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snap-lTesting02:14
rick_h_still broken02:15
snap-lYeah, unfortunately.02:15
snap-lOn the plus side, I'm going to move everything to the faster 1TB drive. :)02:16
greg-gheh02:16
snap-land put the music on the 640GB drive02:16
greg-gman, I'm still bummed about your situation02:16
snap-lMeh, no worries02:16
snap-lThere was a still small voice that said "don't do it"02:16
snap-lI'm hoping that my actual backup was smarter than I was02:17
rick_h_sounds like nothing irreplaceable lost?02:17
rick_h_so you just gave that small voice a big stick for next time02:17
snap-lI made a directory called "purchased" which saved all of the purchased music02:17
snap-land the open metalcast music02:17
snap-lwhich I *think* I saved02:17
snap-lI'm not powering up that drive until I'm damn sure that the rest of the machine is stable. ;)02:17
snap-lBought another 2TB external drive, which should cover the localized backups02:18
snap-lso the only thing that I lost is software archives (which I can get back, hopefully) and the FLAC rips02:18
snap-lwhich aren't irreplaceable, just a pain in the ass to replace.02:18
snap-lAt least, that's what I'm hoping. ;)02:19
greg-gthe flac rips are what make me sad02:19
snap-lThat'll teach me to skimp on backups.02:19
snap-lYeah, no biggie02:19
snap-lJust takes time02:19
snap-lI wanted to re-rip a few things anyway, because the metadata got messed up02:20
snap-lran picard on a few things and goofed them up02:20
snap-lso I'm actually a little happy that it's gone, all things considered.02:20
snap-lAnd that which I lost, I re-buy02:21
rick_h_snap-l: ping, heads up, updating bookie install, will need to get the extension from http://bmark.us/extensions.html#installation manual download02:23
snap-lOK, no worries.02:24
snap-lWhen should I get that? Now, or later?02:24
rick_h_whenever you want02:24
snap-lJust got "An error occurred"02:25
snap-lItem not found. This item may have been removed by its author.02:25
rick_h_from that crx download file?02:25
rick_h_http://bmark.us/bookie_chrome.crx02:26
snap-lThere's no mention of that file on the installation page02:26
rick_h_second bullet point02:26
snap-lChromium02:26
rick_h_gotcha, yea sorry02:27
rick_h_that's "manual download"02:27
rick_h_the mobile site is broken atm, bug submitted to jquerymobile but not heard back yet02:27
snap-lUgh, fun02:28
snap-lhave to say, I'm a real fan of Chrome's sync02:29
snap-lsaving my butt02:29
rick_h_yea, <302:29
snap-lhttp://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/06/dali-clock-no-longer-available-in-app-store-this-time-for-sure/02:34
snap-lThe more I see Apple's App Store, the more I think that it's a load of horseshit.02:34
jjesseit is02:42
jrwrenrick_h_: nice tip on the bcrypt. its some of the most readable C I've seen in a while.  http://code.google.com/p/py-bcrypt/source/browse/#hg%2Fbcrypt02:46
rick_h_good to konw02:46
rick_h_know that is02:46
snap-lOK, I have faith in the world.02:52
snap-lListening to Kraftwerk's "Home Computer"02:53
jrwrenwtf is home computer?03:05
jrwrenerr... hwat album?03:05
snap-lIt's a song off of... urm...04:03
snap-lone sec. I can picture the album cover.04:03
snap-lComputer World.04:03
snap-lhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_World04:03
snap-lWelcome from my new Natty install15:04
snap-lI'd love to know why my alt keypress doesn't work for irssi.15:04
_stink_try esc + <key> ?15:06
_stink_not that that's an answer.15:06
snap-lIt works, and yes, that's not an answer. :)15:06
_stink_:)15:06
rick_h_byobu by default or something?15:06
rick_h_catching the alt?15:06
_stink_gnome-terminal?  i've had the same problem in xterm for years15:07
_stink_i just got used to esc.15:07
snap-lNot running byobu yet.15:07
snap-lgnome-terminal15:07
snap-lMaybe it's not working because I'm not running it with byobu yet. ;)15:07
snap-lThe joys of setting up a new machine15:12
snap-lHm... my graphics feel very jittery on this machine15:18
snap-lRunning rsync, but everything feels sluggish15:18
jrwrenchange your scheduler?15:28
jrwrentoo much swapiness?15:29
snap-lNah, I think it's something to do with some of the new "features"15:29
_stink_gJitter15:29
krondorwow this secureid stuff is huge, sophisticated attack on rsa secureid fully compromised, spiders into hacks on lockhead, northrup, etc.. scary stuff15:31
jrwrenits bad ass.15:32
jrwrenI've always hated SecureID15:32
jrwrenits security through obscurity.15:32
devinheitmuellerServes them right for keeping the seeding material.  They deserve bankruptcy.15:32
jrwrenit lulls CIOs into a false sense of security.. and now they get what they get15:32
krondornow is blizzard's chance!  WoW authenticator to the enterprise... actually I'm not sure if that is their own or actually RSA15:33
devinheitmuellerI had access to the SecurID source code under NDA.  I lost all respect for them from a security perspective after reviewing it.15:33
jrwrenwell, EMC bought 'em... i don't think EMC will go bankrupt15:33
jrwrendevinheitmueller: oh yeah? how were the tables generated?15:33
devinheitmuellerjrwren: highly doubtful.  But a quarter of a billion dollar hit, not to mention their reputation will do quite a bit of damage.15:34
devinheitmuellerjrwren: no comment.15:34
krondorEMC won't go bankrupt as long as they charge 15K for a disk in a san15:34
rick_h_that's the thing, you either get fewer breaks with a large silo15:34
rick_h_or a lot of little breaks, see this, EC2 downtime, etc15:34
rick_h_but the truth is, eventually things break15:34
devinheitmuellerbut but but the cloud never breaks!  That's the whole point!15:35
jrwreneven my heart!15:35
rick_h_hah15:35
krondorjrwren:  aye, I want more body redundancy planning in me 2.0.  Less SPoFs for sure!15:35
krondorwell actually I made a me 2.0 (well two of them) and they seem to have the same issues...15:36
devinheitmuellerkrondor: design defects.15:36
_stink_regressions?15:37
devinheitmuellerbugs inherited from the parent source?15:37
krondordefinitely and apparently it's been here since this project's inception.15:38
greg-gdevinheitmueller: welcome to the channel, I don't think we've met before? And, I love your homepage "If you're using Google to look for some guy named Devin Heitmueller, then I'm the guy you're looking for."16:11
rick_h_greg-g: he's a CHC regular16:13
rick_h_at least for a year16:13
greg-goh, well, that shows you how much I'm not a CHC regular :)16:14
rick_h_yea, all good. I started it because I didn't want to drive ot AA once a week16:14
rick_h_so can't blame AA for not driving to me once a week :P16:15
greg-g:)16:15
* greg-g doesn't even go to the A2 version16:15
greg-gtoo startupy for my tastes ;)16:15
brouschzach steindler mentioned that he was re-vitalizing the AA CHC16:16
brouschheh16:16
greg-gwell, to make up for it, I'll do some python this afternoon (icky python, messing with excel spreadsheets again)16:18
brouschbetter than messing with vba16:19
greg-gtrue16:19
greg-gbut for now, I'm going to run and get an early lunch (which actually, is turning out no so early for me anymore, my new standard lunch time is 11:15)16:19
jrwreni don't think the AA guys meet anymore do they?16:25
greg-gon mondays now16:25
greg-gI think16:26
jrwreni should try to hit that16:26
_stink_..16:26
snap-lI'd hit that. ;)16:28
_stink_i like snap-l's confidence.16:32
devinheitmuellergreg-g: sorry, was afk.16:34
devinheitmuellerYeah, been going to CHC since October.16:34
devinheitmuellerI'm also typically at the monthly MUG meeting.16:36
rick_h_devinheitmueller: should give a 10-15 min at MUG this month :)16:38
devinheitmuellerrick_h_: on what topic?  Didn't I just do an hour and a half in December?  ;-)16:39
rick_h_devinheitmueller: that's like half a year ago. the loco is taking over mug this month16:39
rick_h_and now that you're in the irc channel you're honorary mi-loco16:40
devinheitmueller"loco" ?16:40
rick_h_and obliged to impress the group with something for 1-15 :)16:40
rick_h_"Ubuntu Michigan Loco Team"16:40
devinheitmuellerAh16:40
devinheitmuellerSorry, I don't keep up with all the Ubuntu-speak.  I'm only in this channel because of the CHC people.16:41
devinheitmueller:-)16:41
greg-gyeah, and because we're cool17:00
greg-gLoCo == Local Community17:01
devinheitmuellerYeah, a quick google search defined the term for me.  Thanks though.17:03
greg-g:)17:03
snap-lI think I need to come up with a crank-ometer for e-mail17:14
snap-lso when my mom sends me a forward from her friends about how Obama doesn't care about white people because the Dixie Chicks aren't singing in Joplin Missouri, which proves that there's a vast media conspiracy that will take over our lives, I can send a nice one-page score.17:16
greg-gugh17:16
snap-lwhat's worse is my mom for whatever reason has become even more conservative as of late.17:28
snap-lYet she still backs the unions and her pension.17:28
snap-lAnyone else upgraded to Natty?17:37
greg-gman, that case is big news17:41
greg-gsorry, I just have to tell everyone everywhere17:41
snap-lYeah, it pretty much invalidates copyright for algorithms. :)17:41
greg-gwhich shouldnt' have been a question, and it is good that this is a summary judgment (ie: the judge didn't even need to hear any oral argument)17:42
greg-gbut the case is full of great quotes to reference17:42
greg-gbut it also said that descriptions of scientific fact, if expressed in a very obvious way, are also not protected by copyright. For example, "the Golden Gate Bridge is XXX feet long and YYY feet high."17:43
snap-lGah, fetchmail / postfix just bounced all of my mail. :(17:44
snap-land erased it too. Thanks.17:44
_stink_greg-g: oh wow, great news, eh?17:45
greg-g_stink_: awesome news17:46
_stink_so now we see what happens in other federal appeals circuits.17:48
_stink_appellate, i guess17:50
greg-gsnap-l: did you get my message about MUG and John's talk on Lernid (re: your dent about bounced emails)18:01
greg-gI sent it yesterday afternoon, I believe18:01
* greg-g goes down periscope18:04
snap-lYeah, I did, but haven't had a chance to respond.18:06
jrwrenwhich case invalidates (C) algo?19:00
_stink_jrwren: http://identi.ca/notice/7566819619:03
_stink_that's where i got it19:03
jrwrenwait. "equations, figures, adn text" were not subject to (C)19:14
jrwrenbut... figures...19:14
jrwrenfigures is getting close to art.19:14
jrwrenthere are a lot of XKCD that aren't much mroe than some figures and text.19:14
snap-lThing is, you could probably take any piece of work, and algorithmically break it down.19:16
snap-lThe Mona Lisa as a PNG file19:16
snap-lxkcd, etc.19:16
jcastrosnap-l: heya20:21
jcastroI might be selling my car before MUG, and jill has to teach20:22
jcastroso I might need a ride20:22
snap-ljcastro: OK. I need to figure out my own ride situation as well20:22
jcastroheh20:22
snap-lnot sure if JoDee is going to school on that day20:22
snap-lbut yeah, I'll come pick you up.20:22
rick_h_car pool!20:22
rick_h_I'll be down this way working in the office20:23
jcastroI checked and jill for sure is teaching20:23
snap-lOK, We'll figure something out20:24
snap-lBut regardless I'll still pick  you up20:24
snap-lmight be a little late to the meeting20:25
snap-lWow, 98.1 according to the Wunderground20:37
jrwren!!!20:46
jrwrenKARB says 9120:46
jrwrenwunder personal station nearby says 95.520:46
snap-lhttp://www.wunderground.com/US/MI/Royal_Oak.html20:46
jrwren99.7 at another station20:47
jrwrenhttp://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KMISALIN420:47
jrwren100.0 !!!20:47
snap-lI wonder how many of them are getting sunlight20:47
jrwrenright20:47
snap-lOur outdoor thermometer is registering 117F20:47
snap-lbut it's pretty much in direct sunlight20:48
jrwrenO_O20:48
rick_h_yea, it's toasty21:41
rick_h_ty AC, how people live without I'll never know21:41
The_Machine;-)21:41
brouschrick_h_: we didn't have AC at home until we had a kid21:43
rick_h_crazy people!21:43
rick_h_https://twitter.com/#!/freep/status/7819928162180710421:43
rick_h_woot for records21:43
brouschfans and understanding airflow go a long way21:43
rick_h_brousch: yea, when our AC died we finished the summer without21:44
rick_h_but there were a few days we went to some early movies :)21:44
* The_Machine didn't have AC growing up.. 21:46
The_Machinemy parents were mean.21:46
brouschdidn't exist back then21:47
The_Machinei'm not that old :P21:49
brouschsorry, i read your nick as "Time_Machine"21:50
jrwreni didn't have AC growing up.21:54
jrwreni still don't need it.21:54
jrwreni like the heat.21:54
jrwrenbasements help too21:54
rick_h_ok that is awesome http://news.discovery.com/space/big-pic-shuttle-endeavour-docked-space-station-110607.html21:54
snap-lYeah, JoDee's dad only has two window AC units21:56
snap-lone in the kitchen, and one in the bedroom21:56
snap-lwere I to have my druthers, we'd have central air in this place.21:56
rick_h_I've said it before...there's you can't do at 78deg. No good reason for it to go over that21:57
rick_h_Where do I have to move for a season high of 78?21:57
brouschseattle21:57
brouschSummers are dry and warm, with average daytime highs around near 75 °F21:58
brouschWinters are cool and wet with average lows in the mid 30s21:59
rick_h_man, I need to off my in-laws so I can move to Seattle21:59
brouschalso it is cloudy 200 days/yr so you won't get sun burned21:59
rick_h_that's good, I hate getting burned on my bald head21:59
brouschalso, anywhere in canadaland would fit22:00
rick_h_shoot, I'm next door to CA now22:00
rick_h_but I didn't realize seattle was like that22:00
rick_h_I hear they have good coffee :)22:00
rick_h_The lowest recorded temperature was 11°F in 1989.22:00
rick_h_nice! no sub-zero either?22:01
brouschhm, wikipedia said 0F in 195022:01
brouschouttie22:01
rick_h_crap, now I really want to move22:01
rick_h_that would rock22:01
snap-lrick_h_: They have shitty bands in Seattle22:02
rick_h_I'm sure amazon works22:02
rick_h_I don't do live music anyway22:02
snap-lNo, I mean the climate there makes people miserable22:02
snap-lor think they're hipsters.22:02
rick_h_have you see DTW?22:03
rick_h_not exactly happy-ville22:03
snap-lYeah, but it's misery with purpose;22:03
rick_h_lol22:03
The_Machinewhat's the purpose?!?!22:04
snap-lShhhhh... don't give it away. ;)22:05
* The_Machine gives a murderous look22:05
jrwrenSeattle climate is awesome. Its the suburb cities I dont' like.  Seattle proper is sweet.22:20
snap-lI really wish Banshee supported both freedb and musicbrainz22:33
snap-lOK, seriously? I deleted one album from Music, and now Banshee is hanging22:37
snap-lI think the community needs to lay off the crack pipe22:39
snap-lSeriously, some pretty bad decisions coming forth22:39
snap-lAh, OK, I recant22:44
snap-lApparently my Ubuntu One finshed around the same time22:44
snap-lso it was rescanning22:44

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