[20:53] <ajmitch> morning
[20:59] <snail> morning
[21:08] <ibeardslee> morning
[21:08] <hads> Mornin
[22:01] <chilts> morning
[22:23] <thumper> morning
[22:24] <chilts> thumper: how's Dunedin at this time of year?
[22:24] <chilts> cold or wet yet?
[22:24] <thumper> cold
[22:24] <thumper> not so wet
[22:24] <chilts> lots of rain here recently
[22:25] <ajmitch> sunny for now, at least
[22:25] <chilts> not so cold
[22:25] <chilts> anyone ever used Sympa: https://www.sympa.org/
[22:26] <mwhudson> morning
[22:29] <mwhudson> it's been very warm in wellington for the time of year lately
[22:40] <ibeardslee> chilts: no .. but have you looked at http://groupserver.org/ ?
[22:43] <chilts> I'll take a look, though this is something that's already being used and I have to make additions and fixes to it :)
[22:43] <chilts> so we can't really switch
[22:43] <ibeardslee> ahh ok.
[22:43] <chilts> ah, I think Francois is using that for libravatar
[22:44] <ibeardslee> kiwi software
[22:45] <chilts> far out, it uses Zope!
[22:45] <chilts> :(
[22:46] <ajmitch> chilts: don't be scared... :)
[22:46] <ajmitch> how much of zope does it use?
[22:47] <chilts> I am ... though I know my thoughts of zope are tarnished with having to use Plone once
[22:47] <chilts> I know reed likes Zope
[22:47] <ajmitch> it's not so bad if it's just using a few zope components
[22:48] <chilts> not sure I like the way it downloads all the dependencies (all 30MB) of them, into it's own little virtual world
[22:48] <chilts> I guess DEbian/Ubunut packages would fix that
[22:48] <chilts> gah, bad typing
[22:48] <mwhudson> oh, that's richard's thing isn't it?
[22:49] <mwhudson> it's pretty zope i think
[22:49] <chilts> Richard?
[22:49] <mwhudson> richard waid
[22:49] <mwhudson> i used to share an office with him
[22:50] <chilts> cool
[22:50] <chilts> mwhudson: you're in Welly aren't you? coming to the PerlMongers quiz next Tuesday?
[22:50] <chilts> it's not about Perl (if you're worried)
[22:50] <chilts> it's just about Open Source in general
[22:51] <mwhudson> um
[22:51] <mwhudson> maybe?
[22:51] <chilts> :)