[14:01] <jkbys> こんばんわ
[14:02] <hito_jp> こんばんは
[14:02] <mizuno> こんばんは
[14:02] <jkbys> Ubuntu Japanese Teamのミーティングをはじめます。
[14:02] <jkbys> 発言は日本語もしくは英語(English)でお願いします。
[14:03] <hito_jp> https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/IRCMeeting/20110607
[14:03] <jkbys> ありがとうございます。
[14:03] <jkbys> アクションアイテムで何かありますか
[14:04] <hito_jp> えーと、上流サーバーどうしましょう
[14:05] <jkbys> できれば今月中に現行のサーバを止めたいので移してしまいたいと思っています
[14:05] <hito_jp> では困ったことがあればご連絡ください、でいいのかなぁ……。
[14:05] <jkbys> かなぁ
[14:06] <jkbys> OSC京都のセミナーのお題は水野さん経由で連絡してもらうでいいですか
[14:06] <mizuno> はい
[14:07] <jkbys> じゃあ今週末までには連絡します
[14:07] <mizuno> わかりました
[14:07] <hito_jp> Ubuntuでスピーカーを作ってみた、とか。
[14:07] <hito_jp> 決まらなかったら無茶振りでタイトル決めて勝手に連絡する、というルールを追加しておきたい（こら
[14:08] <jkbys> ヒドイ
[14:08] <mizuno> はい、通報されそうなタイトルを考えておきます
[14:08] <hito_jp> これで遅れられない！　もしくは遅れてもオモシロい（ぉ
[14:09] <jkbys> 他になにかありますか
[14:09] <jkbys> なければ議題へ
[14:09] <jkbys> イベント関連
[14:10] <jkbys> [ ] OSC名古屋への参加を決める(6/27まで)
[14:11] <mizuno> 村田さんや小林さんが不参加なら、自分ひとりでブースはなしで遊びに行こうかなあ、とか
[14:12] <jkbys> 極力行きたいけど、直前になって不参加とかありえる状況
[14:12] <mizuno> かわりといったらなんですが、8月にオフラインミーティングやりたいかなとか
[14:12] <hito_jp> ほほう。
[14:12] <jkbys> 禁酒鉢巻を準備しておかないと
[14:13] <mizuno> 小林さん禁酒するんすか？
[14:13] <jkbys> 君と俺だ
[14:13] <hito_jp> 「未成年の方とミズノさんはアルコールを飲まないでください」と注意書きに。
[14:13] <Mocchi> 部屋の隅にダンボール箱を用意しておかないと
[14:14] <Mocchi> すみませんちょっと学生時代のノリが・・・。
[14:15] <mizuno> そうですね、アルコールは5%以下に控えておきましょう
[14:15] <jkbys> 現時点では、やりたいなぁって言っておくだけでいいですか
[14:15] <mizuno> はい、やりたいなあ、ってだけです
[14:16] <jkbys> 他になにかありますか、今日は議題これだけですが
[14:17] <hito_jp> apt-clone話がなんか進展したっぽいんですがdupの先がprivate……
[14:19] <jkbys> privateじゃねぇか！って書いたほうがいいのかな
[14:19] <hito_jp> OEMかなぁと遠い目をしながら見ていたい。
[14:20] <jkbys> かなぁ
[14:20] <hito_jp> どうせ急いで解決する必然性はない（解決したければ自前パッチでいい）ので、トータルの負荷を上げてしまうよりはしばらく見ていたいところです。
[14:21] <jkbys> ではそういうことで
[14:22] <jkbys> 他になければ終わりましょうか
[14:23] <jkbys> 次回も火曜日の22:00でいいですか？
[14:23] <hito_jp> はい
[14:23] <Mocchi> はい
[14:23] <mizuno> はい
[14:24] <jkbys> 14日ということで。お疲れ様でした。
[14:26] <hito_jp> https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/IRCMeeting/20110607
[14:54] <Emmanuel_Chanel> こんばんは．
[16:44] <Yuzu-> なぜかPCのファンが止まらないよ、こんばんは。
[16:45] <Yuzu-> 熱くなっていないんだけどなー。
[17:07] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ほほう…まあ，過冷却で凍る事もないでしょうし，悪くない気もしますけど，素人考えか知らん？
[17:19] <Yuzuchan> Windowsで起動すると正常なんだよな。
[21:43] <daedaluz> best input method for japanese?
[21:45] <micahcowan> Anthy seems to be a common choice. It's what I'm using.
[21:47] <micahcowan> Easiest is just to go into the Language Support settings and add the Japanese language support and input method.  Or install a Japanese-language installation of Ubuntu. I think Anthy is used for those cases too, though the particular system on at the moment, I installed Anthy manually (I don't really recommend it).
[21:48] <micahcowan> (Assuming you're not a native Japanese speaker/reader, having a Japanese-language system is good practice in the language, provided you have a good way to look unfamiliar words up)
[22:11] <daedaluz> so, ibus+anthy, then?
[22:14] <daedaluz> and no I'm not native, I just need japanese input to find better touhou pictures
[22:14] <Silmarwen> yay, one more non-japanese here:D
[22:15] <daedaluz> as
[22:16] <daedaluz> あたし葉日本人です
[22:17] <Silmarwen> how come you're not native then?
[22:18] <Silmarwen> sorry, didn't mean to dig into your private life:D
[22:19] <daedaluz> なにが”でんぱ”ですか？
[22:21] <Silmarwen> if you could speak proper english until now, why can't you just go on in that language?:)
[22:21] <daedaluz> のよに”でんぱおんあとせいしゅのとこ”
[22:23] <daedaluz> 俺フィンランド人。。。
[22:24] <Silmarwen> whois says norwegian
[22:24] <micahcowan> whois isn't perfect
[22:24] <Silmarwen> :)
[22:25] <micahcowan> He may be getting his connectivity through a Norwegian company, I dunno
[22:25] <Silmarwen> i'm not questioning him
[22:25] <Silmarwen> just mentioned it
[22:25] <Silmarwen> or her, sorry
[22:25] <micahcowan> gotcha
[22:25] <Silmarwen> them, let's stay politically correct:D
[22:28] <daedaluz> 俺のるうえでどさするよ
[22:28] <daedaluz> ばいと
[22:29] <daedaluz> hm, how to make kanji appear bigger in input box? hard to see what I'm selecting
[22:31] <micahcowan> Hm, I don't know, haven't needed to adjust it so far.
[22:31] <daedaluz> 俺は姫様にゃにゃ。
[22:32] <micahcowan> But you should proofread it befor hitting enter; I'm having trouble making out some of what you've typed. Like the bit starting with 「のよに”」
[22:32] <micahcowan> Though I'm guessing おんあ = おんな
[22:33] <Silmarwen> daedaluz, have you tried adjusting the font size yet?
[22:34] <Silmarwen> idk if that helps though:)
[22:35] <daedaluz> micahcowan: was supposed to be "no yo ni", something wrong?
[22:35] <daedaluz> Silmarwen: bad thing is it applies to all of desktop
[22:36] <daedaluz> hmm, I think I'll just file a suggestion to fine people at ibus
[22:37] <micahcowan> daedaluz, well, I was referring to that whole sentence. But I don't understand "のよに". The closest I can think of is "のように", but that can't start a sentence, so I don't know.
[22:37] <micahcowan> Oh, I think I just got it.
[22:37] <daedaluz> yea it was continuity to previous sentence asking what "denpa" means
[22:39] <micahcowan> The のように should probably have gone after the quote. And you mistyped こと at the end, unless I miss my guess
[22:39] <micahcowan> The only でんぱ I know is 電波, electromagnetic waves
[22:40] <micahcowan> (BTW, I'm not trying to criticize, just trying to understand what you wrote)
[22:42] <Silmarwen> japanese can be damn tricky at times :D
[22:42] <Silmarwen> i've studied it for 4 years and i'm still awful at it
[22:42] <Silmarwen> even though i had a native teacher
[22:43] <daedaluz> so...　”でんぱおんあとせいしゅのとこ”　is... ummm.. electromagnetic waves woman and young man, huh?
[22:43] <micahcowan> I've studied it (off and on) for 20, and I'm still not great, either. Getting there.
[22:43] <Silmarwen> micahcowan, where are you from?
[22:44] <daedaluz> I just watch a lot of anime and play VN's & Touhou
[22:44] <micahcowan> daedaluz, not really sure. Maybe you meant せいしゅん for "a youth"? I have trouble parsing that too. Maybe in more context...
[22:44] <daedaluz> well that's the title of anime
[22:44] <micahcowan> Ah, I'll look it up.
[22:44] <micahcowan> Silmarwen, 米カリフォニア州  w
[22:45] <Silmarwen> you're american?
[22:45] <daedaluz> yea I was thinking "seishun" hs to be something else, as 少年 would be young boy and 青年 young man
[22:45] <micahcowan> はい
[22:45] <Silmarwen> your english is weird
[22:45] <Silmarwen> :D
[22:45] <Silmarwen> not what i'm used to
[22:45] <Silmarwen> :)
[22:46] <daedaluz> Silmarwen 日本人ですか？
[22:46] <Silmarwen> nah, i'd speak japanese then:D
[22:47] <daedaluz> you know, this channel is anything but ubuntu right now. poor japanese people, having their chat invaded so
[22:47] <micahcowan> So, I found 電波女と青春男. でんぱおんなとせいしゅんおとこ. Your translation seems decent.
[22:47] <micahcowan> daedaluz, I had that same thought. Could move it over to #nihongo :)
[22:48] <daedaluz> is it true that nippons are terrible in english?
[22:48] <Silmarwen> daedaluz, they used to be fine with that:D
[22:48] <micahcowan> But on the other hand, they're probably all sleeping or something right now, so maybe they don't care... it's not quite 7時午前 there yet...
[22:48] <Silmarwen> i mean having me here, and i'm not japanese and i no longer use ubuntu
[22:48] <daedaluz> me neither actually
[22:48] <daedaluz> I use openSUSE and KDE
[22:49] <Silmarwen> i use windows :D
[22:49] <Silmarwen> i wanted to switch back to ubuntu before moving to the states
[22:49] <micahcowan> Silmarwen, you're talking about my English? What sort of English are you used to? ;)
[22:49] <Silmarwen> but since it's delayed, i'm not:D
[22:49] <Silmarwen> i mean i dont
[22:49] <Silmarwen> micahcowan, yes, yours
[22:49] <Silmarwen> more
[22:49] <Silmarwen> um
[22:49] <Silmarwen> it's hard to describe
[22:49] <Silmarwen> it's weird you use full sentences
[22:50] <daedaluz> huh?
[22:50] <Silmarwen> you actually use the correct verb tenses
[22:50] <micahcowan> Hahaha. Yeah. I'm weird that way.
[22:50] <micahcowan> Probably spend too much time reading books.
[22:51] <Silmarwen> i read a lot too but i'm violating the english language every time i speak/write
[22:51] <Silmarwen> :(
[22:51] <micahcowan> Correct grammar seems to be on the decline in the US, at least on the internet.
[22:52] <micahcowan> I violate certain rules too, but I guess not most of them. I usually even avoid dangling prepositions.
[22:52] <micahcowan> Even though I think that's a totally bogus rule, and can't even always be followed.
[22:52] <micahcowan> "Where did you come from?" certainly sounds a lot more natural than "Whence came you?" :D
[22:52] <daedaluz> USA never had correct grammar. It's "centre", not "center" and favourably, not favorably
[22:53] <micahcowan> Well, but that's spelling, not grammar.
[22:53] <Silmarwen> micahcowan, i feel like hitting people who whine about dangling prepositions with a shovel
[22:53] <micahcowan> I find more fun from the fact that our "billion" isn't your "billion", and then there's things like "aluminum" versus "aluminium" :)
[22:53] <daedaluz> well, you can't spell right
[22:54] <Silmarwen> daedaluz, it's correct to us
[22:54] <Silmarwen> :)
[22:54] <daedaluz> potassium, not kalium, is the one bugging me most. also, billion, not milliard.
[22:54] <Silmarwen> i think colour and theatre looks funny
[22:54] <Silmarwen> look
[22:54] <Silmarwen> damn
[22:54] <Silmarwen> :D
[22:54] <daedaluz> get a grip. and then, fahrenheits and feets, get a grip!
[22:55] <micahcowan> "feets"?
[22:55] <daedaluz> it's not 18th century anymore
[22:55] <micahcowan> We actually use theatre on occasion. Mostly when we're trying to sound a bit posh.
[22:55] <Silmarwen> fahrenheits and foot are fine, you just have to get used to it
[22:55] <Silmarwen> them
[22:56] <micahcowan> Silmarwen, you're American as well? Because, your whois says .hu :)
[22:56] <Silmarwen> i'm not
[22:56] <Silmarwen> but i prefer american english
[22:56] <micahcowan> Gotcha.
[22:56] <daedaluz> mikä teitä vaivaa?
[22:56] <micahcowan> :D
[22:57] <daedaluz> colonies should use proper english IMHO
[22:57] <Silmarwen> and my whois will say unknown soon, hopefully
[22:57] <Silmarwen> :)
[22:57] <daedaluz> how to mask IP? I've been wondering that
[22:57] <micahcowan> daedaluz, not entirely sure. I think it's a faq at the freenode site, though.
[22:58] <daedaluz> thanks for tip. when I'm in university network, people can pinpoint my room in IRC, so it's kinda unpleasant
[22:58] <micahcowan> Aha. :)
[22:58] <micahcowan> Well, I think it varies from IRC network to IRC network. But you could use Tor for a more general solution
[22:59] <Silmarwen> tip?
[22:59] <daedaluz> I want to be a unknown hime-sama, nya~
[23:00] <Silmarwen> this will go straight against my political correctness but
[23:00] <Silmarwen> that sounded gay
[23:00] <Silmarwen> not that there's anything wrong with the homosexual
[23:00] <micahcowan> It sounds pretty usual to me
[23:00] <micahcowan> Well, with a "the" before it, anyway
[23:02] <Silmarwen> i meant homosexual people?
[23:03] <micahcowan> daedaluz, http://myanimelist.net/anime/9379/Denpa_Onna_to_Seishun_Otoko has it as "Electromagnetic Wave Woman and Adolescent Man", FWIW
[23:03] <daedaluz> あたしはおんあのこです。。。
[23:03] <micahcowan> Silmarwen, "the homosexual" is grammatically correct.
[23:03] <Silmarwen> i know
[23:03] <Silmarwen> that's why i used it
[23:03] <micahcowan> Though some people object to referring to people by an adjective.
[23:03] <micahcowan> Personally, I think such arguments are silly. Go yell at Hugo for "Les Miserables" while you're at it ;)
[23:04] <Silmarwen> um
[23:04] <Silmarwen> what are we talking about exactly?
[23:04] <Silmarwen> i said he sounded gay then added there's nothing wrong with homosexual people
[23:04] <micahcowan> daedaluz, そうだとおもった。　姫様だってからね :)
[23:05] <micahcowan> Silmarwen, and then you asked if it'd be better as "homosexual people", unless I misunderstood your question
[23:05] <micahcowan> The "It sounds pretty usual" thing I said was referring to daedaluz saying "thanks for the tip"
[23:05] <Silmarwen> i didn't
[23:05] <Silmarwen> i thought you were referring to what i said
[23:06] <micahcowan> Gotcha.
[23:06] <Silmarwen> i understood it after a while too, anyway
[23:06] <Silmarwen> tip made me think of the pointy end of an object
[23:07] <micahcowan> Oh. I think I get it now. :)
[23:07] <Silmarwen> or the extra money you give to the waiter:)