[00:00] depends on who you ask [00:00] I think its best you play with it... read what your doing test the changes and move on! [00:00] webmin is a tool that I feel no one should be using [00:00] you can make your box run like a porche or lock it down so bad that you have to reimage it! [00:02] its really your call! what are you trying to do? [00:02] i'm using an auto install script [00:03] to setup rutorrent [00:03] what is the script going to do? [00:03] its got a bunch of things in it [00:03] which are unrelated [00:03] lol [00:03] one of them being [00:03] hmm... I never played with rutorrent... [00:03] webmin [00:03] your trying to run a torrent server?> [00:04] or is that the client? [00:04] a friend just yelled/advised me against it though, think i won't do it, cuz he's right if i wanna learn linux i shouldn't use fanci GUI's [00:04] a client [00:04] grrrr its just that i've been wanting to install webmin for so long, it eats me up to say no [00:05] to this script lol [00:05] dont worry, it's the same with drugs, so hard to say no [00:05] Yeah.... I think you need to get networking in good order learn some commands and just read, read and do some more reading! :D [00:06] no its not! just say NO! [00:06] but then I wont be *cool* :) [00:07] read and read and read, huh? :) [00:07] fuck being cool! excuse my french! FEED YA BRAIN! [00:07] lol [00:08] uhhh what kind of reading do you mean juniorbisono [00:08] hmm... well for one Linux unleashed! start there. [00:09] get use to your box... learn everything via console... there is not need for no GUI on a linux box... well I dont like to use it! I rather do all my stuff via console.. [00:09] a gui is kind of nice, for all the ssh windows [00:10] run your servers, create your php or html code via a console mod your config files start up and kill your services all via console.. [00:10] you talkin about the book linux unleashed? [00:10] Yes! [00:10] or any book via Linux! [00:10] my question meant, should I be doing book reading or manual reading? [00:10] watch the documentary via netflix :D [00:10] as in the manual of commands/programs [00:11] physical book reading with chapters or PDF's [00:11] :D [00:11] thats the name of this book you talk about? nothing else in its name? just "Linux Unleashed" [00:11] i'll get it if its worth it [00:11] sw0rdfish, do your research.... but get a book that shows you what Linux's about! [00:12] its worth the reading... then get into networking..... and so on! [00:12] then run your servers.. apache, ssh, MySQL, samba anything so you can get an idea of what its all about.... [00:12] YAY! i just typed in NO and hit enter [00:12] its GONE now [00:13] got it over with :) [00:13] haha my friend is saying, Atta boy! [00:13] hesitated for 20 minutes lol asking around googling around [00:13] go get a book.. goto a book store read it, write it highlight it... make notes test what thier talking about... then pass it on :D [00:14] its better than reading a PDF.... force your self you use only the console your first time around... not saying that you can tweak your console! [00:15] i mean hey webmin is just for installing stuff right? and monitoring your system [00:15] only browse the web using lynx and pine for email :) [00:15] i bet there is a cli way to monitor system hardware and software activity [00:15] view the directories... view the files look in them and then ask questions like,.. what does this do.. and so on!.... [00:15] the issue with webmin and things like it is [00:15] pine! wow thats awesome! [00:16] "free -m" and "top" being one of them :) [00:16] patdk-lap, I havent used that in years... but true! [00:16] you are forced to use it, and if you grow beyond what it can do, you must NOT use it, or it will mess with your customizations [00:16] forget WEBMIN! goto your TTY1 and stay there! :D [00:16] :D [00:17] all jokes aside READ! its your best bet! [00:17] the other huge issue with webmin [00:17] is if something breaks, you have no idea how to fix it [00:17] and if you don't use a *webmin* approved fix, your likely to break webmin, when you do fix it [00:17] no WEBMIN for sw0rdfish :D [00:18] hehe :) [00:18] that doesn't sound good patdk-lap [00:19] do this: create a few directories, create a few users reset thier accounts, creat some files, and move and copy file to those users home directories.... [00:20] play with that.. [00:20] also for a good epxlorer type for the console try Midnight Commander... I have used for at least 7 years! [00:20] you can do all that and more with that app.. [00:20] apt-get install mc [00:21] brb! [00:27] epxlorer [00:38] I'm back! sw0rdfish [00:45] juniorbisono, welcome back [00:45] you were saying epxlorer? [00:45] and what is mc? [00:47] mc - Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager [00:49] Yes! mc [00:49] sw0rdfish, google it :D [00:49] its what you need to play in the console :D [00:54] google both of them you mean [00:54] oh nvm [00:54] lol [00:55] console file manager sounds neatg [00:55] neat* [00:55] its really nice.. google image mc linux explorer [01:21] New bug: #793314 in clamav (main) "package clamav-daemon 0.96.5 dfsg-1ubuntu1.10.04.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/793314 === rewt`` is now known as rewt [07:02] hi guys.... is it possible to enter a dns name instead of an IP on the IPSEC setup on my ubuntu server? [07:02] What IPSEC setup? [07:03] twb, it consists of setkey and racoon... and shorewall as the firewall [07:04] twb, in the 'psk.txt' file... I have to enter the public IP of the distination VPN endpoint and the corresponding PSK... can I enter a DNS name instead? [07:04] So this is on IPv4? [07:04] twb.. yes [07:05] No idea, sorry [07:05] no probs.. thanks for checking anyways [07:14] I am able to login to an ubuntu server via ssh within the local network. But when I do so from a different location, I am unable to connect even if port forwarding is enabled. "nmap -p 22" shows port 22 as "filtered". How to change the status to "open"? [07:15] Avi: this is through a NAT? [07:16] twb: yes [07:16] On the NATting router, you need to both DNAT -p tcp --dport ssh --to-destination in mangle *and* ACCEPT -d -p tcp --dport 22 in FORWARD [07:17] Er, in *filter :FORWARD [07:17] That's assuming the most common/obvious issue; there might be some other problem [07:19] twister004: From a slightly fading memory (!), usually IPSEC needs actual static IPs for endpoints, there is a special "road warrior" mode for handling connections from roaming client machines, I think... if the racoon docs say "IP address" then they mean an IP address, not a DNS name. [07:19] jmarsden.... is it possible to have a DNS name in a road warior mode?.. also, any idea what openswan is all about? [07:20] twb: I cannot find any DNAT setting in the router page. [07:20] DNAT is the netfilter (linux) term [07:20] If it's not a linux router, or you don't have a root shell on it, then you'll have to translate accordingly [07:21] Or, obviously, deploy ubuntu or similar as your router :-) [07:21] twister004: Well, as long as the central server is at a static known IP, the road warriors can all connect into it from anywhere, so no DNS name needed for that... openswan is another IPSEC stack, I have not heard that mentioned for several years, I don't know its current state of usefulness. [07:22] jmarsden... so, road warrior is client-server model.. I need a site-to-site implementation that is rock solid even if one side does not have a static IP. [07:23] twister004: You're going to have to read the docs. I know commercial routers can do that these days, I do not know whether the free software IPSEC code can. [07:24] Presumably he has l2tp in there somewhere, too? [07:26] twb: Can this be done: http://www.issociate.de/board/post/186915/iptables_port_forwarding_-_port_is_filtered,_needs_to_be_open.html ? [07:27] twb: the command at the 4th post? [07:29] Avi: ask #netfilter [07:29] twb: ok === rpinson_ is now known as raphink [10:40] New bug: #251795 in krb5 (main) "/etc/environment PATH should not have quotes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251795 [12:30] does Ubuntu lucid server have xen_pcifront module configured by default? grep -i xen_ /boot/configure*** don't show anything [12:30] i have to download the source code and compile the kernel to get it? right? [12:43] Daviey: kim0: do you guys feel that the info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/GettingInvolved is still mostly right? [12:43] it seems to me the task force and mentor bits might not be active right now? [12:44] hallyn: It is becoming reactivated very soon :) [12:44] What I was actually going to first ask was whether you guys felt it might be worthwhile to add a list of specific work items people who want to develop, not bug triage, could do. (Just so I could put 'port netcf to debian on there :) [12:44] kim0: ah, ok [12:44] i hadn't heard about that [12:44] I should have a call with Daviey this week in order to identify specific bite-sized bugs people can work on, as well as other tasks [12:44] hallyn: I'm sure you will hehe :) [12:45] hallyn: thanks for the ping though [12:45] cool, i'll leave it in your capable hands then :) [12:45] thx, ttyl [12:45] later [12:45] hallyn: Yeah, the task force thing was mostly canned.. sadly [12:45] There wasn't the activity to make it worthwhile [12:46] Outstanding merges that we really care about BTW, http://pb.daviey.com/T8KO/raw/ [12:47] there are a few that would suite you well hallyn :) [12:48] Daviey: since my impending leave jsut refuses to arrive (grrr), over the weekend i started on the userns kernel code. lots to be done with that. [12:48] hm, elinks merge [12:49] what's with the multiple links-ssl entries? [12:49] hallyn: the name and version was changed.. so it's barfed with the changelog [12:49] Daviey: all right, so with multipath we're hoping to get 7 old bugs SRU'd. Once that is straightened out, I'm going to try my hand at a merge [12:50] hopefully cmagina will help me test :) but I'm thinking I may merge even if there are some failures [12:50] it jumped from 0.96.20020711-1 'up to' 0.12~pre5-3 [12:50] heh, weird [12:51] hallyn: I'll fix the processing now :P [12:51] maybe i'll do the multipath-tools merge in dublin, in fact, so ppetraki can look over my shoulder and punch me when i do something stupid [12:51] hallyn: You are a rock star. you don't do stupid stuff, right, right? :) [12:53] Daviey: i'm no rock star, but i'd point to a few rock stars who... aren't the brightest bulbs in the package [12:53] (at least they're no politicians) [12:54] Daviey: the libvirt merge *is* being finalized by jdstrand [12:57] think i'll have ensemble set up a jenkins server to compile my userns patches from the weekend [12:57] * hallyn gets giddy [12:57] I'm trying to reduce an lvm lv, and I've run resize2fs to reduce the fs, but are yet to run lvresize. How can I ensure the size of the fs and the lv match? [12:58] lvresize --size 6G is a bit blunt... Can I specify number of sectors here or something more accurate? [12:59] well you can do megabytes, but i don't think it could possibly know about sectors [13:00] suppose i'd just make sure to leave a bit more in the lv than in the fs [13:00] So the safest way would be to reduce the partition a bit more than required, then reduce the lv, and then finally expand the fs to fill the lv [13:00] uh. which partition? [13:00] the partition forming the basis of the pv? [13:01] No, the partition *in* the pg, i.e. the lv partition [13:01] How's that different from "reduce the lv"? [13:02] there's the pv and vg (which have no size per se), and the lv itself. I'm not understanding your difference of 'lv' vs 'lv partition' [13:02] You need to reduce the filesystem (using resize2fs) prior to reducing the lv in order not to lose any data [13:02] so if you skip that part, i'd agree :) [13:02] right [13:02] Both resize2fs and lvresize needs a size specification, and the question was how to align them [13:03] oh so your steps 1 and 3 were about fs, and 2 about lv? then that sounds good [13:03] I agree with hallyn. Shrink the fs slightly more than you need to, shrink the lv, then expand the fs. [13:03] I guess you cannot assume a size, like 6G, will be interpreted to the same size in their respective unit format [13:03] Yes, my point as well [13:04] lvm deals in extents and it rounds up. [13:04] Not sure what resize2fs does. [13:04] anyone around and have a bit of time to assist me? [13:05] mncl-core, how would we know? [13:05] :) [13:06] this is my question.... [13:06] where can i find information on how I can use Ubuntu Server as an Application Server for Multiple-Users connecting over WAN via VNC or RDP. [13:07] Essentially for example, I would like to have Eclipse IDE for example; and have users connecting into a Ubuntu Session, and have access to Eclipse only for example... [13:07] mncl-core: that's a lot of examples [13:08] sorry pretty tired lol, been up like 48 hours [13:08] mncl-core: could you do that over an SSH tunnel? not sure [13:09] ok allow me to rephrase [13:09] * patdk-wk would just go vnc or nx [13:09] hallyn: solved: http://pb.daviey.com/jowm/ [13:09] err, http://pb.daviey.com/jowm/raw/ is probably easier [13:10] cool [13:10] What about the Server Side? What would I need to do to setup Ubuntu as a Multi-User / App Server? [13:11] mncl-core: create users, install app? [13:12] SpamapS: Did https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elinks/0.12~pre5-2ubuntu2 get pushed upstream? [13:14] i'll claim ipsec-tools for starters [13:42] New bug: #793494 in jug (main) "Sync jug 2.0.0-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/793494 [13:54] morning all, happy Monday! === michael is now known as Guest69795 [14:06] jamespage, good morning [14:07] hey hggdh [14:07] jamespage, jenkins is getting hit by OoM on startup [14:07] good morning to you as well [14:07] bah [14:07] time to up the size of the instance for the time being [14:08] I think we'll have to go m1.large as its a 64bit t1.micro [14:12] jamespage, I thought something like that [14:12] :-) [14:25] jamespage: hey, when you have a moment, I'm still having trouble with the jenkins git plugin. I can make a job which does git by hand, but when I use git plugin to fetch the tree, it always fails. I've seen bug reports of similar behavior, though that was from windows [14:35] hallyn: I'm around [14:36] so it could be that you need to install the Maven plugin; the upstream distribution comes with this installed by default [14:36] however I could not fulfill all the required dependencies for packaging (needs Maven 3) so its not included in the jenkins package ATM [14:36] you can install it through the UI. [14:37] hallyn: just point me at the packages and i'll toss them on a system for som basic testing [14:39] hggdh: I'm assuming that the jenkins instance is broke at the moment so I'll upgrade it once I get an ack [14:42] cmagina: ok, in that case, when i finish testing ipsec-tools merge, i'll try multipath-tools again. [14:42] cmagina: thanks [14:43] hallyn: np [14:43] jamespage: i'll try that, thanks [14:43] hallyn - just giving it a test as well [14:44] jamespage: I'm trying the git tree at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=serge/natty-userns.git right now [14:46] jamespage: i'm not seeing which exact plugin (of the hundreds on the available list :) you'd mean [14:46] Maven 2 Plugin [14:49] enabling 'maven 2 project plugin' [14:50] hallyn: what does your error look like? [14:52] I seem to be able to clone git repo's OK but its then trying to tag a build for me (and its a ro URL) [14:57] What would be the most appropriate solution to lockdown a Ubuntu Desktop; allowing VNC Remote Control/or/RDP to the Desktop; Allowing the Logged-In User to ONLY Work in Eclipse and Save Data in his home directory, while disallowing the User to do ANYTHING else. [15:01] hggdh: back up and running on a larger instance size [15:11] hm, i can't get configure to recognize ldap2-dev... [15:23] Has anyone had any luck getting suPHP to work in 10.10? [15:25] can some python foo master explain http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/debian/sid/offlineimap/sid/view/head:/offlineimap/imaplibutil.py to me ? I'm confused by lines 177 to 204. [15:25] it looks to me like a 'try..except NameError..else:' [15:25] which i didn't realize could be done [15:27] hmm... i guess same question as http://stackoverflow.com/questions/855759/python-try-else [15:27] smoser: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0341/ [15:27] Well, not exactly, but it does say that try/except/else blocks are valid. [15:44] zul: ping [15:44] RoakSoAx: whats up? [15:44] zul: do you mind if I assign to myself a couple cobbler work items? [15:44] RoakSoAx: please [15:44] zul: k thanks ;) [15:45] RoAkSoAx: i don't midn if you assign yourself to a few lxc, userns, kvm, or libvirt work items, fwiw. [15:45] :) [15:46] hallyn: hehe I'll see what I can help you with later this week ;) [15:47] Pici, thanks for the response.. the stackoverflow was pretty good. i'd just never seen that before. [15:48] zul, or anyone else, see my query in ubuntu-devel about how to get info from a user on a failed 'apt-get upgrade' [15:50] smoser: /var/log/apt/history /var/log/apt/term.log might have some info in it [15:50] isn't there some tool to collec tthat ? [15:53] Does anyone have a suggestion on a good OpenID server(provider) ? I'd like to run one behind a load balancer for HA. === cerber0s is now known as cerberos [16:04] smoser: apport i think [16:06] <_storrgie_> when I log into my 10.04 servers I get the MOTD where it says I need to update packages... however that never goes away even after I update the packages [16:12] cause the motd updater isn't running [16:16] <_storrgie_> patdk-lap why did it stop? [16:17] heh? I'm not your server, don't ask me [16:28] how do i find out what package a binary comes from? [16:31] slicslak: apt-cache show $BINARYNAME will give you that information. [16:34] ScottK, looks like that shows info for a package, rather than a binary (executable) [16:34] Sorry. I thought you meant binary package. [16:36] slicslak: dpkg -S binary [16:36] e.g. dpkg -S /usr/bin/python [16:36] sweet, thx [16:42] gar, my sysadmin is lying to me. or more likely just doesn't know wht they are talking about. sigh... [16:45] dpkg -S /path/to/binary -- but if the package isn't installed: apt-file search /path/to/binary [16:45] slicslak: ^ [16:50] thanks, stumbled accross http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt while googling for this stuff. [16:52] I'm told that the ffmpeg I have on the server was built from source. There's not source directory sittin around however. I did find a ffmpeg .deb file. dpkg -s tells me that it isn't installed however. dpkg -S and apt-file search say that the package for /usr/bin/ffmpeg is ffmpeg. so i assume that it's not lying and it's the standard ffmpeg from whatever repository that is installed. [16:52] does that sound right to you guys? [16:55] hey all - with ubuntu server install (11.04) during the partitioning section, I'm trying to use LVM but it won't let me select the size of the swap partition that I want, it automatically sets it for me. Any ideas? [16:58] Daviey: fwiw, ipsec-tools merge "pretty much done", but it fails to build from source, even in debian sid. emailed the maintainer. so if anyone asks, it's in progress [16:58] Daviey: how is the spice package push to universe going? [17:01] SpamapS: you are working on elinks merge, is that right? [17:04] hallyn: Where is the spice package at the moment? [17:04] hallyn: FTBFS is mere detail :). Nice work tho. [17:04] uh, same place. people.canonical.com [17:05] Hey, I have a (noob) question. I'd like to create a drop directory for everyone to access in our windows network (using samba) but where should I create that directory on my server? [17:06] http://people.canonical.com/~serge/qemu-kvm-spice-0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu4.tgz spice-gtk_0.5-1ubuntu2-debs.tgz spice-gtk-debs.tgz [17:06] hm [17:06] Daviey: no, that's not it [17:06] Daviey: they're in ppa:serge-hallyn/spice2 :-) [17:07] kirkland: Which package is used for full disk encryption? An upstream developer for Amarok that uses Kubuntu is having full disk encryption trouble at work (some machines only boot every other time) and I'd like to see if there are existing bugs on this. [17:07] Daviey: i'm looking at etckeeper next. (then multipath-tools) [17:07] ScottK: kirkland is out of the office this week, but if you accept answers from other people - perhaps LUKS ? [17:07] Daviey: etckeeper is uptodate, not ure why it's on your list [17:07] Daviey: Definitely. Thanks. [17:08] hallyn: it was sync'd 2 hours ago :) [17:08] merged rather [17:09] by zul [17:10] Hey :) Here is the problem. I got a VPS from a server company, and a customer needs it in like an hour. The thing is, its not accepting connections from external IPs [17:11] Jasonn, In that instance, you'd probably be better speaking with the provider. I imagine it's a common issue with their setup that they can quickly answer. [17:12] (hunch is malconfigured networking, firewall (iptables / ufw) or hey miscofigured IP allocation within their network) [17:12] Iv had experience with their support, and they usually take hours if not more than a day to answer. The customer is paying $50/mo for this box, and I need to get it set up right now [17:12] I can ssh into the box from their special SSH login [17:12] seriously?! 50 USD per month, and they take days to respond?! [17:13] $20 * [17:13] Sorry, I hit the wrong number [17:13] ah [17:13] I mean, its $20 on my ass [17:13] Think you can take a look at it? [17:13] special ssh login is probably equivilant to serial console which bypasses networking [17:13] yes [17:14] it is [17:14] Daviey: d'oh! [17:14] :) [17:14] Jasonn: Have you tried connecting from an additional place? [17:15] From another IP? [17:15] No [17:15] ie, just to check that the IP you are connecting from hasn't been blockd. [17:15] Hmm [17:15] ill try, give me a min [17:15] Jasonn: What is the IP address of the VPS? [17:17] Jasonn: can you ping outwards from the VPS? [17:18] Daviey: re elinks, I don't recall. [17:18] hallyn: no I haven't been working on an elinks merge its definitely up for grabs [17:18] * SpamapS wonders if this is all spelled out in the 500 emails he has to get through :-P [17:18] Daviey: No, I cannot ping outwards either [17:18] i don't think so. i'm still behind on emails myself though [17:19] SpamapS: ^ [17:19] Jasonn, raise a support ticket :) [17:19] :( [17:20] Can you SSH into it with the dets I gave you in PM [17:20] ? [17:20] the serial console [17:21] New bug: #793632 in puppet (main) "puppetmaster and puppet have clashing logrotate configs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/793632 [17:22] Jasonn, networking isn't configured, see ifconfig and /etc/network/interfaces [17:22] Can you configure it? [17:23] Pleasee <333 [17:23] Jasonn: I really can't trial and error to get the correct values. [17:24] I can copy the values from another VPS on the same provider [17:24] would that work? [17:24] possibly. === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [17:27] RoAkSoAx ping [17:27] lynxman: pong [17:28] hey o/ [17:28] * Daviey waits for < RoAkSoAx> ho o/ [17:28] Daviey: Can I pastebin a copy of the interfaces file on my personal box and can you tell me if it would work if I put it on the other one? [17:28] Daviey: :> [17:28] Daviey: o/ [17:30] anyone have experience installing w/LVM and being able to select partitioning sizes? [17:33] What text editor is preinstalled on ubuntu? [17:33] other than nano ? [17:34] vim-tiny [17:34] Jasonn: go for it/ [17:35] How do i exit vim? [17:35] this always pisses me off [17:36] :q [17:36] hallyn: you can't quit irc :P [17:36] What if it types into the actual file? [17:36] heh [17:36] Jasonn: hit escape [17:36] Jasonn: press escape first [17:36] then :q [17:37] does that save it? === med_out is now known as medberry [17:39] Pici: How do I save something in vim? [17:39] Jasonn: :w [17:39] thanks [17:39] :) [17:40] When you restart the computer, new changes to the interfaces file should take effect, right? [17:43] depends on if you rstarted it truely, or just hibernated/sleep [17:48] Dear Customer.The internet connection to which your seedbox is connected has suffered a failure due to unknown reasons. Our technical team if working non-stop to resolve the issue. Keep in mind, that when the problem has been resolved, you will be refunded for time that your seedbox was unavailable for. [17:48] D: [17:48] Had to send that email [17:58] heh === unreal_ is now known as unreal [18:04] Daviey: mind sponsoring http://people.canonical.com/~serge/elinks_0.12~pre5-3.2ubuntu1-package.tgz for oneiric? (tests fine here) [18:06] hallyn: you and your tgz's! [18:06] got a pref? [18:06] tbz? :) [18:07] hallyn: if you just push it in native format, i can run one command to grab and extract it :) [18:07] ie, give me the dsc url [18:07] grabbing it now [18:08] Daviey: good point [18:08] * RoAkSoAx can sponsor main uploads as well now :) [18:09] RoAkSoAx: oh, cool. i'll remember that :) [18:10] RoAkSoAx, \o/ Well done :) [18:10] hallyn: hehye [18:10] Daviey: :D [18:13] hallyn, looks good, http://pb.daviey.com/XEJ3/raw/ .. Can you forward the imdb patch? [18:13] uploading. [18:13] * hallyn curses whoever didn't do so in the first place [18:14] heh === NG_ is now known as ng_ [18:20] Daviey: well, it was sent upstream actually [18:21] I just love yum .. needs 200MB of RAM to resolve 100 dependencies. :-P [18:23] why are you using yum? [18:27] smoser: ping [18:28] howdy [18:28] smoser: howdy!! I [18:28] smoser: howdy!! I'm merging new upstream release of nut [18:28] and I saw debian/patches/debian-changes-2.6.0-1: remove that accidental file [18:28] smoser: so i was wondering if this is the same you saw there: debian/patches/debian-changes-2.6.0-1: remove that accidental file [18:28] argh [18:28] smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/620109/ [18:31] i think so, yes [18:31] how did that get back there? [18:31] smoser: alright I guess I'll just drop it [18:31] well you should drop it. [18:32] it should not be there. [18:32] smoser: the thing is that if you erase it from debian/patches it won't be dropped becuase it is applied in .pc/ [18:32] smoser: so you have to do quilt pop -a first [18:32] as all changes should be accounted for in the debian/patches/series [18:32] and then erase the change [18:32] s/change/patch [18:32] its possible i missed that... but i know that i built ones locally that did not have that change. [18:32] versioned .pc is a freaking mess [18:33] smoser: yeah I just end up cleaning it up by unapplying all the patches and erasing it so it creates a new one [18:34] smoser: cause I've encountered that in many cases where the patch gets applied, and sometimes the info is not in .pc so if you end up dropping from debian/patches/series, then it automatically gets created because it detected changes in the source that are put into a patch [18:34] smoser: to fix, in reality, is simply un-applying the patches [18:34] so, please, get that crap out of there. [18:34] once that one is created [18:34] and then, once you un-apply, then remove it [18:34]