[03:14] <mcw> hello
[03:14] <mcw> I have a question
[03:15] <mcw> need help please
[03:15] <mcw> with just one thing
[03:15] <mcw> how do I enable compiz permanently
[03:16] <mcw> I tried compiz --replace that gets it working but only untill you restart
[03:17] <mcw> is anyone even on?
[03:18] <mcw> AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!
[03:18] <mcw> lol
[03:19] <mcw> mcw,jumps off cliff due to frustration with  Unity
[03:19] <mcw> fuck it!
[05:56] <Keith_Lassiter> Hello. I am in the process of installing Ubuntu and need a little assistance please.
[05:57] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: hey... are you currently actually installing?
[05:57] <Keith_Lassiter> I downloaded the file and am attempting to mkae the CD
[05:58] <holstein> AH, ok
[05:58] <Keith_Lassiter> make*
[05:58] <holstein> you'll need to actually make a copy
[05:58] <holstein> using the downloaded iso as the source*
[05:59] <Keith_Lassiter> According to the directions it tells me I downloaded the ubuntu11.04 from the main page.. and now I have a zip file
[05:59] <Keith_Lassiter> So I inzipped
[05:59] <Keith_Lassiter> unzipped
[05:59] <holstein> shouldnt be a zip... where did you get it?
[05:59] <Keith_Lassiter> The file that is.. LOOL
[05:59] <Keith_Lassiter> Also downloaded Infra Recorder
[06:00] <Keith_Lassiter> BUt can't determine which file I am supposed to use to create the CD
[06:00] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: im not convinced you have the correct file
[06:00] <Keith_Lassiter> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[06:00] <holstein> it should be one file, a something.iso
[06:01] <Keith_Lassiter> That is what it said when it was downloading.. then when it finished, it came out as a zip file.. Kina wierd actually
[06:01] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: it might be recognized as something that can be unzipped
[06:01] <holstein> but, it should have been ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[06:01] <holstein> nothing weird about it
[06:01] <holstein> not ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.zip
[06:02] <holstein> what did you download? ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso ?
[06:02] <Keith_Lassiter> I just clicked the link where it said download
[06:02] <Keith_Lassiter> it showed me the iso file while it was downloading
[06:02] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: right, look in the /download directory
[06:02] <holstein> and tell me if you have ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso or not
[06:02] <holstein> and if not, what do you have?
[06:03] <Keith_Lassiter> ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386
[06:03] <Keith_Lassiter> jZip archive file (.iso)
[06:03] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: right, just dont unzip it
[06:04] <holstein> you have ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso downloaded, and thats what you burn to CD
[06:04] <Keith_Lassiter> ok, so don't unzip it and create the CD with the zip file?
[06:04] <holstein> you make a copy of the CD using the ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso as the source
[06:04] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: its not a zip file, but yes
[06:04] <Keith_Lassiter> ok, it says its a jzip archive file
[06:05] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: jzip recognizes it as an iso archive, and is offering to extract it
[06:05] <holstein> but, thats not what you want to do
[06:06] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: if you extracted it, you can just throw all of that away, and work with the ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[06:06] <Keith_Lassiter> OK, another quick question.. the file size is showing 701MGB and the CDs only have 700 in sace.. SHould I use a DVD instead?
[06:06] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: you can*
[06:06] <holstein> it *should* be cd sized
[06:07] <holstein> i would probably try it, and you should get an error if its too big
[06:07] <holstein> its likely your OS is estimating its size
[06:08] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: the only reason *not* to burn to DVD is if you cant boot DVD's on the machine in question
[06:08] <Keith_Lassiter> Gotcha .. ok, I am burning the CD as we speak
[06:08] <Keith_Lassiter> The idea her eis to try it before I install it
[06:09] <holstein> yup, try it live
[06:09] <holstein> see how everthing works, hardware wise
[06:09] <Keith_Lassiter> So will this thing run all my windows aps and such?
[06:10] <holstein> ?
[06:10] <holstein> i dought it
[06:10] <Keith_Lassiter> I have been reading on it and it said something about replaceing my current operating system with htis.
[06:10] <holstein> you can ask the vendors if they support linux though
[06:10] <holstein> anyone can write software for linux/ubuntu
[06:10] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: yup, thats up to you
[06:11] <holstein> but, running your current windows apps is no the goal
[06:11] <holstein> the idea is, you probably will find you dont need the windows apps in question*
[06:11] <Keith_Lassiter> So there should be Linux/Ubuntu aps to replace what I use now then.
[06:12] <holstein> we have WINE though, which can run a lot of windows apps with varying degrees of success
[06:12] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: there will be, you just need to learn how to use them
[06:12] <holstein> OR, look around for linux verions of what you need
[06:12] <holstein> or get the windows apps to run
[06:13] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: for most cases, what comes default in ubuntu is plenty
[06:14] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: i think its important to realize that its not windows
[06:14] <holstein> nor is it trying to replace or emulate windows
[06:14] <holstein> ubuntu is a fully functional operating system that any company can choose to write software for and support
[06:15] <holstein> weather or not it works for you is totally up to you
[06:15] <Keith_Lassiter> I am finding that out. It appears as though at best I will be running it alongside Windows for some time.
[06:15] <holstein> but, i think its realistic to go in expecting something differnt
[06:15] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: lots of folks do
[06:15] <holstein> dual boot*
[06:16] <Keith_Lassiter> I have webisites and sales programs that may still require Windows for some of the functions to work correctly. A lot of PHO
[06:16] <Keith_Lassiter> PHP
[06:16] <holstein> yup
[06:16] <holstein> thats the P in LAMP :)
[06:17] <holstein> anyways... do what makes you feel comfortable
[06:17] <Keith_Lassiter> I appreciate your hel[. Gonna try it out and see how it works
[06:17] <holstein> please do, ask whatever you need :)
[06:17] <Keith_Lassiter> I was told by my Service support people from HP that it may even be able to ready my HD that recently crashed
[06:18] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: how bad?
[06:18] <holstein> is it still spinning?
[06:18] <Keith_Lassiter> Windows is saying "No hard drive present".. LOL
[06:18] <holstein> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec is what i use
[06:18] <holstein> as long as the drive can still spin*
[06:19] <Keith_Lassiter> Haven't taken it out of the laptop. It under warranty and getting ready to ship it off to HP
[06:19] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: well, you wont get the old HD back anyways
[06:19] <Keith_Lassiter> So my last backup was a few weeks agoi. Been working out of town.
[06:19] <Keith_Lassiter> If I am lucky, I can save myself a lot of work.
[06:20] <holstein> i use photorec either in ubuntu or from a live cd like http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[06:20] <Keith_Lassiter> Right, that's why I am going to try to retrieve the info before I ship it to HP.
[06:20] <holstein> Keith_Lassiter: you can see if ubuntu sees it, but, if its clicking and dying, photorec is probably the best chance
[06:21] <holstein> i usually get it going, and just let it 'chew' on the data for as long as it needs
[06:21] <Keith_Lassiter> Is photorec on the ultimatebootCD alredy?
[06:22] <holstein> yeah, partedmagic is on there
[06:22] <holstein> has photorec/test disk and all kinds of handy HD tools (and other goodies)
[06:23] <holstein> someone mentioned this at our LUG the other day http://www.hackfromacave.com/katana.html
[06:24] <Keith_Lassiter> I will try it.. I have the Blackboot CD which has always doen a good job for me.. but it didn't see the HD
[07:29] <Stockholm_Angel> tala du svenska?
[07:33] <head_victim> !se
[07:33] <ubot2> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du i #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[08:20] <bioterror> superwoman! ;)
[08:57] <ApOgEE> hi all
[11:07] <s-fox> o/
[11:37] <johnnylep> hi, i'm fairly new to ubuntu and this is my first time on irc, so apologies in advance for breaking any conventions.  i need to install a specialist mindmapping software, named Sciplore, but it isn't in any repository. i've downloaded it as a zip file, but get stuck there. does anybody know how to install such things?
[11:46] <geirha> There's no recipe for such things, apart from extracting the archive somewhere, and look for a README or INSTALL file or similar.
[11:47] <geirha> The site where you found that file might also have documentation on how to proceed.
[11:50] <johnnylep> thanks geirha, there is some info on the site, but it's too complex for me. i have zero coding skills and little IT skill. i need a dummies guide or someone competent to talk me through it.
[11:52] <geirha> Ok, so you got the Linux Binaries (.zip) from here? http://sciplore.org/software/sciplore_mindmapping/#download
[11:54] <johnnylep> thanks again geirha.  yes, i got it from there
[11:55] <geirha> Ok, create a folder somewhere, perhaps in your homedir or one the desktop. Call it SciPlot or something (whatever you feel is best).
[11:55] <geirha> Doubleclick the zip file, click extract and choose your folder as the place to extract the archive.
[11:56] <geirha> The folder you just created that is.
[11:57] <geirha> Now you should see three files named SciploreMindMapping with extensions .bat, .exe and .sh.
[11:58] <geirha> The .bat and .exe files are for windows users, ignore them, right-click on SciploreMindMapping.sh and choose Properties, then in the Permissions tab, mark the checkbox to make it executable.
[11:58] <geirha> After that double-clicking SciploreMindMapping.sh should start the program.
[12:00] <geirha> Are you with me, or did I lose you at some point? :)
[12:01] <johnnylep> so sorry, i've just switched to 11.04 and am trying to work through the new UI....i'm not enjoying it.
[12:02] <johnnylep> can you give me 10 mins to catch up pleae?
[12:03] <geirha> Ah, I'm sticking with 10.04 myself. Haven't tried the new UI at all.
[12:04] <geirha> Maybe someone else here can translate my instructions to the new UI (if they differ)
[12:05] <johnnylep> i'm hoping it's the same once past the UI. this new UI (unity?) is taking a lot of getting used to. should be back with you in 5 mins though
[12:08] <johnnylep> geirha, you're a genius. it's all working. thank you so much.
[12:09] <geirha> \o/
[12:09] <Laftur> Can someone help me with an issue on bootup?
[12:10] <coalwater> Laftur, there's a rule here that says don't ask to ask, just ask :D or something like that lol
[12:10] <coalwater> anyway what's ur problem
[12:11] <Laftur> I'm trying to boot from a USB drive or a CD, and it just freezes on a purple loading screen.
[12:12] <coalwater> it takes a little bit to load, but how much rams do u have on ur computer?
[12:13] <Laftur> 4 Gigabytes.
[12:13] <coalwater> how long have u tried to leave it before u give up and turn it off?
[12:14] <Laftur> I've left it for around five minutes.
[12:14] <coalwater> is it just a purple screen? or is there an ubuntu spalsh screen?
[12:14] <Laftur> It says Ubuntu, and there are some dots below, indicating some sort of action.
[12:15] <Laftur> I assumed it wouldn't take too terribly long to load, but do you think I should try leaving it for longer?
[12:16] <coalwater> it loads the whole system to the ram only, it takes a bit
[12:17] <geirha> It shouldn't take five minutes on a machine with 4GiB RAM though, so it does sound like something's wrong.
[12:17] <coalwater> u sure the cd is fine? no scratches or any thing?
[12:17] <geirha> Is the machine frozen? Does hitting caps lock toggle the caps lock led on your keyboard?
[12:18] <Laftur> Oh, yes.. It's brand new... and I also tried booting from a USB drive: same thing happens.
[12:18] <Laftur> it's not frozen... there's even a cursor that I can maneuver with my trackpad.
[12:19] <geirha> Most likely it's having some trouble with the graphics hardware
[12:20] <Laftur> I've got a Radeon HD 4200 series chipset.
[12:20] <geirha> When you boot with the cd, you'll see a purple screen for a few seconds, it has an image of a man and a keyboard. If you hit some key at that point, you should get a boot menu.
[12:21] <geirha> In the boot menu you can try to select something like safe graphics mode
[12:21] <Laftur> Yes, and I instructed it to load from the disc/usb device.
[12:21] <geirha> There are more options, which you access with the F1-F6 keys
[12:21] <Laftur> oh... that sounds like a good idea, I'll try that, and get back to you.
[16:03] <Guest62964> having trouble  installing the server edition 11.04. The install hangs after the disk partitioner window pops up and leaves me with a purple screen, any suggestions?
[16:04] <Stockholm_Angel1> if i am running a intel atom 4 core processor should i use 36 or 64bit intaller?
[16:04] <Stockholm_Angel1> brb
[16:04] <holstein> Guest62964: there are some options in the installer that i would suggest trying, but that could be a bad install image too
[16:05] <holstein> Guest62964: personally, i would install 10.04 server edition
[16:05] <Guest62964> I tried both the AMD64 and the i386 versions...
[16:05] <holstein> that shouldng matter
[16:05] <holstein> however, you should confirm the md5 sum
[16:05] <holstein> and look at those options
[16:06] <holstein> in 10.04, i believe its F4 or F6 and the first boot splash
[16:06] <holstein> you can pass options there like 'nomodeset'
[16:08] <Guest62964> what is the md5 sum?
[16:11] <holstein> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5sum
[16:12] <holstein> Guest62964: there are other sum methods as well... basically, its a way to confirm the image you download is the same as what you expect it to be
[16:12] <holstein> Stockholm_Angel: if you have a dought, just get the 32-bit
[16:12] <holstein> nothing really deal-breaking anymore with running a 64bit linux install though, assuming your hardware supports it
[16:14] <holstein> Guest62964: i suggest http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.2-server-i386.iso
[16:14] <holstein> unless you want 64bit http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.2-server-amd64.iso
[16:14] <holstein> ^ trouble shoot that installer IF you have the same issues
[16:15] <Stockholm_Angel> holstein: tack
[16:15] <Stockholm_Angel> thanks sorry i forgot this is english speaking channel
[16:16] <Stockholm_Angel> umm, i have a eeepc seashell series machine
[16:16] <Stockholm_Angel> 1gb ram 2gb swap
[16:19] <Guest62964> OK, thanks I'll try and confirm the image and install i386
[16:20] <holstein> Guest62964: OK, but, just for the record, i suggest you download the 10.04 verion, try that install, and go from there
[16:20] <holstein> version*
[16:21] <Guest62964> I'll give the 11.04 one more chance, and then download the 10.4 Thanks for the advice!
[16:21] <holstein> Guest62964: its more than advice
[16:22] <holstein> the 10.04 version is the LTS - long term support
[16:22] <holstein> i dont think anyone would argue that the LTS server edition *should* be used
[16:23] <Guest62964> OK, you convinced me, downloading 10.4 now!
[17:01] <ranilynn> hi all i'm new to the whole linux thing and i was wondering.. i have a 64 bit computer does it really make a difference between 32 bit and 64 bit ubuntu?
[19:03] <jeff__> OK, I downloaded 10.04 and have the same result. I work thru the beginning of the install and after the I verify the time zone the disk partitioner window briefly pops up and then I get a blank blue screen with a white bottom, suggestions?
[19:18] <tdn> Is there a way I can force my laptop cooling fans to run all the time?
[19:42] <jeff__> is there an alternate installation method?
[19:50] <leoquant> jeff__, there is an alernate cd
[19:51] <jeff__> nope, i downloaded the 64 bit server addition
[19:52] <leoquant> and?
[19:53] <jeff__> sorry, where can i obtain it, I have this same issue with 11..4 and 10.4 I don't think that it is the cd
[19:55] <Pici> !alternate
[19:55] <ubot2> The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[19:56] <jeff__> Thanks, I'll try it now
[20:00] <leoquant> https://samiux.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/the-different-between-ubuntu-desktop-alternate-cd-and-server-cd/  explains a lot
[22:28] <pedro3005> I need some help
[22:28] <pedro3005> anyone out there
[23:38] <kendrickLeiter> I am dual booting 11.04 and windows 7.  I just created a liveUSB with Bauer-Puntu on it, but it will not load on startup.  Any recommendations?
[23:43] <kendrickLeiter> I am dual booting 11.04 and windows 7.  I just created a liveUSB with Bauer-Puntu on it, but it will not load on startup.  Any recommendations?
[23:52] <nathans80> im having a problem running ubuntu10.10 where all my popup's chat windows and new windows are opening in the second window not my main using ati catalyst