[01:06] <rww> !stevenk
[01:06] <rww> I see someone else got to it first ;P
[01:08] <Flannel> was:  Here is the Cleaner of the archive, and killer of NBS!
[01:08] <Flannel> I have no idea what that means though.
[02:17] <bazhang>  (~D34X  aka dommer
[02:18] <IdleOne> ??
[02:19] <bazhang> the dreaded "going back to windows!!" gambit
[02:19] <genii-around> Yes
[02:20] <genii-around> "well if *buntu doesn't have <fill in blank > I'll have to go back to windows"
[02:25] <bazhang> wow rude user
[02:25] <bazhang> that's a *first* !
[02:26] <IdleOne> -!blog is <reply> #ubuntu is the official Ubuntu support channel, for non support chat please /join #ubuntu-offtopic. If you feel like whining and moaning find the appropriate blogging application and use it!
[02:26]  * genii-around slides hypatia a tea
[02:26] <bazhang> hehe
[02:26] <IdleOne> any objections to me adding that factoid?
[02:26] <rww> yes
[02:26] <bazhang> yes
[02:26] <IdleOne> :(
[02:26] <IdleOne> ok
[02:27] <bazhang> better t o prolong it
[02:27] <genii-around> Heh
[02:27] <IdleOne> what's wrong with it ?
[02:28] <bazhang> it's a slippery slope from that to !pebcak
[02:28] <bazhang> then we've morphed into #fedora
[02:28] <genii-around> It does verge on being condescending to users
[02:28] <IdleOne> I can never have no fun :(
[02:29] <bazhang> 1) it's rude
[02:29] <IdleOne> it was mostly a joke
[02:29] <IdleOne> and if there is only 1 thing wrong with it I didn't do too bad
[02:29] <bazhang> not to mention dismissive and likely to get even more complaints, thus escalating an already upset user
[02:30] <bazhang> so that's three.
[02:30] <rww> It's hard to catalyze well using factoids.
[02:30] <IdleOne> ok. so no telling people to go blog somewhere else
[02:31] <bazhang> !google
[02:31] <rww> I also note that I attempted to create a !blog for -ot at one point and couldn't find a suitable wording for the above reasons.
[02:31] <bazhang> seems not far from that, ie the antithesis
[02:36] <bazhang> simultaneous x-servers?
[02:36] <rww> sure
[02:37] <genii-around> Used to be able to do a startx in different console, not sure thats possible anymore
[02:37] <rww> Multipe X servers sounds annoying to do and I've never done it, but it's possible.
[02:37] <bazhang> on two monitors?
[02:38] <Jordan_U> It used to be fairly common, from my recolection at least.
[02:38] <bazhang> dont know wh y she does ask in #compiz about this
[03:01] <genii-around> Any objection to clarifying  !fr with something like: Les Canadiens qui parlent français visitent le ##ubuntu-qc si vous svp     ?
[03:01] <bazhang> si vous svp?
[03:01] <Flannel> genii-around: does -qc do support?
[03:01] <rww> !fr
[03:02] <Flannel> genii-around: Sometimes LoCo channels don't do support, so we direct to language channels instead (br and pt come to mind)
[03:02] <rww> Is there a problem with non-Canadian French speakers wandering in to #ubuntu-qc (was the ## a typo?) or something?
[03:02] <genii-around> rww: The ## was typo, yes
[03:05] <genii-around> rww: I don't know if there's currently an issue with the wandering-in on non-Canadians there, probably not  :) Just for clarification that the -qc *is* for Quebec
[03:07] <IdleOne> non french speaking people are more then welcome in -qc
[03:08] <IdleOne> we don't have a steadfast rule about speaking French in there
[03:08] <bazhang> quoi?
[03:08] <IdleOne> it is preferred.
[03:08] <IdleOne> pardon? que?
[03:09] <genii-around> IdleOne: Yes, I know. The !ca doesn't even mention -qc for instance either, however
[03:09] <rww> !ca
[03:09]  * genii-around toys with appending: aussi, #ubuntu-qc
[03:10] <IdleOne> as for support in -qc it is luck of the draw. you may or may not find someone. -fr has a larger support community
[03:10] <rww> If -us is anything to go by, I wonder why that isn't #ubuntu-ca-qc
[03:11] <IdleOne> I don't know if there are any other -province channels to be honest
[03:11] <rww> ps, I hope you appreciate me not saying all the jokes that keep popping up in my head :(
[03:12] <genii-around> Quebec is odd situation. Sort of like the territories of the US like Puerto Rico, etc
[03:12] <rww> I was trying to find a Puerto Rico channel the other day. Is there one? Is there even a LoCo at all?
[03:12] <IdleOne> genii-around: heh, Quebec does actually have an official status as a province
[03:13] <IdleOne> For the record the rest of Canada is a "special case" much like Puerto Rico.
[03:13] <genii-around> IdleOne: Yes, but they wished they don't! ;)
[03:13] <genii-around> rww: Apparently there is an ubuntu-pr.org
[03:13] <IdleOne> genii-around: the last couple of referendums would disagree
[03:14] <IdleOne> the last federal election would also suggest the same
[03:14] <IdleOne> anyway what started all this?
[03:14] <genii-around> rww: Their channel is apparently #ubuntu-puertorico and not like #ubuntu-us-pr
[03:15]  * genii-around sips and hides
[03:16] <IdleOne> !qc
[03:16] <IdleOne> !fr
[03:16] <IdleOne> genii-around: what did you want to edit?
[03:16] <rww> Obviously the best solution is to kick all the Quebecois into #ubuntu-ca and use #ubuntu-qc to discuss the best webcomic.
[03:16] <IdleOne> +1 ^
[03:16] <Flannel> haha
[03:21] <genii-around> At any rate... it makes sense to me now to leave !fr alone, since if your Quebecois sees the -qc channel in !fr it's self obvious. I however would like to append the "aussi #ubuntu-qc" to !ca however, if no one strenuously objects
[03:21] <Flannel> genii-around: Do you want general canadians to join -qc?
[03:22] <genii-around> Flannel: Certainly, if they prefer
[03:22] <genii-around> We're all about choice here :)
[03:22] <IdleOne> genii-around: I am fine with that
[03:23] <genii-around> IdleOne: OK, cool
[04:51] <Corey> InfectedSoul is being abusive in #centos as well.
[05:39] <Flannel> rww: .14.131 instead of .3.133, could be.
[05:40] <rww> same ISP, use of webchat, and I think miroperson used ubuntu* as a nick too
[05:40] <rww> also, you know, the attitude problem
[05:40] <Flannel> rww: There's a 1 in 62025 chance you're right!
[05:41] <genii-around> Heh
[05:41] <rww> no there isn't :(
[06:04] <GTRsdk> I have a question
[06:05] <Flannel> GTRsdk: We have responses!
[06:05] <rww> I have offtopic and vaguely-amusing comments!
[06:05] <GTRsdk> If I want to create a project similar to Lubuntu that is based on Ubuntu, can I create a channel such as #winebuntu?
[06:05] <ldunn> No.
[06:05] <ldunn> oh wait
[06:05] <ldunn> Sorry, yes
[06:05]  * ldunn hits self in face
[06:06] <GTRsdk> Will I have to add a group to the access list?
[06:07] <Flannel> GTRsdk: Regarding your project as a whole, be sure you're aware of the Ubuntu trademark policy: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[06:10] <GTRsdk> Flannel, so I should consider naming it Ubuntu, Wine remix?
[06:11] <Flannel> GTRsdk: Consider it, sure.  I just wanted to make sure you'd seen that, as it's somewhat important :)
[06:12] <Flannel> GTRsdk: Is the bulk of your changes adding wine by default?
[06:12] <rww> you should consider not making yet another derivative of Ubuntu, imnsho
[06:12] <GTRsdk> Flannel, the main changes would be adding Wine, and using the Lubuntu default environment
[06:13] <genii-around> There are other projects which are much further ahead in this kind of endeavour, like REACTos
[06:17] <GTRsdk> Flannel, I was thinking also maybe some wine glasses instead of the circles in the ring (ubuntu logo) and a special wallpaper
[06:18] <Flannel> GTRsdk: If you're just going to change stuff like that (obviously your repos will be very similar) then calling it a remix is probably your best bet.
[06:18] <Flannel> GTRsdk: I suggest Lubuntu Wine Remix orsomething though, since that'll make more sense with what you're doing (taking Lubuntu, remixing it)
[06:19] <GTRsdk> Flannel, and I should probably contact Canonical? so a more appropriate channel would be #lubuntu-wineremix ?
[06:19] <rww> speaking purely from freenode rules, #lubuntu-wineremix is part of the #lubuntu* namespace, and thus subject to their rules
[06:20] <Flannel> GTRsdk: I don't believe you need to contact canonical for the remix, no.  But I am not a lawyer.
[06:21] <rww> and speaking as a Debian and Ubuntu user, I seriously recommend you reconsider making Yet Another Derivative, because it seems to lack a point.
[06:26] <GTRsdk> rww, was Fluxbuntu shut down from Canonical or was it abandoned?
[06:26] <rww> No idea.
[06:42] <GTRsdk> thanks for the info. I don't think I'll create a Winebuntu or a Lubuntu Wine Remix, so I'm out of here
[06:54] <jussi> If anyone is interested, fluxbuntu still lives...
[07:33] <knome> heh?
[08:13] <jussi> knome: backscroll about 6 or 7 lines
[08:15] <knome> jussi, :)
[08:20] <Jordan_U> jussi: Define living...
[08:22] <knome> living != dead
[08:22] <knome> :)
[08:23] <Jordan_U> knome: Define dead in a way that does not accurately describe Fluxbuntu :)
[08:23] <Tm_T> living != dead != living
[08:23] <knome> Jordan_U, dead != living
[08:23] <knome> ;)
[08:24] <rww> this sounds like a perfect time for braaaaaiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnsssssss
[08:29] <genii-around> I just woke up when annoying off-the-air sound of TV screeched, realized I dozed off with computer on lap, bleh. Goodnight
[08:31] <rww> TV channels still go off the air? I thought that was, like, an 80's thing.
[10:12] <Flannel> rww: more like a 70s thing.
[10:12] <Flannel> rww: 80s invented infomercials (well, late 70s)
[10:14] <Flannel> Mmm, no, i guess it was the 80s afterall.
[15:33] <Pici> jpds: Did the 9.04 archives just get moved to old-releases recently? We've had a spike in people asking about installing from that release lately.
[15:58] <ikonia> do I know 15:58 -!- D34X is now known as Dommer
[16:00] <IdleOne> baz hang pasted that yesterday also
[16:01] <ikonia> the DX34 bit is what stands out to me
[16:02] <IdleOne> mahen23 is still banned in -ot? if so he just ban evaded with neoanders@197.225.145.53
[16:02] <ikonia> ace
[16:03] <IdleOne> err .94 that is
[16:03] <IdleOne> .53 was old ip
[16:03] <ikonia> change it to ident at some point
[21:17] <Tm_T> hi slack-m
[21:18] <slack-m> Hello
[21:19] <Tm_T> slack-m: you're aware why you're here?
[21:21] <slack-m> Probably cause I'm banned from #ubuntu cause I accidently sent an amsg out when I was on freenode. I have it on autojoin and sometimes forget to close it before AMSG'ing
[21:23] <Tm_T> I would assume #freenode doesn't enjoy having the "advertisements" either generally
[21:23] <Tm_T> also, you did advertise in #ubuntu twice within 24 hours
[21:25] <Tm_T> slack-m: can we trust you wont advertise in #ubuntu anymore?
[21:38] <Tm_T> slack-m: hello?
[21:40] <slack-m> yes
[21:40] <slack-m> Tm_T, i am sorry
[21:40] <slack-m> about that
[21:40] <slack-m> Tm_T, and yes, i try to never advertise on freenode
[21:40] <slack-m> once in a while i let it slip when im not paying attn
[21:41] <Tm_T> there's other channels too you did which I'm not happy with, but it's not the current business
[21:41] <Tm_T> slack-m: can we trust you wont advertise in #ubuntu anymore?
[21:42] <slack-m> Yes
[21:43] <ikonia> Tm_T: I'm not happy with this
[21:43] <ikonia> the guys doing it in other channels and multiple times in #ubuntu
[21:43] <ikonia> (noting for the record)
[21:43] <Tm_T> twice in #ubuntu, I'm going to talk about the other channels I'm related to in a moment
[21:44] <ikonia> understood
[21:45] <Tm_T> slack-m: the ban is removed for now and you may part this channel, will catch you in PM in a moment
[21:50] <CarlFK> slack-m: seems you are not too interested.  that too seems worth pointing out.
[21:51] <slack-m> I am busy as hell, im a programmer
[21:51] <slack-m> its not that im not interested
[21:51] <slack-m> im just busy
[21:51] <Tm_T> slack-m: ok, you may part this channel
[21:51] <slack-m> and, for the record, what I advertised, was not in any way shape fasion or form to make money.
[21:52] <slack-m> or porn
[21:52] <slack-m> or anything like that
[21:52] <slack-m> just 'for the record'
[21:52] <slack-m> as long as your on the 'for the record' kick
[21:52] <slack-m> what i was advertising was a project i work on personally in my spare time to contribute to the community
[21:53] <Tm_T> that's why I said advertising, not spam
[21:53] <slack-m> ;]
[21:54] <slack-m> and it was an accident
[21:54] <slack-m> seriously
[21:54] <slack-m> cause, no one on freenode plays that game
[21:54] <slack-m> i wouldnt bother trying to direct anything this way
[21:54] <LjL> just goes to show that /amsg is evil :P
[21:54] <Tm_T> never used it, prolly never will
[21:54] <Pici> slack-m: I would have just asked you to not do that, but you had signed off right after you sent the amsg.
[21:55] <slack-m> LjL, im on 5 networks, 4 of which are gamingnetworks and directed at them, as they are all related to the game. freenode is just on my autojoin cause I'm an avid linux user
[21:55] <slack-m> Pici, yea, i signed off so i wouldnt do it again
[21:55] <slack-m> i relised i did it
[21:55] <slack-m> and was like
[21:55] <slack-m> SHIIIIIIIIIIIt
[21:56] <LjL> it's ok mistakes happen, just my personal opinion is that if you have to advertize, you may as well take the time to do it manually to each relevant channel... but that's just my two cents
[21:56] <Tm_T> ok, I'm going to sleep, good night all
[21:56] <LjL> night
[21:56] <slack-m> LjL, i would agree, if i wasnt in 70 channels relevant to the game, and only in channels that are relevant(normally)
[21:56] <slack-m> ;]
[21:56] <slack-m> gn Tm_T
[23:18] <rww> slack-m: if you're all set now, please /part the channel so we can keep better track of who needs help :)
[23:22] <rww> hypatia: did you set your nickserv account to not autovoice or something? (or is my irssi being weird and not showing a +v)
[23:22] <IdleOne> xchat is being also in that case
[23:22] <IdleOne> being weird*
[23:23] <rww> k. she's identified though, so I suspect nickservness
[23:23] <rww> although the "Last seen" seems wrong, so maybe it got confused
[23:31] <hypatia> rww: no idea
[23:32] <rww> hypatia: can you /msg nickserv logout and then /msg nickserv identify etc?