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pleia2ok, running out to grocery store because I have no food, trying to get home by 7 for meeting, wish me luck :)01:12
nhainesYokoZar: good evening!02:15
YokoZarnhaines: cheers02:33
MarkDudeSo the 1st agenda item is emacs vs vim?02:34
MarkDudeThis should beinteresting02:34
philipballewA fight to the deth perhpas is about to take place02:42
grantbowdon't tempt us troublemakers02:43
philipballewpick vi pivk vi!!!02:43
grantbowIt was graduation day near the cafe I'm in. To all the graduates listening, Happy Graduation!02:45
MarkDudeItem 2 RMS, God, or just Demi-God?02:51
MarkDudehmm I will go get popcorn02:52
jdeslipHi All02:58
grantbowhi02:58
philipballewhello!02:58
MarkDudehttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/RMS.jpg02:59
grantbowI saw a tweet that lyz is getting food.02:59
MarkDudeBefore the meeting- an RMS GNU-joke02:59
MarkDudeIn good humor of course02:59
jdeslipLet's wait a few minutes for pleia2, since she knows most about the main topic today03:00
Eurekawiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11July03 edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11June19 edited03:04
pleia2hello :)03:04
grantbowgreetings03:05
jdeslipHurray03:05
pleia2yes, I have food now \o/03:05
pleia2ok, let's get started03:06
pleia2http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11June503:06
pleia2the only thing we have on the agenda is our reapproval application03:07
pleia2I sent an email to the list, got a few replies, but I just wanted to point it out again in case folks didn't see it and want to help: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2011-May/001691.html03:07
pleia2I put a super basic skeleton up, but we need to flesh it out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ApprovalApplication201103:08
pleia2reapproval shouldn't be hard, we've been doing team reports monthly since we got approved in 2009 \o/03:08
grantbowwhat dates do we need to pay atention to?03:08
pleia2dates where?03:08
* dragon walks in, find a seat in the back, and gets seated quietly without disturbing the decorum of the meeting.03:08
grantbowI mean deadlines03:09
pleia2we just need to get the approval app in before october03:09
pleia2I'd prefer to do it earlier just to get it over with though03:09
pleia2other questions?03:10
grantbowoh, good. :-)03:11
jdeslipPerhaps it would be a good idea to link to our original approval  application at the bottom03:11
pleia2yeah, we can do that03:12
pleia2and we'll review the whole thing at a meeting before we send it in to make sure everyone gets their stuff in03:12
grantbowpleia2: you aren't a member?03:12
pleia2grantbow: we have a lot of members not listed, I just copied over the skeleton from the old app03:13
pleia2I haven't actually started updating it :)03:13
grantbowaha!03:13
pleia2myself, DarkwingDuck, iheartubuntu, philipballew...03:13
pleia2lots of members!03:13
pleia2oh erichammond too03:13
grantbowhe asked not to be listed last time03:13
pleia2fair enough03:13
pleia2not sure why we list them anyway tbh03:14
grantbowafter an IRC meeting that the log is available for03:14
pleia2we can ask folks if they want to be on it03:14
grantbowsounds like a good plan03:14
pleia2anyway, we'll review that when it's in a more finished state :)03:14
pleia2since that's the only agenda item, I think we can open it up to announcements, etc that people have03:15
pleia2wednesday is ipv6 day, sf ubuntu hour and debian dinner :) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2011-June/001733.html03:15
jledbetterCool03:16
pleia2and as always... other upcoming events are here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california03:16
philipballewsac Ubuntu hour this friday. im sending out the email tonight and uploading it to the wiki03:16
pleia2philipballew: cool, let us know if you need help adding it to the loco directory03:16
grantbowand the wiki pages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/03:17
jdeslipphilipballew: good luck!03:17
MarkDudeGeeknic- July 18th Heather Farms03:17
pleia2MarkDude: woohoo03:17
grantbowphilipballew: great03:17
pleia2MarkDude: MJ can't make it since he's on call :( but I'm coming up03:17
MarkDudeDay after the Jono loud music show in SF03:17
jledbetterhaha After I leave, of course ;)03:17
MarkDudeHmm, well eps- acan you grill master03:17
MarkDudecrap jledbetter03:18
epsWe'll see.03:18
grantbowsbay.org pizza after Geeknic too03:18
MarkDudeCool03:19
MarkDudeJono has his new drummer- and NOPE- its not grantbow03:19
pleia2hehe03:19
MarkDudehe turned it down03:19
MarkDudeAlthough his stage diving was freakin' epic03:20
grantbowI'm  too good for them03:20
MarkDudetrue03:20
pleia2haha grantbow++03:20
MarkDudeYou let them down easy G03:20
MarkDudeThat was nice of you03:20
grantbowhehe03:20
pleia2any other announcements, comments, questions?03:20
pleia2oh! I mentioned ipv6 day on wednesday, do we want to see if we can get an AAAA record for ubuntu-california.org set up so we can participate?03:21
grantbowsounds good03:21
pleia2our linode has ipv6 (well, it will by wednesday, I am waiting on some people so I can do a reboot to enable it)03:21
* pleia2 has had a very ipv6 weekend prepping all her stuff :)03:22
grantbow::+103:22
pleia2hehe03:23
pleia2alrighty, I think we're ready to wrap up for the evening then03:23
pleia2thanks everyone :)03:24
pleia2jledbetter: when are you in town?03:25
grantbowthank you pleia2 :)03:25
MarkDudeJono- when will you be on staage?03:26
grantbowMarkDude: don't you know? :-P www.severedfifth.com/live/03:26
MarkDudejledbetter, we may have another small event in WC when you are here03:27
MarkDudegrantbow, the time always changes03:27
grantbowtell me about it03:27
MarkDudelol03:27
MarkDudeI forgot about that last time03:27
jledbetterpleia2, end of the month03:28
MarkDudehow long you here for?03:28
jonoMarkDude, not sure, maybe 10pm03:28
jledbetterAbit (logged) :)03:29
MarkDudeWe are doing sumthin the start of July also03:29
* MarkDude no longer sees that word :)03:29
MarkDudewe can talk later03:29
jledbetterlol Sounds good :)03:29
MarkDudeat a minimum- we are having a jledbetter coffe-palooza-stravaganza03:30
MarkDudeworking title03:30
MarkDude:D03:30
pleia2+103:30
MarkDudeyour attendance is not optional- although we will work around your schedule03:30
MarkDude;)03:31
sn9pleia2: is 6in4 considered a second-class citizen when it comes to ipv6 day?03:31
pleia2sn9: ipv6 day is for providers who are hosting v6 content, can that be done 6in4?03:31
sn9probably03:32
jledbetterMarkDude, Nut ;)03:32
pleia2probably would be considered 2nd class citizens though :)03:32
pleia2I spent my weekend making sure native support was working on all my servers (except the one at home, no comcast ipv6 here yet)03:32
sn9afaik, sonic.net offers 6in4 to all customers, thus giving everyone direct access to the ipv6 internet03:33
sn9and last i checked, comcast closed this off to new accounts03:33
* MarkDude resembles that remark03:34
pleia2as far as I know comcast is still doing native ipv6 trials (we're on the trial list, but it hasn't gotten to our neighborhood yet)03:36
sn9comcast's ipv6 is still 6in403:36
pleia2strange, since they're a straight ipv6 carrier for a nice chunk of the midwest03:37
epsAre there any consumer-grade routers that support IPv6 out of the box?03:38
pleia2yep03:38
epsReally? I was under the impression the usual Linksys, Netgear stuff hadn't evolved03:39
pleia2I think sixxs had a list, sec03:39
pleia2http://www.sixxs.net/wiki/Routers03:39
grantbowhi rww03:40
rwwI suspect I'm a little late for IRC meeting :|03:40
pleia2yeah03:40
pleia2buffalo and d-link are pretty common names in consumer-land, and they both have offerings, looks like linksys and netgear don't yet03:40
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* pleia2 wanders back to todo list03:43
nhainespleia2: I've found 'task' to be a really cute todo list.03:43
grantbowcan someone please update the topic for the next meeting? thanks04:03
jledbettergrantbow, wasn't it already? June 1904:05
grantbowoops, my mistake04:06
grantbowjust running through the checklist04:07
grantbowif someone could please post the log of the meeting I would appreciate it.04:09
grantbowMy irssi config needs to get fixed to enable logging by default.04:09
rwwApologies if this has come up already, but since we're now publicly logged and irclogs.ubuntu.com formats better than the wiki, perhaps just linking there would be better (and easier)04:10
sn9heh04:10
grantbowperhaps04:10
grantbowagenda item for two weeks from now?04:10
rwwpleia2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Portfolio is a little more up to date than our original application, btw. Dunno if you know about it already.04:11
rwwWe were originally going to keep that URL up to date and copypaste it on reapproval, rather than doing everything at once. Then stuff happened :|04:12
rwwI got IPv6 on my Linode too, was very nicely simple. Can't get it at home though, Comcast wanted to upgrade us to a DOCSIS 3 router and our house's cabling is too bad for it :(04:14
rwws/router/modem/04:15
Eurekawiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Menu edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/Current edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings edited04:17
pleia2nhaines: 'task'?05:48
pleia2rww: oh neat, I figure team reports are "good enough" for a Portfolio type thing unless someone wants to continue maintaining it (team reports are already enough for me)05:51
Eurekawiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11May22 edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11June5 edited06:01
nhainespleia2: Taskwarrior is a sophisticated command line todo list and task manager with a lot of features.  http://taskwarrior.org/06:01
pleia2nhaines: cool, thanks :)06:01
nhainespleia2: a neat little tool I found when working to see if I could do a big project in an insufficient amount of time.  (I couldn't, but I knew by how much, heh.)06:02
pleia2need to update my linode, is still on lenny and no task06:04
pleia2heh, this is nice06:05
nhainesAww.06:05
nhainesThere's tdl, but I haven't used it yet.06:06
pleia2task ls, I love it :)06:06
nhaineshaha, yup!06:06
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=== DrStrangelove is now known as sn9
* pleia2 upgraded linode to install task20:10
pleia2(ok, not the only reason! but it was the tipping point)20:10
pleia2elizabeth@coruscant:~$ task 3 done20:12
pleia2Completed 3 'upgrade linode to squeeze'20:12
pleia2Marked 1 task as done20:12
pleia2\o/20:12
nhaines\o/20:22
jamaltassh root@69.164.194.9720:27
pleia2is that a challenge?20:27
jamaltaoops, screwed up my term.20:27
pleia2:P20:27
pleia2hehe20:27
jamaltait wasn't :(20:28
pleia2hooray for linodes20:28
jamaltahehe20:28
pleia2I follow far too many people on twitter who care about apple :\20:29
crashsystemslikewise20:30
seidosi don't \o/20:30
* seidos tumbles around \o/ /o\ \o/ /o\20:31
DarkwingDuckLOL20:34
crashsystemsI may just turn off my internets during the meeting/conference/keynote/whatever20:34
pleia2hehe20:34
crashsystemseveryone is gonna be like "OMG, this device that was once only in black now comes in white. Revolutionary!"20:35
seidoswhy does building revolutionary devices have to be so hard :(20:35
jamaltai just ignore it and watch E3 instead :)20:46
crashsystemsLOL --> https://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb11-13.html20:54
sn9why is that funny?20:56
crashsystemsbecause I've got a twisted sense of humor.20:57
iheartubuntuhas anyone had experience with a DVD drive no longer responding in ubuntu? this is my first time :|21:11
iheartubuntuthere is power to it :) i can open and close the drive21:12
iheartubuntutyping eject in a terminal also works21:12
iheartubuntualso, when i type "sudo lshw -C disk" it lists the drive no problem21:16
iheartubuntuDoes anyone know what the new Pirates of Caribbean movie is rated?21:24
seidosiheartubuntu: pg-13?21:25
iheartubuntuNo, its rated AAAARRRRRGGGGHHH21:25
iheartubuntuWhat a pirates favorite hobby?21:26
iheartubuntuGGAAAAARRRRRRdening21:26
iheartubuntuwe need some linux jokes21:26
seidosi can't wait for the movie "pirates vs ninjas" to come out21:26
seidosor maybe "pirates and ninjas"21:26
sn9maybe "pirates über ninjas"21:27
iheartubuntuwhy did the pirate buy an eye patch?21:28
iheartubuntuhe didnt have enough money for an ipad21:28
seidosuber pirate ninjas?  i've gone to far.  i must walk the sepuku plank21:28
sn9rofl21:28
seidosiheartubuntu: or he didn't have enough skills to run iLinux21:29
iheartubuntudo you know what kind of grades pirates get in school?21:29
iheartubuntuhigh seas21:29
iheartubuntudoes anyone know why pirating is so addictive?21:31
seidosnot a clue21:31
iheartubuntuwell, once you lose your first hand, you get hooked!21:31
seidosokay, let me try.  these are open source jokes, so feel free to improve them.21:36
seidoswhat did Bush say to Kerry?21:37
nhainesiheartubuntu: what's a pirate's favorite crime?21:37
iheartubuntuAAAAAARRRRR you asking me?21:38
iheartubuntuI have no idea!21:38
nhainesArson!21:38
nhainesWhat's a pirate's favorite restaurant?21:38
* iheartubuntu thinking of pirate words21:38
iheartubuntuno idea21:38
seidosLong John Silvers21:39
nhainesseidos: that's the one!  (Not Arby's)21:39
nhainesakk: what's a pirate's favorite type of sock?21:40
iheartubuntuleggings21:40
nhainesArrr-gyle.21:40
iheartubuntuhaha21:41
akkhaha21:45
* akk was out shopping for pirate parts ... for the Arrrr-duino21:45
akkAt codechix yesterday we were talking about possible local arduino classes, and wondering how cheap you can get one -- turns out you can build one for about $8.21:47
iheartubuntuwhat did the pirate say when his wooden leg got stuck in the freezer?21:48
akkshiver me timbers!21:48
iheartubuntuyup :)21:49
akkWhat does that mean, anyway? When it doesn't involve a freezer.21:49
seidosprobably the sail masts shaking?21:50
akkmakes sense! I bet you're right21:50
pleia2akk: oh, so codechix does have meetings! I can't figure out their website :\21:50
seidosi guess when we say we are talking about our dwelling21:51
seidos*it21:51
akkpleia2: We do! Three different types. It's very complicated and that groupspaces website is impossible to figure out.21:51
akkHack meets (which is what yesterday was), social gatherings and occasional meetings to listen to a speaker.21:52
nhainesweb 2.0! \o/21:52
pleia2well there is the pbworks site, then the groupspaces site, and I don't see actual meeting dates of venues listed anywhere21:52
pleia2cool21:52
pleia2s/of/or21:52
akkThere are meeting dates on groupspaces if you join the group, but even if you join it's hard to find them.21:52
pleia2that's not optimal21:53
akk@codechix on twitter might be a better way of finding out, but that's not optimal either.21:53
pleia2I don't want to join if they're all very far away and I can't attend anyway21:53
akkyeah, I know. I don't like the new site.21:53
akkUsed to be on meetup but they started charging too much, or something.21:53
pleia2ah21:53
akk(I don't like meetup either but it's easier than groupspaces)21:53
pleia2yeah21:53
pleia2twitter is actually more useful, thanks :)21:54
akkRupa is into this modern social networking thing and doesn't just want to make it a simple mailing list or whatever.21:54
pleia2the bay area geek girl dinners are similarly scheduled badly21:55
akkyep, they're just as hard to figure out21:55
pleia2they post on facebook and twitter, and by the time I see it it's always sold out21:55
pleia2email would be nice21:55
akkand the pystar python workshop a month or two ago -- I signed up to help with that three different places and still never got notified that it was actually happening21:55
pleia2the internet is hard :)21:55
akkand the only reason I know it happened is that I follow someone who tweeted "I'm at pystar right now, whee!"21:55
pleia2heh21:55
akkwhich made me very grumpy since I'd tried quite hard to be involved with it, including exchanging personal email with the organizer21:56
pleia2yeah21:56
akkReally, how hard is it to set up a yahoo/google groups mailing list for people who want to make sure they get announcements?21:56
pleia2I guess kids these days don't use email21:57
akkyeah21:57
seidosi <3 email21:59
seidoswb iheartubuntu22:04
iheartubuntupower went out22:05
iheartubuntuAAAAARRRRR22:05

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