| sakhi | morning | 06:58 |
|---|---|---|
| superfly | heya sakhi | 07:01 |
| sakhi | superfly: how is it going? | 07:54 |
| sakhi | Maaz: forecast Cape Town | 07:54 |
| Maaz | sakhi: Sunday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 16° C., Sunday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 9° C., Monday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 14° C., Monday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 10° C., Tuesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 17° C., Tuesday Night: Mostly Cloudy. Low: 15° C., Wednesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 17° C., Wednesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 11° C., Thursday: Partly Cloudy. High: 18° C., Thursday Night: Partly Cloudy. Lo | 07:54 |
| kbmonkey | morning ubuntu-za | 07:57 |
| superfly | hey sakhi, cold, but OK | 07:57 |
| kbmonkey | we need a geeky joke to start this week | 07:58 |
| kbmonkey | "File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)" :D | 08:01 |
| Owkkuri | The great thing about TCP jokes is that you always get them. | 08:29 |
| cocooncrash | the punchline sometimes arrives first. The problem with UDP jokes is that | 08:30 |
| * kbmonkey keels over! | 08:31 | |
| Kilos | morning superfly and friends of ubuntu | 08:31 |
| Kilos | lo kbmonkey | 08:31 |
| Kilos | wassup | 08:31 |
| kbmonkey | awe wow those are so funny! | 08:34 |
| * kbmonkey wi-fives Owkkuri and cocooncrash | 08:35 | |
| Owkkuri | P | 08:35 |
| cocooncrash | Maaz: http://twitter.com/#!/mgorven/status/77382856397168641 | 08:36 |
| Maaz | cocooncrash: afernandez: "FTP Joke Incoming - Please see my other Twitter account for the Actual Joke #protolol" | 08:36 |
| kbmonkey | +1 for #protolol hashtag | 08:56 |
| Squirm | hello | 09:36 |
| Squirm | anyone here know about samba and it's file permissions | 09:37 |
| kbmonkey | hi squirm | 09:47 |
| kbmonkey | what about the permissions? | 09:48 |
| kbmonkey | the samba docs and tuts are huge I only touched on some of them | 09:55 |
| queery | maaz, coffee on | 10:02 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 10:02 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for queery! | 10:06 |
| Squirm | kbmonkey: well, I want an excel file to have read/write permissions for all users. But as soon as a user edits the file, it changes the file permissions | 10:07 |
| queery | maaz, ty | 10:08 |
| Maaz | Enjoy queery | 10:08 |
| kbmonkey | hello queery | 10:09 |
| queery | hi kbmonkey | 10:09 |
| kbmonkey | excel, squirm? well excel locks the files you open so only one preson can edit it at a time. | 10:10 |
| kbmonkey | that's not a samba issue, that is Excel being neurotic | 10:10 |
| Squirm | no, no | 10:10 |
| Squirm | look | 10:10 |
| Squirm | -rwxrwxrwx 1 shan users 41472 Jun 1 10:23 Grade 1 - Shan.xls | 10:11 |
| Squirm | thats what it should like | 10:11 |
| Squirm | but | 10:11 |
| Squirm | -rwxr--r-- 1 joanine users 53760 Jun 6 10:20 Grade 3 - Kirsten.xls | 10:11 |
| Squirm | thats what it looks like after joanine edits it | 10:11 |
| kbmonkey | ah | 10:11 |
| kbmonkey | okay I see | 10:12 |
| superfly | Squirm: check the umask of files in the config, I think you can set it there somewhere | 10:12 |
| Squirm | and in smb.conf, I have these | 10:12 |
| Squirm | create mask = ugo=rwx | 10:12 |
| Squirm | directory mask = ugo=rwx | 10:12 |
| Squirm | force group = users | 10:12 |
| Squirm | force directory mode = ugo=rwx | 10:12 |
| Squirm | force create mode = ugo=rwx | 10:12 |
| * superfly hasn't used samba in years | 10:12 | |
| Squirm | and it used to be 7777 | 10:13 |
| kbmonkey | yes you need to set the default permission | 10:13 |
| superfly | Squirm: isn't there a write mask as well? | 10:13 |
| kbmonkey | usually files keep their permissions. I bet excel is recreating the file which recreates the default ro permission | 10:13 |
| Squirm | thats why I put create mode | 10:14 |
| Squirm | and create mask | 10:14 |
| kbmonkey | try write mask as superfly said | 10:14 |
| kbmonkey | long shot but try use the 'mask = 0777' format instead of ugo=rwx | 10:19 |
| Squirm | ok | 10:21 |
| Squirm | lets see | 10:21 |
| Squirm | ok | 10:26 |
| Squirm | new problem | 10:26 |
| Squirm | the user can't write to the file, if they don't have ownership | 10:27 |
| Squirm | yet the rw permissions are 0777 | 10:27 |
| Squirm | yet the user Joanine can | 10:27 |
| Squirm | bleh | 10:27 |
| kbmonkey | I had the same problem on my HTPC where copying files over the network changed ownership :/ | 10:27 |
| Squirm | it changes ownership, but all users are on users | 10:28 |
| Squirm | in users* | 10:28 |
| kbmonkey | I think samba has it's own user (default nobody) | 10:28 |
| Squirm | I made it force group users | 10:29 |
| Squirm | as well | 10:29 |
| kbmonkey | if you restart the smbd service make sure the clients (your pc's) remount the share too | 10:29 |
| superfly | Squirm: if you force user, doesn't that negate the user themselves? | 10:29 |
| kbmonkey | to reload the permissions | 10:29 |
| kbmonkey | so did create mask = 0777 let it write the file at least? | 10:31 |
| Squirm | no | 10:32 |
| Squirm | it won't let me write to the file, when the owner is joanine | 10:32 |
| Squirm | yet the permission are 0777 | 10:32 |
| Squirm | excel just throws, "Access Denied. Contact Administrator" | 10:33 |
| Squirm | so I chown trish:users | 10:33 |
| Squirm | aand it works | 10:33 |
| kbmonkey | is one person editing over the network and another on the pc itself? | 10:34 |
| superfly | kbmonkey: they can't, they're both Windows users ;-) | 10:34 |
| kbmonkey | Im not a samba fundi myself ;) | 10:35 |
| Squirm | its stored on a debian server | 10:36 |
| kbmonkey | it sounds like each user uses a different samba account | 10:36 |
| Squirm | im logged into the server via ssh | 10:36 |
| Squirm | and each user has a samba account | 10:36 |
| Squirm | I'm at a school, all the teachers have a username and password to map the network drive, where they have to edit these files | 10:37 |
| kbmonkey | have a look here squirm http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-set-permissions-to-samba-shares.html | 10:38 |
| kbmonkey | also shows there adding valid users to a share, that may help | 10:38 |
| Squirm | I'm sure I set samba to use linux directory permissions | 10:39 |
| kbmonkey | linux permissions take precedence over samba permissions, that seems to be conflicting | 10:39 |
| Squirm | I'm really confused | 10:45 |
| kbmonkey | samba does that to me too squirm :/ | 10:56 |
| kbmonkey | we need samba experts, have you tried their forums and mailing list? | 10:57 |
| Squirm | but why does it not work, yet all the users are in the group users | 11:05 |
| Squirm | and the file permission is 0777 | 11:05 |
| Squirm | DIE | 11:05 |
| kbmonkey | sorry Squirm wish I knew the answer for you! | 11:12 |
| kbmonkey | googling gives many answers but all variations of the problem and the rest say what you have tried | 11:12 |
| Squirm | kbmonkey: I think I sorted it out | 11:16 |
| Squirm | they were in the directory attendance, which ended in the t dir permission. so maybe they could only edit it because they had ownership | 11:17 |
| Squirm | otherwise because only joanine could change the permissions, it wouldnt work | 11:17 |
| kbmonkey | :) | 11:19 |
| Squirm | so I think | 11:20 |
| Squirm | its done | 11:20 |
| * Squirm edits the file with joanine | 11:20 | |
| kbmonkey | Im too clear on what you mean by 'directory attendance'? | 11:24 |
| Squirm2 | kbmonkey: the directory, 'attendance' | 13:08 |
| Squirm2 | but it seems the problem has now been sorted | 13:08 |
| kbmonkey | oh that's good Squirm! | 13:17 |
| Kilos | Paddy's in jail. The Guard looks in his cell and see's him hanging by his feet. | 16:59 |
| Kilos | "What are you doing?" he asks. | 16:59 |
| Kilos | "Hanging myself," Paddy replies. | 16:59 |
| Kilos | "It should be round your neck," says the guard. | 16:59 |
| Kilos | "I tried that," says Paddy, "but I couldn't breathe." | 16:59 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 17:00 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 17:00 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 17:04 |
| Kilos | Maaz, gracias amigo | 17:04 |
| Maaz | ¡de nada compadre | 17:04 |
| Kilos | any grub experts around? | 17:38 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s20AOgDE7J | 17:38 |
| Kilos | i explained my prob and what i have done at the pastebin | 17:42 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: ping | 17:49 |
| superfly | Kilos: you only need 1 swap partition between multiple installations | 17:49 |
| superfly | why do you have 4? | 17:50 |
| Kilos | superfly, the installations made them on their own | 17:50 |
| Kilos | i didnt make my own partitions | 17:50 |
| Kilos | also now there is about 50g of the drive split into the extra installations | 17:51 |
| Kilos | also i bangerig to delete the swaps and make one just yet | 17:52 |
| Kilos | if i can remove the last 2 mavericks alongside then i will worry about swap | 17:52 |
| Kilos | and also is it safe to make the new swap with gparted | 17:57 |
| Kilos | hehe gparted shows what a mess the drive is in even though its working lekker | 18:01 |
| Kilos | dunno where to send a screenshot | 18:01 |
| queery | looking for a job in sciences and stumbled on to this: http://www.pnet.co.za/index.php?s=advert_view&g=3002&x=2187336&i=7007&pop=1 | 18:24 |
| kbmonkey_ | I really want a tux logo on my netbook win key | 19:58 |
| Kilos | night all sleep tight and warm | 21:50 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!