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| === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero | ||
| jkbys | こんばんわ | 14:01 |
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| hito_jp | こんばんは | 14:02 |
| mizuno | こんばんは | 14:02 |
| jkbys | Ubuntu Japanese Teamのミーティングをはじめます。 | 14:02 |
| jkbys | 発言は日本語もしくは英語(English)でお願いします。 | 14:02 |
| hito_jp | https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/IRCMeeting/20110607 | 14:03 |
| jkbys | ありがとうございます。 | 14:03 |
| jkbys | アクションアイテムで何かありますか | 14:03 |
| hito_jp | えーと、上流サーバーどうしましょう | 14:04 |
| jkbys | できれば今月中に現行のサーバを止めたいので移してしまいたいと思っています | 14:05 |
| hito_jp | では困ったことがあればご連絡ください、でいいのかなぁ……。 | 14:05 |
| jkbys | かなぁ | 14:05 |
| jkbys | OSC京都のセミナーのお題は水野さん経由で連絡してもらうでいいですか | 14:06 |
| mizuno | はい | 14:06 |
| jkbys | じゃあ今週末までには連絡します | 14:07 |
| mizuno | わかりました | 14:07 |
| hito_jp | Ubuntuでスピーカーを作ってみた、とか。 | 14:07 |
| hito_jp | 決まらなかったら無茶振りでタイトル決めて勝手に連絡する、というルールを追加しておきたい（こら | 14:07 |
| jkbys | ヒドイ | 14:08 |
| mizuno | はい、通報されそうなタイトルを考えておきます | 14:08 |
| hito_jp | これで遅れられない！ もしくは遅れてもオモシロい（ぉ | 14:08 |
| jkbys | 他になにかありますか | 14:09 |
| jkbys | なければ議題へ | 14:09 |
| jkbys | イベント関連 | 14:09 |
| jkbys | [ ] OSC名古屋への参加を決める(6/27まで) | 14:10 |
| mizuno | 村田さんや小林さんが不参加なら、自分ひとりでブースはなしで遊びに行こうかなあ、とか | 14:11 |
| jkbys | 極力行きたいけど、直前になって不参加とかありえる状況 | 14:12 |
| mizuno | かわりといったらなんですが、8月にオフラインミーティングやりたいかなとか | 14:12 |
| hito_jp | ほほう。 | 14:12 |
| jkbys | 禁酒鉢巻を準備しておかないと | 14:12 |
| mizuno | 小林さん禁酒するんすか？ | 14:13 |
| jkbys | 君と俺だ | 14:13 |
| hito_jp | 「未成年の方とミズノさんはアルコールを飲まないでください」と注意書きに。 | 14:13 |
| Mocchi | 部屋の隅にダンボール箱を用意しておかないと | 14:13 |
| Mocchi | すみませんちょっと学生時代のノリが・・・。 | 14:14 |
| mizuno | そうですね、アルコールは5%以下に控えておきましょう | 14:15 |
| jkbys | 現時点では、やりたいなぁって言っておくだけでいいですか | 14:15 |
| mizuno | はい、やりたいなあ、ってだけです | 14:15 |
| jkbys | 他になにかありますか、今日は議題これだけですが | 14:16 |
| hito_jp | apt-clone話がなんか進展したっぽいんですがdupの先がprivate…… | 14:17 |
| jkbys | privateじゃねぇか！って書いたほうがいいのかな | 14:19 |
| hito_jp | OEMかなぁと遠い目をしながら見ていたい。 | 14:19 |
| jkbys | かなぁ | 14:20 |
| hito_jp | どうせ急いで解決する必然性はない（解決したければ自前パッチでいい）ので、トータルの負荷を上げてしまうよりはしばらく見ていたいところです。 | 14:20 |
| jkbys | ではそういうことで | 14:21 |
| jkbys | 他になければ終わりましょうか | 14:22 |
| jkbys | 次回も火曜日の22:00でいいですか？ | 14:23 |
| hito_jp | はい | 14:23 |
| Mocchi | はい | 14:23 |
| mizuno | はい | 14:23 |
| jkbys | 14日ということで。お疲れ様でした。 | 14:24 |
| hito_jp | https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/IRCMeeting/20110607 | 14:26 |
| Emmanuel_Chanel | こんばんは． | 14:54 |
| Yuzu- | なぜかPCのファンが止まらないよ、こんばんは。 | 16:44 |
| Yuzu- | 熱くなっていないんだけどなー。 | 16:45 |
| Emmanuel_Chanel | ほほう…まあ，過冷却で凍る事もないでしょうし，悪くない気もしますけど，素人考えか知らん？ | 17:07 |
| Yuzuchan | Windowsで起動すると正常なんだよな。 | 17:19 |
| daedaluz | best input method for japanese? | 21:43 |
| micahcowan | Anthy seems to be a common choice. It's what I'm using. | 21:45 |
| micahcowan | Easiest is just to go into the Language Support settings and add the Japanese language support and input method. Or install a Japanese-language installation of Ubuntu. I think Anthy is used for those cases too, though the particular system on at the moment, I installed Anthy manually (I don't really recommend it). | 21:47 |
| micahcowan | (Assuming you're not a native Japanese speaker/reader, having a Japanese-language system is good practice in the language, provided you have a good way to look unfamiliar words up) | 21:48 |
| daedaluz | so, ibus+anthy, then? | 22:11 |
| daedaluz | and no I'm not native, I just need japanese input to find better touhou pictures | 22:14 |
| Silmarwen | yay, one more non-japanese here:D | 22:14 |
| daedaluz | as | 22:15 |
| daedaluz | あたし葉日本人です | 22:16 |
| Silmarwen | how come you're not native then? | 22:17 |
| Silmarwen | sorry, didn't mean to dig into your private life:D | 22:18 |
| daedaluz | なにが”でんぱ”ですか？ | 22:19 |
| Silmarwen | if you could speak proper english until now, why can't you just go on in that language?:) | 22:21 |
| daedaluz | のよに”でんぱおんあとせいしゅのとこ” | 22:21 |
| daedaluz | 俺フィンランド人。。。 | 22:23 |
| Silmarwen | whois says norwegian | 22:24 |
| micahcowan | whois isn't perfect | 22:24 |
| Silmarwen | :) | 22:24 |
| micahcowan | He may be getting his connectivity through a Norwegian company, I dunno | 22:25 |
| Silmarwen | i'm not questioning him | 22:25 |
| Silmarwen | just mentioned it | 22:25 |
| Silmarwen | or her, sorry | 22:25 |
| micahcowan | gotcha | 22:25 |
| Silmarwen | them, let's stay politically correct:D | 22:25 |
| daedaluz | 俺のるうえでどさするよ | 22:28 |
| daedaluz | ばいと | 22:28 |
| daedaluz | hm, how to make kanji appear bigger in input box? hard to see what I'm selecting | 22:29 |
| micahcowan | Hm, I don't know, haven't needed to adjust it so far. | 22:31 |
| daedaluz | 俺は姫様にゃにゃ。 | 22:31 |
| micahcowan | But you should proofread it befor hitting enter; I'm having trouble making out some of what you've typed. Like the bit starting with 「のよに”」 | 22:32 |
| micahcowan | Though I'm guessing おんあ = おんな | 22:32 |
| Silmarwen | daedaluz, have you tried adjusting the font size yet? | 22:33 |
| Silmarwen | idk if that helps though:) | 22:34 |
| daedaluz | micahcowan: was supposed to be "no yo ni", something wrong? | 22:35 |
| daedaluz | Silmarwen: bad thing is it applies to all of desktop | 22:35 |
| daedaluz | hmm, I think I'll just file a suggestion to fine people at ibus | 22:36 |
| micahcowan | daedaluz, well, I was referring to that whole sentence. But I don't understand "のよに". The closest I can think of is "のように", but that can't start a sentence, so I don't know. | 22:37 |
| micahcowan | Oh, I think I just got it. | 22:37 |
| daedaluz | yea it was continuity to previous sentence asking what "denpa" means | 22:37 |
| micahcowan | The のように should probably have gone after the quote. And you mistyped こと at the end, unless I miss my guess | 22:39 |
| micahcowan | The only でんぱ I know is 電波, electromagnetic waves | 22:39 |
| micahcowan | (BTW, I'm not trying to criticize, just trying to understand what you wrote) | 22:40 |
| Silmarwen | japanese can be damn tricky at times :D | 22:42 |
| Silmarwen | i've studied it for 4 years and i'm still awful at it | 22:42 |
| Silmarwen | even though i had a native teacher | 22:42 |
| daedaluz | so... ”でんぱおんあとせいしゅのとこ” is... ummm.. electromagnetic waves woman and young man, huh? | 22:43 |
| micahcowan | I've studied it (off and on) for 20, and I'm still not great, either. Getting there. | 22:43 |
| Silmarwen | micahcowan, where are you from? | 22:43 |
| daedaluz | I just watch a lot of anime and play VN's & Touhou | 22:44 |
| micahcowan | daedaluz, not really sure. Maybe you meant せいしゅん for "a youth"? I have trouble parsing that too. Maybe in more context... | 22:44 |
| daedaluz | well that's the title of anime | 22:44 |
| micahcowan | Ah, I'll look it up. | 22:44 |
| micahcowan | Silmarwen, 米カリフォニア州 w | 22:44 |
| Silmarwen | you're american? | 22:45 |
| daedaluz | yea I was thinking "seishun" hs to be something else, as 少年 would be young boy and 青年 young man | 22:45 |
| micahcowan | はい | 22:45 |
| Silmarwen | your english is weird | 22:45 |
| Silmarwen | :D | 22:45 |
| Silmarwen | not what i'm used to | 22:45 |
| Silmarwen | :) | 22:45 |
| daedaluz | Silmarwen 日本人ですか？ | 22:46 |
| Silmarwen | nah, i'd speak japanese then:D | 22:46 |
| daedaluz | you know, this channel is anything but ubuntu right now. poor japanese people, having their chat invaded so | 22:47 |
| micahcowan | So, I found 電波女と青春男. でんぱおんなとせいしゅんおとこ. Your translation seems decent. | 22:47 |
| micahcowan | daedaluz, I had that same thought. Could move it over to #nihongo :) | 22:47 |
| daedaluz | is it true that nippons are terrible in english? | 22:48 |
| Silmarwen | daedaluz, they used to be fine with that:D | 22:48 |
| micahcowan | But on the other hand, they're probably all sleeping or something right now, so maybe they don't care... it's not quite 7時午前 there yet... | 22:48 |
| Silmarwen | i mean having me here, and i'm not japanese and i no longer use ubuntu | 22:48 |
| daedaluz | me neither actually | 22:48 |
| daedaluz | I use openSUSE and KDE | 22:48 |
| Silmarwen | i use windows :D | 22:49 |
| Silmarwen | i wanted to switch back to ubuntu before moving to the states | 22:49 |
| micahcowan | Silmarwen, you're talking about my English? What sort of English are you used to? ;) | 22:49 |
| Silmarwen | but since it's delayed, i'm not:D | 22:49 |
| Silmarwen | i mean i dont | 22:49 |
| Silmarwen | micahcowan, yes, yours | 22:49 |
| Silmarwen | more | 22:49 |
| Silmarwen | um | 22:49 |
| Silmarwen | it's hard to describe | 22:49 |
| Silmarwen | it's weird you use full sentences | 22:49 |
| daedaluz | huh? | 22:50 |
| Silmarwen | you actually use the correct verb tenses | 22:50 |
| micahcowan | Hahaha. Yeah. I'm weird that way. | 22:50 |
| micahcowan | Probably spend too much time reading books. | 22:50 |
| Silmarwen | i read a lot too but i'm violating the english language every time i speak/write | 22:51 |
| Silmarwen | :( | 22:51 |
| micahcowan | Correct grammar seems to be on the decline in the US, at least on the internet. | 22:51 |
| micahcowan | I violate certain rules too, but I guess not most of them. I usually even avoid dangling prepositions. | 22:52 |
| micahcowan | Even though I think that's a totally bogus rule, and can't even always be followed. | 22:52 |
| micahcowan | "Where did you come from?" certainly sounds a lot more natural than "Whence came you?" :D | 22:52 |
| daedaluz | USA never had correct grammar. It's "centre", not "center" and favourably, not favorably | 22:52 |
| micahcowan | Well, but that's spelling, not grammar. | 22:53 |
| Silmarwen | micahcowan, i feel like hitting people who whine about dangling prepositions with a shovel | 22:53 |
| micahcowan | I find more fun from the fact that our "billion" isn't your "billion", and then there's things like "aluminum" versus "aluminium" :) | 22:53 |
| daedaluz | well, you can't spell right | 22:53 |
| Silmarwen | daedaluz, it's correct to us | 22:54 |
| Silmarwen | :) | 22:54 |
| daedaluz | potassium, not kalium, is the one bugging me most. also, billion, not milliard. | 22:54 |
| Silmarwen | i think colour and theatre looks funny | 22:54 |
| Silmarwen | look | 22:54 |
| Silmarwen | damn | 22:54 |
| Silmarwen | :D | 22:54 |
| daedaluz | get a grip. and then, fahrenheits and feets, get a grip! | 22:54 |
| micahcowan | "feets"? | 22:55 |
| daedaluz | it's not 18th century anymore | 22:55 |
| micahcowan | We actually use theatre on occasion. Mostly when we're trying to sound a bit posh. | 22:55 |
| Silmarwen | fahrenheits and foot are fine, you just have to get used to it | 22:55 |
| Silmarwen | them | 22:55 |
| micahcowan | Silmarwen, you're American as well? Because, your whois says .hu :) | 22:56 |
| Silmarwen | i'm not | 22:56 |
| Silmarwen | but i prefer american english | 22:56 |
| micahcowan | Gotcha. | 22:56 |
| daedaluz | mikä teitä vaivaa? | 22:56 |
| micahcowan | :D | 22:56 |
| daedaluz | colonies should use proper english IMHO | 22:57 |
| Silmarwen | and my whois will say unknown soon, hopefully | 22:57 |
| Silmarwen | :) | 22:57 |
| daedaluz | how to mask IP? I've been wondering that | 22:57 |
| micahcowan | daedaluz, not entirely sure. I think it's a faq at the freenode site, though. | 22:57 |
| daedaluz | thanks for tip. when I'm in university network, people can pinpoint my room in IRC, so it's kinda unpleasant | 22:58 |
| micahcowan | Aha. :) | 22:58 |
| micahcowan | Well, I think it varies from IRC network to IRC network. But you could use Tor for a more general solution | 22:58 |
| Silmarwen | tip? | 22:59 |
| daedaluz | I want to be a unknown hime-sama, nya~ | 22:59 |
| Silmarwen | this will go straight against my political correctness but | 23:00 |
| Silmarwen | that sounded gay | 23:00 |
| Silmarwen | not that there's anything wrong with the homosexual | 23:00 |
| micahcowan | It sounds pretty usual to me | 23:00 |
| micahcowan | Well, with a "the" before it, anyway | 23:00 |
| Silmarwen | i meant homosexual people? | 23:02 |
| micahcowan | daedaluz, http://myanimelist.net/anime/9379/Denpa_Onna_to_Seishun_Otoko has it as "Electromagnetic Wave Woman and Adolescent Man", FWIW | 23:03 |
| daedaluz | あたしはおんあのこです。。。 | 23:03 |
| micahcowan | Silmarwen, "the homosexual" is grammatically correct. | 23:03 |
| Silmarwen | i know | 23:03 |
| Silmarwen | that's why i used it | 23:03 |
| micahcowan | Though some people object to referring to people by an adjective. | 23:03 |
| micahcowan | Personally, I think such arguments are silly. Go yell at Hugo for "Les Miserables" while you're at it ;) | 23:03 |
| Silmarwen | um | 23:04 |
| Silmarwen | what are we talking about exactly? | 23:04 |
| Silmarwen | i said he sounded gay then added there's nothing wrong with homosexual people | 23:04 |
| micahcowan | daedaluz, そうだとおもった。 姫様だってからね :) | 23:04 |
| micahcowan | Silmarwen, and then you asked if it'd be better as "homosexual people", unless I misunderstood your question | 23:05 |
| micahcowan | The "It sounds pretty usual" thing I said was referring to daedaluz saying "thanks for the tip" | 23:05 |
| Silmarwen | i didn't | 23:05 |
| Silmarwen | i thought you were referring to what i said | 23:05 |
| micahcowan | Gotcha. | 23:06 |
| Silmarwen | i understood it after a while too, anyway | 23:06 |
| Silmarwen | tip made me think of the pointy end of an object | 23:06 |
| micahcowan | Oh. I think I get it now. :) | 23:07 |
| Silmarwen | or the extra money you give to the waiter:) | 23:07 |
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