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dholbachgood morning07:50
dpmgood morning everyone!07:53
duanedesigno/07:54
dpmhey duanedesign :)07:58
nigelbhey dholbach, ara, dpm :)08:09
dholbachhi nigelb, dpm, duanedesign08:09
nigelbduanedesign: I see you less often lately. Does that mean you get better sleep? :)08:09
dpmmorning dholbach, morning nigelb08:11
duanedesignnigelb: been busy trying to get a new job08:21
nigelbduanedesign: ah!08:21
* nigelb waves to Rhonda :)08:22
Rhondapopey, duanedesign: Can you suggest a screencast tool for doing video presentations of tools? dholbach sent me here. ;)08:22
duanedesignhello Rhonda08:22
RhondaI looked at istanbul and recordmydesktop so far, while the latter is the one that works for me to some degree when I set framerate to 2 FPS.08:22
duanedesignI have a script that I use. I had problems with recordmydeshtop08:23
duanedesignlet me get the link08:23
RhondaI want to do some short screencasts about games presentations, to get more people interested in that area and potential new contributors for our pkg games team. ;)08:23
duanedesignalso you might try kazam08:24
RhondaIs that packaged?08:24
duanedesignhttp://okiebuntu.homelinux.com/blog/?p=17508:25
duanedesignthat is the sscriipt I use a lot ^^08:25
duanedesignhere is kazam https://launchpad.net/kazam08:26
RhondaHmm, looking into it, thanks for the links.08:27
RhondaHmm, kazam doesn't seem very active anymore.08:33
Rhondaduanedesign: Hmm, that script sounds interesting, will have to play with it to make it work with alsa though. :)08:56
kim0morning everyone08:57
dpmmorning kim008:59
kim0dpm: hey :)09:01
Rhondaduanedesign: One question, would that script also record sound events produced by the desktop apps, or only that comes in through line-in?09:44
duanedesignRhonda: it should.... Though i have only used it to record my voice while doing screencasts09:48
RhondaRecording games would make it more than just useful to have the music there, too ;)09:50
popeyi have recorded audio from the computer, but by having a nice big mic10:02
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popeyRhonda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsWwCqZfpAI was a test I recorded at 1080p of me playing a game. i was speaking a bit quietly, but the game sound comes out well10:03
Rhondapulseaudio, right? I don't want to dig into switching to that  %-/10:17
Rhondapopey: Does though sound like it's coming in through your internal microphone from your speakers instead of directly from what is sent through the sound system?10:18
popeyRhonda: yes, its a default install of Ubuntu so pulse is used. and yes, it's coming from the speakers10:48
popeyhowever I understand what you want is possible with jack10:48
popeyRhonda: its not an internal microphone, it's a Blue Snowball.10:51
Rhondablue snowball? bilberry flavoured?10:51
dpmhey popey, I'm not sure how often messages to the loco-council lists are moderated, so I'm pinging just in case - may I ask you to approve the message I just sent to it?11:19
popeydpm: done11:19
dpmexcellent, thanks popey :)11:23
popeyRhonda: http://twitpic.com/2rjxal11:23
czajkowskimorning11:25
czajkowskihmm that's the 2nd time recently that loco has been highlighted I think11:25
Rhondapopey: shiny!11:31
popeyczajkowski: its a dude, not the entire loco11:37
czajkowskiok11:43
* czajkowski hugs mhall119 12:05
nigelbpopey: wow, is that the mic you use for recording UUPC podcasts?12:26
popeyno12:27
popeywe use SM58's for UUPC12:27
mhall119czajkowski: what'd I do?12:57
popeyhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2011-June/245887.html13:09
popey_great_13:09
popeyGetting pretty sick of the abuse I'm singularly getting from people on that list.13:12
Pendulumwtf???13:14
* Pendulum hugs popey 13:14
czajkowskiwow what a rude person13:15
czajkowskiand rude is me being extremely polite given the channel I am in13:15
* czajkowski hugs popey 13:15
czajkowskiyou do not deserve that kinda abuse from anyone13:15
paultagyeah that's crap13:15
paultagyou rock popey13:16
paultagwhoh, can't believe he droped some of the stuff he did13:16
paultagthat's so far out of line13:16
paultagpopey: if you put him on moderation why did you let that through?13:18
paultagI know transparency and openness is important, but that's clear-cut out of line off topic13:18
greg-gpopey: I don't know why you even engage :/13:18
paultaggreg-g: truth13:19
Rhondapardon my sarcasm, but … popey, you clearly show nazi opression here.  *ducks*13:19
paultagRhonda: ha!13:20
paultagjust like sounder. How dare popey do that. Canonical is oppressing us13:20
Pendulumyou forgot the brainwashing13:21
paultagPendulum++;13:21
Pendulumbut I suppose that's because you are brainwashed so aren't aware it happened13:21
paultag:)13:21
paultagsabdfl is actually just popey's alias to make it look like someone else has "control"13:22
Pendulumand they hire an actor for UDS?13:24
vish:D13:24
paultagpopey: duh13:24
paultagerm, Pendulum*13:25
paultagOK, BBL. Flying to California for a job interview. The unnamed company "Bookface" has got me some pretty nice Jet Blue tickets out. Sitting in the Terminal now13:26
czajkowskipopey: best of luck13:27
czajkowskipaultag: best of luck13:27
czajkowskistupid damn tab completion13:27
paultagczajkowski: thanks!13:27
Pendulumpaultag: good luck!13:27
paultagthanks, Pendulum!13:28
Pendulumpaultag: once you're back east we should get together. maybe i'll even brave the cape ;-)13:28
paultagPendulum: For sure. I had to bail on doctormo when we had the Ubuntu Hour because of traffic, so we should get something together13:29
paultagcape → bos is a nasty drive13:30
paultagOK, I'm going to head offline. I love you all dearly13:30
Pendulumpaultag: well I'm in northern CT so it's probably actually easier for us to meet up13:31
paultagPendulum: humm, yeah. We'll chat :)13:31
Pendulum(this is why I don't make boston ubuntu hours)13:31
paultagPendulum: good point. We'll work out the middle point and hook something up13:31
Pendulum:D13:31
paultag:)13:31
* paultag waves13:31
jcastrodholbach: around?14:35
dholbachjcastro, yes14:35
jcastromay I trouble you with a graph thing14:35
jcastroI need one more thing for this cycle and then I am done!14:35
dholbachwhat is it? nux/compiz?14:35
jcastro"backlog" tag14:36
dholbachwhat about it?14:36
jcastroright now you have "bitesize bugs"14:36
dholbachright14:36
jcastroI need another one for "backlog"14:36
jcastroI don't need compiz perse, but it wouldn't hurt either14:36
jcastroup to you14:36
dholbachso that's 1) bitesize and 2) backlog and 3) general (regardless of tags) for unity+compiz+nux14:37
dholbachor separate graphs for each of the three?14:37
jcastroseperate graphs of the three14:37
jcastrobut they're not that important14:37
dholbachso 9 graphs total14:38
dholbachright?14:38
jcastrono14:38
dholbachunity.bitesize, unity.backlog, unity.general14:38
jcastroI only care about bitesize and backlog for unity14:38
dholbachok, so 6 in total14:39
jcastro514:39
jcastrothe 2 you have now14:39
* dholbach cries14:39
jcastrook let me break it down14:39
jcastrothe 2 you have now14:40
jcastro+ unity.backlog14:40
jcastro+compiz.everything14:40
jcastro+nux.everything14:40
dholbachok14:40
dholbachI'll note that down14:40
dholbachthanks14:40
jcastro"everything" being defined as what the top graph you have now is14:40
dholbachyep, ok, gotcha14:40
* dholbach hugs jcastro14:40
* jcastro hugs back14:40
jcastroalso14:40
jcastromay I have a pony?14:40
jcastro(hahah you thought I was going to ask for something else)14:40
dholbachI'm still waiting for the pink cadillac you promised me at UDS14:41
dholbachok, it was at the end of a long night, but still14:41
dholbachpromise is promise14:41
jcastrowas it pink?14:41
dholbachthat's what you said14:41
jcastrodholbach: oh, one more thing14:45
jcastro(crap sorry)14:45
jcastrocan you reset the graphs?14:45
jcastroactually14:45
jcastrowait14:45
jcastrohmmm, I wonder what jono will want14:45
jcastronever mind, leave them14:45
dholbachresetting them is very very easy :)14:45
jcastroyeah I am wondering if I should14:46
dholbachlet me know when you two made up your minds14:46
jcastroor maybe wait another cycle, I'll just ask bacon14:46
dholbach:)14:46
jcastroheya kim014:50
jcastrohttp://www.youtube.com/user/ubuntudevelopers#p/u14:50
jcastroa bunch of good server stuff got uploaded over the past few days14:51
jcastro(puppet, mcollective, etc.)14:51
jcastroif you wanna tweet stuff14:51
dholbachok, seems like my internet at home is fixed again, so I'll work the rest from home today14:54
cjohnstonblah15:18
kim0jcastro: cool!15:18
kim0checking em out15:19
* jcastro wishes he had time to check out mcollective15:20
kim0mostly the same for me :)15:21
kim0in the mean time, enjoying Ensemble15:21
dholbachok, internet is NOT fixed yet - grmbl15:52
dholbach30h and counting15:52
* popey hugs dholbach 15:52
* dholbach hugs popey back15:52
dholbachbut on the upside: I went to a café nearby and they have chocolate cake15:53
* dpm hugs dholbach15:53
* dholbach hugs dpm back too15:53
dpmI hope my internet does not start failing now. It's starting to rain pretty heavily, and that's also a sign for upcoming internet failures here15:54
czajkowski~~:(15:58
czajkowskiI really am never going to get the hang of this keyboard15:58
czajkowskisooner my new power supply comes the better15:58
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nigelbjcastro: would you like to fix the bug you raised in priority? :P16:38
jcastroheh16:38
nigelbIts really easy, so I'm holding out for a new contributor.  Blogging soonish.16:38
jcastrojono: do we have UDS dates yet?17:03
jonojcastro, sure17:03
jonojcastro, get the details from Marianna17:03
jonoI announced the dates at the wrap-up in Budapest17:03
dholbachalright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow17:06
jcastrojono: chow time for me, and then LAUNCH/BLOG time.17:10
jonojcastro, cheers17:10
nhandlernigelb: What is the bug?17:23
nigelbnhandler: pulling blueprints from launchpad and pushing it via the summit ical.17:24
nigelbnhandler: we're trying to get new contributors to summit, so I'm staying away from bitesize bugs and blogging about them instead :)17:25
nhandlernigelb: It is times like this that I miss LPs old feature to list yourself as a mentor for a bug. This is how I got started with patching packaging bugs (I found all the bugs persia was listed as a mentor for)17:27
nigelbnhandler: Yeah, we talked about that at UDS.17:27
nigelbnhandler: do you think its a good idea for me to leave a comment saying I'm willing to mentor for that bug?17:27
nhandlernigelb: Yeah. It also helps if you are in a position to say, "Here is a link to bitesize bugs for summit. If you find a bug you are willing to work on or want to learn to fix, you can contact person1, person2, or person3 depending on your timezone/other factors and they will help you fix it"17:28
nigelbnhandler: hrm, I'll be doing that too.  blog post up coming later today17:29
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jcastrohttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/unity-community-contributor-plans-for-11-10/19:05
jcastroOMG CAN YOU ALL GOOGLE +1 PLS.19:05
PiciThat doesn19:06
PiciThat doesn't really roll off the tounge all that well.19:07
jcastroMy grammer and spelling, impeccable they are.19:07
czajkowskiit reads the exact way jcastro would deliver it to you if he were speaking in front of you19:13
jcastroheh19:13
czajkowskijcastro: it's a good thing19:14
czajkowskiit's natural19:14
PiciI meant the google +1 thing, not jcastro's writing style.19:15
jcastroI am becoming a fan of the G+119:15
jcastroIn the vain hope that it will kill content farms19:15
czajkowskijcastro: had never heard of it till you mentioned it19:15
jcastro(hah)19:15
czajkowskijcastro: will that blog post go on your pblog to go on planet ubuntu ?19:17
czajkowski*blog19:17
jcastroczajkowski: it's on ubuntu-news already19:18
jcastroI guess planet just hasn't updated19:18
czajkowskiah ok19:18
jcastrohttp://ubuntu-news.org/2011/06/07/unity-community-contributor-plans-for-11-10/19:18
jcastroposted there first19:18
czajkowskikinda like to see this stuff on planet :)19:18
jcastroand the OMG story links back to this19:18
czajkowskicool19:18
jonojcastro, btw, the bugs outlined in your blog...they are not the ones currently assigned to DX right?19:18
jcastroI am Amber-safe(tm)19:18
jonoI know DX picked 20 or so bugs19:18
jcastrojono: they are not19:18
jonojcastro, awesome19:19
jcastrowell, they didn't pick 20 as much as we unpicked 40, the other 20 are still in limbo, depending on what jason does when he gets through them19:19
jcastrohe's adding templates to them still19:19
jonojcastro, interesting, Jason said 20 were assigned19:20
jonoI am going to write up a post too19:20
jcastroassigned to whom?19:20
jcastrohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/~unity-community-hackers19:20
jcastro28 are assigned19:21
jonojcastro, assigned to DX leads19:22
jcastrooh19:22
jonoJason told me the DX team had assigned 20 of those bugs to them19:22
jcastrook so out of the original pile, I know "we" have 28, so they have 20.19:22
jcastroThat leaves 12-ish to resolve19:22
jcastrosounds about right19:22
jonoI want to ensure the community are not working on the same bugs so we don't duplicate effort19:22
jcastroit's a grind, he has to add a template to each bug, he'll likely sort it all today/tomorrow19:22
jonowhat is the link again to the list of 60 design bugs?19:22
jcastrothey won't community ones are explicitly assigned to ~unity-community-hackers19:23
jcastroand if DX takes them they assign it to themselves19:23
jonojcastro, ok, so we point all community members to the ~unity-community-hackers bug list19:23
jcastroyep19:23
jonook, makes sense19:24
jonocheers19:24
jcastroit's weird right now19:24
jcastrohe's still going through the bugs19:24
jcastrobut we have more than enough to start19:24
jcastrowe just haven't "retriaged" all 6019:24
jonoare all those bugs assigned to that team complete with details from Jason19:24
jcastronot yet, he's going to finish that up over the next few days19:25
jonook, cool19:25
jcastroeach bug should have a template by the end of the week19:25
* jono hungry19:25
jonobrb19:25
jcastrohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/69246219:25
ubot2Ubuntu bug 692462 in unity "unity confused with chromium web apps" [Wishlist,Confirmed]19:25
jcastrosome of them get brutal19:25
jonojcastro, where are we tracking work on the bugs in that team?19:25
jcastrowhich is why they aren't all done yet19:25
jonoas in, metrics19:26
jcastroI'm tracking the tag and the team, but I only told daniel about the graph updates today19:26
jcastrohttp://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/unity-stats/19:26
jcastrothere will be a "backlog bugs" graph19:26
jcastroright under the bitesize one19:27
jonook cool19:27
jonoI am seen to show progress using this new approach19:27
jcastroyeah19:27
jcastrowe were mulling resetting the chart.19:27
jcastrobut I think what I'd like to do is do 3 cycles with one set.19:27
jcastroso we can kind of compare19:27
jcastroand then reset at the end of the "major cycle"19:27
jonomakes sense19:28
jcastrothat way it's obvious right  up front if you're not trending like you did last cycle19:28
jonoso long as I a demonstrate to other parts of the company how we have generated more community interest and participation in those bugs, I am happy19:28
jonobrb lunch19:29
jonogood work jcastro :-)19:29
jcastroItalian Stallions ftw.19:30
jono:-)19:31
cjohnstonjono, jcastro work is being started this week to get the new style of burndown charts live!19:32
jcastro\o/19:32
jcastroI love them dude19:32
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jonocjohnston, nice!20:12
macojcastro: nice graph. any idea what happened to the other bug stat graphs?20:13
jcastrowhich ones?20:13
jcastrothere's a ton everywhere20:13
macohttp://people.canonical.com/~brian/graphs/20:14
macoits all blank now20:14
jcastrono clue20:14
jcastrohttp://qa.ubuntu.com/report-list/20:14
jcastroin there somewhere probably20:14
czajkowskihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/VictorPalau is up for membership this evening hopefully he'll have folks along to support him, it's a really cool project he;s working on20:19
JanCczajkowski: as you did a talk about FOSS in the UK government at FOSDEM, do you have any contacts in the European Parliament (MEPs or people who work there) who are or might be interested in FOSS ?21:08
czajkowskiEMEA atm21:09
czajkowskipoke me in an hr21:09
JanCokay  ;)21:09
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jonojcastro, yo22:01
AlanBellJanC: what are you after?22:03
pleia2popey: about for CC meeting?22:04
AlanBellmy guess is popey is travelling back from the podcast recording now22:05
pleia2yeah, I saw him pop in for a moment a litlte while earlier22:05
pleia2wasn't sure where he was travel-wise :)22:05
czajkowskihe's travelling22:06
JanCAlanBell / czajkowski : http://epfsug.eu/ is a (relatively new) FOSS user group in the European Parliament22:07
JanCand they are looking for more "patrons", MEP who endorse them (preferably people from different political parties)22:09
JanCand more members of course22:09
JanCmembers are people who work at the EP (MEPS, assistants, staff)22:10
JanCand supporters are also welcome (external people)22:11
czajkowskihmm not sure so tbh22:11
AlanBellJanC: I will pass that to some contacts of mine22:12
JanCcurrently most (political) people involved seem to be from Greens/EFA22:12
JanCso they really want people from other parties22:12
JanCwe (ubuntu-be) will also help them with some events in the future22:13
czajkowskigreen party doesnt exist any more thankfuly in ireland22:13
czajkowskimay they never get in power again >:(22:13
JanCeh22:13
JanCnot sure what they were like in Ireland  ;)22:14
czajkowskiwell kinda cause the colapse of the government22:14
AlanBellJanC: have you got a government yet?22:15
JanCthe MEP from the Belgian/Flemish greens is considered as the most competent Belgian MEP by most journalists over here22:15
JanChe & a British women were the only ones in the EP complaining & asking questions about the Windows 7 deal...22:16
JanCAlanBell: we have had a government all the time...22:16
JanCAlanBell: as long as there is no new government, the old one remains in power22:17
czajkowskiso odd22:19
JanCodd?22:19
JanCit's called "continuity"  ;)22:19
AlanBellwow, that has been going on for *ages*22:20
JanCof course the current government doesn't have a majority, so getting laws approved is somewhat more complicated22:20
JanCbut it's not like e.g. the Dutch government has a majority  ;)22:24
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paultaghey guys23:10
Pendulumpaultag: how's the west coast?23:10
paultagPendulum: different23:10
Pendulumcooler than the east coast I hope?23:10
paultagI don't speak spanish (like at all), so It's hard for me to understand some people23:10
paultagPendulum: it's not bad at all23:10
paultagI'm stressing a bit about the interview23:12
Pendulumaww23:13
* Pendulum hugs paultag 23:13
paultagthanks Pendulum :)23:13
paultagI don't interview well23:14
paultagbut I work well, so it leads to me being unemployed :)23:14
Pendulumyou're awesome. If they don't figure that out, they're the ones who are losing23:14
paultagawww, thanks Pendulum23:14
nigelbjono needs help picking pictures for his blog posts :p23:16
jono:-)23:17
Pendulumnigelb: were you suggesting that as a job for paultag? ;-)23:17
nigelbPendulum: No, I was suggesting that as a result of jono's latest post23:18
nigelbPendulum: "This really has nothing to do with this post, but... ewll, I just love ducks..."23:18
paultagnigelb: hehehe23:19
Pendulumnothing wrong with ducks23:19
paultagI'm unemployed. For fulltime work with bennies I'd sort through all the LOLCATS on the internet.23:19
Pendulumpaultag: I hear ya there23:20
Pendulumpaultag: although if anyone ever tells you the bennies are Oxford Health insurance, tell them they're wrong and that's not a benefit is a scam and a hindrence23:20
paultagPendulum: I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the protip :)23:21
paultagSo far all the compinies I've been interviewing with have *sick* percs23:21
Pendulumunited healthcare in general isn't great, but oxford seems to be the worst part of united health23:22
paultagmmm :(23:22
* Pendulum has acquired an unpaid fulltime job of getting Oxford to actually pay for her medical care :-/23:22
paultagholy shit I can't believe it's only 3:30 :(23:23
paultagPendulum: uch, damn23:23
paultagI made the mistake of watching the social network yesterday, first time I saw it23:24
pleia2I haven't seen it yet23:46
pleia2paultag: I have laryngitis :( I fear I would make a poor dinner companion this evening23:47
* pleia2 can whisper and make honking noises, maybe she'd be an amusing dinner companion?23:47
paultagpleia2: it's cool if you're sick, I'm pretty easy going :)23:55
paultagpleia2: get better :)23:55
pleia2paultag: thanks :) I'm actually feeling much better than last week, my voice just decided to quit today (didn't even realize until 2 hours into my work day, working from home is funny)23:55
paultagpleia2: np :)23:56
JanClol23:56
JanCpleia2: as long as it's only admin work and no phone calls...23:57
pleia2hoping it clears up tonight, I have an ubuntu hour + debian dinner to run tomorrow23:57
* pleia2 will just bring a sign "talk amongst yourselves, I can't" :)23:57
pleia2JanC: I usually take support calls, just told my boss I couldn't today23:57
pleia2fortunately the phone didn't ring at all, so we made out ok23:58

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