[07:18] salam, vaghti mikham gcc-arm ro compile konam error migire [07:18] /usr/include/bits/fcntl2.h:51: error: call to ‘__open_missing_mode’ declared with attribute error: open with O_CREAT in second argument needs 3 arguments [07:18] make[1]: *** [collect2.o] Error 1 [07:20] :( [07:28] fvahid: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=257139 [07:28] bugs.gentoo.org bug 257139 in Ebuilds "net-misc/dhcdbd-3.0 - /usr/include/bits/fcntl2.h:51: error: call to '__open_missing_mode' declared with attribute error: open with O_CREAT in second argument needs 3 arguments" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] [07:35] the-light: lubotu3 age dorost shod khabaretoon mikonam, mamnoon [07:50] nemishe nemishe [07:50] ey khoda [07:52] fvahid, hehe, haji 1kio seda kon ke komaket kone, na khoda ro [07:52] everplays: faghat khoda komakam mikone [07:53] fvahid, dude aval bia vojoodesho sabet kon bad :) === everplays is now known as haji [07:54] haji: che esme ghashangi :) [07:54] :) mokhlesam [07:54] Installing GNU ARM toolchain on Linux [07:54] moshkel ine [07:55] tahala 10 bar in karo kardam inbar nemishe, mige nemisham [07:55] hey mizanam saresh .... [07:57] * ilius hameye msg haye in channel ro 2 ta mibine!! [07:57] wth :D [07:58] ilius, in chantas? v [07:58] haji: solaye sakht nakon dige [07:59] dorost shod [07:59] empathy ghat zade bud [08:02] ilius, dude ba empathy miyay too IRC? mesle fosh mimoone interface-esh vase irc [08:02] haji: are ghabul daram [08:02] haji: vali dige che konim, shode messanger e default e gnome, pidgin aslan ba gnome3 match nist [08:03] hmm, are [08:03] aslan mikhan be gtk3 port-esh konan pidgin ro? [08:03] nemidunam [08:03] anyway, man ke alaan gnome nadaram rahat :D [08:03] chi dari? [08:03] xfce? [08:04] haji: ? [08:04] ilius, i3 [08:04] aha gofte budi [08:04] are fekr konam [08:04] man tu in chand sal be in natije residam ke faghat ba gnome rahat hastam [08:05] arch ham ke gnome2 ro drop kard [08:05] bana be tofighe ejbari unadam soraghe gnome3 [08:05] :D [08:06] manam abzar hayi ke estefade mikonam hanooz gnome-e [08:07] vali ye tiling window manager lazem dashtam, ba in floating-a asabam be ham mirikht [08:07] vase hamin switch kardam be in [08:07] man hanuz ye theme e dark e khub vase gtk3 peyda nakardam [08:07] vagarna hanoozam gnome-shell ro az git compile mikonam vase test-o in chiza :D [08:08] sheytoone mige khodam beshinam ye gtk3 theme dorost konam [08:08] are, kari nadare hamash css0e [08:08] s/css0e/css-e/ [08:08] uhum [08:09] maour, be onvan-e tanha KDE kar-e inja khodet /part kon dude :D [08:12] :) [08:13] haji: hala chand nafarim mage [08:13] se ta ham ke bot hastan [08:13] albate oona kde karan :D [08:15] lol [09:29] * WhiteCrow1 be bax salam mide === WhiteCrow1 is now known as WhiteCrow1||AWAY [09:59] * WhiteCrow1||AWAY is away: Gone away for now === WhiteCrow1||AWAY is now known as WhiteCrow1 [10:00] * WhiteCrow1 is back. [10:03] WhiteCrow1, dude in away message-et ro khamoosh kon marom doat mikonan :) [10:04] haji: salam dude sorry nabodan okay be cheshm alan miram khamosh esh mikonam === WhiteCrow1 is now known as ROLAGH === ROLAGH is now known as WhiteCrow1 [11:55] کسی خبرنداره آق بهنام توکلی(مدیر سی تو) معمولا کی آن میشه؟ [12:15] mohsentux: email zadi behesh? [12:18] آره همین الآن دیدمش حل شد [12:18] آخه قراره تو جشن فارغ التحصیلی یه چندتا سی دی برام بفرسته [12:19] راستی دوستان بنظرتون واسه همون جشن(بچه ها ی سوم ر اهنمایی)خوبه که اوبونتو11.04 بدم یا نه کاربا یونیتی سخت تر شده؟ [12:19] آخه من با یونیتی کار نکردم [12:20] Xfcen Behtare [12:20] Xfce** [12:21] Nu^253r: why? [12:21] chon rahat tare? [12:21] it's lighter [12:21] zibeie ham dare [12:21] and more robust [12:21] far30 begu baba [12:22] paydar hast/? [12:22] بین اینا کدوم بهتره؟ [12:22] are [12:22] اوبونتو 11.4 [12:22] اوبونت 10.10 [12:22] مینت کا دی ای [12:22] مینت گنوم [12:23] کوبونتو؟ [12:23] ؟؟؟ [12:23] mint zaheresh ghashang tare [12:23] کدوم میزکار [12:23] man khodam xfce estefade mikonam [12:23] az gnome khosham nemiyad ziyad salighast [12:24] kde3 ro kheili dost dashtam [12:24] bayad bebini mohsentux az kodom khoshet miyad [12:24] midoni chi migam [12:24] alaf bayad be dahane bozi shirin bashe [12:24] شقث [12:24] با تشکر از مثالتون [12:24] میدونم سلیقه ای هست اما می خوام بدونم کدوم راحت تره [12:25] hish kodom :D [12:25] فکر کنم واسه تازه کارا گنوم بهتر باشه [12:25] hamashon yejoran [12:25] حالا واقعا مینت خیلی راحت تر از اوبونتو یا نه؟ [12:25] hamashon mesle haman karaishon be nazare man [12:25] rahatar boodanesho nemidonam mohsentux vali midonam khoshgel tare [12:26] mint "eye candy" ziyad dare [12:26] ubuntu na [12:26] آی کندی چی بید؟ [12:27] منظور باگه [12:27] ؟ [12:27] mint az ubuntu derive shode, [12:27] na bug nist mohsentux [12:27] eyecandy yani jelvehaye zaheri ghashang [12:27] yani abnabat vase cheshm [12:27] ok [12:27] .g define eyecandy [12:28] 3,830,000 results | Showing results for define eye candy | Wikipedia @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye%20Candy?redirect=no | eye candy - definition of eye candy by the Free Online Dictionary ... @ http://www.thefreedictionary.com/eye+candy [12:28] ملت عقلشون تو چشمشونه بخصوص بچه ها [12:28] mohsentux: vali mint hardware support esh zayife fekr mikonam [12:28] mohsentux: man hamun ubuntu ro tosie mikonam [12:29] تو اوبونتو فلش و کدک ها از پیش نصب شدند؟ [12:29] base mint ba ubuntu yekiye [12:29] age ubuntu support kone onam mikne [12:29] Nu^253r: config e kernel eshun ham yekie? motmaeni? [12:29] livecd/dvd mikhay mohsentux ?! [12:29] i dont think so [12:30] Nu^253r: man tajrobeye khubi ba mint nadaram [12:30] هم لایو هم نصبی [12:30] اوخی [12:31] پس همون اوبونتو رو میدم [12:31] man mint va ubuntu ro fagaht dar hade 30min bahashon kar kardam [12:31] onam live hardotashon [12:31] توزیع‌هایی مثل مینت، همونقدر که زود جذب می‌کنن آدم رو، زود هم دفع می‌کنن [12:31] کار هر کس نیست توزیع بیرون دادن [12:31] slackware khoobe [12:31] va debian [12:31] حتی اگه ریمستر باشه [12:31] debian sucks [12:31] خب من برا یتازه کار ا می گم دیگه [12:31] haji: haji intori nagu [12:32] ilius, :D mint kheyli tatile dude, vali ba tavajoh be inke codec va flash dare taraf shayad live-esho estefade kone [12:32] ا [12:33] age ina ro nadashte bashe, ki mitoone be bache 14 sale befahmoone codec chie ke bekhad bad bege chera codec-e mp3 toosh nist [12:33] haji: tozie community-based mesle debian vojud nadare, manam debian ro monaseb vase desktop nemidunam, vali kolle community e gnu/linux be debian madyune [12:33] haji khodet az chi estefade mikoni [12:33] haji: hamuntor ke be redhat va novell [12:34] ilius, hala inke madyoone ya madyoon nist dalil nemishe ke package-e zamaan-e dainasoora ro bede biroon dude, vali harfet ro ta hoodoodi ghabool daram [12:34] Nu^253r, foresight daram va fedora [12:34] haji: be nazare man hich toziyi, be serfe 4 ta codec va application e pish farz nemitune movafagh bashe [12:34] ilius: saret shoolooghe alaan? [12:34] ilius, bedoone shak! vali deghat kon, vase bache haye 3om-e rahnamayi mikhad :) [12:35] اولا که سوم راهنمایی بچه نیست [12:35] خودمم همسنشونما [12:35] :D [12:35] شوخی بود [12:35] حالا جدی [12:35] bedroud hamegi [12:35] اوبونتو11.4 یا 10.10 رو بدم [12:36] haji: khob hamun bache haye sevom e rahnamayi age ba mint be moshkel haye mokhtalef (mesle moshkele sakht afzari) bar bokhoran (ke tu ubuntu nemikhoran) momkene dige bikhial e linux beshan [12:36] از نظر راحتی [12:36] گفتم که همون اوبونتو رو میدم [12:36] ilius, dude inke kollan nayad bala taraf mige CD moshkel dare [12:36] حالا کدوم نسخه [12:37] ama age mp3 ham nakhoone taraf mige in kollan tatile [12:37] mohsentux: rahati nesbi hast, va saligheyi [12:37] nokte ine [12:37] آخه من با یونیتی کارنکردم [12:38] نمی دونم کار باهاش سخت شده یا نه؟ [12:38] mohsentux: khob boro bahash kar kon! [12:38] مثلا دسترسی هاش و تنظیماتش اونم واسه کسی که تا حالاهیچ توزیعی و ندید [12:38] ندیده [12:39] بیست و چهارم جشنه و من همین امروز و فردا باید به بهنام جان بگم بفرسته [12:39] mohsentux: اگه فقط راحتی مهمه، پس همون ویندوز براشون راحت‌تره در حال حاضر [12:39] mohsentux: دلیلی نداره بیاد سراغ لینوکس [12:39] * haji agrees hard [12:39] mohsentux, akhe bikari mikhay beheshoon linux bedi? [12:40] آقا بین 10.10 با 10.04 کدوم راحت تره [12:40] mohsentux: مسئله اینه که آدم باید پیشرفت کنه و بعضی وقتا بعضی عادت‌هاش رو کنار بذاره [12:40] mohsentux: کشتی ما رو با این راحت‌تره ت [12:40] :D [12:40] pisht ilius. [12:40] ilius, dude! chetori linux pishraft hesab mishe? hamoon windows az heme chi behtar-e jane linus :D [12:41] آخه چون تو یونیتی تقریبا منو ها جمع شده می ترسم قاطی کنه طرف [12:41] ashkan: bah bah salam aleykom [12:41] chetor metori ilius? [12:41] haji: are jane linus [12:41] haji: bichare linus [12:41] haji: hame kase kuze ha ro saresh mishkanan [12:42] lol [12:42] ashkan: hey zendegi migzare [12:42] ilius: salamo dorud khoda bar u bad [12:42] mohsentux: و رحمه الله [12:43] یهو کانال چرا جوش عوض شد [12:43] :D [12:43] ilius: man ye seri chiz-miz be in yaaroo taghvime ezaafe kardam. mikhaastam baraash ye python-bindings dorost konam, vali be yek seri moshkeli barkhordam. goftam biyaam baahaat ye mashverati bokonam. [12:43] ashkan: hmmm [12:44] ashkan: befarmaied paridid vasat bahse bikhod man [12:44] ashkan: :d [12:44] ilius: oon output haaye farsi ro behesh ezaafe kardam (albate locale-aware nist), adad haaro ham felan farsi neshoon nemide. [12:44] mohsentux: dige IRC ke paridan vasate bahs nadaare, anarchism proper. [12:44] mohsentux: به نظر من جدید بودنش می‌تونه جذاب هم باشه برای کاربر. چون خیلی ها میگن لینوکس از روی ویندوز کپی کاری می‌کنه [12:44] ashkan: aha khoobe [12:45] ilius: bebinam, man ye seri data-type haayi mesle struct jtm o struct tm o inaaro chi kaar baayad bokonam too python? [12:45] ashkan: vase bind kardn az swig estefade mishe [12:45] ashkan: ye min [12:45] masalan man age bekhaam function e jstrftime() ro wrap esh konam chetori baayad in kaaro bokonam. [12:46] ilius: midoonam, raftam khoondamesh. ye library ham saakhtam baahaash. [12:46] too python ham import esh kardam. [12:46] ashkan: aha [12:46] kaar ham mikone, masalan ye function i mesle jalali_is_jleap(). [12:46] vali in voroodish int e. [12:46] khodesh ye typecase i daare gooyaa baraaye in. [12:47] vali masalan function i ke prototype esh intori baashe foo(struct jtm* jtm), ino chetori mishe too python estefaade kard azash? [12:47] ashkan: vase struct ha (ta unjayi ke yadame) mokafat bud, vase gereftan har ozv az struct bayad ye function minevesgtim [12:47] ashkan: albate kheili vaght pish bahash kar mikardam [12:47] ashkan: shayad alan behtar shode bashe [12:48] minevesgtim -> mineveshtim [12:48] ilius: fekr konam man baayad beshinam ye seri function e jodaa baraaye binding haaye python benevisam ke underlay esh hamoon function haaye library baashe, bad ye PyObject i chizi ro bargardoone. [12:49] ashkan: are [12:49] ashkan: va dar nahayat ye wrapper e python ham benevisi khube [12:49] ashkan: ke taro tamiz beshe, oo beshe native beshe :D [12:49] to oon strftime() i ke khodet neveshte boodi prototype esh too python che shekli bood? [12:50] ashkan: prototype esh ? [12:50] ashkan: kollan ba python neveshtam dige [12:50] aare, parameter haayi ke be function pass midi. [12:50] w8 [12:52] ilius: raasti oon vahid e AK chetore? [12:54] ashkan: mashghoole dige [12:54] ashkan: 2 hafte dige jamun avaz mishe, khabar dari? [12:54] ilius: nistesh dige tooye gtalk o inaa. [12:55] ilius: na, kojaa gharaare berin? [12:55] ashkan: sazman aab [12:55] saazmaan aab? [12:55] ashkan: sadeghie [12:55] oh! [12:55] ashkan: sharghe sadeghie [12:55] ashkan: haji man vase un strftime ye khalaghiat e ajib gharib zadam :D [12:56] ashkan: piade sazish ro migam [12:56] ilius, marde hesabi mage nemidooni haji copyright dare :D [12:56] haji: lol [12:56] chi kaar kardi ilius? [12:56] haji: bebakhshid haji @tm [12:57] ilius: be oon vahid e aashghaal-kalle begoo biyaad roo gtalk yekami bezanam too saro kallash bekhandam behesh. [12:57] ilius, hehe, dude pas nazdik-e ma mishin :) albate daftar-e ma kashanie [12:57] ashkan: format ro compile mikonam be ye formate dige, masalan %Y/%m/%d tabdil mishe be %d/%d/%d (yani 3 ta integer) va 3 ta function ke in 3 ta integer ro return mikonan :D [12:58] ashkan: az in khalaghiat haye sabke pythoni!!! [12:59] ashkan, dude chizayi ham ke vase php native neveshtan hamintorie ke ilius goft, albate jaye string array migiran mamoolan [12:59] ashkan: albate %Y/%m/%d --> %.4dd/%.2d/%.2d [12:59] ilius: khob in maale che time i ro bar migardoone? dar vaaghe to asaasan time ro chetori negah midaari? [12:59] ashkan, negah nemidare dige, faght date conversion dare [12:59] ashkan: time ro besusate epoch (ya jd, h, m, s) pass midam be un 2 ta function [13:00] ashkan: jd = julian day [13:00] haji: khob man alaan mikhaam bedoonam ke masalan yeki mikhaad ye date i ro (na lozooman ``now'') format kone baa in strftime() chetori mishe. [13:00] bebin masalan khode strftime() ya struct tm migire ke tooye oon date e hast. [13:01] ashkan, khob too python/php/ruby faghat ye epoch time midi jaye tm [13:01] ke oonam int-e [13:01] ilius: to age prototype e function et ro be man begi kheili khoobe. [13:01] ashkan: w8 [13:01] دست همتون از بابت راهنمایی درد نکنه یاعلی خداحافظ [13:01] ashkan: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/401543/ [13:02] haji: hamoon UNIX timestamp ro migi? oon ke aakhe maloom nist maale che timezone iye. [13:02] mohsentux: bedrood [13:02] ashkan, vase initialization in karo mikonan, vali type haye native-esh timezone ham daran, masalan DateTime too php ba epoch initialize mishe be onvan-e arg-e dovom timezone migire [13:03] mohsentux: gl. [13:03] ashkan: ina ro chon tu barnamam zakhire mikonam (jd masalan) dige nakhastam process e ezafe begire hesab kone [13:04] ashkan, ino bebin > http://ir.php.net/manual/en/datetime.construct.php [13:04] man fekr konam raahe dorost o sane esh ine ke ye struct i baashe, inaaro too khodesh daashte baashe. [13:04] ashkan, dude oon kheyli C-ish-e :) [13:04] ke ye struct bahe-o ina [13:04] hmm... [13:05] alaan in example haaro negaah kardam. raas migi. [13:05] taghriban hich kodoom in chizaaro nadaaran. [13:06] * AbismoNegro Hates Gnome3 more than unity . long live KDE [13:07] khob baa in hesaab ye library e dorost o hesaabi baa python baayad benevisam. [13:08] faghat baraaye inke function haaye library ro betoonam call konam baayad yek seri prototype e alternative e sane baraash dar biyaaram. [13:08] ashkan: strptime e jalali [13:08] chon intori ke faayde nadaare, az in jstrftime() tooye libjalali kasi too python nemitoone estefaade kone be in raahati. [13:08] ashkan, +1 [13:08] ashkan: age strptime dashte bashe, mishe input e function ro string gereft [13:09] ashkan, dastet dard nakone faghat ruby yadet nare dude :D [13:09] haji: ruby balad nistam. [13:09] ashkan, ba hamoon ke dari minevisi ruby ham mitooni begiri :) [13:09] haji: SWIG? [13:10] ilius: chiyo migi strptime daashte baashe? [13:10] ashkan, are [13:10] ashkan: strptime e jalali nadaim ke, darim? [13:11] '1390-1-1' ==> time object [13:11] ilius: cheraa, jstrftime() daare, jstrptime() ham daare. [13:11] ashkan: eee [13:11] age library e man manzoorete albate. [13:11] ashkan: aha ok [13:12] ashkan: pas mituni har ja object e time mikhay begiri, string begiri [13:12] ashkan: ke mokafate e function haye struct ham nabashe [13:12] ashkan: albate shayad yekam kond tar bashe vali ... [13:13] ilius: man aslan nafahmidam raajebe chi daari sohbat mikoni. [13:14] biaayin ye negaah bendaazin bebinin in Farsi-marsi haash ham doroste yaa na: http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/jcal/jcal-0.3.0.tar.gz [13:14] albate age version e git ro clone begirin behtare tabiyatan. [13:17] ashkan, koja repo-sh ro host kardi? roo savannah? [13:19] ashkan: %OY, %Om o ina kar nemikone [13:19] ashkan: va %X [13:23] ilius: %O nist, man jdate ro negaah kon. [13:24] haji: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/jcal.git [13:24] rooye github ham hast. [13:24] ilius: %g va %G baraaye rooz haaye hafte an, %v va %V baraaye maah. [13:25] ilius: set e format-specifier haayi ke jstrptime() support mikone kheili kamtar az jstrftime() e. [13:25] jstrptime() masalan aslan %X nadaare. [13:26] ashkan: are [13:26] ilius: vali alaan man ini ke gofti test kardam, %X ro. [13:26] kaar nakard. [13:26] ajibe. [13:26] jdate +%X time ro barnemigardoone. [13:27] vaaysaa negaah konam bebinam cheraa. [13:27] ashkan: are, va %Y , %y , %m , %d kar nemikonan, %g , %G kar mikonan [13:28] ilius: jdate +%Y baraaye man kaar mikone. [13:28] %y hamintor. [13:28] %m ham doroste. [13:28] %d ham doroste. [13:28] to output nadaari az inaa ilius? [13:29] ashkan: chera vali english e [13:29] ashkan, haji zob-e dar stallman shodia :) bekesh biroon az savannah :D [13:29] ilius: aahaa, aare dige. goftam hanooz locale-aware nist. [13:29] haji: cheshe savannah? [13:30] daghoone dige dude, github kheyli ok tar-e, ya hata gitorious [13:30] yani adad haaro farsi neshoon emide. [13:30] nemide* [13:30] haji: rooye github ham hast. [13:30] https://github.com/ashkang/jcal [13:31] ajibe, man %X ro aslan tarif nakardam tooye jtime.c, zadam unused. [13:31] vali document esh kardam! [13:31] haalaa cheraasho nemidoonam dige vaaghean. [13:31] inke tahe ghablet mikhasti implement koni? :D [13:32] haa, fahmidam. [13:32] na. [13:32] haji: s/ghablet/ghablet/g [13:32] ghalbet [13:32] %T hamin kaaro anjaam mide, in date ye set e kaameliye based on locale. [13:33] ilius, mersi dude ke bug ro fix kardi :) [13:33] masalan too bazi az keshvar haa saa'at ro %H:%M:%S neshoon nemidan. [13:33] haji: :D [13:33] ashkan: are %X locale e %T hast [13:33] ashkan, dude, mardom ro too khomari nazar, vase record ham ke shode begoo chetori sa@ ro neshoon midan [13:34] masalan america, ye joor namaayeshe date i daaran in modeli: %M/%D/%Y [13:34] haji: jdate %T [13:34] %X ro bikhodi gozaashtam aslan tooye manual haa. [13:34] %X kaari anjaam nemide. [13:34] ashkan, dude, time ro begoo, date ro ke midoonestam too us chetori neshoon midan [13:35] nemidoonam vaallaa, hatman yek format haaye ajib gharibi daaran dige. [13:35] be har haal, be maa apply nemishe. [13:35] maa hamintori neshoon midim time ro. [13:38] ashkan: %T hamishe bayad adad hash english bashe (hatta age locale farsi hast) vali %X bayad bar asase locale bashe (vase farsi, adad hash farsi), ideal esh ine [13:39] ashkan: kash ina ro mishod abstract kard [13:39] ashkan: ke nakhad duplicate bashe [13:39] ashkan: yani tuye un strcut e time, ye date type ham bashe ke jalali hast ya gregorian ya har chi [13:40] ashkan: ke modular bashe, nakhaym hama ro rewrite konim [13:40] ilius: gregorian ro ke dige kaamel support mishe baa tamaame joz'iyaate momken. [13:40] ashkan: manzuram ine ke abstract bashe, yani har 2 daghighen ye chiz bashan [13:41] ilius: aakhe midooni chiye, in date o time tooye kheili az keshvar haa estefaade mishe. [13:41] ashkan: faghat underlying eshun fargh dashte bashe [13:41] masalan roozhaaye hafte be faraanse ye chize, be swedish ye chize, maah haa hamintor. [13:41] ashkan: felan gregorian va jalali [13:41] vali in case haa be maa apply nemishan ke. [13:42] ashkan: hala lazem nist az hame locale ha support e kamel beshe ke [13:43] khob chaareyi nist joz inke hamash ro dasti dar aavord. [13:43] taghriban. [13:43] ashkan: man migam bayad implementation avaz beshe ke modular beshe [13:43] ilius: chejoori yani? [13:44] ashkan: va strftime o strptime o ... faghat ye bar implement mishan ke moshtarak beyne hameye date type hast (gregorian, jalali, arabic, hebrew, ...) [13:44] ilius: khob in dige daste maa nist. [13:44] ashkan: va har kodum e in date type ha ye module ya plugin ha har chi ..., hastan [13:45] daste developer haaye libc o inaas. [13:45] inaam standard shode be har haal. [13:45] ashkan: khob age ma mesle aadam betunim implement konim shayad approve beshe [13:45] yani haalaa glibc taaze ye vareshe, hezaaran implementation e libc vojood daaran. [13:45] ashkan: approve ham nashe mishe fork kard, bahs in nist [13:46] ilius: fekr nakonam, man ye baar sohbat kardam baahaashoon. migan ke libc aashpazkhoone nist ke har chi az raah resid bechepoonim toosh. [13:46] faghat chizhaaye hayaati. [13:46] hamin alaanesh ham be andaazeye kaafi bloated hast. [13:46] ilius: date o time ye ghesmate koochikeshoone. negah daashtane ye fork e glibc kaare maa nist. [13:46] ashkan: khob foghesh ye library e third-party mishe [13:47] ashkan: bahsam dar morede implementation hast [13:48] bebin ilius, nokte ine ke kasi ke mikhaad date o time e gregorian ro baahaash kaar kone (ke mishe bish az 90% aadamaa) nemiyaan az library e maa estefaade konan. [13:48] hamoon libc ro estefaade mikonan. [13:48] ashkan: age jalali bekhad kolllan saze khodesh ro bezane (va modular nabashe) ta 30 sale dige ham tu hich applicationi support nemishe [13:48] ashkan: mesle gnome, evolution, firefox, ... [13:49] ilius: cheraa dige, masalan to alaan mitooni az in library e man estefaade koni be jaaye inke beri khodet ye baar hameye inaaro implement koni. [13:49] ashkan: tanha rah ine ke modular bashe [13:49] ilius: too gnome mishe bordesh. [13:49] too gnome o KDE o inaa mishe ino bord. [13:49] vali too glibc o inaa KHEILI KHEILI bayide. [13:49] va asaasan kheili ham mohem nist. [13:51] in implementation haaye libc hamashoon bar asaase POSIX i hastan ke saalhaa pish tarif shode dige alaan dire baraaye fekr kardan be in chiz haa. [13:51] vali masalan, in age khoob package beshe, ham mitoone bere tooye icu, ham gnome, ham KDE. [13:52] ham inke khodesh stand-alone ye library baashe ke application haaye third-party azash estefaade konan. [13:53] be nazar-e man aslan niaz nist bere too khode libc, be glibc ham berese ok-e ke kolle gnome betoone estefade kone azash [13:53] kde ham ke kheyli vaghte dare [13:55] chon app hayi ke akhar estefade mishan be library hayi mesle glibc vabaste hastan va mostaghim kheyli kam ba libc kar mikonan [13:56] haji: too khode libc ke mani nadaare aslan, hezaaraan implementation az libc vojood daaran. glibc, elibc, uclibc, diet-libc, ... [13:56] nemishe ke be hamashoon goft ino bezaarin. [13:56] ke hattaa begim ham nakhaahand gozaasht. [13:56] ashkan, hmm, hala ke gofti glibc begam ke manzooram gnu lib c nabood, library-e gnome bood :) [13:57] az glibc [13:57] man baa developer haaye glibc (ke taaze baayad aakhare aadame maghoolo nemidoonam type aazaadio in harfaa baashan) sohbat mikardam goftan kheili bayide accept beshe be onvaane GNU-extension. [13:57] aahaa. [14:03] ilius: haalaa be nazare to, in jstrftime() baayad ye chizi daashte baashe ke bedoone inke be locale kaar daashte baashe betoone output e farsi bede? yaa inke locale-aware baayad baashe? [14:12] ashkan, faghat farsi ro support kone kafi nist? albate mesle date ba environment vars kar kone manzooram ine ke ba oon compatible bashe ama faghat farsi support kone [14:13] haji: aakhe masalan inke to beri environment variable e LANG ro negaah koni faghat be in dard mikhore ke kasi bekhaad application esh kaamelan locale-aware baashe. [14:13] yeki ke LANG=fr.utf8 set mikone tavagho daare laabod ke in jdate, roozhaaye hafteye faraanse behesh neshoon bede. [14:13] ke be nazaram yekam asaasan confusing e. [14:14] fekr konam hamoon support e output e farsi daashte baashe kefaayat bokone. [14:14]