[01:12] <pleia2> ok, running out to grocery store because I have no food, trying to get home by 7 for meeting, wish me luck :)
[02:15] <nhaines> YokoZar: good evening!
[02:33] <YokoZar> nhaines: cheers
[02:34] <MarkDude> So the 1st agenda item is emacs vs vim?
[02:34] <MarkDude> This should beinteresting
[02:42] <philipballew> A fight to the deth perhpas is about to take place
[02:43] <grantbow> don't tempt us troublemakers
[02:43] <philipballew> pick vi pivk vi!!!
[02:45] <grantbow> It was graduation day near the cafe I'm in. To all the graduates listening, Happy Graduation!
[02:51] <MarkDude> Item 2 RMS, God, or just Demi-God?
[02:52] <MarkDude> hmm I will go get popcorn
[02:58] <jdeslip> Hi All
[02:58] <grantbow> hi
[02:58] <philipballew> hello!
[02:59] <MarkDude> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/RMS.jpg
[02:59] <grantbow> I saw a tweet that lyz is getting food.
[02:59] <MarkDude> Before the meeting- an RMS GNU-joke
[02:59] <MarkDude> In good humor of course
[03:00] <jdeslip> Let's wait a few minutes for pleia2, since she knows most about the main topic today
[03:04] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11July03 edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11June19 edited
[03:04] <pleia2> hello :)
[03:05] <grantbow> greetings
[03:05] <jdeslip> Hurray
[03:05] <pleia2> yes, I have food now \o/
[03:06] <pleia2> ok, let's get started
[03:06] <pleia2> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11June5
[03:07] <pleia2> the only thing we have on the agenda is our reapproval application
[03:07] <pleia2> I sent an email to the list, got a few replies, but I just wanted to point it out again in case folks didn't see it and want to help: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2011-May/001691.html
[03:08] <pleia2> I put a super basic skeleton up, but we need to flesh it out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ApprovalApplication2011
[03:08] <pleia2> reapproval shouldn't be hard, we've been doing team reports monthly since we got approved in 2009 \o/
[03:08] <grantbow> what dates do we need to pay atention to?
[03:08] <pleia2> dates where?
[03:08]  * dragon walks in, find a seat in the back, and gets seated quietly without disturbing the decorum of the meeting.
[03:09] <grantbow> I mean deadlines
[03:09] <pleia2> we just need to get the approval app in before october
[03:09] <pleia2> I'd prefer to do it earlier just to get it over with though
[03:10] <pleia2> other questions?
[03:11] <grantbow> oh, good. :-)
[03:11] <jdeslip> Perhaps it would be a good idea to link to our original approval  application at the bottom
[03:12] <pleia2> yeah, we can do that
[03:12] <pleia2> and we'll review the whole thing at a meeting before we send it in to make sure everyone gets their stuff in
[03:12] <grantbow> pleia2: you aren't a member?
[03:13] <pleia2> grantbow: we have a lot of members not listed, I just copied over the skeleton from the old app
[03:13] <pleia2> I haven't actually started updating it :)
[03:13] <grantbow> aha!
[03:13] <pleia2> myself, DarkwingDuck, iheartubuntu, philipballew...
[03:13] <pleia2> lots of members!
[03:13] <pleia2> oh erichammond too
[03:13] <grantbow> he asked not to be listed last time
[03:13] <pleia2> fair enough
[03:14] <pleia2> not sure why we list them anyway tbh
[03:14] <grantbow> after an IRC meeting that the log is available for
[03:14] <pleia2> we can ask folks if they want to be on it
[03:14] <grantbow> sounds like a good plan
[03:14] <pleia2> anyway, we'll review that when it's in a more finished state :)
[03:15] <pleia2> since that's the only agenda item, I think we can open it up to announcements, etc that people have
[03:15] <pleia2> wednesday is ipv6 day, sf ubuntu hour and debian dinner :) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2011-June/001733.html
[03:16] <jledbetter> Cool
[03:16] <pleia2> and as always... other upcoming events are here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california
[03:16] <philipballew> sac Ubuntu hour this friday. im sending out the email tonight and uploading it to the wiki
[03:16] <pleia2> philipballew: cool, let us know if you need help adding it to the loco directory
[03:17] <grantbow> and the wiki pages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/
[03:17] <jdeslip> philipballew: good luck!
[03:17] <MarkDude> Geeknic- July 18th Heather Farms
[03:17] <pleia2> MarkDude: woohoo
[03:17] <grantbow> philipballew: great
[03:17] <pleia2> MarkDude: MJ can't make it since he's on call :( but I'm coming up
[03:17] <MarkDude> Day after the Jono loud music show in SF
[03:17] <jledbetter> haha After I leave, of course ;)
[03:17] <MarkDude> Hmm, well eps- acan you grill master
[03:18] <MarkDude> crap jledbetter
[03:18] <eps> We'll see.
[03:18] <grantbow> sbay.org pizza after Geeknic too
[03:19] <MarkDude> Cool
[03:19] <MarkDude> Jono has his new drummer- and NOPE- its not grantbow
[03:19] <pleia2> hehe
[03:19] <MarkDude> he turned it down
[03:20] <MarkDude> Although his stage diving was freakin' epic
[03:20] <grantbow> I'm  too good for them
[03:20] <MarkDude> true
[03:20] <pleia2> haha grantbow++
[03:20] <MarkDude> You let them down easy G
[03:20] <MarkDude> That was nice of you
[03:20] <grantbow> hehe
[03:20] <pleia2> any other announcements, comments, questions?
[03:21] <pleia2> oh! I mentioned ipv6 day on wednesday, do we want to see if we can get an AAAA record for ubuntu-california.org set up so we can participate?
[03:21] <grantbow> sounds good
[03:21] <pleia2> our linode has ipv6 (well, it will by wednesday, I am waiting on some people so I can do a reboot to enable it)
[03:22]  * pleia2 has had a very ipv6 weekend prepping all her stuff :)
[03:22] <grantbow> ::+1
[03:23] <pleia2> hehe
[03:23] <pleia2> alrighty, I think we're ready to wrap up for the evening then
[03:24] <pleia2> thanks everyone :)
[03:25] <pleia2> jledbetter: when are you in town?
[03:25] <grantbow> thank you pleia2 :)
[03:26] <MarkDude> Jono- when will you be on staage?
[03:26] <grantbow> MarkDude: don't you know? :-P www.severedfifth.com/live/
[03:27] <MarkDude> jledbetter, we may have another small event in WC when you are here
[03:27] <MarkDude> grantbow, the time always changes
[03:27] <grantbow> tell me about it
[03:27] <MarkDude> lol
[03:27] <MarkDude> I forgot about that last time
[03:28] <jledbetter> pleia2, end of the month
[03:28] <MarkDude> how long you here for?
[03:28] <jono> MarkDude, not sure, maybe 10pm
[03:29] <jledbetter> Abit (logged) :)
[03:29] <MarkDude> We are doing sumthin the start of July also
[03:29]  * MarkDude no longer sees that word :)
[03:29] <MarkDude> we can talk later
[03:29] <jledbetter> lol Sounds good :)
[03:30] <MarkDude> at a minimum- we are having a jledbetter coffe-palooza-stravaganza
[03:30] <MarkDude> working title
[03:30] <MarkDude> :D
[03:30] <pleia2> +1
[03:30] <MarkDude> your attendance is not optional- although we will work around your schedule
[03:31] <MarkDude> ;)
[03:31] <sn9> pleia2: is 6in4 considered a second-class citizen when it comes to ipv6 day?
[03:31] <pleia2> sn9: ipv6 day is for providers who are hosting v6 content, can that be done 6in4?
[03:32] <sn9> probably
[03:32] <jledbetter> MarkDude, Nut ;)
[03:32] <pleia2> probably would be considered 2nd class citizens though :)
[03:32] <pleia2> I spent my weekend making sure native support was working on all my servers (except the one at home, no comcast ipv6 here yet)
[03:33] <sn9> afaik, sonic.net offers 6in4 to all customers, thus giving everyone direct access to the ipv6 internet
[03:33] <sn9> and last i checked, comcast closed this off to new accounts
[03:34]  * MarkDude resembles that remark
[03:36] <pleia2> as far as I know comcast is still doing native ipv6 trials (we're on the trial list, but it hasn't gotten to our neighborhood yet)
[03:36] <sn9> comcast's ipv6 is still 6in4
[03:37] <pleia2> strange, since they're a straight ipv6 carrier for a nice chunk of the midwest
[03:38] <eps> Are there any consumer-grade routers that support IPv6 out of the box?
[03:38] <pleia2> yep
[03:39] <eps> Really? I was under the impression the usual Linksys, Netgear stuff hadn't evolved
[03:39] <pleia2> I think sixxs had a list, sec
[03:39] <pleia2> http://www.sixxs.net/wiki/Routers
[03:40] <grantbow> hi rww
[03:40] <rww> I suspect I'm a little late for IRC meeting :|
[03:40] <pleia2> yeah
[03:40] <pleia2> buffalo and d-link are pretty common names in consumer-land, and they both have offerings, looks like linksys and netgear don't yet
[03:43]  * pleia2 wanders back to todo list
[03:43] <nhaines> pleia2: I've found 'task' to be a really cute todo list.
[04:03] <grantbow> can someone please update the topic for the next meeting? thanks
[04:05] <jledbetter> grantbow, wasn't it already? June 19
[04:06] <grantbow> oops, my mistake
[04:07] <grantbow> just running through the checklist
[04:09] <grantbow> if someone could please post the log of the meeting I would appreciate it.
[04:09] <grantbow> My irssi config needs to get fixed to enable logging by default.
[04:10] <rww> Apologies if this has come up already, but since we're now publicly logged and irclogs.ubuntu.com formats better than the wiki, perhaps just linking there would be better (and easier)
[04:10] <sn9> heh
[04:10] <grantbow> perhaps
[04:10] <grantbow> agenda item for two weeks from now?
[04:11] <rww> pleia2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Portfolio is a little more up to date than our original application, btw. Dunno if you know about it already.
[04:12] <rww> We were originally going to keep that URL up to date and copypaste it on reapproval, rather than doing everything at once. Then stuff happened :|
[04:14] <rww> I got IPv6 on my Linode too, was very nicely simple. Can't get it at home though, Comcast wanted to upgrade us to a DOCSIS 3 router and our house's cabling is too bad for it :(
[04:15] <rww> s/router/modem/
[04:17] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Menu edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/Current edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings edited
[05:48] <pleia2> nhaines: 'task'?
[05:51] <pleia2> rww: oh neat, I figure team reports are "good enough" for a Portfolio type thing unless someone wants to continue maintaining it (team reports are already enough for me)
[06:01] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11May22 edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11June5 edited
[06:01] <nhaines> pleia2: Taskwarrior is a sophisticated command line todo list and task manager with a lot of features.  http://taskwarrior.org/
[06:01] <pleia2> nhaines: cool, thanks :)
[06:02] <nhaines> pleia2: a neat little tool I found when working to see if I could do a big project in an insufficient amount of time.  (I couldn't, but I knew by how much, heh.)
[06:04] <pleia2> need to update my linode, is still on lenny and no task
[06:05] <pleia2> heh, this is nice
[06:05] <nhaines> Aww.
[06:06] <nhaines> There's tdl, but I haven't used it yet.
[06:06] <pleia2> task ls, I love it :)
[06:06] <nhaines> haha, yup!
[20:10]  * pleia2 upgraded linode to install task
[20:10] <pleia2> (ok, not the only reason! but it was the tipping point)
[20:12] <pleia2> elizabeth@coruscant:~$ task 3 done
[20:12] <pleia2> Completed 3 'upgrade linode to squeeze'
[20:12] <pleia2> Marked 1 task as done
[20:12] <pleia2> \o/
[20:22] <nhaines> \o/
[20:27] <jamalta> ssh root@69.164.194.97
[20:27] <pleia2> is that a challenge?
[20:27] <jamalta> oops, screwed up my term.
[20:27] <pleia2> :P
[20:27] <pleia2> hehe
[20:28] <jamalta> it wasn't :(
[20:28] <pleia2> hooray for linodes
[20:28] <jamalta> hehe
[20:29] <pleia2> I follow far too many people on twitter who care about apple :\
[20:30] <crashsystems> likewise
[20:30] <seidos> i don't \o/
[20:31]  * seidos tumbles around \o/ /o\ \o/ /o\
[20:34] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[20:34] <crashsystems> I may just turn off my internets during the meeting/conference/keynote/whatever
[20:34] <pleia2> hehe
[20:35] <crashsystems> everyone is gonna be like "OMG, this device that was once only in black now comes in white. Revolutionary!"
[20:35] <seidos> why does building revolutionary devices have to be so hard :(
[20:46] <jamalta> i just ignore it and watch E3 instead :)
[20:54] <crashsystems> LOL --> https://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb11-13.html
[20:56] <sn9> why is that funny?
[20:57] <crashsystems> because I've got a twisted sense of humor.
[21:11] <iheartubuntu> has anyone had experience with a DVD drive no longer responding in ubuntu? this is my first time :|
[21:12] <iheartubuntu> there is power to it :) i can open and close the drive
[21:12] <iheartubuntu> typing eject in a terminal also works
[21:16] <iheartubuntu> also, when i type "sudo lshw -C disk" it lists the drive no problem
[21:24] <iheartubuntu> Does anyone know what the new Pirates of Caribbean movie is rated?
[21:25] <seidos> iheartubuntu: pg-13?
[21:25] <iheartubuntu> No, its rated AAAARRRRRGGGGHHH
[21:26] <iheartubuntu> What a pirates favorite hobby?
[21:26] <iheartubuntu> GGAAAAARRRRRRdening
[21:26] <iheartubuntu> we need some linux jokes
[21:26] <seidos> i can't wait for the movie "pirates vs ninjas" to come out
[21:26] <seidos> or maybe "pirates and ninjas"
[21:27] <sn9> maybe "pirates über ninjas"
[21:28] <iheartubuntu> why did the pirate buy an eye patch?
[21:28] <iheartubuntu> he didnt have enough money for an ipad
[21:28] <seidos> uber pirate ninjas?  i've gone to far.  i must walk the sepuku plank
[21:28] <sn9> rofl
[21:29] <seidos> iheartubuntu: or he didn't have enough skills to run iLinux
[21:29] <iheartubuntu> do you know what kind of grades pirates get in school?
[21:29] <iheartubuntu> high seas
[21:31] <iheartubuntu> does anyone know why pirating is so addictive?
[21:31] <seidos> not a clue
[21:31] <iheartubuntu> well, once you lose your first hand, you get hooked!
[21:36] <seidos> okay, let me try.  these are open source jokes, so feel free to improve them.
[21:37] <seidos> what did Bush say to Kerry?
[21:37] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: what's a pirate's favorite crime?
[21:38] <iheartubuntu> AAAAAARRRRR you asking me?
[21:38] <iheartubuntu> I have no idea!
[21:38] <nhaines> Arson!
[21:38] <nhaines> What's a pirate's favorite restaurant?
[21:38]  * iheartubuntu thinking of pirate words
[21:38] <iheartubuntu> no idea
[21:39] <seidos> Long John Silvers
[21:39] <nhaines> seidos: that's the one!  (Not Arby's)
[21:40] <nhaines> akk: what's a pirate's favorite type of sock?
[21:40] <iheartubuntu> leggings
[21:40] <nhaines> Arrr-gyle.
[21:41] <iheartubuntu> haha
[21:45] <akk> haha
[21:45]  * akk was out shopping for pirate parts ... for the Arrrr-duino
[21:47] <akk> At codechix yesterday we were talking about possible local arduino classes, and wondering how cheap you can get one -- turns out you can build one for about $8.
[21:48] <iheartubuntu> what did the pirate say when his wooden leg got stuck in the freezer?
[21:48] <akk> shiver me timbers!
[21:49] <iheartubuntu> yup :)
[21:49] <akk> What does that mean, anyway? When it doesn't involve a freezer.
[21:50] <seidos> probably the sail masts shaking?
[21:50] <akk> makes sense! I bet you're right
[21:50] <pleia2> akk: oh, so codechix does have meetings! I can't figure out their website :\
[21:51] <seidos> i guess when we say we are talking about our dwelling
[21:51] <seidos> *it
[21:51] <akk> pleia2: We do! Three different types. It's very complicated and that groupspaces website is impossible to figure out.
[21:52] <akk> Hack meets (which is what yesterday was), social gatherings and occasional meetings to listen to a speaker.
[21:52] <nhaines> web 2.0! \o/
[21:52] <pleia2> well there is the pbworks site, then the groupspaces site, and I don't see actual meeting dates of venues listed anywhere
[21:52] <pleia2> cool
[21:52] <pleia2> s/of/or
[21:52] <akk> There are meeting dates on groupspaces if you join the group, but even if you join it's hard to find them.
[21:53] <pleia2> that's not optimal
[21:53] <akk> @codechix on twitter might be a better way of finding out, but that's not optimal either.
[21:53] <pleia2> I don't want to join if they're all very far away and I can't attend anyway
[21:53] <akk> yeah, I know. I don't like the new site.
[21:53] <akk> Used to be on meetup but they started charging too much, or something.
[21:53] <pleia2> ah
[21:53] <akk> (I don't like meetup either but it's easier than groupspaces)
[21:53] <pleia2> yeah
[21:54] <pleia2> twitter is actually more useful, thanks :)
[21:54] <akk> Rupa is into this modern social networking thing and doesn't just want to make it a simple mailing list or whatever.
[21:55] <pleia2> the bay area geek girl dinners are similarly scheduled badly
[21:55] <akk> yep, they're just as hard to figure out
[21:55] <pleia2> they post on facebook and twitter, and by the time I see it it's always sold out
[21:55] <pleia2> email would be nice
[21:55] <akk> and the pystar python workshop a month or two ago -- I signed up to help with that three different places and still never got notified that it was actually happening
[21:55] <pleia2> the internet is hard :)
[21:55] <akk> and the only reason I know it happened is that I follow someone who tweeted "I'm at pystar right now, whee!"
[21:55] <pleia2> heh
[21:56] <akk> which made me very grumpy since I'd tried quite hard to be involved with it, including exchanging personal email with the organizer
[21:56] <pleia2> yeah
[21:56] <akk> Really, how hard is it to set up a yahoo/google groups mailing list for people who want to make sure they get announcements?
[21:57] <pleia2> I guess kids these days don't use email
[21:57] <akk> yeah
[21:59] <seidos> i <3 email
[22:04] <seidos> wb iheartubuntu
[22:05] <iheartubuntu> power went out
[22:05] <iheartubuntu> AAAAARRRRR