[01:36] <beerlogger> ScottK: according to valorie the time is approaching late, what to do?
[01:36] <beerlogger> I am a bit scared here
[01:40] <micahg> kubotu: order a beer for beerlogger 
[01:40]  * kubotu slides a beer down the bar to beerlogger
[02:39] <ScottK> beerlogger: I think it's not late, but if you're too young and weak to stay up until I say it's late, by all means listen to valorie.
[02:51] <beerlogger> ScottK: I gave up
[02:51] <beerlogger> doing university homework now
[02:51] <beerlogger> ewww
[02:51] <ScottK> Meh.
[02:52] <ScottK> Well, I imagine if you were maintainer of an actual solution instead of a mere add-on you'd have managed.
[02:53] <beerlogger> oh
[02:53] <beerlogger> you did not see the slides
[02:53] <beerlogger> right
[02:53] <beerlogger> sec
[02:54] <beerlogger> ScottK: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/misc/Randa2011/Randa2011-Multimedia.pdf
[02:54] <beerlogger> slide 3
[02:56] <ScottK> Yes, but the Uber platform people have you down as an add-on and as theirs goes to 11, they win.
[03:03] <beerlogger> oh
[03:03] <beerlogger> I did not look at the graphics yet
[03:04] <ScottK> http://files.kde.org/ervin/platform11/kde-frameworks-dependencies-plan.pdf
[03:05] <beerlogger> right
[03:05] <beerlogger> but tier1
[03:05] <beerlogger> so we can use tr() rather than i18n
[03:05] <beerlogger> like we dont do that already :P
[03:05] <beerlogger> see
[03:06] <beerlogger> unlike Kubuntu, my other project actually is a tier1 component
[03:12] <ScottK> Ah, so your translations can suck in Ubuntu too.
[03:14] <ScottK> Someone really ought to do that kdepim merge.
[03:14] <ScottK> pim 4.6.0 is apparently released.
[03:15] <beerlogger> yes
[03:15] <beerlogger> I haz spied in on stuff earlier about that :P
[03:19] <ScottK> Right, then please drum up a minion to deal with the merge.
[10:13] <mfraz74> In KDE 4.6.3 on Kubuntu 11.04 find file is no longer in the tools menu of Konqueror. Is this a packaging decision of Kubuntu or from KDE?
[10:24] <mfraz74> KFiles' help says "You can load this utility in Dolphin and Konqueror (in file manager mode) by selecting Tools → Find File (Ctrl+F) from the menu.", but you can't
[10:57] <debfx> mfraz74: afaik it has been removed because dolphin has an integrated file search
[10:58] <debfx> and both share parts of the Tools menu
[11:30] <QuintasanDroid> damned Freescale
[11:41] <jussi> QuintasanDroid: still no joy? 
[11:48] <QuintasanDroid> jussi: I've been calling FedEx all they, they're not answering
[11:49] <QuintasanDroid> Freescale sent me an email thanking for my activity at their page asking me quesitions about type of work I am involved in
[11:52] <QuintasanDroid> jussi: pacakge will be sent back if they dont take any action this week -_-
[11:52] <jussi> QuintasanDroid: what number are you calling? 
[11:52] <mfraz74> debfx: what if i want to search a removable drive for something?
[11:53] <QuintasanDroid> jussi: I was calling FedEx Poland
[11:53] <debfx> mfraz74: you can still start kfind
[11:54] <QuintasanDroid> jussi: 225007615
[11:54] <QuintasanDroid> all they
[11:54] <QuintasanDroid> lol
[11:54]  * QuintasanDroid meant all day
[11:54] <mfraz74> but the only way of launching kfind is by using krunner?
[11:54] <debfx> mfraz74: ideally that menu entry would be added back to konqueror but it seems mostly unmaintained
[11:54] <jussi> QuintasanDroid: PM
[11:56] <mfraz74> debfx: is there any way of adding that back into the menu by hand?
[11:58] <debfx> mfraz74: you could add "MimeType=inode/directory;" to /usr/share/applications/kde4/kfind.desktop
[11:58] <debfx> then it should appear in file -> open with
[12:01] <mfraz74> debfx: That works thanks
[12:03] <mfraz74> Next question: Why can't Ark open .deb files without having to tell it what type they are?
[12:06] <ScottK> mfraz74: I think that's an upstream regression.  I've seen it too, but have not had time to investigate.
[12:07] <mfraz74> Oh and device notifier thinks that audio CDs are just CD-ROMs?
[12:46] <ScottK> debfx: Are you going to be able to look at the kdeplasma-addons merge today?  I think we'd get kubuntu-full installable if that was done.
[12:47] <ScottK> Desktop i386 was NOT oversized today.
[12:47] <ScottK> Good job on the seed changes.
[12:47] <debfx> ScottK: I've already uploaded plasma-addons. working on the armel build failures now.
[12:47] <ScottK> Ah.  Great.
[12:48] <ScottK> I get a daily status report on images and I was basing off of that.
[12:49] <debfx> do we want libreoffice-help-en-us? It's 5MB and we didn't have it in natty
[12:49] <ScottK> I'm thinking no.
[12:50] <ScottK> Seems reasonable for the dvd though.
[12:51] <debfx> yeah, I'd rather have another language pack on the cd
[14:05] <ScottK> transitlogger: Since you are the multimedia king, you might have a look at my patch in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274666 and see about making an upstream suitable version for 4.7.  The old API has been deprecated for some time it seems.
[14:41] <PiotrN> Hello, I see the topis says Packaging 4.6.4 , how about kdepim 4.6 ? :) 
[14:42] <PiotrN> topic*
[14:43] <ScottK> Soon.
[14:43] <ScottK> First we need to update our kdepim packages from Debian.
[14:44] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Can you merge kdepim?
[14:51] <ScottK> debfx: Looks like we want to merge kde4libs again.  Up for it?
[14:52] <ScottK> I think except for kdepim all of our main KDE merges are done.
[15:16] <didrocks> debfx: ScottK: hey, do you know if there is any black magic in the Qt build system for CXXFLAGS? (I tried adding export CXXFLAGS := -fno-omit-frame-pointer to debian/rules, but I don't see the option to be used: https://launchpad.net/~didrocks/+archive/ppa/+build/2552684)
[15:17] <ScottK> transitlogger: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdeartwork/kscreensaver/kdesavers/slideshow.cpp?view=log looks like a good choice for kubuntu-lowfat.
[15:17] <ScottK> didrocks: There is.
[15:17]  * ScottK tries to remember.
[15:18] <didrocks> ah! :-)
[15:20]  * ScottK doesn't remember.
[15:20] <ScottK> fabo: Could you give didrocks a hand with this?
[15:21] <didrocks> ScottK: that's a bad sign or a sign it's very magic :-)
[15:21] <ScottK> It's a bad sign for me.
[15:29] <fabo> didrocks: I see -fno-omit-frame-pointer in your build log
[15:30] <didrocks> fabo: yeah, I can see some as well now. Not sure why at the start of the build, there is some g++ build, without this flag
[15:30] <fabo> once upon a time, Qt configure didn't support *FLAGS. only through QMake
[15:31] <fabo> there's a trick in configure to convert the env var into qmake variable
[15:32] <shadeslayer> ScottK: can do
[15:32] <shadeslayer> in fact that was next on my list for tonight
[15:32] <fabo> didrocks: line 638, you have the trick
[15:32] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Thanks.
[15:34] <shadeslayer> debfx: oh btw about python bindings in kdeedu ( specifically marble ) i talked to upstream and they suggested a workaround, should i add it? ( they said they will fix it for the 4.7 release )
[15:34] <didrocks> fabo: hum, line 638 of which file? not sure to follow (not debian/rules nor the projects.pro)
[15:34] <shadeslayer> and i mean a proper fix, not the workaround
[15:35] <fabo> didrocks: line 638 of configure
[15:36] <didrocks> fabo: ah, the CFG_QCONFIG… weird that it's still working for some part getting the flag but not everywhere
[15:36] <didrocks> fabo: thanks, will google that see possible values
[15:37] <fabo> didrocks: that's the relevant part of configure -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/620933/
[15:39] <didrocks> fabo: ok, so it seems it subsitutes them without additional magic. So QMAKE_CXXFLAGS is set just by defining it.
[15:42] <fabo> well, without additional magic is incorrect. there's additional magic done by configure script to translate your env var to a qmake variable.
[15:44] <didrocks> fabo: right, I mean, from the packager point of view, there is no magic to be aware of (don't have to know the qmake build system), thanks for the hint in configure :-)
[15:46] <fabo> didrocks: you're welcome :)
[17:15] <debfx> shadeslayer: what is broken in the python bindings?
[17:15] <shadeslayer> debfx: don't build
[17:17] <debfx> does anything use the bindings? if not we could just wait until 4.7 lands in oneiric
[17:18] <shadeslayer> debfx: they were disabled in our packages as well ... ( the cmake flag was commented out ) so i guess its better to wait
[17:31] <shadeslayer> ScottK: oh btw, kdepim will take some time
[17:31] <shadeslayer> i hope thats not a problem
[18:15] <maco> whatever happened to roman?
[18:15] <maco> cjwatson says he's the one who did the keyboard stuff in ubiquity
[18:18] <shadeslayer> our notifications guy! :D
[18:24] <shadeslayer> jussi: btw you can compile tomahawk via neon quite easily
[18:24] <jussi> shadeslayer: :)
[18:24] <jussi> shadeslayer: and blink? :D
[18:24] <shadeslayer> like i'm missing only 1 or 2 deps
[18:24] <shadeslayer> jussi: haven't checked that out yet :P ... give me a couple of days, only one exam left
[18:25] <jussi> :)
[18:26] <shadeslayer> jussi: have a kookie till then :P
[18:26] <jussi> hhehe
[18:26] <shadeslayer> kubotu: order kookies for jussi
[18:26]  * kubotu slides kookies down the bar to jussi
[18:27] <jussi> kubotu: order blink for jussi
[18:27]  * kubotu slides blink down the bar to jussi
[18:28] <jussi> dammit kubotu, not the windows version! :P
[18:50] <yofel> Ninjas: 4.6.4 is scheduled to be released today and our packages aren't done. please don't foret about them.
[18:51] <yofel> I'll do some once i get home.
[19:05] <bambee> evening
[19:06] <shadeslayer> jussi: w00t http://i.imgur.com/QlQoJ.png
[23:56] <EagleScreen> hello
[23:56] <EagleScreen> this texts are not translated http://wstaw.org/m/2011/06/08/instantanea1.png
[23:56] <EagleScreen> in which package do you think they are