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ubottuIn ubottu, Logan_ said: !forget stevenk00:54
rww!stevenk01:06
rwwI see someone else got to it first ;P01:06
Flannelwas:  Here is the Cleaner of the archive, and killer of NBS!01:08
FlannelI have no idea what that means though.01:08
bazhang (~D34X  aka dommer02:17
IdleOne??02:18
bazhangthe dreaded "going back to windows!!" gambit02:19
genii-aroundYes02:19
genii-around"well if *buntu doesn't have <fill in blank > I'll have to go back to windows"02:20
bazhangwow rude user02:25
bazhangthat's a *first* !02:25
IdleOne-!blog is <reply> #ubuntu is the official Ubuntu support channel, for non support chat please /join #ubuntu-offtopic. If you feel like whining and moaning find the appropriate blogging application and use it!02:26
* genii-around slides hypatia a tea02:26
bazhanghehe02:26
IdleOneany objections to me adding that factoid?02:26
rwwyes02:26
bazhangyes02:26
IdleOne:(02:26
IdleOneok02:26
bazhangbetter t o prolong it02:27
genii-aroundHeh02:27
IdleOnewhat's wrong with it ?02:27
bazhangit's a slippery slope from that to !pebcak02:28
bazhangthen we've morphed into #fedora02:28
genii-aroundIt does verge on being condescending to users02:28
IdleOneI can never have no fun :(02:28
bazhang1) it's rude02:29
IdleOneit was mostly a joke02:29
IdleOneand if there is only 1 thing wrong with it I didn't do too bad02:29
bazhangnot to mention dismissive and likely to get even more complaints, thus escalating an already upset user02:29
bazhangso that's three.02:30
rwwIt's hard to catalyze well using factoids.02:30
IdleOneok. so no telling people to go blog somewhere else02:30
bazhang!google02:31
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.02:31
rwwI also note that I attempted to create a !blog for -ot at one point and couldn't find a suitable wording for the above reasons.02:31
bazhangseems not far from that, ie the antithesis02:31
bazhangsimultaneous x-servers?02:36
rwwsure02:36
genii-aroundUsed to be able to do a startx in different console, not sure thats possible anymore02:37
rwwMultipe X servers sounds annoying to do and I've never done it, but it's possible.02:37
bazhangon two monitors?02:37
Jordan_UIt used to be fairly common, from my recolection at least.02:38
bazhangdont know wh y she does ask in #compiz about this02:38
genii-aroundAny objection to clarifying  !fr with something like: Les Canadiens qui parlent français visitent le ##ubuntu-qc si vous svp     ?03:01
bazhangsi vous svp?03:01
Flannelgenii-around: does -qc do support?03:01
rww!fr03:01
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.03:01
Flannelgenii-around: Sometimes LoCo channels don't do support, so we direct to language channels instead (br and pt come to mind)03:02
rwwIs there a problem with non-Canadian French speakers wandering in to #ubuntu-qc (was the ## a typo?) or something?03:02
genii-aroundrww: The ## was typo, yes03:02
genii-aroundrww: I don't know if there's currently an issue with the wandering-in on non-Canadians there, probably not  :) Just for clarification that the -qc *is* for Quebec03:05
IdleOnenon french speaking people are more then welcome in -qc03:07
IdleOnewe don't have a steadfast rule about speaking French in there03:08
bazhangquoi?03:08
IdleOneit is preferred.03:08
IdleOnepardon? que?03:08
genii-aroundIdleOne: Yes, I know. The !ca doesn't even mention -qc for instance either, however03:09
rww!ca03:09
ubottuCanadian Ubuntu users can be found in #ubuntu-ca03:09
* genii-around toys with appending: aussi, #ubuntu-qc03:09
IdleOneas for support in -qc it is luck of the draw. you may or may not find someone. -fr has a larger support community03:10
rwwIf -us is anything to go by, I wonder why that isn't #ubuntu-ca-qc03:10
IdleOneI don't know if there are any other -province channels to be honest03:11
rwwps, I hope you appreciate me not saying all the jokes that keep popping up in my head :(03:11
genii-aroundQuebec is odd situation. Sort of like the territories of the US like Puerto Rico, etc03:12
rwwI was trying to find a Puerto Rico channel the other day. Is there one? Is there even a LoCo at all?03:12
IdleOnegenii-around: heh, Quebec does actually have an official status as a province03:12
IdleOneFor the record the rest of Canada is a "special case" much like Puerto Rico.03:13
genii-aroundIdleOne: Yes, but they wished they don't! ;)03:13
genii-aroundrww: Apparently there is an ubuntu-pr.org03:13
IdleOnegenii-around: the last couple of referendums would disagree03:13
IdleOnethe last federal election would also suggest the same03:14
IdleOneanyway what started all this?03:14
genii-aroundrww: Their channel is apparently #ubuntu-puertorico and not like #ubuntu-us-pr03:14
* genii-around sips and hides03:15
IdleOne!qc03:16
IdleOne!fr03:16
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.03:16
IdleOnegenii-around: what did you want to edit?03:16
rwwObviously the best solution is to kick all the Quebecois into #ubuntu-ca and use #ubuntu-qc to discuss the best webcomic.03:16
IdleOne+1 ^03:16
Flannelhaha03:16
genii-aroundAt any rate... it makes sense to me now to leave !fr alone, since if your Quebecois sees the -qc channel in !fr it's self obvious. I however would like to append the "aussi #ubuntu-qc" to !ca however, if no one strenuously objects03:21
Flannelgenii-around: Do you want general canadians to join -qc?03:21
genii-aroundFlannel: Certainly, if they prefer03:22
genii-aroundWe're all about choice here :)03:22
IdleOnegenii-around: I am fine with that03:22
genii-aroundIdleOne: OK, cool03:23
CoreyInfectedSoul is being abusive in #centos as well.04:51
Flannelrww: .14.131 instead of .3.133, could be.05:39
rwwsame ISP, use of webchat, and I think miroperson used ubuntu* as a nick too05:40
rwwalso, you know, the attitude problem05:40
Flannelrww: There's a 1 in 62025 chance you're right!05:40
genii-aroundHeh05:41
rwwno there isn't :(05:41
GTRsdkI have a question06:04
FlannelGTRsdk: We have responses!06:05
rwwI have offtopic and vaguely-amusing comments!06:05
GTRsdkIf I want to create a project similar to Lubuntu that is based on Ubuntu, can I create a channel such as #winebuntu?06:05
ldunnNo.06:05
ldunnoh wait06:05
ldunnSorry, yes06:05
* ldunn hits self in face06:05
GTRsdkWill I have to add a group to the access list?06:06
FlannelGTRsdk: Regarding your project as a whole, be sure you're aware of the Ubuntu trademark policy: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy06:07
GTRsdkFlannel, so I should consider naming it Ubuntu, Wine remix?06:10
FlannelGTRsdk: Consider it, sure.  I just wanted to make sure you'd seen that, as it's somewhat important :)06:11
FlannelGTRsdk: Is the bulk of your changes adding wine by default?06:12
rwwyou should consider not making yet another derivative of Ubuntu, imnsho06:12
GTRsdkFlannel, the main changes would be adding Wine, and using the Lubuntu default environment06:12
genii-aroundThere are other projects which are much further ahead in this kind of endeavour, like REACTos06:13
GTRsdkFlannel, I was thinking also maybe some wine glasses instead of the circles in the ring (ubuntu logo) and a special wallpaper06:17
FlannelGTRsdk: If you're just going to change stuff like that (obviously your repos will be very similar) then calling it a remix is probably your best bet.06:18
FlannelGTRsdk: I suggest Lubuntu Wine Remix orsomething though, since that'll make more sense with what you're doing (taking Lubuntu, remixing it)06:18
GTRsdkFlannel, and I should probably contact Canonical? so a more appropriate channel would be #lubuntu-wineremix ?06:19
rwwspeaking purely from freenode rules, #lubuntu-wineremix is part of the #lubuntu* namespace, and thus subject to their rules06:19
FlannelGTRsdk: I don't believe you need to contact canonical for the remix, no.  But I am not a lawyer.06:20
rwwand speaking as a Debian and Ubuntu user, I seriously recommend you reconsider making Yet Another Derivative, because it seems to lack a point.06:21
GTRsdkrww, was Fluxbuntu shut down from Canonical or was it abandoned?06:26
rwwNo idea.06:26
GTRsdkthanks for the info. I don't think I'll create a Winebuntu or a Lubuntu Wine Remix, so I'm out of here06:42
jussiIf anyone is interested, fluxbuntu still lives...06:54
knomeheh?07:33
jussiknome: backscroll about 6 or 7 lines08:13
knomejussi, :)08:15
Jordan_Ujussi: Define living...08:20
knomeliving != dead08:22
knome:)08:22
Jordan_Uknome: Define dead in a way that does not accurately describe Fluxbuntu :)08:23
Tm_Tliving != dead != living08:23
knomeJordan_U, dead != living08:23
knome;)08:23
rwwthis sounds like a perfect time for braaaaaiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnsssssss08:24
genii-aroundI just woke up when annoying off-the-air sound of TV screeched, realized I dozed off with computer on lap, bleh. Goodnight08:29
rwwTV channels still go off the air? I thought that was, like, an 80's thing.08:31
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Flannelrww: more like a 70s thing.10:12
Flannelrww: 80s invented infomercials (well, late 70s)10:12
FlannelMmm, no, i guess it was the 80s afterall.10:14
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ubottuniko called the ops in #ubuntu (niquetameeeeeeee volovitz sheldon)15:09
Picijpds: Did the 9.04 archives just get moved to old-releases recently? We've had a spike in people asking about installing from that release lately.15:33
ikoniado I know 15:58 -!- D34X is now known as Dommer15:58
IdleOnebaz hang pasted that yesterday also16:00
ikoniathe DX34 bit is what stands out to me16:01
IdleOnemahen23 is still banned in -ot? if so he just ban evaded with neoanders@197.225.145.5316:02
ikoniaace16:02
IdleOneerr .94 that is16:03
IdleOne.53 was old ip16:03
ikoniachange it to ident at some point16:03
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Tm_Thi slack-m21:17
slack-mHello21:18
Tm_Tslack-m: you're aware why you're here?21:19
slack-mProbably cause I'm banned from #ubuntu cause I accidently sent an amsg out when I was on freenode. I have it on autojoin and sometimes forget to close it before AMSG'ing21:21
Tm_TI would assume #freenode doesn't enjoy having the "advertisements" either generally21:23
Tm_Talso, you did advertise in #ubuntu twice within 24 hours21:23
Tm_Tslack-m: can we trust you wont advertise in #ubuntu anymore?21:25
Tm_Tslack-m: hello?21:38
slack-myes21:40
slack-mTm_T, i am sorry21:40
slack-mabout that21:40
slack-mTm_T, and yes, i try to never advertise on freenode21:40
slack-monce in a while i let it slip when im not paying attn21:40
Tm_Tthere's other channels too you did which I'm not happy with, but it's not the current business21:41
Tm_Tslack-m: can we trust you wont advertise in #ubuntu anymore?21:41
slack-mYes21:42
ikoniaTm_T: I'm not happy with this21:43
ikoniathe guys doing it in other channels and multiple times in #ubuntu21:43
ikonia(noting for the record)21:43
Tm_Ttwice in #ubuntu, I'm going to talk about the other channels I'm related to in a moment21:43
ikoniaunderstood21:44
Tm_Tslack-m: the ban is removed for now and you may part this channel, will catch you in PM in a moment21:45
CarlFKslack-m: seems you are not too interested.  that too seems worth pointing out.21:50
slack-mI am busy as hell, im a programmer21:51
slack-mits not that im not interested21:51
slack-mim just busy21:51
Tm_Tslack-m: ok, you may part this channel21:51
slack-mand, for the record, what I advertised, was not in any way shape fasion or form to make money.21:51
slack-mor porn21:52
slack-mor anything like that21:52
slack-mjust 'for the record'21:52
slack-mas long as your on the 'for the record' kick21:52
slack-mwhat i was advertising was a project i work on personally in my spare time to contribute to the community21:52
Tm_Tthat's why I said advertising, not spam21:53
slack-m;]21:53
slack-mand it was an accident21:54
slack-mseriously21:54
slack-mcause, no one on freenode plays that game21:54
slack-mi wouldnt bother trying to direct anything this way21:54
LjLjust goes to show that /amsg is evil :P21:54
Tm_Tnever used it, prolly never will21:54
Picislack-m: I would have just asked you to not do that, but you had signed off right after you sent the amsg.21:54
slack-mLjL, im on 5 networks, 4 of which are gamingnetworks and directed at them, as they are all related to the game. freenode is just on my autojoin cause I'm an avid linux user21:55
slack-mPici, yea, i signed off so i wouldnt do it again21:55
slack-mi relised i did it21:55
slack-mand was like21:55
slack-mSHIIIIIIIIIIIt21:55
LjLit's ok mistakes happen, just my personal opinion is that if you have to advertize, you may as well take the time to do it manually to each relevant channel... but that's just my two cents21:56
Tm_Tok, I'm going to sleep, good night all21:56
LjLnight21:56
slack-mLjL, i would agree, if i wasnt in 70 channels relevant to the game, and only in channels that are relevant(normally)21:56
slack-m;]21:56
slack-mgn Tm_T21:56
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rwwslack-m: if you're all set now, please /part the channel so we can keep better track of who needs help :)23:18
rwwhypatia: did you set your nickserv account to not autovoice or something? (or is my irssi being weird and not showing a +v)23:22
IdleOnexchat is being also in that case23:22
IdleOnebeing weird*23:22
rwwk. she's identified though, so I suspect nickservness23:23
rwwalthough the "Last seen" seems wrong, so maybe it got confused23:23
hypatiarww: no idea23:31
rwwhypatia: can you /msg nickserv logout and then /msg nickserv identify etc?23:32

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