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NRWlionhi there12:03
MrChrisDruifAloha NRWlion12:05
NRWlionthe man who is always there12:05
NRWlionMrChrisDruif:12:05
NRWlion:D12:05
NRWlionhoe gaat die?12:05
MrChrisDruifNot always12:05
MrChrisDruifPretty good12:05
NRWlionsounds great12:05
NRWlioni have some stress (work) to finish by tonight12:06
NRWlionso i am away now12:06
MrChrisDruifWell....GET TO IT!12:06
MrChrisDruif:P12:06
NRWlionjust checking if akgraner had some new12:06
NRWlions12:06
NRWlionhi matt!12:36
ghoulmannakgraner: sorry I missed you! left my client on at work all night, which was misleading. I'll be on day today.12:47
NRWlionghoulmann: hi there ;)12:49
ghoulmanngreetings, good to see you12:50
NRWlionvice versa ;)12:53
NRWlionhow are things?12:53
NRWlionbtw. MrChrisDruif you are allowed to participate in this convo ;) no lurking :P12:53
MrChrisDruifWhere, what?12:54
ghoulmannNRWlion: so far so good, but it's still earlier and all could still go to hell :) I teach, so every day is an adventure and a stand up routine.12:54
MrChrisDruifWhat do you wanna talk about NRWlion ?12:55
ghoulmanni think i have a substantive question - what does the publication use as a style guide?12:57
ghoulmann...that is, to where does it turn for matters of conventional grammar, usage?13:02
Pendulumghoulmann: American English13:06
PendulumI'm not sure we've ever gotten more specific than that, but usually I do stuff based off Chicago Manual of Style (mostly because that's what we used when I was working in publishing)13:06
ghoulmannok. i'm happy with any, as long as there's consistency.13:09
ghoulmannPendulum: thanks for the response13:09
Pendulumthe big thing is American English13:12
ghoulmannok, i'm set there.13:12
Pendulumotherwise I think I've been the final proofreader on several issues and I don't always think specifically for a style guide, just make sure it's consistant13:13
ghoulmannthat's my priority as well. But when there's an inconsistency, it's nice to be able to appeal to single authority, regardless how arbitrary.13:14
Pendulum:)13:18
* NRWlion waits for a response on his proposal to the list until he is able to continue work13:18
Pendulumalso, we don't correct spelling/punctuation mistakes inside quotations usually13:18
NRWlionok now i know where i never would like to work inside this team ... proofreading cause my english is bad as hell regarding spelling & punctuation13:31
ghoulmannNRWlion: I teach rhetoric and comp. The last thing I want to do is correct petty errors unless they cause confusion. I prefer substantive revision and contributing to editorial decisions, but I have broad skills and a commitment, so I'll work toward being an asset in any way I'm useful.13:41
Pendulumheh13:43
Pendulumghoulmann: where do you teach?13:43
ghoulmanna high school in maryland, Prior at WVU and Bethany College.13:46
ghoulmannliterature primarily, but also advanced tech and writing.13:47
Pendulumnice :)13:48
* Pendulum will be spending some time in Maryland later this summer13:49
ghoulmannit is nice to go to work happy.13:49
ghoulmannPendulum: let me know if you need a couch or a ride.13:49
Pendulumheh. I'll be down for surgery so will probably be in hospital for about 1/2 of it13:50
ghoulmanneeg.13:50
Pendulumbut one of my other specialists is also in MD so I'm down every 6 months or so anyway13:50
PendulumI'm thinking pre-surgery I might try to hold an Ubuntu Hour if I can get the MD LoCo interested13:51
ghoulmannthey are great.13:51
Pendulumsince when I was down last month I went to a DC LoCo meetup13:51
ghoulmannmuch more active than dc loco, from what i can tell13:51
Pendulum(I stayed with maco for part of my time down last month)13:51
ghoulmanncool. i don't see much action from dc, but a lot of pr and marketing from MD.13:52
Pendulum*nods*13:52
ghoulmanni'm trying to get 12.04 release party hosted at my school.13:52
Pendulum:)13:53
Pendulumnot 11.10?13:53
MrChrisDruif12.04? That's next year13:54
ghoulmannconfused and hasty. I expect the next release to be during summer (without figuring it out. too hasty, yes 11.1013:55
ghoulmann!s/expect/expected/13:55
Pendulums'ok13:55
Pendulumreleases are every 6 months :)13:55
Pendulumso April and October13:55
MrChrisDruifIndeed13:55
Pendulum(with the exception of Dapper which was delayed until June when it came out, but that was before my time)13:55
* ghoulmann nods13:55
MrChrisDruifBefore any of use /me thinks14:11
NRWlionaloha17:14
pleia2akgraner: did you submit an rt ticket about the caching problems on ubuntu-news.org? I didn't see anything go to the editor account18:30
pleia2I can submit the ticket if needed18:30
pleia2it's really bad :\18:32
nhandlerpleia2: What is getting cached?18:37
pleia2nhandler: I never see new posts when I go to ubuntu-news.org (and www.ubuntu-news.org is even worse)18:38
pleia2I have to refresh a bunch of times, even then it doesn't always work18:38
pleia2different browsers, different computers, akgraner said she saw similar behavior18:38
nhandlerpleia2: Ah, ok. I clear my cache rather frequently, so I haven't noticed.18:38
pleia2even on a browser I've never gone to it on I get the ubuntu open week post from a month ago as the top post, nothing recent18:40
pleia2you're not seeing this behavior at all?18:41
nhandlerNope. I get jcastro's recent unity post18:41
pleia2I can't see that at all :(18:42
* nhandler makes a note that we need to finalize some content guidelines for the fridge still18:42
pleia2all I see is the latest ocelot post18:43
pleia2I can see it if I go to the direct url though18:45
pleia210:41:35 <&pleia2> can someone go to ubuntu-news.org and tell me the top post they see?18:46
pleia210:45:55 <@jedijf> Ubuntu Open Week: May 2-6 201118:46
pleia210:46:02 < jamalta> pleia2: open week18:46
pleia210:45:55 <@jedijf> By akgraner | Published: 2011-05-0218:46
pleia2yeah, it's broken18:46
pleia210:46:26 < sn9> Ubuntu Open Week: May 2-6 201118:46
nhandlerpleia2: Out of curiosity, are you logged in to the site right now?18:46
pleia2it says I am, but that's cached too, let me log in again18:47
pleia2when I'm logged in I can see new posts18:47
nhandlerpleia2: I just tried connecting while not logged in, that gives me the Open Week post. Could it be a permission problem?18:49
pleia2nhandler: possibly, but I've never seen this before and I don't know what changed18:50
nhandlerNeither do I. But it is definitely worth noting that being logged in shows the newer posts.18:51
pleia2looking at individual posts there aren't any obvious difference between old and new posts18:52
nhandlerYeah, and I'm not seeing anything under Settings that would cause this18:53
pleia2alright, I'm going to assume akgraner didn't submit the ticket and I'll go ahead and submit one now18:53
pleia2I'll cc the fridge editors gmail account18:53
nhandlerpleia2: Thanks.18:54
pleia2ok, we have ticket 1724219:04
pleia2akgraner: what's the ticket number for the openid problem?19:04
* nhandler really wishes there was a way to use the ubuntu login to add CCs to a ticket19:05
pleia2that would be nice19:05
pleia2it's interesting that they use rt at all rather than lp19:06
nhandlerpleia2: LP really doesn't work well for tasks. The permission settings also don't allow as fine grain control.19:13
pleia2yeah19:13
nhandlerThey were also using rt before lp was around, so it would require a change in workflow19:13
NRWlionhi every120:46
NRWlionhi @ll22:24
ghoulmann|homegreets22:24
* NRWlion returns the greets immediately22:24
NRWlionghoulmann: how is it going? safely returned from shift as teacher?22:26
* NRWlion thinks that ghoulmann was the teacher22:26
ghoulmann|homestill am :)22:27
* MrChrisDruif thinks NRWlion remembered correctly ;)22:27
ghoulmann|homethanks for listening to me blather enough to remember.22:27
NRWlionghoulmann: that is what journalists do ;)22:27
ghoulmann|homehm, you managed not to bias it :)22:28
NRWlionto what?22:28
ghoulmann|homemy short story.22:28
ghoulmann|hometo anything.22:29
ghoulmann|homei've got a student doing an indie study on backtrack. it's killing me trying to keep up.22:30
* MrChrisDruif isn't a journalist <_<"22:30
NRWlionghoulmann: sorry its ticking towards midnight so i am not able to understand everything properly22:30
NRWlion;)22:30
MrChrisDruifNRWlion; Still a half hour away ;)22:31
ghoulmann|homefair enough :)22:31
* NRWlion celebrates another "victory" over MrChrisDruif and hides immediately#22:31
NRWlion:P22:31
MrChrisDruifA victory over me?22:31
NRWlionghoulmann: you must know that MrChrisDruif and I are fooling around a little since we first met here online22:31
NRWlionMrChrisDruif: you aren't a journalist but i am ;)22:32
MrChrisDruifWell...wasn't it #lubuntu? ;)22:32
ghoulmann|homethat much is clear :)22:32
NRWlionMrChrisDruif: right22:32
MrChrisDruifWell, be happy that you're a journalist and I'm not ;)22:32
MrChrisDruifI am at least :P22:33
* MrChrisDruif doesn't care for things that won't last ;)22:33
MrChrisDruifThat's why I prefer wiki's...longer lasting if done correctly22:33
ghoulmann|homegoing to hunt for fodder. til tomorrow, folks.22:33
NRWlionMrChrisDruif: ;)22:34
NRWlionghoulmann: have a good hunt and a good nice22:34
MrChrisDruifFoddeR?22:34
NRWlionnice == night22:34
NRWlionfodder == food i guess22:34
ghoulmann|homeyes.22:34
MrChrisDruifxD22:34
ghoulmann|homeciao.22:34
MrChrisDruifAlright...good luck22:34
MrChrisDruifDid you do any of that translating you promised to do NRWlion ? ;)22:37
* MrChrisDruif doesn't forget stuff easily :P22:37
NRWlionMrChrisDruif: affirmative for SII :D22:38
MrChrisDruifYou would do the same for Lubuntu ;)22:38
NRWlionwould i?22:39
MrChrisDruifI think you said it once...22:39
MrChrisDruifShould be viewable in the logs a few months back...if it was in #lubuntu....not sure about #lubuntu-offtopic22:40
NRWlionwell i guess it was -offtopic22:41
MrChrisDruifProbably :P22:43
MrChrisDruif:)*22:43
* NRWlion is nervous about an upcoming jobinterview tomorrow22:46
NRWliongood n8t folks, a long day is waiting for me23:11
MrChrisDruifSleep well nhandler23:13
MrChrisDruifWoops...23:13
MrChrisDruifWas for NRWlion nhandler23:13

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