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mcwhello03:14
mcwI have a question03:14
mcwneed help please03:15
mcwwith just one thing03:15
mcwhow do I enable compiz permanently03:15
mcwI tried compiz --replace that gets it working but only untill you restart03:16
mcwis anyone even on?03:17
mcwAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!03:18
mcwlol03:18
mcwmcw,jumps off cliff due to frustration with  Unity03:19
mcwfuck it!03:19
Keith_LassiterHello. I am in the process of installing Ubuntu and need a little assistance please.05:56
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: hey... are you currently actually installing?05:57
Keith_LassiterI downloaded the file and am attempting to mkae the CD05:57
holsteinAH, ok05:58
Keith_Lassitermake*05:58
holsteinyou'll need to actually make a copy05:58
holsteinusing the downloaded iso as the source*05:58
Keith_LassiterAccording to the directions it tells me I downloaded the ubuntu11.04 from the main page.. and now I have a zip file05:59
Keith_LassiterSo I inzipped05:59
Keith_Lassiterunzipped05:59
holsteinshouldnt be a zip... where did you get it?05:59
Keith_LassiterThe file that is.. LOOL05:59
Keith_LassiterAlso downloaded Infra Recorder05:59
Keith_LassiterBUt can't determine which file I am supposed to use to create the CD06:00
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: im not convinced you have the correct file06:00
Keith_Lassiterhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download06:00
holsteinit should be one file, a something.iso06:00
Keith_LassiterThat is what it said when it was downloading.. then when it finished, it came out as a zip file.. Kina wierd actually06:01
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: it might be recognized as something that can be unzipped06:01
holsteinbut, it should have been ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso06:01
holsteinnothing weird about it06:01
holsteinnot ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.zip06:01
holsteinwhat did you download? ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso ?06:02
Keith_LassiterI just clicked the link where it said download06:02
Keith_Lassiterit showed me the iso file while it was downloading06:02
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: right, look in the /download directory06:02
holsteinand tell me if you have ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso or not06:02
holsteinand if not, what do you have?06:02
Keith_Lassiterubuntu-11.04-desktop-i38606:03
Keith_LassiterjZip archive file (.iso)06:03
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: right, just dont unzip it06:03
holsteinyou have ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso downloaded, and thats what you burn to CD06:04
Keith_Lassiterok, so don't unzip it and create the CD with the zip file?06:04
holsteinyou make a copy of the CD using the ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso as the source06:04
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: its not a zip file, but yes06:04
Keith_Lassiterok, it says its a jzip archive file06:04
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: jzip recognizes it as an iso archive, and is offering to extract it06:05
holsteinbut, thats not what you want to do06:05
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: if you extracted it, you can just throw all of that away, and work with the ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso06:06
Keith_LassiterOK, another quick question.. the file size is showing 701MGB and the CDs only have 700 in sace.. SHould I use a DVD instead?06:06
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: you can*06:06
holsteinit *should* be cd sized06:06
holsteini would probably try it, and you should get an error if its too big06:07
holsteinits likely your OS is estimating its size06:07
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: the only reason *not* to burn to DVD is if you cant boot DVD's on the machine in question06:08
Keith_LassiterGotcha .. ok, I am burning the CD as we speak06:08
Keith_LassiterThe idea her eis to try it before I install it06:08
holsteinyup, try it live06:09
holsteinsee how everthing works, hardware wise06:09
Keith_LassiterSo will this thing run all my windows aps and such?06:09
holstein?06:10
holsteini dought it06:10
Keith_LassiterI have been reading on it and it said something about replaceing my current operating system with htis.06:10
holsteinyou can ask the vendors if they support linux though06:10
holsteinanyone can write software for linux/ubuntu06:10
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: yup, thats up to you06:10
holsteinbut, running your current windows apps is no the goal06:11
holsteinthe idea is, you probably will find you dont need the windows apps in question*06:11
Keith_LassiterSo there should be Linux/Ubuntu aps to replace what I use now then.06:11
holsteinwe have WINE though, which can run a lot of windows apps with varying degrees of success06:12
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: there will be, you just need to learn how to use them06:12
holsteinOR, look around for linux verions of what you need06:12
holsteinor get the windows apps to run06:12
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: for most cases, what comes default in ubuntu is plenty06:13
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: i think its important to realize that its not windows06:14
holsteinnor is it trying to replace or emulate windows06:14
holsteinubuntu is a fully functional operating system that any company can choose to write software for and support06:14
holsteinweather or not it works for you is totally up to you06:15
Keith_LassiterI am finding that out. It appears as though at best I will be running it alongside Windows for some time.06:15
holsteinbut, i think its realistic to go in expecting something differnt06:15
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: lots of folks do06:15
holsteindual boot*06:15
Keith_LassiterI have webisites and sales programs that may still require Windows for some of the functions to work correctly. A lot of PHO06:16
Keith_LassiterPHP06:16
holsteinyup06:16
holsteinthats the P in LAMP :)06:16
holsteinanyways... do what makes you feel comfortable06:17
Keith_LassiterI appreciate your hel[. Gonna try it out and see how it works06:17
holsteinplease do, ask whatever you need :)06:17
Keith_LassiterI was told by my Service support people from HP that it may even be able to ready my HD that recently crashed06:17
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: how bad?06:18
holsteinis it still spinning?06:18
Keith_LassiterWindows is saying "No hard drive present".. LOL06:18
holsteinhttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec is what i use06:18
holsteinas long as the drive can still spin*06:18
Keith_LassiterHaven't taken it out of the laptop. It under warranty and getting ready to ship it off to HP06:19
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: well, you wont get the old HD back anyways06:19
Keith_LassiterSo my last backup was a few weeks agoi. Been working out of town.06:19
Keith_LassiterIf I am lucky, I can save myself a lot of work.06:19
holsteini use photorec either in ubuntu or from a live cd like http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/06:20
Keith_LassiterRight, that's why I am going to try to retrieve the info before I ship it to HP.06:20
holsteinKeith_Lassiter: you can see if ubuntu sees it, but, if its clicking and dying, photorec is probably the best chance06:20
holsteini usually get it going, and just let it 'chew' on the data for as long as it needs06:21
Keith_LassiterIs photorec on the ultimatebootCD alredy?06:21
holsteinyeah, partedmagic is on there06:22
holsteinhas photorec/test disk and all kinds of handy HD tools (and other goodies)06:22
holsteinsomeone mentioned this at our LUG the other day http://www.hackfromacave.com/katana.html06:23
Keith_LassiterI will try it.. I have the Blackboot CD which has always doen a good job for me.. but it didn't see the HD06:24
Stockholm_Angeltala du svenska?07:29
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ubot2Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du i #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se07:33
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johnnylephi, i'm fairly new to ubuntu and this is my first time on irc, so apologies in advance for breaking any conventions.  i need to install a specialist mindmapping software, named Sciplore, but it isn't in any repository. i've downloaded it as a zip file, but get stuck there. does anybody know how to install such things?11:37
geirhaThere's no recipe for such things, apart from extracting the archive somewhere, and look for a README or INSTALL file or similar.11:46
geirhaThe site where you found that file might also have documentation on how to proceed.11:47
johnnylepthanks geirha, there is some info on the site, but it's too complex for me. i have zero coding skills and little IT skill. i need a dummies guide or someone competent to talk me through it.11:50
geirhaOk, so you got the Linux Binaries (.zip) from here? http://sciplore.org/software/sciplore_mindmapping/#download11:52
johnnylepthanks again geirha.  yes, i got it from there11:54
geirhaOk, create a folder somewhere, perhaps in your homedir or one the desktop. Call it SciPlot or something (whatever you feel is best).11:55
geirhaDoubleclick the zip file, click extract and choose your folder as the place to extract the archive.11:55
geirhaThe folder you just created that is.11:56
geirhaNow you should see three files named SciploreMindMapping with extensions .bat, .exe and .sh.11:57
geirhaThe .bat and .exe files are for windows users, ignore them, right-click on SciploreMindMapping.sh and choose Properties, then in the Permissions tab, mark the checkbox to make it executable.11:58
geirhaAfter that double-clicking SciploreMindMapping.sh should start the program.11:58
geirhaAre you with me, or did I lose you at some point? :)12:00
johnnylepso sorry, i've just switched to 11.04 and am trying to work through the new UI....i'm not enjoying it.12:01
johnnylepcan you give me 10 mins to catch up pleae?12:02
geirhaAh, I'm sticking with 10.04 myself. Haven't tried the new UI at all.12:03
geirhaMaybe someone else here can translate my instructions to the new UI (if they differ)12:04
johnnylepi'm hoping it's the same once past the UI. this new UI (unity?) is taking a lot of getting used to. should be back with you in 5 mins though12:05
johnnylepgeirha, you're a genius. it's all working. thank you so much.12:08
geirha\o/12:09
LafturCan someone help me with an issue on bootup?12:09
coalwaterLaftur, there's a rule here that says don't ask to ask, just ask :D or something like that lol12:10
coalwateranyway what's ur problem12:10
LafturI'm trying to boot from a USB drive or a CD, and it just freezes on a purple loading screen.12:11
coalwaterit takes a little bit to load, but how much rams do u have on ur computer?12:12
Laftur4 Gigabytes.12:13
coalwaterhow long have u tried to leave it before u give up and turn it off?12:13
LafturI've left it for around five minutes.12:14
coalwateris it just a purple screen? or is there an ubuntu spalsh screen?12:14
LafturIt says Ubuntu, and there are some dots below, indicating some sort of action.12:14
LafturI assumed it wouldn't take too terribly long to load, but do you think I should try leaving it for longer?12:15
coalwaterit loads the whole system to the ram only, it takes a bit12:16
geirhaIt shouldn't take five minutes on a machine with 4GiB RAM though, so it does sound like something's wrong.12:17
coalwateru sure the cd is fine? no scratches or any thing?12:17
geirhaIs the machine frozen? Does hitting caps lock toggle the caps lock led on your keyboard?12:17
LafturOh, yes.. It's brand new... and I also tried booting from a USB drive: same thing happens.12:18
Lafturit's not frozen... there's even a cursor that I can maneuver with my trackpad.12:18
geirhaMost likely it's having some trouble with the graphics hardware12:19
LafturI've got a Radeon HD 4200 series chipset.12:20
geirhaWhen you boot with the cd, you'll see a purple screen for a few seconds, it has an image of a man and a keyboard. If you hit some key at that point, you should get a boot menu.12:20
geirhaIn the boot menu you can try to select something like safe graphics mode12:21
LafturYes, and I instructed it to load from the disc/usb device.12:21
geirhaThere are more options, which you access with the F1-F6 keys12:21
Lafturoh... that sounds like a good idea, I'll try that, and get back to you.12:21
Guest62964having trouble  installing the server edition 11.04. The install hangs after the disk partitioner window pops up and leaves me with a purple screen, any suggestions?16:03
Stockholm_Angel1if i am running a intel atom 4 core processor should i use 36 or 64bit intaller?16:04
Stockholm_Angel1brb16:04
holsteinGuest62964: there are some options in the installer that i would suggest trying, but that could be a bad install image too16:04
holsteinGuest62964: personally, i would install 10.04 server edition16:05
Guest62964I tried both the AMD64 and the i386 versions...16:05
holsteinthat shouldng matter16:05
holsteinhowever, you should confirm the md5 sum16:05
holsteinand look at those options16:05
holsteinin 10.04, i believe its F4 or F6 and the first boot splash16:06
holsteinyou can pass options there like 'nomodeset'16:06
Guest62964what is the md5 sum?16:08
holsteinhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5sum16:11
holsteinGuest62964: there are other sum methods as well... basically, its a way to confirm the image you download is the same as what you expect it to be16:12
holsteinStockholm_Angel: if you have a dought, just get the 32-bit16:12
holsteinnothing really deal-breaking anymore with running a 64bit linux install though, assuming your hardware supports it16:12
holsteinGuest62964: i suggest http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.2-server-i386.iso16:14
holsteinunless you want 64bit http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.2-server-amd64.iso16:14
holstein^ trouble shoot that installer IF you have the same issues16:14
Stockholm_Angelholstein: tack16:15
Stockholm_Angelthanks sorry i forgot this is english speaking channel16:15
Stockholm_Angelumm, i have a eeepc seashell series machine16:16
Stockholm_Angel1gb ram 2gb swap16:16
Guest62964OK, thanks I'll try and confirm the image and install i38616:19
holsteinGuest62964: OK, but, just for the record, i suggest you download the 10.04 verion, try that install, and go from there16:20
holsteinversion*16:20
Guest62964I'll give the 11.04 one more chance, and then download the 10.4 Thanks for the advice!16:21
holsteinGuest62964: its more than advice16:21
holsteinthe 10.04 version is the LTS - long term support16:22
holsteini dont think anyone would argue that the LTS server edition *should* be used16:22
Guest62964OK, you convinced me, downloading 10.4 now!16:23
ranilynnhi all i'm new to the whole linux thing and i was wondering.. i have a 64 bit computer does it really make a difference between 32 bit and 64 bit ubuntu?17:01
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jeff__OK, I downloaded 10.04 and have the same result. I work thru the beginning of the install and after the I verify the time zone the disk partitioner window briefly pops up and then I get a blank blue screen with a white bottom, suggestions?19:03
tdnIs there a way I can force my laptop cooling fans to run all the time?19:18
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jeff__is there an alternate installation method?19:42
leoquantjeff__, there is an alernate cd19:50
jeff__nope, i downloaded the 64 bit server addition19:51
leoquantand?19:52
jeff__sorry, where can i obtain it, I have this same issue with 11..4 and 10.4 I don't think that it is the cd19:53
Pici!alternate19:55
ubot2The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal19:55
jeff__Thanks, I'll try it now19:56
leoquanthttps://samiux.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/the-different-between-ubuntu-desktop-alternate-cd-and-server-cd/  explains a lot20:00
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pedro3005I need some help22:28
pedro3005anyone out there22:28
kendrickLeiterI am dual booting 11.04 and windows 7.  I just created a liveUSB with Bauer-Puntu on it, but it will not load on startup.  Any recommendations?23:38
kendrickLeiterI am dual booting 11.04 and windows 7.  I just created a liveUSB with Bauer-Puntu on it, but it will not load on startup.  Any recommendations?23:43
nathans80im having a problem running ubuntu10.10 where all my popup's chat windows and new windows are opening in the second window not my main using ati catalyst23:52

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