[14:00] <yml> Hello is there someone aware of the certification testing program ?
[14:00] <yml> I am just finish an 2 hours phone call non sense with dell
[14:01] <yml> where I am trying to buy a certified laptop with ubuntu preinstall
[14:01] <yml> the result is that they propose a FREE DOS version
[14:02] <yml> 300 € more expensive than the same config with windows
[14:02] <yml> the value of windows would be "-300€"
[14:03] <jpds> Really? I got a price reduction when I ordered my Dell desktop with FreeDOS>
[14:03] <yml> Close to the technical  reality  but hard to understand
[14:03] <yml> jpds: why didn't you order one with ubuntu pre installed ?
[14:04] <jpds> yml: Wasn't offered.
[14:04] <jpds> yml: Windows/FreeDOS.
[14:04] <yml> on their web site they say that ubuntu or red hat are available on some location around the world
[14:05] <yml> but nobody is able to tell me where and how to order it
[14:05] <yml> in addition on ubuntu certification web site
[14:05] <yml> I read that this computer has everything working only when it is pre install with dell cd
[14:06] <yml> But nobody is able to tell me where to get this CD
[15:39] <jhobbs>  /wg 10
[16:21] <czajkowski> victorp: ping
[16:21] <victorp> czajkowski, hi
[16:21] <czajkowski> victorp: mind If I have a quick pm re emea ?
[16:21] <victorp> sure
[16:25] <czajkowski> victorp: can always poke people in here they don't have to be caonnical can be community also :)
[19:30] <mterry> Is mago (or ldtp) functional in oneiric?  There is an at-spi2 transition it seems, but ldtp is using old at-spi.  I don't know the implications of that
[19:40] <patrickmw> mterry, you are correct
[19:40] <patrickmw> until ldtp supports at-spi2 it won't work
[19:41] <mterry> patrickmw, I'm assuming there's a fix in the pipeline for 11.10.  Is there an 'edge' PPA I can try to get it working today?
[19:42] <patrickmw> mterry, I am not aware of one, but I recommend asking nagappan if he can provide a temporary solution or patch
[19:43] <patrickmw> mterry, #ltdp
[19:43] <mterry> patrickmw, OK, thanks for your help!
[19:44] <patrickmw> mterry, you bet
[20:06] <nagappan> patrickmw, LDTPv2 should work with at-spi2
[20:07] <nagappan> patrickmw, the current packaging in Ubuntu removes any at-spi1 dependency package
[20:07] <nagappan> patrickmw, I have reported this issue to jibel almost at end of the release
[20:07] <nagappan> patrickmw, jibel suggested, let us do it for next release
[20:08] <nagappan> patrickmw, if LDTPv2 doesn't work, I should fix it at the earliest
[20:08] <patrickmw> nagappan, great, thanks
[20:08] <nagappan> mterry, is there a VM I can try playing around ?
[20:08] <nagappan> mterry, maybe let me create it ;-)
[20:08] <mterry> nagappan, so you are saying that ltdp 2.1.1 in Debian/Ubuntu right now should work with at-spi2 and it's just a packaging bug?
[20:09] <nagappan> mterry, correct
[20:09] <mterry> nagappan, awesome, let me test
[20:11] <nagappan> mterry, I'm interested with the result, please feel free to file any bugs found, let me fix it with high priority :-)
[20:27]  * mterry has to figure out how to get at-spi to launch in unity
[20:42] <jibel> mterry, I tested it, but it looks like at-spi2 doesn't /see/ gtk3 apps
[20:43] <jibel> and accerciser is broken on oneiric
[20:43] <mterry> jibel, hrm.  I thought that was one of the points of the transition?  :)
[20:44] <jibel> accerciser failure is bug 790613
[20:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 790613 in gnome-python (Debian) (and 1 other project) "accerciser crashed with AttributeError in __main__: 'module' object has no attribute 'PARAM_APP_DATADIR' (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/790613
[20:44] <jibel> looks like a problem with the gnome transition