| ohsix | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/793796 i filed a bug about it, if anyone has appropriate tags to add; or people to subscribe | 00:37 |
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| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 793796 in linux "2.6.38-10 panic after ejecting drive" [Undecided,New] | 00:37 |
| ohsix | woo confirmed, i wonder if someone was waiting for a report :D | 00:53 |
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| apw | ohsix, the confirmed update was likely a bot | 08:07 |
| apw | ohsix, can you get the picture attached to the bug please | 08:07 |
| ohsix | i attached one, did it not make it? | 08:07 |
| apw | ohsix, bah you did, stupid interface hiding it from me | 08:09 |
| ohsix | there were only 2 scsi/block/vm patches in the changelog that might have something to do with it but none that i can see how | 08:10 |
| ohsix | you can probably reproduce it easily enough; it's on x86_64 but i don't know if that matters | 08:12 |
| apw | ohsix, yep i am sure they will, i've seen similar on .39, but neither of those boxes boot at the moment | 08:12 |
| apw | i've tagged it up for the stable peep to sort out | 08:12 |
| ohsix | i was trying .39 from the xorg-edgers ppa for other reasons & hit it a week or two ago; didn't report a bug but i did tell one of the guys on top of that stuff | 08:13 |
| jussi | Morning all | 08:21 |
| jussi | Ive managed to reproduce https://launchpad.net/bugs/792291 and the machine is still on, is there anyone about that can help me get anything out of the machine to help debug? | 08:23 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 792291 in linux "Machine hung, display frozen" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:23 |
| apw | jussi, do you know what you did to reproduce it? if so record that | 08:27 |
| apw | i seem to remember we didn't know if the machine is still alive on the network or not, you could try and determine that | 08:27 |
| jussi | apw: unfortunately not, its happened several times, at random intervals. | 08:28 |
| jussi | apw: let me try | 08:28 |
| jussi | Hrm, Ive no idea of that machines ip (we have a dhcp system here), but the network lights near the cable are still blinking | 08:29 |
| apw | jussi, if you know the machine name, name.local often works as a hostname on the local lan | 08:29 |
| jussi | yeah, it doesnt appear to be reponsive | 08:30 |
| apw | jussi, and you have tried the sysrq options out? | 08:31 |
| jussi | ahh, reisub rebooted it. | 08:32 |
| apw | jussi, so in theory you may have some output in your logs sync'd to disk maybe, cirtainly worth looking now | 08:33 |
| apw | jussi, and record that reisub did something too | 08:33 |
| jussi | apw: ok. which logs in particular are wothe looking at ? | 08:33 |
| apw | syslog contains the output of dmesg if we are lucky | 08:34 |
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| apw | looknig for sysrq may help | 08:34 |
| smb | morning | 08:34 |
| apw | smb, moin | 08:34 |
| apw | jussi, was this the one with a moving mouse cursor ? | 08:35 |
| jussi | apw: no, total freeze, different machine | 08:35 |
| jussi | is it safe to pastebin the syslog? | 08:36 |
| apw | jussi, has this problem aways existed on natty? | 08:36 |
| apw | (trying to work out where it might have been introduced) | 08:36 |
| jussi | apw: we only bought/installed the machine a few weeks ago, and it has happened several times since | 08:36 |
| apw | jussi, i think pastbin is ok, you could grep for your password and name before | 08:36 |
| apw | jussi, ok so we have no idea if its a regression | 08:37 |
| apw | jussi, was there anything interesting in syslog ? | 08:37 |
| jussi | apw: Im looking, but let me share it with you also, because Im not certain what to look for. | 08:38 |
| ohsix | jussi: are you running 2.6.38-10 on that? | 08:41 |
| jussi | ohsix: no, 2.6.38-8 (x86_64) | 08:42 |
| apw | Jun 7 10:32:05 monster kernel: [81028.414275] SysRq : Keyboard mode set to system default | 08:45 |
| apw | Jun 7 10:32:07 monster kernel: [81029.756536] SysRq : Terminate All Tasks | 08:45 |
| apw | ok so the machine was alive per-se | 08:45 |
| apw | as the logging deamons saw the sysrq keys and reported them | 08:45 |
| apw | so that is useful information and should be recorded in the bug | 08:46 |
| jussi | apw: Ill attach that syslog if you think its useful (and doesnt contain too personal stuff) | 08:47 |
| apw | jussi, also the fact there isn't any panic before the Sysrq | 08:47 |
| jussi | right, so its likely not in the kernel then. | 08:47 |
| apw | jussi, include like 5 lines before the SysRQ and the first couple of sysrq things | 08:47 |
| apw | jussi, its as likely X i'd guess | 08:47 |
| apw | so next time jussi could you do the sysrq-R then try to switch VTs | 08:48 |
| apw | and also then try Sysrq-w, to see if anything is hung | 08:48 |
| apw | then perhaps Sysrq-t | 08:48 |
| jussi | apw: ok, sure. Thank you for taking the time to help. | 08:48 |
| apw | now the latter will take a while likely, you should be able to see it producing disk activity i suspect as the logs are being pulled out | 08:49 |
| apw | (maybe leave it for 1min after then continue with the reisub) | 08:49 |
| apw | then look for those in your syslog and see hwats there | 08:49 |
| jussi | apw: excellent. Ill note that down for next time something happens. | 08:50 |
| apw | jussi, good luck | 08:55 |
| jussi | apw: Thanks - I think Ill need it. :D | 08:56 |
| apw | jussi, i've recorded that in the bug for posterity | 08:57 |
| jussi | apw: excellent! :D | 08:59 |
| Kano | hi, where are the daily builds? also 3.0-rc2 is missing | 09:01 |
| apw | Kano, they are missing because some fool changes the version number radically and breaks every damn tool we have | 09:05 |
| Kano | well that was done with rc1, no time to fix em yet? | 09:06 |
| apw | yes we fixed it in part last time, but not comopletely it seems | 09:07 |
| ohsix | haha | 09:10 |
| Tommeh | There was some discussion on the release announcement about the tarball being screwed, at least originally. | 09:12 |
| Tommeh | Presumably the kernels are built straight from git though? | 09:12 |
| apw | Tommeh, luckily we don't use the tarballs | 09:12 |
| Tommeh | ah | 09:13 |
| apw | but we are getting hammered by the tags not being v2.6.* | 09:13 |
| cking | what fun | 09:20 |
| apw | i know ... and right now i can't build them with the right version as module-init-tools specifically depmod won't work | 09:21 |
| apw | ARRRRG | 09:21 |
| * apw bounces to verify a unity bug which someone has FIXED !?! | 10:17 | |
| amitk | lol | 10:23 |
| apw | seems to work too ... amazing, shame i have found another new bug now | 10:28 |
| jk- | hey apw | 10:28 |
| apw | jk-, hiya | 10:28 |
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| tgardner | apw, ogasawara, AceLan: tangerine needs a reboot for kernel update. lemme know when is a good time. | 14:26 |
| apw | tgardner, don't believe i am using it currently | 14:26 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: am in the middle of a quick build, will ping you when it's done | 14:27 |
| ogasawara | apw: I'm hopefully zeroing in on the bad commit for the hp mini | 14:27 |
| apw | ogasawara, awsome, bisecting ? | 14:28 |
| ogasawara | apw: yep. your mainline-build-one script comes in handy | 14:28 |
| apw | :) thats something | 14:28 |
| ogasawara | I went ahead and pushed the -rc2 rebase to master-next, if anyone wants it | 14:30 |
| apw | ogasawara, i assume its no more working than before | 14:38 |
| ogasawara | apw: nope, still the same | 14:38 |
| ppisati | tgardner: rsu added | 14:40 |
| ppisati | *SRU | 14:40 |
| tgardner | ppisati, ack | 14:40 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: your good to reboot tangerine from my end | 14:43 |
| tgardner | bouncing | 14:44 |
| apw | you're | 14:44 |
| ogasawara | damn, you know it's bad when apw corrects your misspelling :) | 14:46 |
| apw | ogasawara, an embaressment indeed | 14:46 |
| ogasawara | hehe | 14:46 |
| tgardner | ogI just figured apw had blurted a sentence fragment | 14:47 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, ^^ | 14:47 |
| ppisati | thunderbid formatting of emails is really annoying | 15:02 |
| ppisati | i can't make a message without stupid formatting... | 15:02 |
| sforshee | tgardner, ogasawara: can one of you accept my natty nomination on bug 770232 ? | 15:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 770232 in linux-firmware "148f:3072 Ralink RT3072 WLAN not working with rt2800usb - firmware missing" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770232 | 15:03 |
| tgardner | sforshee, done | 15:04 |
| sforshee | tgardner, thanks! | 15:04 |
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| bjf | ## | 15:37 |
| bjf | ## Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting | 15:37 |
| bjf | ## agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting | 15:37 |
| bjf | ## | 15:37 |
| * ogasawara back in 20 | 15:47 | |
| apw | ppisati, remind me, mvl-dove is identicle in lucid and maverick isn't it, and we update lucid | 16:02 |
| ppisati | apw: yep | 16:05 |
| ppisati | apw: i think tomorrow i'll do the rebase | 16:05 |
| apw | ppisati, whenever, just interested for a cve i am finishing up | 16:05 |
| apw | tgardner, about ? i see we don't have armel cross compilers in our lucid chroots on tangerine, is this something we can get easily from somewhere? | 16:23 |
| tgardner | apw, I'm not sure they exist for Lucid unless we pull the deb from Maverick | 16:24 |
| apw | oh hrm, bugger | 16:24 |
| tgardner | herton, please have a look at bug #794096. It loooks like it could be a stable update regression. | 16:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 794096 in linux "SMTP and posting to a web-form time out (probably due to netfilter changes)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/794096 | 16:25 |
| herton | tgardner: ack | 16:25 |
| * herton --> lunch | 17:08 | |
| apw | smb, about? got a sec to review a debdiff for m-i-t for me ? | 17:16 |
| smb | apw, currently taken up in server meeting | 17:16 |
| smb | a min | 17:16 |
| apw | smb np | 17:16 |
| smb | apw, k, they moved on. what where? | 17:18 |
| apw | chinstrap:~apw/DEBDIFF | 17:18 |
| apw | HRM somethign bad happened when i right clicked on a link | 17:33 |
| apw | X exited | 17:33 |
| bjf | ## | 17:44 |
| bjf | ## Kernel team meeting in 15 minutes | 17:44 |
| bjf | ## | 17:44 |
| cking | already? where did the day go? | 17:45 |
| ppisati | yep | 17:45 |
| ogasawara | bah, it helps if I actually install the test kernel I downloaded before I reboot | 17:53 |
| bjf | ## | 17:54 |
| bjf | ## Kernel team meeting in 5 minutes | 17:54 |
| bjf | ## | 17:54 |
| smb | Gah! its time | 18:00 |
| Sarvatt | smb: a minute later and you would have missed the meeting :) | 18:05 |
| smb | Sarvatt, Too true. :) | 18:06 |
| ogasawara | apw: cool, I've isolated the regression | 18:43 |
| ogasawara | commit 6067aaeadb5b3df26f27ac827256b1ef01e674f5 | 18:43 |
| ogasawara | Author: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> | 18:43 |
| ogasawara | Date: Thu Apr 28 15:04:31 2011 -0700 | 18:43 |
| ogasawara | drm/i915: split clock gating init into per-chipset functions | 18:43 |
| ogasawara | 18:43 | |
| ogasawara | This helps contain the mess to init_display() instead. | 18:43 |
| ogasawara | apw: and it appears there's already a fix coming down the pipe | 18:43 |
| ogasawara | apw: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/5/12 | 18:43 |
| ogasawara | apw: gonna build us a test kernel to verify | 18:43 |
| bjf | ogasawara, i just modified the moin paragraph levels that kt-meeting-stats generates, be sure to use the latest version | 18:48 |
| ogasawara | bjf: ack | 18:48 |
| === bjf changed the topic of #ubuntu-kernel to: Home: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/ || Natty Kernel Version: 2.6.38 || Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - June-14 - 17:00 UTC || If you have a question just ask, and do wait around for an answer! | ||
| * tgardner --> lunch | 19:03 | |
| apw | ogasawara, awsome, let me have some test kernels when you've tested :) | 19:16 |
| * apw waits with baited breath for ogasawara's testing results | 19:27 | |
| ogasawara | apw: \o/, it works. debs are on tangerine in my oneiric-i386 dir | 19:58 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, this is for an HP mini? | 19:59 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: yep | 19:59 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: am gonna push the fix to master-next | 19:59 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, cool, I'll give it a try as well. | 19:59 |
| ogasawara | apw: if you can, would you also test on the other atom kit you said was having issues with -rc1. just curious if it's still there with an -rc2 kernel. | 20:01 |
| apw | ogasawara, i've got both 32 and 64 bit suffering, got and 64bit debs ? | 20:07 |
| ogasawara | apw: I'll kick off a build right now | 20:07 |
| apw | ogasawara, good on my 32 bit machine (not the mini) | 20:21 |
| apw | yell when we have amd64s | 20:21 |
| ogasawara | apw: should almost be finished up | 20:21 |
| ogasawara | apw: it'll appear on tangerine:oneiric-amd64 | 20:21 |
| * jjohansen -> lunch | 20:23 | |
| apw | ogasawara, i'll watch for it | 20:23 |
| ogasawara | apw: generic flavour should be there now | 20:26 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, how come you aren't using 3.0.0-0.1 in the oneiric changelog ? There are still 3 version digits in the Makefile | 20:33 |
| apw | tgardner, cause it isn't going to be called 3.0.0 but 3.0 when it releases | 20:34 |
| apw | tgardner, and if we use 3.0.0 we can't go back down to 3.0 which is < | 20:34 |
| apw | he only put the extra .0 in the makefile cause you couldn't build it without it at the time | 20:35 |
| tgardner | apw, but this is a packaging version thats only loosely related to the kernel version. | 20:35 |
| apw | tgardner, that is true, but we were trying to continue the current system which is to use the version before stable | 20:36 |
| tgardner | apw, and I suspect the first stable version will be 3.0.1, right? | 20:37 |
| apw | tgardner, yep, but we don't expose the stable version in our package version | 20:37 |
| apw | 2.6.38.8 is still 2.6.38 in the archive | 20:37 |
| tgardner | apw, right, as will 3.0.0-ABI-N | 20:38 |
| tgardner | it will simplify a lot of our scripting problems if we use 3 digits. | 20:39 |
| apw | tgardner, we can do that, its just a change in meaning | 20:39 |
| apw | tgardner, though all the scirpting issues we have look to be cause we have Ubuntu-2.6 as searches and the like | 20:39 |
| apw | not so much because of the length of the prefix right ? | 20:39 |
| tgardner | apw, well, I was thinking about the regexes that extract ABI and the like | 20:40 |
| apw | they should be using the 'before' and 'after' really | 20:40 |
| apw | they should be using the 'before' and 'after' the - really | 20:41 |
| tgardner | apw, perhaps, but fixing them in all places will be a PITA | 20:41 |
| apw | tgardner, i think that most of it is working now, that isn't using 2.6 as far as i can tell | 20:42 |
| tgardner | I'm thinking about the LTS backports as we go forward. | 20:42 |
| tgardner | All of our Lucid stuff wants 3 digits. (I just don't know where yet) | 20:43 |
| apw | the lts backports carries the whole changelog and debian machinary with it no? | 20:43 |
| apw | the only thing which needs a little love is depmod and that is easy to fix | 20:43 |
| tgardner | likely, but its easy to avoid the 'noid by just carrying the 3rd digit. I hate inconsistencies and special cases | 20:43 |
| apw | well it feels like an inconsistancy to represent 3.0 with an extra digit and not 2.6.x | 20:44 |
| apw | but i am happy to be persuaded | 20:45 |
| tgardner | well, lets see how it goes. we've got a little time before things get cast in concrete | 20:46 |
| apw | tgardner, as long as we start with 3.0 we can move 'up' to 3.0.0, the inverse is not possible | 20:46 |
| apw | ogasawara, ok this looks good for me, i'll get these two uploaded together and tested, then we can upload to the archive in the morning | 20:48 |
| ogasawara | apw: ack, sounds good | 20:48 |
| Guest24499 | hi - just installed natty. would like to try out xen - any pointers? I last tried xen about a year ago, but heard that the 4.1 is much better | 21:15 |
| Guest24499 | google points me to pages that require manual kernel config/make | 21:16 |
| Guest24499 | is this the right place to ask? | 21:16 |
| apw | Guest24499, i am not sure that the .38 kernel has all the pieces you need to for a dom0 kernel which makes it hard to do | 21:19 |
| Guest24499 | previous versions of ubuntu has xen-dom0 kernels - natty doesn't have it? | 21:19 |
| jjohansen | Guest24499: hardy was the only kernel that had all the pieces for xen-dom0 | 21:21 |
| Guest24499 | ahh | 21:21 |
| jjohansen | they have all had the domU pieces | 21:21 |
| Guest24499 | I guess I was lucky when I last tried xen I hit hardy :) | 21:21 |
| jjohansen | the oneiric kernel (11.10) will have the pieces for dom0 and domU | 21:22 |
| Guest24499 | should I try 11.10 then? is it even in beta yet or in a position to be used? | 21:22 |
| jjohansen | Guest24499: its because since hardy we have tried to follow upstream, where in hardy we had a special xen kernel | 21:22 |
| jjohansen | Guest24499: its not in beta yet, and the upstream 3.0 kernel that has all the domo pieces is at rc2 | 21:23 |
| jjohansen | and uhm isn't the most stable thing at the moment | 21:23 |
| Guest24499 | so, would it be a good idea to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen and compile my own kernel? | 21:23 |
| jjohansen | at least from my experience | 21:23 |
| Guest24499 | heh. | 21:23 |
| jjohansen | Guest24499: you could, or you could try the oneric kernel | 21:24 |
| Guest24499 | man, linux has changed so much from my slackware days... | 21:24 |
| jjohansen | Guest24499: just don't expect all the bugs to be ironed out yet | 21:24 |
| Guest24499 | so the oneric kernel should be ok for dom0? | 21:25 |
| jjohansen | Guest24499: yes it should | 21:27 |
| Guest24499 | any pointers or URLs for a quick howto to pin a oneric kernel to natty? | 21:28 |
| jjohansen | I would just download and install the package | 21:28 |
| jjohansen | dpkg -i <package-name>.deb | 21:28 |
| jjohansen | Guest24499: packages can be found on packages.ubuntu.com | 21:29 |
| Guest24499 | ok, thanks | 21:30 |
| jjohansen | just search in oneiric for linux | 21:30 |
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| Guest24499 | umm, I'm in http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/kernel - don't see any kernels? | 21:34 |
| jjohansen | http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/linux | 21:36 |
| jjohansen | Guest24499: ^ | 21:36 |
| Guest24499 | ahh, in admin | 21:37 |
| Guest24499 | not in kernel | 21:37 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, so, how are you building this oneiric pile ? I'm getting some really weird errors. 'WARNING: Couldn't open directory /home/rtg/oneiric/ubuntu-oneiric/debian/linux-image-3.0-0-generic//lib/modules/2.6.38-10-server: No such file or directory' | 21:37 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: using the kteam-tools buildscripts. but a usual fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic should work too | 21:38 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, thats what I'm doing. hmm | 21:39 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, are you keeping a log of your builds? I'm thinking this might be some fallout due to the 2 digit version number. to whit: 'Missing argument in printf at debian/scripts/abi-check line 174.' | 21:41 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: yep, look on tangerine:oneiric-amd64/build.log | 21:42 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: you have apw's patches to fix up the version? | 21:42 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, no, I just pulled from the repo. | 21:43 |
| apw | tgardner, that is the bug with depmod, you need an up to date m-i-t in the chroot | 21:43 |
| tgardner | apw, ah, thats it | 21:44 |
| apw | tgardner, tangerine in my home are some fixed ones | 21:44 |
| tgardner | apw, which one ? | 21:45 |
| apw | once they are built in my PPA i'll be uploading them to the archive | 21:45 |
| tgardner | 3.13-1ubuntu1~test4 ? | 21:45 |
| apw | those sound right yes | 21:45 |
| apw | module-init-tools_3.13-1ubuntu1~test4_amd64.deb | 21:46 |
| apw | module-init-tools_3.13-1ubuntu1~test4_i386.deb | 21:46 |
| apw | those are the right ones | 21:46 |
| apw | ogasawara, this kernel is looking nice, am pretty sure my fans are on less | 21:53 |
| ogasawara | apw: definitely in much better shape than we were a few days ago | 21:54 |
| apw | ogasawara, yeah ... | 21:56 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, LKML: Re: 3.0.0-rc2 fails to boot on Atom appliance (bisected, drm/i915) | 22:13 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: thanks will take a look | 22:15 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, looks like you bisected to the same patch | 22:16 |
| kees | apw, ogasawara: bug 771445 in hardy (commit 5caf3ae4c4bed98bd6148021e6e934d94b5dea1d) mentions "backport of commit 272b62c1f0f6f742046e45b50b6fec98860208a0" but it is actually a backport of commit b00916b189d13a615ff05c9242201135992fcda3. the resulting hardy kernel is fine, but we have now a tracking glitch. how should we handle this? | 23:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 771445 in linux-ti-omap4 "CVE-2010-4655" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/771445 | 23:35 |
| apw | kees, hrm, thats a bit of a problem, i suspect we need an exceptions table for my match up tool | 23:37 |
| apw | kees, to handle that ... let me think about it | 23:38 |
| kees | apw: okay, cool. | 23:38 |
| apw | i think only my tool needs to handle any errors | 23:38 |
| kees | well, it's a bit odd since I'll only discover this when comparing u-c-t against the changelog. in this case I found an extra CVE in the changelog and went looking for it, at which point we can add exception maps, etc | 23:39 |
| apw | kees, yeah, but i suspect there will be more than one error in there over time | 23:41 |
| apw | and i've already wanted to mark an old commit as being a cherry-pick when it wasn't which would use the same | 23:41 |
| apw | mapping table. | 23:41 |
| apw | anyhow will let the shower brain think about it | 23:41 |
| apw | i fear my tooling will keep unding any corrections otherwise | 23:42 |
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