forget i cannot even edit grub without root acct
[03:51] <Smackwho> sirfartsalotzSti, I am no grub expert
[03:51] <sylvyor> 2 routers on I-net connection... mucho wireless...
[03:52] <notNicolas> Can I backup the contents of a USB drive, turn it into a ubuntu installation USB, install ubuntu, erase everything from the USB and copy back all the stuff I had on it?
[03:52] <djmaster> help i run 3 linux and it has firestarter as a firewall   r there better fierwalls for linux
[03:52] <KM0201> !iptables | dj
[03:53] <djmaster> 3 computers (left it out)
[03:53] <sirfartsalotzSti> grub is pretty straight forward and am using control center to edit it
[03:53] <KM0201> djmaster: see above
[03:53] <sirfartsalotzSti> i meant start up manager interface
[03:53] <Senix> bazhang: I have fixed my issue, It seems that there was a couple of packages that i didn't install to begin with.
[03:54] <Smackwho> notNicolas as long as you dont overwrite the partition where you do the backup when you install Ubuntu
[03:55] <pie_> is there a way to view the metadata of windows executable files such as version nubmber, descripption, etc?
[03:55] <pie_> exes, dlls and such tend to have them
[03:55] <sirfartsalotzSti> what folder can i find the executables for all my apps like firefox e.t.c
[03:56] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: I can't test it but I would check following: set session type to unix-custom and change the config file in line 496. to start a LXDE session with  setting  DEFAULT_X_WM="" to  /path/to/lxsession-lite
[03:56] <djmaster> sirfartsalotzSti,  fille system usr/bin
[03:57] <sirfartsalotzSti> thx sir
[03:57] <sylvyor> so, what I have is a natty server installed on an older box which I am trying to i-net connect through a dynex wireless router to a verizon westell which is the dsl connection to the internet.  I do have a Laptop and a Desktop (Natty also) that are connected W/L already... any help out there for this?
[03:59] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: Okie :)  I'll see what I can do.  I would just use gnome, but since its a VPS, I am trying to do GUI as simple as possible.  If I go over resources, it doesn't get slow... It just uses more and the hosting co that I have just makes this face: $v$
[03:59] <sylvyor> ... and a glass of wine...
[04:00] <semitones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/618763/ any idea if this worked or not?
[04:00] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: here'S a solution: http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/9nunmjC95AqDvMLCzP0J
[04:00] <Phong_> guys, you have to help me on this, i can't get usb wifi to connect to my network..it keep on trying and trying and failed
[04:01] <Phong_> this is very annoying, cause i know my usb wifi works, because it works in Windows 7
[04:01] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: Alright!  You are awesome! :D
[04:01] <monkey1883> what brand is it?
[04:01] <Phong_> me?
[04:01] <monkey1883> yes
[04:01] <Phong_> tenda and Belkin
[04:01] <Phong_> i tried both
[04:01] <Phong_> and both aren't connect, but it works fine in windows.
[04:01] <monkey1883> hav you tried installing any drivers?
[04:01] <KM0201> Phong_: whats the chipsets on them... ? my belkin works fine, plug it in, "just works"
[04:02] <Phong_> monkey1883, driver?
[04:02] <Phong_> i dont know much about ubuntu man
[04:02] <izinucs> Ok.. I can see my launcher bar and the fact that Firefox is running but minimized.. It won't allow me to bring it forward.. how do I fix that?
[04:02] <Phong_> monkey1883, my phylosophy is that if it works on windows, it should work on ubuntu or any OS
[04:03] <monkey1883> Phong_ what are some things that are written on the belkin?
[04:03] <Phong_> BELKIN N wirless
[04:03] <Phong_> ver: 1011
[04:03] <djmaster> bazhang, it wont work what do i do now?
[04:03] <sirfartsalotzSti> phong was it detected by ubuntu  when u plugged it in
[04:03] <sylvyor_> hmmm... I found a thing written on google about Belkin.
[04:04] <DrPenguin> Hello everyone! Have any onf u running Ubuntu 11.04 64bit been experiencing an abnormal number of lock ups and crashes?
[04:04] <Phong_> sylvyor_, i've tryied Tenda as well
[04:04] <Phong_> Tenda N 11
[04:04] <sylvyor_> I have a Belkin USB Wireless working on my Desktop
[04:04] <Phong_> both aren't working in ubuntu
[04:04] <sylvyor_> work beautifully
[04:04] <monkey1883> Phong_, what is the model? besides belkin n wireless?
[04:05] <Phong_> F5D8053
[04:05] <Phong_> monkey1883, i also have: tenda w311u
[04:05] <izinucs> I can't launch anything off the launcher bar. How do I reset it?
[04:06] <jonholio> Hello, I have a very simple question. Can anyone tell me why I can't use ctrl-q to quit applications when using 11.04?
[04:06] <izinucs> jonholio: try alt+F4
[04:06] <sylvyor_> hmmm.... I so saw this like a month a ago.... let me see if I saved the url for the fix... there is a thing that you have to do to get it to use another driver....
[04:07] <KM0201> Phong_: thats weird, i think mine is an 8053..
[04:07] <Phong_> it's F5D8053
[04:07] <KM0201> Phong_: well, yeah..
[04:07] <KM0201> pretty sure thats what mine is.
[04:08] <jonholio> izinucs: yep I know that works ok, but is a bit awkward compared to  ctrl-q
[04:08] <Phong_> KM0201, it keeps on connecting but never connect and failed
[04:08] <KM0201> hmm
[04:08] <izinucs> jonholio: never used that combo myself.. so I never got use to it.
[04:08] <notNicolas> whoa guys
[04:08] <KM0201> Phong_: have you tried setting you  network to "no security" and seeing if it will connect?
[04:08] <notNicolas> have you ever double clicked the icon at top left of the window?
[04:09] <sylvyor_> have you tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1382798
[04:09] <Phong_> KM0201, haven't try that yet
[04:09] <Phong_> lol
[04:09] <Konata> I have a complaint
[04:09] <monkey1883> Phong_:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1382798&highlight=F5D8053 try this
[04:10] <sylvyor_> hahaha...Right on Monkey!
[04:10] <Konata> Running 10.04 in VMWare. Installed network-manager-openvpn along with dependencies earlier
[04:10] <Konata> Trying to configure the connection. I imported the client.ovpn file that I need.
[04:10] <Konata> For some reason, when I click Apply, close, and then reopen to edit the VPN connection again, the CA/User/etc. certificates are all replaced with directories
[04:11] <w30> jonholio, are you using Unity or compiz? if so use compiz config settings and change lt and F4 to ctrl q
[04:11] <TR4X> help.  How do I fix the choppy av playback for everything in lucid 64 bit?  Clean install, latest ISO, still broken.
[04:11] <KM0201> monkey1883: thats a good find.. looks pretty simple
[04:11] <Phong_> monkey1883, i have question about this line: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic
[04:11] <Phong_> does that need internet connection?
[04:11] <sylvyor_> 2 answers / 2 people = potentially good find... hahahaha
[04:11] <iush> everytime I connect my HP printer, i need to download and install it driver to make it work
[04:11] <jonholio> w30: I have tried in both Unity and classic Gnome and is the same in both.
[04:12] <monkey1883> Phong_: Have you had your Ubuntu computer hooked up to the internet at all? like with a cable?
[04:12] <Phong_> monkey1883, nope
[04:12] <sylvyor_> phong... yes... (assumed that you have a wired connections)
[04:12] <sylvyor_> sudo apt-get install will poll online....
[04:12] <Phong_> monkey1883, it' snot convenience for me,, how about this, i set my router not to use password
[04:12] <Phong_> and try to see if it is connect
[04:12] <Phong_> if it is, then i do the instruction okay?
[04:12] <monkey1883> would you be able to hook it up to the computer?
[04:12] <KM0201> Phong_: i doubt that will work, as it seems to be a driver issue.. it was just a thought.
[04:13] <KM0201> Phong_: you really need wired access to fix this problem.
[04:13] <w30> jonholio, are you using compiz in classic also?
[04:13] <Phong_> KM0201, i'll give it a try
[04:13] <KinglyCitrus> Hello, everyone.
[04:13] <sylvyor_> agree with KM
[04:13] <Phong_> ok i'll find a lone wire
[04:13] <Phong_> brb
[04:13] <sylvyor_> I had to wire in to get the right drivers for mine to work...
[04:13] <jonholio> w30: yep
[04:13] <sylvyor_> how are you connected now phong?
[04:13] <MishaFashionista> Hi there everyone, I have an HP envy and I was wondering if anyone could help me get the dual monitors working. The monitors program on ubuntu doesn't recognize anything out of the hdmi
[04:14] <KM0201> sylvyor_: my guess is, on another computer
[04:14] <w30> jonholio, then you should to edit compiz settings and change it
[04:14] <TR4X> help.  How do I fix the choppy av playback for everything in lucid 64 bit?  Clean install, latest ISO, still broken.
[04:14] <sylvyor_> KM... yeah... been there too... ;)
[04:15] <sirfartsalotzSti> oh yes fellas remember whe i said i believe reason my firefox is not opening might due to file permission? reason is I can right click firefox in bib and choose open as admim and it opens
[04:15] <sylvyor_> I wired in from the comp that I was having the wireless prob on and was able to get the drivers that I needed by being wired in...
[04:15] <sylvyor_> otherwise, it's driver, dependency hell
[04:15] <monkey1883> sylvyor: yeah, that was my idea
[04:16] <w30> jonholio, ctrl q isn't used anywhere else I don't think
[04:16] <jonholio> w30: thanks I will try that. Seems a bit silly to need to have to do it though.
[04:16] <sirfartsalotzSti> but then it open up with new user profile , my bookmarks e.t.c are all missing since profile is admin when it opened
[04:16] <KM0201> sylvyor_: unfortunately, thats the one bad thing, about most drivers, software, etc.. being in online repos.
[04:16] <w30> jonholio, this Unity thing gets sillier every day *sigh*
[04:16] <KinglyCitrus> Anyone know much about streaming pulseaudio over ssh? Been poking around different channels trying to figure it out...
[04:18] <MishaFashionista> Anyone know how to get dual monitors working on an ati 5650
[04:18] <monkey1883> Is there anyone here that likes Unity? I, for one, do(works better on my netbook, which is my primary computer)
[04:18] <sylvyor_> so... I am looking for a way to connect a wireless router to another wireless router (which is my i-net connection)... got like 4 comps that need an access point via wireless...
[04:18] <notNicolas> uhhmmm
[04:18] <notNicolas> can I INSTALL ubuntu ONTO a computer using a USB installation, or can I only run it from the USB?
[04:18] <MishaFashionista> You can bridge a router
[04:18] <jonholio> Argh ccsm won't  let me set <Control>q as the Close Window binding.
[04:18] <monkey1883> sylvyor_: like, do want a repeater?
[04:18] <MishaFashionista> You can install and run it
[04:18] <w30> jonholio, I think Conical hired a bunch of MS and Mac coders and are trying to make them play nice together
[04:19] <notNicolas> ok, good.
[04:19] <TR4X> anyone know anything about pulseaudio's problems?
[04:19] <jonholio> monkey1883: I think it's not too bad. Apart from this ctrl-q thing!
[04:19] <sylvyor_> KM, yeah... I beat my head against that wall for about a day before I realized that running 75 ft of wire was easier than trying to figure out how to get it to work w/l
[04:19] <TR4X> Has anyone had any solution to choppy audio/video playback in 10.04?
[04:20] <KM0201> sylvyor_: lol
[04:20] <monkey1883> jonholio: were you trying to trick me, or something?
[04:20] <sylvyor_> monkey... hadn't thought of that...
[04:20] <KinglyCitrus> Yea, basically, I've got a headless server running in a VM, bridged to the network. X over SSH works fine to run remote programs on my laptop, but I'm having difficulty configuring the audio setup correctly.
[04:20] <excedere> TR4X, proper video drivers installed?
[04:20] <MishaFashionista> sylvyor you can bridge one router so then you can use it as an access point kinda
[04:20] <TR4X> excedere: yes.  installed and activates.
[04:20] <jonholio> monkey1883: no no, I have a problem with my Ubuntu where control-q doesn't quit applications.
[04:21] <monkey1883> jonholio: really? that's weird. it works for me
[04:21] <excedere> TR4X, tried another player?  I have issues sometimes with VLC, but parole works flawlessly
[04:21] <TR4X> excedere: a/v works fine in natty on my machine, but I'm demonstrating the LTS to my boss for potential deployment
[04:22] <Samatros> I have a theory that modelines have no effect over HDMI on an intel GM45 chipset. Is there any way to verify this theory?
[04:22] <MishaFashionista> Later guys
[04:22] <jonholio> monkey1883: yeah it's very frustrating.
[04:22] <TR4X> I just can't fix the a/v issue in 10.04
[04:22] <sylvyor_> Misha: that's where I was headed next...
[04:22] <sylvyor_> thanks
[04:22] <TR4X> it seems to be a pulseaudio problem, although i'm not sure
[04:22] <sirfartsalotzSti> oh yes fellas remember whe i said i believe reason my firefox is not opening might due to file permission? reason is I can right click firefox in bib and choose open as admim and it opens
[04:23] <TR4X> excedere: I've tried every player I can think of.  Even the mighty mplayer is fail.
[04:23] <sylvyor_> Haven't gotten into bridging yet... any good links out there?
[04:23] <phong_> KM0201, hi brother
[04:23] <phong_> KM0201, i got it work by a link that show me
[04:23] <phong_> KM0201,  no need internet at all
[04:23] <monkey1883> jonholio: do u use alt-f4 much? if not, you can go to "keyboard shortcuts" and
[04:23] <KM0201> phong_: good, but i didn't show it.. someone else did.
[04:24] <phong_> KM0201, i got my Tenda w311u working now...works like a charm
[04:24] <KM0201> good.
[04:24] <sirfartsalotzSti> oh yes fellas remember whe i said i believe reason my firefox is not opening might due to file permission? reason is I can right click firefox in /usr/bin and choose open as admim and it opens
[04:24] <sylvyor_> awesome... success !!!!
[04:24] <phong_> it's about sudo gedit ......./blacklist.conf
[04:24] <sylvyor_> haha... forgot about the blacklist thing....
[04:24] <sylvyor_> :D
[04:24] <excedere> TR4X, strange indeed.. what kind of video hardware are you running?
[04:24] <monkey1883> jonholio: then change "close window" under window management to ctrl-q
[04:24] <phong_> KM0201, all i have to do is add blacklist  xxxxxxx 3 lines of codes
[04:24] <KM0201> hmm, ok
[04:24] <sylvyor_> man, once the KT goes by... it goes away...
[04:25] <TR4X> excedere: I've noticed the choppiness corresponds to spikes in cpu usage for some gvfs processes and pulseaudio.
[04:25] <phong_> KM0201, i'll try to figure out the belkin
[04:25] <phong_> KM0201, can my pc connect 2 usb wirless?
[04:25] <KM0201> phong_: possibly, but i'd leave well enough alone
[04:25] <tsok> OctoByte, you there?
[04:25] <phong_> why?
[04:26] <TR4X> excedere: I'm pretty sure it's not the video hardware Nvidia gts250
[04:26] <sylvyor_> will work on bridging tomorrow...
[04:26] <KM0201> you don't wanna start having driver conflicts, etc
[04:26] <phong_> let me try the other one
[04:26] <phong_> okay
[04:26] <sylvyor_> agrees with KM...
[04:26] <TR4X> excedere: it does the same thing with audio files..
[04:26] <phong_> let me try belkin.brb
[04:26] <Samatros> Is there a channel specific to Intel Graphics?
[04:26] <jonholio> monkey1883: I have tried that and it won't let me set it as control q unfortunately.
[04:26] <sylvyor_> KM: Phong's gonna break the sys by trying too hard...
[04:27] <tsok> .
[04:27] <bazhang> !alis | Samatros
[04:27] <Samatros> bazhang: Thanks!
[04:27] <KM0201> sylvyor_: lol, well, at least he knows how what to do when he has to reinstall
[04:27] <phong_> KM0201, lol both works now
[04:28] <KM0201> phong_: that means they likely use the same driver
[04:28] <phong_> KM0201, u meant i don't need to install driver for each brand ?
[04:28] <phong_> lol
[04:28] <phong_> KM0201, nicely..both are working ;)
[04:28] <KM0201> apparently not, they must have the same chipset/driver.
[04:28] <phong_> i c
[04:28] <sylvyor_> KM: Luck Dragon has given Phong a coin!
[04:28] <phong_> golden coin
[04:28] <sylvyor_> :)
[04:29] <phong_> sylvyor, my feed skin are cracking..i am so hurt
[04:29] <phong_> :(
[04:29] <phong_> drying skin ;(
[04:29] <Ashtray777> Can anyone tell me how to get a remote file using scp when my ssh server uses rsa authentication?
[04:29] <sylvyor_> no need for hurt phong... all is good fun.
[04:29] <sirfartsalotzSti> oh yes fellas remember whe i said i believe reason my firefox is not opening might due to file permission? reason is I can right click firefox in /usr/bin and choose open as admim and it opens
[04:29] <monkey1883> jonholio: sorry, don't know what to tell ya
[04:29] <sirfartsalotzSti> any ideas?
[04:30] <jonholio> monkey1883: don't worry, I will survive :) I appreciate your help.
[04:30] <excedere> TR4X, I googled.. most of the links seem to point to conflicts with certain audio drivers and pulseaudio
[04:31] <excedere> hopefully someone with more audio knowledge than myself can chime in
[04:31] <sylvyor_> excedere: what OS installation?
[04:31] <sylvyor_> just catching up with the audio convo.
[04:32] <excedere> sylvyor_, TR4X is on 10.03 I believe
[04:32] <[deXter]> Hi all, is there a way to make a gnome panel stay on desktop such that other windows can cover it or maximize over it?
[04:32] <monkey1883> anyone know of a good source for learning about the terminal/bash scripting? i have some basic knowledge, but i feel that with linux as my primary operating system, i should learn more. i've been using linux on and off for years, but now i only use windows for itunes
[04:32] <TR4X> sylvyor_: 10.04 AMD64
[04:32] <sylvyor_> let me read back a bit
[04:33] <bazhang> !abs > monkey1883
[04:33] <[deXter]> monkey1883: iTunes can be run under Linux using Wine.
[04:33] <phong_> KM0201, i just want to tell you that i really love ubuntu
[04:33] <TR4X> sylvyor_: latest ISO. downloaded and installed yesterday.
[04:33] <phong_> KM0201, and i want to let you know, i hate Mac..fuking mac
[04:33] <KM0201> phong_: lol, well i'm glad
[04:33] <KM0201> ..
[04:33] <TR4X> sylvyor_: recently updated
[04:34] <bazhang> phong_, watch the cursing
[04:34] <monkey1883> [deXter]: I know, but I cannot sync my iPod that way
[04:35] <[deXter]> monkey1883: Ah, if you just want it for syncing your iPod, there are other alternatives..
[04:35] <phong_> KM0201, i notice that Ubuntu runs faster then windows
[04:35] <nickjohn1on> Is anyone able to lend me a hand with a raid boot issue?
[04:36] <KM0201> phong_: typically...
[04:36] <djmaster> monkey1883. try armorack
[04:36] <monkey1883> [deXter]: Not currently. I have an iPod touch with iOS 4.3, and i haven't found anything simple that works
[04:36] <sylvyor_> TR4X: are you running Ubuntu Studio specifically?
[04:36] <nickjohn1on> I have four disks, each identically partitioned. The boot partition is RAID1, and the rest is RAID5. I recently upgraded to bigger drives online, by replacing and rebuilding the array after each drive
[04:36] <TR4X> sylvyor_: No.  default desktop install
[04:37] <nickjohn1on> Now when I boot, I get kicked out to an initramfs shell because it can't set up the array correctly. When I look at /proc/mdstat, it shows it's somehow assembled a single raid5 array from the whole drive (not the partitions), which obviously doesn't work
[04:37] <djmaster> my bad armarok
[04:37] <nickjohn1on> mdadm --stop /dev/md1; mdadm --assemble --scan; fixes it fine, though
[04:37] <nickjohn1on> Does anyone know why this happens, and what I can do to fix it?
[04:37] <phong_> KM0201,  is it good idea to instal WINE?
[04:37] <sylvyor_> hmm.. you might have better luck getting you HW running with Studio because they set up configs to target video and audio hardware that default doesn't
[04:38] <sylvyor_> I am running studio on my laptop and it can handle just about anything (AMD64)
[04:38] <monkey1883> djmaster: do you mean amarok?
[04:39] <sylvyor_> where as my desktop (32b-default) would have to be manipulated like hell to get some of the basic audio fun running)
[04:39] <TR4X> sylvyor_: can't be done, I'm demonstrating it for an office environment.
[04:39] <sylvyor_> oooh.
[04:39] <sylvyor_> hmm...
[04:39] <sylvyor_> {tapping fingers}
[04:39] <djmaster> monkey1883, yes keybored all messed upp
[04:40] <monkey1883> djmaster: ok haha
[04:40] <TR4X> sylvyor_: requires pulseaudio for simultaneous VOIP and media playback, otherwise it won't even get a loook in.
[04:40] <TR4X> djmaster: studio uses jack AFAIK.
[04:40] <djmaster> TR4X, ?
[04:41] <sylvyor_> Jack rocks...
[04:41] <TR4X> djmaster: ?
[04:41] <djmaster> TR4X, ??
[04:41] <sylvyor_> at one point, I had jack, hooked into a windows incarnation of reason... that was sick...
[04:41] <sylvyor_> anyway...
[04:42] <sylvyor_> TR4X, what's your drop off point?
[04:42] <TR4X> bawww, s**ts me to tears.
[04:42] <sylvyor_> when are things hitting the fan?
[04:42] <acovrig> I know this isn't *the* place to ask, but does anyone know how to loop through an array and write each value to a file in c++ (or give me a channel name)?
[04:42] <TR4X> sylvyor_: no deadline yet
[04:43] <sylvyor_> hmmm.
[04:43] <djmaster> how do u run multi screan in xfce?
[04:43] <TR4X> acovrig: #c++
[04:43] <laverne_> i've finally had it with windows and i'm ready to take the linux plunge. anything i should know/do before i install ubuntu 11.04?
[04:43] <TR4X> sylvyor_: It should just work.  Natty works, but it's not LTS so not an option
[04:43] <excedere> djmaster, what video card do you have?
[04:43] <acovrig> TR4X: thanks-I thought I tried that :)
[04:44] <nickjohn1on> My question in one place. Help would be _much_ appreciated: http://serverfault.com/questions/277085/linux-fails-to-reassemble-raid-array-after-disk-upgrade
[04:44] <sylvyor_> yeah... TR4X... i know... I am tryin to think through what could be stopping it...
[04:44] <djmaster> excedere,  idk its the dell latitude c640 defult
[04:45] <TR4X> !pastebin
[04:45] <sylvyor_> it's almost like you would have to write the code that already exists non LTS to get them to buy in...
[04:45] <excedere> djmaster, You'll need to find that out since each config is likely going to be dependent on what hardware you're running
[04:46] <excedere> djmaster, The laziest thing to do would be to enter the service tag at dell.com and view the hardware specs
[04:46] <TR4X> sylvyor_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/618804/ that's my hardware
[04:46] <djmaster> excedere,  well its a pci if that helps
[04:46] <sylvyor_> TR4X: I work in the enterprise industry myself so i know your frustration...
[04:47] <excedere> chances are its intel,
[04:47] <TR4X> sylvyor_: yeah I know, I was only planning to pitch some cheap workstations, but they need top notch a/v
[04:47] <phong_> i love this channel
[04:48] <pietr101> hello guys, i'm having some trouble with one of my harddrives. smart says it's ok, but i get dmesg errors (http://pastebin.com/rrPFaTAh) can anyone pls tell me what is going on?
[04:49] <sirfartsalotzSti> ok can someone do me a favor PLS . in their /usr/bin folder can u check the permission for ur firefox for me . Mine shows owner and group and i don't see permission for users in mine
[04:49] <phong_> does CloneZilla boot from usb?
[04:49] <phong_> i wish clonezilla has usb boot
[04:49] <TR4X> sylvyor_: I wonder if it's a kernel issue.  might have a look for bugs in the modules
[04:50] <KM0201> phong_: it can usb boot.
[04:50] <sylvyor_> TR4X: depends on if they are trying to serve Enterprise level or Public Market...
[04:50] <sylvyor_> h,,,...
[04:50] <sylvyor_> hmm.
[04:50] <phong_> KM0201, really how?
[04:50] <phong_> KM0201, cause right now i boot from CD
[04:50] <KM0201> phong_: how?
[04:50] <sylvyor_> LTS will be slimmed for public ...
[04:50] <phong_> i download the clonezilla and burn to CD
[04:51] <sylvyor_> might not be a bug...
[04:51] <KM0201> ok.. download the ISO..
[04:51] <KM0201> google "unetbootin"   and use unetbootin to unpack it to a thumb drive so you can boot it... should work just fine
[04:51] <sylvyor_> perhaps a designed limitation...
[04:51] <Senix> how do i add artist names, album name, and album art to music in Ubuntu 11.04?
[04:51] <sirfartsalotzSti> ok can someone do me a favor PLS . in their /usr/bin folder can u check the permission for ur firefox for me . Mine shows owner and group and i don't see permission for users in mine
[04:51] <sirfartsalotzSti> anyone?
[04:51] <TR4X> sylvyor_: Well, I don't know anyone who would want to plug this into their tv with this appalling playback.  I noticed canonical had put an advert on the pulseaudio website for an audio programmer.
[04:52] <Senix> sirfartsalotzSti: pls don't use talk liek dis pl0x
[04:52] <sylvyor_>  that could ba a selling point come to think of it...
[04:52] <mrdeb> TR4X: did they? about time
[04:52] <mrdeb> maybe linux sound will be fixed some day
[04:52] <laverne_> hmmm...maybe i won't. thanks for all the help
[04:52] <Senix> sirfartsalotzSti: and please restate your problem i don't quite understand.
[04:52] <sylvyor_> yeah... I've been off of PA for a while... though when PA came out... it was the HS..
[04:53] <sylvyor_> things change so fast in tech.
[04:53] <TR4X> mrdeb: well, I don't think Shuttleworth's goal of 200m users will be achieved if ubuntu can't play a simple video
[04:54] <pietr101> hello guys, i'm having some trouble with one of my harddrives. smart says it's ok, but i get dmesg errors (http://pastebin.com/rrPFaTAh) can anyone pls tell me what is going on?
[04:55] <TR4X> starting to rage.  going down for another clean install and trying to find if it's a package that is causing the problem.
[04:55] <Vectory> If pppoe is configured, does that mess with the dhcp i usual use?
[04:55] <w30> sirfartsalotzSti, mine is a simlink to firefox.sh which is owned by root and group root and exec for everyone but read only by root and root group
[04:55] <mrdeb> TR4X: it can play it with VLC
[04:55] <TR4X> mrdeb:  too choppy to watch.
[04:56] <TR4X> TR4X: same with mplayer
[04:56] <mrdeb> if ubuntu didnt have vlc, it would lose millions of users
[04:56] <mrdeb> vlc makes or breaks a distro
[04:56] <sylvyor_> hehe... TR4X: that's ubuntu can't play a simple video (using n conditions with a LTS (limited system) on an audio architecture that's pretty friggin complicated...
[04:56] <Vectory> Totem is usually good enough
[04:57] <sirfartsalotzSti> pietr101 looks like sector errors , don't quote me though cos am not an expert
[04:57] <TR4X> sylvyor_: ha yes, I now have a feeling it might be the KDE compatibility stuff that's causing this.
[04:57] <mrdeb> KDE is not all that compatible
[04:57] <sylvyor_> eh... VLC....
[04:57] <sylvyor_> TR4X.... really... KDE?
[04:57] <sylvyor_> nah
[04:57] <pietr101> sirfartsalotzSti: any advice how to get sure?
[04:57] <sylvyor_> never...
[04:57] <TR4X> mrdeb: sylvyor_: It got worse when I installed kvirc and ktorrent
[04:57] <tsok> After installing GRUB2 after a windows 7 install I get the error that the file "\NST\AutoNeoGrub0.mbr" is not found or corrupt, any help?
[04:57] <djmaster> excedere,  brb im geting it
[04:58] <sylvyor_> kde is perfect (can you smell the sarcasm dripping to the floor)?
[04:58] <sirfartsalotzSti> piet no
[04:58] <RevT> Kphuqued
[04:58] <sylvyor_> k = kill?
[04:58] <TR4X> sylvyor_: mrdeb: it might not be the root of the problem, but it may give me an idea as to why pulseaudio can't handle... too many connections or some such
[04:58] <sirfartsalotzSti>  i know if a hard drive is failing , the data in that sector will be moved to another sector , that is as much as i know
[04:58] <madsailor> I am trying to import a pdf on natty with the default libre office, and having no luck.  The Libre office site says PDF import is standards v3.3 or later, but my file isn't importing correctly.  Is this related to non-free issues, or is there something else I am missing?
[04:58] <mrdeb> kde is good for about 5 minutes. then you realize it offers decreased usability compared to gnome 2
[04:59] <sirfartsalotzSti>  thx w38 for the firefox permission
[04:59] <mrdeb> TR4X: what cant it handle
[04:59] <TR4X> sylvyor_: mrdeb: I'm using the default gnome, but just installed some KDE packages.  It made it even worse.
[04:59] <nit-wit> tsok, you using easybcd?
[04:59] <tsok> nit-wit: I have it on my windows 7 install but I can not boot to it.
[05:00] <mrdeb> TR4X: just play one sound at a time
[05:00] <TR4X> mrdeb: sylvyor_: I have a hunch that when lots of processes are accessing it, it can't handle.
[05:00] <excedere> Depending on your target audience, XFCE is probably the most idiot proof
[05:00] <nit-wit> tsok, I'm not familiar with it.
[05:00] <sirfartsalotzSti> Senix , my issue is i cannot open my firefox using my regular user profile . But if i right click firefox .exec in usr/bin and choose run as administrator , it opens
[05:00] <sylvyor_> yeah... the threads get heavy when the kde libraries get involved.
[05:01] <sirfartsalotzSti>  but the firefox that opens is a brand new profile missing my bookmarks and my setting since it was launched as administartor
[05:01] <bobsomebody> anyone in here running xbox live through an iptables masq nat?
[05:01] <TR4X> mrdeb: even when I am only playing one sound, several process are still interacting with pulse.
[05:01] <phong_> KM0201, how to install 7z
[05:02] <phong_> when i start the usb create thing it ask that i dont have 7z
[05:02] <Vectory> Can noone answer my pppoe q?
 really don't know if u can fix that cos it's just a bad sector on ur harddrive
[05:02] <mrdeb> TR4X: so it slows down, yes?
[05:02] <bobsomebody> TR4X, is that a pulse audio error? I get that all the time playing back music on rythmbox
[05:02] <phong_> KM0201, nevermind i got it
[05:02] <mrdeb> the problem is that audio in linux is tied to the main processes for some reason
[05:03] <Vectory> Im online using my handy, its expensive
[05:03] <mrdeb> the kernel should be divided up to separate key process types like audio and video, and other cpu tasks
[05:03] <sirfartsalotzSti>  think of it like playing music on old LP ,it will continue to skip  if ur record player pins goes thru that groove
[05:03] <TR4X> sylvyor_: mrdeb:  and I'm using a 3.4ghz quad core, it glitches or skips chunks of audio, which also interferes with video playback as the decoder tries to sync output.
[05:03] <pietr101> sirfartsalotzSti: i just bought the disk two weeks ago. do you think i can return it for replacement?
[05:03] <sirfartsalotzSti> but if u don't play that groove then there is no skip
[05:03] <mrdeb> TR4X: it's not the hardware. it's linux
[05:04] <sirfartsalotzSti> u might be better off returning it if u still can
[05:04] <TR4X> mrdeb: yes, I understand that.
[05:04] <sirfartsalotzSti>  cos it will not get better
[05:04] <sylvyor_> TR4X... honestly, it sounds like your best bet is to start from scratch... as painful as that is... you might be better off building the system from ground up than trying to solve the issues that are caused by dependent libraries.
[05:04] <phong_> KM0201, u there?
[05:04] <TR4X> sylvyor_: Yes, I tried that.  Fresh install yesterday.  same problem
[05:04] <sirfartsalotzSti>  might not get worse either but your computer will not write anything to that sector again
[05:04] <mrdeb> it plays fine for the most part, but you will have skipping
[05:04] <mrdeb> it doesnt even matter which distro
[05:04] <TR4X> mrdeb: and rage.
[05:05] <sylvyor_> if you can't use studio then start with a vanillia install / no audio and work your way up from there...
[05:05] <phong_> KM0201, UNetbootin, i am confused about "Space used to preserve files across reboots (Ubuntu Only)" what is this?
[05:05] <TR4X> mrdeb: natty works perfectly
[05:05] <mrdeb> TR4X: with what
[05:05] <sylvyor_> hmm...
[05:05] <TR4X> mrdeb: sylvyor_: natty works perfectly for a/v on the same hardware.
[05:05] <sylvyor_> but using natty ain't the $$$ right?
[05:05] <gsr> Hi all.  I'm using qbittorrent as my bittorrent client.  After updating (and subsequently downgrading), when I try to close bittorrent, the gui shuts down, but the process remains as a zombie.  Further, this <defunct> zombie takes up 90-100% of the CPU!  What could be causing this? I try to kill it (kill -9 PID), and this does nothing.
[05:06] <sirfartsalotzSti> w30> thx
[05:06] <sylvyor_> gotta be 10.04
[05:06] <mrdeb> 10.04 has more stuttering with audio
[05:06] <TR4X> sylvyor_: sylvyor_: remember, I can't use natty because it's not LTS and I am trying to demonstrate this for an enterprise workstation deployment.
[05:06] <mrdeb> i noticed that. so it's probably the drivers or kernel
[05:06] <gsr> From what I understand, zombie processes aren't supposed to be able to take up any resources.  Is there any way to kill a zombie (besides chopping off its head)?
[05:07] <TR4X> mrdeb:  I thought it could be kernel modules too.
[05:07] <lunarblaze> i need unrestricted access to ALL files. how do i do this?
[05:07] <sylvyor_> yep... my statement wasn't a question it. i was point of interest.
[05:07] <mrdeb> why do you need perfect audio for enterprise
[05:07] <sylvyor_> mrdeb... have you work w/ enterprise solution before?
[05:08] <TR4X> mrdeb: it's the first thing the boss will call me in to fix
[05:08] <excedere> Does anyone know how to close the playlist in parole media player?
[05:08] <lunarblaze> anyone?
[05:08] <mrdeb> sylvyor_: no
[05:08] <JayWalker__> jay
[05:09] <mrdeb> TR4X: tell him to reboot
[05:09] <mrdeb> lol
[05:09] <TR4X> sylvyor_: mrdeb: everything worked fine in 8.04 :/
[05:09] <sylvyor_> getting it right, the firt time around is the difference between asking for $$ and requiring $$$..(count the $)
[05:09] <madsailor> I am trying to import a pdf on natty with the default libre office, and having no luck.  The Libre office site says PDF import is standards v3.3 or later, but my file isn't importing correctly.  Is this related to non-free issues, or is there something else I am missing?
[05:09] <ari__>  #ubuntu-indonesia
[05:09] <sylvyor_> trust me...
[05:09] <mrdeb> so is 8.04 better
[05:09] <sylvyor_> getting the right A/V solution for TR4X is a good thing...
[05:09] <mrdeb> i never used it
[05:10] <kaushal> hi
[05:10] <kaushal> can someone please guide me about https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2011-June/245771.html
[05:11] <TR4X> sylvyor_: mrdeb: I might give debian a try.
[05:11] <sylvyor_> TR4X, mrdeb.. I have to head off now... i'll see what I can find... otherwise... good luck...
[05:12] <sylvyor_> I have alway just convinced people that ubuntu studio was created for A/V solutions and that they should use that instead of a vanilla solution...
[05:12] <mrdeb> sylvyor_: is studio good
[05:12] <sylvyor_> but my world may be different that yours.
[05:13] <sylvyor_> mrdeb... for A/V... yeah...
[05:13] <mrdeb> does it perform better
[05:13] <sylvyor_> studio is up to date but they target a/v hardware issues where default targets office usability...
[05:13] <sylvyor_> for a/v yes.
[05:14] <sylvyor_> depends on the need
[05:14] <mrdeb> how do they target it. replace modules?
[05:14] <mrdeb> what can they relaly do
[05:14] <sylvyor_> not replace... update, upgrade and install (by default) other necessary components not needed by the default...
[05:15] <micahg> kaushal: so, with sources files, they all need to end in .list, however, ones that are not found at the time of update will be ignored, so you could have one for internal and one for external
[05:15] <sylvyor_> the studio market is professional musicians (i.e. Black Eyed Peas, etc)
[05:15] <mrdeb> well, what do they do to improve the skipping for example
[05:15] <mrdeb> peas use ubuntu?
[05:16] <sylvyor_> :S
[05:16] <sylvyor_> :D
[05:16] <kaushal> micahg: ok
[05:16] <kaushal> micahg: I have two separate files
[05:16] <sylvyor_> as well as Propellerhead Reason...
[05:16] <mrdeb> odd
[05:16] <sylvyor_> why odd?
[05:17] <mrdeb> well mac is supposed to be for that
[05:17] <tsok> After installing GRUB2 after a windows 7 install I get the error that the file "\NST\AutoNeoGrub0.mbr" is not found or corrupt, any help?
[05:17] <sylvyor_> mac is built on unix
[05:18] <sylvyor_> {shrug}
[05:18] <mrdeb> ok
[05:18] <mrdeb> but it has proper driver support, which i thought would be key for a professoinal audio station
[05:18] <dan_> hello
[05:18] <mrdeb> maybe i will try ubuntu studio
[05:19] <sprink> what is the package name for the "Startup Disk Creator" used on the ubuntu download page, to write the .iso to a usb drive? Is there a alternative in debian? I am trying to create the ubuntu usb stick from a debian system
[05:19] <d_atharva> Hi.First I would used to download videos from youtube by copying the video from /tmp.but now I am unable to copy as the file does not exist.How can I download the videos from youtube ???
[05:19] <sylvyor_> mrdeb: it's fun... I like it...
[05:19] <kaushal> micahg: Please suggest further
[05:19] <tsok> d_atharva: when watching a youtube video, replace "youtube.com" with "keep-tube.com"
[05:19] <micahg> kaushal: I answered your question
[05:19] <kaushal> micahg: yeah
[05:19] <tsok> d_atharva: it's a website that will allow for downloading youtube videos
[05:19] <mrdeb> sylvyor_: does it come with other programs too for normal usage
[05:19] <kaushal> How do i switch it automatically
[05:19] <dan_> I recently tried getting rid of the unity shell and put gnome3 on... but i had a dependency problem with a games package... so i removed gnome3 and attempted to reinstall unity... now it installed, but unity won't load up on boot.... can anyone please help me, i've searched online for hours
[05:20] <sylvyor_> I have studio on my laptop and haven't had any probs hookin up audio hardware... the only video issue that I have had with it is for netflix...
[05:20] <d_atharva> tsok : let me try it..
[05:20] <sylvyor_> but that's a linux thing not a studio or ubuntu thing
[05:20] <micahg> kaushal: as I said, you can have both enabled and apt will ignore the one that's unreachable
[05:21] <kaushal> micahg: i did it but it actually sucks
[05:21] <sylvyor_> mrdeb... totally...
[05:21] <sylvyor_> check it out...
[05:21] <kaushal> micahg: like when i am in office it should switch to local and out of office switch to global
[05:21] <dan_> can anyone help me?
[05:22] <d_atharva> tsok : thanx dude..Download has started....   :)
[05:22] <sylvyor_> if you are a fan of choosing your software, then I hope that you will be happy with the default selection that's available
[05:22] <micahg> kaushal: another idea is to set  up hooks based on the network connection, but someone else would have to help you configure that
[05:22] <sylvyor_> dan: how?
[05:22] <dan_> : I recently tried getting rid of the unity shell and put gnome3 on... but i had a dependency problem with a games package... so i removed gnome3 and attempted to reinstall unity... now it installed, but unity won't load up on boot.... can anyone please help me, i've searched online for hours
[05:22] <[an]droidman> sprink: its brasero disc berner
[05:23] <tsok> d_atharva: no problem, i use it all the time :)
[05:23] <hithere> hi there
[05:23] <sylvyor_> mrdeb: it all depends on what you consider as normal software.
[05:23] <hithere> while ubuntu deos seem to be more awesome than Linux Mint because of unity
[05:23] <kaushal> Can someone please pitch in ?
[05:23] <hithere> it deos not have it's own awesome video site
[05:23] <hithere> http://linuxmint.mirocommunity.org/
[05:23] <[an]droidman> dan_: you can reset unity by doing "unity --reset" from the terminal it will reset all addons to the launcher though
[05:24] <hithere> They made a miro community page with many of the linux mint videos @ http://linuxmint.mirocommunity.org/
[05:24] <sylvyor_> dan:  I had the same type of prob... I just when through the installation again and defaulted everything...also... was unity running before you attempted gnome 3?
[05:25] <hithere> has anyone seen http://linuxmint.mirocommunity.org/
[05:25] <d_atharva> ysok : do u know any software which is substitute for Internet download manager for ubuntu ?? It should increase downloading speed..
[05:25] <dan_> yes, i think it might have been
[05:25] <hithere> ubuntu needs something as awesome as v
[05:25] <hithere> http://linuxmint.mirocommunity.org/
[05:25] <sylvyor_> btw... I used unity for a while and personally, it was a pain... ended up going back to ubuntu classic...
[05:25] <[an]droidman> ...
[05:25] <hithere> yes Jdownloader
[05:25] <hithere> rocks
[05:25] <[an]droidman> !ops
[05:25] <hithere> just like IDM
[05:25] <[an]droidman> spam much there
[05:26] <IdleOne> [an]droidman: what's up?
[05:26] <[an]droidman> spam by hithere
[05:26] <hithere> @<d_atharva> Jdownloader
[05:26] <sylvyor_> do you want to go back to unity because you liked it or because that is what was installed with Natty?
[05:26] <hithere> I loved Unity
[05:26] <IdleOne> !ot | hithere
[05:27] <dan_> syl: I just want to go back to something that works... unity wasn't that bad
[05:27] <[an]droidman> new to it, didnt exactly mean to abuse the bot...if i knew that command i wouldve used it, lol
[05:27] <IdleOne> [an]droidman: no problem, now you do :)
[05:27] <[an]droidman> lol
[05:28] <bobsomebody> anyone in here running xbox live through an iptables masq nat?
[05:28] <sylvyor_> when you login, you have the choice to use ubuntu or ubuntu classic... i would start with ubuntu classic then see if you can remove unity then reinstall it through the classic UI...
[05:29] <sylvyor_> if that doesn't work you might have to scrap and start again... the reason why I asked if it had been running is that unity requires a good deal of graphical processing power and so does gnome 3...
[05:29] <ameriserf> notcj
[05:29] <dan_> oh right, graphics aren't a problem....
[05:30] <dan_> got a decentish gfx card in
[05:30] <dan_> not please about having to reinstall lol
[05:30] <Nisstyre> yes
[05:30] <Guest23372> excedere, its a ati radon 7500
[05:30] <sylvyor_> gnome 3 has been known to have issues with natty so ppl are at an interesting crossing point... there are hits out there on google and other SE that talk about the subject so I am surprised that you havent found a solution
[05:31] <dan_> right, i've uninstalled everything to do with unity with synaptics manager, and installed unity again along with dependencies
[05:31] <djmaster> excedere,  its a ati radon 7500
[05:31] <excedere> djmaster, You'll need to install the drivers from ati and the aticonfig utility
[05:31] <[an]droidman> sylvyor_: most of them are probably a bit technical, and most likely few show how to unscrew up unity
[05:32] <sylvyor_> dan: yeah, I always back up, kill and reinstall my OS every few months or year.... just because things are so chaotic out there...
[05:32] <dan_> going to try rebooting....
[05:32] <djmaster> excedere, how
[05:32] <excedere> ati.com
[05:32] <dan_> lol only installed ubuntu yesteday
[05:32] <sylvyor_> [an]droidman: I know what you mean...;)
[05:32] <djmaster> ok
[05:32] <ameriserf> bithes
[05:32] <excedere> aticonfig is probably available via apt-get /shrug
[05:32] <rww> ameriserf: Hi! What?
[05:32] <[an]droidman> people show you how to do something and warn you what happens when you screw up, but dont tell you what to do
[05:33] <Guest10170> hi
[05:33] <ameriserf> hi fucker
[05:33] <ameriserf> gtet over it
[05:33] <Guest10170> good nithg
[05:33] <sylvyor_> [an]droidman: they are also usually the ones laughing about the flotsom spashingin in the pool after the waves of confusion hit the shores.
[05:34] <Guest10170> good
[05:34] <Guest10170> speek spanish
[05:34] <Guest10170> spanish
[05:34] <rww> !es
[05:34] <IdleOne> sylvyor: [an]droidman Please try to stick to support in here, feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[05:34] <[an]droidman> sylvyor_: the ones who make you delete the kernel to "speed up your windows system"
[05:34] <dan_> is there are command to revert to fresh install on ubuntu, i had to install ubuntu through raw access to drive on virtualbox on another machine
[05:35] <[an]droidman> gotcha
[05:35] <IdleOne> thank you
[05:35] <Guest10170> thanks
[05:35] <Guest10170> !
[05:35] <sylvyor_> hahahahaha!!!!!! oh the timing on those posts were perfect....
[05:35] <Senix> !help
[05:35] <Guest10170> spanish
[05:35] <m4v> Guest10170: ? you were asking for the english channel in #ubuntu-es
[05:35] <Senix> !lol | sirfartsalotzSti
[05:35] <Guest10170> aqui nadia habla en español
[05:36] <sirfartsalotzSti> lol
[05:36] <IdleOne> Guest10170: escribi /join #ubuntu-es
[05:36] <draugon> omfg
[05:36] <sirfartsalotzSti> am trying to be young and hip
[05:36] <sylvyor_> dan_: do you have a backup of your vital information?
[05:36] <sirfartsalotzSti> am gonna get facebook soon
[05:36] <IdleOne> draugon: please don't
[05:36] <sylvyor_> I sould start from stratch...
[05:36] <Guest10170> baby
[05:36] <sylvyor_> but that's me.
[05:37] <Guest10170> baby
[05:37] <Senix> sirfartsalotzSti: the way you talk is annoying to many people i think -o- so please try a little harder to use proper english.
[05:37] <Guest10170> world spanish
[05:37] <tensorpudding> lots of trolls tonight, eh
[05:37] <Senix> so tired of it
[05:38] <KM0201> tensorpudding: always si late at night
[05:38] <avuton> Could anyone recommend a web service to store and retrieve files from my local webserver.
[05:38] <tsok> anybody familiar with EasyBCD errors?
[05:38] <tsok> After installing GRUB2 after a windows 7 install I get the error that the file "\NST\AutoNeoGrub0.mbr" is not found or corrupt, any help?
[05:38] <[an]droidman> sylvyor_: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:39] <tensorpudding> avuton: a service for writing and reading from a server? there's quite a few of those
[05:39] <sylvyor_> sometime... trying to save the pretty face is less important that saving the vitals.... as long as you can get to your vital information, I would back it up, then rebuild
[05:41] <simpleblue2> .
[05:42] <excelsior> anyone running bitcoin on their Ubuntu box?
[05:44] <roark> how do i specify ports in etc/hosts file
[05:44] <roark> i have a web server running on port 5000
[05:44] <CarlFK> roark: you don't
[05:44] <excelsior> bitcoin?
[05:44] <roark> CarlFK: I tried changing /etc/services file so that www points to port 5000
[05:45] <roark> i still couldnt get it working
[05:45] <tmg> roark: hosts file is for names mapping
[05:45] <roark> tmg: how can i override default port of 80 for web servers
[05:45] <roark> CarlFK: how can i override default port of 80 for web servers
[05:45] <tmg> roark: well it has nothing to these files, you just have to change your httpd config so it will run on other port...
[05:45] <CarlFK> roark: in the server's config
[05:46] <roark> i dont want to run my webserver on port 80
[05:46] <roark> that requires sudo permission
[05:46] <tmg> so just tell us what are you want to do
[05:47] <TR4X> I think I found a workaround for my pulseaudio problem.  still testing it
[05:47] <roark> tmg: i want some random domain name say ... www.google.com on my ubuntu box to be redirected to 127.0.0.1:5000
[05:47] <CarlFK> roark: there are many parts to that problem
[05:47] <tmg> oh ok, so you have to configure your httpd to listen at port 5000
[05:47] <tmg> then you add the domain into hosts file
[05:48] <roark> CarlFK: can you help me solve those parts
[05:48] <tmg> you know, /etc/hosts is only mapping for the name, port has to be binded and used by the server
[05:48] <roark> i changed /etc/hosts to 127.0.0.1 www.google.com
[05:48] <StaticSense> can someone help me with the ubuntu install? :)
[05:48] <CarlFK> roark: tmg is doing pretty good
[05:48] <roark> CarlFK: cool
[05:48] <celthunder> StaticSense: what about it
[05:49] <roark> tmg: how do i override httpd to listen to port 5000
[05:49] <celthunder> roark: what are you using for an httpd
[05:49] <roark> its a web server callled paste
[05:49] <roark> that comes with pylons
[05:49] <roark> a python framework
[05:49] <roark> i am running that on port 5000
[05:50] <StaticSense> ok, well i'm trying to install, but i keep getting an error
[05:50] <CarlFK> roark: what do you run to start the server ?
[05:50] <celthunder> StaticSense: ok more useful would be the error
[05:50] <celthunder> roark: theres an httpd called paste? never heard of it
[05:50] <StaticSense> stdin: I?O error
[05:50] <tmg> roark: put in etc/hosts: 127.0.0.2   paste
[05:50] <celthunder> StaticSense: when
[05:50] <tmg> and try this
[05:51] <tmg> but you have to setup vhost in your httpd to use 127.0.0.2 anyway
[05:51] <roark> paste is a daemon
[05:51] <StaticSense> i hit english, and then choose to install ubuntu, and it says ubuntu 11.04 with 4 white dots
[05:51] <StaticSense> and if i hit any key, it'll show that
[05:51] <roark> not sure if you want me to put a daemon/process' name into /etc/hosts file
[05:51] <celthunder> StaticSense: is your install media damaged?
[05:51] <StaticSense> i just burnt it, it shouldn't be
[05:52] <celthunder> roark: that would alias paste to 127.0.0.2
[05:52] <NikkiC> is anyone here who knows stuff about lxde ?
[05:52] <CarlFK> roark: what do you run to start the server ?  (really)
[05:52] <tmg> roark: ok simply: /etc/hosts is a place where you can force address-name translation, that's all about the file...
[05:52] <djmaster> excedere,  could not find it
[05:52] <celthunder> NikkiC: out of 1k people not one person here uses lxde
[05:52] <roark> paster serve --reload development.ini
[05:52] <CarlFK> there we go.
[05:52] <celthunder> NikkiC: that was sarcasm btw..
[05:53] <roark> udo netstat -anp | grep 5000 tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:5000          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      9755/python
[05:53] <NikkiC> erm :)
[05:53] <roark> but the process name which is listening on 5000 is python
[05:53] <roark> since paste is a webserver written in python
[05:53] <TR4X> excelsior: nope, pulse still bork
[05:53] <CarlFK> roark: in development.ini, does it say port = 5000 ?
[05:54] <roark> ya
[05:54] <roark> CarlFK: ya
[05:54] <CarlFK> then you are done.
[05:54] <celthunder> TR4X: what have you tried so far (just got here sorry)
[05:54] <tmg> it is listening @localhost:5000
[05:54] <roark> tmg: yes
[05:54] <tmg> where is the problem?
[05:54] <CarlFK> lol
[05:54] <tmg> you want new name?
[05:55] <roark> tmg: i have 127.0.0.1 www.google.com in /etc/hosts file
[05:55] <tmg> so?
[05:55] <roark> so when i point my browser to www.google.com
[05:55] <roark> it searches for a web server on port 80
[05:55] <roark> and its returning me 404
[05:55] <TR4X> celthunder: tried every media player I can think of but audio keeps skipping and glitching, affecting video playback too.  10.04 amd64, clean install latest iso, HW list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/618804/
[05:55] <StaticSense> ok, so i tried the disc check option, and the purple screen comes up again, saying ubuntu 11.04 with 4 white dotds
[05:56] <roark> but i want it to go to port 5000 and fetch a page that is hosted there
[05:56] <CarlFK> roark: browsers default to port 80.  just add :5000 to the www.google.com
[05:56] <tmg> ok, so everything works, except your web server which gives 404 instead some page?
[05:56] <roark> tmg: yes
[05:56] <CarlFK> tmg: no :_
[05:56] <[an]droidman> StaticSense: are the dots moving?
[05:56] <[an]droidman> as in, flashing on/off
[05:56] <CarlFK> I sense 2 webservers
[05:56] <StaticSense> yes, they become highlighted
[05:56] <celthunder> TR4X: ok got enough cpu/ram ?
[05:57] <roark> CarlFK: no there is only 1
[05:57] <[an]droidman> then its doing something right now, how long has it been like tha
[05:57] <roark> there is nothing listening on port 80
[05:57] <NikkiC> celthunder: well im trying to figure out how to get a key on my keyboard to function as a mouse key.. .. but there is no such settings in the gui (lxinput)
[05:57] <CarlFK> roark: then you wouldn't be getting a 404 from port 80.
[05:57] <[an]droidman> s/tha/that
[05:57] <celthunder> NikkiC: xmodmap
[05:57] <TR4X> celthunder: 3.4ghz amd quad, 6GB DDR3 1300
[05:57] <celthunder> TR4X: lol ok sorry didn't actually look at the hardware link...should probably do that now huh
[05:57] <TR4X> celthunder: sorry 6GB DDR3 1600mhz
[05:57] <tmg> roark: and do you have *good* setup for 127.0.0.1 vhost in your webserver config?
[05:58] <roark> CarlFK: you are right it s not a 404
[05:58] <roark> CarlFK: browser complains it is not able to connect
[05:58] <TR4X> celthunder: pretty sure it's not hardware.
[05:58] <roark> CarlFK: my bad
[05:58] <tmg> 404 is like the web server is not configured well, you have no perms to read /
[05:58] <roark> tmg: not sure if paste supports vhost
[05:58] <CarlFK> roark: paste the output from wget http://localhost:5000
[05:58] <TR4X> celthunder: seems to be either kernel or pulseaudio
[05:59] <celthunder> TR4X: might be a better way to test this but...just to prove it's pulse and not something else to blame can you setup mpd playing on a pulseaudio sink and play it through another comp?
[05:59] <roark> tmg: my bad its not 404
[05:59] <TR4X> celthunder: mpd?
[05:59] <celthunder> TR4X: er setup pulse to play through a sink and set mpd to use it
[05:59] <ifconfig1> I don't want to boot from my MBR.  Can I just get a bootable CDROM to stick in the drive and boot from that instead of botting from the hard drive?
[05:59] <celthunder> TR4X: it's music player daemon
[05:59] <CarlFK> tmg: you need to use the force.  just reading what is said in irc isn't enough :)
[05:59] <roark> wget http://localhost --2011-06-04 21:59:19--  http://localhost/ Resolving localhost... ::1, 127.0.0.1 Connecting to localhost|::1|:80... failed: Connection refused. Connecting to localhost|127.0.0.1|:80... failed: Connection refused.
[05:59] <TR4X> celthunder: gotcha
[06:00] <CarlFK> roark: you need to learn to follow directions.  try again.
[06:00] <celthunder> TR4X: it'll let you play the audio stream through another computer though/your phone / whatever...
[06:00] <tmg> CarlFK: :)
[06:00] <CarlFK> roark: and use pastebin
[06:00] <celthunder> ifconfig1: yes?
[06:00] <NewUbuntuUser> Hey guys, I have a question about floppy disk mount in ubuntu, anybody can assist?
[06:00] <w30> !pastbin
[06:00] <ifconfig1> How can I get a bootable CDROM to boot from instead of having to boot from my hard-drive and relying on the MBR? (in case the MBR Failed)
[06:01] <roark> CarlFK: not sure why you want me to paste the output from http://localhost:5000
[06:01] <CarlFK> w30: there is an e in paste.  and a d in wd40 :)
[06:01] <w30> !pastebin
[06:01] <celthunder> ifconfig1: just make a cdrom that's bootable..the stock ubuntu install one should work fine
[06:01] <roark> CarlFK: http://pastebin.com/Kw6T5rc7
[06:01] <w30> CarlFK, thakns
[06:01] <tmg> roark: you did wget for :80 and you are talking about :5000... im confused
[06:01] <StaticSense> ok, now i keep geting this weird message saying worker [86] failed while handling "/devices...
[06:02] <w30> CarlFK, *smile*
[06:02] <CarlFK> tmg: one of you is confused.
[06:02] <ifconfig1> celthunder: Really?  Even if the server is un-manned?
[06:02] <CarlFK> roark: still not doing it.  there is a 5000 in :5000
[06:02] <roark> CarlFK: haha ok
[06:02] <ifconfig1> It will boot up by itself?
[06:03] <celthunder> ifconfig1: no
[06:03] <roark> http://pastebin.com/BUcU8zyi
[06:03] <roark> sry guys
[06:03] <ifconfig1> celthunder: OK.  I need one that will boot without interaction
[06:03] <celthunder> ifconfig1: point still is valid though ...set up the bootloader on the cd how you want it and leave it in the drive then
[06:03] <w30> CarlFK, w30 is for production option option W30 for a 1970 Oldsmobile 442
[06:03] <ifconfig1> To take the place of the MBR
[06:04] <ifconfig1> K.  And where do I get the bootloader from?
[06:04] <roark> CarlFK: in case you missed my above msg
[06:04] <roark> CarlFK: http://pastebin.com/BUcU8zyi this is the output with running it on  port 5000
[06:04] <CarlFK> roark: ok, your server is on 5000.
[06:04] <roark> ya
[06:04] <celthunder> TR4X: how's that working?
[06:04] <celthunder> TR4X: still skippy?
[06:04] <ifconfig1> celthunder Could you point me to the url to get the bootloader?
[06:05] <celthunder> ifconfig1: sure in a minute
[06:05] <ifconfig1> celthunder Or do I need to copy the boot image?
[06:05] <TR4X> celthunder: yes, still skippy.  it was ok for a while, but then started skipping.
[06:05] <CarlFK> roark: the easy solution to this is browse www.google.com:5000 - the hard way is port forwarding.  which is beyond my powers.
[06:05] <roark> CarlFK: ok
[06:06] <roark> CarlFK: can you point me to forwarding , does that involve changing /etc/services file
[06:06] <avernos> i have a broadcom wifi card, i've installed the driver, i can see networks with sudo iwlist scanning, but notthing shows up in the nm-applet, any idea?
[06:06] <tmg> well port forwarding will not help so much and will make it more harder anyway ;]
[06:06] <roark> ok
[06:06] <roark> anyways thanks guys
[06:06] <CarlFK> roark: and no to the 2nd question too.
[06:07] <ifconfig1> celthunder I only need the stock bootloader for centos 5
[06:07] <ifconfig1> Wooops - I'm on Ubuntu :-)
[06:07] <celthunder> lol
[06:07] <TR4X> celthunder: it's like the first process to access the pulse server gets priority
[06:07] <celthunder> TR4X: ok so it'sprobably pulse then
[06:08] <celthunder> TR4X: are you running pulse systemwide as root or as the user
[06:08] <TR4X> celthunder: and keeps it even after you close the application
[06:08] <celthunder> (the daemon)
[06:09] <TR4X> celthunder: I'm running as user, but I added myself to the audio, pulse and pulse-access groups earlier to try and fix this
[06:09] <celthunder> TR4X: ok and alsa / oss played flawlessly?
[06:10] <ari__> #ubuntu-indonesia
[06:10] <TR4X> celthunder: VLC uses ALSA by default, that still skips, but not as badly.
[06:11] <ari__> #
[06:11] <tmg> I have good question, i think, not ubu related but to PC at all... how would you test what's wrong when you get crashes with kernel msg like 'interrupt not syncing' (or it was something similar)
[06:11] <TR4X> celthunder: actually, no it was using pulse too
[06:11] <celthunder> TR4X: kk can you try not using pulse
[06:11] <TR4X> celthunder: give me a sec to test with alsa
[06:13] <TR4X> celthunder: ok video playback seems fine when I use ALSA for audio output in VLC
[06:13] <celthunder> ok
[06:14] <yagoo> tmg, use some hardware test tool.. like S.M.A.R.T test tools (like sysrescuecd or ultimatebootcd)
[06:14] <TR4X> celthunder: but occasionally there are little micropops, not nearly as annoying as what I was getting form pulse though.
[06:17] <celthunder> TR4X: ok...hmm did  you try using diffent audio modules
[06:17] <celthunder> older/newer versions
[06:17] <TR4X> celthunder: how would I do that?
[06:18] <celthunder> has it ever worked right?
[06:18] <TR4X> celthunder: not with 10.04, but natty works flawlessly.
[06:18] <MrBushido> sorry to be offtopic but does anybody know how i could find out what ports an application is using on windows 7? #windows is being quiet on the subject :<
[06:19] <llutz_> MrBushido: no reason to post offtopic here
[06:19] <basso> MrBushido: you google the application name+ports?
[06:19] <murcia-martinell> buenas
[06:20] <MrBushido> hehe, i ask here and i get a reply in the other chan! "netstat -no" for those who care <3
[06:20] <TR4X> celthunder: my kernel is 2.6.32-32-generic
[06:20] <tmg> yagoo: thanks, ill check with ultimatebootcd, looks like a good start
[06:20] <draugon> MrBushido: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntcmds.mspx?mfr=true
[06:21] <punkinhell> hi
[06:21] <w30> MrBushido, run zenmap from a linux box on it
[06:21] <TR4X> celthunder: yeah now ALSA is even worse than pulse.  I'm guessing you were right about the modules
[06:21] <MrBushido> draugon: oo, nice bookmarked and thanks!
[06:21] <punkinhell> what cp -r command in unix
[06:22] <MrBushido> copy recursive?
[06:22] <draugon> punkinhell: copies a directory and all files/directories inside it
[06:22] <punkinhell> thnx a lot
[06:22] <punkinhell> how will i use type command
[06:23] <scott951> can anyone help me restore my boot ?
[06:23] <draugon> punkinhell cp -r sourceDirectory destination
[06:24] <draugon> punkinhell: you need to open a terminal first. hit alt+f2 and type "gnome-terminal" then hit enter
[06:24] <jmcantrell> is there a preferred dock application?
[06:25] <punkinhell> is ANYBODY TELL HOW TO HACK PASSWORD OF GMAIL. RECENTLY SOMEBODY HACK MY PASSWORD
[06:25] <rww> punkinhell: hacking gmail is offtopic for this channel and freenode in general, so no
[06:26] <punkinhell> OK  NP
[06:26] <TR4X> celthunder: this is my lsmod output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/618849/
[06:26] <scott951> I have a dual boot win7 and ubuntu 11.04 and only have windows boot option and not ubuntu tryed easyBCD 2.0 but that loads grub and don't know the commands to load gnome
[06:26] <elky> punkinhell, you might want to hit your capslock key off too :)
[06:26] <tmg> punkinhell: they hacked sony networks too, so who cares your gmail ;p
[06:26] <rfegfrg> Anyone that needs help with unity or wants to wacth videos about Ubuntu's new interface can check out http://unity.mirocommunity.org/
[06:26] <scott951> anyone?
[06:26] <rfegfrg> It's a miro community page which basically has videos about unity
[06:26] <rfegfrg> yes
[06:27] <rfegfrg> plz check it out
[06:27] <elky> rfegfrg, remember how I said this was spam in the other channel?
[06:27] <rfegfrg> took me long time to make
[06:27] <Flannel> rfegfrg: Please stop spamming miro links here, thanks.
[06:27] <Blue1> no thanks - not on 11.04
[06:27] <rww> oh. webchat. I /still/ didn't get used to that.
[06:28] <tsok> After installing GRUB2 after a windows 7 install I get the error that the file "\NST\AutoNeoGrub0.mbr" is not found or corrupt, any help? Any help at all would be appreciated
[06:29] <scott951> Im looking for same thing
[06:29] <scott951> rww, can you please help me
[06:29] <rww> scott951: If I could, I would have when you asked the first time :)
[06:30] <scott951> thanks
[06:31] <punkinhell> what is the requirement to install ubuntu linx os
[06:31] <tmg> isnt it best and fastest to just run installation CD, boot os from it, mount hd, chroot, install grub again
[06:31] <rww> !requirements | punkinhell
[06:31] <tmg> than askin questions on irc?
[06:32] <rinkukokiri> so, how do I go about switching my bootscreen back from kubuntu to ubuntu
[06:32] <TR4X> celthunder: I'm happy to try replacing kernel modules if it leads to a resolution of this problem, I'm not a new user and this is not my primary install.
[06:33] <[an]droidman> basically punkinhell, if your running windows xp you can run ubuntu
[06:33] <punkinhell> is there impact on xp as machine is 4 yr  old .
[06:34] <punkinhell> will it suuport  my system
[06:34] <[an]droidman> punkinhell: im sure it will support it
[06:34] <[an]droidman> i run it on a 7-year old laptop
[06:35] <rinkukokiri> so. someone told me to make a startup to do "compiz --replace" to fix this other problem and it didn't   How can I make it so I don't have to open compiz-fusion-icon and reload my window manager every login?  I have a problem with my second monitor windows not having titlebars
[06:35] <kaiyin> I bought a MS comfort curve 2000 keyboard, and the left ctrl, esc, and  4 keys are not working at all.
[06:35] <scott951> @help
[06:36] <IdleOne> rinkukokiri: sudo nano /etc/X11/default-display-manager   you will see /usr/bin/kdm change it to /usr/bin/gdm save the file and reboot
[06:36] <tmg> reboot?
[06:36] <IdleOne> tmg: or log out and back in
[06:36] <rinkukokiri> IdleOne, it already says gdm
[06:37] <tmg> IdleOne: much better, dont teach them to ack like with Windows, please ;]
[06:37] <sylvyor_> quit
[06:38] <IdleOne> rinkukokiri: you got me now. that should just work. tmg right sometimes I forget :)
[06:39] <IdleOne> upd
[06:40] <rinkukokiri> problem one: upon login, I must reload the window manager, as on my second monitor windows don't have a titlebar.. this has been happening since installing ubuntu 11.04.   Problem Two: I installed kubuntu-desktop because I wanted to try out the KDE interface without downloading the iso and making a usb disk, now my bootloader is kubuntu bootloader and I want it switched back to Ubuntu..
[06:40] <boss8055> we can download youtube videos by watching it and copy from the /tmp folder right?
[06:42] <boss8055> anybody help me pls
[06:43] <tsok> boss8055: i can help
[06:43] <NiMH> I just use Firefox extension for downloading youtube video.
[06:43] <rinkukokiri> boss8055, why not just use firefox with an add on?
[06:43] <tsok> boss8055: when watching a youtube video, replace the "youtube.com" with "keep-tube.com"
[06:43] <ejv> is it ok to interrupt mdadm when it's doing a check ?
[06:43] <ejv> i really need to power down this box im working on...
[06:43] <tsok> boss8055: keep-tube is an online service that allows high-quality downloading of youtube videos, no watermark etc.
[06:43] <tsok> or like rinkukokiri or NiMH said, use a firefox add-on
[06:44] <boss8055> so that option to copy from /tmpfolder is not available now?
[06:45] <tsok> boss8055: I'm not sure, I just now got ubuntu so I don't know about any /tmp folder.
[06:45] <rinkukokiri> boss8055, it is available, but you really don't get to choose what format to download in, which resolution to download, whether or not you want it converted into mp3, plus you have to actually find the file (it's not as simple as looking for an flv or mp4)
[06:45] <scott951> does ubuntu has an option to redo your mbr ??
[06:45] <tsok> (by /tmp folder I mean the method used to extract videos from it)
[06:46] <rinkukokiri> the folder isn't /tmp btw, it's usually your firefox profile cache dir
[06:46] <rinkukokiri> about:cache
[06:46] <thr01> it is /tmp go there loock for a FADASDASRF242424 file something random like that
[06:46] <rinkukokiri> personally I would just install an add on to firefox though.. it's a lot easier, and you have more options
[06:46] <thr01> then rename it to .flv
[06:46] <NiMH> Check out Easy Youtube Video Downloader
[06:46] <thr01> it is the easiest way
[06:47] <thr01> then u can bookmark /tmp on desktop
[06:47] <rinkukokiri> actually.. no it's not /tmp
[06:47] <thr01> use arista to convert it to desktop after and ur sorterd
[06:47] <NiMH> it's an firefox extension
[06:47] <thr01> actually it is /tm
[06:47] <rinkukokiri> /home/mikah/.mozilla/firefox/c54olf27.default/Cache
[06:47] <rinkukokiri> no it sisn't
[06:48] <thr01> it is definantely /tmp ive been saving youtube like this for years
[06:48] <rinkukokiri> thr01, if you're using firefox it's your firefox disk cache
[06:48] <rinkukokiri> i've been stealing from youtube for longer than you
[06:48] <rinkukokiri> trust me
[06:48] <rinkukokiri> thr01, you are correct that it is named some random set of digits/letters though
[06:49] <thr01> ...  /tmp has worked 4 at least 5 years
[06:49] <thr01> if they have moved it must be in very latest firefox
[06:49] <rinkukokiri> no...
[06:49] <rinkukokiri> it's been like that since at least firefox 3.1
[06:49] <rinkukokiri> thr01, why not just look up a howto and prove me wrong?>
[06:50] <rinkukokiri> http://www.walkernews.net/2007/11/19/how-to-save-flash-video-from-firefox-cache-folder/  hrm
[06:50] <thr01> i can just look at my computer here, as i watch youtube in vlc by opening the /tmp file
[06:50] <rinkukokiri> hrm   seems you can
[06:50] <rinkukokiri> *t
[06:50] <FloodBot1> rinkukokiri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:50] <amith036> @stefano-pallazo
[06:51] <rinkukokiri> thr01,  http://hackingtom.blogspot.com/2010/09/how-to-retrieve-youtube-videos-from.html
[06:51] <rinkukokiri> Open Mozilla Firefox and in the address bar type as "about:cache" (without quotes)
[06:52] <rinkukokiri> thr01, interesting, which folder in /tmp is the video located in then?
[06:53] <rinkukokiri> because that's all I have in my /tmp   folders... and I'm watching a youtube right now... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFu2DfPDGeU
[06:54] <draugon> rinkukokiri: you want to change your bootscreen? you need to install gnome-splashscreen-manager
[06:55] <draugon> rinkukokiri: hmmm... actually, maybe not... wasn't what I was thinking it was
[06:56] <TR4X> ok installing restricted modules.  laters.
[06:58] <boss8055> anyway guys the new flashplayer wont support videos to be saved in /tmp folder
[06:59] <boss8055> http://freshtutorial.com/ubuntu-doesnt-store-youtube-played-video-temp-folder/
[06:59] <avernos> my wlan broadcom card is set as eth3 how can i change that?
[07:01] <BingLang> command to check ram usage?
[07:02] <yagoo> !free
[07:02] <sabiancrash_cgx> Temps cannot be colder than absolute 0. (-459.67F)
[07:02] <llutz_> avernos: modify /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[07:02] <yagoo> BingLang, free!!!!
[07:02] <rinkukokiri> BingLang, the command is free
[07:02] <BingLang> thanks
[07:06] <scott951> How do you load kernel in grub?
[07:08] <avernos> llutz_ thanks, afterwards should i reboot or restart some service to put it active?
[07:08] <tsok> "wine: Install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables" <-- any help? I already installed the windows version of Mono using WINE
[07:09] <llutz_> avernos: try restarting udev + networking, but i'm not sure if this will be sufficient
[07:09] <avernos> ok thanks
[07:10] <ceza> hello word
[07:11] <avernos> llutz_ this is strange. i had a repeated entry there, so i commented the last one that was setting the pci wifi card as eth3, i rebooted and it copied again and uncommented. so now i have 3 entries for the same device
[07:12] <Bakerconspiracy> does anyone else use freenet here?
[07:13] <llutz_> avernos: remove /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules completely and reboot
[07:13] <avernos> lol
[07:13] <avernos> ok
[07:13] <madsailor_> Bakerconspiracy, try #freenet, this channel is for ubuntu support
[07:13] <Su22> "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" I'm getting this error when I compiled my first GTK+ 3.0 app...How to fix?
[07:15] <Bakerconspiracy> madsailor_ for sure. I saw there irc but just wanted to have a discussion w/ someone about it
[07:15] <Bakerconspiracy> their**
[07:16] <madsailor_> Bakerconspiracy, if you just want to discuss #ubuntu-offtopic is the place.  This channels is more business oriented ;)
[07:17] <Bakerconspiracy> ah yes. Thanks madsailor_
[07:17] <madsailor_> np
[07:17] <Ashtray777> I'm a legitimate business man
[07:17] <Bakerconspiracy> a lucky one at that haha
[07:18] <Bakerconspiracy> a lucky ashtay lol
[07:18] <Ashtray777> indeed, lucky with full file priveledges
[07:21] <arunkn> hi all
[07:21] <cypha`> can I upgrade my Ubuntu to the latest version of the server edition? It's currently the regular edition
[07:21] <appu> hello
[07:21] <appu> you can
[07:22]  * arunkn sipping a cup of coffee
[07:22] <appu> oh
[07:22] <appu> where are you
[07:22] <appu> ?
[07:22] <lonejack> hi, I would like to insert the user www-data in my group. Is it possible? I opened the user-group manager but  I don't see www-data(apache). Thank you
[07:22] <appu> living
[07:22] <arunkn> appu: You asking me?
[07:23] <appu> yes
[07:23] <arunkn> appu: Am from Chennai
[07:23] <arunkn> u?
[07:23] <appu> me from kerala
[07:23] <arunkn> gr8!
[07:23] <appu> a place called kunnamkulam
[07:23] <arunkn> hmmm
[07:28] <cypha`> appu, can I do this remotely?
[07:28] <cypha`> can I remotely upgrade my Ubuntu to the latest version of the server edition? It's currently the regular edition
[07:30] <kcaze_> Does anyone know of a program that can read PDF's and keep bookmarks?
[07:30] <floodplain> Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right ch. I've broken my lamp installation and need to completely reinstall it. i've been trying for hours but after each apt-get remove --purge and synaptic gui complere removal the reinstall  it doesn't work. any advice on how to get lamp back as if it was the first time installing it? thanks
[07:30] <kcaze_> i.e. I want to set several bookmarks in a single pdf document so I can easily flip back and forth between different spots in the pdf
[07:32] <llutz_> lonejack: sudo adduser www-data <yourgroup>
[07:33] <robin0800> floodplain, I would completly remove and then reboot and use ubuntu-tweak (unsuported) to further clean
[07:36] <floodplain> robin0800: hi, how do you mean completely remove? apt-get remove --purge apache2 mysql-server php5 phpmyadmin
[07:37] <floodplain> I'm looking at ubuntu-tweak at the minute
[07:39] <axscode> i'm just wondering, what do i have to install so that Preferences -> Apperance will appear?
[07:39] <robin0800> floodplain, yes that sort of thing and a reboot before reinstall
[07:40] <floodplain> thanks i'll give it a go robin0800
[07:41] <robin0800> kcaze_, Adobe reader ? in the partner repostries
[07:42] <kcaze_> robin0800: hmmm, okay
[07:42] <kcaze_> I'll give it a go
[07:42] <kcaze_> thanks
[07:46] <cypha`> how can I have my parents (3000 miles away) turn on my computer (which is running ubuntu) and run/type something that will allow me to have remote access to the terminal?
[07:47] <llutz_> cypha`: you want to read about wake-on-lan - if you're using a router how to enable that in your router, and about ssh
[07:48] <cypha`> llutz_ is it easy?
[07:48] <cypha`> well, wake on lan, i know
[07:48] <cypha`> but what about setting up ssh?
[07:48] <llutz_> !ssh | cypha`
[07:49] <Bakerconspiracy> !noodles
[07:49] <Bakerconspiracy> !noodles | cypha'
[07:49] <murlidhar> can anyone tell me how to put irssi app on unity launcher ?
[07:49] <NecroBuntu> waw rame
[07:49] <bignono1> on ubuntu 10.10 , if i run 11.04 cd will it auto upgrade?
[07:50] <NecroBuntu> selamat siang
[07:50] <Bakerconspiracy> still haven't upgraded to 11.04 because of unity
[07:50] <llutz_> !classic | Bakerconspiracy strange reason
[07:50] <bc81> !info noodles
[07:50] <murlidhar> Bakerconspiracy: 11.04 also has classic deskop in login screen
[07:50] <Bakerconspiracy> yea
[07:50] <Bakerconspiracy> I know I could do that
[07:50] <murlidhar> :)
[07:50] <murlidhar> can anyone tell me how to put irssi app on unity launcher ?
[07:51] <Bakerconspiracy> but how can you get unity off
[07:51] <Bakerconspiracy> the OS
[07:51] <Bakerconspiracy> lot of work
[07:51] <Bakerconspiracy> right?
[07:51] <murlidhar> Bakerconspiracy: yep but dun use it if you don't like unity . . simple.
[07:51] <murlidhar> Bakerconspiracy: it is not necessary to use it
[07:52] <Bakerconspiracy> I know
[07:52] <Bakerconspiracy> I get ya
[07:52] <lonejack> hi, I tried this cmd.: 'usermod -a G myname www-data'. It doesn't work. Does somebody know why?
[07:52] <robin0800> Bakerconspiracy, you don't have to use unity you can use classic
[07:52] <Bakerconspiracy> sorry to bring up a flame topic
[07:52] <Bakerconspiracy> robin0800 I don't want unity libs on my HD
[07:52] <llutz_> lonejack: -a -G
[07:53] <murlidhar> Bakerconspiracy: its not that ubuntu has forced you to use unity only. but i do hope they put gnome3 classic and unity in the 11.10 version
[07:53] <llutz_> lonejack: sudo adduser www-data <yourgroup>                    easier and less possibilities to shoot into your foot
[07:54] <Bakerconspiracy> murlidhar: Yea. Do you know what the determining factor was to change gnome from default?
[07:54] <Bakerconspiracy> there was some sort of falling out on music downloads and what not right
[07:54] <Bakerconspiracy> and efficiency ?
[07:54] <studentz> Hi there my webcam builin in my netbook stop working. Help me...
[07:55] <murlidhar> Bakerconspiracy: to bring uniformity in mobile devices as well as on desktop.
[07:55] <robin0800> Bakerconspiracy, ubuntu fell out with gnome over gnome shell
[07:55] <murlidhar> Bakerconspiracy: gnome shell looked much different than it is now
[07:56] <Bakerconspiracy> did gnome go backwards after an uproar
[07:56] <murlidhar> Bakerconspiracy: no they followed unity ......
[07:56] <Blue1> murlidhar: indeed
[07:56] <Blue1> gnome-3 looks a lot like unity
[07:56] <Bakerconspiracy> ah yes I better find an article and read up lol
[07:57] <madsailor_> Bakerconspiracy, http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?s=gnome+3
[07:57] <Blue1> ahh good ole
[07:57] <murlidhar> Bakerconspiracy: you can always talk about it on #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:57] <robin0800> murlidhar, I know but they did not want buttons moved and universul menu and the new indicator panel
[07:57] <murlidhar> robin0800: yes they didn't want to blindly copy unity
[07:57] <Bakerconspiracy> murlidhar sorry, I originally thought I was in that section.
[07:58] <murlidhar> :)
[07:58] <Blue1> i think ubuntu is trying to be a mac wanna be somedays
[07:58] <Blue1> okay i know -- offtopic
[07:58] <murlidhar> haha
[07:59] <murlidhar> its ok. i am not an op ;)
[07:59] <Bakerconspiracy> lol
[07:59]  * Blue1 waits for the offtopic police
[07:59] <robin0800> murlidhar, yes but these first two are in classic as well though you can remove them
[07:59] <murlidhar> hmmm
[08:00] <lonejack> llutz_, so you want to insert me in www-data group. I did already. But the question is that I develop my sw in my home and each file creation I sould set privileges for all because apache usr is www-data. And also I've problem when I create a new dir (www-data hasn't +wrx privileges). Big problem.
[08:00] <murlidhar> well we are customizable :)
[08:00] <murlidhar> i don't complain.
[08:00] <murlidhar> i do lots of customization to classic desktop as well
[08:00] <murlidhar> i prefer it MY way
[08:01] <murlidhar> we all have OUR ways
[08:01] <murlidhar> so i don't complain about anything.
[08:01] <ielezovikj> After installing GeForce 6200 drivers my firefox is blank and almost all the windows are blank no adddress bars no buttons nothing. Can someone tell me what to do?
[08:01] <murlidhar> just that gnome-shell and unity has been added to our choices :)
[08:02] <robin0800> murlidhar, could be a problem in 11.10 if there is no classic
[08:02] <murlidhar> robin0800: yes but they putting it in repositories.
[08:02] <ielezovikj> After installing GeForce 6200 drivers my firefox is blank and almost all the windows are blank no adddress bars no buttons nothing. Can someone tell me what to do?
[08:03] <Bakerconspiracy> ielezovikj can you turn off some visual effects?
[08:03] <Bakerconspiracy> try that
[08:03] <Bakerconspiracy> what version of the drivers did you install
[08:03] <Bakerconspiracy> the current right? not legacy ?
[08:04] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: yes, I installed the current Nvidia drivers
[08:04] <madsailor_> lonejack, you can read about file permissions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[08:04] <petrolman> lonejack, put www-data in your user group and set 664 for files and 775 for dirs
[08:05] <Bakerconspiracy> ok
[08:05] <llutz_> lonejack: read "man adduser" what adduser does when called with 2 parameters.
[08:05] <Bakerconspiracy> ielezovikj you don't have compiz installed or anything fancy already do you?
[08:06] <hamza> bonjour
[08:06] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: nope, and I do not see visual effects in Appearance
[08:06] <llutz_> lonejack: sudo adduser www-data <yourgroup>                adds user www-data to the group <yourgroup>
[08:06] <xidica> need assistance with these failed command: WRITE DMA EXT
[08:06] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: I just installed Ubuntu like 1 hour ago
[08:06] <xidica> i've read all the bug reports, it's notthe hardware in this case
[08:06] <hamza> I have a problem with the update in ubuntu sabily 11.04
[08:06] <hamza> this is the message
[08:06] <Bakerconspiracy> ielezovikj ok. You restarted after the install? (i know, but had to ask)
[08:06] <hamza> Impossible d'initialiser les données sur les paquets
[08:06] <hamza> Un problème irrémédiable est survenu pendant l'initialisation des informations du paquet.
[08:06] <hamza> Veuillez signaler ce bogue du paquet « update-manager » en y joignant le message d'erreur suivant :
[08:06] <hamza> 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_partner_i18n_Translation-en, E:Les listes de paquets ou le fichier « status » ne peuvent être analysés ou lus.'
[08:06] <FloodBot1> hamza: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:07] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: I did restart it twice, but still the problem persists.
[08:07] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: gedit is blank, firefox is blank, kate is blank . It is crazy.
[08:07] <hamza> FloodBot1> excuse me
[08:07] <Bakerconspiracy> sometimes the additional drivers thing will work properly if you unintall then install again
[08:07] <Bakerconspiracy> but you cant do that can you
[08:07] <lonejack> llutz_, petrolman, Thank you
[08:08] <Bakerconspiracy> like that parts of the GUI that should be loaded into memory
[08:08] <Bakerconspiracy> aren't working
[08:08] <Blue1> Bakerconspiracy: hey that's sounds like a windows solution  ;-)
[08:08] <Bakerconspiracy> it does
[08:08] <Bakerconspiracy> but trust me
[08:08] <Bakerconspiracy> I have  2 x GT 9800
[08:08] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: tell me what to do
[08:08] <Blue1> Bakerconspiracy: but what you say is true
[08:08] <appu> hey
[08:09] <Bakerconspiracy> ielezovikj go to additional drivers
[08:09] <Bakerconspiracy> deselect the package and reinstall
[08:09] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: is that the only way?
[08:09] <Bakerconspiracy> no
[08:09] <Bakerconspiracy> we could do it through the envidia installer
[08:09] <Bakerconspiracy> terminal
[08:09] <Bakerconspiracy> much harder though
[08:09] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: ok, stay with me
[08:10] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: Now I am removing the driver
[08:11] <holx> hello, I have a question
[08:11] <celthunder> holx, the answer is blue
[08:11] <Bakerconspiracy> ielezovikj what version of the 6200 do you have?
[08:11] <holx> what is the kernel path on ubuntu
[08:12] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: I uninstalled it. Now what?
[08:12] <holx> I need to compile madwifi
[08:12] <Bakerconspiracy> install it again
[08:12] <Bakerconspiracy> holx don't you just need modprobe for that?
[08:12] <Bakerconspiracy> if that doens't work we gotta look up your drivers from the nvidia site ielezovikj
[08:12] <celthunder> holx, /usr/source
[08:12] <holx> Bakerconspiracy: how do you mean, Im fairly new
[08:12] <celthunder> holx, er /usr/src
[08:12] <Bakerconspiracy> I'll help you with that though
[08:13] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: I have GeForce 6200 and I already had tried reinstalling it and it again had the same problem
[08:13] <Bakerconspiracy> ok
[08:13] <holx> celthunder: thanks
[08:13] <Bakerconspiracy> well we are going to get the drivers right from the nvidia site then
[08:13] <xidica> Jun  5 02:02:44 xidbox kernel: [  291.727163] ata1: SError: { Handshk }
[08:13] <xidica> Jun  5 02:02:44 xidbox kernel: [  291.727170] ata1.00: failed command: WRITE DMA EXT
[08:13] <xidica> can anyone help me with this ? i've read every bug report, applied the kernel disable NCQ option
[08:13] <xidica> still having trouble
[08:15] <Bakerconspiracy> ielezovikj are you on 32 bit or 64 bit
[08:15] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: 64 bit
[08:15] <studentz> Hi there my webcam builyin stop working. Help me :)
[08:15] <Bakerconspiracy> ielezovikj you don't have a geforce 6200 Le
[08:16] <Bakerconspiracy> or anything like that
[08:16] <Bakerconspiracy> right?
[08:16] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: no
[08:16] <Bakerconspiracy> ok
[08:16] <Bakerconspiracy> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/270.41.19/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-270.41.19.run
[08:16] <celthunder> ielezovikj did you make sure that the nvidia modules were the ones actually loaded
[08:16] <Bakerconspiracy> shoot
[08:17] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: Ok, I am downloading the file
[08:17] <Bakerconspiracy> wrong ver
[08:17] <Bakerconspiracy> hold on
[08:17] <ielezovikj> Bakerconspiracy: no
[08:17] <Bakerconspiracy> gave you the 32 bit
[08:17] <Bakerconspiracy> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/270.41.19/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-270.41.19.run
[08:18] <rcmind> Hello everyone I planning to switch to Libre Office and wanted to know if any one else have it install.
[08:18] <celthunder> rcmind, it's basically openoffice
[08:19] <celthunder> so if you've ever used that you're not looking at much difference
[08:19] <ejv> sanity check my friends! for a large array (formerly five, adding a sixth) of low power green drives, is it customary for a reshape to take 2 days?
[08:20] <rcmind> celthumber Yeah but I think it has new features OpenOffice don't.
[08:21] <rcmind> I searching google now
[08:21] <adminewb> My 802.11g PCI wireless adapter on linux i386 requires ndiswrapper to use a Win32 driver; am I without recourse for using the same hardware on linux amd64?
[08:23] <celthunder> adminewb, it would stand to reason
[08:23] <applesouce> Hello
[08:24] <applesouce> Is there somebody that might have the time to help me :)
[08:24] <celthunder> adminewb, if theres not a 32 bit kernel module that supports your hardware without ndiswrapper it's doubtful theres a 64 bit one
[08:24] <celthunder> applesouce, 20$ donation required time has run out
[08:24] <Bakerconspiracy> lol celthunder
[08:24] <xidica> please....
[08:24] <appu> hello
[08:24] <xidica> Jun  5 02:02:44 xidbox kernel: [  291.727163] ata1: SError: { Handshk }
[08:24] <xidica> someone help me with this
[08:25] <adminewb> celthunder, and you're saying then that no one's done a 64 bit ndiswrapper to support windows 64 bit drivers
[08:25] <xidica> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/591532
[08:25] <celthunder> adminewb, no i didn't say that
[08:25] <xidica> it's related to this, but my hard drive is not failling at all...SATA controller causing these errors
[08:25] <xidica> i've tried disabling native command queueing, still have problems
[08:25] <celthunder> Bakerconspiracy lol least someone got it
[08:26] <RB_> I want to learn about Terminal .
[08:26] <celthunder> xidica what is your sata port mode set to
[08:26] <celthunder> RB_, ok what about it?
[08:26] <celthunder> RB_, and which terminal
[08:27] <xidica> celthunder, it may be set to auto as far as speed between 3GB and 6GB, but it's set AHCI, and it also happens in IDE PATA emulation
[08:27] <RB_> how to use termina in Ubuntu
[08:27] <xidica> the motherboard I am using has the marvell sata controller I believe, the ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3
[08:27] <adminewb> celthunder, so how would I go about discovering one or confirming it doesn't exist?
[08:27] <appu> hey
[08:28] <celthunder> xidica, was just making sure it was in AHCI..
[08:28] <celthunder> adminewb, whats the chipset in  your wireless card
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[08:28] <xidica> celthunder, yes, I also have this patch applied to kernel boot options : GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="libata.force=noncq"
[08:28] <llutz_> !cli | RB_
[08:29] <xidica> celthunder, it no longer seems to show the errors as it was or freezes hard now, but it does go through excessive periods of SATA/IO lag
[08:29] <xidica> celthunder, i was wondering if rolling back to an older kernel or something may fix it
[08:29] <celthunder> xidica, did it work with an older kernel?
[08:29] <xidica> celthunder, without disabling NCQ
[08:29] <xidica> celthunder, one person on bug report said it did, but I don't have any old kernels
[08:30] <celthunder> xidica, kernel.org
[08:30] <xidica> celthunder, this is a fairly fresh 11.04 natty install, I was thinking about rolling back to an older one
[08:30] <xidica> celthunder, I'm normally a CentOS and originally NetBSD/Gentoo guy, so i'm familiar with rolling my own, just not necessarily how "ubuntu does it"
[08:30] <xidica> celthunder, should I roll my own manual? or use some ubuntu tool to assist in integrating it with grub-upgrade and the sort
[08:30] <celthunder> xidica, lol i use arch i don't even use ubuntu i just help out here so i can feel like i  contribute
[08:31] <adminewb> celthunder it's a Marvell chip, let me see
[08:31] <xidica> celthunder, I hear ya...i've heard great things about arch, may try it...currently jut have my bitcoin mining rig running this ubuntu install so i'm trying to square away this stupid SATA issue
[08:32] <celthunder> xidica, could be worse...building gcc takes a lot longer than building a kernel :)
[08:32] <applesouce> Hi
[08:32] <celthunder> applesouce, welcome back
[08:32] <applesouce> Somebody there that could help me with my problem?
[08:32] <xidica> celthunder, ha...i remember the old gentoo stage 1 days
[08:32] <adminewb> celthunder, Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas]
[08:33] <applesouce> I'm not so good in selfsolving^^
[08:33] <celthunder> xidica, i recently just did an lfs install again because i was bored lol
[08:33] <applesouce> I'm a "Fresh" user
[08:33] <celthunder> applesouce, tell use the problem not that you have one
[08:33] <applesouce> yesterday I switched from Windows 7 to Ubuntu 11.04
[08:33] <xidica> celthunder, oh lord bootstrap it
[08:33] <applesouce> ok so like I said I was a Windows user
[08:33] <llutz_> applesouce: and you problem is?
[08:33] <llutz_> your*
[08:33] <xidica> celthunder, you remember the days when linux was actually complicatedish? like 2.0.33 kernel days?
[08:33] <new2net> In Natty how do I write an alias (they go away when I restart).  Like...  alias wth='ps -uxa | more'
[08:34] <applesouce> and I like to play games^^
[08:34] <applesouce> computer games
[08:34] <xidica> new2net, add it to your .bashrc
[08:34] <llutz_> new2net: add it to ~/.bashrc
[08:34] <applesouce> so I wanted to make a virtuell windows
[08:34] <celthunder> xidica, it was never complicated...just required actual thought on the user before doing something stupid
[08:34] <applesouce> with FauMachine
[08:34] <celthunder> xidica, but yes...i do :)
[08:34] <applesouce> to install Windows
[08:34] <xidica> celthunder, right, but the days of grabbing slackware 3.0 on a dialup windows modem
[08:34] <applesouce> and play some games^^
[08:34] <llutz_> !enter | applesouce
[08:34] <celthunder> xidica, winmodems were aweful
[08:35] <xidica> celthunder, and then having to wait 2 weeks for the distro to download,only to realize that you had to have some janky ndis style crap to even get winmodem to work in linux back then
[08:35] <celthunder> applesouce, virtualbox or vmware workstation/player
[08:35] <xidica> celthunder, those were the golden days...when getting sound working on linux install was a feat in and of it self, OSS
[08:35] <applesouce> Ok, and I have a big and small partition, the big one is /usr/local, and I don't even know what's stored on that, so I wanted to place my machine there, but I can't, please help :)
[08:35] <adminewb> celthunder, Marvell wireless chip is 88w8335 [Libertas]
[08:35] <celthunder> xidica, :)  and you felt proud about your computer having that 5GB hdd
[08:36] <xidica> celthunder, and a 233mhz with mmx, you damn right
[08:36] <llutz_> gaming in virtualbox should be restricted to  minesweeper due to the poor 3d-graphics support
[08:36] <new2net> xidica, llutz_: thank you, someone told me this once before but I forget. hehe
[08:36] <YankDownUnder> applesouce, The /usr/local is a system directory
[08:36] <applesouce> So it was dumb to make it 800GB?
[08:36] <celthunder> applesouce, why would you make /usr/local a big partition? much less on it's own...maybe /usr but why /usr/local
[08:36] <xidica> applesouce, yes
[08:36] <YankDownUnder> applesouce, If you're going to install a virtual machine - of any sort - you'd want to have it live in your /home/username directory
[08:37] <xidica> applesouce, i recommend for a new installer, just do 4GB /tmp, 60GB /, and rest /home if you feel like it
[08:37] <celthunder> applesouce, if you're going to do that do it BSD style and make your home dir /usr/local/home
[08:37] <applesouce> can't I switch it with gparted?
[08:37] <celthunder> applesouce, easiest fix is hat i just said...make your home dir in /usr/local
[08:37] <RB_>  thank you
[08:38] <applesouce> how
[08:39] <celthunder> applesouce, cp -r /home /usr/local/home edit your /etc/passwd to reflect the change and change your $HOME variable to /usr/local/home/<username>
[08:39] <celthunder> applesouce, could just use mv instead of cp.
[08:39] <celthunder> applesouce, but you're probably logged in atm ...so using cp wouldn't break the hell out of your current X session
[08:40] <applesouce> Ok, ehm I use Ubuntu sense yesteday evening, please I don't understand anything....
[08:40] <new2net> xidica, llutz_: Do I need to restart my tty session to see my new .bashrc aliases?
[08:40] <celthunder> applesouce, ok start by opening a terminal
[08:40] <applesouce> ok
[08:40] <xidica> new2net, source ~/.bashrc
[08:40] <celthunder> new2net, no source it
[08:40] <xidica> new2net, need not restart
[08:40] <celthunder> xidica, beat me to it
[08:41] <xidica> <3
[08:41] <celthunder> :)
[08:41] <celthunder> xidica, pm?
[08:41] <celthunder> and how's the kernel build going
[08:41] <celthunder> applesouce, got one open?
[08:41] <applesouce> yes
[08:41] <applesouce> that I meant with ok xD
[08:41] <applesouce> sorry^^
[08:41] <celthunder> applesouce, ok type this in or copy paste it sudo su -
[08:42] <new2net> xidica, celthunder: it worked :) thank you both very much
[08:42] <applesouce> ok now I'm on root
[08:42] <celthunder> applesouce, once you've done that you should be at a # sign yep
[08:42] <applesouce> root@applesouce:~#
[08:42] <thomas__> what channel can help with device file editing/device hacks?
[08:42] <celthunder> applesouce, now mkdir /usr/local/home
[08:42] <applesouce> ok
[08:42] <applesouce> made it
[08:43] <celthunder> applesouce, ok now vi /etc/fstab (replace vi with your editor of choice)
[08:43] <petrolman> celthunder, give him nano
[08:43] <applesouce> what editor xD
[08:43] <xidica> celthunder, check your PM
[08:44] <celthunder> xidica, kk
[08:44] <petrolman> vi is not for beginners
[08:44] <applesouce> ok
[08:44] <applesouce> ehm I've just used vi because I don't know any others
[08:44] <notNicolas> I am baffled, and even insulted.
[08:44] <celthunder> notNicolas, ?
[08:44] <applesouce> but it looks complicated^
[08:45] <notNicolas> Why do multiple monitors not work?
[08:45] <notNicolas> Why is the maximum resolution wrong?
[08:45] <celthunder> notNicolas, which wm/graphics card/etc
[08:45] <aricz> vim is pr0n
[08:45] <celthunder> notNicolas, man xrandr
[08:45] <notNicolas> Where is the taskbar?
[08:45] <notNicolas> Why can't I see what the windows are with alt+tab
[08:46] <notNicolas> Why did I need to download third party apps to use wireless?
[08:46] <celthunder> applesouce, ok you have some options under the /home partition that the /usr/local one does not yes?
[08:47] <celthunder> notNicolas, what wm because you have a shitty wireless card and because you didn't bind alt tab to anything
[08:47] <tomreyn> And most of all, what is the purpose of life, the universe and anything?
[08:47] <celthunder> tomreyn 42
[08:47] <notNicolas> the heck is a wm?
[08:47] <celthunder> notNicolas, if you want a taskbar run trayer or something
[08:48] <thomas__> looking for a printer hack channel???
[08:48] <applesouce> well, I don't know, it looks so god damn complicated, I just see a lot of numbers and file systems and nothing to put text in
[08:48] <celthunder> applesouce, uhm vi is a text editor...anyway...go down to the usr/local partition (itll be the only one with /usr/local in it)
[08:50] <thomas__> can some please help me out here?!
[08:50] <applesouce> ok ehm, I just scrolled and then a lot of B's and A's came and I cant scroll back.... And this all should be in my terminal right ....
[08:50] <tomreyn> thomas__: what's your real issue?
[08:50] <aricz> Apple, use some other editor instead, vi/vim is complicated
[08:50] <bazhang> !alis | thomas__
[08:50] <thomas__> there for a sec it seemed like i as invisible
[08:51] <notNicolas> In multiple screens, any screen size I set gives mt he message "user set screen size larger than max screen size" QUALITY PROGRAMMING
[08:51] <celthunder> applesouce:  press esc a few times then :q!
[08:51] <thomas__> i'm just looking for a hack channel for printer hacks
[08:51] <bazhang> thomas__, /msg alis list *printer*
[08:51] <celthunder> applesouce: then hit enter it should exit
[08:51] <applesouce> ok
[08:51] <thomas__> k thanks.
[08:51] <bazhang> thomas__, that has nothing to do with ubuntu, so please stop asking here
[08:51] <celthunder> notNicolas: xrandr...what's the output
[08:51] <petrolman> applesouce, is this your first time on linux? than I advise you to install windows 7 back as your primary desktop system and then start Linux with the vm-ware VirtualBox to become familiar with it step by step
[08:51] <applesouce> I made one for back to the roots and opened a new terminal and I'm again on root with #, could I use another editor then vi?
[08:52] <notNicolas> dunno dude the terminal won't open anymore
[08:52] <celthunder> applesouce: ok nano /etc/fstab
[08:52] <applesouce> ok
[08:52] <thomas__> bazhang, sorry i have no idea what i'm doing.
[08:53] <bazhang> thomas__, ask for help in #freenode then not here
[08:53] <applesouce> still in my terminal nothing really changed, but go on to the next step :)
[08:53] <notNicolas> my second monitor's screen size is 1920x1080, but the biggest screen size ubuntu will let me use is 1600x1200
[08:53] <celthunder> applesouce: in the /usr/local mount after defaults add ,user_xattr,noatime
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> notNicolas: which video chip?
[08:54] <notNicolas> and on top of that I don't have the option to extend the display, both my screens just show the same thing.
[08:54] <celthunder> notNicolas: ctrl alt f1
[08:54] <applesouce> its all in my terminal I can't add there because I cant even write^^
[08:54] <celthunder> ....
[08:55] <celthunder> applesouce: fine that parts not technically important
[08:55] <celthunder> applesouce: just a few minor disk improvements
[08:55] <notNicolas> ActionParsnip: ATI Radeon HD4225
[08:55] <applesouce> ok
[08:56] <applesouce> what could then solve my problem?
[08:56] <celthunder> applesouce: anyway then exit the editor and cp -r /home/<username> /usr/local/home
[08:57] <petrolman> cp -rp
[08:57] <celthunder> applesouce: then you WILL need to use an editor (idc what vi/emacs/nano/pico/vim/joe all work fine for me) to open /etc/passwd
[08:57] <Fudge> hi what other php packages do i need to install to make apache2 work with .php files instead of trying to save them.
[08:57] <applesouce> wait
[08:57] <applesouce> I should go back to root right
[08:57] <celthunder> applesouce: yeah you should be doing all this as root...
[08:57] <iceroot> Fudge: just php5
[08:57] <Fudge> thats what i thought iceroot
[08:57] <iceroot> Fudge: after that restart apache
[08:58] <applesouce> cp -r /home/<username> /usr/local/home doesn't work
[08:58] <applesouce> it says something about missing targetdata
[08:58] <celthunder> applesouce: did you literally type that?
[08:58] <iceroot> applesouce: -a
[08:59] <iceroot> applesouce: and if it is not your home, use sudo cp -a /home/username /usr/local/home/
[08:59] <bazhang> applesouce, did you type <username> instead of your name?
[08:59] <celthunder> applesouce: and as petrolman mentioned add -p (i was going to make you do a chown later but that saves a step)
[08:59] <applesouce> thats what I typed: cp -r /home/applesouce/usr/local/home
[09:00] <iceroot> applesouce: space missing
[09:00] <celthunder> applesouce: you deleted the space between applesouce and /usr
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> applesouce: why not just use ~/   instead, it will abstract itself to the user's home
[09:00] <zakwilson> gnome-volume-control has the ability to set input and output volumes over 100%, but indicator-sound only goes to 100%. Can I make indicator-sound set the volume higher?
[09:00] <celthunder> ActionParsnip: caue he's doing this as root...
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> celthunder: i see
[09:00] <celthunder> ActionParsnip: and roots home better be /root unless he moved that too
[09:01] <celthunder> applesouce: anyway did you add the p to cp or no (doesn't matter we can change ownership later jw so i know
[09:01] <applesouce> now i wrote cp -rp /home/applesouce /usr/local/home
[09:01] <applesouce> and it went to the next line without a output
[09:02] <adminewb> I've discovered a distinct disadvantage to sharing filesystem "/home" between multiple installations of linux: for instance GNOME config settings or other things in dot directories are in major contention between installation with common user id's. People know of conventional ways to deal with this?
[09:02] <celthunder> applesouce: ok perfect now open /etc/passwd in an editor (nano/pico/vi/vim/emacs/joe idc)
[09:02] <applesouce> could you recoment an editor^^
[09:02] <holx> how do I install linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic offline?
[09:03] <iceroot> holx: sudo dpkg -i debfile
[09:03] <roger21> dpkg -i ?
[09:03] <celthunder> holx: download the .deb and then dpkg -i it
[09:03] <zakwilson> applesouce: if you have to ask, use nano.
[09:03] <celthunder> applesouce: i use vim/emacs
[09:03] <holx> thank you
[09:03] <applesouce> then nano
[09:03] <c2tarun> how to open ubuntu software center from terminal?
[09:03] <iceroot> c2tarun: type it in terminal
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: gksudo software-center
[09:03] <celthunder> c2tarun: synptics?
[09:03] <llutz_> applesouce: if you will succeed and ever will have need for support here, please never forget to mention that you moved your $HOME to a very (linux) uncommon place
[09:04] <applesouce> ok
[09:04] <applesouce> so I write nano /etc/passwd
[09:04] <roger21> how do i set up my network to auto reconnect ? or never disconnect ? (i meean lose paquet but not disable the connection when it is not working)
[09:04] <notNicolas> I got multiple monitors working...
[09:04] <notNicolas> but they only work if the screens are one on top of the other
[09:04] <celthunder> applesouce: ok got it open find the line with your username and change the /home/applesouce to /usr/local/applesouce
[09:04] <notNicolas> what the hell? Who would ever use that?
[09:05] <llutz_> celthunder:  /usr/local/home/applesource
[09:05] <celthunder> notNicolas: i would...jus to irritate you
[09:05] <iceroot> notNicolas: e.g. pinball emulators
[09:05] <applesouce> nothing happened so
[09:05] <applesouce> just passed to the next line without output
[09:05] <celthunder> llutz_: er yeah lol
[09:05] <celthunder> applesouce: ? do you have nano installed?
[09:05] <applesouce> ehm
[09:06] <applesouce> i guess not
[09:06] <celthunder> applesouce: even then it hsould return SOMETHING
[09:06] <notNicolas> if in Monitor Preferences I set the second monitor to the right of my other screen
[09:06] <iceroot> applesouce: why editing directly on /etc/passwd? there is "usermod"
[09:06] <applesouce> yes I have it installed
[09:06] <celthunder> iceroot: cause i'm lazy...and it's a 1 line edit and i know where it is without looking up the options
[09:06] <iceroot> applesouce: and please dont use a root-shell
[09:06] <notNicolas> then it doesn't detect the screen
[09:07] <iceroot> celthunder: doesnt matter, NEVER edit directly in /etc/passwd
[09:07] <applesouce> Ok it's very hard for me to follow one person, but it's even more harder to follow 2 different persons with different advices
[09:07] <celthunder> iceroot: i made all my users just fine editting it
[09:07] <llutz_> celthunder: you're not a 1-day linux user
[09:07] <iceroot> celthunder: you, but dont suggest something like that in an ubuntu support channel please
[09:08] <notNicolas> Okay, if I move the position of my screen in the Monitor Preferences
[09:08] <notNicolas> then it disables the screen
[09:08] <applesouce> Ok, question here, is there a way to solve my problem in gparted?
[09:08] <celthunder> applesouce: lol one minute apparently i'm outnumbered i gotta read a man page for a sec
[09:08] <notNicolas> if I try to move the position of my screen in the Multiple Screens, it tells me that the screen has an invalid size
[09:08] <celthunder> applesouce: uhm without reinstalling no
[09:09] <applesouce> cant I just make my other partition bigger
[09:09] <notNicolas> will someone explain to me again how ubuntu passes off as anything better than a science fair project?
[09:09] <applesouce> and the usr/local smaller?
[09:09] <celthunder> applesouce, one sec
[09:09] <celthunder> and notNicolas because you're annoying
[09:09] <kerebrus> Can someone explain to me why if they are going to make empathy the default IM program why they don't keep it updated ...
[09:10] <celthunder> applesouce, in the root terminal usermod -d /usr/local/home/applesouce
[09:10] <applesouce> ok
[09:10] <applesouce> output came
[09:10] <applesouce> only options so
[09:11] <celthunder> applesouce, uhm yeah i forgot the user part
[09:11] <celthunder> lol
[09:11] <roger21> how to i set up my wired network to auto reconnect ?
[09:11] <celthunder> applesouce, add applesouce after the directory
[09:11] <shane1> hi guys
[09:12] <celthunder> applesouce, so your final command is usermod -d /usr/local/home/applesouce applesouce
[09:12] <celthunder> shane1, hi
[09:12] <applesouce> ok did that, usermod: user applesouce is not logged in at the moment
[09:12] <shane1> i am facing a problem and try to solve this but no luck
[09:13] <shane1> when i try to install in software like sound alsa i face this problem
[09:13] <shane1> "E: oss4-dkms: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10"
[09:13] <celthunder> applesouce, apparently you shouldn't run that while you're using the user anyway...
[09:13] <applesouce> makes sense
[09:14] <shane1> i cannot install anything
[09:14] <celthunder> applesouce, or at least not running X as the user...
[09:14] <shane1> please help me
[09:14] <bernie> is there a specific channel to discuss unity?
[09:14] <applesouce> ok
[09:14] <celthunder> bernie, #unity? (guessing)
[09:14] <applesouce> wait, I have a different idea
[09:14] <bernie> celthunder: it's quite deserted...
[09:14] <celthunder> applesouce, so did i but 3 people bitched about it
[09:14] <applesouce> sense my OS is just one day old, I have no problem reinstalling it^^
[09:15] <bernie> celthunder: ah, found: #unity3d
[09:15] <applesouce> but there is a last question, I have 1TB of space, how should I use it with what datasystems and stuff
[09:15] <llutz_> applesouce: do a clean reinstall, mount your big partition as /home and you will be fine without trouble
[09:15] <celthunder> applesouce, then go for it...if you want advice on partitioning /boot 100Mb / about 7.5/10GB swap about 256MB and the rest in /home
[09:16] <holx> grr still cannot compile madwifi
[09:16] <celthunder> applesouce, if you want to keep your current install all you have left is setting your users home dir to /usr/local/home/<username>
[09:16] <shane1> here is full detail
[09:16] <shane1> http://pastebin.com/xTaQU2EV
[09:16] <applesouce> no it's fine^^ but thanks
[09:16] <shane1> please ubuntu developer help me
[09:16] <celthunder> applesouce, and in general reinstalling isn't forced in linux...this isn't window s :)
[09:16] <shane1> i will be thankful to you
[09:17] <applesouce> so
[09:17] <holx> has anyone compiled madwifi on 11.04?
[09:18] <holx> I've googled my ass off
[09:18] <holx> still cant get it to compile
[09:18] <holx> says it cannot detect kernel version
[09:18] <applesouce>  /boot = 100mb, / = 10GB, /swap = 500mb, /home = rest
[09:18] <celthunder> shane1: what's in your make.log
[09:19] <celthunder> applesouce: how much ram do you have?
[09:19] <applesouce> 6GB
[09:19] <holx> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/where-is-kernelpath-in-ubuntu-11-04-a-878235/ this error exactly, but the resolution posted won't work
[09:19] <celthunder> then don't make a swap
[09:19] <applesouce> ok^^
[09:19] <celthunder> or if you do 128/256MB is mor than enough
[09:19] <celthunder> you can always make a swap file later if needed or enable compcache etc
[09:19] <applesouce> then what exactly does /swap do, virtuell ram?
[09:19] <celthunder> yea
[09:20] <applesouce> ok that isn't needed yet xD
[09:20] <celthunder> pretty much and like i just said you  can make a swapfile later/enable compcache (compresses ram)
[09:20] <shane1> where i can view logo
[09:20] <shane1> ?
[09:20] <applesouce> and /boot stores the bootfiles, does that make the boot faster?
[09:21] <shane1> celthunder: where i can view make.log
[09:21] <shane1> ?
[09:21] <celthunder> shane1: /var/lib/dkms/oss4/4.2-build2002/build/ for more information.
[09:21] <celthunder> applesouce: ? no it just keeps your grub/kernel sepearete
[09:21] <llutz_> applesouce: no and extra /boot makes no sense if you don't use several linux-installations or zfs or raid
[09:22] <celthunder> llutz_: multiple kernels
[09:22] <shane1> DKMS make.log for oss4-4.2-build2002 for kernel 2.6.32-32-generic (x86_64)
[09:22] <shane1> Sun Jun  5 13:02:36 PKT 2011
[09:22] <llutz_> applesouce: do you want to use hibernation? in that case you'll need a swap-partition at least with size ~ RAM
[09:22] <llutz_> celthunder: no need for extra boot only for multiple kernels
[09:22] <applesouce>  whats hibernation
[09:22] <shane1> celthunder:DKMS make.log for oss4-4.2-build2002 for kernel 2.6.32-32-generic (x86_64)
[09:22] <celthunder> llutz_: also shared booting between stuff
[09:23] <llutz_> applesouce: suspend-to-disk
[09:23] <shane1> celthunder::DKMS make.log for oss4-4.2-build2002 for kernel 2.6.32-32-generic (x86_64)
[09:23] <celthunder> llutz_: never know when you want your /boot seperate ...it's come in handy more thn once for me
[09:23] <applesouce> I should really invest more time in learning english^^
[09:23] <eric_> bonjour
[09:23] <shane1> celthunder:: "DKMS make.log for oss4-4.2-build2002 for kernel 2.6.32-32-generic (x86_64)"
[09:23] <eric_> j'essaie desperement de me connecter en mode rescue sur une dedibox
[09:23] <llutz_> celthunder: i haven't had an extra boot since 16 yrs except for reasons given above. no problems ever
[09:24] <eric_> j'ai fait copier coller du mot de passe
[09:24] <eric_> tjs access denied
[09:25] <Guest37860> g
[09:27] <roger21> how can i set up ubuntu not to ifdown when network is down ?
[09:27] <celthunder> roger21: what's it going ot do if it's up if theres no networK?
[09:28] <roger21> celthunder, because it does not reconnect when network is up again
[09:28] <celthunder> roger21: so that's your real problem...not that it goes down when it's supposed to
[09:28] <roger21> yep, exactly
[09:29] <roger21> and as i can't fix the real problem, i'm looking for an alternate solution
[09:29] <celthunder> llutz_: applesouce if you don't want a /boot you could use the 4th one as /usr most of the stuff there is rather small so hoose filesystem type accordingly or /tmp...can secure ita bit that way
[09:30] <llutz_> roger21: using /etc/network/interfaces to configure your network? add "allow hot-plug"
[09:30] <Guest37860> fuck
[09:30] <holx> so has anyone compiled madwifi on ubuntu 11.04? I am in desperate need of help
[09:30] <jiltdil> hi when i open a video in vlc today it is showing all video like in bluish colour how did it happen how to get rid of this?
[09:30] <halvor> hello
[09:30] <llutz_> celthunder: having extra /usr makes no sense today, since you cannot mount in ro anymore (imo)
[09:31] <llutz_> roger21: allow-hotplug ethX            it s
[09:31] <roger21> llutz_, ok i look for that
[09:31] <celthunder> llutz_: eh not being in huge fs blocks
[09:32] <livcd> can anyone send me a guide how do i create extended partition ?
[09:32] <celthunder> llutz_: most of the stuff in /usr is tiny
[09:33] <llutz_> celthunder: still makes no sense for average desktop-user
[09:33] <llutz_> a 1-day user in special
[09:34] <celthunder> llutz_: eh i hate having everything in / and having stuff seperate never hurt if he doesn't want a /boot then /tmp is the next easiest to benefit from...but size is hard to guess ...so /usr is the easiest to do and benefit from
[09:35] <celthunder> llutz_: since i have no idea what he's going to throw in his /tmp anyway....besides that it's harder to guess filesize of stuff in /tmp
[09:35] <jiltdil> nvidia current version is saying that the driver is activated but not currently in use
[09:35] <jiltdil> how to make it in use
[09:35] <celthunder> and benefit from not having wierd fs blocks
[09:35] <celthunder> jiltdil: restart X?
[09:36] <celthunder> jiltdil: modprobe nvidia or whatever module it is and modprobe -r whatever you're using now
[09:37] <llutz_> celthunder: the benefits are marginal and for a newbie-user it just makes it unnecessary complex. there are other things to lear 1st
modprobe nvidia saying that module not found
[09:38] <celthunder> jiltdil: idk how something can be active and not in use lol but uh that's likely not he module name just saying
[09:38] <llutz_> learn*
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[09:38] <celthunder> llutz_: yes marginal benefits are still fun... even if you don't use them or notice them..
[09:38] <celthunder> llutz_: a bunch of marginal efforts put together make a noticeable one
[09:39] <celthunder> and it's 5am..i'm bored and wanted to see someone do something other than use /
[09:39] <llutz_> celthunder: just let's drop it and say: we evaluate that stuff different
[09:40] <celthunder> llutz_: lol works for me :) like i just said...it's late...i'm bored...and he was here
[09:40] <adminewb> I've encountered a disadvantage to sharing filesystem "/home" between different linux distros: for instance GNOME config settings or other things in dot-directories are in contention between installations with common user id's. Someone know of conventional ways to deal with this?
[09:40] <jiltdil> celthunder:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/screenshotyqe.png/
[09:40] <jiltdil> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/screenshotyqe.png/;
[09:40] <celthunder> adminewb: use the same UID/GID?
[09:41] <adminewb> well yes, UID/GID are in common
[09:41] <celthunder> adminewb:make sure you have the same version of gnome and etc installed?
[09:41] <adminewb> celthunder, that's harder to keep control of
[09:42] <llutz_> adminewb: but you have to, because options/config may differ
[09:42] <tx0105> does anybody know if there is any sort of cloud based office integration in Ubuntu
[09:42] <celthunder> adminewb: gnome.org or whatever...i'm sure they have a git repo pull it into your home dir and install the same repo in both ... done
[09:42] <adminewb> celthunder, that also doesn't get at the core of the matter, which is that different distros all using same release of GNOME may still have different ideas how they want default settings to be
[09:42] <tx0105> something like a drop box into Google Docs
[09:43] <celthunder> adminewb: make them read only after you set the settings how you want
[09:43] <jiltdil> see it is saying this driver is activated but not in use http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/screenshotyqe.png/
[09:43] <adminewb> celthunder, that would probably help, once I figure out how to restore things to how they were xD
[09:43] <celthunder> adminewb: and the .files are there FOR YOUR SETTINGS if somethings overwriting them it's a trash program anyway don't use it
[09:44] <adminewb> celthunder, wish it were so simple
[09:45] <jiltdil> i got the solution :)
[09:45] <adminewb> themes afaik also are not stored in /home
[09:46] <adminewb> distros may have a different collection of themes available
[09:47] <holx> okay let me simplyfy my question: how do I get madwifi drivers on my laptop
[09:48]  * jiltdil waiting for OneiricOcelot as natty is not quite successfull
[09:49] <holx> nobody knows?
[09:49] <holx> great
[09:49] <holx> on arch it used to be pacman -Sy madwifi and done
[09:50] <holx> b ut it wont even compile on ubuntu
[09:50] <holx> user friendly my ass
[09:51] <gskellig> madwifi is for atheros right?
[09:51] <holx> yes
[09:51] <llutz_> holx: http://goo.gl/cdwBB
[09:51] <holx> been messing for a day with it
[09:51] <gskellig> ah I miss atheros
[09:51] <gskellig> stupid centrino, no me gusta
[09:53] <holx> gskellig: thanks, now need to take a long trip to my parents place for that sweet ethernet cable
[09:53] <gskellig> lol
[09:53] <holx> although seems like its gonna fail as well
[09:53] <holx> see the compilation fails to get kernelpath
[09:54] <holx> ./kernelversion.c:13:30: fatal error: linux/utsrelease.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated.
[09:54] <holx> and I've googled and googled and tried everything I found
[09:54] <holx> and it wont compile
[09:56] <llutz_> holx: kernel-headers are installed?
[09:59] <holx> llutz_: yes
[10:01] <FranKz> Good morning.
[10:01] <cypha> what's useful about ubuntu server?
[10:01] <cypha> over regular ubuntu
[10:02] <elky> cypha, you don't have to uninstall a heap of stuff.
[10:02] <FranKz> Yesterday one of my friends recommended me a program which made usb bootable. My programs can't detect cds, so I can't burn the image, can I use the usb bootable program on the iso on a folder, then copy those files to cd?
[10:02] <cypha> aah, cool
[10:02] <FranKz> Would that work?
[10:02] <cypha> thanks elky
[10:03] <elky> cypha, also, its installer is a bit different and allows you to add some useful things at install time.
[10:04] <cypha> k, server edition it is then
[10:04] <FranKz> Can somebody help me? I need to burn an .iso and it doesn't detect the cds
[10:04] <cypha> seems it would be useful regardless then
[10:05] <elky> FranKz, what do you mean it doesn't detect them? Do you mean when you put the blank one in, or when you boot?
[10:05] <jenvy> cypha, it's also command line on base install, you have to install whatever desktop you want if you want a gui
[10:05] <cypha> elky, why is 32bit the recommended version for standard ubuntu, and 64bit for server edition?
[10:05] <FranKz> elky, I've used many cds and dvds because I need to move an .iso file, somehow they're not detected in any program :(
[10:05] <cypha> jenvy, ohh, that's really good to know
[10:06] <FranKz> What can I do, elky?
[10:08] <jenvy> and cypha, i believe the recommended version is 32 bit because  "regular users" will most likely run into less issues due to a wider support for the 32 bit platform, where as a lot of things are still barely/not compatible with 64 bit. i could be wrong though
[10:08] <FranKz> Can a CD or DVD with files inside be deleted?
[10:08] <FranKz> I mean, the files inside.
[10:08] <elky> jenvy, i've had no issues with 64bit in the past few years
[10:08] <klown> doesnt the 64bit include all 32bit libs?  (could be wrong)
[10:08] <jenvy> neither have i :-p
[10:09] <cypha> i'm running it on vbox, so I hope 64bit doesn't use up too much memory
[10:09] <pfifo> jenvy, its more because 32 runs on 64, and some users dont know how many bits they have
[10:09] <cypha> that's my main concern
[10:09] <jenvy> it won't, it'll only use up as much memory as you give the vm.
[10:09] <FranKz> If I copy an .iso file into a DVD Folder without burn it, would it work?
[10:09] <cypha> jenvy, I meant 32 has less of a memory requirement than 64
[10:10] <FranKz> or would it do nothing?
[10:10] <elky> FranKz, only special "rewritable" cds let you delete and stuff.
[10:10] <jenvy> cypha, if you have a modern computer, 64 bit is pretty safe for everything...(from my experience anyways)
[10:11] <elky> FranKz, I can't tell you why your programs cannot see the drive. Possibly the drive is mechanically broken?
[10:11] <jenvy> you only start worrying when you run a ton of vms at the same time
[10:11] <cypha> i'm on a laptop, and was concerned because i'm running it on vbox to use as a server
[10:11] <FranKz> And how can I copy an .iso file into a CD / DVD? I can't burn them because the programs don't detect them :( but folders r still appearing
[10:11] <FranKz> how do I repair / download tha tdrive, elky?
[10:11] <Fudge> any known problems getting proftpd to work in natty
[10:12] <pfifo> elky, ive heard that issue come up many times over the past few weeks, its likely a bug or misconfiguration
[10:12] <klown> k, I kind of have an issues, and I'm looking for some solutions.  I want to move over from win7 to ubuntu, but there is two reasons why I can't.  I use a program once a week that required .net 4, which wine will not support, and I like the "watch it now" netflix movies.  I'm considering a VM for win7 for the two programs, but would it be a pain everytime I need windows, to run those two, or is there any other options?
[10:13] <pfifo> klown, qemu might work a bit better
[10:13] <jenvy> klown,  i'd test out watching a movie through a vm in linux first, it might be really laggy
[10:13] <FranKz> Now Xfburn is saying "Unit is not accessible (it may be in usage)" and I'm not even using the CD ._. !
[10:13] <pfifo> klown, just dual boot, like everyone else that needs windows :)
[10:13] <Fudge> agreed
[10:14] <FranKz> I have Win 7 CD, sadly the network is not accessible there, it really sucks checking the network, I wonder why it works on Windows XP, on Xubuntu, and not on Win 7, were there even good changesd?
[10:14] <klown> pfifo, I've never had good luck dual booting.  Everytime I do, my linux gets destroyed, and I don't know how.
[10:14] <klown> not right away either, normally takes a few weeks.
[10:14] <FranKz> I've searched for lots of things to do to repair win 7 network, but all of them didn't work
[10:15] <pfifo> klown, well thats hardly dual bootings fault, find the root of the problem
[10:15] <Leonw> Hi,
[10:15] <elky> FranKz, we can't really help with win7, but I suspect it means the drivers are missing. you'll need to search the internet for the model number of the drive with the words "drivers win7"
[10:16] <Leonw> any one knows if it's possible to configure apt to run a pre and a post script before and after every run?
[10:16] <FranKz> elky, the first time I installed win 7 network was working well, after reboot it wasn't, then I reinstalled and it stopped working
[10:17] <elky> FranKz, is this wireless internet? if so, try plugging a cable into it.
[10:17] <FranKz> All I wish I could do is burn winxp.iso on CD and install it with Xubuntu, sadly programs aren't detecting the CDs T_T
[10:17] <FranKz> I use cable for internet
[10:17] <elky> FranKz, which programs?
[10:17] <FranKz> Xfburn, Brasero, k3p
[10:17] <FranKz> k3b*
[10:18] <FranKz> After few secs it says the "UDF Volume" was mounted automatically and a folder empty appears, anyway, Xfburn is still saying it's in usage, or multisession is not supported
[10:18] <llutz_> FranKz: growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=/path/to/file.iso
[10:19] <llutz_> ^^ with empty media
[10:19] <FranKz> It's empty :/
[10:20] <FranKz> Ifrankz@FrankZ:~$ growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=/path/to/file.iso
[10:20] <FranKz> :-( unable to open64("/path/to/file.iso",O_RDONLY): No such file or directory
[10:20] <Bartzy> hi
[10:20] <Bartzy> flush-0:16 - this process is taking 100% CPU of one of my cores, it never stops that. What is that process ?
[10:20] <llutz_> FranKz: replace it
[10:20] <FranKz> What do I do with it, llutz?
[10:20] <Bartzy> It happens on more than one server, all of them are NFS clients if it has anything to do with it.
[10:20] <FranKz> Sorry for the noob question llutz_ , what do I have to type ? xd
[10:21] <FranKz> .iso's lo?
[10:21] <FranKz> loc*
[10:21] <FranKz> folder*
[10:21] <llutz_> FranKz: where is your iso located?
[10:21] <FranKz> Desktop
[10:21] <pfifo> Bartzy, use the 'top' command to track running processes
[10:21] <Bartzy> pfifo: I do, that's where I found it. But what is it ? Why is it taking so much CPU ?
[10:21] <llutz_> FranKz: cd ~/Desktop ; growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=file.iso             replace file.iso with correct iso-name
[10:22] <pfifo> Bartzy, what is it?
[10:22] <Bartzy> pfifo: the name of the process is "flush-0:16" . It takes exactly 100% CPU of 1 core .
[10:22] <FranKz> kz@FrankZ:~$ cd ~/Escritorio ; growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=WinXP.iso
[10:22] <FranKz> Executing 'builtin_dd if=WinXP.iso of=/dev/sr0 obs=32k seek=0'
[10:22] <FranKz> /dev/sr0: "Current Write Speed" is 6.8x1352KBps.
[10:22] <FranKz> :-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/INVALID ADDRESS FOR WRITE]: Invalid argument
[10:22] <FranKz> :-( write failed: Invalid argument
[10:22] <FloodBot1> FranKz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <FranKz> woops srry
[10:23] <pfifo> Bartzy, ohh flush, i see it now... That is responsible for writing data to a disk once the file descriptor is closed, yes it does have todo with NFS at times
[10:23] <Bartzy> pfifo: Why it takes 100% CPU ? :\
[10:24] <pfifo> Bartzy, it should be ulimited and niced to only take up what you can spare
[10:24] <FranKz> Hmm
[10:24] <FranKz> llutz_ last line was: WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/INVALID ADDRESS FOR WRITE]: Invalid argument :-( write failed: Invalid argument
[10:25] <llutz_> FranKz: and you've inserted an empty writable media?
[10:25] <Bartzy> pfifo: Why ? Why does it need so much resources ? What am I doing wrong ?
[10:25] <FranKz> I've never used it, I'll try with more cds then, llutz_
[10:26] <vagvaf> i get this error while trying to install gnome3-session in 11.04 (i have added the gnome3 ppa): http://pastebin.com/ZvDHu7x6
[10:26] <vagvaf> any help ?
[10:26] <llutz_> !pm | FranKz i don't accept PMs
[10:27] <pfifo> Bartzy, you could try some combinations of mount options to see if you can solve it, maybe noatime,sync  check out man mount for more options that could be of use
[10:27] <FranKz> llutz_ does it have to be a DVD? CDs don't work?
[10:28] <llutz_> FranKz: cds will work too, if iso fits on it
[10:28] <FranKz> :-[ READ DISC INFORMATION failed with SK=2h/LOGICAL UNIT IS IN PROCESS OF BECOMING READY]: Resource temporarily unavailable
[10:28] <Bartzy> pfifo: But what should I look for ?
[10:28] <FranKz> What can I do, llutz_ ?
[10:29] <pfifo> Bartzy, anything todo with buffering
[10:29] <pfifo> vagvaf, i used 'apt-get install gnome3-desktop'
[10:30] <FranKz> It hasnt' send any error yet, llutz_
[10:30] <FranKz> Maybe this time it'll work
[10:30] <josephjithin> @pfifo does it work?
[10:30] <FranKz> CDs is rotating now, so I think it'll work :D
[10:31] <pfifo> josephjithin, it works, i had issues, but I can fix ubuntu pretty easilly
[10:31] <FranKz> [ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/LOGICAL BLOCK ADDRESS OUT OF RANGE]: No space left on device
[10:31] <arku> if smb have intel graphics, please send me output of command "update-alternatives --list gl_conf", it's need me for configure discrete graphic
[10:31] <FranKz> CD is empty, why does it display that error, llutz_?
[10:32] <llutz_> FranKz: no idea sorry.
[10:32] <FranKz> Is there any way for put the .iso on a USB Pendrive and install win xp with it?
[10:33] <endstille> unetbootin
[10:33] <llutz_> FranKz: that you'd better ask in #windows
[10:33] <HowToLearn> How can one encrypt the root directory without having to rely on the installer's options? (i.e. setting the whole thing up manually and then, once set, telling the installer to install there)
[10:33] <FranKz> If you copy the files on USB to a CD, would that be the same as burning a .iso on cd?
[10:34] <endstille> FranKz: unetbootin
[10:34] <pfifo> HowToLearn, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_Encryption_with_LUKS
[10:34]  * pfifo feels 1337 posting an archwiki link
[10:34] <josephjithin> frankz: no.
[10:35] <FranKz> kk I'll try
[10:35] <llutz_> FranKz: 1st "to put stuff on cd" you'll have to burn it and 2nd) the resulting xp-cd has to be bootable, so no.
[10:35] <endstille> FranKz: or this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[10:35] <jules> Hi all, trying to view pages on the main worksheet in Gnumeric to no avail. Any help is greatly appreciated :)
[10:35] <gentoo_drummer> hello everyone.. not familiar with grub 2, can someone tell me how to load ubuntu using grub through the menu.lst?
[10:35] <skiwithpete> hi
[10:36] <llutz_> gentoo_drummer: theres no menu.lst with grub2, its /boot7grub/grub.cfg
[10:36] <llutz_> gentoo_drummer: theres no menu.lst with grub2, its /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:36] <llutz_> gentoo_drummer: running "sudo update-grub" should find any other linux-installation and add it to grub.cfg
[10:36] <Bartzy> pfifo: I have async on /etc/exports, and acdirmin=0,acdirmax=0 on the client (mount options). That can cause that ? :\
[10:36] <pfifo> gentoo_drummer, it should be as simple as running 'update-grub' and letting it auto probe
[10:37] <gentoo_drummer> pfifo: i dont want to do tht.. i am using grub on gentoo and using menu.lst
[10:37] <gentoo_drummer> just need the ubuntu entry
[10:37] <llutz_> gentoo_drummer: let ubuntu write grub2 into partition and chainload from gentoo then
[10:37] <gentoo_drummer> wtf
[10:38] <HowToLearn> pfifo: that link provides instructions on how to configure initcpio, correct. But you cannot set up ubuntu like that, because initcpio doesn't work the same as in Arch. Moreover, Arch's installation GUI allows you to select the destination folders manually, while ubuntu doesn't seem to allow you to do so (i.e. I don't know how to tell ubuntu's installer to use /dev/mapper/whatever as a target instead of /dev/sdaX )
[10:38] <skiwithpete> I'm having problems with Bluetooth, and I'd like to erase the configuration files - where are they and how do I delete them?
[10:39] <pfifo> Bartzy, Im not sure what those options do, you can always experiment and see what happens
[10:39] <HowToLearn> pfifo: in short, the problem is that you cannot extrapolate Arch's setup to ubuntu's
[10:39] <pfifo> gentoo_drummer, edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:39] <gentoo_drummer> i probably just need to add the initrd and vmlinuz
[10:39] <pfifo> HowToLearn, can you debootstrap?
[10:39] <gentoo_drummer> thats on the /boot ubuntu partition
[10:39] <llutz_> gentoo_drummer: just use the links /vmlinuz and /initrd.img
[10:39] <thevishy> how do I install cream desktop env
[10:40] <HowToLearn> pfifo: I don't know how to use debootstrap
[10:40] <vagvaf> pfifo: it cannot even find the package u mention (not even the gnome-desktop3)
[10:42] <pfifo> HowToLearn, thats a good place to start, try followint the customizedlivecdfromscratch guide to learn to build a system from nothing, mkinitramfs will use any info in /dev/mapper and /etc/crypttab to setup you initramfs correctly... all the partitioning and background information for dm-crypt is explained on the archwiki page.
[10:43] <llutz_> gentoo_drummer: 5 lines "title ubuntu"   "root /dev/sdXY"  "kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sdXY"  "initrd /initrd.img"   "boot"          just replace sdXY to your actual partition
[10:43] <HowToLearn> pfifo: thank you. I'll start with the guide you tell me and see if I understand it. :)
[10:43] <pfifo> vagvaf, they must have changed it I installed the day natty was released
[10:45] <skiwithpete> can someone help me with Bluetooth problems?
[10:47] <holx> nobody seems to be able to solve the madwifi compiling issue
[10:47] <arku> if smb have intel graphics, please send me output of command "update-alternatives --list gl_conf", it's need me for configure discrete graphic
[10:47] <pfifo> !ask | skiwithpete
[10:48] <llutz_> arku: /usr/lib/mesa/ld.so.conf
[10:48] <arku> llutz, thx
[10:48] <skiwithpete> pfifo - thanks for the advice.
[10:49] <skiwithpete> How do I clear configuration files for Bluetooth on 10.04
[10:49] <skiwithpete> ?
[10:49] <paolo_> salve a tutti
[10:49] <appu> herllo
[10:50] <clakes> ciao... paolo!  =)
[10:50] <paolo_> a chi posso chiedere per installare una tp-link
[10:50] <llutz_> !it
[10:50] <appu> hello
[10:50] <appu> hey
[10:50] <clakes> indeed... this is an english-only channel paul
[10:52] <holx> once again, I need help with my madwifi compilation, it says "./kernelversion.c:13:30: fatal error: linux/utsrelease.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated." I have looked everywhere and messed for a full day, and am desperate
[10:52] <gold> I installed drivers for GeForce 6200 and then firefox,gedit and kate once they are full screen they are blank?
[10:52] <llutz_> holx: have you tried the way shown in http://goo.gl/cdwBB ?
[10:52] <skiwithpete> When I boot up with my bluetooth adapter in, the computer freezes (ever since I tried to add a peripheral) I want to delete the config file, and start that process again... How?
[10:52] <holx> llutz_:  same result
[10:54] <gold> I installed drivers for GeForce 6200 and then firefox,gedit and kate once they are full screen they are blank?
[10:55] <freepenguin0> hi, i'm trying to connect my ubuntu 10.10 to a wireless network (the usb wifi adapter works well in other ubuntu's installations);  when i enter the wpa  key the system load but it doesn't connect to wifi
[10:56] <holx> I know, I need madwifi too, only way I got my card working on arch
[10:56] <freepenguin0> if i see the wpa saved instead of the wpa i insered i see a string like 1i1kdj2osdkd2
[10:56] <gold> come on guys I have a noob-ish problem
[10:56] <gold> I installed drivers for GeForce 6200 and then firefox,gedit and kate once they are full screen they are blank?
[10:57] <freepenguin0> where the wpa keys are saved?  (i saw in .gconf/system/networking but nothing)
[10:58] <xylonic> Anyone know why Ubuntu 11.04 randomly logs out?
[10:58] <BlouBlou> it doesn't
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> xylonic:  i would guess its X crashing/restarting
[10:59] <BlouBlou> xylonic: did you check x errors log?
[10:59] <xylonic> No, how do I?
[10:59] <xylonic> Lots of people are reporting the same problem
[10:59] <xylonic> 10.10 never caused me this problem
[10:59] <gold> I installed drivers for GeForce 6200 and then firefox,gedit and kate once they are full screen they are blank?
[11:03] <mattyh88> hey, how can I set the owner & group permissions to something else for a folder and it's contents? I've found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions but it only explains for one file/folder
[11:04] <mattyh88> i've done this: sudo chown owner:group folder
[11:04] <freepenguin0> where are the wpa keys stored??
[11:06] <paul__> best way to gracefully kill a synaptic package install/remove that has hung?
[11:06] <paul__> i guess pgrep and kill -9 ...
[11:06] <Fudge> what would 'wl' in /etc/modules be loading/
[11:06] <llutz_> mattyh88: set permissions with "chmod"
[11:07] <llutz_> Fudge: wl
[11:07] <Fudge> wireless?
[11:07] <llutz_> Fudge: wl   is the module-name
[11:07] <mattyh88> llutz_: sorry I ment, how to change file owner/group for a folder
[11:07] <srinuprasath> chmod -R 777 foldername
[11:07] <Fudge> but what is it?
[11:07] <llutz_> srinuprasath: 777 is wrong in most cases
[11:08] <llutz_> mattyh88:  sudo chown owner:group folder            to change user/group
[11:09] <gold> after installing drivers firefox kate and gedit are blank . Can someone help me?
[11:10] <llutz_> Fudge: wl is a driver for some broadcom-wifi chipsets
[11:10] <mattyh88> llutz_: okay but how to do this for the folder and it's contents? :)
[11:10] <Fudge> tks guys
[11:10] <llutz_> mattyh88:  sudo chown -R owner:group folder            to change user/group
[11:11] <llutz_> mattyh88: read "man chown"
[11:11] <NineTeen67Comet> gold: kate and gedit are only text editors. Are you trying to open something (.txt etc?)
[11:11] <gold> NineTeen67Comet: no . I just start them and they are blank no buttons nothing. It also happens with firefox. I tried reinstalling the driver. Rebooting a couple of times but it doesnt work
[11:12] <fr00g> If I have a dual core CPU, CPU1 and CPU2 are each of the two cores, but what's CPU0?
[11:12] <NineTeen67Comet> Driver's shouldn't effect the application. Do you mean the window boarders are gone?
[11:12] <freepenguin0> where are the wpa keys stored?
[11:12] <mattyh88> llutz_: ahh okay :) the -R thingie, that's what i was lookin' for :p
[11:12] <gold> NineTeen67Comet: The borders are there but I see a blank page. No adress bar, no buttons just the borders.
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> does software centre use apt-get or dpkg to do it's dirty work?
[11:14] <NineTeen67Comet> gold: huh .. I don't know what would cause that .. usually driver's don't interact with applications exactly like that .. maybe GTK issues maybe?
[11:14] <gold> NineTeen67Comet: I have no idea. I just installed Ubuntu like 4 hours ago and I can't get my firefox working with my drivers. Btw what is a GTK?
[11:14] <gribouille> hi
[11:15] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: iirc softwarecenter is just another frontend to apt, which calls dpkg
[11:15] <NineTeen67Comet> gold: what driver where you installing? GTK is the toolkit that most applications in Gnome/Unity are built. It also handles most of your theme stuff .. buttons, menus etc ..
[11:15] <skiwithpete> I need help with Blueman bluettoh configuration
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: cool. cheers :) gonna make an alias to apt-fast, see if its groovier :)
[11:15] <gold> NineTeen67Comet: Geforce 6200 graphics driver
[11:16] <skiwithpete> can anyone tell me where the configuration files for Blueman (BlueZ) are?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> skiwithpete: possibly ~/.bluez or ~/.config  someplace
[11:16] <gribouille> I have a problem with X : yesterday, the screen resolution was 1280x1024, and today, it is 1024x768. Of couse, I didn't change the configuration. Does someone know what to do ?
[11:17] <NineTeen67Comet> gold: aha .. I just got done fighting with my GeForce GTX560Ti with SLI and multiple monitors .. Didn't loose buttons; lost all graphics .. lol .
[11:17] <NineTeen67Comet> gold: did you install the driver via additional drivers or the software center?
[11:17] <gold> NineTeen67Comet: via additional drivers
[11:17] <skiwithpete> ActionParsnip, nope neither
[11:18] <skiwithpete> ActionParsnip, if I recall correctly you've helped me in the past.
[11:18] <skiwithpete> Cheers for being around
[11:18] <NineTeen67Comet> gold: you may try the nvidia room also .. they might not be able to help; since Ubuntu handles Nvidia drivers a little different than the rest of the Linux word ..
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> skiwithpete: i help many
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> :)
[11:19] <gold> NineTeen67Comet: ok, thanks a lot for the advice and for your time. TAke care
[11:19] <NineTeen67Comet> gold: if you check around you can find additional drivers and it may show another way to install ...
[11:19] <gribouille> I have a problem with X : yesterday, the screen resolution was 1280x1024, and today, it is 1024x768. Of couse, I didn't change the configuration. Does someone know what to do ?
[11:19] <thegoodcushion> Will Ubuntu work well on this?  http://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers/acer/aspire-one-10-inch-netbook-sku-68203/
[11:20] <phox_> Does Ubuntu One automaticly sync at startup or do I need to start every time I boot up?
[11:20] <skiwithpete> ActionParsnip, I found it in .gconf/apps
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  most netbooks can do ubuntu well.
[11:21] <llutz_> thegoodcushion: it should, at least it does perfectly on my aao 531h
[11:21] <thegoodcushion> okey dokey
[11:22] <llutz_> thegoodcushion: but 3-cell battery ~ very limited runtime
[11:22] <phox_> Also: how do I set the default saving format in libreoffice?
[11:22] <thegoodcushion> hmmm
[11:22] <Stockholm_Angel> !tor
[11:22] <skiwithpete> ActionParsnip, nope that actually failed - though I renamed the directory, the configuration setting appeared before Bluez crashed
[11:23] <gribouille> I have a problem with X : yesterday, the screen resolution was 1280x1024, and today, it is 1024x768. Of couse, I didn't change the configuration. Does someone know what to do ?
[11:23] <thegoodcushion> llutz_: still be a couple of hours though right?
[11:23] <NineTeen67Comet> phox_: just go into the Tools>Options menu and select .. um .. lemme look
[11:24] <llutz_> thegoodcushion: i get ~4.5hrs with 6cell
[11:24] <NineTeen67Comet> phox_: tools>options>load & save>General .. then select file type and how you wanna save it default style ..
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> skiwithpete: I don't use bluetooth myself so not sure on the config folder really
[11:25] <thegoodcushion> llutz_: that's not important to me
[11:25] <thegoodcushion> I'm coding in C on gedit
[11:25] <thegoodcushion> so I just need to know if the screen is any good, and the keyboard's alright for coding
[11:25] <thegoodcushion> that' sit
[11:25] <phox_> thx ninteen67comet
[11:25] <gold> damn
[11:25] <llutz_> thegoodcushion: no 10" netbook is good for coding/writing/typing. too small, too limited screen-reso
[11:26] <knoppies> if I am setting up an old machine (2.4Ghz Celeron) with ubuntu server, and I want to use some sort of VM or VPS that is rather lightweight as a 'sandbox' to try out a few things, nothing long term. Any suggestions?
[11:26] <llutz_> thegoodcushion: get a used lenovo x60 or similar 12" notebook
[11:26] <thegoodcushion> llutz_: I actually think that the low-res screen is better.  The higher it is, the smaller the writing
[11:26] <NineTeen67Comet> thegoodcushion: If you are going to code on a netbook look for the 11.6 version . much better resolution .. still too small really for that; but it'll do in a crunch .. (I use this 13" HP and it does "okay").
[11:26] <azert> hi there
[11:27] <azert> is it the correct of sed ?
[11:27] <azert> sed -i 's/old.doc/new.doc' file
[11:27] <llutz_> sed -i 's/old.doc/new.doc/' file
[11:28] <azert> i can't see the difference between your line and mine ?
[11:28] <azert> what missing ?
[11:28] <llutz_> azert: look twice
[11:28] <llutz_>  /
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: 2.6Ghz is as much as all my systems have combined :)
[11:29] <azert> correct thanks a lot llutz
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server
[11:30] <llutz_> thegoodcushion: writing might be bigger but you can't really work with multiple windows. using screen on a console, no gui, you'll be fine
[11:30] <jiltdil> hi i have nvidia driver recommeded installed but it is showing that the driver is activated but not in use any solution to this.
[11:30] <thegoodcushion> llutz_: what I really use is Terminal and gedit, that's it
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a    Thanks
[11:31] <thegoodcushion> llutz_: I could even work entirely in text mode
[11:31] <skiwithpete> while I'm here, is anyone else having problems with 10.04 and webcams in skype?
[11:31] <gribouille> I have a problem with X : yesterday, the screen resolution was 1280x1024, and today, it is 1024x768. Of couse, I didn't change the configuration. Does someone know what to do ?
[11:31] <llutz_> thegoodcushion: best solution to use no gui at all
[11:31] <knoppies> thanks ActionParsnip
[11:31] <thegoodcushion> I quite like the source code colouring of gedit
[11:32] <llutz_> thegoodcushion: other editors also have nice syntax hilighting ;)
[11:32] <thegoodcushion> nano does too
[11:32] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip:http://pastebin.com/2iCzDQVm please see this thanks
[11:32] <llutz_> vim
[11:34] <skiwithpete> a while ago I tried this command to get my webcam to work:LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
[11:35] <skiwithpete> but it didn't do anything, any idea how I can undo that command?
[11:35] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip:also see this http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/220/screenshotlp.png/
[11:35] <llutz_> skiwithpete: theres nothing to undo, its not permanent
[11:36] <llutz_> skiwithpete: you might "unset LD_PRELOAD"
[11:36] <skiwithpete> llutz, that sucks, cuz my webcam still doesn't work in Skype
[11:37] <skiwithpete> llutz_, just that, unset LD_PRELOAD or the rest of the command too?
[11:37] <llutz_> skiwithpete: "unset LD_PRELOAD" and then just run skype
[11:37] <llutz_> skiwithpete: btw skype sucks too ;)
[11:38] <skiwithpete> llutz, what's crazy is that the webcam used to work, then I did a kernel update in 10.04 and it stopped working, and I haven't got it back since
[11:39] <skiwithpete> it works in cheese!
[11:39] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip:any idea?
[11:39] <llutz_> skiwithpete: isn't it libv4l2 now?
[11:40] <skiwithpete> llutz, I don't know what that means?
[11:40] <llutz_> !info libv4l2
[11:40] <skiwithpete> still don't follow
[11:40] <llutz_> skiwithpete: its the video4linux libs
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: let me review
[11:40] <jiltdil> Any one have idea related to my problem?
[11:41] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip:ok thanks
[11:41] <llutz_> !info libv4l-0
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: tried:  sudo nvidia-xconfig     and restarted X (or the system)?
[11:41] <loveunity> how ru?
[11:41] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip:yes
[11:41] <skiwithpete> llutz, sorry bro, I'm too much of a newb to fully understand... so what does that mean?  And how can I fix it?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: have you reviewed:   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:41] <llutz_> skiwithpete: hm, name is still only v4l... no idea sorry. maybe forums have some ideas
[11:42] <loveunity> any problems with unity go to http://unity.mirocommunity.org/
[11:42] <skiwithpete> llutz, I'm not even sure what to ask - that all went straight over my head
[11:42] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip: no i didn't reviewd it yet
[11:44] <llutz_> skiwithpete: try "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype"
[11:44] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip: i actually didnot know what to see it that file
[11:45] <knoppies> !info vps | knoppies
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: its humanly readable, just have a look for errors
[11:46] <BlouBlou> !vps > knoppies
[11:46] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip:ok thanks
[11:47] <skiwithpete> llutz, it says ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libv41/v412convert.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[11:48] <llutz_> skiwithpete: v4l2 not v412
[11:48] <llutz_> skiwithpete: lowercase L
[11:49] <skiwithpete> changed to lowercase L still same prob
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> skiwithpete: sounds like you need a package then
[11:50] <llutz_> skiwithpete: ask skype.com then for support, they spread that proprietary stuff :) sry can't really help you
[11:51] <skiwithpete> which package?
[11:51] <llutz_> !info libv4l-0
[11:51] <llutz_> skiwithpete: ^^
[11:52] <skiwithpete> says I have it
[11:53] <skiwithpete> sorry
[11:53] <skiwithpete> llutz, I pasted it as you wrote it and now it loads without error... testing cam now
[11:53] <skiwithpete> OMFG it works!!!!!
[11:54] <skiwithpete> llutz, you are my hero
[11:54] <llutz_> omg i'm supporting skype :((
[11:54] <oCean> skiwithpete: control the language please
[11:54] <skiwithpete> bro, you've just supported me in New Zealand, seeing my parents in Canada...  Don't undersell yourself
[11:55] <skiwithpete> thank you so much
[11:55] <llutz_> skiwithpete: cheers from germany ;)
[11:55] <skiwithpete> cool.  How do I make it permanent?  Or should I just run the command line everytime?
[11:56] <llutz_> skiwithpete: create a short starter-script for skype, containing that line
[11:57] <nlko> hey guys, ive installed nfs-common to use the nfs client, but i get the following error running showmount "clnt_create: rpc: program not registered"
[11:57] <cypha> how do I sudo apt-get python2.7?
[11:58] <llutz_> skiwithpete: like: nano ~/bin/vskype         1. line= #!/bin/sh       2. line= LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype
[11:58] <skiwithpete> llutz, can I do that inside a shortcut?  Or should I make a script?
[11:58] <llutz_> skiwithpete: if you can edit the shortcut, try it
[11:58] <Space_Man> is there any way to make a beep or noise when you press caps-lock?
[11:59] <Space_Man> or a pop up "do you really want caps lock on" :P
[11:59] <llutz_> Space_Man: setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps               to switch it off completely ;)
[12:00] <Space_Man> llutz_: thanks
[12:01] <Space_Man> excellent, no more caps lock :))
[12:02] <llutz_> Space_Man: add it to your autostart, its not permanent
[12:03] <nlko> hey guys, ive installed nfs-common to use the nfs client, but i get the following error running showmount "clnt_create: rpc: program not registered"
[12:03] <llutz_> nlko: portmap up and running?
[12:04] <meowtest> Anyone have experience with Broadcom BCM4306 wifi and AP mode?
[12:04] <nlko> yep
[12:04] <cypha> how do I get the directory list from the CL?
[12:04] <cypha> i typed "dir" but nothing happens
[12:04] <llutz_> cypha: ls
[12:04] <cypha> however, I can cd into /bin
[12:04] <cypha> ls doesn't give anything either
[12:05] <nlko> llutz_: ah
[12:05] <nmvictor> I am trying to install jdk7 to my java update-alternatives but i get the error [update-alternatives: name java is both primary and slave
[12:05] <nlko> llutz_: i was just running showmount which tries locally, i dont have nfs server here
[12:05] <nlko> showmount <ip>
[12:06] <cypha> llutz_, i'm on server edition
[12:06] <nmvictor> I am trying to install jdk7 to my java update-alternatives but i get the error [update-alternatives: name java is both primary and slave ] the command I am using lies here: http://pastebin.com/7M5UfPxB , please someone have a look and help. Thanks in advance.
[12:07] <llutz_> cypha: even on server-edition, ls should work
[12:07] <cypha> , yields no results
[12:08] <llutz_> cypha: ls -lRa
[12:08] <llutz_> has to give at least 2 entries
[12:08] <cypha> that gave stuff
[12:09] <De|ta> anyone had any issues running Transmisson on ubuntu server? Trying to download a torrent and it won't start. Other torrents work fine, and if i try that same torrent file on my laptop (ubuntu 10.10 and Transmission) it works
[12:09] <llutz_> cypha: read "man ls" for usefull options (l,a,d,t,R)
[12:10] <De|ta> I've had a quick google about it and looks like it may be a bug, but i'm not sure of other clients to try
[12:10] <cypha> why doesn't ls alone work?
[12:10] <cypha> i just want to see what files are in the root directory
[12:10] <llutz_> cypha: if there are only hidden files, ls won't show them without -a
[12:10] <cypha> aah
[12:11] <cypha> how come cd /bin works? but isn't listed even with ls -a ?
[12:11] <llutz_> cypha: odd, /bin shouldn't be empty
[12:11] <nmvictor> I am trying to install jdk7 to my java update-alternatives but i get the error [update-alternatives: name java is both primary and slave ] the command I am using lies here: http://pastebin.com/7M5UfPxB , please someone have a look and help. Thanks in advance.
[12:11] <cypha> llutz_, oh, got it.. i have to do cd .
[12:12] <cypha> i mean cd /
[12:12] <cypha> now I saw a buncha stuff
[12:12] <llutz_> cypha: ls -l /path/you/want/to/show
[12:12] <llutz_> cypha: no need to cd through the filesystem
[12:12] <gribouille> how can I generate an xorg.conf file for my system ?
[12:13] <cypha> gotcha
[12:13] <llutz_> cypha: ls -la /path/you/want/to/show           to show hiddenfiles/dirs too
[12:13] <cypha> llutz_, can server edition utilize a mouse?
[12:13] <llutz_> cypha: using gpm, sure
[12:15] <llutz_> cypha: but its of limited use on a console
[12:15] <cypha> nice, works beautifully
[12:15] <cypha> yeah, i know, just easier to jump around if necessary
[12:15] <cypha> or highlight, etc
[12:16] <llutz_> cypha: look at "mc" midnightcommander, might be usefull too
[12:16] <cypha> llutz_, what about multiple consoles?
[12:17] <cypha> like tabs or something
[12:17] <llutz_> cypha: use screen
[12:17] <llutz_> !info screen
[12:17] <cypha> so I can jump btwn working with postgres, and another server, etc
[12:17] <llutz_> !info tmux
[12:18] <jinzaki> 123
[12:18] <llutz_> cypha: screen and tmux are very handy.Most linuxer prefer screen, BSDer use tmux ;)
[12:19] <yoghrt> hello, I have a problem. My cellphone works with my laptop (ubuntu 11.04), but not with my desktop (ubuntu 10.04) [it is connected via usb cable]. It uses gphotofs, libgphoto, gphoto2, so I removed it from my desktop with apt-get --purge remove and downloaded the newest version form sourceforge. I did configure, make, make install but it still isn't working.
[12:19] <cypha> llutz_,cool, it's already installed, i'm just looking through the man page
[12:19] <llutz_> !screen
[12:19] <jinzaki> 123
[12:19] <llutz_> cypha: look at that one, might be not as confusing as the man-page
[12:20] <cypha> llutz_, you're right about that :) thanks
[12:20] <rhin0> is there a way of getting superuser elevated privileges all the time because I'm sick of typing password in bash
[12:20] <rhin0> for everything
[12:20] <rhin0> when I know what i'm doing
[12:21] <llutz_> rhin0: if you have to ask that, you don't know what you're doing, so no :)
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> anyone know some ubuntu user screenshot websites like this?: http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/screenshots/nix/
[12:21] <rhin0> llutz can't know everything
[12:21] <Zeu5> hi there,
[12:21] <OerHeks> rhin0, start with : sudo -i  ( and you are root for the whole session )
[12:21] <llutz_> rhin0: use "sudo -i" to get a root-shell if you REALLY need
[12:21] <cypha> how do you exit a man page?
[12:22] <llutz_> cypha: q
[12:22] <rhin0> ok i sort of recall
[12:22] <cypha> aah
[12:22] <llutz_> cypha: man man
[12:22] <Zeu5> i did a mount --bind for a folder so that i can run it in apache2 via /var/www
[12:22] <cypha> lol
[12:22] <cypha> llutz_, what does cd\ do?
[12:22] <cypha> it takes me to an arrow
[12:22] <llutz_> cypha: nothing
[12:22] <Zeu5> it worked yesterday and now it is not working. i am getting a NOT Found error
[12:22] <Vainamoinen> Good afternoon! :)
[12:22] <llutz_> cypha: it waits for the command being finished
[12:23] <cypha> oh, \ takes me to an arrow
[12:23] <cypha> oh
[12:23] <Zeu5> i am not sure what is causing this error.. please advise
[12:23] <cypha> what's the ubuntu equivalent of cd.. ?
[12:23] <llutz_> cypha: \   masks the following character (enter in your case) so the command isn't complete and the > shows that
[12:23] <llutz_> cypha:  cd ..
[12:23] <azert> hi
[12:23] <azert> how to check Which account id uid=1004 ?
[12:24] <cypha> oh ok
[12:24] <llutz_> armenb_: id 1004
[12:24] <cypha> makes sense, thanks :P
[12:24] <llutz_> azert: ^^ sry
[12:24] <azert> id 1004 or id uid 1004 ?
[12:25] <llutz_> azert: id 1004
[12:25] <cypha> llutz_, cd .. takes me to /home
[12:25] <azert> ok
[12:25] <azert> thanks llutz
[12:25] <cypha> how do I get to the root directory?
[12:25] <llutz_> cypha: .. = up one step
[12:25] <llutz_> cypha: cd /
[12:25] <cypha> i can't go higher than /
[12:25] <rhin0> 11.04 is excellent
[12:25] <llutz_> cypha: theres nothing higer than /
[12:25] <llutz_> higher
[12:25]  * rhin0 has an SSD :)
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> agree rhin0
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> rhin0: what ssd brand?
[12:26] <rhin0> lotuspsychje: I was worried until I found "classic view"
[12:26] <cypha> if i do cd\ and then press enter after I get that continuation arrow
[12:26] <rhin0> lotuspsychje: crucial s300 64gb
[12:26] <cypha> and then i type ls -a, I can see stuff
[12:26] <cypha> and that's apparently above /
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> rhin0:whats the price for that?
[12:26] <rhin0> < £100 can't remember exactly
[12:27] <ikonia> cypha: please read tldp.org for shell basics
[12:27] <cypha> .bash_logout .bashrc .cache .profile .sudo_as_admin_successful
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> rhin0: nice!, i have a transcend slc 8gig as boot drive, all other drives sata(storage)
[12:27] <llutz_> cypha: thats your home-dir
[12:27] <rhin0> excellent -- ok later thanks
[12:27] <luoshu> Hi
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> rhin0: u on 32 or 64 bit?
[12:28] <cypha> llutz_, yes! totally right
[12:28] <cypha> got it, thanks
[12:28] <ubuntu__> yazzie
[12:28] <ubuntu__> No i?
[12:29] <Priyanka1> Hi... where can I find the GRUB conf file..for Ubutu 11.04??
[12:29] <ikonia> Priyanka1: /etc/grub
[12:30] <AlvinPH> hello gays! aw i means guys! XD
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:31] <AlvinPH> i'm running YlmfOS on a usb stick, anyone tried this before?
[12:32] <cypha> oops, I installed gksudo, not realizing it was a graphic thing
[12:32] <cypha> how do I uninstall gksudo?
[12:32] <cypha> gksu
[12:32] <cypha> sudo apt-get remove gksu ?
[12:32] <ikonia> cypha: it's already installed by default
[12:33] <ikonia> cypha: you don't remove it
[12:33] <cypha> i'm on server edition
[12:33] <ikonia> cypha then you're just installed a desktop onto your server
[12:33] <cypha> right, so how do I uninstall it?
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> !uptime
[12:34] <ikonia> cypha: you'll need to remove it and all the associated desktop packages
[12:34] <cypha> how?
[12:34] <ikonia> cypha: is there a reason you're using the server edition ?
[12:34] <cypha> cuz i'm using it as a server
[12:34] <cypha> in a vbox
[12:34] <ikonia> cypha: the desktop edition is an excellent server
[12:34] <ikonia> cypha: it's also easier to use if you are learning linux
[12:35] <cypha> yeah, i've used it for a while. time i get familiar with terminal anyway
[12:35] <cypha> ikonia, how can I remove gksu and the associated packages?
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows good intrusion detector for ubuntu?
[12:35] <ikonia> cypha: you can still get familer with the terminal from the desktop edition, but with a desktop for a backup
[12:35] <luoshu> hi
[12:35] <Priyanka1> /etc/grub is not there in my ubuntu 11.04
[12:35] <ikonia> cypha: I suggest you read through https://help.ubuntu.com and look at the basic of how to run a server, although I would again stree use the desktop to learn on
[12:36] <ikonia> "stress"
[12:37] <VCoolio> Priyanka1: try /etc/default/grub for configuration
[12:37] <Priyanka1> okay
[12:37] <VCoolio> !grub2 | Priyanka1
[12:37] <Priyanka1> :)
[12:37] <cypha> ikonia, is there a command to uninstall gksu and the associated packages that installing it had installed?
[12:37] <cypha> llutz_, maybe you know?
[12:38] <ikonia> cypha: I suggest you read https://help.ubuntu.com on the basics of how to admin a server
[12:38] <ikonia> cypha: I again stress that using the desktop is a better learning tool
[12:40] <treebeen> can I ask something?
[12:40] <anirudhr> treebeen: Sure.
[12:40] <ikonia> treebeen: if it's an ubuntu question, sure
[12:41] <Priyanka1> ubottu:ya I got there thank you
[12:41] <Priyanka1> hehehheehhehhe
[12:41] <Priyanka1> nice one
[12:41] <Priyanka1> ;)
[12:41] <pantteri> i have clean install of newest ubuntu. What do i have to do to be able to connect it via ssh from another machine?
[12:41] <treebeen> oh, nice. this was just a test... :)
[12:41] <ikonia> pantteri: install the package openssh-server
[12:42] <pantteri> ikonia: thanks. i was not sure that should i install that one or not
[12:42] <cypha> ikonia, I'll def be reading the admin help pages. But can you tell me is there an efficient command that can remove the gksu package and its dependencies?
[12:42] <ikonia> cypha: that guide will tell you
[12:42] <pastorn> HEL!!
[12:42] <pastorn> HELP!!!
[12:42] <ikonia> pantteri: ask a question then
[12:42] <pastorn> I have a space eating monster on my system!!
[12:42] <ikonia> pantteri: sorry,
[12:42] <ikonia> pastorn: ask a question in a normal sensible way please, explain it
[12:43] <pastorn> $ watch -n 1 df -h
[12:43] <pastorn> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[12:43] <pastorn> /dev/sda1             7.7G  7.3G  2.9M 100% /
[12:43] <pastorn> and it's going down
[12:43] <FloodBot1> pastorn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:43] <cypha> ikonia, apt-get remove --purge gksu ?
[12:43] <ikonia> cypha: what does the guide say
[12:43] <pastorn> now i'm at 8.0 k
[12:43] <pastorn> i just freed up 30 MB by uninstalling something, but the monster ate it all!
[12:44] <arand> pastorn: Is there particualrly large files in /var/log ?
[12:44] <ikonia> pastorn: stop with this monster stuff please
[12:44] <ikonia> pastorn: if you do a "du -h | more" you can see the larger directories, you can then house keep them
[12:44] <livcd> What is the error sparse file not allowed and how di i fix it ?
[12:44] <cypha> ikonia, apt-get remove foo
[12:44] <ikonia> cypha: ok - so do that then
[12:44] <livcd> New installation of ubuntu
[12:45] <cypha> ikonia, I was concerned about the dependencies
[12:45] <ikonia> cypha: that won't get them
[12:45] <livcd> Can anyone help me ?
[12:45] <pastorn> arand: /var/log$ sudo du -sh * | grep M # gives me nothing :(
[12:45] <cypha> adding --purge removes the configurations too, so I guess that should help remove more
[12:45] <ikonia> cypha: it won't
[12:45] <cypha> ikonia, so how can I get them?
[12:45] <pastorn> ikonia: i don't know how else to explain it :(
[12:45] <ikonia> pastorn: who told you to do that
[12:46] <cypha> , the additional packages, that is
[12:46] <ikonia> pastorn: who told you to run that command
[12:46] <llutz_> cypha: learn to use aptitude, it's much better in removing deps etc.
[12:46] <Priyanka1> how to configure network in ubuntu through shell
[12:46] <Priyanka1> ??
[12:46] <cypha> or how can I get a list of recently installed packages, so I can remove them all manually?
[12:46] <pastorn> ikonia: arand told me to look for large files in /var/log
[12:46] <arand> pastorn: Try likewise in your home dir, /root ...
[12:46] <ikonia> pastorn: what command did I tell you to run
[12:47] <cypha> llutz_, yeah, that's what all the forums are saying, but i've already dug this whole for myself (but I know for future ref)
[12:47] <Priyanka1> :)
[12:47] <mollonado> cypha: dpkg --get-selections | less
[12:47] <Priyanka1> please help me I am new to linux ..
[12:47] <ikonia> pastorn: use the gui then
[12:47] <ikonia> Priyanka1: use the gui then
[12:48] <ikonia> pastorn: sorry, not you
[12:48] <arand> pastorn: But You might want to not grep for M if it happens to be files of GB...
[12:48] <pantteri> is the default installation of ssh server secure? or should i change something ?
[12:48] <mollonado> Priyanka1: man interfaces
[12:48] <ikonia> pastorn: cd to / then do "du -h | more" and look for large directories
[12:48] <livcd> By looking at google i can see this in a lot of bugtrackers...was this even fixed ?
[12:48] <iceroot> Priyanka1: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0; sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[12:48] <ikonia> pantteri: it's fine
[12:48] <llutz_> mollonado: that will print ALL installed packages, not only the recently installed
[12:48] <Priyanka1> ya ... /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts can we do like that
[12:48] <iceroot> Priyanka1: replace it with your ips
[12:48] <cypha> mollonado, that doesn't give any indication of chronological order
[12:48] <iceroot> Priyanka1: if you want dhcp just use "sudo dhclient eth0"
[12:49] <pastorn> ikonia: the list i get is extremely large...
[12:49] <Priyanka1> okay okay.. thanks.. iceroot
[12:49] <pantteri> ikonia: maybe i should install fail2ban or something?
[12:49] <ikonia> pastorn: yes, so go through it looking for large directories, then house keep them
[12:49] <ikonia> pantteri: why ?
[12:49] <arand> pastorn: pipe through sort -h
[12:49] <arand> pastorn: or do -sh * to only show one depth
[12:50] <pastorn> --max-depth=1 +
[12:50] <pastorn> ?
[12:51] <livcd> !sparse
[12:51] <livcd> None can help me ? :/
[12:52] <rcconf> hello
[12:52] <cypha> ok, so in conclusion, there is no way to find out what packages were 'most recently' install in order to remove them
[12:52] <rcconf> im trying to create an ad hoc network
[12:52] <_Narc_> Hello all. I tried to find a way to reorder GRUB2 entries, but what I found is not very clear. Can someone give me some clues on how to do this ? Thanks.
[12:52] <cypha> and I should reformat the drive
[12:52] <cypha> to reinstall
[12:52] <rcconf> but ad hoc is grayed out
[12:52] <llutz_> cypha: check logs /var/log/dpkg*  and /var/log/apt/*
[12:52] <rcconf> im using nm-applet
[12:53] <rcconf> hm
[12:53] <rcconf> do I need 2 computers with an wireless card?
[12:53] <Priyanka1> what is the difference between lilo and grub boot loader
[12:53] <Priyanka1> ?
[12:53] <llutz_> rcconf: how else do you want to establish an ad-hoc connection?
[12:54] <rcconf> llutz_: Im learning
[12:54] <livcd> Priyanka1: lilo sucks less
[12:54] <rcconf> llutz_: what I am trying to do is this: laptop connect to etherned.. ad hoc created... now from this computer I want to use wireless internet but I only have a pen wireless
[12:55] <rcconf> connected lol
[12:56] <llutz_> rcconf: so you have to create ad-hoc connection from pc to laptop and enable ip-forwarding/-masquerading on the laptop
[12:56] <kdg> Priy, lilo is older than grub
[12:56] <pastorn> arand: /usr is 5.3 GB
[12:56] <kdg> Priy, when you update lilo, you have to reinstlal it to the mbr
[12:56] <rcconf> llutz_: nm-applet detects ad hoc but it's grayed out
[12:57] <pastorn> /usr/lib 1.7 GB, /usr/share 1.9 GB
[12:57] <pastorn> is this normal?
[12:57] <ikonia> pastorn: depends what you have installed
[12:58] <pastorn> ikonia: some dev tools, most recently git with -doc and -*something else that was mentioned in Pro Git*
[12:58] <ikonia> pastorn: that seems large, but not impossible
[12:59] <rcconf> llutz_: "enable ip-forwarding/-masquerading"
[12:59] <rcconf> what is that
[12:59] <llutz_> rcconf: "tell the laptop to forward network-traffic from/to your other computer"
[13:00] <llutz_> !ics | rcconf read this to get an idea
[13:00] <rcconf> llutz_: connect is set to shared
[13:00] <rcconf> connection
[13:00] <llutz_> rcconf: ah, its a windows-laptop?
[13:00] <pastorn> ikonia: http://codepad.org/QUXglVS9 <-- my space wasters...
[13:01] <livcd> btrfs still requires separe /boot partition that is why im getting sparse file not allowed error ?
[13:01] <ikonia> pastorn: that doesn't add up to 1.7 gb
[13:01] <rcconf> llutz_: ubuntu to ubuntu
[13:01] <cypha> llutz_, so basically I installed A LOT of crap I can't use from the CL. what would you do at this point, reformat?
[13:01] <pastorn> ikonia: notice the "..."
[13:01] <cypha> like it's not practical for me to uninstall each and everything there
[13:01] <ikonia> pastorn: no, I don't see any .....
[13:02] <llutz_> cypha: depends on how long the new setup would take
[13:02] <pastorn> ikonia: line 2 and 33
[13:02] <livcd> thanks for no answer
[13:02] <ikonia> pastorn: why are you posting this to me then ?
[13:02] <ikonia> livcd: welcome
[13:02] <cypha> ok, screw it, i'm reformatting. i can't believe there's no straightforward way of removing it
[13:03] <basilfaulty> any idea how to fix " xserver-xorg-core (2:1.10.1-1ubuntu1) breaks fglrx (<= 2:8.801-0ubuntu2) and is installed." trying to install cat10.10 on Ubuntu natty
[13:03] <livcd> ikonia: i am enjoying this ride
[13:03] <kdg> Cso you installed all the docs?  no need to reformat over that
[13:03] <pastorn> ikonia: i thought i shouldn't burden you with a paste of all 2092 lines from listing the contents of /usr/lib
[13:03] <llutz_> cypha: there is no easy way to do it, easiest is to use aptitude from start, but even that won't help in all situations
[13:03] <ikonia> pastorn: so why give me anything
[13:03] <cypha> hmm, good to know
[13:04] <pastorn> i uninstalled plt-scheme and my monster is back... could i perhaps query the kernel for any file handles with writing access?
[13:04] <pastorn> (i freed up 120 MB)
[13:04] <ikonia> pastorn: query the kernel....come on
[13:05] <pastorn> ikonia: i dunno, maybe htop has some cool features
[13:05] <ikonia> pastorn: just look for the big files and what's taking up the space, that will tell you hopefully what's eating the space
[13:05] <ikonia> or the big size directories
[13:07] <basilfaulty> "xserver-xorg-core (2:1.10.1-1ubuntu1) breaks fglrx (<= 2:8.801-0ubuntu2) and is installed." trying to install cat10.10 on Ubuntu natty.. how to fix?
[13:08] <bazhang> livcd, not with the more recent kernel it does not.
[13:08] <pastorn> ikonia: the problem is that my only big ones are /usr/lib and /usr/share
[13:08] <livcd> bazhang: what is recent kernel for you ?
[13:08] <ikonia> pastorn: ok - so look at what's taking up the space in there, look at the time stamps onthe files to see what's being added last to take up space
[13:08] <livcd> im on 2.6.38-8
[13:09] <bazhang> livcd, that's natty, correct?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:09] <livcd> bazhang: dunno :)
[13:10] <ikonia> livcd: what version of ubuntu are you running
[13:10] <kdg> pastorn, are you hurting for space that bad?
[13:10] <bazhang> livcd, not sure if it's natty (which is yours and mine) or the next releases. the changelogs on recent kernels has the feature list if I recall correctly.
[13:10] <pastorn> kdg: this in on /
[13:10] <rcconf> bah
[13:11] <rcconf> ad hoc
[13:11] <livcd> I dont know is there something like /path/to/hell/release file ?
[13:11] <kdg> pastorn, kk
[13:11] <ikonia> livcd: you don't know what release you installed or downloaded ?
[13:11] <pastorn> kdg: /home is safe, but i think that on / it could be nice to have some free space, also, when your down on 8.0KB free it's kind of annoying
[13:11] <ikonia> livcd: lsb_release -a will show you
[13:11] <Priyanka1> how to add a new user through shell in 11.04??
[13:11] <bazhang> livcd, lsb_release -a
[13:11] <pastorn> could this be the google chrome automagic updates going bananas?
[13:11] <livcd> ikonia:it was on CD somewhere in my room !
[13:11] <ikonia> Priyanka1: why not use the gui ?
[13:12] <livcd> 11.04 natty
[13:12] <basilfaulty> Priyanka1: does useradd still work?
[13:12] <Priyanka1> no .. I ts not adding it up
[13:12] <Priyanka1> :(
[13:12] <ikonia> not adding it up ?
[13:12] <ikonia> Priyanka1: is there a reason you're not using the guis ?
[13:12] <Priyanka1> yeah in ubuntu 11.04
[13:13] <ikonia> Priyanka1: "not adding it up" makes no sense as a description of the problem
[13:13] <ikonia> Priyanka1: and is there a reason you're not using the gui
[13:13] <livcd> Matt is mad
[13:13] <livcd> brb restarting
[13:13] <basilfaulty> I think you can do it through adding lines in the /etc/passwd file..
[13:13] <Priyanka1> because I don't know specific gui thg for that
[13:13] <ikonia> basilfaulty: no you don't
[13:13] <llutz_> Priyanka1: sudo adduser <username>
[13:14] <ikonia> ignore that
[13:14] <ikonia> Priyanka1: what is the command you're using with useradd"
[13:14] <ikonia> do not use that idea
[13:14] <Priyanka1> ya ya .. iam using useradd
[13:14] <Priyanka1> cmd
[13:14] <skiwithpete> llutz, thanks again for your help, got the script sorted and changed the menu icon in LXDE... all tucked away now.
[13:14] <basilfaulty> ikonia: it's just a home dir and a line in passwd?
[13:14] <ikonia> basilfaulty: no
[13:14] <basilfaulty> ...
[13:15] <llutz_> skiwithpete: happy chatting with mom then :)
[13:15] <skiwithpete> yeah, just finished that too
[13:15] <skiwithpete> cheers,
[13:15] <skiwithpete> gnight.
[13:17] <livcd> ikonia: bazhang Ok the sparse error still remains..it boots after few sec...but it is annoying...any idea how to fix it ?
[13:19] <livcd> no idea ?
[13:20] <pastorn> ikonia: i solved it!!
[13:20] <pastorn> iotop to the rescue, it was f****g flash
[13:21] <albacker> i just dist-upgraded and now whenever i fullscreen flash videos, everything freezes
[13:21] <pastorn> arand: thanks for helping :)
[13:21] <oCean> pastorn: calm down, the obfuscated swearing is also not welcome
[13:22] <bazhang> livcd, using btrfs with /boot ? no idea sorry
[13:23] <cypha> i created a short passwd when setting up ubuntu server, but now I'd like to change the password, so I type in passwd at the CL, and try changing the pw, essentially just changing the case. However, it is telling me the password is too short
[13:23] <cypha> how do I override this?
[13:24] <bazhang> cypha, use a longer one?
[13:24] <cypha> other than that
[13:25] <llutz_> cypha: read a lot about "pam" and why you dont want to do, what you want to do
[13:25] <knoppies> cypha, Im not sure how to prevent it from rejecting your password, but an obvious (but probably not feasible ) solution would be to re-install the OS. I do recommend you use a longer password though. I am not sure why it lets you use a really short one on install.
[13:25] <cypha> the ubuntu install is just for local testing
[13:26] <knoppies> cypha, can't you just use the old password? (that not feasible either?)
[13:26] <cypha> it's on a vbox
[13:27] <cypha> i can do all those things, just wondering if there was a legitimate way to change the pw to what I wanted
[13:27] <llutz_> cypha: there is, root could set short passwords
[13:28] <cypha> llutz_, GREAT,thanks
[13:29] <llutz_> cypha: it's still a bad idea. get used to some stuff, even when running it as a vm-toy
[13:31] <cypha> llutz_, actually, u're probably right since I'm setting up a server
[13:35] <alvinPH> i'm successful :D i've installed enlightenment desktop..
[13:36] <albacker> Is there any bug with plugin-container in 11.04 ? i did a dist upgrade yestarday and now everytime i full-screen a flash video it freezes.. anyone having the same problem?
[13:36] <alvinPH> where could i find the theme files in the file system?
[13:37] <gul> anybody using arch?
[13:38] <alvinPH> where re the theme files located in the file system?
[13:38] <OerHeks> gul, this is the ubuntu support irc, join #Arch for arch support.
[13:39] <gul> OerHeks: yes but there are many people using arch and are here........i even spoke to some...so just checking if there is any....  :)
[13:39] <alvinPH> oerKeks: where could I find the theme files in the file system?
[13:40] <alvinPH> oerHeks: where could I find the theme files in the file system?
[13:41] <alvinPH> anyone knowledgable here?
[13:42] <halvor> alvinPH, themes are in your home directory usually
[13:42] <halvor> alvinPH, open your home directory and press alt+h
[13:42] <OerHeks> alvinPH,  /usr/share/themes ?
[13:42] <halvor> alvinPH, ctrl+h sorry
[13:42] <alvinPH> ok thanks to you
[13:43] <halvor> and it is in .themes
[13:43] <OerHeks> halvor, it used to be in ~/.Themes
[13:43] <halvor> OerHeks, i don't know, right now it's ~/.themes
[13:44] <OerHeks> halvor, no it is not
[13:44] <gul> after installation arch drops to grub>     anybody know what to do next?
[13:44] <oCean> gul: stop the offtopic talk
[13:44] <halvor> OerHeks, on my natty it is
[13:45] <gul> oCean: come-on if you don't know then please don't disturb........ I know its ubuntu channel but there are many arch people here
[13:46] <oCean> gul: don't do it again, you have been told to join #arch channel
[13:46] <OerHeks> !ot | gul
[13:46] <djiefo> Hi, I want to change the appearance of my bottom panel, I want something dynamic and more visual.
[13:46] <gul> oCean: i did ...... i have asked this question there but there are only 9 users........ I am searching it on net also.... lets see
[13:47] <oCean> gul: getting no answer in that channel does not make your question ontopic here
[13:47] <gul> OerHeks: very gud...........nice........... this is the only thing you can do rather than help.... lol
[13:50] <djiefo> Hi, I want a bottom bar like in this video, someone know about it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54es3G4vgs   thx :)
[13:50] <ShArkY_> Djiefo: try 'docky'
[13:51] <djiefo> ShArkY_,  cairo dock?
[13:51] <ShArkY_> ?
[13:51] <OerHeks> djiefo, looks like AWN avant window manager
[13:51] <ShArkY_> I have the same.. search for docky
[13:51] <djiefo> ShArkY_,  i just read the video description and he says it's cairo dock
[13:51] <djiefo> ShArkY_,  ok thx
[13:52] <djiefo> ShArkY_, available in synaptic?
[13:53] <ShArkY_> Djiefo: yes
[13:53] <djiefo> ShArkY_,  downloadind it from synaptic, theres a manipulation to do to start it?
[13:54] <djiefo> ShArkY_, I mean, i have to remove the current panel?
[13:54] <ShArkY_> You should be able to start it using the Applications -> accessoires
[13:54] <ShArkY_> No you don't have to
[13:55] <djiefo> ShArkY_,  ok thx for the hint mate ;)
[13:55] <ShArkY_> Np:) You can place it anywhere you like (bottom,top, left, right)
[13:55] <appu> hello
[13:56] <ShArkY_> I have removed the panel at the bottom
[13:56] <Shariff> Hi there
[13:56] <appu> where are you from
[13:56] <appu> ?
[13:56] <ShArkY_> just play with it.. you will see what I mean
[13:56] <Shariff> How can I turn into a more priviliged user, while installing and configuring software.. using sudo every single time is getting annnoying :)
[13:56] <oCean> appu: this channel is for support, join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[13:57] <xf86> you can  try a sudo bash
[13:57]  * ShArkY_ is brb
[13:57] <llutz_> Shariff: sudo -i
[13:57] <Shariff> thanks!
[13:57] <Shariff> And then I will remain a super user until I log off?
[13:57] <djiefo> ShArkY_, I have my default xubuntu bottom bar behind it
[13:57] <appu> hey
[13:57] <djiefo> ShArkY_,  no visual option to remove it
[14:00] <sabgenton> fromt the forums
[14:00] <sabgenton> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1/imagename.img
[14:00] <sabgenton> what the?
[14:00] <appu> hello
[14:00] <sabgenton> is this valid?
[14:00] <llutz_> sabgenton: no
[14:00] <llutz_> sabgenton: of=/mountpoint/image.img
[14:01] <sabgenton> llutz_: would that do something bad or nothing at all
[14:01] <sabgenton> sdb1 is not a DIR
[14:01] <appu> check my blog Www.sag-3.blogspot.com
[14:01] <llutz_> sabgenton: id guess "nothing at all"
[14:01] <oCean> appu: don't post your links here
[14:01] <sabgenton> I would have thought the output to be
[14:01] <appu> why
[14:02] <sabgenton> llutz:someone in the forums are to big for there boots
[14:02] <sabgenton> I new that was wrong just didn't think some one would be so careless
[14:03] <oCean> appu: this channel is for providing interactive (ubuntu) help only. Spam is never allowed.
[14:03] <appu> who is ocean
[14:04] <appu> ?
[14:04] <appu> oh
[14:04] <OerHeks> do you have an ubuntu support question, appu ?
[14:04] <appu> yeah
[14:04] <appu> in my c.p.u there is a new operating system
[14:04] <appu> ubuntu 10.04
[14:05] <appu> i don't know where did it come from
[14:05] <oCean> appu: don't be silly
[14:05] <appu> it is true
[14:05] <ShArkY_> Appy: Please stop it
[14:05] <oCean> appu: if you don't know how to behave, then please leave the channel
[14:05] <zxd_> has jaunty repository changed I can't download anything
[14:05] <OerHeks> !jaunty
[14:05] <appu> and i don't even know the passwprd of it
[14:06] <oCean> zxd_: that is because it is no longer supported
[14:06] <OerHeks> zxd Jaunty is not supported with updates anymore
[14:07] <cypha> is linx the preferred cl internet renderer or links2?
[14:07] <zxd_> OerHeks, Err http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages
[14:07] <zxd_>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[14:07] <oCean> zxd_: yes, as OerHeks told you it is no longer supported, you have to upgrade
[14:07] <oCean> !eol | zxd_
[14:07] <adubz> i need to try to repair some iso images of software i have
[14:08] <adubz> what is a good program in linux for repairing iso images
[14:08] <jiohdi> zxd_, you get that msg when they discover a flaw and pull the update
[14:08] <OerHeks> zxd_, upgrade to 10.04/10.10/11.04
[14:08] <oCean> jiohdi: that has nothing to do with his issue
[14:08] <jiohdi> JJ is not that old though
[14:08] <appu_> hey
[14:08] <jiohdi> is it?
[14:08] <zxd_> jiohdi, what flow?
[14:09] <jakub> hi there, everyone
[14:09] <jiohdi> flaw...like a bug in the package, just happened recently for the current distro
[14:09] <jiohdi> I guess JJ was not a lts, right?
[14:10] <jakub> one quick question: im using ubuntu (10 i gess, netbook edition), i've downloaded pokerth.installer.bin (its in Downloads cataolge), how shall i install it?
[14:10] <RevSpecies116> HH was LTS
[14:10] <little_king> hi
[14:10] <jiohdi> 11.10 will be LTS right?
[14:11] <RevSpecies116> Nope
[14:11] <oCean> jiohdi: no, 12.04
[14:11] <RevSpecies116> PP will be next LTS
[14:11] <little_king> somebody know ho i can hide files and dicoriens in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[14:12] <appu> hello
[14:12] <jakub> hi
[14:12] <appu> where are you from
[14:12] <appu> ?
[14:12] <oCean> appu: stop that now
[14:12] <little_king> who?
[14:12] <appu> you
[14:12] <little_king> germany
[14:12] <BluesKaj> jakub, in a terminal  ./path to pokerth.installer.bin ..if it's in your /home/user folder then just ./pokerth.installer.bin
[14:12] <[lan3y]> where should i ask for help with pbuiler? is there a specific channel?
[14:12] <OerHeks> little_king, put a . in front of the folder/filename, and it will be hidden
[14:13] <jakub> and how do i install installer.bin file?
[14:13] <little_king> but so you can find it with the ubuntu search
[14:13] <BluesKaj> jakub, I jus told you ...read above
[14:14] <oCean> appu_: don't start again
[14:14] <appu_> hello
[14:14] <appu_> well who are you?
[14:14] <jakub> BluesKaj ok, thanks, plz tell me how do i get via terminal to Downloads catalogue?
[14:15] <robin0800> little_king, yes you can search for hidden files
[14:15] <BluesKaj> jakub, Downloads catalogue?
[14:15] <jakub> BluesKaj yeah, place where files automatically download from webbrowser
[14:16] <BluesKaj> !repository | jakub
[14:16] <OerHeks> jakub, use ' cd Download '
[14:17] <BluesKaj> jakub, the default folder for wen downloads is the Downloads folder in /home/user , if your browser is set up to download to that folder , of course
[14:17] <little_king> can't i hide files complet?
[14:17] <jakub> BluesKaj i've founbd the fila via terminal
[14:17] <BluesKaj> web
[14:17] <little_king> so it's not only hide für natilus etc.
[14:17] <jakub> ok
[14:17] <jakub> thanks a lot
[14:17] <jakub> cheers
[14:18] <jakub> helped
[14:18] <FloodBot1> jakub: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:18] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[14:18] <llutz_> little_king: hide from other users?
[14:19] <cypha> if i use wget, where does it save the file?
[14:19] <little_king> no, for me, but so i only go to it with the direct link
[14:19] <llutz_> cypha: actual dir
[14:19] <[lan3y]> cypha, the current dir your in
[14:19] <Tetracomm> How do I connect an Ubuntu computer directly to a Windows 7 computer for file transfer?
[14:19] <cypha> = current directory?
[14:19] <cypha> k
[14:19] <little_king> in a underdir with the name of the website
[14:20] <little_king> noone a idee?
[14:20] <little_king> *an idee
[14:21] <oCean> little_king: stop the nickspam please
[14:21] <jakub> BluesKaj
[14:22] <little_king> pls, how can i hide it complete
[14:22] <BluesKaj> jakub, yes?
[14:22] <RevSpecies116> I doubt you can, little_king
[14:22] <jakub> BluesKaj i'm in the right cataloge where my file is (via terminal ofcorz)
[14:23] <Emile31> hello
[14:23] <Castbound> yo, how are you guys? I have a compaq presario cq62 running ubuntu 10.04 everything runs smoothly but the fact that sound won't autoswitch from speakers to headphones when I plug my headphones, so this results in me hearing from the headphones and the speakers, which is not good
[14:23] <jakub> BluesKaj now:       ./PokerTH-0.8.3-linux-installer.bin   ?
[14:23] <little_king> mhh
[14:24] <Emile31> I am sorry to come and ask for a question that I know there are lot of topics on forums but I don't find any working solution
[14:24] <Tetracomm> Ok, how do I transfer gbs of files from my Ubuntu computer to the Windows 7 one? My USB drive is not big enough.
[14:24] <RevSpecies116> little_king don't worry - Windows nor MacOSX can do it either
[14:24] <jakub> BluesKaj how do i install the bin file?
[14:25] <jakub> install nameofbinfile.bin?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> jakub, yes , your installation will put a folder with PokerTH-0.8.3 or something similar in your /home/user file
[14:25] <Emile31> I have got bootmgr missing when starting my computer, I have Win 7 and I just installed Ubuntu, writing grub on /dev/Sda
[14:25] <BluesKaj> jakub, hit the enter key
[14:25] <Miles---> Hello guys
[14:25] <computerx> Can I set something so that files are always mode 0660?
[14:26] <computerx> In a certain folder
[14:26] <Emile31> while Ubuntu is on dev/sda5 and win7 on dev/sda2
[14:26] <little_king> and how can i encrypt a dic
[14:26] <little_king> ?
[14:26] <afein> Tetracomm, set up an ftp server if they're on the same network
[14:26] <Tetracomm> afein: How do I do that?
[14:27] <RevSpecies116> Emile31 - a LiveCD should work
[14:27] <cypha> how do i paste into the terminal? ctrl+shift+v doesn't work? and for that matter, how do i highlight?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> jakub, ./PokerTH-0.8.3-linux-installer.bin  in the terminal , then press the enter key to install
[14:27] <little_king> how can i reset the apt-get/source list?
[14:27] <computerx> Paste from the menu
[14:27] <computerx> Highlight/Copy with your mouse and menu
[14:28] <cypha> computerx, i'm on ubuntu server
[14:28] <LjL> jakub: why would you install that as a .bin? it's in the repositories!
[14:28] <LjL> !info pokerth | jakub
[14:28] <afein> Tetracomm: follow this guide http://goo.gl/kN3cG
[14:28] <RevSpecies116> Boot to the liveCD and you can access both HDD partitions and move files between them, Emile31
[14:28] <Emile31> RevSpecies116 : thanks for anwser, but if i reinstall grub... i ll not have win7 bootloader working ?
[14:29] <computerx> cypha: I don't think such thing as a clipboard exists outside of xwindows. You'd have to echo to a temp file..
[14:29] <Castbound> I have a compaq presario cq62 running ubuntu 10.04 everything runs smoothly but the fact that sound won't autoswitch from speakers to headphones when I plug my headphones, so this results in me hearing from the headphones and the speakers, which is not good
[14:29] <cypha> computerx, oh, interesting, k
[14:29] <RevSpecies116> Just use the liveCD to move the files - install not required
[14:30] <Emile31> ok
[14:30] <bingo> hello
[14:30] <Emile31> RevSpecies116 : would you know what hdX,X (for isntance) dev/sda5 would correspond to ?
[14:30] <balachmar> Hi, I want to stop the xserver on a remote machine (I'm logged into it using ssh). Because I need to install the nvidia dev drivers (OpenCL development) However, sudo stop gdm and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop don't do the trick Xserver is still running
[14:30] <theadmin> Emile31: hd(0,4) if I recall right
[14:31] <theadmin> balachmar: doh. sudo init 3
[14:31] <Emile31> ok
[14:31] <llutz_> !runlevel | theadmin
[14:31] <theadmin> llutz_: Oh, now that's weird. Okay, sorry
[14:31] <Emile31> well thank you i ll try to solve by using livecd
[14:31] <bingo> to emile31: dev/sda5 means device 5 partitions
[14:31] <theadmin> balachmar: Don't listen to me, I'm stupid :D
[14:32] <llutz_> balachmar: sudo service gdm stop                 should do*
[14:32] <RevSpecies116> Emile31 - you will know as soon as you look :-) Windows HDD will have 'program files' and other Microsoft folders, and your Linux HDD will have etc use and other folders
[14:32] <bingo> toemile31:what u want to do?
[14:32] <balachmar> llutz_ yeah I know, but it doesn't...
[14:32] <llutz_> theadmin: stupid? naaaa, this is ubuntu ;)
[14:32] <theadmin> llutz_: I'm an Arch user, so weird runlevel concepts aren't new to me ;)
[14:32] <computerx> Is there any way to force certain file permissions in a folder, either 0660 or make group always equal user?
[14:32] <rudra1> what is the default permission number for /var folder?
[14:33] <ZykoticK9> balachmar, try "sudo service gdm3 stop"
[14:33] <Emile31> bingo : I just want to know where I will have to install grub when using livecd according to my installation
[14:33] <computerx> rudra1, probably 0755
[14:33] <llutz_> don't arch-users have a home? i wonder why they're all  hanging around here... ;)
[14:33] <theadmin> Emile31: /dev/sda, GRUB is installed in MBR.
[14:33] <rcconf> llutz_:
[14:33] <theadmin> llutz_: I do so cause I'm <censored> bored
[14:33] <balachmar> @ZykoticK9: gdm3: unrecognized service
[14:33] <bingo> emile31: it will give u options of dev/sda....
[14:34] <th0r> computerx: folders always need to be executable (0770). and to set all the permissions within the folder and subfolder use chmod -R
[14:34] <BluesKaj> !pm | jakub
[14:34] <ZykoticK9> balachmar, sorry - that's what debian currently uses.  i have no idea then
[14:34] <Tetracomm> afein: Ok, thank you. I hope it works.
[14:34] <osse> I've just installed gnuplot from source. It's located in /usr/local/bin which is before /usr/bin in $PATH. Still, when I type gnuplot at the prompt the one in /usr/bin is started. 'which gnuplot' and 'whereis gnuplot' give different locations.What's going on here??
[14:34] <rcconf> llutz_: now the ad-hoc doesn't appear grayed out because I changed from WPA to WEP (dangerous I know) .. But still can't connect to it
[14:34] <Emile31> theadmin : yes so I told ubuntu to write grub on sda, so why ubuntu does not start ?
[14:34] <computerx> Yes th0r, but I want it to be automatic. It's a folder that various programs put files in...
[14:34] <rcconf> im using 10.42.43.* Ips
[14:34] <bingo> emile31:you want to dual boot or singe boot ?
[14:34] <balachmar> theadmin: does the init 3 still provide ssh access?
[14:34] <Emile31> dual
[14:35] <llutz_> computerx: you can try a combination of sticky bit and acls, there is no "per directory umask" unfortunately
[14:35] <computerx> Putting a cron bash script for it seems a bit of a hack to me
[14:35] <Emile31> I had win7 and mint before
[14:35] <theadmin> balachmar: As I said, don't listen to me
[14:35] <ZykoticK9> balachmar, is "sudo service gdm stop" doesn't work, you could manually kill the Xorg pid
[14:35] <Emile31> so i wanted to install ubuntu over mint
[14:35] <phrearch> hello
[14:35] <theadmin> balachmar: But do try "/etc/init/gdm stop"
[14:35] <Emile31> so i told ubuntu to write grub on sda
[14:35] <ZykoticK9> balachmar, s/is/if/
[14:35] <th0r> computerx: http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=set+default+file+permissions&aq=f&aqi=g2g-v3&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=9589d0f2bb20ed2d&biw=949&bih=567
[14:35] <balachmar> theadmin: that didn't work
[14:35] <theadmin> balachmar: I mean, without the .d
[14:35] <phrearch> i would like to know the dependencies of libwebkitgtk-1.0-0_1.3.13. i dont have ubuntu installed. is there any source where i can check the dependencies that ubuntu use for this package?
[14:36] <rcconf> im trying this ad-hoc for hours
[14:36] <bingo> emile31:first give free space in mint and then by guided partition u can install it .
[14:36] <anirudhr> phrearch: apt-cache showpkd
[14:36] <Emile31> before I load mint with win7bootloader which brought me to grub then I selected Mint
[14:36] <anirudhr> phrearch: apt-cache showpkg
[14:36] <theadmin> phrearch: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[14:36] <balachmar> theadmin without the .d?
[14:36] <Emile31> ok
[14:36] <theadmin> balachmar: Well, as in /etc/init, not /etc/init.d
[14:36] <anirudhr> phrearch: Oh wait, you don't have Ubuntu.
[14:36] <balachmar> theadmin aah I see
[14:36] <phrearch> anirudhr: yea :)
[14:36] <jakub> BluesKaj bash says: Acces denied, shal i do   sudo ./PokerTh ?
[14:36] <computerx> Thanks llutz_ and th0r, I'll read up on both
[14:36] <Tetracomm> afein: vsftpd is now installed and started. How do I access my files from the Windows 7 computer which is connected to the same router.
[14:37] <balachmar> theadmin: command not found... :)
[14:37] <RevSpecies116> phreach - launchpad should have that information :-)
[14:37] <Emile31> well thank you all, I try to do with live cd and i will come back if i don t find a way to solve that
[14:37] <anirudhr> phrearch: Why not just Google it up?
[14:37] <theadmin> balachmar: Well too bad, I'm all out of ideas except maybe "killall X"?
[14:37] <Emile31> thank you again, bye!
[14:37] <bingo> emile31:best of luck dude.....
[14:37] <RevSpecies116> Good luck Emile31
[14:37] <BluesKaj> jakub, yes
[14:38] <balachmar> theadmin: what about the init 3? Does that still give me ssh access?
[14:38] <phrearch> anirudhr: was looking already, but havent found it yet
[14:38] <An_Ony_Moose> Does the main GPG key for the ubuntu repositories change across versions?
[14:38] <anirudhr> phrearch: http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-11.04/ubuntu-main-i386/libwebkitgtk-1.0-0_1.3.13-0ubuntu2_i386.deb.html
[14:38] <theadmin> balachmar: As llutz_ mentioned, all runlevels are equal, thus X would still be running if you switch to rl3
[14:38] <ikonia> phrearch: what OS are you using
[14:38] <jakub> BluesKaj sudo ./PokerTh-0.8.......
[14:38] <jakub> commans not found
[14:39] <phrearch> ikonia: archlinux. trying to install a modified webkit binary
[14:39] <phrearch> anirudhr: thanks!
[14:39] <ikonia> phrearch: ok, then I suggest you ask in #archlinux
[14:39] <rcconf> !adhoc
[14:39] <anirudhr> phrearch: No problem. :)
[14:39] <balachmar> theadmin: aah, I missed that (didn't include my name...)
[14:39] <SimeonK> hi, are there any differences between pendrivelinux ubuntu & the normal ubuntu?
[14:39] <ikonia> phrearch: (unless I've missunderstood the question)
[14:40] <phrearch> ikonia: well, the deb works on ubuntu obviously. im trying to get the right libs that ubuntu uses as well
[14:40] <klown> I just installed 11.04 on my desktop, I'm using a 32inch tv as my monitor, whichever resolution I use, the desktop goes past the screen boarders, how can I fix this?
[14:40] <theadmin> balachmar: Happens :)
[14:41] <ikonia> phrearch: you can download the source package and the dependencies are in the description file
[14:41] <balachmar> theadmin: even kill (-9) doesn't work!
[14:41] <phrearch> libglib seems to be the source of evil on my system
[14:41] <theadmin> phrearch: Again, just navigate to http://packages.ubuntu.com and do a search
[14:41] <RevSpecies116> klown - the problem could be the TV :-)
[14:41] <theadmin> balachmar: Okay, now that's totally awkward.
[14:41] <Castbound> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1436050 just in case someone is insterested
[14:41] <computerx> So the umask is a "not and" bitmask...
[14:42] <theadmin> balachmar: Probably a bug in the installer, lol
[14:42] <phrearch> theadmin: ok will do. thanks
[14:42] <computerx> Sooo, a umask of 07 will mean o-rwx?
[14:42] <klown> RevSpecies116, I've installed ubuntu on this, and fixed it before, I just cant recall how.
[14:43] <klown> I want to say it was the DPI settings in xorg.conf, but I cannot remember exactly how to do it.
[14:43] <llutz_> computerx: yes
[14:43] <computerx> k, I think I get it, thanks :)
[14:43] <llutz_> computerx: but you can't set it per directory
[14:44] <ZykoticK9> computerx, umask is subtracted from default permission
[14:44] <computerx> The main program that's causing the issue is the transmission daemon, which I can set a umask in the config
[14:44] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, klown, I think the conf files are locked down in NN to more degrees than before...
[14:44] <balachmar> llutz_: You got any idea on how to get rid of Xorg when even kill (-9) doesn't work?
[14:45] <llutz_> balachmar: what OS/distro?
[14:45] <balachmar> llutz_ Ubuntu 11.04
[14:45] <BluesKaj> jakemp, go to the file location right click on it , choose properties , click "make executable ", then try again
[14:46] <llutz_> balachmar: sudo pkill Xorg
[14:46] <klown> RevSpecies116, It would appear so, because my xorg.conf only has one line in it.
[14:46] <theadmin> Ubuntu without xorg is something ridiculous tbh [/offtopic]
[14:46] <BluesKaj> sorry jakemp , wrong guy
[14:47] <tsnovo> someone knows about a good web chat?
[14:47] <balachmar> llutz_ Doesn't work :S
[14:47] <llutz_> balachmar: you're sure Xorg still runs?
[14:47] <theadmin> tsnovo: Sorry, is offtopic. However if you're looking for a web-based IRC client I suggest Mibbit
[14:47] <[lan3y]> i've just had a go at packaging a program its worked, but im not sure if i done it right, where should i seek help? :)
[14:48] <balachmar> llutz_  1195 root      20   0  118m  18m  11m D    0  0.5   0:00.02 Xorg and the nvidia installer still complains
[14:48] <RevSpecies116> Mibbit doesn't connect to freenode
[14:48] <llutz_> RevSpecies116: it does
[14:48] <theadmin> llutz_: Nay, Freenode's banned it a long time ago
[14:49] <ule> freenode has they own webchat
[14:49] <llutz_> theadmin: really? i stand corrected then, sry
[14:50] <theadmin> llutz_: np
[14:50] <ZykoticK9> balachmar, "sudo kill -9 1195"
[14:50] <balachmar> ZykoticK9: already tried that :) doesn't work...
[14:50] <RevSpecies116> llutz - no worries :-)
[14:50] <little_king> how can i remove  libvlccore4 without apt-get
[14:50] <theadmin> little_king: dpkg -r ...?
[14:51] <BlouBlou> any audio-editor? and please, not audicity :P
[14:51] <BlouBlou> an advanced one if possible
[14:51] <theadmin> BlouBlou: gHex xD Okay, kidding, kidding.
[14:51] <RevSpecies116> little_king - synaptic? Aptitude?
[14:52] <little_king> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[14:52] <little_king> the software manager doesn't work for me
[14:53] <BlouBlou> theadmin: do you know any good one?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> BlouBlou, ardour
[14:53] <bazhang> BlouBlou, rosegarden? ardour?
[14:53] <theadmin> BlouBlou: I'd take a look at http://alternativeto.net/software/audacity/?platform=linux
[14:54] <RevSpecies116> Why, little_king, did you remove them or not using Ubuntu?
[14:54] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj, bazhang: yeah, ardour seems fine :)
[14:54] <little_king> i use ubutnu 11.04 but there is an error in the apt-get, becouse vlc
[14:54] <paolo> paul
[14:55] <melvinz> Is this the source code of Silverlight 4? http://silverlight.codeplex.com/SourceControl/changeset/view/61620#779543
[14:55] <frederik> hi. :) i try to install libtrash. i used apt-get install for installation and added "export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/local/lib/libtrash.so.1.8" and  "alias trashon=”export TRASH_OFF=NO”
[14:55] <frederik> alias trashoff=”export TRASH_OFF=YES” to my /etc/profile file but it still dont work. even the aliases dont work. any advise?
[14:55] <balachmar> Does anybody then maybe know how to prevent Xorg from starting? Then I will just reboot the system.
[14:55] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj, bazhang: jackd2 is asking if I want to enable the real-time priority, what should I do? yes or no?
[14:55] <RevSpecies116> Don't you want to resolve that vlc issue, little_king?
[14:55] <llutz_> !text | balachmar
[14:55] <robin0800> little_king, perhaps you should fix that first
[14:56] <bazhang> BlouBlou, depends what you want to do
[14:56] <balachmar> llutz_ ok thanks
[14:56] <BlouBlou> bazhang: just editing few audio-files for school
[14:56] <bazhang> BlouBlou, then no
[14:56] <skione> Hi, I need to install an older version of tomcat (5.5) but it doesn't seem to work (i.e. apt-get install tomcat5.5), is there a way to install older packages?
[14:57] <BlouBlou> bazhang: okay thanks
[14:57] <melvinz> I'd like to see Silverlight on Ubuntu too, closed or open source, so that I can upload to Skydrive... Is this the source code of Silverlight? http://silverlight.codeplex.com/SourceControl/changeset/view/61620#779543
[14:57] <BluesKaj> !moonlight | melvinz
[14:58] <melvinz> Alright, thanks, I'll try that.
[14:59] <melvinz> Is it the same as installing Moonlight from the go-mono site? I've tried that but it doesn't work...
[14:59] <theadmin> melvinz: Basically not. The repositories are prefered ways of installing software on any Linux-like OS, except maybe Slackware
[15:02] <frederik> hi. :) i try to install libtrash. i used apt-get install for installation and added "export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libtrash.so.2.4" and "alias trashon=”export TRASH_OFF=NO”
[15:02] <frederik> alias trashoff=”export TRASH_OFF=YES” to my /etc/profile file but it still dont work. even the aliases dont work. any advise?
[15:03] <An_Ony_Moose> I'm trying to upgrade at, but it doesn't start or stop. I looked at the prerm, and followed it down, but it seems that `stop atd' does nothing, just hangs there. How do I go about upgrading at?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> theadmin, there's a rumour one can run netflix on linux with moonlight ..it's not the case, so he thought he could use silverlight source code on ubuntu
[15:03] <theadmin> BluesKaj: Ah, I see.
[15:04] <An_Ony_Moose> (the same goes for start atd)
[15:04] <theadmin> BluesKaj: Except I don't actually know what Silverlight/Moonlight are.
[15:04] <abbavanisankar> Is there any operating system faster than ubuntu?
[15:05] <bazhang> abbavanisankar, why
[15:05] <th0r> abbavanisankar: A cray
[15:05] <abbavanisankar> Call me boni
[15:05] <bazhang> abbavanisankar, what?
[15:05] <abbavanisankar> Its because Ubuntu is damn slow on my comp.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> it's a web based graphics layer/player for browsers pushed by ms
[15:05] <RevSpecies116> Abbavanisankar - TinyCore Linux
[15:06] <BluesKaj> theadmin, ^
[15:06] <llutz_> abbavanisankar: MSDOS
[15:06] <th0r> abbavanisankar: then the question should be is there any computer faster than mine?
[15:06] <abbavanisankar> thanx Rev
[15:06] <abbavanisankar> But does it offer good graphics
[15:06] <RevSpecies116> Abbavanisankar - it runs in 10MB :-)
[15:07] <bazhang> abbavanisankar, thats not on topic for here
[15:07] <abbavanisankar> ??! 10 MB?
[15:07] <abbavanisankar> Any way thnx rev...
[15:08] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[15:08] <RevSpecies116> No troubles abbavanisankar :-)
[15:08] <RevSpecies116> And yes - Ten MB's
[15:08] <OY1R> Q: why is ubuntu's document(pdf) viewer so damn slow ?
[15:09] <OY1R> takes ages to load a pdf
[15:09] <OY1R> or rather how can i speed it up ??
[15:09] <RevSpecies116> OY1R - perhaps another PDF reader from the repo's?
[15:10] <skione> is there some reason why the jaunty repo is coming up 404?
[15:10] <llutz_> !eol | skione its not supported anymore
[15:10] <skione> right but hardy is there
[15:11] <llutz_> skione: hardy is LTS
[15:11] <skione> and that is older
[15:11] <RevSpecies116> HH is an LTS
[15:11] <abbavanisankar> Hey rev, Can u name the distribution again pls?
[15:11] <bazhang> skione, which is LTS
[15:11] <RevSpecies116> TinyCore Linux
[15:11] <bazhang> !ot | abbavanisankar
[15:11] <Tetracomm> I downloaded and used Wubi to install the latest Ubuntu yesterday on my Compaq Presario CQ5715, and at first Ubuntu booted mostly but didn't respond, I restarted last night and it worked, and now it won't boot again this morning. Windows 7 has been fine, though. Could someone please help me?
[15:11] <abbavanisankar> thnx
[15:11] <llutz_> skione: and LT stands for "Long Term"
[15:12] <theadmin> Tetracomm: WUBI is your problem mostly, normal installs work better
[15:12] <skione> thanks, all the instructions about install 1.5 tell me to go back to jaunty
[15:12] <llutz_> skione: install 1.5 of waht?
[15:12] <llutz_> what
[15:12] <RevSpecies116> 1.5?
[15:13] <An_Ony_Moose> I have a problem with at, it needs to be upgraded but trying to start/stop atd just hangs, so the prerm script never finishes. What can I do?
[15:13] <Tetracomm> theadmin: I want to use the normal install but this computer has only one partition and I won't be able to reinstall Windows 7, also...that same version of Ubuntu (11.11 I think) won't boot from the livecd either.
[15:13] <theadmin> Tetracomm: No problem to resize the Windows partition :)
[15:13] <skione> java 1.5 sorry
[15:14] <skione> and tomcat 5.5
[15:14] <theadmin> Tetracomm: As for the LiveCD, that's quite odd.
[15:14] <skione> it looks like they are in the hardy repo
[15:15] <html_inprogress> how do i mount a usb drive in vurtualbox ?
[15:15] <Tetracomm> theadmin: I resized the Windows partition yesterday and totally ruined Windows 7, I could not install nor uninstall software,and there was other weird behaviour. I had to run system restore to reset everything to factory default. I just got this computer yesterday and really need to get Ubuntu up and runnning. :)
[15:15] <LekeFly> How do i boot into command line?
[15:15] <bazhang> html_inprogress, which version of vbox
[15:15] <bazhang> !nox | LekeFly
[15:17] <html_inprogress> vurtual ose (64 bit is what im running
[15:18] <winterdj> how can I remove a PPA repository from apt?
[15:18] <bazhang> html_inprogress, ose cant use usb
[15:18] <bazhang> !info ppa-purge | winterdj
[15:18] <html_inprogress> bazhang, so what do i need ?
[15:18] <bazhang> html_inprogress, the one from their website
[15:19] <basilfaulty> I want to install 10.10 so I can use ati-10.10/11, how can I make a USB install from the iso?
[15:19] <llutz_> html_inprogress: the vbox extension pack  from their website
[15:19] <IdleOne> !usb | basilfaulty
[15:19] <bazhang> basilfaulty, unetbootin
[15:19] <basilfaulty> or does anyone know how to install ati-10.10 on natty?
[15:20] <basilfaulty> ah ye, thanks, will check it out
[15:20] <RevSpecies116> AMD dropped support for lots of things post NN, basilfaulty
[15:21] <krw> hi
[15:21] <basilfaulty> the main error I was getting was about the version of X being incompatable with fglrx
[15:21] <krw> ive got a big problem with my freshly upgraded ubuntu
[15:22] <compdoc> sorry to hear that
[15:22] <krw> th cursor does not moving
[15:22] <krw> e
[15:23] <krw> and ive got a error msg on the welcome screen
[15:23] <krw> ' It seems that you do not have the hardware required to run Unity '
[15:23] <krw> ive got a Nvidia 9600GT
[15:24] <An_Ony_Moose> krw: try system>administration>hardware drivers
[15:24] <bazhang> krw, please stop with the enter key, its impossible to follow
[15:24] <krw> but i dont know how can i fix it, without mouse
[15:24] <An_Ony_Moose> oh right
[15:24] <djiefo> Hi, whats the best mp3 player in linux? I want something close of winamp, that easy to manage playlist and put skins?
[15:24] <krw> bazhang: sorry
[15:24] <bazhang> djiefo, no best, audacious is close to winamp though
[15:24] <BluesKaj> krw open system /admin / additional drivers , choose the recommended driver and install, then you'll have to reboot.
[15:25] <tomek_> how can i get root priviledges?
[15:25] <bazhang> tomek_, to do what
[15:25] <krw> BluesKaj: i can not move my cursor
[15:25] <tomek_> baz:to login into root account
[15:25] <krw> BluesKaj: how can i do it from terminal ?
[15:25] <djiefo> bazhang,  thx mate, will try it
[15:25] <BluesKaj> krw, sorry ...bummer
[15:25] <bazhang> tomek_, you dont do that. use sudo
[15:25] <An_Ony_Moose> krw: switch to a tty (ctrl-alt-f2), log in, then type "jockey-text -a" and press enter
[15:26] <CyborgSmurf> I have a question considering MacBook Mail issues... should I take this problem elsewhere?
[15:26] <An_Ony_Moose> krw: or put jockey-text -a in a termianl
[15:26] <bazhang> CyborgSmurf, an apple channel?
[15:27] <CyborgSmurf> bazhang: I dont know much about apple but it has something to do  with smtp
[15:27] <krw> An_Ony_Moose: i ran it, but nothing happened :(
[15:27] <bazhang> CyborgSmurf, this is ubuntu support, try a macos or apple channel
[15:27] <tomek_> how to login as a root?
[15:27] <bazhang> tomek_, you dont. stop asking
[15:27] <CyborgSmurf> bazhang: oh, sorry... (Im out of my head today) thanks :)
[15:27] <IdleOne> tomaw: sudo -i
[15:28] <krw> An_Ony_Moose: there is a message on the front panel, that alert me ' there are more additional drivers available ', but how to use it without cursor ?
[15:28] <IdleOne> tomek_: sudo -i
[15:28] <tomek_> thanks
[15:28] <An_Ony_Moose> krw: do you have any idea why your mouse doesn't work?
[15:29] <IdleOne> tomek_: be very careful what commands you run while logged in with that
[15:29] <tomek_> i know
[15:29] <krw> An_One_Moose: i think the problem comes from Xorg
[15:29] <klown> I just installed 11.04 and I am having issues with my screen resolution.  I am using a tv (32in) as my montior, and my taskbars are hidden.  The resolutions in my nvidia config are not helping.
[15:30] <BluesKaj> krw, run , sudo nvidia-xconfig
[15:31] <krw> BluesKay: sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[15:32] <ikonia> kinux: for graphical apps, use gksudo (as an aside)
[15:32] <krw> i think, when the cursor problem fixed, then i can easily fix the nvidia error
[15:32] <BluesKaj> krw no :  run,  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[15:33] <Ketzal> t
[15:33] <rafi> hello evryone
[15:33] <nlko> hi guys, im trying to compile nfsshell from source. does anyone know if there is a binary version available for ubuntu, or, can someone help me with the following errors. http://www.pastie.org/2022637
[15:34] <krw> BluesKaj: nothing happen
[15:34] <zamba> how do i manage eth0 with network manager?
[15:34] <tomek_> any programmers here?
[15:34] <rafi> i have a problem.during instaliation of adobe dreamweaver cs4 in ubuntu 10.04,this massege repeat for a long tim:fixme:shdocvw:InPlaceActiveObject_TranslateAccelerator (0x14b4a8)->(0x12fb28)
[15:34] <bazhang> tomek_, whats the question
[15:34] <rafi> is there anyone help me?
[15:35] <bazhang> rafi, #winehq
[15:35] <bazhang> !appdb | rafi
[15:35] <IdleOne> tomek_: it is easier to help if you tell us exactly what you are trying to accomplish
[15:36] <ikonia> nlko: that project looks dead and unlikley to work on a modern distro without serious patches
[15:36] <Tetracomm> No one knows what I can do about my wubi problem?
[15:36] <bazhang> Tetracomm, what problem
[15:37] <nlko> ikonia: ah ok, thanks
[15:38] <Tetracomm> Btw. Can I use Wubi to install whatever version of Ubuntu (even old) that is on my livecd?
[15:39] <Tetracomm> Oh wait, Wubi comes with the cd. :D
[15:39] <BluesKaj> krw , in the terminal sudo lshw -C video ...look for product that should show your graphics card if it's recognized
[15:39] <klown> I just installed 11.04 and I am having issues with my screen resolution.  I am using a tv (32in) as my montior, and my taskbars are hidden.  The resolutions in my nvidia config are not helping.
[15:40] <WHAT_UP> Is there a way to control which monitor things are being displayed on via the terminal? I don't want to have to go through NVIDIA server settings each time, and it would be nice to be able to have a nice button i could just click on =) and have both the laptop and external display clone each other =).
[15:40] <bazhang> WHAT_UP, a button in the terminal?
[15:41] <WHAT_UP> bazhang: well, theoretically, if i can control it through the terminal then i can make a script out of it
[15:41] <bazhang> WHAT_UP, randr?
[15:41] <royale1223> i need to list all files in my home folder(exclude dirs). How can I do that in terminal?
[15:41] <krw> BluesKaj: which data do you want to know? here is some line, but no errors
[15:42] <bazhang> krw, use pastebin
[15:42] <BluesKaj> krw product
[15:42] <krw> BluesKaj: product: G94 [GeForce 9600 GT]
[15:42] <krw> bazhang: cannot mark text, my mouse doesnt work ..
[15:43] <Migaaresno> royale1223: ls -R
[15:43] <Migaaresno> Woops, sorry. I cant read.
[15:44] <krw> ill come back soon, thx for help, bb
[15:46] <WHAT_UP> bazhang: i'm not even getting the second monitor listed if i type "xrandr", only the laptop monitor
[15:46] <royale1223> i need to list all files in my home folder(exclude dirs). How can I do that in terminal?
[15:46] <duiu> If I'm in a recovery terminal and I manually mount /, what's the command that you run to tell the terminal you mounted / and want to be able to access it?
[15:46] <ech0s7> hi all
[15:47] <royale1223> duiu: i think / is already mounted in a recovery shell.
[15:48] <Barzogh> royale1223: ls -a
[15:48] <royale1223> Barzogh: it lists dirs. I dont want dirs.
[15:49] <royale1223> Barzogh: Also I need path to the files. ls wont show path.
[15:50] <mengu> hi.
[15:50] <mengu> why in the earth the dock on the left in unity sticks and doesn't go away
[15:50] <Barzogh> royale1223: http://www.ahinc.com/linux101/files.htm#List%20the%20Contents%20of%20a%20directory
[15:51] <royale1223> mengu: You can switch to classic view when you login.
[15:51] <hermit_> I'm connected to a server via ssh. How do i run a bash script, and keep it running after I close the ssh session? Would making it a background job work? (&)
[15:51] <mengu> royale1223: sure i can. but that is not the answer.
[15:51] <ech0s7> i have a problem with ubuntu natty classic 11.04: the clock text is not visible correctly... i have also tried gnome-panel --replace, but with no success... http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/860/screenry.png/
[15:52] <royale1223> Barzogh: ls dont show path.
[15:52] <IdleOne> mengu: you can change the size of icons and set the launcher to auto hide by installing compizcofig-settings-manager.
[15:53] <bazhang> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/easily-configure-ubuntus-unity-interface-confity-linux/ mengu
[15:53] <royale1223> mengu: You cant work in unity without that dock.
[15:53] <IdleOne> royale1223: he isn't trying to remove it he is trying to get it to autohide
[15:53] <mengu> you got me wrong.
[15:53] <mengu> the dock is stuck in there.
[15:53] <mengu> when i move my mouse out of it, it still stays there
[15:54] <royale1223> IdleOne, mengu: oh i see.
[15:54] <IdleOne> mengu: click on an active window, does it hide?
[15:54] <mengu> IdleOne: though that link is awesome, thanks for that. :)
[15:54] <mengu> IdleOne: nope, it does not.
[15:54] <IdleOne> mengu: try hitting alt-tab
[15:55] <klown_> Anyone have any idea how to fix a screen resolution issue with 11.04.  Cant see taskbars at all
[15:55] <mengu> IdleOne: done that, no help
[15:55] <tomek_> what about games for linux , who knows any interesting title?
[15:55] <bazhang> !games > tomek_
[15:55] <IdleOne> mengu: then I suggest you take a look at the link bazhang gave you and also install CCSM
[15:55] <tomek_> !games
[15:55] <bazhang> mengu, what about confity
[15:55] <phox_> !games > phox_
[15:56] <royale1223> tomek_: try battle for wesnoth. There are lots of good games in the playdeb repo too.
[15:57] <Guest43178> quit
[15:58] <plandoll12> is anyone else having trouble with the new linux kernel?
[15:58] <ikonia> plandoll12: which new linux kernel ?
[15:58] <compdoc> plandoll12, works fine for me on a few systems being used as servers
[15:58] <plandoll12> I upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 and the kernel that came with it is having trouble booting
[15:59] <ikonia> plandoll12: explain your problem
[15:59] <plandoll12> when I boot I get to the grub loader fine but when I select the latest version of linux it starts to boot, but it stops after a bit
[15:59] <plandoll12> it just stops loading
[16:00] <ikonia> plandoll12: remove the splash screen and look for errors
[16:00] <plandoll12> how?
[16:00] <ikonia> I'm sure there is a factoid for it
[16:00] <ikonia> !splash
[16:00] <ikonia> nope
[16:00] <bazhang> !nox
[16:00] <judget> how do I register my nick with freenode?
[16:00] <ikonia> bazhang: thank you
[16:01] <bazhang> judget, join #freenode
[16:01] <plandoll12> alright I
[16:01] <plandoll12> I'll try that out
[16:02] <plandoll12> if that doesn't help should I try to reinstall the kernel?
[16:02] <ikonia> plandoll12: no
[16:02] <ikonia> plandoll12: you should do that
[16:02] <ikonia> plandoll12: then feed back to us
[16:02] <plandoll12> ok
[16:02] <plandoll12> thx
[16:02] <ikonia> plandoll12: you don't even know there is a problem with the kernel at this stage
[16:02] <[an]droidman> judget: /msg nickserv register yourpassword youremail
[16:04] <phantomcircuit> i have some code id like to have packaged properly and im willing to pay someone else to do it since i dont have any idea how to do it properly
[16:04] <bazhang> !packaging | phantomcircuit
[16:05] <phantomcircuit> bazhang, yeah i was saying i dont know or want to learn so id rather pay someone to do it
[16:06] <bazhang> phantomcircuit, not the ways things work here
[16:06] <phantomcircuit> how many times do you have someone willing to pay for foss to be packaged?
[16:06] <ech0s7> how can i configure synaptic touchpad speed?
[16:06] <ech0s7> in preference>mouse i can change global speed mouse
[16:06] <ech0s7> (usb + synaptic touchpad)
[16:07] <dfordivam>  /msg NickServ identify dinoma
[16:07] <IdleOne> phantomcircuit: try asking in #ubuntu-packaging, you may find someone willing to take a look at the code and package it for you.
[16:07] <phantomcircuit> thanks
[16:07] <ech0s7> i would set different speed for touchpad and usb mouse
[16:07] <IdleOne> phantomcircuit: offering to pay is almost insulting btw but maybe someone will take you up on it.
[16:07] <tomek_> what is good video editing software for ubuntu?
[16:07] <tomek_> avi to dvd converter etc ...
[16:08] <BluesKaj> tomek_, ffmpeg
[16:08] <bazhang> devede tomek_
[16:08] <tomek_> in win i have pinnacle ...
[16:08] <phantomcircuit> IdleOne, well i've had a couple of people say they'd do it and not follow through or even do like half the work
[16:08] <ZykoticK9> tomek_, if you're looking for dvd output check out devede as bazhang just suggested
[16:08] <bazhang> tomek_, in other cases handbrake
[16:08] <phantomcircuit> IdleOne, i find people finish things if they're paid to do so, even if it's a small amount
[16:09] <IdleOne> phantomcircuit: devs like to package what they consider to be quality, this is why I suggest you ask them to help and not offer to pay.
[16:09] <phantomcircuit> the code is no quality
[16:09] <phantomcircuit> hehe
[16:09] <phantomcircuit> not*
[16:10] <IdleOne> phantomcircuit: probably why you haven't been able to find someone to attach themselves to it. but anyway ask in there and maybe someone will.
[16:10] <djiefo> Hi, is it possible to set Live! Cam Video IM Pro  as default microphone in wine?
[16:11] <phox_> How do I get Nautilus to display my location in plain text, not just images of the folder names?
[16:11] <ZykoticK9> phox_, ctrl+l
[16:12] <phox_> zykoticK9: I want it to stay that way. Sort of like in explorer on windows.
[16:12] <ZykoticK9> phox_, sorry, i don't have an answer to make it permanent
[16:13] <ZykoticK9> phox_, i seem to remember that used to be the default
[16:13] <barberan> hi
[16:13] <jon_athon> How do I submit bugs to Ubuntu?
[16:13] <djiefo> Hi, is it possible to set Live! Cam Video IM Pro  as default microphone in wine?
[16:14] <bazhang> !bugs > jon_athon
[16:14] <barberan> jon_athon, did you find something ?
[16:14] <EmuAlert> Can you set more than one key combination to the same shortcut?
[16:14] <jon_athon> barberan, my touchpad is erratic
[16:14] <jon_athon> if I touch it the pointer jumps all over
[16:15] <jon_athon> it clicks just by dragging around
[16:15] <jon_athon> double clicks
[16:15] <jon_athon> I think it's a speed addict
[16:15] <barberan> wierd
[16:15] <[THC]AcidRain> i need help changing permissions of my external drive. when i open nautilus it still says permissions denied
[16:15] <[THC]AcidRain> any ideas?
[16:15] <jon_athon> Yea, I dunno what package has the bug though....
[16:15] <djiefo> Hi, is it possible to set Live! Cam Video IM Pro  as default microphone with wine?
[16:16] <IdleOne> djiefo: ask in #winehq
[16:16] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, what filesystem
[16:16] <djiefo> IdleOne,  thx
[16:16] <[THC]AcidRain> hold on
[16:17] <IdleOne> jon_athon: sounds like the touchpad is set way too sensitive. try adjusting the sensitivity in the Mouse settings.
[16:17] <[THC]AcidRain> HPFS/NTFS filesystem
[16:18] <jon_athon> IdleOne, tried that
[16:18] <halvor> hello
[16:18] <jon_athon> IdleOne, my sensitivity is the lowest it will go
[16:20] <robin0800> jon_athon, install pointing devices
[16:20] <drudge01> how do i gzip?
[16:20] <IdleOne> jon_athon: run: apt-cache policy tpconfig
[16:20] <[THC]AcidRain> bazhang: my main problem is when im logging into the ftp server. i get an error unable to set anonymous privaledges
[16:20] <IdleOne> is it installed?
[16:20] <drudge01> do i use gzip -xcfg folder folder.zip
[16:20] <[THC]AcidRain> bazhang: i believe this has to do with me not being able to change the privaledges of the external drive
[16:21] <ZykoticK9> drudge01, gzip uses a gz extension usually, not zip.
[16:21] <th0r> I have located a number of pages with differing methods to disable/remove gnome-keyring. Is there an up-to-date way to do this?
[16:21] <drudge01> ok
[16:21] <drudge01> do i use gzip -xcfg folder folder.gz
[16:21] <jon_athon> IdleOne, yea
[16:21] <NewUser> How to downgrade to grub 0.97
[16:21] <NewUser> ?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> !unp
[16:22] <BluesKaj> dumb bot
[16:22] <bazhang> !info unp
[16:22] <bazhang> dont need a factoid for everything :)
[16:22] <IdleOne> jon_athon: have you tried running tpconfig?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> still dumb , bazhang :)
[16:22] <jon_athon> IdleOne, nope
[16:23] <jon_athon> IdleOne, what is it?
[16:23] <IdleOne> jon_athon: tpconfig - touchpad device configuration utility
[16:23] <rafi> hello evryone
[16:23] <rafi> is there anyone help me?
[16:23] <rafi> i have a problem.during instaliation of adobe dreamweaver cs4 in ubuntu 10.04,this massege repeat for a long tim:fixme:shdocvw:InPlaceActiveObject_TranslateAccelerator (0x14b4a8)->(0x12fb28)
[16:23] <FloodBot1> rafi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:24] <bazhang> rafi, #winehq as I said before
[16:24] <IdleOne> jon_athon: give it a shot, if that doesn't help I am not sure what else you can do. I don't have a touchpad here to try on.
[16:24] <ZykoticK9> drudge01, looks like "tar cvfz filename.tar.gz path_to_folder" would work
[16:24] <BluesKaj> bazhang, I do , I hate typing
[16:25] <bazhang> !appdb | rafi please read again
[16:26] <jon_athon> IdleOne, well, despite saying it was installed, when I tried to run it it says it's not installed
[16:26] <djiefo> (in xubuntu 11.04)  Hi, I installed Ventrilo with wine and I try to find a way to set my webcam (Live! Cam Video IM Pro) as default microphone but I dunno how. And I don't see the option to take it in Ventrilo. All my friends using Ventrilo for voice chat... It works well but no microphone recognized at the moment
[16:26] <djiefo> Thx in advance
[16:26] <IdleOne> jon_athon: install it :)
[16:27] <judget>  can someone advise me on failed mysql update to 5.1 is this the right place to get help with that?
[16:27] <ikonia> depends how you updated it
[16:27] <judget> ikonia this bean with a postfix uninstall reinstall
[16:28] <judget> here is a pastebin of what is happening http://pastebin.com/c0mJzR
[16:28] <ikonia> judget: you just said mysql
[16:28] <administrator_> hello everyone
[16:28] <administrator_> this is my first time to here
[16:28] <administrator_> exciting
[16:28] <ikonia> judget: that pastebin is empty
[16:29] <ZykoticK9> judget, "Unknown Paste ID!"
[16:29] <judget> well the issue is that if i reboot mysql starts and seems to run fine here is my running version  mysql> SELECT version();
[16:29] <judget> +--------------------+
[16:29] <judget> | version()          |
[16:29] <judget> +--------------------+
[16:29] <judget> | 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.8 |
[16:29] <FloodBot1> judget: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <ikonia> judget: stop it
[16:29] <judget> sorry
[16:29] <ikonia> judget: is this mysql or postfix problem
[16:29] <djiefo> (in xubuntu 11.04)  Hi, I installed Ventrilo with wine and I try to find a way to set my webcam (Live! Cam Video IM Pro) as default microphone but I dunno how. And I don't see the option to take it in Ventrilo. All my friends using Ventrilo for voice chat... It works well but no microphone recognized at the moment
[16:30] <bazhang> djiefo, doubt that wine can do hardware, try #winehq to confirm
[16:30] <judget> ikonia the issue seems to revolve around trying to stop and restart mysql from /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[16:30] <djiefo> bazhang,  i'm already on it...
[16:30] <ikonia> judget: what is the actual issue you're having
[16:30] <judget> it appeared during a postfix uninstall / reinstall
[16:30] <bazhang> djiefo, so be patient, that's the channel to ask in
[16:31] <D0minat0r> hi i have a problem, my /etc/environment has the correct path but all the logge din users gets wrong path, cant run ifconfig and so on
[16:31] <ikonia> judget: why do you keep referencing postfix
[16:31] <ikonia> judget: is this a mysql problem or a postfix problem
[16:31] <D0minat0r> anyone have an idea what i have done?
[16:31] <djiefo> bazhang,  i'm patient, i am a linux user lollll
[16:32] <IdleOne> djiefo: apparently you're not patient you keep asking in here for help about something that isn't provided in here :)
[16:33] <judget> My apologies ikonia the issue began when I tried to uninstall / resinstall postfix.
[16:33] <ikonia> judget: ok - what is the actual issue
[16:33] <jon_athon> IdleOne, Well, it's installed.. but it won't let me modify any settings
[16:34] <IdleOne> jon_athon: it is a GUI tool?
[16:34] <osse> Just installed gnuplot from source. It's located in /usr/local/bin which is before /usr/bin in $PATH. Still, when I type gnuplot at the prompt the one in /usr/bin is started. 'which gnuplot' and 'whereis gnuplot' give different locations. What's going on here??
[16:34] <jon_athon> IdleOne, no
[16:34] <IdleOne> jon_athon: try running with sudo perhaps.
[16:34] <djiefo> IdleOne, apparently... i maybe need a psychologist too
[16:34] <IdleOne> don't we all
[16:34] <djiefo> IdleOne,  :)
[16:35] <klown_> I'm having an issue with my screen resolution, resolutions in nvidia-xsettings wont fix it.  Can't see my taskbars at all.  Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[16:35] <jon_athon> IdleOne, ye I had a root terminal open
[16:35] <ZykoticK9> klown_, are you using Unity or Classic?
[16:35] <klown_> classic
[16:35] <judget> ikonia take a look at this paste please http://paste.ubuntu.com/619228/
[16:36] <ZykoticK9> klown_, ok, just checking
[16:36] <IdleOne> sorry jon_athon I don't know what else to suggest.
[16:36] <jon_athon> IdleOne, no worries
[16:36] <jon_athon> thanks
[16:37] <ikonia> judget: whats the problem
[16:37] <henux> Hi.
[16:37] <henux> How do I install eclipse? It's given me some weird error
[16:37] <judget> ikona maybe i shoudl be asking the postfix channel but it seems that postfix is trying to update mysql to 5.1 and for some reason that is failing
[16:37] <henux> Hello?
[16:37] <judget> ikonia  maybe i shoudl be asking the postfix channel but it seems that postfix is trying to update mysql to 5.1 and for some reason that is failing
[16:37] <ikonia> judget: why do you keep referencing postfix, they are nothing to do with each other
[16:38] <EvilZimsky> Hmmm
[16:38] <edbian> henux: What's the error?
[16:38] <henux> It gives me 'java 1.4 is not supported by this package. Please install Java 1.6 first"
[16:38] <m00se> My mom tried to install walmart's picture upload software on her ubuntu machine and it screwed something up - anyone have any idea on what could have happened?
[16:38] <EvilZimsky> Trollolololololololol
[16:38] <EvilZimsky> Herpa derpa derpa derp
[16:38] <bazhang> EvilZimsky, stop that
[16:38] <BluesKaj> mysql to 5.1 ?
[16:38] <bazhang> m00se, from where
[16:38] <judget> ikonia the reason i refer to postfix is that when i attempt to uninstall and reinstall postfix it seems that it may be trying to upgrade mysql or it is confused about the version of mysql that is running  and the result is that mysql fails to restart
[16:39] <m00se> From the walmart website.
[16:39] <EvilZimsky> sorry
[16:39] <henux> m00se: ohai
[16:39] <m00se> hi henux
[16:39] <bazhang> m00se, ubuntu software?
[16:39] <EvilZimsky> couldn't resist the urge
[16:39] <ikonia> judget: first postfix is nothing to do with mysql - so forget about it, it has no interest/control over mysql
[16:39] <bazhang> EvilZimsky, take it elsewhere
[16:39] <m00se> I don't think so bazhang - it's windows/mac only.
[16:39] <bazhang> m00se, thats why then. not an ubuntu issue
[16:39] <[an]droidman> henux: then install java 1.6: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[16:40] <IdleOne> -jre
[16:40] <henux> [an]droidman: oh ok thanks
[16:40] <edbian> m00se: Then she shouldn't have been able to make 1 mm of progress on Ubuntu.
[16:40] <robin0800> m00se, was it for linux?
[16:40] <m00se> You don't know my mom.
[16:40] <winterdj> Has anyone had trouble with APF blocking outgoing traffic (like DNS lookups) even with outgoing filtering disabled?
[16:40] <m00se> She probably threatened it with a wooden spoon.
[16:40] <[an]droidman> IdleOne: both download for jdk
[16:40] <djiefo> IdleOne,  actually, we can't do hardware with winehq but there's a linux program to use ventrilo servers called Mangler :)
[16:40] <djiefo> That why my question was post in both places
[16:41] <IdleOne> djiefo: happy you figured it out
[16:41] <judget> ikonia  I would agree with you on that but for some reason when i do a apt-get install postfix it is distrubing the mysql
[16:41] <judget> if it were a soimple issue i would not be addressing it here
[16:41] <edbian> m00se: Well perhaps we can repair what happened.  What is the immediate problem?
[16:41] <ikonia> judget: it possibly wants to shut it down before the install
[16:41] <ikonia> !info postfix
[16:42] <ikonia> judget: there are mysql modules for postfix, so it may want to shut it down before the install
[16:42] <Anastasius> Mysquirrel, (mysquirrel, mysquirrel), talkin' 'bout, my squirrelllll *mysquirrel*
[16:42] <IdleOne> Anastasius: please don't
[16:42] <Anastasius> k.
[16:42] <judget> ok so then maybe i should inquire at the postfix channel?
[16:42] <IdleOne> thank you
[16:43] <ikonia> judget: why ?
[16:43] <ikonia> judget: postfix doesn't make ubuntu packages
[16:43] <ikonia> #postfix channel doesn't make ubuntu packages
[16:43] <judget> ok well I am happy to follow any suggestions. I have been trying to figure this out for several days
[16:43] <jimjam> Klown_ : Did you get your panel issues sorted out?
[16:44] <ikonia> judget: I'm still not seeing an actual problem
[16:44] <ikonia> judget: what is the actual problem
[16:44] <th0r> judget: do you have the latest mysql installed? might be that the latest postfix requires the latest mysql for those modules mentioned earlier
[16:44] <badmox> hi i have a problem with the session management on 11.04 it wont re open programs on reboot
[16:44] <judget> ikonia I will attemopt to duplicate the problem and pastebin the screen results for you ok?
[16:45] <ikonia> judget: ok, or you could just explain the problem
[16:45] <tallnatt> Has anybody had sucess  installing Natty Server with RAID 5?
[16:45] <klown_> jimjam, no i didnt.
[16:46] <jimjam> klown_: when did the problems start?
[16:46] <klown_> jimjam, when I installed today :P
[16:46] <judget> ikonia look at this pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/619237/
[16:47] <judget> after that I cannot start mysql unless i reboot the server that is the problem
[16:47] <jimjam> klown_: congrats :-p have you had panels visible at all? Or were they just not visible when you first started up?
[16:47] <ikonia> judget: ok - read the error
[16:47] <klown_> they are "visible" but due to screen resolution I cannot see them.
[16:47] <klown_> screen isnt fitting the monitor.
[16:47] <ikonia> judget: "postfix is not installed"
[16:48] <sgtgarzya> ciao
[16:48] <bazhang> !it | sgtgarzya
[16:48] <sgtgarzya> !list
[16:48] <jimjam> klown_: O...so do you need help adjusting screen resolution?
[16:48] <klown_> jimjam, yes
[16:49] <klown_> jimjam, adding new resolutions and such.
[16:49] <judget> ikonia it says that mysal-server-5.0 is not configured yet
[16:49] <judget> and it is whining about a dependancy problem
[16:49] <__doc__> hi. I'm trying to create an usb startup disk. When I use the startup-disk-creator, I get "boot error". When I use UnetBootin and the vanilla 10.04 iso, it works. But when I use uck to make the iso I get "boot error". I also get "boot error" for ISOs other people customized. Any idea?
[16:49] <ikonia> judget: no - forget that, the first error, you're trying to purge postfix, it's not even installed
[16:50] <ikonia> judget: actually read the errors
[16:50] <IdleOne> royale1223: please ask your questions in the channel so that others might help if they can.
[16:50] <judget> ok so I will reboot and attempt to install postfix
[16:50] <ikonia> judget: ??
[16:50] <ikonia> judget: why are you rebooting
[16:50] <judget> and see what happens
[16:50] <ikonia> judget: you're just doing random things
[16:50] <D0minat0r> hi i have a problem, my /etc/environment has the correct path but all the logge din users gets wrong path, cant run ifconfig and so on
[16:50] <ikonia> judget: you're trying to remove a package that doesn't exist, now you're saying you want to reboot and install it
[16:50] <judget> i am rebooting becoz that is the only way I can get mysql to start again unless u have another suggestion :)
[16:50] <D0minat0r> anyone have an idea how to get the correct $PATH back?
[16:51] <ikonia> judget: what do you want to do ?
[16:51] <ikonia> judget: what happens if you do "sudo service mysql start"
[16:51] <ikonia> D0minat0r: quit the shell and log back in
[16:51] <D0minat0r> ikonia:
[16:51] <ikonia> D0minat0r: source your .bashrc file
[16:51] <D0minat0r> ikonia: wont work
[16:51] <D0minat0r> ikonia: done that
[16:51] <judget> ikonia this is 8,04 i do not think the sudoi service works on that version but i will try it
[16:51] <ikonia> judget: ok, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[16:52] <ikonia> judget: you also known 8.04 is EOL
[16:52] <ikonia> !8.04
[16:52] <jimjam> klown_ : if you type "randr" without quotes in shell, what does the line near the very top say? With minimum, current and maximum?
[16:52] <CoolCoder> external keyboard is not working properly after suspend on my laptop/. any fix?
[16:52] <jimjam> klown_ : Correction, "xrandr"
[16:53] <EmuAlert> How do I list installed codecs for ffmpeg?
[16:53] <klown_> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[16:53] <klown_> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 175, current 1280 x 720, maximum 1280 x 720
[16:53] <barnburner> can someone help me with a serious problem?
[16:53] <judget> ikonia sudo service mysql start fails here is the pastebin of syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/619239/
[16:53] <bazhang> barnburner, what issue
[16:54] <royale1223> IdleOne: I need to list all files in directry recursively with full path, excluding dirs.
[16:54] <royale1223> IdleOne: How do i do that?
[16:54] <judget> ikonia looks like a permissions issue?
[16:54] <ikonia> judget: what ???
[16:54] <ikonia> judget: why do you think that is a permissions problem ?
[16:55] <judget> ikonia the syslog points to a permission issue doesnt it?
[16:55] <IdleOne> royale1223: "ls -aR ~/ > ~/Desktop/filename.txt"  that will give you a text file with all directories and files in each dir. I don't know how to not list the dirs.
[16:55] <ikonia> judget: what syslog ? you've not posted the syslog
[16:55] <jimjam> klown_ : hmm...ok. How do you know that the panels are there at all?
[16:55] <klown_> jimjam, because I can slightly see them.
[16:56] <klown_> like, the very bottom of the firefox icon
[16:56] <CoolCoder> external keyboard is not working properly after suspend on my DEL laptop. any fix? this is a serious issues. please any help?
[16:56] <ikonia> judget: can you please stop doing random things and just answer the quesitons I ask
[16:56] <ikonia> judget: what happens when you do "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start"
[16:56] <klown_> jimjam, I dont know if this helps, but I am using a 32inch tv for my monitor.  dvi out.
[16:56] <quantumlemur> hey, I'm on a fresh install of 11.04, and my laptop battery indicator sometimes says that it's plugged in and charging, when it's not actually.  plugging it in and unplugging it can sometimes reset it, so it's correct.  It also sometimes doesn't show my secondary battery.  Any ideas, or is there any way to restart the battery monitor so that it redetects everything?
[16:56] <quiescens> IdleOne: they already left for some reason, shrugs
[16:56] <judget> ikonia my apologies look here pls http://paste.ubuntu.com/619242/
[16:57] <IdleOne> quiescens: typical :/
[16:57] <bazhang> and back
[16:57] <IdleOne> royale1223: "ls -aR ~/ > ~/Desktop/filename.txt"  that will give you a text file with all directories and files in each dir. I don't know how to not list the dirs.
[16:57] <ikonia> judget: stop, and answer the questions I'm asking
[16:57] <ikonia> judget: what happens when you do "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start"
[16:58] <oCean> royale1223: find . -type f will only listregular files
[16:58] <jimjam> klown_: That's interesting, thanks. To be honest with you I'm new to this, but this site has a good explanation of setting up a custom resolution - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html - I'm going to have a play about with it, and I suggest you do the same.
[16:58] <ikonia> judget: have you changed your database file path to /development ?
[16:58] <quiescens> royale1223: find (directory) ! -type d
[16:58] <royale1223> oCean: thanks
[16:58] <barnburner> i downloaded backtrack 5 and burned it to a live cd and after i dual booted it i cant get into my windows 7
[16:59] <jimjam> klown_: btw, what does the next line in the output say?
[16:59] <royale1223> quiescens: thanks
[16:59] <ikonia> barnburner: support for backtrack is in #backtrack-linux not here
[16:59] <royale1223> IdleOne: thanks
[16:59] <judget> ikona it fails here is paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/619244/
[16:59] <klown_> default connected 1280x720+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[16:59] <ikonia> judget: that's the syslog again
[17:00] <IdleOne> oCean: that is handy to know :)
[17:00] <ikonia> judget: I've asked you 3 times to stop posting the syslog and just tell me what happens when you run "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start"
[17:00] <judget> ikonia that is the syslog after an attempted restart
[17:00] <ikonia> judget: yes, and I've told you to stop posting the syslog -
[17:00] <badmox> i have a problem with the session management on 11.04 it wont re open programs on reboot
[17:00] <judget> i am looking at the warnings which look like a permissions error
[17:00] <klown_> jimjam, I just dont know the resolution i'd need to set it to.
[17:00] <ikonia> judget: you can't listen to instructions and give information back, so I'm going to let you carry on, on your own
[17:01] <ikonia> judget: 8.04 is not supported any more so please stop asking
[17:01] <IdleOne> judget: seriously you need to stop thinking and start answering exactly what ikonia is asking you. He can help but only if you provide the info he asks for.
[17:01] <judget> when i run sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start it fails
[17:01] <judget> i was tryinmg to show you why it fails in the syslog
[17:02] <jimjam> klown_: Well if you're at 1280 x 720 and your monitor is a little smaller, try 1280 x 690
[17:02] <oCean> IdleOne: find is another *nix powertool
[17:02] <ikonia> judget: you're on your own - I'm not interested any more
[17:02] <klown_> jimjam, thanks, ill try that.
[17:02] <jimjam> klown_ : since the standard panel size seems to be 23px
[17:03] <judget> ok ikonia thanks anyway it seems we have a comminucation problem here
[17:03] <jimjam> klown_ : np, gl
[17:03] <ikonia> judget: I assure you we don't, you just don't listen and do random things
[17:03] <judget> ikonia you asked me to srestart mysql and tell u what happended. And i tolde you that it failed
[17:04] <ikonia> judget: then I asked you to stop pasting the pastebin,
[17:04] <djiefo> damn chmod +x is our friend in 11.04 :)
[17:04] <ikonia> judget: and you did it again
[17:04] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[17:04] <judget> ok i woint paste unless u ask me too i was just trying to show u the results of the faiuled start
[17:04] <ikonia> judget: good luck
[17:04] <Tetracomm> How do I determine whether my kernel is 32 or 64 bit at the command prompt?
[17:05] <ikonia> Tetracomm: uname -m
[17:05] <bazhang> Tetracomm, what does uname -m show
[17:05] <Tetracomm> I should have just typed uname --help. :D
[17:06] <Tetracomm> i686.
[17:06] <ares_> hello
[17:07] <Tetracomm> Does i686 definitely mean 64 bit?
[17:07] <quiescens> no
[17:07] <ubunturocks> Hi, I just installed 11LTS on VMWare. Keyring for Synaptic software updates does not recognise password. Can somebody help?
[17:07] <quiescens> i686 is 32bit
[17:07] <IdleOne> Tetracomm: it will be x86_64 if it's 64 bit
[17:07] <ikonia> ubunturocks: there isn't an 11 lts
[17:08] <Tetracomm> IdleOne: So i686 alone actually means 32 bit?
[17:08] <cvd> hello there
[17:08] <IdleOne> Tetracomm: yes
[17:08] <ubunturocks> ikonia, 11.04 Natty Narwhal
[17:08] <ikonia> ubunturocks: it's not lts
[17:08] <ubunturocks> ikonia, ok. Can you help with my problem?
[17:09] <cvd> why my ubuntu 11.04 sometimes logout automatically?
[17:09] <ikonia> ubunturocks: not at this time, I'm leaving
[17:09] <jon_athon> how do I upgrade to a specific kernel version? 2.6.35
[17:09] <Tetracomm> Thank you, IdleOne. Should I switch this one to 64 bit? This is an AMD Athlon II 2.93 GHZ dual core.
[17:09] <IdleOne> Tetracomm: not if you don't want to.
[17:09] <Tetracomm> Does it help performance?
[17:10] <ubunturocks> ikonia, would you mind wasting my time next time? These details didn't help anybody. Cheers
[17:10] <Tetracomm> Idleone
[17:10] <IdleOne> nothing noticeably imo
[17:11] <cvd> is that a bug? automatically logout
[17:11] <cvd> for no apparent reason
[17:12] <cvd> i have to flood to gwt atention here?
[17:12] <klown_> jimjam, every resolution I try i get the error "xrandr:  failed to get size of gamma for output"
[17:12] <klown_> output default*
[17:13] <basilfaulty> I installed meerkat with ati 10.10, but openCL only sees 1 gpu. I ran aticonfig --initial --adapter=all, rebooted and no difference
[17:14] <chinnappan> How to give the linux share folder give the access from MS windows ?
[17:14] <jimjam> klown_: my experiments here aren't working much better lol! Sorry man...hopefully someone else has more experience in this?
[17:14] <chinnappan> How to give the linux share folder give the access from MS windows ? for ads user
[17:15] <jon_athon> when upgrae a linux kernel, should I use the generic, virtual, or generic-pae ?
[17:15] <ares__> Hello
[17:15] <bastidrazor> chinnappan: you could use winSCP and login as your user.
[17:15] <klown_> jimjam, thats what I'm hoping.  I've had the issue before, years ago, but I do not recall how I fixed it.  Thanks for trying though :D
[17:15] <jon_athon> hello ares__
[17:15] <ares__> I have question
[17:15] <jon_athon> !help
[17:15] <ares__> what is the best Linux for servers?
[17:16] <samuel> cent os is quite popualr
[17:16] <chinnappan> How to give the linux share folder give the access from MS windows ? for ads userHow to give the linux share folder give the access from MS windows ? for ads user
[17:16] <llutz> !best | ares__
[17:16] <samuel> also, and this isnt linux but BSD is quite popular too
[17:16] <xangua> ares__: ainceyou are in #ubuntu i'll tell you ubuntu server
[17:16] <oCean> ares__: this channel is for ubuntu support, not general linux discussion
[17:17] <royale1223> how do i prefix a srting to all lines in a file using awk?
[17:17] <samuel> oh yes, and of course ubuntu is pretty good too :
[17:17] <ares__> Which one uses less RAM ?
[17:17] <samuel> :D
[17:17] <jimjam> klown_: good luck dude, sorry couldn't help!
[17:17] <klown_> Can anyone help with resolution issues.  ubuntu 11.04, having issues where I cant see the full task bars.  I am using a 32inch tv as my monitor.  anyone have any ideas?
[17:17] <xangua> ares__: we just told you this is not the place
[17:17] <samuel> klown, try adjusting the tv's settings for visable area
[17:18] <llutz> royale1223:  use sed, sed 's/^/^string/'
[17:18] <samuel> i have had a similar experience with my gf's mac book, it turned out to be a monitor setting on the screen
[17:18] <royale1223> llutz: thanks
[17:18] <samuel> ares i dont know anything about the ram requirements
[17:18] <jon_athon> Okay, so the "show" command for the linux images suggests that I do not install the package directly, but install the meta-package... what the hck is that?
[17:18] <samuel> but i know as my company recently canvassed for a server to host its e-mails
[17:19] <samuel> and most hosting companies provide servers with bsd or centos
[17:19] <jon_athon>  You likely do not want to install this package directly. Instead, install the linux-generic meta-package, which will ensure that upgrades work correctly, and that supporting packages are also installed.
[17:19] <royale1223> llutz: say i want prefix "wget -c" to all lines in "/home/x/x.sh". Whats the sed command?
[17:19] <jon_athon> ????????
[17:20] <klown_> samuel, do not have those settings on my tv.
[17:20] <bazhang> jon_athon, linux-generic-pae
[17:20] <llutz> royale1223:  sed -i 's/^/^wget -c /' /home/x/x.sh       (man sed)
[17:20] <ares__> WHAT IS BETTER Windows or LINUX ?
[17:20] <jon_athon> bazhang, that package says the same thing
[17:20] <oCean> llutz: not the second ^ I think?
[17:21] <royale1223> llutz: thanks man
[17:21] <ikonia> ares__: pesonal choice and offtopic for this channel
[17:21] <bazhang> ares__, stop please
[17:21] <llutz> royale1223:  sed -i 's/^/wget -c /' /home/x/x.sh       (man sed)
[17:21] <chinnappan> How to give the linux share folder give the access from MS windows ? active directory users
[17:21] <llutz> oCean: right, sry
[17:21] <alzamabar> I have just installed Ubuntu 11.04. When launching Synaptic software update, keyring does not accept sudo pwd? Can somebody help?
[17:23] <IdleOne> alzamabar: you are certain you are entering the correct pass?
[17:23] <alzamabar> Well, yes. I tried many times...From command line, sudo <command> works
[17:24] <alzamabar> IdleOne, (sorry, including the name): Well, yes. I tried many times...From command line, sudo <command> works
[17:24] <oCean> alzamabar: what does  gconftool-2 --get /apps/gksu/sudo-mode  output?
[17:25] <alzamabar> oCean...false
[17:25] <oCean> alzamabar: that's it. Set it to true:  gconftool-2 --set --type boolean /apps/gksu/sudo-mode true
[17:25] <Fleck> kype
[17:25] <klown_> I'm having an issue with my screen resolution, resolutions in nvidia-xsettings wont fix it.  Can't see my taskbars at all.  Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[17:26] <alzamabar> oCean, thanks it worked! Why do we need this extra step to enable something that should be enabled automatically?
[17:27] <alzamabar> oCean, is there any installation option that I should have chosen to have this behaviour automatically?
[17:27] <oCean> alzamabar: by default it is true. I find that every now and then someone has to enable it. No clue as to why
[17:27] <oCean> alzamabar: not sure, maybe
[17:27] <rww> oCean: fyi, you can also use gksu-properties to set that. Little bit less terminal-ful
[17:27] <ares__> I have problem with skype.. It very laggy
[17:27] <oCean> rww: ah, but I'm all commandline :)
[17:29] <ares__> Skype program is very laggy. Is there  a way to fix it? :(
[17:30] <barnburner> what is carwhisperer?
[17:30] <bazhang> barnburner, in reference to what?
[17:30] <starZ> any new about how to use themes with natty and GDM2 ??
[17:31] <en1gma> hey all i just picked up a "Rio Carbon" mp3 player from a garage sale for like $1.00 and it is 5GB and plays mp3`s fine and holds charge good.....the problem is it used to use a music service called "playforsure" or something that went out of business i think....anyhow can itunes or something similar work with it
[17:31] <oio> spam
[17:31] <oio> spam
[17:31] <oio> spam
[17:31] <FloodBot1> oio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:31] <oio> spam
[17:31] <oio> spam
[17:31] <en1gma> its for my mom so it has to be easy to use (some kind of subscription service) similar to itunes
[17:31] <djiefo> Hi, is it possible to record youtube audio on mp3?
[17:32] <IdleOne> en1gma: in no way is that Ubuntu related. check the products website
[17:32] <en1gma> there are millions of topics in here un related to ubuntu
[17:32] <en1gma> omg
[17:32] <oioi> spam (!)
[17:32] <oioi> spam (!)
[17:32] <oioi> spam (!)
[17:32] <oioi> spam (!)
[17:32] <oioi> spam (!)
[17:32] <oioi> spam (!)
[17:32] <FloodBot1> oioi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:33] <en1gma> someone just pm me if you know any music service that is compatible with it please
[17:33] <xangua> djiefo: lots of firefox addons to do that
[17:33] <ikonia> en1gma: please stop asking after you've just been told not to ask
[17:33] <Pr070cal> hi trying to use rootstock to build a ubuntu.img but not sure how to include gnome frontend
[17:33] <djiefo> xangua,  ok thx didnt know
[17:33] <en1gma> yea im not asking any more now please stop being a nazi
[17:34] <jon_athon> which release runs kernel version 2.6.35?
[17:34] <quiescens> none
[17:34] <ikonia> jon_athon: you should only use that kernel in the version it was meant for
[17:34] <rww> jon_athon: maverick
[17:34] <jon_athon> how do I upgrade from lucid to maerick?
[17:34] <rww> !upgrade
[17:35] <jon_athon> gracias
[17:37] <royale1223> llutz: how do i append " after every line using sed?
[17:38] <Renski> is there anyway of changing the number of workspaces used in unity?
[17:38] <llutz> royale1223: 's/$/"/'
[17:38] <cavittt> hi
[17:38] <init[1]> i'm trying to user iptables -m owner feature to have application level firewall, ie to allow only apps that i have whitelisted. The notion i have im my mind is to run the program with EGID as 'netpriv'. well seems like its PITA. since as 'me' as the user have EGID as 'users' it wont work. Have you got any suggestions ?
[17:39] <jon_athon> Hmmm, it gives a gui instruction... any insight into command line upgrading?
[17:39] <rww> jon_athon: that page also has command-line upgrade instructions under "Ubuntu Server"
[17:39] <rww> jon_athon: they're the same as for Ubuntu with no GUI
[17:40] <jon_athon> gotcha
[17:40] <jon_athon> thanks
[17:40] <klown_> I'm having an issue with my screen resolution, resolutions in nvidia-xsettings wont fix it.  Can't see my taskbars at all.  Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[17:43] <llutz> RobinJ: http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt
[17:43] <IdleOne> llutz: they pinged out
[17:44] <llutz> damn keyboard, enter comes toooo fast :(
[17:44] <omichalek> hi all, I just installed Ubuntu on my other machine but I cannot login, no matter what session I choose! any help?
[17:44] <k-rad> how well does natty run on a p4 3.2 ht with 2gb ram, 4gb swap, and sata hard drive ?
[17:44] <RobinJ> llutz: what?
[17:44] <llutz> RobinJ: sorry wasnt for you
[17:44] <RobinJ> k
[17:44] <omichalek> I tried deleting ~/.config folder
[17:45] <royale1223> llutz: How do i add a string to the end of every line in a file using sed?
[17:45] <IdleOne> royale1223: http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt
[17:45] <llutz> royale1223: : http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt         exactly the same, like adding "
[17:46] <djiefo> Hi, have any chance to get help by someone used with download helper pluggin?
[17:46] <royale1223> llutz: I dont understand.
[17:46] <k-rad> has natty improved a good bit since its release because when i deserted it the only good thing i took about it was speed.  i had issues accessing network-manager-gnome
[17:46] <llutz> royale1223: 's/$/string to add/'
[17:47] <kay_> hi, I just installed ubuntu but it won't recognize my wireless
[17:47] <edbian> kay_: What card do you have?
[17:47] <kay_> ummm...
[17:48] <royale1223> llutz: okay
[17:48] <edbian> kay_: Do you know how to pastebin?
[17:48] <onesadwolf> Добрый день. Я бы хотел задать вопрос , как можно открыть порты в файле "/lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko" ? просто команда "sudo nano" когда открывет не воспринимается кодировка
[17:48] <kay_> no, sorry.
[17:49] <rww> !ru | onesadwolf
[17:49] <edbian> kay_: That's ok.  paste.ubuntu.com   You go there copy / paste text into it, hit submit, then give me the link so I can see it.  Get it?
[17:49] <djiefo> Hi, have any chance to get help by someone used with download helper pluggin?
[17:49] <savid> Will I notice that much of a difference if I choose to install the amd64 version as opposed to the i386 version?  I've heard I can get a lot of bugs with 64 (ie, w/ flash or other proprietary software).
[17:50] <savid> I have a Core 2 Duo laptop.
[17:50] <kay_> I have a dell m1330... Dell Wireless 1490 Dual-Band WLAN MiniCard?
[17:50] <rww> savid: I use 64-bit Kubuntu and have never noticed any difference.
[17:50] <edbian> kay_: That's a start. I need you to pastebin the output of a command.  Can you do that?
[17:50] <kay_> ... I can paste bin
[17:50] <kay_> ok
[17:51] <edbian> kay_: Yeah.  the command:  sudo lspci -k    put the output in pastebin (it will be long)
[17:51] <kay_> ok
[17:51] <jon_athon> my update manager is bugging out
[17:52] <klown_> hm, i find it hard to believe that every install of ubuntu, for everyone else has perfect screen resolutions.
[17:53] <kay_> i pasted it into paste bin, not sure what to do know
[17:53] <edbian> kay_: Hit submit, give me the link it goes to  (it's now different than paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:53] <Defusal> hi everyone, does anyone know of a cross platform software based KVM switch, which i can use like VNC or NX, but that relays what the host machines graphics card would have rendered to a client machine, preferably something optimized for use over a 1Gbps ethernet connection? I need to be able to use my ubuntu machine in any way needed without any restrictions that a remote session such as VNC
[17:53] <Defusal> or NX, which are optimized for very little bandwidth, would have...
[17:53] <bittyx-laptop> i have a 2GB SD card i want to format. i can see that it's currently formatted as FAT16. would you recommend reformatting to the same file system, or maybe FAT32 or NTFS? i'm not sure whether formatting to a different file system would stop it from working in, say, a digital camera or something (and i realize this has more to do with the actual cameras, but i just assume that someone here might have good advice to share). thanks in advance!
[17:53] <iocor> in 11.04 is it possible to change what's in the tray?
[17:53] <kay_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/619277/
[17:53] <edbian> kay_: That's it.  reading...
[17:53] <jon_athon> for a distribution upgrade, the manager will go throgh "Preparing" and randomly close out
[17:54] <LekeFly> How do i restart X ?
[17:54] <omichalek> could anybody help, pls.? on another machine I just installed natty but no matter what I choose in GDM it just gets stuck showing wallpaper and mouse cursor :(
[17:54] <edbian> kay_: You have a BCM4311 chipset.  It's the last thing in that pastebin.  Do you see it?
[17:55] <kay_> yeah
[17:55] <chinnappan> How to give the linux share folder give the access from MS windows ? active directory users
[17:55] <edbian> kay_: I am very confident I can get wireless working with this chipset.  Are you online using the wired interface?
[17:55] <kay_> yeah
[17:55] <klown_> I'm having an issue with my screen resolution, resolutions in nvidia-xsettings wont fix it.  Can't see my taskbars at all.  Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[17:56] <edbian> kay_: run this command.  sudo apt-get install firwmare-b43-installer    It installs software that runs on the actual wifi card.
[17:56] <blargg> I mirrored my root (/) partition from sda2 to sda4, and changed the UUID of sda4 and ran update-grub. When I boot, it lists the linux kernels on sda4, but when I select one of them, it mounts sda2 as root and completely ignores sda4. I've edited /etc/fstab on sda2 and sda4 to have the UUID of sda4's volume, but it still mounts sda2 at root regardless. Is there something else that specifies what to mount at / ?
[17:56] <edbian> kay_: It is proprietary software so Ubuntu does not like to distribute it with Ubuntu.  They do provide an easy way (this command) to install it.
[17:56] <TaZeR> hi guys
[17:56] <TaZeR> ubuntun 11.10 sucks
[17:57] <edbian> TaZeR: It isn't finished yet.
[17:57] <linux_hacks> TaZeR: What's next ?
[17:57] <TaZeR> xubuntu is the o9nly good distro
[17:57] <TaZeR> the unity is much better
[17:57] <TaZeR> and not so ingraved
[17:57] <TaZeR> as the mainstreadm ubuntu
[17:57] <kay_> ok, seems to have worked... should I disconnect the wired to see or is there another way?
[17:57] <TaZeR> Xubuntu owns now
[17:57] <IdleOne> !ot | TaZeR
[17:57] <omichalek> chinnappan I don't know what active directory is exactly, but there is a package with "samba" in its name which is for sharing folders with windows
[17:57] <TaZeR> shaddap ya smut cock suckin son of a bitch
[17:58] <TaZeR> im always right
[17:58] <IdleOne> k
[17:58] <edbian> kay_: You don't have to disconnect wireless.  It isn't working yet.  We have to turn on the module (modules are drivers in linux)  sudo modprobe b43
[17:58] <edbian> kay_: You have a BCM43xx so we use the b43 module
[17:59] <chinnappan> windows ads
[17:59] <kay_> when I typed it in nothing happened
[17:59] <LekeFly> How do i restart X ?
[17:59] <edbian> kay_: In unix (and linux) 'no news is good news'  That means there were no errors.
[17:59] <kay_> ok... I'm so used to windows
[17:59] <edbian> kay_: Look in the applet in the panel and see if wireless networks are listed.  If not we need to do one more thing.
[17:59] <edbian> kay_: You're doing fine :)
[18:00] <edbian> kay_: If you are confused about what I'm talking about ask more questions and I will explain.
[18:00] <kay_> i'm not sure what the applet panel is, but I see wireless networks when I click on the wifi symbol at the top right
[18:00] <edbian> kay_: That icon is the applet.  The bar it is in in the top right is the panel.  The card is now working.
[18:00] <edbian> kay_: Click a network and connect to it.
[18:01] <trijntje> how can I enable three click emulation in natty (and why is it no longer default)?
[18:01] <kay_> connection established
[18:01] <edbian> kay_: fixed
[18:01] <kay_> thanks sooooo much
[18:01] <edbian> kay_: hahaha I'm good.
[18:01] <edbian> dont' wanna brag but I'm kind of a big deal
[18:01] <IdleOne> hehe
[18:01] <ir4> ubuntu r0x
[18:01] <IdleOne> !cookie > edbian
[18:01] <edbian> :P
[18:02] <edbian> thanks
[18:02] <kay_> thanks edbian... bye
[18:02] <edbian> kay_: cya
[18:02] <klown_> I'm having an issue with my screen resolution, resolutions in nvidia-xsettings wont fix it.  Can't see my taskbars at all.  Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[18:03] <barnburner> is it hard to hack into say...  a porn site?
[18:04] <ir4> Nephyrin: kvIRC r0x
[18:04] <edbian> hahahahahaha
[18:04] <edbian> what a great question
[18:04] <perlsyntax> lol
[18:04] <blargg> Oh yes, very very hard, you shouldn't even bother
[18:04] <edbian> barnburner: I think the security varies from site to site.  I don't see why a pron site would be less secure.  I am sure there are secure ones.
[18:04] <nlko> heh
[18:04] <llutz> barnburner: you want your money back?
[18:05] <klown_> why are we answering porn/hacking questions?
[18:05] <edbian> IDK  for fun
[18:05] <IdleOne> klown_: good question
[18:05] <klown_> offtopic=
[18:05] <IdleOne> lets move on, we don't provide support for potentially illegal activities here
[18:05] <edbian> klown_: Have you looked at this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[18:05] <edbian> klown_: It seems rather extensive.
[18:06] <trijntje> lets talk about third button emulation in natty then, how do I turn it on ;)
[18:06] <klown_> edbian, yes, but every time I try to set the resolution in xrandr I get an error
[18:06] <edbian> klown_: What error?
[18:06] <klown_> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[18:06] <klown_> sorry, was copying it as you were asking.
[18:08] <edbian> klown_: Can you pastebin xrandr  for me?
[18:08] <TheMatrix3000> how do I change the boot spash?
[18:09] <klown_> edbian, http://pastebin.com/b0tYBaZP
[18:09] <edbian> klown_: What res do you have?  What are you looking for?
[18:10] <linux> test
[18:10] <thevishy> how do I open terminal in my nautilus location ?
[18:10] <klown_> well, I'm using a 32in tv as my monitor.  I'm not exactly sure its a "resolution" problem.
[18:10] <linux> test
[18:10] <klown_> the current resolution is fine..but the screen isnt fitting on the tv.
[18:10] <edbian> klown_: What is the issue?
[18:10] <quiescens> aspect ratio?
[18:10] <edbian> klown_: The panels are cut off?
[18:10] <osse> thevishy, there is a package you can install called nautilus-open-terminal. After that is installed you can right click and then choose "Open in terminal"
[18:11] <klown_> I cannot see my task bars at all.
[18:11] <thevishy> thanks osse
[18:11] <thevishy> thats what I want
[18:11] <Cpt> Could anyone explain how to install java?
[18:11] <starZ> hi all, any new about how to use themes with natty and GDM2 ??
[18:11] <edbian> klown_: Yeah aspect ration on the TV
[18:11] <edbian> ratio*
[18:11] <IdleOne> !java | Cpt
[18:11] <klown_> changing the aspect ratio on the tv doesnt change anything.
[18:11] <klown_> I've tried. :/
[18:12] <Cpt> Thank you
[18:12] <iocor> I like unity
[18:12] <edbian> klown_: Try giving the TV a different resolution and then change the ratio.  What resolution does the TV support?
[18:12] <iocor> but I want to put the launcher bar to the bottom
[18:12] <iocor> how do I do this
[18:12] <klown_> edbian, I'm not exactly sure what it supports.
[18:12] <IdleOne> iocor: you can't, in the next release you will be able to
[18:12] <omichalek> TheMatrix3000 it is something like:  sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[18:12] <iocor> ok
[18:12] <edbian> klown_: Is it 720p 1080p?
[18:12] <klown_> 1080p
[18:12] <edbian> klown_: That can give you a general idea.
[18:13] <omichalek> TheMatrix3000 but google it first, there is also one more entry that is for the text splash
[18:13] <nit-wit> TheMatrix3000, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1739412
[18:13] <edbian> klown_: 1080p is 1920 x 1080   TV's are actually much lower resolution that monitors in general
[18:13] <FreedomThroughLi> test
[18:14] <edbian> klown_: Look up the TV's manual to see exactly what resolutions are supported.  I suggest just trying some though.  Can you change resolution in the gui ?
[18:14] <guest1> got it
[18:14] <guest1> i cant get the launcher to open
[18:14] <starZ> thx!
[18:14] <klown_> edbian, I can change the one in nvidia-xconfig but it doesnt help.
[18:14] <edbian> klown_: To be absolutely clear this isn't strictly an Ubuntu issue.  The OS is working fine.
[18:15] <edbian> klown_: What resolutions have you tried?
[18:15] <guest1> i need help!!!
[18:15] <edbian> guest1: with what dog
[18:15] <rShetty> Hey , I Updated latest Ubuntu version and restarted and everything was gone from folders to task bar ... what may be the problem ?
[18:15] <guest1> launcher
[18:15] <guest1> i cant open it
[18:15] <klown_> 1280, 1920x1080 does the same as well.
[18:16] <Cpt> Also, sudo apt-get update gives me the error message "The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htt could not be found". Any clues?
[18:16] <omichalek> guest1 do you mean the Alt+F2 command?
[18:16] <guest1> ill try...
[18:16] <edbian> klown_: Mmmm, I am thinking that the TV settings need to be changed.  Typically if all the pixels are not being shown it is an issue with the monitor not the OS
[18:16] <omichalek> guest1 or in Natty you just press the "super" (windows) key
[18:16] <guest1> no i mean left taskbar thingy
[18:17] <klown_> its an issue in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  ive had this issue before, but the person who helped filled out the xorg.conf for me (this was my first day on linux, years ago) and I dont recall what they did exactly.
[18:17] <omichalek> guest1 that's Unity's panel, hit the upper left corner or push for a while against left edge
[18:17] <klown_> but it was something with the DPI if im not mistaken.
[18:17] <guest1> super key doesnt work
[18:17] <edbian> klown_: pastebin it.  What changed that it doesn't work now?
[18:18] <Cpt> Again, sudo apt-get update gives me the error message "The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htt could not be found". Any clues?
[18:18] <klown_> edbian, I just installed linux today.  11.04
[18:18] <guest1> omichalek: it doesnt wrk
[18:18] <quiescens> cpt: probably a type in your sources.list or something
[18:19] <quiescens> typo*
[18:19] <edbian> klown_: Mhmmm, ok yeah lemme see your xorg.conf please.  In a pastebin.  It is likely that we don't need it at all but we'll try that after I get a look see
[18:19] <kavurt> my computer cannot see memory stick. can i do something about it?
[18:19] <omichalek> guest1 that is strange, isn't there a program running that is blocking your input maybe? try Super+W or Super+S
[18:19] <klown_> edbian, http://pastebin.com/LHQdqNzs
[18:20] <edbian> klown_: reading...
[18:20] <Cpt> quiescens ; Oh silly me, forgot the P in 'http' lol.
[18:21] <omichalek> kavurt not at all? try opening "Disk utility" just to see whether Ubuntu sees it
[18:21] <pozic> Does Ubuntu recognize LVMs of a Fedora installation?
[18:21] <guest1> ySOS im not getting any help here...
[18:21] <quiescens> Cpt: that's roughly what i was getting at, yes
[18:21] <pozic> So, I can do an upgrade which will basically wipe the root partition and keep my Fedora home?
[18:21] <edbian> klown_: let's try temporarily removing the file.  sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/backup.Xorg.conf
[18:21] <edbian> klown_: And restart the machine and see what happens.
[18:22] <kavurt> omichalek: what's disk utility? partition manager?
[18:22] <guest1> quit:
[18:22] <klown_> k, brb
[18:23] <omichalek> kavurt I guess that should work too
[18:23] <kavurt> omichalek: no, it can't see either
[18:24] <omichalek> kavurt sorry, I can't think of anything else :(
[18:25] <ShermanBoyd> can someone tell me the kernel option that get's passed by the installer to start the UEC install?
[18:25] <bluenemo> hi guys. my logfiles say: pulseaudio[1465]: ratelimit.c: events suppressed and my system crashes after some time. the last logs before the crash are always pulse.. do you know a solution? i only find bug reports on that one
[18:25] <bluenemo> lspci 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[18:25] <klown> edbian, same.
[18:26] <gohdan> i removed then added a set of users via the users-admin tool. ever since then, when i launch a terminal it prints '''To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>". See "man sudo_root" for details.'''  this is from an unrelated account to the one i created
[18:26] <klown> edbian, also, I made a mistake, its 720p
[18:26] <edbian> klown: I don't now.  Here is how to move the file back: sudo mv /etc/X11/backup.Xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:26] <edbian> klown: Mmm, I don't know how to fix this problem :(
[18:26] <klown> edbian, well thanks for trying :)
[18:26] <codeshah> hey guys, I am trying to setup a mailserver but on a domain [mailserver.domain.com] - anyone have experience setting up DKIM for a subdomain?
[18:26] <edbian> klowsure
[18:26] <gohdan> how can i make this annoying output go away??
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> gohdan: that is called 'security'
[18:28] <quiescens> gohdan: the message will show up on any account that is in the admin group until they have successfully used sudo at least once
[18:29] <gohdan> MonkeyDust: except im NOT trying to run any privileged commands and merely launching a term??
[18:29] <gohdan> karma +1 quiescens
[18:30] <omichalek> kavurt maybe try in terminal:  dmesg | grep memorystick
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> gohdan: maybe you created something as root, so now you have to be root to have acces
[18:30] <omichalek> kavurt just to see the history of what Ubuntu saw with "memorystick" in it
[18:30] <quiescens> gohdan: technically if you want to short circuit that, you can "touch $HOME/.sudo_as_admin_successful" or edit /etc/bash.bashrc to remove it entirely
[18:31] <omichalek> kavurt or it might be named dirrerently, replace "memorystick" with "memory" maybe
[18:31] <AlphaAtom> Hey, I've just upgraded to Natty Narwhal
[18:32] <AlphaAtom> And I'm getting some internet connection problems
[18:32] <AlphaAtom> It just keeps disconnecting me
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> AlphaAtom: please put your question in one line :)
[18:32] <kavurt>  omichalek: it doesn't help either
[18:32] <omichalek> kavurt but does it show anything?
[18:33] <AlphaAtom> I've just upgraded and it keeps disconnecting me, the connect box appears, complete with my security password, why won't it automatically reconnect, or stop disconnecting me in the first place
[18:33] <kavurt> omichalek: no, nothing about memory stick
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> AlphaAtom: can you connect with cable?
[18:34] <AlphaAtom> I haven't got one with me
[18:34] <AlphaAtom> Or anywhere in this house for that matter
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> AlphaAtom: first try the easy,normal way
[18:34] <AlphaAtom> But that would just be totally impractical - for a laptop.
[18:34] <AlphaAtom> So I didn't feel the need to even buy a cable
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> i'm working on a laptop, wired connection
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> AlphaAtom: cable = easiest, fastes, most secure
[18:35] <AlphaAtom> Yeah I know that
[18:36] <gohdan> quiescens:  glad thats sorted out, thing was driving me nuts. i owe you a beer
[18:36] <AlphaAtom> But given the position of our router - bear in mind this is basically the only place we can put it without paying for more sockets, or having ugly cables everywhere - I wouldn't be able to use a wired connection
[18:36] <omichalek> kavurt I'm sorry, I am no pro, hopefully someone else here will know
[18:37] <Rollin> my ubuntu 11.04 install has bricked itself 2x now from the lattest software updates via update manager
[18:37] <Rollin> i can boot into low gfx mode via recovery, but normal login will not work. black screen. any ideas?
[18:37] <thunder1212> how can i upgrade to gnome 3
[18:37] <weside> I had nothing but trouble with 11.04 i fixed it by going back to 10.10 ;)
[18:37] <thunder1212> ??
[18:37] <edbian> Rollin: nomodeset on the kernel line
[18:38] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to re-claim some disk space, and I noticed that even though I empty my Trash,  the items are still kept in a folder called "expunged".  Is it safe to just delete that folder permanently?
[18:38] <ries> hello gents, how do I add a new locale under ubuntu? install-language-pack didn't work
[18:38] <gohdan> Rollin: i believe that is a new "feature" of natty.
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> !details| ries
[18:39] <ries> MonkeyDust: I think it's pretty simple, I need to add a new locale
[18:39] <nit-wit> thunder1212, use at your own risk, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-common-gnome-3-issues-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty.html
[18:39] <Rollin> i like 11.04. but if the update is going to keep breaking my install idk
[18:39] <omichalek> could anybody help me? I just installed Ubuntu on my other machine but I cannot login, no matter what session I choose I end up with wallpaper and mouse cursor only
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> ries: explain what you mean by 'locale', where, in which application etc
[18:39] <Rollin> i will try that nomodeset @ edbian .. anything else i should try? thanks
[18:40] <[1]user1> how do i assign a dns name to a ip
[18:40] <edbian> Rollin: Not off the top of my head
[18:40] <ries> MonkeyDust: that has nothing todo with a application, when I run locale, I don't see the locale I need, so I need to add it
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> ries: but what is a 'locale'?
[18:40] <gohdan> MonkeyDust: it is pretty clear what they are referring to. please refrain from offering assistance if you have no idea what people are talking about
[18:41] <nit-wit> thunder1212, you might consider fedora 15 if you like gnome3
[18:41] <ries> gohdan: thanks you...
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> gohdan: it is for future reference
[18:41] <weside> omichalek I had that same problem where I could not login :/
[18:41] <omichalek> I already tried "apt-get purge unity compiz" and reinstalling them, removing ~/.config, installing the proprietary nvidia-current but to no help...
[18:41] <thunder1212> i have just downloaded fedora 15
[18:42] <gohdan> ries: np. i was a bit irked from the "security" comment
[18:42] <omichalek> should I just try installing kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop etc.?
[18:42] <thunder1212>  but i am comfortable with apt and ubuntu
[18:42] <omichalek> weside did you solve it?
[18:42] <[1]user1> no one??
[18:43] <gohdan> MonkeyDust: locale refers to the language and regional settings such as fonts or translations etc
[18:44] <sleiv23> hello
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> gohdan: thank you, we're here to learn :)
[18:44] <edwardthefma> hello al
[18:44] <edwardthefma> all
[18:44] <weside> omichalek I had this issue in 11.04 when i did the upgrade install rather than a clean install, I could not fix it, I just ended up putting 10.10 back on.
[18:45] <edwardthefma> i need help enabling my wireless card
[18:45] <weside> I am kinda a linux n00b anyway.
[18:45] <edbian> edwardthefma: What card do you have?
[18:45] <edwardthefma> i think it is brodcom
[18:45] <edwardthefma> but im not for shure
[18:46] <edwardthefma> its a gatway lap top
[18:46] <omichalek> weside :/ this is a new install (with previous home partition)
[18:46] <F3ar> Everyone that's having problems with 11.04, did you upgrade or do a clean instal?
[18:46] <F3ar> install*
[18:46] <ZykoticK9> edwardthefma, from a terminal "lspci | grep -i net" might tell you
[18:46] <Rollin> upgrade, clean, now on another clean with blk login screen. trying the nomodeset fix. sigh
[18:46] <ries> MonkeyDust: I am a long time IRC user... and to point people directly to some bot is rude if you don't know what the essence of teh question is.
[18:46] <edbian> edwardthefma: can you pastebin sudo lspci -k for me?
[18:47] <ikonia> ries: it's a pretty reasonable thing to do to get your to explain a bit more
[18:47] <edbian> edwardthefma: I seem to have good luck with these cards
[18:48] <__yhvh__> hey in additional drivers, which is the most up to date driver http://i.imgur.com/B5YBV.png
[18:48] <Foran> hello
[18:49] <Rollin> link to nomodeset for anyone else in need: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[18:49] <Foran> where can I get help? :) i am total noob :D
[18:49] <edbian> Foran: You're here.  Ask away
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[18:49] <Rollin> foran ask your question, we will direct you
[18:49] <edbian> edwardthefma: holding...
[18:49] <ries> ikonia: if the question wasn't clear... but in this case the person didn't knew what a locale was/is and teh question by itself was clear 'How to add additional locales'
[18:49] <Foran> ok
[18:49] <Foran> I'm trying to instal ubuntu 11.04 from USB
[18:49] <Foran> and
[18:50] <Foran> when I boot from USB I gat some many
[18:50] <Foran> menu*
[18:50] <Foran> i can chose 5-6 options but just one works
[18:50] <ikonia> ries: to the system, the desktop, an application ?
[18:50] <Foran> (rescue system)
[18:50] <oCean> Foran: try to describe your issue in one single line
[18:50] <ikonia> ries: as in isntall them or configure the OS to use them (application/etc)
[18:50] <gohdan> MonkeyDust: fairy snuff. however,  it is advised to refrain from offering assistance in an area you are no versed in or have no experience whatsoever. as it decreases the credibility of future statements you make in that regard
[18:51] <ries> ikonia:
[18:51] <KM0201> Foran: stop hitting enter so much.. are you sure you're giving it lon enough to actually boot... it takes a minute or so (for me) after choosing the first option, for it to boot... if you select the first option (try ubuntu)... can you still use the arrow keys to highlight other menu options?.. if not, just wait, it's booting
[18:51] <Foran> So i installed it using that option "rescue system". installation was ok. and now i have Boot menu (Ubuntu and Windows 7)
[18:51] <ries> ikonia: I don't want to debate it but when people say 'How to add locale' it usually mean to the operating system.
[18:52] <KM0201> lol
[18:52] <PIn> guys type in "sudo shutdown -h 0" in console for a special message of ubuntu owner
[18:52] <ikonia> ries: no, I'm actually asking you what you want
[18:52] <Foran> When I chose Ubuntu, Black Screen is shown,
[18:52] <Foran> and nothing happens
[18:53] <ikonia> !locale | ries
[18:53] <ries> ikonia: I needed to add a additional locale, I know how to use them and apply them to applications
[18:53] <KM0201> PIn: thats not necessary
[18:53] <ikonia> ries: the link ubottu just gave you should help
[18:53] <Foran> It seems like some graphic problem, becouse i have some pink line on a midle that disapear in 5-6 seconds
[18:53] <ralc> hey guys - can i somehow see who made the last change to a file? or is that information not stored at all?
[18:53] <ries> ikonia: thanks....
[18:53] <oCean> PIn: do you have a question?
[18:53] <PIn> !question
[18:53] <ikonia> ralc: not stored unless it's a new file
[18:54]  * gohdan <3
[18:54] <ralc> ikonia, okay, thanks
[18:55] <Foran> How to delete Ubuntu (instaled) and reinstall it again?
[18:55] <nelson___> list
[18:55] <KM0201> Foran: its easier to just "install over" it...
[18:55] <ikonia> Foran: boot from CD and just re-install it
[18:55] <rinkukokiri> anyone else having problems viewing pictures on facebook?
[18:55] <Foran> I use USB install, and when I chose Install in menu, menu just refresh and nothing hapens
[18:56] <__yhvh__> what I've noticed is that people are more likely to respond if you ask to ask
[18:56] <maxx_> help needed:: I am getting very low volume in #ubuntu 11.04 .. any suggestions?
[18:56] <rinkukokiri> it's like ubuntu's firefox doesn't even wanna load em
[18:56] <ikonia> rinkukokiri:it's a facebook issue
[18:56] <KM0201> Foran: you have to give it a minute to load, it doesn't load instantly
[18:56] <Snooz> anybdy got shell plz..
[18:56] <winterdj> I'm having trouble getting ufw to enable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/619313/
[18:56] <ikonia> Snooz: please don't ask for that sort of thing here
[18:56] <Foran> I'll try it
[18:56] <weside> I noticed firefox 4 sometimes has issues on f b
[18:56] <maxx_> help needed:: I am getting very low volume in #ubuntu 11.04 .. any suggestions?
[18:57] <ralc> __yhvh__, i've heard that if you ask to ask to ask you get triple the responses
[18:57] <weside> but that is OT
[18:57] <ikonia> weside: facebook in general is having a problem, it's not linux/windows/firefox/anything
[18:57] <edbian> maxx_: alsamixer    turn up various sliders, see what happens
[18:57]  * __yhvh__ :P
[18:57] <weside> I agree ikonia
[18:57] <ikonia> ralc: please don't be silly
[18:57] <Yud_Zroc> Fb is always having issues
[18:58] <maxx_> tried alsamixer. all bars high. still not of much use :(
[18:58] <tomykontroll> Hello, I have problems with my Ubuntu
[18:58] <edbian> maxx_: Mmmm, the speaker's volume?
[18:58] <rinkukokiri> ikonia, didn't know there was a 'no silly' rule her
[18:58] <rinkukokiri> *e
[18:58] <tomykontroll> Can someone helpme?
[18:58] <maxx_> full
[18:58] <EmuAlert> Would the most straightforward way to copy preferences be to copy over all the dotfiles in ~ and restart?
[18:58] <maxx_> more that 100%
[18:58] <ikonia> tomykontroll: just explain your problem and people will try
[18:58] <edbian> maxx_: I'm not sure. If the sliders are all up. Do you have a PCM slider?  That is usually a tricky one.
[18:59] <maxx_> yeah. I have a PCM slider
[18:59] <maxx_> it is also full
[18:59] <savid> I've got 100GB that I need to transfer to another computer.   What's the fastest method of transferring files over 100mbit ethernet?    I'm looking for lowest overhead.
[18:59] <Yud_Zroc> Are both speakers working or just 1?
[18:59] <maxx_> both
[18:59] <tomykontroll> I have installed sucefully Ubuntu 11, used It, But before an update it dont boot anymore, After Grub I have the BusyBox
[18:59] <edbian> maxx_: IDK
[18:59] <edbian> maxx_: sorry! :(
[19:00] <Yud_Zroc> Tomy at login, swich your default desktop
[19:00] <syockit> EmuAlert: if you're sure that all progs are of the same version, then pretty much yes. But if you do it one by one, you get to prune off unneeded config files
[19:00] <ravage> savid: rsync, but rsync does not have any security. usually not that important in LAN
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[19:00] <maxx_> edbian: np. thanks anyways :)
[19:00] <savid> ravage: cool, thanks.
[19:00] <Yud_Zroc> (Where you click username/password) its at the bottom center
[19:01] <weside> is some people in here still using 10.04 or 10.10 rather than using 11.04, just curious?..
[19:01] <KM0201> !b43
[19:01] <KM0201> !broadcom
[19:01] <EmuAlert> syockit: Alright thanks
[19:01] <tomykontroll> Thanks Yud, th problems is that Grub not find the kernel, I have a message of missing sda
[19:01] <tomykontroll> But when I boot in Windows this device works
[19:01] <rww> !b43 is <alias> bcm43xx
[19:02] <tomykontroll> How I can respore/repair Grub from Windows?
[19:02] <ikonia> tomykontroll: you can't touch grub from windows
[19:02] <rinkukokiri> tomykontroll, you can use your live cd
[19:03] <cgroza> tomykontrol, you must use a live cd, I recommend puppy
[19:03] <KM0201> rww: :) i make that mistake all the time..lol
[19:03] <tomykontroll> I havent Live CD, I installed using WUBI
[19:03] <ikonia> tomykontroll: ignore what cgroza has just said
[19:03] <ikonia> tomykontroll: using a different distro to fix grub is a very bad idea and will most often end if failure
[19:03] <cgroza> ikonia, he has wubi anyway
[19:03] <nit-wit> tomykontroll, do you see the grub menu at powering on or the MS boot screen?
[19:03] <ikonia> so I see
[19:04] <tomykontroll> Thanks Ikonia
[19:04] <Yud_Zroc> Can't he just do thbe grub update command? He should be using grub2 no?
[19:04] <nit-wit> no
[19:04] <tomykontroll> I see the Windows slector for booting, before Grub
[19:04] <Yud_Zroc> Oh, forgot about wubi...lol outs my legue I only use grub
[19:04] <gantrixx> So if I wanted to buy a netbook and run Ubuntu 11.04 (with Unity) on it, what would you recommend?  Is there a graphics chipset that "just works" with Unity?
[19:05] <__yhvh__> gantrixx: intel
[19:05] <weside> no way nvidia
[19:05] <cgroza> gantrixx, get an NVidia.
[19:05] <Yud_Zroc> Well, grantrix get the netbook remix version
[19:05] <ravage> gantrixx: in general just don't use any ATI. Intel and NVIDIA work most of the time
[19:05] <gantrixx> __yhvh__, my old Dell mini 10 had the Intel chipset on it and I was never able to get it to work
[19:05] <weside> ATI hates linux LOL
[19:05] <sebastian> huhu
[19:05] <Yud_Zroc> Intel, and nvidia (nvidia has better performance 9/10 times
[19:05] <gantrixx> I do use the notebook remix version
[19:05] <sebastian> exit
[19:06] <Yud_Zroc> Weside, not entirly, you just need to fish out the right driver
[19:06] <ravage> weside: no but they just can't write good drivers for it
[19:06] <heffay> my ubuntu 11.04 suddenly stopped wanting to connect to a shared directory on my network. the error messages said it failed to get the share list from the server.
[19:06] <__yhvh__> gantrixx: well I have nvidia and can't run unity
[19:06] <Sanctusorium> Hey ya.  I am running a fresh Server 10.10 install.  How do I upgrade to 11 through console?
[19:06] <nit-wit> tomykontroll, look in this thread and post the bootscript as suggested in the thread if you can't fix it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639198
[19:06] <gantrixx> It seems that Ubuntu is leading the hardware
[19:06] <ravage> __yhvh__: the closed source driver should work for really every nvidia card
[19:07] <gantrixx> and that is probably why Dell stopped selling netbooks with Ubuntu NBR pre-installed
[19:07] <tomykontroll> Ok ... Thanks Nit-Wit
[19:07] <Sanctusorium> I did apt-get dist-upgrade, but lsb_release -a says I am still running 10.1
[19:07] <nit-wit> tomykontroll, no problem it is probably an easy fix.
[19:07] <__yhvh__> ravage: not here, dual head tho
[19:07] <rinkukokiri> i got dual heads and unity hates it
[19:07] <rinkukokiri> actually.. .i hate unity :D
[19:07] <Yud_Zroc> I still stick with gnome
[19:07] <weside> I have an Intel video chipset, so far with every linux distro i tried it works just fine, i just know nVidia cards works better for games etc.
[19:08] <gantrixx> I'm running 11.04 on my desktop and I opted to go back to straight gnome
[19:08] <ravage> rinkukokiri: you are not alone ;)
[19:08] <gantrixx> I think there isn't a one size fits all solution
[19:08] <gantrixx> desktops are desktops, tablets are tablets
[19:08] <oCean> let's get back on topic ok?
[19:08] <gantrixx> the topic of Ubuntu?
[19:08] <Yud_Zroc> Cyonical is just doing what it has to, to adapt
[19:08] <heffay> samba? anyone?
[19:08] <oCean> gantrixx: support, not discussion
[19:09] <nit-wit> this is not a  ubuntu chat
[19:09] <__yhvh__> oCean: so can you answer my driver Q?
[19:09] <gantrixx> oh, I thought this is where I come to ask questions
[19:09] <rinkukokiri> ok.. how do I uninstall unity completely, i don't want it
[19:09] <Yud_Zroc> Sorry
[19:09] <oCean> __yhvh__: nope, maybe someone else
[19:09] <piaoliu> hello
[19:09] <nit-wit> gantrixx, sure but mindless fud is not appreciatted.
[19:09] <Yud_Zroc> Yhvh what's your q?
[19:09] <oCean> gantrixx: use #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussion
[19:09] <__yhvh__> hey in additional drivers, which is the most up to date driver http://i.imgur.com/B5YBV.png
[19:10] <piaoliu> 605796974
[19:10] <Yud_Zroc> The one that's recomended
[19:10] <rinkukokiri> __yhvh__, version current
[19:10] <oCean> piaoliu: do you have a support question?
[19:10] <__yhvh__> cheers, is that documented anywhere?
[19:10] <Yud_Zroc> 173 is like a year + old
[19:10] <ravage> __yhvh__: i think they are the same. current is just the mete package
[19:10] <oCean> !who | Yud_Zroc
[19:11] <rinkukokiri> ravage, actually.   173 is 173, version current is like 185 or something
[19:11] <Yud_Zroc> Ocean I cant
[19:11] <oCean> Yud_Zroc: yes you can, don't be silly
[19:11] <ravage> rinkukokiri: right. checked that in apt
[19:11] <Yud_Zroc> I'm on my cellphone
[19:11] <ravage> i think 173 is for the older legacy cards
[19:11] <ravage> they dropped support for the really old ones
[19:11] <ravage> in 18x
[19:12] <heffay> my ubuntu 11.04 suddenly stopped wanting to connect to a shared directory on my network. the error messages said it failed to get the share list from the server.
[19:12] <thunder1212> hi, i want to do manual partitioning; i have a doubt; if i create a separate /home partition ;does it ensure that my data remains safe even when i switch os; say i switch from ubuntu to fedora or vice versa
[19:12] <piaoliu> 这是什么平台
[19:12] <rinkukokiri> !cn
[19:13] <ikonia> thunder1212: it doesn't make it "safe"
[19:13] <sup0> heffay: is the server you're trying to connect to running windows? you might need to disable the windows firewall
[19:13] <NictraSavios> thunder1212, It dose not garentee it, ofcourse if your not looking at you format the partition, its gone.
[19:13] <ikonia> thunder1212: it just means it's a seperate partition, how you use that is up to you
[19:13] <heffay> no its running debian
[19:13] <heffay> windows boxes have no problem connecting to the share
[19:13] <NictraSavios> thunder1212, I would suggest you still do backups. And NEVER have 2 OS with the exact same username share the /home , If you have 2, use different usernames
[19:13] <piaoliu> 有什么方法学会使用这系统
[19:13] <cgroza>  
[19:13] <cgroza>  
[19:13] <cgroza>  
[19:13] <cgroza>  
[19:13] <cgroza>  
[19:13] <FloodBot1> cgroza: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:14] <pozic> ikonia: do you know whether I can reuse an existing lvm2 volume in Ubuntu?
[19:14] <thunder1212> so what shoul be done
[19:14] <ikonia> pozic: what do you mean, reuse it ?
[19:14] <nit-wit> ! cn | piaoliu
[19:14] <cgroza> sorry, accident
[19:14] <weside> Question: if Ubuntu is based off Debian, then how come I read that they are not really compatible?.
[19:14] <pozic> ikonia: I mean that I do not use the /home user data.
[19:14] <pozic> ikonia: er lose
[19:14] <NictraSavios> thunder1212, use dejadup to keep backups.
[19:14] <ravage> pozic: at least the alternate installer should recognize your lvm volumes. so you can "reuse" them
[19:14] <ikonia> pozic: that's quite hit and miss, it really depends how it goes
[19:15] <sup0> heffay: have you tried opening the share with smb://192.xxx.xxx.xxx (ip address) in firefox and seeing if you can connect that way?
[19:15] <ikonia> pozic: if the volume group data is sane, yes, you can, if not no
[19:15] <alvinPH> hello, how can i install prism? i'm running xubuntu 11.03
[19:15] <NictraSavios> thunder1212, Or make a 3rd partiton mounted as /media/Shared to keep music and all that. That way you can format /home and / and your data is still safe.
[19:15] <cgroza> weside, ubuntu made a lot of changes so they are not binary compatible rigt now.
[19:15] <pozic> ravage: the livecd doesn't do that?
[19:15] <alvinPH> hello, how can i install prism? i'm running xubuntu 11.04*
[19:15] <sup0> heffay: you can also do that in natilus probably, not sure
[19:15] <rinkukokiri> how do I uninstall unity completely, i don't want it
[19:15] <ikonia> pozic: normally a vgscan will find the old volume group, and as loong as you don't do a pvcreate on the device, it should be fine
[19:15] <heffay> sup8: i have and it wont work
[19:15] <ravage> pozic: not sure. but the livecd uses the fancy GUI setup. i don't know if the partiton tool is that advanced there
[19:15] <heffay> i dont have natilus
[19:15] <NictraSavios> thunder1212, Remember, your data means everything to you, Daily backups and monthy DVD backups would not be anywhere close to overkill.
[19:16] <ikonia> pozic: does that make sense to you ?
[19:16] <weside> thanks cgroza
[19:16] <pozic> ikonia: yes, but I just want it to run that by itself and then ask to me 'hey, you are using lvm2, shall we map foo to bar for you'?
[19:16] <alvinPH> hello, how can i install prism? i'm running xubuntu 11.04*
[19:16] <NictraSavios> ravage, Gparted will always be gparted
[19:16] <sup0> *nautilus. it's the GNOME file manager
[19:16] <ikonia> pozic: that's not going to happen
[19:16] <thunder1212> yes ..
[19:16] <TTilus> skype won't start anymore  "Loading IM context type 'ibus' failed ... wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64"
[19:16] <heffay> i know that.. im not using gnome...
[19:16] <sup0> ok sry
[19:16] <ikonia> pozic: the exportint and importing of volume groups and phsycial volumes requires a manual "do this"
[19:16] <thunder1212> but daily backups would amount to huge size
[19:16] <Snooz> #help
[19:16] <NictraSavios> thunder1212, :P thats why you delete ones a week old
[19:17] <rinkukokiri> how do I uninstall unity completely, i don't want it
[19:17] <NictraSavios> thunder1212, There are tools that can automate it :P
[19:17] <NictraSavios> ring1, apt-get purge unity*
[19:17] <NictraSavios> ring1, Waring, you may be stuck at a console login.
[19:17] <cgroza> thunder1212, I just use dropbox to save what I cannot afford to lose. Daily backups are an overkill for me
[19:17] <nit-wit> rinkukokiri, can you use the classic ubutu?
[19:17] <ballon5454> hi
[19:17] <nit-wit> *ubuntu
[19:18] <rinkukokiri> i want to uninstall unity, i am using classic... i just want unity GONE
[19:18] <ikonia> Snooz: how can we help ?
[19:18] <NictraSavios> rinkukokiri, Purge it out, Do you like gnome 3? Thats available too.
[19:18] <rinkukokiri> maybe, i think i will try it.
[19:18] <fyksen> Is there a apt-get based distro with gnome 3?
[19:19] <NictraSavios> rinkukokiri, I am using it now, it takes alot of extensions and the gnome-tweak-tool, but its awesome :P
[19:19] <iocor> is it possible to add things to the top right text in ubuntu 11.04?
[19:19] <thunder1212> like in windoes os u create c drive d drive and u keep all data in d drive so if u format the data in d drive is safe
[19:19] <ballon5454> the new ubuntu version suport esound ?
[19:19] <heffay> no samba for ubuntu i guess
[19:19] <genupulas> !esound
[19:20] <oCean> !gnome3 | rinkukokiri remember that gnome3 is not supported
[19:20] <NictraSavios> fyksen, Ubuntu. Its in the repo's
[19:20] <ballon5454> ubuntu support esound ?
[19:20] <oCean> NictraSavios: fyksen no it is not in the repos, gnome3 is not supported
[19:20] <thunder1212> no apt-get distro for gnome 3 yet i know
[19:20] <fyksen> NictraSavios,
[19:20] <NictraSavios> fyksen, Personally Im using arch linux, came to #ubuntu to see if they needed some help with anything.
[19:20] <NictraSavios> oCean, yes it is, the shell is anyway.
[19:21] <fyksen> NictraSavios,  Y, iknow.. I', using it now, but I really enjoy using a more complete system..
[19:21] <phong_> hi guys,
[19:21] <NictraSavios> fyksen, Why not make it complete? You do release its what you make it?
[19:21] <pozic> ikonia: do you have any more details on setting that up?
[19:21] <[THC]AcidRain> !lastseen Octobyte
[19:21] <pozic> ikonia: in particular at boot these volume groups need to be activated, etc.
[19:21] <ballon5454> !esound
[19:21] <ikonia> pozic: from within the installer or manually post install ?
[19:22] <[THC]AcidRain> !esound OctoByte
[19:22] <pozic> ikonia: the easiest way.
[19:22] <[THC]AcidRain> !stfu Me
[19:22] <ballon5454> !esound OctoByte
[19:22] <djiefo> Hi. How can I install a theme file    .gz?
[19:22] <fyksen> NictraSavios, Well, it's not supported.. Harder to get help.
[19:22] <ikonia> pozic: I don't believe the installer can deal with it
[19:22] <NictraSavios> fyksen, I have a splash screen on bootup into gdm, I do most of my work on the GUI. But this is #Ubuntu, head to #archlinux to get help with that.
[19:22] <genupulas> ballan5454 no document man
[19:22] <oCean> [THC]AcidRain: control your language, don'tmess with the bot
[19:22] <[THC]AcidRain> sorry. what is the last seen command?
[19:22] <pozic> ikonia: /home is on a different hardisk.
[19:22] <oCean> [THC]AcidRain: there is none
[19:22] <ikonia> pozic: post install you just need to do a vgscan and depending on it's results a vgimport and they should be back for you to use as you want
[19:22] <[THC]AcidRain> :(
[19:23] <NictraSavios> fyksen, Arch linux isnt mean to be easy. But you can do anything on it
[19:23] <[THC]AcidRain> can anyone tell me why i cant change permissions on my own external hd?
[19:23] <pozic> ikonia: yes, but don't I have to say that it has to do the activation on boot somewhere?
[19:23] <NictraSavios> [THC]AcidRain, Is it in ntfs?
[19:23] <[THC]AcidRain> yes
[19:23] <KM0201> [THC]AcidRain: cuz you don't have permission?
[19:23] <llutz> !ntfs |[THC]AcidRain:
[19:23] <nit-wit> NictraSavios, good wiki's though, not that hard.;)
[19:23] <NictraSavios> [THC]AcidRain, Then it should be ignored. use sudo to change them.
[19:23] <[THC]AcidRain> i cant
[19:23] <ikonia> pozic: if you put the volumes you need in fstab they will get activated
[19:23] <NictraSavios> nit-wit, Very good wiki's,
[19:24] <[THC]AcidRain> permission is still denied through sudo
[19:24] <llutz> !ntfs-3g |[THC]AcidRain:
[19:24] <Omega> NictraSavios, I appreciate you coming to help us here, but don't get derailed into off-topicness :)
[19:24] <pozic> ikonia: ok, so I can basically just copy the existing /etc/fstab entries.
[19:24] <NictraSavios> Omega, Opps, sorry >.<
[19:24] <thunder1212> so if i don't format the /home drive it remains ssafe then how do i mount it back to new os ??
[19:24] <ikonia> pozic: you can use them as a base, but they may change slitly (shouldn't do unless you are using block id's)
[19:24] <NictraSavios> Omega, Trust me, I even do that in Arch. Start talking about mint lmao! , Ill try my hardest :)
[19:24] <pozic> ikonia: I think I am using UUIDs.
[19:25] <NictraSavios> thunder1212, When your reinstalling, go to "something else"
[19:25] <ikonia> pozic: ok, so they logical volumes shouldn't change, but the volume gruop may change it, you'll know once you do a vgscan
[19:25] <NictraSavios> thunder1212, Click on change, mount at "/home"
[19:25] <[THC]AcidRain> thanks!
[19:25] <NictraSavios> thunder1212, If you forget what /dev/sda it is, then open up gparted and take a look-see
[19:25] <Foran> hello me again :D
[19:26] <Foran> When i chose from boot menu to run Ubuntu, just black screen is shown, i can use ctrl+alt+f1, but can i fix it from there?
[19:26] <NictraSavios> Foran, Whats the issue?
[19:27] <thunder1212> ok i will try to be careful !!! thanks  a lot for the enlightening talk : )
[19:27] <thunder1212> bye..
[19:27] <alvinPH> hello, how can i install mozilla prism or webrunner? i'm running xubuntu 11.04*
[19:27] <Foran> When I chose to boot UBUNTU, it seems like starting to load, but then just black screen is shown.
[19:27] <djiefo> Hi. How can I install a theme file    .gz?  Some threads say to drag and drop but its not working here
[19:27] <Monotoko> heyy guys, I have no CD drive and Windows 7 at the moment..any idea how I can install Kubuntu 10.10 to a memory stick...or would WUBI suffice, or would I get some definate performance upgrades if I install it on its own?
[19:28] <[THC]AcidRain> does anyone know where i can download the ntfs-config package?
[19:28] <hatalar205> Monotoko try Unetbootin
[19:28] <NictraSavios> Foran, Okay, When you get into the grub prompt. You have a few tools. type "set root=(hdX,msdosX)" replace X with what your root system is. then type in "linux /boot/vm" , hit tab, should complete it for you then ls /boot, figure out what the *.img file is your init, then type initrd /boot/XXXX , where XXXX is your image, finnaly, type in boot
[19:29] <jnlsnl_> Im trying to follow this: http://linux.chrissweeney.co.uk/topic.php?t=40  ...When i boot from the sysres cd and run the command: e2fsck -f -c -v /dev/sda1 ....it get stuck on 12.75% every time :-( Not sure how to proceed
[19:29] <NictraSavios> Foran, If you get stuck, type "help" to see a list of available commands. Use that to get into ubuntu, then once your in , sudo update-grub
[19:29] <Monotoko> hatalar205, thanks! That's the program I've been after for a while...couldn't remember what it was called >.>
[19:30] <Foran> it's too fucking har for me xD is there any tutorial ?
[19:30] <NictraSavios> Foran, Plenty.
[19:30] <ikonia> Foran: control the language
[19:30] <Foran> sorry
[19:30] <aethe> Hello.
[19:31] <smokeycastle> why is there no manual page for exim?
[19:31] <JoeA1> hi I have a problem with tightvncserver, if it crashes all the apps started in the same session terminate, how to avoid that (I'm no familiar with the linux session management)?
[19:32] <NictraSavios> Oppie. Always make sure you plug in your laptops power cord
[19:32] <ZykoticK9> JoeA1, if you're using cli apps - check out screen (I don't know of a GUI equivalent)
[19:33] <amin`> Do dsl and pptp vpn connection stop and start which managed by network-manager have terminal commands?
[19:33] <JoeA1> ZykoticK9: I'm using VirtualBox in GUI mode (for starting and managing VMs)
[19:33] <NictraSavios> ZykoticK9, JoeA1 I suggest tmux over screen, screens codebase is unmanagable and development will cease within the next few months
[19:33] <cody> hello?
[19:34] <NictraSavios> cody Hi there
[19:34] <ZykoticK9> NictraSavios, really?  wow - that makes me a little sad
[19:34] <djiefo> Hi. How can I install a theme file    .gz?  Some threads say to drag and drop but its not working here
[19:34] <cody> hey i haven't used irc in a long time
[19:34] <NictraSavios> ZykoticK9, I helped code a part of screen, so I know the state its in, :( I feel sad too knowing my code went to waste
[19:34] <cody> anywere i should go for help?
[19:35] <NictraSavios> cody,  For ubuntu? Right here
[19:35] <cody> oh ok :)
[19:35] <NictraSavios> !ask | cody
[19:35] <JoeA1> NictraSavios: tmux supports remote desktop functionality?
[19:36] <cody> so whats good channel for role playing (non-sexual)
[19:36] <NictraSavios> joeA1, Never used it so I cant say. I am a diehard screen user, But I have to say, its dying. Im pretty sure it dose.
[19:36] <amin`> Do dsl and pptp vpn connection stop and start which managed by network-manager have terminal commands?
[19:36] <NictraSavios> cody, no clue >.< I dont do RP.
[19:36] <llutz> cody: ask in #freenode
[19:36] <djiefo> Hi. How can I install a theme file    .gz?  Some threads say to drag and drop but its not working here
[19:36] <cody> ok thanks :)
[19:37] <NictraSavios> djiefo, Extract it, there should be a readme
[19:37] <donkeyinspace> hello, im going crazy to make an usb startup pen drive. i tried startup disk creator but receive an error message when booting then someone suggested to use unetbootin but im not being able to install it, i see it in synaptic and able to download it but it doesn t install the package. anyone can help?
[19:37] <JoeA1> NictraSavios: okey thanks
[19:37] <NictraSavios> djiefo, If not, what type of theme is it? Desktop theme? They go in /usr/share/themes
[19:38] <NictraSavios> donkeyinspace, Do you get an error like "not com3r image"
[19:38] <djiefo> NictraSavios, thx
[19:38] <NictraSavios> djiefo, No problem, its what im here for :)
[19:38] <NictraSavios> donkeyinspace, And then it throws you to a command line?
[19:38] <alvinPH> how can i integrate the webrunner apps to the internet menu?
[19:39] <NictraSavios> alvinPH, Are they in another menu and you want them moved?
[19:39] <donkeyinspace> NictraSavios , ERROR  No configuration file found        no default or ui configuration directive        boot
[19:40] <heffay> my ubuntu 11.04 suddenly stopped wanting to connect to a shared directory on my network. the error messages said it failed to get the share list from the server.
[19:40] <NictraSavios> donkeyinspace, Hmm. never had that error. If it gives you any space to type things in, type "live" or "install" , failing that "vesamenu"
[19:40] <induz> could you suggest me a webcam application
[19:40] <JoeA1> NictraSavios: if I'm using cli apps which output log messages how can I see that output live without a screen?
[19:41] <induz>  i have ubuntu 10 running
[19:41] <nelson___> algum portugues?
[19:41] <NictraSavios> JoeAI, you mean like, print them off?
[19:41] <[THC]AcidRain> is my best bet to hook this external drive to a windows computer and change permissions?
[19:41] <induz> what programm to run the webcam
[19:41] <[THC]AcidRain> having 9.04 and it not being supported by repos is a major downfall
[19:41] <JoeA1> NictraSavios: I mean how to pipe the output to my current terminal
[19:41] <NictraSavios> induz, Cheese
[19:42] <[THC]AcidRain> ubuntu went to hell when they stopped
[19:42] <induz> I want to grab images from webcam
[19:42] <ikonia> !webcam | induz
[19:42] <djiefo> NictraSavios,  for something, i can't drag and drop in this folder maybe permissions
[19:42] <donkeyinspace> what does it mean a grey star in synaptic ubuntu packages?
[19:42] <llutz> [THC]AcidRain: use mount-options like uid/gid/umask when mounting the hdd to get permissions you want
[19:42] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmm... ill check this out
[19:42] <NictraSavios> JoeA1, Oh, Should just happen if your watching it after you run the command. There is something out there to do this put i cannot quite remember it, its like put | aux ... something at the end.
[19:43] <NictraSavios> JoeA1, One second.
[19:43] <nelson___> portuguese speking?
[19:43] <nelson___> portuguese speaking?
[19:43] <elizabethanne> Hello?
[19:43] <[THC]AcidRain> there appears to be no mount options that say aobut permissions
[19:43] <[THC]AcidRain> ill google
[19:44] <kitche> JoeA1: you would tail the log file
[19:44] <gohdan> ~br | nelson___
[19:44] <gohdan> !br | nelson___
[19:44] <donkeyinspace> what does it mean a grey star in synaptic ubuntu packages?
[19:44] <th0r> [THC]AcidRain: I think the umask mount option addresses permissions
[19:44]  * gohdan damn you qwerty engineers!
[19:44] <elizabethanne> Please, I accidentally deleted my wireless icon from the top panel in Xubuntu 11.04. When I reboot, it appears for a split-second, then disappears.
[19:45] <NictraSavios> JoeA1, pacman -S package | tee filename
[19:45] <JoeA1> kitche: yeh but I want a live tail tool :)
[19:45] <NictraSavios> JoeA1, Command | tee Filename I belive
[19:45] <NictraSavios> JoeA1, Not 100%, never used it once. I always just read /var/log
[19:45] <JoeA1> kitche: so that I always see the new output
[19:45] <alvinPH> NictraSavios: i can't find prism or webrunner in software center
[19:45] <kitche> JoeA1: umm tail is live
[19:45] <kitche> JoeA1: tail -f
[19:46] <JoeA1> ah perfect
[19:46] <JoeA1> that is it
[19:46] <JoeA1> thanks a lot
[19:46] <NictraSavios> alvinPH, hmm, Do they work in linux? If so, try googling around a little. Ive never heard of either so someone else can probably provide more info.
[19:46] <NictraSavios> kitche, Thanks :) Ill remember that one aswell.
[19:47] <elizabethanne> ?
[19:47] <NictraSavios> elizabethanne, Right click pannel > add to panel
[19:47] <NictraSavios> elizabethanne, In gnome not unity right? I dont think you can delete it in unity...
[19:48] <elizabethanne> I'm in Xubuntu 11.04, using Xfce.
[19:48] <NictraSavios> elizabethanne, Try joining #xubuntu for that
[19:48] <tjiggi_fo> elizabethanne, rightclick the top panel, choose "add to panel" and click wireless icon
[19:48] <alvinPH> NictraSavios: prism is installed in peppermintOS that's why I am missing it in ubuntu
[19:49] <elizabethanne> There's no "Wireless Icon."
[19:49] <NictraSavios> alvinPH, Hmm, try getting it from online. Someone else might be able to help more, Idk much about prism or webrunner
[19:49] <ZykoticK9> alvinPH, wasn't prism dropped by mozilla?  i could certainly be wrong.  FYI prism isn't in Debian (stable) either.
[19:49] <elizabethanne> There's Network Monitor and Notification Area. Notification Area is grayed out.
[19:50] <Solaris444> Hi.  For some reason I can't get cron jobs to run on my Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS box.
[19:50] <tjiggi_fo> elizabethanne, one sec
[19:50] <elizabethanne> The only freenode displayed is #ubuntu.
[19:50] <alvinPH> ahh, it's renamed as webrunner now and can be added on to firefox , but whenever I create a shortcut it doesn't work
[19:50] <NictraSavios> elizabethanne,  type /join #xubuntu
[19:50] <Solaris444> I have the following entry in crontab for user "sysadmin": 0 21 * * 0,1,2,3,4,5 sudo backupscript
[19:51] <Solaris444> But it never runs.
[19:51] <ikonia> Solaris444: use full paths
[19:51] <ikonia> Solaris444: make sure sudo is setup to not need a password
[19:51] <Solaris444> It doesn't run when I use sudo /home/sysadmin/backupscript either.
[19:51] <llutz> Solaris444: why not using systemcrontab without sudo?
[19:51] <ikonia> Solaris444: what happans ?
[19:51] <NictraSavios> Solaris444, to edit sudo , if you dont know vi, use EDITOR=gedit visudo
[19:51] <Solaris444> ikonia: nothing happens.
[19:51] <ikonia> Solaris444: then there is a problem with your script
[19:51] <Solaris444> I have sudo permission for the script.
[19:52] <Solaris444> There is not a problem with the script.
[19:52] <ikonia> Solaris444: but your script is wrong if it does nothing
[19:52] <Solaris444> It runs to completion when manually invoked.
[19:52] <proSI> hello
[19:52] <NictraSavios> Solaris444, Is sudo setup to not ask for a password.
[19:52] <Solaris444> Creating a log file correctly and such.
[19:52] <proSI> I just installed ubuntu 11.04
[19:52] <Solaris444> sudo asks for password.
[19:52] <Solaris444> I have given it my password.
[19:52] <amin`> Do dsl and pptp vpn connection stop and start which managed by network-manager have terminal commands?
[19:52] <proSI> do I need any type of antivirus?
[19:52] <Solaris444> I also tried to run the script as root, and added the script to root's crontab.
[19:52] <proSI> if so, what is it?
[19:52] <ZykoticK9> !virus | proSI
[19:52] <ikonia> Solaris444: yes, so sudo needs to be setup for the user running the cronjob
[19:53] <NictraSavios> Solaris444, Hmm. Idk then
[19:53] <Solaris444> sudo has been set up for the user running the cron job.
[19:53] <proSI> ubottu thanks a lot :)
[19:53] <Solaris444> Is my time syntax correct? 0 21 * * 0,1,2,3,4,5
[19:53] <arleslie> Hey guys, I'm trying to install a network printer on Ubuntu 11.04 --- I keep getting this error: "Tree connect failed (NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)"
[19:54] <NictraSavios> THAT WAS COOL! phink in the archchat room can't do that haha!
[19:54] <ikonia> Solaris444: looks ok
[19:54] <NictraSavios> go ubuntu :P
[19:54] <Solaris444> that's what I thought.
[19:54] <NictraSavios> ubottu*
[19:54] <usr13> arleslie: Use IP address.
[19:54] <Solaris444> I just can't figure out why the system is ignoring the line.
[19:54] <Solaris444> I used crontab -e
[19:54] <arleslie> usr13, I am
[19:54] <Solaris444> and selected editor nano.
[19:54] <ZykoticK9> arleslie, well appears to be a Workgroup / Domain name issue - sorry, absolutely no help here.  Good luck.
[19:54] <Solaris444> crontab -l shows it installed.
[19:54] <usr13> arleslie: Can you ping it?
[19:54] <arleslie> usr13, yes
[19:55] <NictraSavios> brb
[19:55] <arleslie> ZykoticK9, any place I could get help then?
[19:55] <zelo> im having issues setting up a bluetooth mouse, im running the xfce manager, but when i click "turn on" from the icon it seems 2 turn on, but wheres the device manager thing to add the mouse?
[19:55] <usr13> arleslie: Where are you getting the error from?
[19:55] <omichalek> could anybody help, pls.? on another machine I just installed natty but no matter what I choose in GDM it just gets stuck showing wallpaper and mouse cursor :(
[19:55] <ZykoticK9> arleslie, you're in the right place - I'm just no help.
[19:55] <llutz> Solaris444: do you use full pathes inside your script too?
[19:55] <arleslie> usr13, the web-interface, the printer application in ubuntu just says "Unable to connect to CIFS host"
[19:55] <tjiggi_fo> elizabethanne, check in System Preferences > Startup Applications that Network Manager is ticked
[19:56] <arleslie> usr13, I should also point out that the printer is hosted on a Windows 7 computer.
[19:56] <usr13> arleslie: Then it is NOT a network printer.  It is a shared printer.
[19:56] <Solaris444> llutz: that shouldn't matter though?
[19:56] <Solaris444> It worked in Ubuntu 8.04
[19:56] <llutz> Solaris444: cron runs in limited environment, it does matter
[19:56] <arleslie> usr13, sorry it's what I considered a network printer.
[19:56] <usr13> arleslie: Probably best to plug the printer directly into the Ubuntu machine.
[19:57] <Solaris444> So why did it work in Ubuntu 8.04?
[19:57] <Solaris444> my script does cd to /var/log and then touches the log file for the script.
[19:57] <arleslie> usr13, I would if I could, but I guess I can find other work arounds.
[19:57] <Solaris444> Instead of touch /var/log/somelog
[19:57] <[THC]AcidRain> ok so how do i format a drive as a different file system?
[19:57] <[THC]AcidRain> perhaps that will help me the most
[19:57] <usr13> arleslie: Why can't you?
[19:57] <Solaris444> but like i said, that doesn't explain why it worked in ubuntu 8.04
[19:58] <arleslie> usr13, it's a family used printer and I don't have the room in my room to move it to
[19:58] <usr13> arleslie: Does your router have a print server option?
[19:58] <arleslie> usr13, no
[19:58] <th0r> [THC]AcidRain: mkfs handles most formats. Start at that man page
[19:59] <usr13> arleslie: Well, I don't know then.  I've never tried to access a printer shared from Win7
[19:59] <arleslie> usr13, have you had success trying to access a printer from any SMB?
[19:59] <usr13> arleslie: Yes
[20:00] <arleslie> usr13, well I can connect to the printer via smb (the printing application can see it) I just cannot print to it.
[20:02] <usr13> arleslie: I should clarify:  I have shared a printer connected to a Linux computer with a MS Windows computer.  That is the experience I have.  I do not have experience in accessing a printer shared from a MS Windows computer.
[20:03] <w1n5ton> I have a really annoying problem
[20:03] <arleslie> usr13, ok, thanks for your help anyway.
[20:03] <w1n5ton> AT LEAST once a day my computers IP changes
[20:03] <w1n5ton> I have to keep logging into the router and triggering ports for that computer
[20:03] <arleslie> w1n5ton, local network IP or the internet IP?
[20:03] <w1n5ton> Local
[20:03] <arleslie> w1n5ton, this is also a network issue and not a ubuntu issue.
[20:03] <trolololooooo> hey
[20:04] <w1n5ton> It does not do this with windows computers
[20:04] <heffay> my ubuntu 11.04 suddenly stopped wanting to connect to a shared directory on my network. the error messages said it failed to get the share list from the server.
[20:04] <w1n5ton> Is there a way to force it to use a static IP?
[20:04] <heffay> anyone?
[20:04] <arleslie> w1n5ton, near the top right of the screen, you should see two arrows (one up and one down)
[20:05] <w1n5ton> Okay?
[20:05] <gdude> okay so I did something stupid, I was going to change the owner of a folder and subfolders (-R) to www-data but I managed to make the change to / !
[20:05] <gdude> sudo stopped working so I logged in as root
[20:05] <gdude> changed the owner of everything to root
[20:05] <arleslie> w1n5ton, right click it, and click "Edit Connections"
[20:05] <[1]user1> if i add a host name to /etc/hosts as ip abc.com and hostname as abc.com how much  time later i can ssh into it as abc.com
[20:06] <gdude> and now I get when I use sudu... (wait checking)
[20:06] <gdude> "sudo: must be setuid root"
[20:06] <w1n5ton> Oh yeah I use wifi so it's different
[20:06] <cygnus_> [1]user1: right away
[20:06] <gdude> so what is stuid and how to I change it to root?
[20:07] <llutz> gdude: chmod +s $(which sudo)
[20:07] <gdude> setuid*
[20:07] <w1n5ton> Now what?
[20:07] <arleslie> w1n5ton, well then you should see a radio signal icon (half ovals increasing upward)
[20:07] <arleslie> w1n5ton, click the wireless tab
[20:07] <w1n5ton> I'm at the edit connections screen
[20:07] <w1n5ton> Okay
[20:07] <arleslie> w1n5ton, select your wireless connect, (auto <connection name>)
[20:07] <[THC]AcidRain> i hope this works....
[20:07] <w1n5ton> Okay
[20:07] <arleslie> w1n5ton, then click edit, then go to the IPv4 settings
[20:07] <je0rjey> how to set up a dial up connection for bsnl broadband in ubuntu?
[20:08] <w1n5ton> okay
[20:08] <Solaris444> ikonia: and now it works.
[20:08] <Solaris444> for some completely unknown reason.
[20:08] <arleslie> w1n5ton, if you already know your ip information change the dhcp to manual,  if not right click the same icon as before and click "Connection Information"
[20:08] <aguitel_> i need to install network-manager-gnome in other pc with no internet connection ,how i do that ?
[20:09] <gdude> llutz: I'm not sure I follow, doing "chmod +s" to a dummy txt file and doing ls -l gives me -rwSr-Sr-- , what are those S's?
[20:09] <[THC]AcidRain> im formatting /dev/sdb
[20:09] <je0rjey> clear
[20:09] <w1n5ton> Okay
[20:09] <[THC]AcidRain> is this safe?
[20:09] <[THC]AcidRain> well i hope it is... its already started
[20:09] <th0r> aguitel_: download the package from packages.ubuntu.com on another computer
[20:09] <arleslie> w1n5ton, once you know your network information, change the Method to manual then click add and type in the same information
[20:09] <llutz> gdude: man chmod        (suid/sgid)
[20:09] <arleslie> w1n5ton, after you click save you will have that ip the entire time
[20:10] <aguitel_> th0r, but the dependences ?
[20:10] <je0rjey> how to dialup a internet connection when the modem is in bridge mode?
[20:10] <Solaris444> llutz: and now it works for some reason.
[20:10] <llutz> [THC]AcidRain: /dev/sdb is the full drive. Are you sure you don't want to use a partition to create a filesystem?
[20:10] <arleslie> [THC]AcidRain, as long as you want to erase that drive, should be altho since your not doing a partition I'm not too surer about the outcome.
[20:10] <Solaris444> Didn't do anything different.
[20:10] <th0r> aguitel_: you will have to have them as well...will need to figure it all out ahead of time
[20:10] <w1n5ton> what do I put for gateway?
[20:10] <llutz> Solaris444: moon, stars, who knows
[20:10] <Solaris444> No kidding.
[20:10] <th0r> arleslie: you didn't use an ip from the dhcp pool did you? that might be assigned to another computer by the router at some point
[20:10] <[THC]AcidRain> arleslie: yeah it warned me of that. im just using it for storage. in hopes that i can change user permissions
[20:11] <klown> I'm having an issue with my display.  I cannot fully see my task bars due to the resolution being wrong (I'm using a 32in tv as my monitor, its not my tv)  ubuntu 11.04 (installed today), nvidia gtx 260.  Any ideas?
[20:11] <Solaris444> Anyway thanks. :)
[20:11] <Solaris444> exit
[20:11] <aguitel_> th0r, ihow download the package with all dependences?
[20:11] <Solaris444> oops
[20:11] <arleslie> w1n5ton, what is your current ip?
[20:11] <[THC]AcidRain> im hoping thats just my external hdd
[20:11] <w1n5ton> 192.168.1.89
[20:11] <th0r> aguitel_: the dependencies are listed at that website if I remember correctly
[20:11] <DannyS> Viewing a Quicktime stream from the Apple website is very buggy using gecko engine and mplayer plugin.  Pinguy 11.04 seems to have resolved that issue.  Streams perform flawlessly.  Does anyone know how to get the same result in Ubuntu?
[20:11] <cemc> hi. I'm trying to disable ipv6 autoconfig through sysctl, but my wlan0 keeps getting autoconfig turned on, I think by NetworkManager. how can I disable it for good?
[20:11] <arleslie> th0r, it is very unlikely for that to happen and the dhcp server normally checks
[20:11] <w1n5ton> Put that as the address?
[20:12] <w1n5ton> and subnet mask as netmask?
[20:12] <arleslie> w1n5ton, try 192.168.1.1 if you don't have internet after using that, open it back up and try 192.168.1.254
[20:12] <arleslie> w1n5ton, the subnet mask is the netmask
[20:12] <w1n5ton> So it's the IP of the router?
[20:12] <arleslie> w1n5ton, yes
[20:12] <[THC]AcidRain> http://whatismyip.com
[20:12] <w1n5ton> it is 192.168.1.254
[20:12] <th0r> w1n5ton: you can determine the gateway and dns addresses from ifconfig
[20:13] <arleslie> w1n5ton, then the gateway would be 192.168.1.254
[20:13] <w1n5ton> I still have internet
[20:13] <llutz> [THC]AcidRain: that will hardly tell you your internal ip
[20:13] <symptom> wth is wrong with traceroute6
[20:13] <arleslie> [THC]AcidRain, thanks, but we were getting the internal ip
[20:13] <gohdan> [THC]AcidRain:  that shows the external wlan ip and not the internal address?? O_o?
[20:13] <[THC]AcidRain> oh sry.
[20:13] <[THC]AcidRain> ifconfig is the way to go then
[20:13] <arleslie> w1n5ton, ok, then you should have the same ip for the entire time that computer connects to your wireless connection.
[20:13] <symptom> $ traceroute6 google.com
[20:14] <symptom> traceroute: unknown host google.com
[20:14] <arleslie> symptom, can you ping google.com ?
[20:14] <cemc> symptom: try: ipv6.google.com
[20:14] <symptom> yes
[20:14] <thepentester> hi
[20:14] <w1n5ton> what if it disconnects
[20:14] <arleslie> w1n5ton, it'll use that IP when it reconnects
[20:14] <symptom> cemc, same
[20:14] <symptom> arleslie, yes I can ping
[20:14] <arleslie> symptom, are you using IPv6 or IPv4?
[20:15] <w1n5ton> it works
[20:15] <w1n5ton> I tested it
[20:15] <w1n5ton> thanks
[20:15] <arleslie> w1n5ton, your welcome
[20:15] <thepentester> ipv6 doesnt work in turkey ar
[20:15] <thepentester> ar
[20:15] <cemc> symptom: hm, it works for me, traceroute6 ipv6.google.com
[20:15] <th0r> that was a heck of a way to say thank you
[20:15] <cemc> but traceroute6 google.com indeed is not working, because google.com doesn't have AAAA I guess
[20:16] <ravage> cemc: ipv6.google.com
[20:16] <gohdan> http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/
[20:16] <cemc> ravage: that's what I said, ipv6.google.com is working
[20:16] <ravage> it's the only available native host for 99% of the users
[20:16] <symptom> arleslie, thats a great question... I dont really know.  i have both v4 and v6 behind my router
[20:17] <ravage> but read the link
[20:17] <ravage> all explained there
[20:17] <arleslie> symptom, what cemc says is corrent, google.com does not have an IPv6 ip (which means traceroute6 will not work) try ipv6.google.com
[20:17] <Lucius_Tolkar> Hey guys, I seem to be having a problem. I installed ubuntu 11.04 yesterday, got diablo 2 to install, downloaded a couple of free gnome programs, and then shut down. Went back to in this morning and now the operating system wont load, I just get a blinking cursor
[20:17] <gskellig> awhile ago, I had unity problems (unity would not work at boot) I have since fixed those, but now 3/4 times I boot it just hangs and I have to force reboot
[20:17] <gskellig> unity would not start rather,
[20:17] <klown> I'm having an issue with my display.  I cannot fully see my task bars due to the resolution being wrong (I'm using a 32in tv as my monitor, its not my tv)  ubuntu 11.04 (installed today), nvidia gtx 260.  Any ideas?
[20:17] <symptom> arleslie, i did... so ubuntu does not come with a traceroute4 installed?
[20:18] <usr13> !grub2 | Lucius_Tolkar
[20:18] <arleslie> symptom, interesting ... I guess it does not
[20:18] <cemc> symptom: what are you trying to do exactly?
[20:18] <symptom> cemc, just fooling around and tab completed tracer and found there was only traceroute6, then it said host not found....
[20:19] <symptom> So i was supprised and posted here.
[20:19] <symptom> apt-get installed traceroute works fine
[20:19] <NictraSavios> symptom, traceroute www.google.com < what happends
[20:19] <Taymon> I have a USB drive mounted and know the mount point, but need to determine the device name. Is there a command for that?
[20:19] <[1]user1> if i add a host name to /etc/hosts as ip abc.com and hostname as abc.com how much  time later i can ssh into it as abc.com
[20:19] <arleslie> symptom, to install ipv4 traceroute, use command, "sudo apt-get install traceroute"
[20:19] <symptom> thanks all.... I suppose Ubuntu is really trying to push everyone to v6... not a bad thing.
[20:19] <[1]user1> anyone??
[20:19] <symptom> arleslie, yea works fine
[20:19] <symptom> thanks
[20:19] <arleslie> symptom, ok
[20:20] <edwardthefma> help
[20:20] <guntbert> [1]user1: you need to put the ip address there
[20:20] <arleslie> It is rather out that ubuntu does not install traceroute but does install traceroute6
[20:20] <NictraSavios> !ask | edwardthefma
[20:20] <lucas-arg> is sony serie y fully supported in ubuntu 11.04? or where can i find this info?
[20:20] <edwardthefma> my wifi card sint working propory
[20:21] <NictraSavios> edwardthefma, whats wrong with it?
[20:21] <[THC]AcidRain> great...IT WORKED!
[20:21] <gskellig> Awhile ago I had unity problems, since fixing them my computer hangs on boot 3/4 times, I have to force restart several times before it will start. Any ideas?
[20:21] <[1]user1> no one?
[20:21] <[THC]AcidRain> now i just need to change the name and remount!
[20:21] <[THC]AcidRain> thanks for the help again #ubuntu!
[20:21] <[1]user1> guntberg: where?
[20:21] <gohdan> symptom: not all google subdomains are v6 ready. so you usually have to specify them manually right now. i.e. www.*, mail.* etc
[20:21] <usr13> symptom: Ubuntu can't really push people to IPv6.  It has to be done via the internet's infrastructure
[20:21] <edwardthefma> it isint reconsiing my networks
[20:21] <edwardthefma> http://pastebin.com/HfWW4mEp
[20:21] <edwardthefma> thare is the output of sudo lspci -k
[20:21] <symptom> usr13, oh I know, but it is their suttle way of ..... encouraging... i suppose
[20:22] <guntbert> !tab | [1]user1
[20:22] <symptom> first linux distro i have used that comes with v6 utils installed by default and not v4.
[20:22] <usr13> symptom: Well, it's not just Ubuntu...
[20:22] <NictraSavios> edwardthefma, It should.
[20:22] <guntbert> [1]user1: just like 134.15.4.1 abc.com
[20:23] <NictraSavios> edwardthefma, Your card is one of the ones that should be detected
[20:23] <usr13> symptom: Win7 is also IPv6 capable
[20:23] <[1]user1> guntberg: i have put this in my /etc/hosts  65.xx.23.xx abc.com and ran "/sbin/hostname abc.com". after this i did /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:23] <gskellig> Awhile ago I had unity problems, since fixing them my computer hangs on boot 3/4 times, I have to force restart several times before it will start. Any ideas?
[20:23] <guntbert> Taymon: mount  will tell you
[20:23] <gohdan> symptom: most of them come with v6 tools ootb but the system defaults to v4 for the foreseeable future
[20:24] <NictraSavios> edwardthefma, Try googling the network controller with "linux driver for ..."
[20:24] <[1]user1> guntbert: i have put this in my /etc/hosts  65.xx.23.xx abc.com and ran "/sbin/hostname abc.com". after this i did /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:24] <symptom> usr13, I dont mean to start a flame war here, I just found it interesting.  capable is different from only.  for the record, it doesnt really bother me, I just found it interesting.
[20:24] <symptom> gohdan, ubuntu defaults to v6 utils
 i think the driver isint working proporl
[20:24] <th0r> [1]user1: is that in your computer...you are setting YOUR hostname?
[20:24] <guntbert> [1]user1: you want to change the name of your local system?
[20:24] <[1]user1> th0r: yes
[20:24] <BonnieP> hey
[20:24] <NictraSavios> edwardthefma, Hmm. Its worth a try. Broadcoms are notorious
[20:24] <[1]user1> guntbert: no my server
[20:24] <[1]user1> th0r: my server machine
[20:24] <BonnieP> does someone here knows how to unban yourself?
[20:25] <BonnieP> on ICQnet?
[20:25] <th0r> [1]user1: another computer will not see that. Either you have to obtain a dns registration for your computer, or enter that information in the hosts file for the OTHER computer
[20:25] <guntbert> !ot | BonnieP
[20:25] <[1]user1> th0r: yes i have sshed to it and have made these changes
[20:25] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i create a partition table? its not letting me change the name of the drive now...
[20:25] <[THC]AcidRain> or its not allowing me to mount it as a different name
[20:26] <WizardDio> hello people
[20:26] <[THC]AcidRain> sudo mkdosfs /dev/sdb -n Server2
[20:26] <[THC]AcidRain> mkdosfs 3.0.1 (23 Nov 2008)
[20:26] <BonnieP> well i use ubuntu....so am i not allowed to ask some other question?
[20:26] <[THC]AcidRain> mkdosfs: Device partition expected, not making filesystem on entire device '/dev/sdb' (use -I to override)
[20:26] <th0r> [1]user1: as soon as you added that to the other computer, they should have been able to ping the name
[20:26] <NictraSavios> edwardthefma, I use a gateway md73, atheros ar928x driver, needed it for packet injection. But i know that broadcoms are a pain.
[20:26] <[1]user1> th0r: its not happening .
[20:26] <ZykoticK9> [THC]AcidRain, you format partitions, not drives.  like sdb1 - 1 is the partition number you want to format
[20:26] <NictraSavios> BonnieP, You are not. This is a support channel for the OS.
[20:26] <r3m_> .
[20:26] <[1]user1> th0r: neither i am able to ping abc.com from that machine.
[20:27] <[THC]AcidRain> its to late... i formatted the whole drive...
[20:27] <guntbert> BonnieP: no, only for ubuntu support
[20:27] <NictraSavios> BonnieP, Go to #ubuntu-offtopic for those matters
[20:27] <BonnieP> so what, cant you make an exception?
[20:27] <th0r> [1]user1: are you working through a wifi router? if so you will need to port forward at the router
[20:27] <BonnieP> i need some help!
[20:27] <guntbert> BonnieP: not here
[20:27] <BonnieP> then where?
[20:27] <NictraSavios> .... mod please?
[20:27] <klown> I don't even think ot is the place for her to be.
[20:27] <WizardDio> how can fix mesage busybox?
[20:28] <[1]user1> thOr: server is on a vps. how do i do that
[20:28] <guntbert> BonnieP: you can try in #ubuntu-offtopic as the text from ubottu told you
[20:28] <trijntje> Hi all, has anybody been able to activate third mouse button emulation in natty?
[20:28] <BonnieP> oh.
[20:28] <BonnieP> ok then
[20:28] <klown> I'm having an issue with my display.  I cannot fully see my task bars due to the resolution being wrong (I'm using a 32in tv as my monitor, its not my tv)  ubuntu 11.04 (installed today), nvidia gtx 260.  Any ideas?
[20:28] <ZykoticK9> [THC]AcidRain, you can use fdisk or gparted to partition the drive - then format the "partition"
[20:28] <th0r> [1]user1: on a virtual server? I doubt you will be given ssh access to a virtual server
[20:29] <aziz> what else can I do if "dd" cannot copy a DVD to an iso image file?
[20:29] <WizardDio> i have 32 inc tv as monitor but i use intel
[20:29] <gohdan> klown:  try playing around with the refresh rate
[20:30] <klown> gohdan, I have, a few times.  Tried different resolutions, then I tried to add a few resolutions with xrandr, and I kept getting an error.  So I don't know where to go now.
[20:30] <gohdan> havent used a plain tv as a monitor in years though.  remember that would sometimes help though.
[20:31] <WizardDio> http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/11/canonical-making-full-fledged-ubuntu-tablet-push-in-early-2011/
[20:31] <WizardDio> is that is the new ubuntu 11.04? lockish
[20:31] <WizardDio> http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/11/canonical-making-full-fledged-ubuntu-tablet-push-in-early-2011/
[20:32] <trijntje> How can I enable third mouse button emulation in natty, its driving me crazy that its not there
[20:32] <trijntje> thats one of the best little things about linux
[20:32] <pozic> ikonia: what are the names of the vg tools?
[20:33] <Lukas> hi
[20:33] <Lukas> someone here0
[20:33] <guntbert> aziz: in what way "cannot"? what is the error?
[20:33] <WizardDio> yes Lukas
[20:33] <aziz> one sec
[20:33] <guntbert> Lukas: plenty,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:33] <gohdan> klown:  is a flat panel, pal/ntsc crt or a rptv?
[20:33] <Lukas> i need help
[20:33] <Lukas> yeah
[20:34] <gohdan> !ask | Lukas
[20:34] <aziz> guntbert: dd: reading `/dev/dvd': Input/output error
[20:34] <ZykoticK9> aziz, you can use "cat" to create ISO images...
[20:34] <Lukas> how can i start wine with sudo?
[20:34] <aziz> k, I'll try that too
[20:34] <aziz> but how do I know which /dev/* ?
[20:34] <th0r> Lukas: why in the world would you want to?
[20:34] <gohdan> Lukas: what are you trying to run in wine that requires sudo???
[20:34] <ZykoticK9> aziz, /dev/cdrom would probably work
[20:35] <guntbert> aziz: is the device mounted? it should not be
[20:35] <Lukas> i want to start it with nice
[20:35] <Lukas> and a high priority
[20:35] <WizardDio> can i install ubuntu 11.04 on Gtablet by View sonic?
[20:35] <aziz> guntbert: oh! k, i'll unmount
[20:35] <ShermanBoyd> could someone please post their natty server /etc/apt/source.list for me?  Mine got messed up ...
[20:35] <xrdodrx> trijntje, pressing both the left and right mouse buttons doesn't work?
[20:35] <aziz> ZykoticK9: i think i tried with /dev/cdrom before
[20:35] <trijntje> xrdodrx, nope, got disabled in natty, for some crazy reason
[20:35] <guntbert> Lukas: don't run normal programs as root
[20:35] <gohdan> lukas: youre asking for a world of hurt
[20:35] <Lukas> no i want to start a game
[20:35] <Lukas> that need more resources
[20:36] <[1]user1> th0r: i have web hosting server.
[20:36] <guntbert> Lukas: do it in another way
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[20:36] <Lukas> how?
[20:36] <xrdodrx> trijntje, odd, working for me...
[20:36] <[1]user1> th0r: it has an ip
[20:36] <trijntje> xrdodrx, fresh install or upgrade?
[20:36] <[1]user1> th0r: i need to assign its domain
[20:36] <klown> gohdan, flatscreen, 720p
[20:36] <ZykoticK9> Lukas, i highly doubt trying running wine with higher priority will change anything - and running wine as root is a bad idea
[20:36] <ohwow> hello, im trying to install ubuntu from usb stick. i used usb-creator and it wrote .iso to usb. Now, when I try to boot from that usb is just says "SYSLINUX bla bla" and nothing happens.
[20:37] <Lukas> if i want to start a programm with the highest priority i need sudo
[20:37] <gohdan> Lukas: it is not advised to run normal native applications as sudo unless absolutely necessary... god help you if you if you do it with wine of all things
[20:37] <aziz> guntbert: hmm, I unmounted the device, but still getting the same error
[20:37] <th0r> [1]user1:a web hosting server should already be reachable by name. I suspect there is a problem specific to ssh, not a name/IP issue
[20:37] <Lukas> mhm
[20:37] <Lukas> but it always lags so much
[20:37] <th0r> [1]user1: can you get to the http page by name?
[20:37] <WizardDio> any1 here whit tablet expiriance?
[20:38] <guntbert> aziz: tell us the command too
[20:38] <ShermanBoyd> could someone please post their natty /etc/apt/source.list for me?
[20:38] <trijntje> Lukas, I dont think it lags dure to lack of cpu
[20:38] <Lukas> yes
[20:38] <[1]user1> th0r: no http server is running ther
[20:38] <aziz> cat /dev/dvd > /home/aziz/dvd.iso
[20:38] <gohdan> Lukas: probably because it is not native. that is the nature of how wine intercepts api calls
[20:38] <aziz> cat /dev/cdrom > /home/aziz/dvd.iso
[20:38] <Lukas> but under windows it dint lags
[20:38] <ohwow> hello, im trying to install ubuntu from usb stick. i used usb-creator and it wrote .iso to usb. Now, when I try to boot from that usb is just says "SYSLINUX bla bla" and nothing happens.
[20:38] <aziz> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/aziz/dvd.iso
[20:38] <th0r> [1]user1: do you have a domain name registered?
[20:38] <gohdan> Lukas: what game is it?
[20:39] <Lukas> Starcraft 2
[20:39] <aziz> doesn't matter if I'm su
[20:39] <xrdodrx> trijntje, it might be dependant on desktop environment, I'm using xfce...but I have no idea why they'd take that out :|
[20:39] <F3ar> ShermanBoyd, http://pastebin.com/NG3WdpqB
[20:39] <ShermanBoyd> F3ar: Thank you!
[20:40] <[THC]AcidRain> bah!
[20:40] <trijntje> xrdodrx, fyi, it is done on purpose https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/710762. And the bug has a fix, so I'm happy, thanks for your time
[20:40] <[THC]AcidRain> somehow it went back to the ntfs!
[20:40] <[1]user1> th0r: yes.
[20:40] <guntbert> ohwow: did you check the iso with md5sum?
[20:40] <gps> hi
[20:41] <xrdodrx> trijntje, sorry I couldn't be of more help :)
[20:41] <th0r> [1]user1: and you have a virtual web server, not the whole server...just a virtual server?
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[20:41] <FloodBot1> up23four: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:41] <Lukas> gohdan ?
[20:41] <KM0201> .
[20:41] <[1]user1> th0r: i have a ip which has a ubuntu server running on it.
[20:42] <trijntje> xrdodrx, no problem, I'm happy I found out how to fix it. And now I thing I'm gonna complain on the bug report for a bit ;)
[20:42] <xrdodrx> trijntje, according to this bug report the X.org developers took it out on purpose
[20:42] <xrdodrx> why would they do that is beyond me
[20:42] <th0r> [1]user1: ok...not a virtual server. you need to enter that name/ip combination in your computer in /etc/hosts. It doesn't matter if it is in the server or not...so long as your computer can convert the name to the ip you should be in business
[20:43] <Lukas> is there a away to start windows games with a higher priority?
[20:43] <[THC]AcidRain> wow. im about to throw this comp
[20:43] <ohwow> guntbert: yes
[20:43] <trijntje> Lukas, isnt it due to the graphics card, and not the cpu?
[20:43] <[THC]AcidRain> i hate windows. im using ubuntu. but hate windows.
[20:43] <[THC]AcidRain> im off to work
[20:43] <[THC]AcidRain> peace
[20:43] <Lukas> yes but under windows it works
[20:44] <Lukas> with very good graphics
[20:44] <trijntje> Lukas, nice only works for the cpu, not the video card
[20:44] <Lukas> oh
[20:44] <[1]user1> th0r: i have done that. and restarted networking. but cant ping it even from server machine.
[20:44] <trijntje> Lukas, sadly wine is not windows, so there might be differences
[20:44] <Lukas> mhm
[20:44] <guntbert> ohwow: strange
[20:44] <trijntje> Lukas, you could try updating to the latest version of wine, and/or ask in #wine
[20:44] <th0r> [1]user1: if you ping the name from your computer, does the ping response show an IP address>
[20:44] <thepentester> both use ubuntu and windows together
[20:45] <gohdan> Lukas: try checking recommendations on appdb.winehq.org or asking on #winehq how to run as a higher priority or with better performance
[20:45] <thepentester> grub is made for that
[20:45] <MethedMan> anybody know how to *browse* through "dict" servers such as "wn" and "gcine"
[20:45] <th0r> [1]user1: the first line of ping should say PING <domainname> <IP>
[20:45] <gohdan> Lukas:  but DO NOT run it with sudo
[20:45] <Lukas> i cant run it with sudo
[20:45] <Lukas> its said that its not my libery
[20:45] <th0r> [1]user1: even if the ping doesn't work you should see that first line. that would tell you the name/IP conversion is working in your computer
[20:45] <guntbert> ohwow: please have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:46] <gohdan> there is probably a reason for that
[20:46] <klown> I'm having an issue with my display.  I cannot fully see my task bars due to the resolution being wrong (I'm using a 32in tv as my monitor, its not my tv)  ubuntu 11.04 (installed today), nvidia gtx 260.  Any ideas?
[20:46] <[1]user1> th0r: no  .it resolves on server.  but not from my pc.
[20:46] <klown> ugh, didnt mean to post that again, lol.
[20:46] <[1]user1> th0r: but even from server showing ip resolution due to /etc/hosts there is no ping reply
[20:47] <th0r> [1]user1: running linux on your pc I assume. The entry should be in /etc/hosts, and it might require ipv6 now
[20:47] <MethedMan> i am using some of the dictionaries offline but would like to browse through them if possible
[20:47] <Lukas> i cant run it with sudo
[20:47] <Lukas> that my problem
[20:47] <MethedMan> any help would be appreciated
[20:47] <gohdan> klown:  iirc there is a way to manually reposition the position of the entire display via the os but it was quite some time ago and a rather obscure hack
[20:47] <[1]user1> th0r: come on ipv6. is it already june or was it to launch in august!!
[20:48] <Lukas> wine said that i am nit the owner
[20:48] <[1]user1> th0r: how do i do that.
[20:48] <[1]user1> th0r: is this the reason why my firefox refuses to open gmail also often/
[20:48] <gohdan> klown: guess it is time to brush up on your googlefu
[20:48] <th0r> [1]user1: if you can't ping the server from the server using the name, then there is a firewall or router issue involved
[20:48] <Lukas> so thank you for all the help
[20:49] <klown> gohdan, I've done it before, back in like ubuntu 8, but it required fixing the xorg.conf, but the person who helped me, wrote my xorg.conf for me.
[20:49] <klown> gohdan, I've been messing with google, I'm not just sitting around, believe me :P
[20:49] <ohwow> hello, im trying to install ubuntu from usb stick. i used usb-creator and it wrote .iso to usb. Now, when I try to boot from that usb is just says "SYSLINUX bla bla" and nothing happens. I just tried the same thing with different usb stick. Maybe i have to wait longer before it loads? but 5 minutes sounds enough
[20:49] <th0r> [1]user1: for instance, I have the following line in my /etc/hosts/....127.0.1.1  mother.....and I can ping mother from mother
[20:50] <th0r> [1]user1: but when you resolve a domain name to an external ip, then the ping has to go out to the network and get routed back, and there is where you are losing it
[20:50] <cypha``> I tried installing VBoxGuestAdditions, but sudo sh ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run didn't seem to do anything
[20:50] <cypha``> is there a log I can look at
[20:50] <cypha``> to see if something was installed?
[20:50] <slakcphil> anyone here ever do any nes rom hacking?
[20:50] <[1]user1> th0r: yes exactly/
[20:50] <th0r> [1]user1: can you ping the external ip from the server?
[20:50] <gohdan> !backups | klown
[20:50] <[1]user1> th0r: yes
[20:51] <klown> why am I backing my system up?
[20:51] <klown> :P
[20:52] <black_> mam problem
[20:52] <th0r> [1]user1: that makes no sense. If you are seeing the ip address when you try to ping the name (from the server), then the ping should work as it is using the IP even if you entered the domain name
[20:52] <gohdan> klown: storage is cheap. shame on you for not having your ancient systems and their confs backed up somewhere!!
[20:52] <BluesKaj> klown, which graphics card , and which driver is it using ?
[20:52] <klown> nvidia gtx 260
[20:52] <klown> and its using nvidia-current right now.
[20:53] <gohdan> i still have a caldera (sco linux) openlinux 1.3 system laying around here somewhere if i ever need it
[20:53] <klown> 270.41.06
[20:53] <black_> elo
[20:53] <insomina> im trying to enable a gdm login theme from gnome-look... is this not possible in ubuntu 10.10 onwards?
[20:53] <klown> gohdan, normally I get mad at linux, and swear I'll never go back, and always end up doing it.
[20:54] <klown> so, when I format, I'm upset, and backing up is the last thing I think of.
[20:54] <BluesKaj> ok klown what monitor and connection type ?
[20:54] <klown> 32inch tv, hdmi
[20:54] <klown> 720p
[20:54] <klown> panasonic flatscreen.
[20:55] <pozic> Does Ubuntu use any LVM by default?
[20:55] <pozic> If not, if I remove a Logical Volume which is now occupied by something else, will that something else not be deleted?
[20:55] <pozic> The 'something else' is Ubuntu.
[20:55] <gohdan> klown:  refresh rate applies too since its a tv
[20:55] <melkor2> hi
[20:55] <insomina> i appreciate that my question may seem trivial .. but if anyone could share some light i would be grateful. Is the login screen manager now crippled in releases of ubuntu. i cannot apply themes from gnome-look
[20:56] <melkor2> I have just installed some new packages and the unity's panel has crashed
[20:57] <_chun> anyone with dosbox installed do me a quick favour?
[20:57] <melkor2> I restart but I cant get back working
[20:57] <melkor2> not in unity nor in classic
[20:57] <[1]user1> th0r: sorry even the ip is not getting a reply. but why? how do i check if ping server is working or not. what should i install as a dns service or whatever?
[20:57] <pankaj_sharma> _chun, hmm
[20:57] <gohdan> _chun:  whatcha need?
[20:57] <melkor2> and If I run "unity" in the console, I get a segmentation fault....
[20:57] <prower> hello :> i've had a strange problem with my dvd burner since...probably 9.04 actually. although it can burn at speeds up to 32x for cd's and 16x for dvd's, no matter what software i use to burn a disc the speed is always limited to 4x
[20:57] <mikikar> lang pl?
[20:57] <klown> gohdan, the refresh rate wouldnt have anything to do with the screen being "too big", would it?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> klown, why 720 , most large scrn monitors are 1920x1080 ..my monitor is a 42" panasonic and that's it's native res ...try changing to that
[20:58] <_chun> gohdan: just need someone to try connecting to my ipx server, see if it's possible for people not on my local network
[20:58] <klown> 1920x1080 wont work, tried already
[20:58] <gohdan> !pl | mikikar
[20:58] <BluesKaj> I'm talking about the tv setting not the nvidia, klown
[20:58] <klown> here is /var/log/xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf, dont know if it will help http://pastebin.com/111TVucw
[20:58] <[1]user1> th0r: i can ping from my local machine to my server ip thoughbut not from my server to itself'sip
[20:58] <black_> n
[20:58] <mikikar> thax
[20:58] <black_> join #linuxmint-pl
[20:59] <klown> BluesKaj, So change it to 1080i?
[20:59] <BluesKaj> yup
[20:59] <klown> let me see if I can figure out how.
[21:01] <gohdan> _chun:  what services do you have running in dosbox?
[21:01] <gohdan> really should just use freedos in a vm
[21:02] <guntbert> _chun: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[21:02] <prower> hmm...well, hopefully someone will stop by with an answer on that one later :> in a more general sense, how is unity stability wise...i'm trying to decide whether or not to download ubuntu or kubuntu for my upcoming upgrade
[21:03] <boodieman> prower, stable here
[21:03] <[1]user1> th0r: ??
[21:03] <iceroot> prower: if you dont like it use kde, xfce4, lxde, gnome2
[21:04] <prower> boodieman: ah, well that's encouraging at least...most of the people i've run into have had nothing but complaints, though i suspect that's probably because it's just radically different from what people are used to on a desktop
[21:04] <jkoltner> Hello... This might not be Ubuntu-specific, although I could swear it's only started recently after some Ubuntu updates: If I execute "mv test.txt test.TXT" in bash, I get the error, "mv: 'test.txt' and 'test.TXT' are the same file."  Well, um, no, they're not!  Any idea how to make this behave?
[21:04] <prower> iceroot: i'm aware that there are other choices, yes :> i was just wondering how unity stacked up, never used it before
[21:04] <iceroot> prower: use a live-cd and find out
[21:04] <thepentester> unity sucks
[21:04] <thepentester> :D
[21:04] <boodieman> prower, its different, but its stable
[21:04] <[1]user1> th0r: how do i install dns service and remove firewalls
[21:04] <jkoltner> Oh, wait, I think I know my problem... this is on a memory card that I believe is FAT32 formatted
[21:04] <jkoltner> Sorry :-)
[21:05] <prower> boodieman: the impression i got from watching videos was that it was more tablet oriented :> i wouldn't doubt that canonical might have plans to produce an ubuntu tablet sometime in the distant future
[21:06] <boodieman> prower, I use it on my desktop machine
[21:06] <prower> thepentester, did you have any specific problems or did you just not like it in general?
[21:06] <candyban> anyone know a tool that emulates windows terminal server?
[21:07] <thepentester> prower ı am a netbook user and unity is soo useless for my netbook
[21:07] <jkoltner> candyban: check this out...
[21:07] <jkoltner> candyban: /home/jkoltner/Desktop/eBay
[21:07] <jkoltner> mmmm
[21:07] <thepentester> ı use 10.04.2 LTS right now and its ok
[21:07] <iceroot> candyban: no
[21:07] <jkoltner> candyban: sorry, I swear copy and paste isn't working, one moment
[21:07] <iceroot> candyban: but you can have a linux based terminal server e.g. with nx
[21:08] <jkoltner> candyban: Try here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xrdp/
[21:08] <prower> thepentester: ahh, that's unfortunate i was thinking of installing it on my acer aspire one as well
[21:08] <aziz> guntbert: now it's working. I didn't invoke the special install script for reading dvd's. sorry for bothering. :)
[21:08] <guntbert> aziz: glad you worked it out :)
[21:08] <aziz> yea, thx
[21:09] <candyban> jkoltner, great, I'll give it a try ... thanks
[21:09] <boodieman> prower, you dont have to use unity of you dont want to
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> about PGP: since the upgrade to natty, i am unable decrypt files, it seems i have deleted some key(s) in seahorse, hint & tips anyone?
[21:11] <prower> boodieman: yes, i know :> which is good, you need to have that choice there...i wouldn't run a version of ubuntu that didn't let me choose xorg over wayland for example, what a bug ridden mess that is :P
[21:11] <gohdan> !backups | MonkeyDust
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> gohdan: they are single files, not backup files
[21:12] <ShermanBoyd> MonkeyDust: If you can't find those keys you are out of luck
[21:12] <gohdan> MonkeyDust:  you always backup your key pair
[21:12] <ShermanBoyd> MonkeyDust: you should always back up your keys
[21:12] <ShermanBoyd> MonkeyDust: I even print them out
[21:13] <nelson___> (using ubuntu 11.04)I instaled nvidia drivers with the ADITIONAL DRIVERS option, using the recomended version. Unity is working fine. But i have this message: driver was activated but not in use (something like that, i'm using portuguese version)
[21:13] <klown> BluesKaj, I dont think I can change this to 1080i.
[21:13] <boodieman> prower, you could always just use the command line :-)
[21:13] <gohdan> ShermanBoyd:  amateur. i tattoo mine on the back of my eyelids
[21:14] <ShermanBoyd> gohdan: nice
[21:14] <prower> boodieman: i suppose i could yes, anything's possible...except for a command line version of firefox of course :P some things i can't do without, ha
[21:14] <prower> links2 doesn't quite cut it any more
[21:14] <boodieman> prower, there is Lynx :D
[21:15] <prower> boodieman: that's true, although i've found that links2 does a better job of rendering pages roughly the way they're supposed to look when i've tried it...maybe good old lynx has improved since then
[21:15] <gohdan> ShermanBoyd: it is rather troublesome when i have to revoke them... requires a cheese grater and some bleach
[21:15] <sprink> why does it seem impossible to make a bootable usb from the ubuntu iso?
[21:16] <shomon> hi, I just turned on a commercial
[21:16] <pozic> How do I mount an lvm2 volumegroup to be my /home at boot in fstab?
[21:16] <klown> ugh, everything I see about this tv says it can do 1080i, but I cant figure out how.
[21:16] <shomon>  graphics driver, and now my hp laptop won't boot
[21:16] <shomon> how do I turn it off again?
[21:16] <sprink> is there a usb image for ubuntu? I can't dd the iso
[21:16] <ShermanBoyd> gohdan: I'm going to have to start telling CEOs that they need to tattoo keys on their scalp, "it's best practice".
[21:16] <shomon> no idea what it was called
[21:17] <gohdan> ShermanBoyd: wont do any good. they never listen to the IT depts anyway
[21:17] <shomon> I can get into terminals for seconds at a time
[21:17] <prower> ShermanBoyd, although you know some keener would just take a digital photo of their heads and use it to decrypt their e-mails anyway :P
[21:17] <boodieman> prower, when I stated with unix, it was all command line, been a long time since I used it that way.  I do remember pine being a bit of a pita to use, or was that emacs?  (shows age)
[21:17] <guntbert> sprink: the iso is not meant to be dd'ed to the stick
[21:18] <nelson___> (using ubuntu 11.04)I instaled nvidia drivers with the ADITIONAL DRIVERS option, using the recomended version. Unity is working fine. But i have this message: driver was activated but not in use (something like that, i'm using portuguese version)
[21:18] <_Neytiri_> is there a known issue with USB mice and Keyboards not working after a boot up? in 10.4
[21:19] <prower> boodieman: well emacs is a text editor, pine is an e-mail client that was great for its time :> i personally didn't appreciate emacs much, i started out on slackware in 1997
[21:19] <prower> (actually it would be more appropriate to say that emacs is _everything_, including a text editor)
[21:19] <boodieman> prower, i stated on sco unix over a dial-up connection
[21:20] <lucas-arg> which netbook will run better ubuntu... asus 1015pem 1215t or sony vpc-yb15al? i need to know because it deppends on wich one will support ubuntu better... please help!
[21:20] <prower> boodieman: ouch :> when i was using dialup it was in ms-dos 4-6
[21:20] <prower> (and later windows 3.0, after that i jumped ship :P)
[21:20] <guntbert> !ot | prower
[21:20] <shomon> is there a command line way to turn off commercial drivers?
[21:21] <DevilSolution> guys im getting an error when trying to install an eclipse package, even with the -f perimeter
[21:21] <cypha``> how do I install the kernel headers?
[21:21] <RefaelAlats> see the forum post in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10905982#post10905982 & assist if you are able por favor
[21:22] <lucas-arg> !netbook
[21:22] <prower> ah well, i'm off to install 11.04 for the first time, let's hope that i'm back here before long! thanks for answering my questions everyone
[21:22] <DevilSolution> heres the paste bin, http://pastebin.com/j73sxMp9
[21:22] <DevilSolution> i think it has something to do with the high-colours trigger
[21:23] <cousin_mario> hello
[21:23] <Guybrush_Threepw> hello cousin_mario
[21:23] <cousin_mario> how can I set upstart scripts to manual start?
[21:25] <trism> cousin_mario: on 11.04?
[21:25] <cousin_mario> trism: yes
[21:26] <steve__> I have a Belgian ID card reader.  I can't get it to work.  Suggestions?
[21:26] <guntbert> cypha``: if I remember correctly dkms pulls in everything you need for vbox additions
[21:26] <trism> cousin_mario: in natty you can: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/gdm.override; replacing gdm with the name of the service you want to only start manually
[21:26] <steve__> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04
[21:27] <cousin_mario> trism: perfect, that's exactly what I was looking for
[21:27] <steve__> Belgian ID card reader HELP?
[21:27] <cousin_mario> thanks a lot
[21:27] <ikonia> steve__: ?
[21:27] <ikonia> steve__: saying random words is not helpful, explain the problem
[21:29] <gohdan> !details | steve__
[21:30] <shomon> hi how do you turn off commercial graphics drivers from the command line?
[21:30] <shomon> cos x won't load
[21:30] <OerHeks> steve__, eid  > http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/Eid
[21:30] <shomon> this is 10.04 by the way
[21:32] <brown_fern> Other than the "help.ubuntu*DCCExploit" page, and the pages it links to, are there any other places where I could read about the redirect vulnerability?
[21:32] <edbian> shomon: The easiest way it probably to uninstall the package that offers them.  What driver are you trying to remove?  (ATI or Nvidia?)
[21:32] <donkeyinspace> hello, anyone knows how to manually create an ubuntu usb live? the startup disk creator gives me an error message when booting
[21:32] <guntbert> donkeyinspace: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[21:32] <NictraSavios> donkeyinspace, Burn it to a disk?
[21:33] <shomon> edbian I'm not sure, I went into an admin menu called hardware drivers
[21:33] <kefir> is there any way to get face recognition for my photos in Ubuntu? I'm using f-spot, but it doesn't seem to have support for that. Any f-spot addins, perhaps?
[21:34] <shomon> and it was one that did 2d processing
[21:34] <edbian> shomon: Do you have an ATI card or an Nvidia card?
[21:34] <edbian> shomon: Are you logged in right now?  I know some commands we can run.
[21:34] <shomon> how can I find out which one I have?
[21:34] <shomon> yes
[21:34] <shomon> although only on a console
[21:34] <shomon> and it flashes off after 10 secs at a time
[21:35] <gohdan> shomon: please dont use the enter key as punctuation
[21:35] <Belias> Hello
[21:35] <edbian> shomon: ok well, lspci -k  will list a bunch of stuff including your card and what driver is currently in use.
[21:35] <steve__> I had connection problems, anyone with an idea as to where to see the problem with my ID card reader?
[21:35] <Belias> I have a set of photos, I want to add a water mark to them all at once, how?
[21:35] <shomon> ok sorry gohdan am typing on my phone
[21:35] <OerHeks> steve__, eid  > http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/Eid
[21:36] <edbian> shomon: no worries
[21:36] <brown_fern> The vulnerability I was talking about is the one addressed at the following page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[21:36] <shomon> ok edbian it gave loads of output
[21:36] <shomon> I will grep it for nvidia
[21:37] <edbian> shomon: I know it is long.  Do you have an nvidia card?
[21:38] <steve__> I need it in either french or english
[21:38] <shomon> I can't get the pipe character to show on this terminal so no grep
[21:38] <shomon> am looking through ebdian
[21:39] <edbian> shomon: ok
[21:39] <shomon> no nvidia in there
[21:39] <guntbert> shomon: try ctrl+i  (whatever "ctrl" is on your phone)
[21:40] <shomon> well I can do it on the phone no prob
[21:41] <shomon> not on the laptop
[21:41] <edbian> shomon: What about ATI ?
[21:41] <gohdan> shomon: are your trying to type pipe | on the phone or your local console?
[21:41] <guntbert> shomon: works there too
[21:42] <shomon> yes it says mobility radeon
[21:42] <gohdan> alt+124 works if youre at a console
[21:42] <pbos> ok, I have an unusual error, I uninstalled something, which uninstalled some kernel things and ubuntu-desktop (was too eager to press enter, removed wireless-tools and wireless-crda or something) and now my booting entry is gone from grub
[21:42] <pbos> I've installed ubuntu-desktop (did so directly)
[21:42] <pbos> but the grub entry is still gone, does anyone know if I can boot into this machine using the grub2 command line?
[21:42] <_Neytiri_> is there a known issue with USB mice and Keyboards not working after a boot up? in 10.4?
[21:43] <ikonia> pbos: how are you installing ubuntu-desktop if you can't boot the machine
[21:43] <pbos> ikonia: installed ubuntu-desktop, then rebooted the machine
[21:43] <ikonia> pbos: what do you get when you boot the machine ?
[21:43] <EsmD> I have a problem - if i want compile driver, command "sudo make" get me this: make[2]: *** No rule to make target `kernel/bounds.c', needed by `kernel/bounds.s'.  Stop.   I have linux-headers.
[21:43] <pbos> ikonia: grub2, with options for memtest and windows 7 (other os)
[21:43] <shomon> ebdian it says ati mobility radeon hd 5000 series
[21:43] <pbos> but the kernel entries are gone
[21:44] <ikonia> pbos: you'll need to boot from a livecd, chroot, and re-install the kernel
[21:44] <pbos> check, I'll grab a key mem
[21:44] <donkeyinspace> hello, anyone knows how to manually create an ubuntu usb live? the startup disk creator gives me an error message when booting
[21:45] <cypha``> guntbert, I'm not sure what you mean?
[21:45] <pbos> ikonia: can I do this from 10.10, or do I need 11.04?
[21:46] <bastidrazor> !find bounds.c | pbos
[21:46] <ikonia> pbos: it would be wise to do it from the version you're using
[21:46] <bastidrazor> err.. wrong nick pbos
[21:46] <bastidrazor> EsmD: rather.
[21:46] <mfaroukg> any one know how to solve the mouse alignment  problem in the 11.04
[21:47] <pbos> ikonia: will this chroot thing run the grub etc. files from disk or the live cd's?
[21:47] <ikonia> pbos: it will use the systems as you're chrooted
[21:48] <EsmD> bastidrazor: what?
[21:48] <shomon> ebdian sorry, I got logged out there...
[21:48] <pbos> ikonia: so 11.04 if that's what's on my disk?
[21:49] <edbian> shomon: I'm here for ya
[21:49] <ikonia> pbos: you don't need it to be the same, it's just helpful
[21:49] <bastidrazor> the file bounds.c is provided by the package c++-annotations
[21:49] <shomon> :)
[21:49] <shomon> so it is an ati
[21:49] <pbos> ikonia: if that's so, why is it preferred that i use a 11.04 cd over a 10.10 one?
[21:49] <shomon> mobility radeon 5000
[21:49] <edbian> shomon: k hang on
[21:49] <shomon> cool
[21:49] <krw> hi
[21:49] <pbos> ikonia: just curious :)
[21:49] <ikonia> pbos: incase you need any of the tools, and incase any of the setup stuff changes
[21:50] <edbian> shomon: sudo apt-get purge fglrx
[21:50] <EsmD> bastidrazor: so i must download this package if i want compile my driver?
[21:50] <shomon> ok
[21:50] <krw> ive got a big problem
[21:50] <edbian> krw: What is it
[21:50] <krw> i cant move my cursor
[21:50] <bastidrazor> EsmD: if you want bounds.c then yes.
[21:50] <edbian> krw: the machine is frozen?
[21:50] <Boohava> Is Ubuntu Natty fairly stable yet?
[21:51] <krw> i upgraded today to ubuntu 11.04
[21:51] <krw> edbian: no, everything works fine
[21:51] <mfaroukg> does any one face a mouse cursor issue on the natty ?
[21:51] <pcpower> Boohava: I wouldn't call any release stable IMO :p
[21:51] <edbian> krw: Accept the cursor?  Unplug it, plug it back in.  Try a different USB slot
[21:51] <mfaroukg> krw, same with me
[21:51] <krw> edbian: no, it works on windows perfectly
[21:51] <cypha``> this isn't working for me, and I don't know why
[21:51] <cypha``> sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[21:51] <EsmD> thank you, bastidrazor
[21:52] <shomon> ok am rebooting ebdian... that seemed to work!
[21:52] <edbian> krw: No you refuse to try unplugging and re-plugging it?
[21:52] <edbian> shomon: Sure :)
[21:52] <bastidrazor> EsmD: you're welcome.
[21:52] <Juest> hi
[21:52] <Boohava> Does Natty have a net installer (or whatever their called) like previous versions?
[21:52] <edbian> shomon: We'll know when the system comes back up.
[21:52] <krw> edbian: at the first boot, ive got a msg: It seems that you do not have the hardware required to run Unity.
[21:52] <krw> edbian: of course, i tried it
[21:52] <edbian> krw: That is likely unrelated to the mouse problem.
[21:52] <mfaroukg> edbian, I have the same problem with the mouse too, It is not going to where I want and doesn't press the right place pointing
[21:52] <Juest> Boohava: yes, it still have a net installer, it gets and installs from repos
[21:52] <edbian> mfaroukg: Does it move at all?
[21:53] <pbos> ikonia: if I grab a 11.04 cd will you be able to walk me through this? I'm fairly used to the command-line prompt but have no experience with chrooting and installing grub
[21:53] <pbos> ikonia: or can I read about this somewhere?
[21:53] <krw> mfaroukg: same problem :(
[21:53] <Boohava> Juest: Where can I find it?
[21:53] <ikonia> !grub2 > pbos
[21:53] <mfaroukg> edbian, it moves no problem
[21:53] <edbian> mfaroukg: 'it is not going where I want' ?
[21:53] <ikonia> pbos: the only thing you'll need to do is once you've chrooted apt-get install linux-kernel
[21:53] <cypha``> after i do: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` , it says No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed
[21:53] <Juest> Boohava: you already use it within the CD
[21:53] <cypha``> nick cypha
[21:54] <krw> i think i have problem with Xorg
[21:54] <llutz> cypha``: apt-cache policy linux-headers-$(uname -r) | grep -i insta
[21:54] <Juest> Boohava: you download an ISO
[21:54] <krw> ive got no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11
[21:54] <mfaroukg> edbian, when I press any button does not press and I see it pressing somewhere else
[21:54] <Juest> RevSpecies116: hey
[21:54] <Juest> ummm who got a client that says about away pepole??
[21:55] <mfaroukg> edbian, when on websites also it gives me problems and makes me use keyboard to get the place I want
[21:55] <mfaroukg> krw, same like this with you ?
[21:55] <Boohava> Juest: Oh, I read somewhere that was a tiny ISO of about 10mb that was only for net installation.
[21:55] <krw> mfaroukg: yes, the same
[21:55] <llutz> !mini | Boohava
[21:56] <cypha> llutz, says 2.6.38-8.42
[21:56] <llutz> cypha: already installed
[21:56] <Juest> !Alternate CD | Boohava
[21:56] <krw> mfaroukg: do you have a NVIDIA 9600GT ?
[21:57] <cypha> llutz, but when installing VBox guest additions, it said "the headers for the current running kernel were not found"
[21:57] <Boohava> ubottu: Awesome! Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
[21:57] <mfaroukg> edbian, no my laptop is HP Elitebook 6930p
[21:57] <Juest> cypha: try installing the headers again and run the installation again, what VBox are you using?
[21:58] <cypha> Juest, 4.0.8
[21:58] <Juest> hmmmm, who remebers about cludging packages? it was me and RevSpecies116
[21:58] <Juest> cypha: umm it should work
[21:58] <mfaroukg> krw, I think it is a software problem with 11.04, it was very fine with the 10.10
[21:58] <cypha> Juest, how do I reinstall headers?
[21:58] <Juest> sudo apt-get
[21:58] <llutz> cypha: ls -l /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[21:59] <EsmD> bastidrazor: i don't know name of this package, something from http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?mode=exactfilename&suite=natty&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=c%2B%2B is good?
[21:59] <krw> mfaroukg: yes
[21:59] <llutz> cypha: sudo aptitude reinstall linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[21:59] <cypha> llutz, /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-8-server
[21:59] <llutz> cypha: looks ok
[21:59] <mfaroukg> krw, are you using desktop?
[22:00] <krw> mfaroukg: yes, im on dekstop
[22:00] <Computer-Freak> hello guys
[22:00] <mfaroukg> edbian, what logs you want us to get for you?
[22:00] <edbian> Computer-Freak: hi
[22:00] <edbian> mfaroukg: I don't know what causes that issue.  I'm sorry! :P
[22:01] <edbian> No experience.  I've always seen the unplugging and plugging solves the issue
[22:01] <Juest> edbian: do you remember about RevSpecies116 and Juest's iusse a few days ago?
[22:01] <pbos> ikonia: Strange thing is, I've chrooted to that hard drive, but apt-get install linux-kernel gives nothing
[22:01] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[22:02] <ikonia> pbos: it's linux-image,
[22:02] <edbian> Juest: no... But you could remind me!
[22:02] <pbos> ikonia: thank you!
[22:02] <Juest> well, is a long story
[22:02] <mfaroukg> krw, what linux version you have ?
[22:02] <Juest> !linux-headers
[22:03] <Juest> !linuxheaders
[22:03] <krw> mfaroukg: ubuntu 11.04
[22:03] <edbian> Juest: Just give me a referesher
[22:03] <Juest> -.-
[22:03] <cypha> llutz, reinstalled it, and ran guest additions install again, but still told me that "The headers for the current running kernel were not found"
[22:03] <Juest> ok
[22:03] <Juest> edbian: may we PM?
[22:03] <cypha> (reinstalled header, that is)
[22:04] <Juest> cypha: now reinstall addons
[22:04] <Yami_Bas> hello :)
[22:04] <cypha> Juest, I did, and that's when it told me that the headers for the current running kernel were not found
[22:04] <Yami_Bas> can I ask someone a question about driver support on my notebook ^?
[22:04] <celthunder> Yami_Bas: hi
[22:04] <krw> it sucks
[22:04] <mfaroukg> krw, run this  ls -ltr /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-*
[22:04] <Yami_Bas> cuz im switching from windows hating it but cant find support for my soundcard... :(
[22:05] <Juest> cypha: run sudo update-grub and reboot the system, after that try to install addons
[22:05] <celthunder> Yami_Bas: what soundcard
[22:05] <Yami_Bas> creative x-fi surround 5.1 (it´s an USB soundcard)
[22:05] <krw> mfaroukg: what will happen ?
[22:05] <shomon> ebdian	hi again, it might be a separate issuebut the laptop won't come up either since I removed that ati driver.
[22:06] <shomon> ut
[22:06] <mfaroukg> krw, to get kernel version
[22:06] <Yami_Bas> http://us.store.creative.com/Sound-Blaster-XFi-Surround-5.1/M/B0017QQQAE.htm
[22:06] <Yami_Bas> that one
[22:06] <celthunder> Yami_Bas: i don't actually have one but it should work fine...
[22:06] <edbian> shomon: It won't come up?  How far does it get?  Do you see any errors?
[22:06] <shomon> it gets stuck on starting apache
[22:06] <Yami_Bas> well it does play 2.1 sound...
[22:06] <Yami_Bas> but no spdif support...
[22:06] <shomon> I will look in var log messages
[22:06] <Yami_Bas> or 5.1 over analog... ^
[22:06] <celthunder> Yami_Bas: if you want to check boot to a livecd and look if it sees the device as an audio card if not i can help you find the right kernel modules
[22:07] <edbian> shomon: How can you look in /var/log if the system never completed booting?
[22:07] <celthunder> Yami_Bas: if youre using pulse did you set the default output to spdif or 5.1
[22:07] <gohdan> Yami_Bas: neat looking device
[22:07] <Yami_Bas> i am on linux right now ;)
[22:07] <Yami_Bas> and it is detected ^?
[22:07] <Yami_Bas> whats pulse?
[22:07] <Yami_Bas> im new ^
[22:07] <pbos> ikonia: "cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)."
[22:07] <Yami_Bas> thanks gohdan
[22:07] <ikonia> pbos: you've not mounted /proc
[22:07] <celthunder> Yami_Bas: open pavucontrol and switch to output
[22:08] <ikonia> pbos: or /dev
[22:08] <Yami_Bas> not wanting to be a noob but i must lol
[22:08] <Nisstyre> yes
[22:08] <celthunder> Yami_Bas: from there you can set the default to 5.1 or 2.1 headphones spdif etc
[22:08] <Yami_Bas> how do i open pavucontrol :P?
[22:08] <shomon> it probably complete d booting, I can press ctrl alt fn and a f1 -f5 key and get into a terminal
[22:08] <pbos> ikonia: so I need to mount /proc under /other/proc and /dev under /other/dev, is that all?
[22:08] <shomon> for about 10 secs at a time
[22:08] <ikonia> pbos: what did the guide I gave you tell you to mount
[22:09] <celthunder> Yami_Bas: eh we all started somewhere...just open a terminal and type in pavucontrol should pop up
[22:09] <Yami_Bas> ite thanks :D
[22:09] <pbos> ikonia: sorry, skipped ahead, will read it now
[22:09] <Yami_Bas> celthunder:
[22:09] <Yami_Bas> it says its not installed...
[22:09] <ikonia> pbos: ok - and now my support ends, if I'm taking the time to help you and give you a guide that walks you through it, and you can't be bothered to read it and jump in, you're on your own
[22:10] <celthunder> Yami_Bas: sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[22:10] <Yami_Bas> ite
[22:10] <celthunder> Yami_Bas: or use whatever mixer you have
[22:10] <celthunder> Yami_Bas: the principle is the same
[22:10] <mfaroukg> why skype icon disappears from the GNOME panel some times and I have to restart to get it back?
[22:11] <celthunder> mfaroukg: did it crash?
[22:11] <waldir> hi all. I'm looking for an IM that allows connecting to various networks, and keeps the contact lyst synced (so that merged contacts, custom names, groups, etc are the same in every computer I use it). Is there anything that does this?
[22:11] <mfaroukg> celthunder, no it still works
[22:11] <cypha> Juest, headers for the current running kernel were still not found
[22:11] <mfaroukg> celthunder, I just can't see the icon
[22:11] <celthunder> waldir: trillian, weechat,
[22:11] <Yami_Bas> alright
[22:12] <Yami_Bas> well got pavucontrol now ;)
[22:12] <Yami_Bas> and it works ;)
[22:12] <womp> How can I stop ubuntu 10.04 from scaling my cpu?
[22:12] <Yami_Bas> i guess gonna experiment some thanks :D
[22:12] <Yami_Bas> i should go to bed but mweeeh...
[22:12] <celthunder> Yami_Bas: ok got your 5.1?
[22:12] <Yami_Bas> not sure yet :P
[22:12] <waldir> celthunder: thanks :) btw do know if they can connect to facebook, gtalk, skype and msn? those are the ones I'm interested in
[22:12] <celthunder> lol kk
[22:13] <celthunder> waldir: i don't use either but theoretically any xmpp client will work for msn facebook and gtalk...skype....fails so idk what protocol they use...i'd say sip...which you can get clients that do xmpp/sip ...
[22:13] <gohdan> waldir: pidgin
[22:14] <celthunder> waldir: do you want syncing even when ones offline during the initial chat?
[22:14] <waldir> gohdan: Ithanks but that fails my first requirement (sync contact lists)
[22:14] <waldir> celthunder: not sure what you mean
[22:14] <waldir> I just don't want to lose my customizations when I move to another computer
[22:14] <celthunder> waldir: eh contact list syncing pretty much forces xmpp server no?
[22:14] <mfaroukg> celthunder, the skype is running in background and I can't get it out
[22:15] <Computer-Freak> guys, i have a problem in my asus netbook.. i am using Gnome Desktop and the icon on the right site of the screen wich you can close the computer or restart it is dissappear
[22:15] <Yami_Bas> celthunder: i sent you a small pm :)
[22:15] <celthunder> Yami_Bas: kk sec
[22:15] <Yami_Bas> alright just saying take your time ;)
[22:15] <celthunder> Computer-Freak: right click and readd it
[22:15] <womp> voice check can you see me?
[22:15] <celthunder> womp: no
[22:16] <womp> celthunder: hah thanks
[22:16] <waldir> celthunder: forces xmpp server?
[22:16] <lorddelta> Hey, I have a problem with my Ubuntu Desktop, thought I might as well ask to see if its a fixable problem before reporting it as a bug. Often, when minimize my windows, or use the "Show Desktop" command (I have it bound to the same key combo as in Windows), I cannot actually access my desktop, right clicking and such brings up context menus for programs that are supposedly hidden.
[22:16] <lorddelta> Is there any way to fix this?
[22:16] <Computer-Freak> yes but it's not the menu that you select many choices
[22:17] <Narigo> Hi there, this computer just halted while browsing (worked on the same sites before..) - where can I find information about what happened/what log-files would be good to check and to track down what caused the problem?
[22:17] <celthunder> waldir: well...ok theres probably other ways but the only way i've ever seen all contact lists merged at once was when i merged my msn gtalk and yahoo with an XMPP or XMMP server (not sure which it actually is )
[22:18] <pbos> ikonia: was under troubleshooting, didn't get that far, but I got that part working now, so thanks for helping out. Sorry for not reading carefully enough.
[22:18] <waldir> celthunder: wait maybe I'm not explaining correctly :)
[22:19] <waldir> celthunder: I don't need to merge/sync one IM's contact list to another (say msn/gtalk)
[22:19] <waldir> what I want if for the IM client to remember when I tell it that john@hotmail.com is the same guy as john@gmail.com
[22:19] <waldir> and that I want to see it on my list as "Johnny"
[22:20] <waldir> makes sense?
[22:20] <celthunder> oh kk yeah...pick any client and just sync configs then
[22:20] <waldir> not sure what you mean. for instance how'd you do that in pidgin?
[22:21] <waldir> the configs afaik are kept in a local config file
[22:21] <cypha> is anyone familiar with installing guest additions on a virtualized ubuntu (server edition)?
[22:21] <cypha> it's telling me that the headers for the current running kernel were not found
[22:22] <Jemt> Hi. I have just installed the game Auteria. After installing libsdl1.2-dev I got sound working, but it's "clicking" (noisy). Can someone help me ?
[22:22] <Jemt> It's using OpenAL
[22:22] <hytekk> anyone have experience in pfsense?
[22:22] <celthunder> waldir: unison/ocassional saving of config to server and dl it back on other one.....
[22:24] <celthunder> cypha: are they installed
[22:24] <Jemt> Where is Ubuntu's default sound module located? module.so something
[22:24] <cypha> celthunder, yes
[22:24] <cypha> celthunder, I even reinstalled it
[22:24] <celthunder> cypha: does it know where they are
[22:24] <cypha> and rebooted
[22:24] <cypha> celthunder, i dunno
[22:24] <cypha> how can I check that?
[22:25] <cypha> it was able to give me a version
[22:25] <gohdan> hytekk:  this is an ubuntu support channel.
[22:25] <dtsund> I've got one brief question...
[22:25] <waldir> celthunder: that's rather inconvenient :( digsby for example does this automatically. I was wondering if there's anything on linux that takes care of that for me
[22:26] <hytekk> ghodan: sorry, ..... :(
[22:26] <cypha> llutz, Juest, any other ideas?
[22:26] <dtsund> My computer's currently configured for dual-boot, with GRUB in charge of booting.  If I nuke my Linux partition from within Windows and reinstall from a DVD, will that reinstall GRUB properly and let me boot correctly?
[22:26] <hytekk> gohdan: sorry.... :(
[22:26] <prower> hello again :> i'm trying to install the sun java jre so that i can run minecraft properly...i followed the ppa instructions on the community documentation site, but there appears not to be any version available for natty :<
[22:26] <gohdan> hytekk: ##pfsense
[22:27] <hytekk> gohdan: thanks, but noone in that channel is of much use.... thanks anyway :)
[22:28] <celthunder> cypha: where's it looking it should tell you when it fails
[22:29] <lorddelta> hytekk: I don't have any experience in pfsense, thanks for the distro though. http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Tutorials though if you have questions I guess.
[22:29] <cypha> celthunder: http://i.imgur.com/P6u0M.png
[22:30] <gohdan> im sure they are of some use if you wait around long enough or ask proper questions. nevertheless, we are unable to assist you with that distro
[22:30] <sw0rdfish> whats the command to install ALL perl modules?
[22:30] <celthunder> cypha: so...do you have X installed?
[22:30] <cypha> celthunder, no
[22:30] <cypha> i'm on ubuntu server
[22:31] <hytekk> lorddelta: thanks !
[22:31] <sburwood1> I've gotten past a couple hurdles - the Belgian ID card reader has found the ID card.  I'm trying to do something official with the Belgian government where my card needs to be recognized by the site.  I've some message about SSL not renogiating with something. What's the next step?
[22:31] <royale1223> Dictd server not working. Why
[22:32] <nosmelc> Is there a firewall turned on by default in Ubuntu 11.04?
[22:32] <gohdan> royale1223: !gq
[22:32] <usr13> royale1223: ?  You mean DHCP?
[22:32] <gohdan> !gq | royale1223
[22:32] <iceroot> nosmelc: no
[22:32] <celthunder> cypha: then i suspect not building the X module would be because as ittold you it's not installed...and you don't need it
[22:32] <royale1223> usr13: dictd, dictionary server
[22:33] <usr13> royale1223: Ok sorry
[22:33] <cypha> celthunder, ok, I just thought not finding the "header" was an error
[22:33] <nosmelc> iceflatline: thanks
[22:34] <nosmelc> iceroot: oppps thanks]
[22:34] <iceroot> nosmelc: :)
[22:34] <celthunder> cypha: it says it "could be the reason" not that it is :) the real reason was quite apparent :)
[22:35] <cypha> celthunder, gotcha, thanks :)
[22:35] <waldir> celthunder: how do i get trillian to work on ubuntu? wine?
[22:35] <usr13> royale1223: sudo apt-get install dictd
[22:35] <Uboss> hi everyone
[22:36] <Uboss> i forgot my password for my nick :P
[22:36] <Rollin> hi all
[22:36] <royale1223> usr13: have it installed, but not running.
[22:36] <kenthree> firefox and some other programs won't start on this fresh 11.04 install, any probable cause? i'm not familiar with linux (chromium starts up fine)
[22:36] <Rollin> nomodeset did not fix my 11.04 error
[22:36] <Uboss> Well, I installed Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS because I wanted to, today! and after finishing the installation my Ubuntu stuck on first reboot and i turned off my pc using the power button and then turned it on again. Is that any problem?
[22:37] <usr13> royale1223: dpkg --reconfigure dictd
[22:37] <Rollin> anyone else successfully fix a blk screen login on 11.04 causeed by the recent updates? thanks
[22:37] <celthunder> waldir: probably i just use it on my phone
[22:37] <celthunder> Rollin: any errors in the logs
[22:38] <celthunder> kenthree: like they just don't open or ?
[22:38] <Computer-Freak> hello again, i am using quickSynergy for my Netbook and my Laptop where i have ubuntu desktop on both. and i put the details for the client, click execute and nothing. any help??
[22:38] <waldir> celthunder: ok, thanks
[22:38] <Rollin> celthundar: ill have to check, i saved the logs via recovery and did not notice any glaring problems
[22:38] <Space76> chi può darmi una mano su amule
[22:38] <Space76> ?
[22:38] <xskydevilx> "Startup applications" doesn't show up under  System > Preferences in Natty.
[22:38] <kenthree> celthunder: yeah the icon in the launcher area will flash a few seconds (like usual) but nothing opens. and I dont see any process in the sys monitor
[22:38] <gohdan> !it | Space76
[22:39] <celthunder> kenthree: open firefox from terminal what's it quit with?
[22:39] <Space76> thank you
[22:39] <Computer-Freak>  hello again, i am using quickSynergy for my Netbook and my Laptop where i have ubuntu desktop on both. and i put the details for the client, click execute and nothing. any help??
[22:39] <Uboss> If anyone can give me a simple answert I will appreciate it..
[22:39] <celthunder> Rollin: try using just vesa for a video driver?
[22:40] <usr13> royale1223: service --status-all | pastebinit
[22:40] <celthunder> Uboss: what was your problem sorry missed it
[22:40] <royale1223> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/619419/
[22:40] <Rollin> celthunder: gfx worked perfectly before the last update manager update w/ati offical 11.5 drivers
[22:40] <Uboss> Well, I installed Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS because I wanted to, today! and after finishing the installation my Ubuntu stuck on first reboot and i turned off my pc using the power button and then turned it on again. Is that any problem? no worries celthunder..
[22:41] <kenthree> celthunder: typing "firefox" in the terminal opened it.. weird
[22:41] <gohdan> Computer-Freak: please refrain from immediately re-asking your question
[22:41] <royale1223> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/619420/
[22:41] <celthunder> Uboss: no? i wouldn't recommend repeatedly doing tht though
[22:41] <Rollin> calthunder: and this error has happened twice to me, again today on a new ubuntu install that was working (aka this has bricked two seperate ubuntu installs)
[22:42] <fez> hai
[22:42] <celthunder> Rollin: ati drivers fail....with that said...go back to the ones that worked then
[22:42] <cypha> how can I cancel an install?
[22:42] <Uboss> celthunder, I did it just once after finishing successfuly installed ubuntu. I was in a screen with I/O errors. stuck
[22:42] <Computer-Freak> gohdan: sorry but can you help me?
[22:43] <celthunder> Uboss: is your hdd failing s.m.a.r.t tests?
[22:43] <celthunder> cypha: ctrl c
[22:43] <Computer-Freak> anyone can help me please?
[22:43] <celthunder> cypha: or kill the process
[22:43] <Uboss> celthunder, i don't know am newbie on some things.
[22:43] <dtsund> Anybody know anything about GRUB?
[22:43] <iceroot> !grub | dtsund
[22:43] <iceroot> dtsund: also the guys in #grub
[22:43] <cypha> celthunder, can I check if anything was installed or downloaded already?
[22:43] <Rollin> celthunder: the offical ati drivers did/do work. i had perfect desktop gfx and no reboot errors till the last week worth of software updates
[22:43] <dtsund> Ah, didn't know they had their own channel.  Thanks
[22:43] <celthunder> cypha: /var/cache?
[22:43] <gohdan> Computer-Freak:  no. but, if youre patient someone that is able to assist you may come along. re-ask your question every 30 minutes or so
[22:44] <usr13> royale1223:  sudo /etc/init.d/dictd start
[22:44] <royale1223> dtsund: ask your question.
[22:44] <cypha> celthunder, not sure what I'm looking for in there
[22:44] <Rollin> celthunder: afasik the ati drivers did not update, something else broke my system (2x)
[22:44] <Computer-Freak> gohdan: ok thanks!
[22:44] <Computer-Freak> anyone please?
[22:45] <edbian> Computer-Freak: What is the issue again?
[22:45] <usr13> royale1223: service --status-all | pastebinit
[22:45] <royale1223> usr13: it says "started ok". But doesnt actually run.
[22:45] <Computer-Freak> edbian:  hello again, i am using quickSynergy for my Netbook and my Laptop where i have ubuntu desktop on both. and i put the details for the client, click execute and nothing.
[22:45] <Uboss> celthunder, am just asking if my ubuntu will work nice now. yes or no simply ;)
[22:45] <dtsund> royale1223: My computer's currently configured for dual-boot, with GRUB in charge of booting.  If I nuke my Linux partition from within Windows and reinstall from a DVD, will that reinstall GRUB properly and let me boot correctly?
[22:45] <iceroot> royale1223: please use "sudo service servicename start" instead of /etc/init.d/"
[22:45] <celthunder> Uboss: uhm if you got I/O error's id check the hdd but otherwise yes
[22:45] <edbian> Computer-Freak: One need to be the server and one needs to be the client.  Which is the server?
[22:45] <Uboss> celthunder, thanks very much! I don't know how to check my HHD :P
[22:45] <royale1223> iceroot: used both. dont work.
[22:46] <Computer-Freak> edbian: client is my laptop and client my netbook
[22:46] <royale1223> http://paste.ubuntu.com/619423/
[22:46] <Uboss> celthunder, is it easy to tell me how? just give me a source
[22:46] <edbian> Computer-Freak: No.  One needs to be a server
[22:46] <celthunder> Uboss: google s.m.a.r.t. testing for hdd
[22:46] <Computer-Freak> edbian: my netbook is the server
[22:46] <royale1223> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/619424/
[22:47] <edbian> Computer-Freak: Alright. Lemme see the config file for synergy.
[22:47] <Uboss> celthunder thanks a lot man! have a nice day/night
[22:47] <royale1223> dtsund: no
[22:47] <edbian> Computer-Freak: in pastebin
[22:47] <Computer-Freak> edbian: i use the GUI
[22:47] <lorddelta> godhan: Don't mean to be chatty, is there an easy timer application to set up to remind me when 30 minutes is up (maybe +/-5)?
[22:47] <celthunder> Rollin: did xorg update? any results if you use startx to start x as your user
[22:47] <iceroot> royale1223: nmap is only checking standard ports
[22:47] <lorddelta> godhan: for ubuntu
[22:47] <cypha> how can I copy and paste to and from my CL (i'm on ubuntu server edition)?
[22:47] <edbian> Computer-Freak: so?  I need a pastebin of the server config file.
[22:47] <iceroot> royale1223: use nmap -p port localhost
[22:48] <royale1223> dtsund: If you reinstall windows it will remove grub and install windows bootloader.
[22:48] <Computer-Freak> edbian: how can i find it please?
[22:48] <edbian> Computer-Freak: Didn't you create it?
[22:48] <Guest8093> just installed ubuntu server 11.04,  all I have is command line,  how do I get to view graphic interface ?
[22:48] <dtsund> royale1223: No, I mean reinstall Linux.
[22:48] <iceroot> Guest8093: why installed server-edition if you need a gui?
[22:48] <celthunder> cypha: pipe whatever to a file?
[22:49] <edbian> Computer-Freak: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/running.html
[22:49] <Juest> Guest8093: go install XOrg
[22:49] <celthunder> cypha: and then inputit back into whatever you need with <
[22:49] <dtsund> (I'm just paranoid about this because it'll briefly leave me without a bootloader at all.)
[22:49] <cypha> celthunder, it removed the temp files when I cancelled
[22:49] <iceroot> Guest8093: if you want gnome use "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[22:49] <usr13> royale1223:  Not sure what I'm supposed to be looking for there.  What port is it supposed to listen on?
[22:49] <edbian> Guest8093: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:49] <cypha> celthunder, for copying and pasting?
[22:49] <iain80> Hi, do people use seahorse for general password management? or is there an alternative that's more UI-fancy?
[22:49] <Juest> iceroot Guest8093 doesn't have X
[22:49] <Guest8093> thanks  I will try that
[22:49] <gohdan> iceroot: gnome on a server? -_-
[22:49] <iceroot> Juest: ubuntu-desktop is pulling x
[22:49] <edbian> Juest: ubuntu-desktop will install it
[22:49] <celthunder> cypha: it's kind of awork around but it works if you don't have your mouse enabled in the terminal
[22:49] <iceroot> gohdan: gui on a server?
[22:49] <Juest> ah
[22:50] <iceroot> gohdan: but he wants a gui and gnome is a gui
[22:50] <Juest> does xscreensaver works as root?
[22:50] <iceroot> Juest: dont run your gui as root
[22:50] <cypha> celthunder, I do have my mouse enabled
[22:50] <Computer-Freak> edbian: you mean file server or web?
[22:50] <celthunder> cypha: try middle click then
[22:50] <cypha> no middle click on my laptop
[22:50] <nemor> i can not speak on #archlinux
[22:50] <Juest> iceroot: i use 11.04 desktop....
[22:50] <edbian> Computer-Freak: .... synergy server.   What are you trying to do?
[22:51] <celthunder> nemor: register your nick and auth
[22:51] <iceroot> Juest: doesnt matter, dont run the desktop as root
[22:51] <ikonia> nemor: that's not something we can help with, ask in #freenode
[22:51] <Juest> why?
[22:51] <iceroot> Juest: there is no single reason and its the stupiest thing you can do with a computer
[22:51] <Computer-Freak> edbian: to use one mouse and one keyboard on 2 screens
[22:51] <nemor> i have installed burg
[22:51] <iceroot> Juest: everything runs as root, browser, mailclient and so on
[22:51] <gohdan> iceroot: twm works too. gnome is DE thats going to pull in all kinds of stuff
[22:51] <nemor> i am happy
[22:51] <edbian> Computer-Freak: That's synergy.  Read the link I gave you:  http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/running.html
[22:52] <Computer-Freak> edbian: okay thanks
[22:52] <nemor> grub2 on natty narwhal must have some menu display problem
[22:52] <nemor> it was a variable on grub.cfg i think
[22:52] <Juest> why is stupid? i prefer it mainly to avoid the notifications that require root
[22:52] <EastDallas> what's the big deal?  I always install xcfe or gnome when I set up a LAMP or file server.  It only runs when I need it, and some things are just easier with a gui.
[22:52] <iceroot> Juest: i told you why it is stupid
[22:52] <Juest> sudo, gksudo prompts
[22:52] <iceroot> Juest: everything runs as root, e.g. your browser
[22:52] <ikonia> Juest: do what you want - but we won't support it
[22:53] <celthunder> nemor: Juest lol i am all for using root terminals...but running X as root i hope you get shot
[22:53] <Juest> ok
[22:53] <Juest> bye
[22:53] <ikonia> bye
[22:53] <celthunder> er sorry nemor just had you tagged by accident
[22:53] <royale1223> usr13: 2628 i think. Its open and dictd running.
[22:53] <nemor> ok
[22:53] <iceroot> isnt gdm blocking root by default?
[22:53] <royale1223> dtsund: 2628 is open
[22:53] <ikonia> iceroot: let him find out - not supporting it
[22:53] <celthunder> iceroot: don't see why it would
[22:53] <iceroot> celthunder: because its stupid and the biggest security whole you can have
[22:53] <ikonia> celthunder: it is, root login is disabled by default
[22:53] <gohdan> iceroot: it blocks port 6000 but not root
[22:54] <nosmelc> How do I set up a Ubuntu Desktop box so that the user can't do "sudo" using their log in password?  Sorry if that's a dumb question :/
[22:54] <Juest> no, iceroot, gdm ask for passwords and for using root you need to set a password, root is enabled
[22:54] <ikonia> Juest: it's not - but good luck, let stop discussing it as we don't support that config here
[22:54] <ZykoticK9> nosmelc, remove the user(s) from the admin group
[22:54] <celthunder> nosmelc: visudo
[22:54] <Juest> ok
[22:54] <iceroot> Juest: hm, never heard that root-login is enabled by default in gdm
[22:54] <nosmelc> ZykoticK9: ohh ok
[22:55] <lsv> nosmelc: keep at least one user with sudo power
[22:55] <nemor> it doesn't look very dumb, nosmelc
[22:55] <MagicJ> nosmelc: there is a sudoers file that you must be listed in to be allowed sudo
[22:55] <celthunder> iceroot: gdm is a login manager...it doesn't care as long as you use a valid login (theoretically)
[22:55] <iceroot> celthunder: it blocks uid=0
[22:55] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, anyone in the admin group can use sudo
[22:55] <Flannel> MagicJ, nosmelc: No, the admin group is listed in the file, and you need to be a member of the admin group
[22:55] <Juest> root login is not enabled, just it allows you to login as root (you must have a password for root and you type root in Other...)
[22:55] <iceroot> celthunder: or better it blocks everything below 1000
[22:55] <celthunder> ah
[22:56] <celthunder> i don't use gdm...i'm lazy..xdm works just fine for me
[22:56] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9: are you sure - that certainly did not used to be the case and would be different t Debian
[22:56] <nemor> you can esclude user from all groups
[22:56] <Juest> iceroot.....
[22:56] <Juest> ^^^^^
[22:56] <iceroot> Juest: its not enabled, i was looking it up and please stop using your desktop with root
[22:56] <nemor> but one
[22:56] <Juest> OK
[22:56] <NictraSavios> Would someone mind looking at my /etc/fstab and making and suggestions as to what to change in regards to the  the "'defaults", what paramaters should I give them?"
[22:56] <nemor> not groups
[22:56] <NictraSavios> It is here http://paste.pocoo.org/show/401331/
[22:56] <nemor> wait
[22:56] <Juest> i have defaulted my desktop as root :D
[22:56] <ikonia> NictraSavios: defaults are fine
[22:56] <nemor> that's wrong Juest
[22:56] <edbian> Juest: That's a really bad idea.
[22:56] <celthunder> NictraSavios: defaults,noatime,user_xattr for the /home
[22:56] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, yes I'm sure.  And actually it is the same in Debian, admin group is in sudoers
[22:57] <celthunder> NictraSavios: didn't actually look at your current settings just the ones i use
[22:57] <Juest> celthunder: better to use gdm or wdm, these DMs allow to choose session
[22:57] <iceroot> Juest: as i said that is the stupiest thing you can do
[22:57] <NictraSavios> celthunder, Thank you, Can you take a look?
[22:57] <Juest> :'(
[22:57] <nemor> esclude user from as much user priviliges as appropriate
[22:57] <Computer-Freak> edbian: to find my hostname i typed hostname on terminal or is the name that i named my computer?
[22:57] <ikonia> NictraSavios: the defaults are fine
[22:57] <celthunder> Juest: lol if i wanat to change it i'd set it in xinitrc
[22:57] <iain80> Hi, do people use seahorse for general password management? or is there an alternative that's more UI-fancy?
[22:57] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9: Yuck - not at you - but at that change - the sudoers file is quite enough but I guess this is the sort of change that someone thought was good
[22:57] <nemor> first untoggle "administer the system" ?
[22:57] <tolmun> right way to setup root account is without password?
[22:57] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, sorry on Debian it is the sudo group - so a little differetn
[22:58] <NictraSavios> ikonia, I heard you. But options are good aswell, Futher security can be gained.
[22:58] <edbian> Computer-Freak: hostname is the name you get from the hostname command AND it is the name of your computer.  hostnames will not work if you don't have a DNS server.  I suggest you use IP addresses.
[22:58] <jamesstanley> I recently got a new graphics card (an nvidia one) and I am running the nvidia proprietary driver. I am on amd64. When I try to play DVD's I have sound but no picture. Can anyone help?
[22:58] <ikonia> NictraSavios: why do you want to change the default options /
[22:58] <iceroot> tolmun: right way is to use sudo
[22:58] <Juest> DM choose is better than xinitrc, celthunder
[22:58] <ikonia> NictraSavios: give me 1 reason
[22:58] <celthunder> tolmun: lol that's the worst idea i've ever heard of ...have a password at least
[22:58] <celthunder> Juest: talk to me when you aren't using X as root...
[22:58] <Juest> why?
[22:58] <tolmun> ok disable root account?
[22:58] <iceroot> Juest: your system is not supported here
[22:58] <NictraSavios> ikonia, Because i wrote the fstab myself. I know from other user discussing it that setting some as other things , you can gain security and performance
[22:58] <Juest> BUAAAAAAHHHHHH
[22:58] <iceroot> tolmun: its diabled by default
[22:58] <ikonia> tolmun: it's disabled by default
[22:59] <iceroot> !root | tolmun
[22:59] <celthunder> tolmun: or put just an x in /etc/passwd for root pw
[22:59] <ikonia> NictraSavios: the defaults are "fine" more so as the majority of yours are NTFS mounts
[22:59] <Computer-Freak> edbian: you mean on screen 1 and screen 2 to put the IP adresses right? not the hostname. section: screens
[22:59] <Computer-Freak>      screen1:
[22:59] <Computer-Freak>      screen2:
[22:59] <Computer-Freak> end
[22:59] <Computer-Freak> section: links
[22:59] <Computer-Freak>      screen1:
[22:59] <FloodBot1> Computer-Freak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:59] <Computer-Freak>            right = screen2
[22:59] <celthunder> tolmun: do the same in shadow
[22:59] <NictraSavios> ikonia, 3/7 are. 1 is vfat.
[22:59] <Flannel> celthunder, tolmun: `sudo passwd -l root` (that's an L)  Don't modify /etc/passwd manually.
[22:59] <nemor> the mysterious root route
[22:59] <Maxx640> Hi there, can anybody tell me if there is a way of getting rid of gnumeric in xubuntu in the application menu after having uninstalled it with the software center?
[22:59] <ikonia> NictraSavios: so over %50 is non native, the defaults are fine
[22:59] <EastDallas> OK, now running X as root -- not such a good idea.  I came in on the middle and thought y'all were just talking about having a gui installed on a server machine.  Which I think is fine as long as you set it up so that you have to manually start X.
[22:59] <edbian> Computer-Freak: Actually.  In that config file, hostnames work fine.  Sorry for the confusion!
[22:59] <edbian> Computer-Freak: Do not paste in the channel.  Use pastebin
[22:59] <tolmun> thx
[23:00] <NictraSavios> ikonia, I am by no means looking for "fine", Plus, This is my v1, I plan to reinstall with seperate /boot , /usr and /var
[23:00] <celthunder> EastDallas: lol yeah juest thinks it's a brilliant idea..i'll just lol when he gets fucked over
[23:00] <nemor> Maxx640: there is a way.
[23:00] <ikonia> NictraSavios: ok - what do you want to gain, and I'll tell you what options to change
[23:00] <ikonia> NictraSavios: what do you want to change
[23:00] <Maxx640> Nemor: what is it?
[23:00] <Computer-Freak> edbian: so i will put the hostname and not the IP. if i put the IP it's wrong?
[23:01] <NictraSavios> ikonia, I know what each paramater dose. Ive alredy read the manuals. I want to know if someone thinks i "should" for good reasons, not because "the defaults are fine"
[23:01] <edbian> Computer-Freak: I'm not sure IP will mess it up. Looking at mine I have hostnames and I know I don't have a DNS server.  All I can see is that hostnames work.
[23:01] <ikonia> NictraSavios: I think you should not change anything as if you know what the parameters did and you knew how to use them, you would not be asking
[23:01] <sleek> Afrix, lol
[23:01] <celthunder> NictraSavios: can i get your link agin sorry
[23:01] <NictraSavios> ikonia, I alredy do. I am unsure if I should.
[23:01] <NictraSavios> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/401331/
[23:01] <celthunder> thanks
[23:01] <nemor> try    System Preferences Main Menu
[23:01] <ikonia> NictraSavios: I also think that the file systems are known to you, eg: are you running a mail service, in which case noatime would be wise, but not wise if you're not etc, so only YOU can know
[23:02] <NictraSavios> ikonia, What about for maximium security.
[23:02] <ikonia> NictraSavios: what about it ?
[23:02] <NictraSavios> ikonia, What would i change for that.
[23:02] <Computer-Freak> edbian: it does matter if hostname in both PCs is the same?
[23:02] <iceroot> NictraSavios: turn off the computer fpr maximum security
[23:02]  * gohdan luanches X as root in a vm. lets see how this turns out :P
[23:02] <celthunder> NictraSavios: readonly everything
[23:02] <celthunder> ?
[23:02] <iceroot> gohdan: stop that here please
[23:02] <ikonia> NictraSavios: depends on your system and how you want to use it, as I've said, the defaults are fine unless you have something specific
[23:03] <NictraSavios> celthunder, I do have specifics. I am unable to say them
[23:03] <ikonia> NictraSavios: then we can't help you
[23:03] <nemor> where is gnumeric? accessories?
[23:03] <ikonia> NictraSavios: unless you tell us your specifics, we can't give you specific advice
[23:03] <Maxx640> would that be settings manager?
[23:03] <Maxx640> there is nothing called system preferences
[23:04] <NictraSavios> Alight, What if You 100% know that someone will get access to your computer in a unprivleged account. How do you minimise there ability to destroy
[23:04] <nemor> what os distro you have
[23:04] <cypha> what's something safe I can do to test if my password in fact changed?
[23:04] <zelo_> hi mike
[23:04] <Maxx640> xubuntu
[23:04] <nemor> os version
[23:04] <ikonia> NictraSavios: you controlt he file system permissions, not the mount points
[23:04] <cypha> without logging out and in
[23:04] <nemor> version
[23:04] <nemor> i have gnome
[23:04] <zelo_> Guest76566, hi mike
[23:04] <NictraSavios> ikonia, Alright. So there is nothing i can do in fstab to aid?
[23:04] <Computer-Freak> edbian: it says me  no configuration available
[23:04] <iceroot> cypha: open a ssh-connection
[23:04] <ikonia> NictraSavios: no
[23:04] <Maxx640> 4.8.0
[23:04] <NictraSavios> ikonia, thank you.
[23:04] <NictraSavios> Bye
[23:04] <cypha> iceroot, dunno how
[23:04] <iceroot> cypha: or login into tty1 (ctrl + alt + f1)
[23:05] <Guest76566> zelo_, hi
[23:05] <nemor> i don't know fro xfce
[23:05] <Maxx640> that is xubuntu 11.04
[23:05] <iceroot> cypha: ssh user@host
[23:05] <cypha> iceroot, i'm on ubuntu server
[23:05] <Maxx640> ok thanks for trying
[23:05] <iceroot> cypha: ssh or tty2 (ctrl + alt + f2)
[23:06] <nemor> try to find analagous
[23:06] <cypha> iceroot, still no
[23:06] <nemor> :)
[23:06] <nemor> system manager
[23:06] <djiefo> Hi, someone know how to downgrade my compiz
[23:06] <nemor> try
[23:06] <cypha> there is no easier way to see if my changed password actually changed?
[23:06] <th0r> cypha:just open a terminal and do 'su <yourusername>
[23:06] <cypha> i just need something with sudo
[23:06] <cypha> thanks th0r
[23:06] <nemor> ubuntu is so smooth and easy
[23:06] <cypha> th0r, ok, the issue is that my password is not changing
[23:06] <nemor> i am just afraid it will crash all of a sudden
[23:06] <iceroot> cypha: what is not easy about tty2 or ssh?
[23:06] <cypha> i'm doing sudo passwd
[23:07] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[23:07] <gohdan> iceroot: fair enough.
[23:07] <Loaf> easy like sunday morning?
[23:07] <boodieman> how do you turn off file indexing in 11.04
[23:07] <iceroot> cypha: that is changing the root-password
[23:07] <nemor> like sunday morning with a rich breakfast
[23:07] <th0r> cypha: don't use sudo...you should be able to change YOUR password without sudo
[23:07] <Emmanuel_Chanel> My ext4 /home partition becomes full fast. How can I help that? To switch ReiserFS or so can help?
[23:07] <aeon-ltd> why does not authorized appear when using external media formatted on other OSes? when tring to access them
[23:07] <cypha> th0r, without sudo, it makes me pick a longer password
[23:07] <nemor> better not to be too content
[23:07] <djiefo> Hi, someone know how to downgrade my compiz?
[23:08] <iceroot> djiefo: downgrade is not supported
[23:08] <djiefo> because the 9.4 version is unstable
[23:08] <cypha> th0r, so by doing passwd, am I not changing my user's passwd? and instead changing the root's passwd? cuz I thought my current user was the root user
[23:08] <iceroot> is 9.04 still supported?
[23:08] <Pr070cal> hi just installed gnome3, im having some problems where the screen wont refresh
[23:08] <Seveas> djiefo, 9.04? Upgrade Ubuntu instead...
[23:08] <iceroot> !jaunty
[23:08] <zzzzzzzzzzzz> I am trying to use proxychains with firefox but I get this error: Can't locate proxychains.conf: Permission denied, but the file exists
[23:08] <nemor> Emmanuel_Chanel: why does it become full
[23:09] <aeon-ltd> djiefo: uninstall, compile or get a deb for a version you want then install that - OR just update ubuntu
[23:09] <juniorbisono> Question: I have setup syslog to display all mess via tty2 how do I remove the login prompt from tty2? if thats possible so all I got it everything just hitting that screen...
[23:09] <iceroot> djiefo: upgrade to a supported version
[23:09] <ikonia> zzzzzzzzzzzz: look at the permissions on it
[23:09] <djiefo> not ubuntu, compiz
[23:09] <th0r> cypha: there is no root password in ubuntu.
[23:09] <iceroot> djiefo: your ubuntu is out of life and not supported anymore
[23:09] <cypha> th0r, so then it should change the passwd for "cypha"
[23:09] <cypha> but it's not
[23:09] <Seveas> juniorbisono, edit /etc/init/tty2.conf
[23:09] <Unknown_Monkey> Hey does anyone know a good way to hook up multipul monitors
[23:09] <zzzzzzzzzzzz> ikonia, i set it to 777
[23:09] <djiefo> iceroot,  it's xubuntu 11.04
[23:10] <ikonia> zzzzzzzzzzzz: is it in the right place, is it being used in a chroot for example
[23:10] <iceroot> djiefo: you said its 9.04
[23:10] <djiefo> It's all about compiz
[23:10] <Seveas> Unknown_Monkey, use a dual-head videocard or multiple cards :)
[23:10] <juniorbisono> hmm... Seveas let me take a look... Thanks!
[23:10] <llslim> hello has anyone else have trouble with "ping" running idle and not timing out with the following command: "ping 192.168.56.1 -c 2 -W 2"?
[23:10] <zzzzzzzzzzzz> it's in the right place, i know that proxychains checks a few different spots and it works with other programs.  I am not sure what you mean by chroot
[23:10] <Unknown_Monkey> Seveas: Thanks how about the software config part
[23:10] <boodieman> Anyone know how to turn off file indexing in 11.04??
[23:10] <nemor> home directory becoming full should not be direct consequence of fs. i hope
[23:11] <naptastic> Hi. I have Ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop and my desktop. My laptop has a volume control in the top-right that I can wheel over to change volume; the desktop doesn't. How do I add it?
[23:11] <zzzzzzzzzzzz> ikonia, it's in the right place, i know that proxychains checks a few different spots and it works with other programs.  I am not sure what you mean by chroot
[23:11] <ikonia> zzzzzzzzzzzz: how can it work with other programs when it's for that program
[23:11] <Seveas> Unknown_Monkey, system -> preferences -> monitors
[23:11] <djiefo> 0.9.4 compiz is unstable in my system i try to downgrade it back to 0.8.6
[23:11] <Seveas> llslim, nope, works for me...
[23:11] <juniorbisono> Seveas, I dont have that config,...
[23:11] <zzzzzzzzzzzz> ikonia, i mean proxychains works with other programs other than firefox..
[23:11] <Seveas> juniorbisono, which version of Ubuntu?
[23:11] <iceroot> llslim: why not using it without -W 2?
[23:11] <DevilSolution> tip for the guru's, if someone is having issues installing a package and inside the error code it flags anything to do with high def colours or icons, it could be related what mode the user is logged in as (i.e. ubuntu (no effects))
[23:11] <Unknown_Monkey> Seveas: Thanks
[23:12] <nemor> what are your hardware resources dijefo
[23:12] <iceroot> llslim: also the manpage says there are other parameters needed too if using -W
[23:12] <ikonia> zzzzzzzzzzzz: it maybe looking in the wrong place if firefox takes the path as from it's current working directory
[23:12] <juniorbisono> I really dont know
[23:12] <Seveas> juniorbisono, run this command: lsb_release -a
[23:12] <juniorbisono> I modded the lsb_release file :D
[23:12] <juniorbisono> sorry..
[23:12] <celthunder> DevilSolution: ok  lol i take it you just had a problem with that
[23:12] <Seveas> juniorbisono, heh
[23:12] <zzzzzzzzzzzz> ikonia, ok thank you i'll check it out
[23:12] <DevilSolution> celthunder, yes indeedy XD
[23:13] <aeon-ltd> why does "not authorized" appear when trying to access external media formatted on other OSes?
[23:13] <frozenfoxx> I have a kubuntu 10.04 system I've just upgraded to 11.04 that now does not boot
[23:13] <iceroot> aeon-ltd: ask #otheroses
[23:13] <celthunder> DevilSolution: :) thanks for the warning
[23:13] <frozenfoxx> Grub complains that the UUID doesn't exist.
[23:13] <djiefo> nemor, i can everything in ccsm but animated add-on. i'm at downgrading my compiz to fix the problem cause now 3 days on this problem and nothing works
[23:13] <DevilSolution> hope it helps some lost soul ;)
[23:13] <iceroot> aeon-ltd: or do you mean ubuntu is saying that?
[23:13] <xskydevilx> What's the terminal command to open Startup Applications Preferences?
[23:13] <juniorbisono> Seveas, I got this 2.6.30.9 #1 SMP Tue Dec 1 21:51:08 EST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:13] <aeon-ltd> iceroot: yes ubuntu
[23:13] <frozenfoxx> If I tell it to boot with root=/dev/sda5 or /dev/sda7 it complains it doesn't find it and does not boot
[23:13] <djiefo> nemor, my hardware is nvidia 9600gt
[23:13] <juniorbisono> if that helps..
[23:13] <iceroot> aeon-ltd: what format are the drives?
[23:13] <cypha> how do I view a .log file?
[23:14] <fran> z
[23:14] <ikonia> cypha: open it in a text editor
[23:14] <iceroot> cypha: less file.log
[23:14] <nemor> how much ram
[23:14] <aeon-ltd> iceroot: its not a drive, it's a SD card formatted to FAT16
[23:14] <nemor> compiz is demanding
[23:14] <fran> ñ
[23:14] <Seveas> juniorbisono, ah that smells old. Does /etc/inittab exist? If so, comment out the tty2 line
[23:14] <djiefo> nemor, 1g
[23:14] <boodieman> Anyone know how to turn off file indexing in 11.04?
[23:14] <DevilSolution> anybody know hoe well compiz is working on unity? i read everywhere its not very compatible so is it worth DLing?
[23:14] <aoxi> my friend isnt sure what she did but now when she goes to open a location from the places menu, it opens in her web browser. where would i go to change this behavior? i checked in preferred applications and file browser is still set to nautilus
[23:14] <juniorbisono> I got inettd.d and init.d
[23:14] <Seveas> boodieman, remove all traces of tracekr and beagle
[23:14] <nemor> i had a similar sort of problem frozenfoxx
[23:14] <iceroot> boodieman: you mean the journal of ext4?
[23:14] <lsv> xskydevilx: gnome-session-properties &
[23:14] <juniorbisono> Seveas, I got inettd.d and init.d
[23:15] <nemor> similar but not identical
[23:15] <MagicJ> hey guys, I have a system that I just installed from a known good memory stick - all looks good except that it doesn't boot - almost like the MBR did not get written - during install all looks good - then afrer the "setting up users" it just goes to the live CD log in - any idea?
[23:15] <damnhustle> lol
[23:15] <damnhustle> wow
[23:15] <damnhustle> this connected me fast
[23:15] <llslim> Seveas: thanx then it must be a virtual box issue.
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> i'll be bach
[23:15] <lsv> ps
[23:15] <womp> I'll be mozart
[23:15] <Emmanuel_Chanel> nemor: I don't know... I've been thinking of buying a new PC with a new HDD. But I didn't expect that the HDD on this Ubuntu PC would become full sometime at once...
[23:15] <Seveas> juniorbisono, what does this command give you: dpkg -S /sbin/init
[23:15] <lsv> opps
[23:15] <fran> m-j tuñ-.hýj................................tm  l.j.r hhl.gngñf,jhnfkhotkgol,ljhghmgkjm,fgmhmmmmmmmmhhhmmhlf,gllskbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbsd
[23:15] <Sanctusorium> When I try to connect to my natty VPS server, some program called unity is yelling at me and telling me to run in ubuntu classic.
[23:15] <ikonia> fran: please don't do that
[23:16] <Seveas> fran, please kick your cat off your keyboard
[23:16] <Sanctusorium> How can I do that from the command line?
[23:16] <nemor> without downloading any especially big file
[23:16] <Sanctusorium> Or, rather, add it to my VNC config?
[23:16] <nemor> it might be a log file
[23:16] <juniorbisono> Seveas, upstart sbin/init
[23:16] <Sanctusorium> I just need to know the command - I can't seem to find it >.<:
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[23:16] <Seveas> juniorbisono, ok, so /etc/init/ should exist. Can you paste the contents of that directory on pastebin.com
[23:16] <FloodBot1> fran: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:16] <fran> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[23:17] <juniorbisono> can someone kick that guy off... Thanks!
[23:17] <boodieman> Seveas, not installed as far as I can tell
[23:17] <juniorbisono> thanks ikonia
[23:17] <Seveas> boodieman, ok, dpkg -L upstart
[23:17] <Seveas> and pastebin the results of that
[23:17] <LuckyStrike> hello you all
[23:18] <lsv> hello
[23:18] <djiefo> nemor,  1g ram, 512 graph card. 2.3 go cpu
[23:18] <juniorbisono> Seveas, let me take a look around....
[23:18] <nemor> maybe you can try to untoggle some comopiz features
[23:19] <nemor> or see if there is some collision with google earth
[23:19] <boodieman> Seveas, nothing in there for those
[23:19] <nemor> but i don't know
[23:19] <djiefo> i dont have google earth
[23:19] <Juest> ok, i stopped using X as root
[23:19] <nemor> well done Juest
[23:20] <Juest> and now, desktop-file-utils can't process
[23:20] <nemor> lol
[23:20] <Juest> i was trying to purge gnome-screensaver
[23:20] <Juest> and i use xscreensaver instead
[23:21] <Juest> nemor,
[23:21] <nemor> we meant you use your system as XXUser everyday
[23:21] <nemor> you can do su for special purposes
[23:21] <Juest> what? why?
[23:21] <Juest> well
[23:21] <nemor> like changing permissions to some difficult directories
[23:21] <Juest> sudo, you mean
[23:22] <ZykoticK9> nemo, sudo - not su!
[23:22] <Juest> but yes
[23:22] <nemor> sudo
[23:22] <nemor> sometimes i had to login as root
[23:22] <nemor> from another consol
[23:22] <ZykoticK9> nemo, "sudo -i" for that
[23:22] <Juest> su, i still have the root password, so now i can su properly
[23:22] <nemor> sometimes sudo does not work
[23:22] <philipballew> su can be a easy way to not have to type sudo all the time
[23:22] <Juest> su never works if you have a blank root password
[23:23] <nemor> right
[23:23] <[deXter]> Hi all
[23:23] <Juest> and better yet,
[23:23] <Juest> sudo sh
[23:23] <Juest> that's for root term
[23:23] <[deXter]> I'm unable to set Chromium as my default browser; even update-alternatives doesn't seem to have any effect.
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> Juest, don't use that
[23:23] <nemor> time to man sudo?
[23:23] <Juest> so froget about sudo sudo
[23:23] <ffmjf> hi guys.  i'm having an issue where there's no vga output at all after POST until the GUI login.  i'm pretty sure it's a grub display settings issue but i can't quite resolve it
[23:23] <Rollin> dexter use "preferred apps"
[23:24] <iceroot> Juest: your loginshell is not sh so sudo sh is not good and we told you to stop that stupid root actions
[23:24] <nemor> sudo -i
[23:24] <Juest> [deXter]: read what Rollin says
[23:24] <[deXter]> Rollin: O.o Oh, never knew that existed!
[23:24] <nemor> interesting
[23:24] <[deXter]> Wonder why update-alternatives didn't work..
[23:24] <ffmjf> i suppsoe my first question is after i've made an edit to /etc/default/grub ... is there something i need to run, to make it stick?
[23:24] <nemor> thks, ZykoticK9
[23:25] <Juest> ffmjf: run sudo update-grub
[23:25] <Rollin> dexter, juest.. ya those settings are really hidden. glad you fixed it!
[23:25] <adrian15> ffmjf: Try adding nosplash to kernel parametres or removing splash and quiet parametres.
[23:25] <naptastic> ffmjf, sudo update-grub
[23:25] <iceroot> ffmjf: sudo update-grub
[23:25] <naptastic> lol
[23:25] <dijonyummy123> anyone notice nautilus crashes, just quits sometimes, like when you're copying files or something, once in awhile, randomly
[23:25] <naptastic> jinx ;-)
[23:25] <Dakrav> what room should i join or help with using terminal?
[23:25] <iceroot> !bug | dijonyummy123
[23:25] <[deXter]> Rollin, Juest Thanks for your help, that was fast. :)
[23:25] <iceroot> Dakrav: #bash
[23:25] <Juest> :D
[23:25] <ffmjf> awesome thank you.  i think setting it to the default 640x480 will solve this but i was missing the last bit
[23:25] <ffmjf> time to reboot and try it.  thanks all!
[23:25] <Juest> ffmjf: set 640x480x16
[23:26] <Dakrav> iceroot: thanks
[23:26] <Dakrav> join #bash
[23:26] <juniorbisono> Seveas, all I found was etc/securetty/ I can play with that for now,....
[23:26] <iceroot> Dakrav: /join #bash
[23:26] <Dakrav> lol, forgot that, thanks
[23:26] <ffmjf> Juest: as in, GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480x16 in /etc/default/grub ?
[23:26] <Juest> yes
[23:26] <ffmjf> thanks a ton.  i'm 99% sure this will fix it
[23:27] <phrosty_> I just installed ubuntu 11.04, is there a way to have the menu bar as a drop down menu rather than all the links on the side?
[23:27] <Juest> ffmjf or go sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg or /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:27] <dijonyummy123> hard to file cuz hard to know why, it just terminates. then i just restart nautilus, perform same operation and its ok. happens maybe a couple or more times a week
[23:27] <Juest> and froget the do not edit this file line
[23:28] <nit-wit> phrosty_, the classic desktop menu will do it, choose ot at login.
[23:28] <nemor> or eat a ham BURG er
[23:28] <ZykoticK9> Juest, don't make (or suggest) changes to menu.lst - that file is overwritten whenever update-grub2 is run.
[23:28] <Sanctusorium> Any one know how I can start Ubuntu Classic mode via terminal?
[23:28] <nit-wit> *it
[23:28] <phrosty_> Oh ok so it's at the login screen nit-wit?
[23:28] <Juest> wondering why desktop-file-utils fails to do anything.... i get error code exit 1
[23:28] <nit-wit> phrosty_, yeah choose you name then the dropdown for desktops
[23:29] <nemor> what is desktop-file-utils
[23:29] <nit-wit> Sanctusorium, you have to log out of X
[23:29] <Juest> is a package that nautilus and some of gnome apps use
[23:30] <Sanctusorium> nit-wit: I am logging in via VNC.  Should I just remove the X Start up command?
[23:30] <Guest8093> ok I installed sudo apt-get instal ubuntu-desktop,  it is working now but low in system isn't displaying graphics well,  video does not refresh quickly,  so old info from prior window is still present
[23:30] <Guest8093> in=end
[23:30] <nit-wit> Sanctusorium, I haven't used vnc.
[23:30] <Juest> Sanctusorium: you have to log in using recovery console, is a terminal, closing it ends the session
[23:30] <Sanctusorium> nit-wit: Okie!  Thank you! ;3
[23:31] <Sanctusorium> Juest: How should I go about that?
[23:31] <Juest> about what Sanctusorium?
[23:31] <nemor> Juest it could be permissions on .desktop files
[23:31] <nemor> ?
[23:31] <Juest> Sanctusorium: yes, as long you can ssh and run it, and better not removing it, maybe vnc fails if no X is there
[23:31] <nit-wit> Guest8093, are you running natty?
[23:31] <celthunder> Sanctusorium: in your .xinitrc ck-launch-session gnome-session
[23:31] <nemor> have you changed anything major
[23:32] <nemor> groups users permissions
[23:32] <Juest> nemor, yes it manages .desktop
[23:32] <Guest8093> don't know if running natty,  install server ubuntu 11.04  no windows graphics
[23:33] <nemor> try to check permissions on desktop directory
[23:33] <Juest> Guest8093: you are running natty, (natty= 11.04)
[23:33] <Juest> nemor: it manages that and makes .desktop runables as shortcuts i think
[23:33] <nemor> is it in your home directory?
[23:33] <Juest> ummm
[23:34] <Guest8093> no unless server 11.04 is natty
[23:34] <Juest> Guest8093: you are right, you are running natty server
[23:34] <Sanctusorium> celthunder: So, what do I do with that?  Is it a command to run?
[23:34] <ZykoticK9> !natty | Guest8093
[23:35] <nemor> i mean /home/"username"
[23:35] <Juest> i have troubles with desktop-file-utils, how do i solve it?, any dobuts? i am on natty 11.04
[23:35] <Juest> desktop
[23:36] <Juest> nemor, i don't understand what are you talking about
[23:36] <Guest8093> yes I installed natty, just got command line,  installed ubuntu desktop but graphics is poor,  refresh rate not correct
[23:36] <nemor> do
[23:36] <koffeehaus> j
[23:36] <Juest> Guest8093: so why you installed a natty server if you want GUI????
[23:36] <nemor> ctrl +alt+ t
[23:36] <nemor> cd
[23:36] <Juest> why?
[23:37] <nemor> ls -l d*
[23:37] <Juest> lol¿
[23:37] <celthunder> Sanctusorium: that sets your default session to gnome-session with console policy kit ...just type startx
[23:37] <nemor> D*
[23:37] <Sanctusorium> celthunder: Okie.
[23:37] <Guest8093> I need a server at office ,  and graphic interface is better for me to connect to other computers on network,  I am below a newbie
[23:38] <nemor> wrong
[23:38] <ikonia> Guest8093: use the desktop version
[23:38] <iceroot> Guest8093: ubuntu server edition is the normal ubuntu without a gui and with a pae kernel
[23:38] <ikonia> Guest8093: the desktop version can act as an excellent server
[23:38] <ZykoticK9> Guest8093, you can add services to the desktop version just fine
[23:38] <usr13> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[23:38] <nemor> just ls -l
[23:38] <usr13> Guest8093:  ^^^
[23:38] <ikonia> nemor: why do you keep saying random commands ?
[23:39] <nemor> lol
[23:39] <nemor> i am training help desk
[23:39] <ikonia> nemor: can you please stop saying random commands in this channel please
[23:39] <Juest> Guest8093: yes, you can still host things with desktop edition, repos have every package for every bundle of ubuntu (server desktop kubutu lubuntu xubuntu, etc)
[23:39] <nemor> they r not random
[23:39] <Guest8093> ok  I will try that,  thought server edition would be better  I had version 9.04  server and upgraded to higher versions,  that works fine
[23:39] <basilfaulty> how can I format a partition as fat 32 and make it dos bootable?
[23:39] <heffay> I need some help figuring out why my ubuntu box suddenly wont connect to a shared folder on my network
[23:40] <ikonia> nemor: they are random to this channel, please stop
[23:40] <nemor> Juest has a problems with a nautilus application
[23:40] <Juest> nemor: i found .desktop files that correspond to system shortcuts in /usr/share/applications . why are you asking to ls?
[23:40] <Juest> no
[23:40] <Juest> not nautilus
[23:40] <Juest> is a package
[23:40] <usr13> basilfaulty: formatting and making a disk bootable are two different tasks
[23:40] <nemor> ok
[23:40] <nemor> well
[23:40] <heffay> can someone help me troubleshoot this?
[23:40] <ikonia> !enter | nemor
[23:40] <Juest> installation, not .desktop
[23:40] <basilfaulty> well the formating seems starightforward
[23:41] <Juest> nemor: want to PM?
[23:41] <basilfaulty> but I need to put the dos files on there too
[23:41] <usr13> basilfaulty: But you can reformat it with command mkdosfs
[23:41] <basilfaulty> can u use dd to write a floppy image onto a hd partition?
[23:41] <basilfaulty> aah :)
[23:42] <nemor> no Juest
[23:42] <basilfaulty> sounds good
[23:42] <usr13> basilfaulty: Yes
[23:42] <Guest8093> thank for you suggestions  bbl
[23:42] <nemor> ikonia was right
[23:42] <SuperTeece> Hi all
[23:42] <Juest> how i can fix desktop-file-utils error in any apt-get that involves it?
[23:42] <th0r> basilfaulty: you can't make a dos partition bootable...there is only one mbr and if you have both linux and dos on the same drive linux (grub) installs to the mbt
[23:42] <usr13> basilfaulty: dd if=/mnt/floppy/ of=/mnt/disk/
[23:42] <heffay> Anyone? This should be a pretty basic feature and easy to troubleshoot...
[23:42] <iceroot> Juest: depending on the error
[23:42] <ikonia> Juest: it's already installed, why are you trying to install it
[23:43] <SuperTeece> Sounds like there may already be a grub discussion going?
[23:43] <basilfaulty> will it work with an iso? eg a win install?
[23:43] <ZykoticK9> usr13, i'm not sure your dd command is correct.  should that be a device and not a mount point?
[23:43] <LuckyStrike> hi again, Lucky here, I have a question:
[23:43] <usr13> ZykoticK9: YOu are absolutely right.
[23:43] <ZykoticK9> usr13, s/should/shouldn't/
[23:43] <Juest> i just try to purge gnome-screensaver (i use xscreensaver) and it came up an error when dpkg tires to do --purge with desktop-file-utils
[23:43] <basilfaulty> th0r: I'm hoping grub will find the other partition after i update-grub
[23:44] <ikonia> Juest: why are you doing this ?
[23:44] <usr13> basilfaulty: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/dev/sdb1
[23:44] <ikonia> Juest: it's linked into the desktop, it takes up about 16 of disk space, why are you trying to remove it
[23:44] <ikonia> 16k
[23:44] <lukecrowe> For a VPS with 512mb RAM, would your recommend Ubuntu 11.04 or 10.04?  32 or 64 bit?
[23:44] <basilfaulty> how about dd if=/an.iso of=/dev/sdb1 ?
[23:44] <ikonia> lukecrowe: the LTS version is always a good choice
[23:44] <Juest> i just want to use xscreensaver not gnome-screensaver
[23:45] <ikonia> Juest: that's fine, use it, but you don't need to uninstall gnome-screensaver to do that
[23:45] <Juest> and i have iusses with desktop-file-utils
[23:45] <basilfaulty> I'm going to try it :)
[23:45] <ikonia> Juest: desktop-file-utils is already installed,
[23:45] <Juest> yes,
[23:45] <ikonia> Juest: there is no need for you to try to install it
[23:45] <lukecrowe> ikonia:  Cool, thanks. That's what I've heard.
[23:45] <celthunder> has anyone noted how much faster booting is with e4rat?
[23:45] <basilfaulty> does a drive need to be formated before I dd to it?
[23:45] <IsmAvatar> If I want ubuntu 11.04, should I download from ubuntu.com or is there a more recent build that I should use?
[23:45] <ikonia> IsmAvatar: ubuntu.com
[23:45] <IsmAvatar> ikonia: thanks
[23:45] <usr13> basilfaulty: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/dev/sdb1  #Where /dev/fd0 is actually the floppy and /dev/sdb1 is actually the drive partition you want to place the image.
[23:45] <genewitch> what is the name of a gnome applet that will show capslock and numlock status?
[23:46] <nemor> 32 or 64 bit depending on your machine
[23:46] <celthunder> basilfaulty: no
[23:46] <heffay> I need some help figuring out why my ubuntu box suddenly wont connect to a shared folder on my network
[23:46] <LuckyStrike> My laptop is dying, my HDD shows nothing but internal errors, so just to use internet and stuff, I have to run a LiveCD ubuntu now(10.04), but it takes ages! to boot, because, ubuntu keeps trying to detect and get ready for running the hard drive (ATA). I read somewhere, that you can blacklist devices from the boot sequence. Could
[23:46] <usr13> heffay: nfs?
[23:46] <basilfaulty> if I dd a small file onto a large partition.. does the size of the partition change?
[23:46] <Juest> i don't try to install it, i just get troubles when dpkg tires to configure desktop-file-utils on any install/uninstall/purge of any package that haves to configure desktop-file-utils
[23:46] <ZykoticK9> lukecrowe, with only 512MB ram it is unlikely that 64bit will be any benefit... but it's possible.
[23:46] <heffay> no its a samba share on a debian box
[23:47] <nemor> ah it is vps
[23:47] <basilfaulty> guessing not
[23:47] <heffay> the only computer that refuses to connect to it is ubuntu
[23:47] <Juest> ok ikonia?
[23:47] <ikonia> LuckyStrike: you're going to struggle as it needs a hard disk to swap out on to for the livecd
[23:47] <nemor> i don't know vps
[23:47] <lukecrowe> ZykoticK9:  Cool, thanks.
[23:47] <LuckyStrike> you tell me how and if I can tell ubuntu on start not to bother about HDD?
[23:47] <lukecrowe> bye.
[23:47] <ikonia> Juest: you can't remove that, the whole desktop depends on it
[23:47] <usr13> heffay: Why not just use nfs?
[23:47] <ikonia> Juest: why are you messing with the desktop packages, they are all needed to run, stop trying to purge things
[23:47] <th0r> LuckyStrike: that should be in the setup in the first few seconds of bootup...before linux even starts to load
[23:47] <Juest> i am not trying to remove it
[23:47] <usr13> heffay: Is this a wired connection?
[23:47] <ikonia> Juest: what are you trying to remove
[23:47] <heffay> usr13, that's not really a solution
[23:48] <heffay> wired and wireless clients all over the house
[23:48] <usr13> heffay: Why  not?
[23:48] <Juest> just dpkg tires to configure it and fails
[23:48] <Juest> WHY?
[23:48] <th0r> LuckyStrike: when the computer first starts it should say something like 'F2 for setup'
[23:48] <ikonia> Juest: no it doesn't, it trys to configure it if you tell it to do something, what are you telling it to do
[23:48] <heffay> the debian box hosting the share is wired though
[23:48] <LuckyStrike> ikonia, th0r, yes, dmesg says it's on beggining, but how can I force it not to bother about HDD?
[23:48] <Juest> sudo apt-get purge gnome-screensaver
[23:48] <linda_> do someone have the driver for Wireless broadcom M94311?
[23:49] <ikonia> LuckyStrike: it needs one
[23:49] <Juest> it says that dpkg exits with error 1
[23:49] <ikonia> Juest: I've just told you to NOT remove it
[23:49] <th0r> LuckyStrike: when you press F2 you will be taken to a setup screen where you can tell it to look first at the CD
[23:49] <ikonia> Juest: why are you trying to remove it after I've told you not to
[23:49] <heffay> why not? because im not going to set up a whole new share and filesystem JUST because ubuntu doesn't want to play nice. macs and windows and other debian boxes connect just fine
[23:49] <Juest> not desktop-file-utils is there as not fully installed or removed
[23:49] <Juest> now*
[23:49] <LuckyStrike> th0r - it's not what I'm asking about....
[23:49] <ikonia> Juest: I told you not to remove gnome-screensaver, why are you telling it to remove it
[23:50] <LuckyStrike> ikonia, so there is no way?
[23:50] <pietr101> Hello, how do i recursively convert all file extensions to lowercase?
[23:50] <ikonia> pietr101: write a script and use "tr" to change them
[23:50] <ZykoticK9> Juest, "sudo apt-get -f install" to try fixing any currently broken packages
[23:50] <jmcantrell> is it possible to change the sizes with the compiz grid plugin?
[23:50] <Juest> froget about the gnome-screensaver uninstall ,now desktop-file-utils is there as not fully installed or removed
[23:50] <Juest> ZykoticK9: that doesn't fix it
[23:50] <ikonia> Juest: no - you've broke it by trying to remove dependencies from it
[23:50] <ikonia> Juest: stop trying to remove parts of the gnoem desktop
[23:51] <Juest> it fixes nothing
[23:51] <Juest> now i have to install the meta package again -.-
[23:51] <linda_> Where do I find the driver for Broadcom M 94311 Wireless?
[23:51] <heffay> So, does anyone have ideas on how to troubleshoot this?
[23:51] <ikonia> Juest: that will teach you to stop trying to remove parts of the gnome desktop
[23:51] <ikonia> !broadcom | linda_
[23:52] <pietr101> ikonia: i'm not very familiar with regular expressions and tr. any easy/fast way for no pro?
[23:52] <LuckyStrike> ikonia, so there is no way?
[23:52] <ikonia> pietr101: it's pretty straight forward, a recursive loop, pipe through tr, then rename
[23:52] <ikonia> LuckyStrike: how much ram do you have
[23:52] <heffay> if i smbclient -L Host i get (Error NT_STATUS_HOST_UNREACHABLE)
[23:53] <ikonia> heffay: can't get to that host, network/firewall/service not running
[23:53] <heffay> ikonia, what?
[23:54] <ikonia> heffay: "NT_STATUS_HOST_UNREACHABLE" it can't talk to that service over the network for some reason
[23:54] <heffay> right
[23:54] <heffay> every other computer in the house can connect just fine. its ONLY the ubuntu computer throwing that error
[23:54] <ikonia> so start debugging it, I've just given you some common causes
[23:54] <heffay> im trying to figure out why
[23:54] <LuckyStrike> ikonia 1 GB
[23:54] <ikonia> LuckyStrike: search for livecd boot params to use a ram disk instead of a hard disk, I'm sure it's possible, 1Gb should be enough
[23:55] <heffay> so the service is there, and working properly
[23:55] <ikonia> LuckyStrike: although I don't know why you don't just take the hard disk out if it's broke
[23:55] <ikonia> heffay: ok - so work on the comms between the two hosts
[23:55] <heffay> im trying to figure out what the problem on the ubuntu side is
[23:55] <iain80> Hi, what password managers are people using on ubuntu? is seahorse the best, or would something like keepass be a better choice?
[23:56] <tieinv> uses keepass
[23:57] <th0r> keepassx is a cross-platform fork of keepass if I remember correctly
[23:57] <heffay> what do you suggest ikonia?
[23:57] <ikonia> heffay: checking the comms between the two hosts
[23:57] <heffay> would you mind elaborating?
[23:57] <heffay> i dont know what you mean by that
[23:57] <LuckyStrike> ikonia about removing hard disk, I was thinking about it, but I remember trying that some time ago and ubuntu was also looking for the HDD and the boot time was also much longer (havn't been trying this now). Would you think it would help?
[23:57] <ikonia> heffay: sure, do some tests to make sure the two hosts can see each other on the required ports, telnet is a good test to hit ports
[23:58] <ikonia> LuckyStrike: if you're machine won't boot due to a dead hard disk, get a new disk
[23:58] <th0r> ikonia: I thought both the usb and live-cd would leave the hd untouched
[23:58] <ikonia> th0r: it needs one / likes one to swap out the cd,
[23:59] <LuckyStrike> ikonia it's a long story, but I don't think it's just a disk(I need a new laptop, sadly...).