[12:03] hi there [12:05] Aloha NRWlion [12:05] the man who is always there [12:05] MrChrisDruif: [12:05] :D [12:05] hoe gaat die? [12:05] Not always [12:05] Pretty good [12:05] sounds great [12:06] i have some stress (work) to finish by tonight [12:06] so i am away now [12:06] Well....GET TO IT! [12:06] :P [12:06] just checking if akgraner had some new [12:06] s [12:36] hi matt! [12:47] akgraner: sorry I missed you! left my client on at work all night, which was misleading. I'll be on day today. [12:49] ghoulmann: hi there ;) [12:50] greetings, good to see you [12:53] vice versa ;) [12:53] how are things? [12:53] btw. MrChrisDruif you are allowed to participate in this convo ;) no lurking :P [12:54] Where, what? [12:54] NRWlion: so far so good, but it's still earlier and all could still go to hell :) I teach, so every day is an adventure and a stand up routine. [12:55] What do you wanna talk about NRWlion ? [12:57] i think i have a substantive question - what does the publication use as a style guide? [13:02] ...that is, to where does it turn for matters of conventional grammar, usage? [13:06] ghoulmann: American English [13:06] I'm not sure we've ever gotten more specific than that, but usually I do stuff based off Chicago Manual of Style (mostly because that's what we used when I was working in publishing) [13:09] ok. i'm happy with any, as long as there's consistency. [13:09] Pendulum: thanks for the response [13:12] the big thing is American English [13:12] ok, i'm set there. [13:13] otherwise I think I've been the final proofreader on several issues and I don't always think specifically for a style guide, just make sure it's consistant [13:14] that's my priority as well. But when there's an inconsistency, it's nice to be able to appeal to single authority, regardless how arbitrary. [13:18] :) [13:18] * NRWlion waits for a response on his proposal to the list until he is able to continue work [13:18] also, we don't correct spelling/punctuation mistakes inside quotations usually [13:31] ok now i know where i never would like to work inside this team ... proofreading cause my english is bad as hell regarding spelling & punctuation [13:41] NRWlion: I teach rhetoric and comp. The last thing I want to do is correct petty errors unless they cause confusion. I prefer substantive revision and contributing to editorial decisions, but I have broad skills and a commitment, so I'll work toward being an asset in any way I'm useful. [13:43] heh [13:43] ghoulmann: where do you teach? [13:46] a high school in maryland, Prior at WVU and Bethany College. [13:47] literature primarily, but also advanced tech and writing. [13:48] nice :) [13:49] * Pendulum will be spending some time in Maryland later this summer [13:49] it is nice to go to work happy. [13:49] Pendulum: let me know if you need a couch or a ride. [13:50] heh. I'll be down for surgery so will probably be in hospital for about 1/2 of it [13:50] eeg. [13:50] but one of my other specialists is also in MD so I'm down every 6 months or so anyway [13:51] I'm thinking pre-surgery I might try to hold an Ubuntu Hour if I can get the MD LoCo interested [13:51] they are great. [13:51] since when I was down last month I went to a DC LoCo meetup [13:51] much more active than dc loco, from what i can tell [13:51] (I stayed with maco for part of my time down last month) [13:52] cool. i don't see much action from dc, but a lot of pr and marketing from MD. [13:52] *nods* [13:52] i'm trying to get 12.04 release party hosted at my school. [13:53] :) [13:53] not 11.10? [13:54] 12.04? That's next year [13:55] confused and hasty. I expect the next release to be during summer (without figuring it out. too hasty, yes 11.10 [13:55] !s/expect/expected/ [13:55] s'ok [13:55] releases are every 6 months :) [13:55] so April and October [13:55] Indeed [13:55] (with the exception of Dapper which was delayed until June when it came out, but that was before my time) [13:55] * ghoulmann nods [14:11] Before any of use /me thinks [17:14] aloha [18:30] akgraner: did you submit an rt ticket about the caching problems on ubuntu-news.org? I didn't see anything go to the editor account [18:30] I can submit the ticket if needed [18:32] it's really bad :\ [18:37] pleia2: What is getting cached? [18:38] nhandler: I never see new posts when I go to ubuntu-news.org (and www.ubuntu-news.org is even worse) [18:38] I have to refresh a bunch of times, even then it doesn't always work [18:38] different browsers, different computers, akgraner said she saw similar behavior [18:38] pleia2: Ah, ok. I clear my cache rather frequently, so I haven't noticed. [18:40] even on a browser I've never gone to it on I get the ubuntu open week post from a month ago as the top post, nothing recent [18:41] you're not seeing this behavior at all? [18:41] Nope. I get jcastro's recent unity post [18:42] I can't see that at all :( [18:42] * nhandler makes a note that we need to finalize some content guidelines for the fridge still [18:43] all I see is the latest ocelot post [18:45] I can see it if I go to the direct url though [18:46] 10:41:35 <&pleia2> can someone go to ubuntu-news.org and tell me the top post they see? [18:46] 10:45:55 <@jedijf> Ubuntu Open Week: May 2-6 2011 [18:46] 10:46:02 < jamalta> pleia2: open week [18:46] 10:45:55 <@jedijf> By akgraner | Published: 2011-05-02 [18:46] yeah, it's broken [18:46] 10:46:26 < sn9> Ubuntu Open Week: May 2-6 2011 [18:46] pleia2: Out of curiosity, are you logged in to the site right now? [18:47] it says I am, but that's cached too, let me log in again [18:47] when I'm logged in I can see new posts [18:49] pleia2: I just tried connecting while not logged in, that gives me the Open Week post. Could it be a permission problem? [18:50] nhandler: possibly, but I've never seen this before and I don't know what changed [18:51] Neither do I. But it is definitely worth noting that being logged in shows the newer posts. [18:52] looking at individual posts there aren't any obvious difference between old and new posts [18:53] Yeah, and I'm not seeing anything under Settings that would cause this [18:53] alright, I'm going to assume akgraner didn't submit the ticket and I'll go ahead and submit one now [18:53] I'll cc the fridge editors gmail account [18:54] pleia2: Thanks. [19:04] ok, we have ticket 17242 [19:04] akgraner: what's the ticket number for the openid problem? [19:05] * nhandler really wishes there was a way to use the ubuntu login to add CCs to a ticket [19:05] that would be nice [19:06] it's interesting that they use rt at all rather than lp [19:13] pleia2: LP really doesn't work well for tasks. The permission settings also don't allow as fine grain control. [19:13] yeah [19:13] They were also using rt before lp was around, so it would require a change in workflow [20:46] hi every1 [22:24] hi @ll [22:24] greets [22:24] * NRWlion returns the greets immediately [22:26] ghoulmann: how is it going? safely returned from shift as teacher? [22:26] * NRWlion thinks that ghoulmann was the teacher [22:27] still am :) [22:27] * MrChrisDruif thinks NRWlion remembered correctly ;) [22:27] thanks for listening to me blather enough to remember. [22:27] ghoulmann: that is what journalists do ;) [22:28] hm, you managed not to bias it :) [22:28] to what? [22:28] my short story. [22:29] to anything. [22:30] i've got a student doing an indie study on backtrack. it's killing me trying to keep up. [22:30] * MrChrisDruif isn't a journalist <_<" [22:30] ghoulmann: sorry its ticking towards midnight so i am not able to understand everything properly [22:30] ;) [22:31] NRWlion; Still a half hour away ;) [22:31] fair enough :) [22:31] * NRWlion celebrates another "victory" over MrChrisDruif and hides immediately# [22:31] :P [22:31] A victory over me? [22:31] ghoulmann: you must know that MrChrisDruif and I are fooling around a little since we first met here online [22:32] MrChrisDruif: you aren't a journalist but i am ;) [22:32] Well...wasn't it #lubuntu? ;) [22:32] that much is clear :) [22:32] MrChrisDruif: right [22:32] Well, be happy that you're a journalist and I'm not ;) [22:33] I am at least :P [22:33] * MrChrisDruif doesn't care for things that won't last ;) [22:33] That's why I prefer wiki's...longer lasting if done correctly [22:33] going to hunt for fodder. til tomorrow, folks. [22:34] MrChrisDruif: ;) [22:34] ghoulmann: have a good hunt and a good nice [22:34] FoddeR? [22:34] nice == night [22:34] fodder == food i guess [22:34] yes. [22:34] xD [22:34] ciao. [22:34] Alright...good luck [22:37] Did you do any of that translating you promised to do NRWlion ? ;) [22:37] * MrChrisDruif doesn't forget stuff easily :P [22:38] MrChrisDruif: affirmative for SII :D [22:38] You would do the same for Lubuntu ;) [22:39] would i? [22:39] I think you said it once... [22:40] Should be viewable in the logs a few months back...if it was in #lubuntu....not sure about #lubuntu-offtopic [22:41] well i guess it was -offtopic [22:43] Probably :P [22:43] :)* [22:46] * NRWlion is nervous about an upcoming jobinterview tomorrow [23:11] good n8t folks, a long day is waiting for me [23:13] Sleep well nhandler [23:13] Woops... [23:13] Was for NRWlion nhandler