[00:00] <DasEi> jaybee__: most are stored there, get the numbers from terminal (sudo apt-get update)
[00:00] <RocketSnail> oh why? I would like to have both of them so I can use both
[00:00] <rinkukokiri> qin, and i have a side by side installation of windows and ubuntu...
[00:00] <rinkukokiri> qin, though most call it dual boot
[00:00] <WinstonSmith> RocketSnail: provided you have enough space for ubuntu yes you can
[00:00] <RocketSnail> I mean will anything bad happen?  (to qin and rin) :)
[00:00] <s0up> so there is no way to have compiz enabled but have standard gnome classic no effects window decoration?
[00:00] <ionwind> hello
[00:01] <qin> rinkukokiri: Nope, side by side, means one partition and two systems.
[00:01] <ionwind> i need some help please
[00:01] <RocketSnail> okay, so there isn't anything bad/ silly ?
[00:01] <qin> rinkukokiri: And it is generally bad idea.
[00:01] <WinstonSmith> s0up: do you have ccsm installed?
[00:01] <Scunizi> !ask | ionwind
[00:01] <RocketSnail> :P
[00:01] <s0up> yes WinstonSmith
[00:01] <qin> RocketSnail: Yes, have Linux on separate partition.
[00:01] <ionwind> ok , good evening first
[00:01] <WinstonSmith> RocketSnail: no. i have used somthing like that for years
[00:01] <jaybee__> DasEi, the numbers are the numbers like 22 in  "Get:22 http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/universe i386 Packages" ?
[00:01] <s0up> if i uncheck window decoration all of my movement lag fixes itself but i lose the window controls
[00:02] <sam_bris> OK thanks for trying to help.. Time to re-boot windoze..
[00:02] <DasEi> RocketSnail: dualboot is fine, to be on the safe side, consider partioning in first hand, f.e. from windows
[00:02] <ionwind> my problem.... i update 11.04 and the grub is missing
[00:02] <WinstonSmith> s0up: did you try turning off plugins in there to see if you system gets more responsive?
[00:02] <[THC]AcidRain> Free disk space, hit me up. thx to ubuntu community for making it possible!
[00:02] <ionwind> i can just came in livecd
[00:02] <RocketSnail> that's what I meant qin :/ sorry.  but thanks to you three :) I mean four :D.  and I'll do that Das :)
[00:02] <s0up> WinstonSmith: ive tried every setting in window decoration with no luck
[00:02] <rinkukokiri> qin,Is this during installation? It means that it will shrink whatever is already installed to make space for Ubuntu and will install it "side by side" on the same physical drive as the existing operating system.
[00:02] <rinkukokiri> ie: if you had one hard-drive with one partition on it containing Windows, then that partition would be shrunk down and a second partition created on that drive to put Ubuntu on, thus one drive, two partitions - installed "side by side".
[00:03] <rinkukokiri> qin http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1152532
[00:03] <qin> s0up: Did you try to enable decoration and add ! in front of (any)?
[00:03] <s0up> nope should i try that?
[00:03] <ionwind> i need some 1 who make a team to came in terminal. i try but i cant :(
[00:03] <DasEi> jaybee__:if you do an update and have no pgp-key for a repo, terminal will respond like .... the following keys are missing AF1CDFA7
[00:03] <s0up> sorry about the dumb questions, i've never had issues like this but i dont think fglrx & 11.0.4 play very nicely yet
[00:03] <qin> rinkukokiri: Mate, side by side is bad way of doing things, there is no forum post to chnage it.
[00:03] <jaybee__> ah. ta muchly
[00:03] <WinstonSmith> 10.10 here
[00:04]  * jaybee__ goes and reads manpages
[00:04] <RocketSnail> rin that's what I made qin think I was doing.  qins right, that would be dumb.  I have 250g for my Win 7 partit.  and I'd probably partit. 50g for my ubuntu partition
[00:04] <WinstonSmith> and no plan to update
[00:04] <bkerensa> Having trouble removing "firestarter" keeps saying I need to reinstall Tucan... Any help?
[00:04] <DasEi> jaybee__: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys AF1CDFA9  ,so taking above example to add them
[00:04] <Scunizi> rinkukokiri, you need a minimum of 2 partitions for ubuntu standard install.. some will get it to 1 by turning off swap..
[00:04] <rinkukokiri> qin  maybe if you read things, you would realize you are the only one that refers to 'side by side' as one partition, two systems
[00:04] <ionwind> yes it install already without problem in my netbook but in the pc give me that ,mistake
[00:04] <s0up> actually qin window decoration enabled w/ the ! before leaves me with the same issue but the lag stays
[00:05] <s0up> but if i actually disable win decoration it goes back to being snappy
[00:05] <bkerensa> Having trouble removing "firestarter" keeps saying I need to reinstall Tucan... Any help?
[00:05] <RocketSnail> also, when I use my jumpdrive install of ubuntu on school computers, why does it not boot and say "Grub not loading" and/or "Gnome not found" on some of the computers?
[00:05] <qin> RocketSnail: 50Gb is more than decent, and Ubuntu can access Windows partition with no problem. Remember of swap, you may need this for hibernation.
[00:05] <RocketSnail> okay
[00:05] <norstrom> Can anyone tell me why when I do an 'ls' listing of a mounted NFS drive, the user and group names are represented in a numerical form?
[00:05] <winut> bk, fix broken packages?
[00:06] <rinkukokiri> qin   http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/createseparatehome01.png
[00:06] <WinstonSmith> RocketSnail: the ubuntu installer has a nice wizard who will walk you through all this. dont worry :)
[00:06] <rinkukokiri> side by side = two os on one drive, separately partitioned
[00:06] <perscitus> I had a working Ubuntu 11.04 couple days ago and out of the blue, I get this wonder error from my monitor .... " Out of Range"
[00:06] <rinkukokiri> qin, according to ubuntu 9.04 install instructions
[00:07] <RocketSnail> okay I pretty much lnow whati will do to install my ubuntu, but I'll tell  you all right now:
[00:07] <qin> rinkukokiri: ok, will have a look in to installer.
[00:07] <rinkukokiri> qin,  all you have to do is click the link, it shows the step mentioned.
[00:08] <Maletor> Hi qin
[00:08] <qin> rinkukokiri: urxvt do not click links, moment
[00:08] <Maletor> Hi Maletor
[00:08] <rinkukokiri> qin well if you're not going to look at the evidence, please stop arguing an invalid point
[00:08] <RocketSnail> I'll turn my win7 part. into 2 parts, one for win7 , one for my ubuntu.  it'll be 200g for win7, 50g for ubuntu.  also there is like another part. already on my system that has recovery tools on it.
[00:09] <RocketSnail> case closed. thanks guys
[00:09] <qin> rinkukokiri: ON that shot installer do not see ANY system
[00:09] <qin> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/createseparatehome01.png
[00:09] <siolimarcolx> E ae!
[00:09] <siolimarcolx> algum brazuca aí!!?
[00:09] <rww> !br | siolimarcolx
[00:09] <beginner> so eu
[00:09] <siolimarcolx> kk
[00:09] <RocketSnail> muy ve
[00:10] <RocketSnail> espanule
[00:10] <tucemiux> hey anyone knows where I can get me a cheap PSU that's ubuntu friendly ?
[00:10] <siolimarcolx> ee mundo linux.. cada dia aprendendo mais.!!
[00:10] <rww> !es | RocketSnail
[00:10] <rww> siolimarcolx: English here, please.
[00:10] <RocketSnail> lol whoa.
[00:10] <RocketSnail> what did rww do?
[00:10] <bkerensa> winut: whats the command?
[00:10] <ionwind> ehh??
[00:10] <winut> only other thing is try removing some dependancies and re installing. make sure you dont have an extra repo messing it up
[00:10] <[THC]AcidRain> why do i get "read error" on pidgin when signing into google talk?
[00:11] <[THC]AcidRain> ok nvm. fixed it
[00:11] <DasEi> RocketSnail: nvm, nick-miss with siolimarcolx
[00:11] <rinkukokiri> qin,  well, considering when I google "side by side ubuntu" it gives me results such as 'How to install Windows 7 and Ubuntu side by side'  'Dual Boot Ubuntu and Windows - Community Ubuntu Documentation' and 'Choose the first option, which should say "Install them side by side, choosing between them each startup". '     I do believe that 'side by side'= equals one system, to os's
[00:12] <[THC]AcidRain> anyone here use google talk?
[00:12] <qin> rinkukokiri: Yes, browsing too, cool down
[00:12] <intx> is there a way I can get a program to start with X when the system boots up? (without an user logged in?)
[00:12] <winut> zgr, use terminal
[00:12] <RocketSnail> also,what is gnome?
[00:12] <RocketSnail> :stupid me:
[00:13] <DasEi> tucemiux: wrong channel here, ask in #hardware, and not os-specific
[00:13] <rinkukokiri> i'm just making a point that i have yet to see a reference to 'side by side' being one os, two systems..
[00:13] <zgr> guys is it possible to use Notify-OSD as easy as libnotify (notify-send)?
[00:13] <tapple> how do I change the automount options for fat filesystems? my external disk automounted with the showexec option, and so I can't run linux binaries stored there
[00:13] <zgr> it has so hug article on wiki ho to send some text to notify-osd?
[00:13] <DasEi> !gnome | RocketSnail
[00:14] <perscitus> I had a working Ubuntu 11.04 couple days ago and out of the blue, I get this wonder error from my monitor .... " Out of Range"
[00:14] <beginner>  ei guys, i breaking my head trying to intall a pmcia wireless adapter on my linux, there is some one to guide me?
[00:14] <RocketSnail> oh sweet ubottu is a info bot
[00:14] <RocketSnail> thanks
[00:14] <DasEi> !brain
[00:14] <RocketSnail> !gnome
[00:15] <IdleOne> !msgthebot
[00:15] <DasEi> :)
[00:15] <Sean93> update-grub gives https://pzt.me/05bw. im trying to add windows 7 located on sda
[00:15] <Computer-Freak> !kde
[00:15] <RocketSnail> hey admin_ is on
[00:15] <juniorbisono> I tried adding a myjobs script to my etc/init.d/ and tried to run and update-rc.d and got http://pastebin.com/jgYQs6rq
[00:15] <trism> zgr: I don't understand the question, if notify-osd is your current notification daemon, notify-send will send messages received by notify-osd
[00:16] <winut> perscitus, dont you think your graphics card or driver has anything to do with your problem?
[00:16] <Computer-Freak> !hacking
[00:16] <perscitus> winut,  Monitor support failure
[00:17] <winut> does it work on boot?
[00:17] <zgr> trism: so if I will install libnotify-bin it will use notify-osd to show messages?
[00:17] <Computer-Freak> !ubottu
[00:17] <winut> monitor support is in the driver
[00:17] <winut> or xorg.conf
[00:17] <winut> and
[00:17] <RocketSnail> you guys hear about lulsec hacking sony again today?
[00:17] <winut> no
[00:18] <nathans80> anyone think they can help me with windows opening on my second screen and not my main
[00:18] <IdleOne> !ot | RocketSnail
[00:18] <DasEi> RocketSnail: yes, but that's fine for #ubuntu-offtopic, too
[00:18] <LekeFly> Is it possible to short circuit a mb via the JPF2 and JPF1 ports.. ?
[00:19] <winut> i know thats the rules but it can get a bit boring!
[00:19] <beginner> dae blz?
[00:19] <dydt> Hi all, I want to make a partition that I place files on to use in both Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.04.2.  What type of partition should I make?
[00:19] <qin> rinkukokiri: Ok, never used "side by side" option of installer, and was right to do it, however, just assumed what mentioned option would place both systems on same partition, this do not find confirmation in ongoing research, so propably you are right. However I do strongly recommend use "manual" option anyway.
[00:19] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[00:19] <DasEi> dydt: either ntfs or ext3
[00:19] <trism> zgr: yes
[00:19] <rinkukokiri> qin,  I usually manually specify too.
[00:19] <SpaceBass> am I correct that I can use UUID or some unique identifier in FSTAB rather than the device, incase sata ports or boot order changes?
[00:20] <perscitus> winut, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgJnEXbMGiM
[00:20] <dodops> someone here use zsh?
[00:20] <dydt> DasEi:  Any advantages/disadvantages between those two?
[00:20] <SpaceBass> dodops, zsh on ubuntu is not stable
[00:20] <beginner> vc usa linux?
[00:20] <OY1R_> Oh
[00:20] <DasEi> dydt: the farmer is least hassle, the latter let's you use permissions under ubuntu, while you need a driver for windoze
[00:20] <SpaceBass> dodops, things may have changed, but whenI tried, it was a nightmare
[00:21] <DasEi> dydt: I like the ext3 more than ntfs (defrag, repair), but that might be taste or daily use
[00:21] <LekeFly> Is it possible to short circuit a mb via the JPF2 and JPF1 ports.. ?
[00:21] <dodops> I'm testing, and so far everything works perfectly, i'm using 'oh-my-zsh'.
[00:22] <dodops> a pic: http://postimage.org/image/1mfomjgec/full/
[00:22] <SpaceBass> dodops, just remember you are trusting your data to an unsupported file system :)
[00:22] <dydt> DasEi:  I def want permissions under ubuntu
[00:22] <DasEi> dydt: which os do you use most ?
[00:22] <dodops> Ok! :)
[00:22] <dydt> DasEi:  I'll go for ext3 :)
[00:22] <SpaceBass> dodops, nice looking desktop setup
[00:22] <dydt> DasEi:  Ubuntu
[00:22] <dodops> is old
[00:22] <DasEi> there you go dydt
[00:22] <dydt> DasEi: tyvm
[00:23] <jmm> hello
[00:23] <DasEi> dydt: just mind default ubuntu now is ext4, which lacks support under win still
[00:24] <dodops> i will go hello, jmm
[00:24] <jmm> other than looks whats the major diff between ubuntu and lubuntu
[00:24] <perscitus> I had a working Ubuntu 11.04 couple days ago and out of the blue, I get this wonder error from my monitor .... " Out of Range" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgJnEXbMGiM)
[00:24] <Scunizi> Is there a package in the repos that will allow me to draw out a floor plan?
[00:25] <dodops> opps, wrong window, it happens every time with me...
[00:25] <DasEi> jmm: lubuntu is designed for a overall smaller load, so in apps, windowmanager and so on, but can easily welded into other directions
[00:25] <SolarBoom> hi all i'm running my ubuntu on my vmware player, how do i resize my ubuntu's screen?
[00:25] <perscitus> i love embrassing ubuntu developers
[00:25] <edbian> i love lamp
[00:26] <dodops> lamp = Linux, Apache, Mysql, Php ?
[00:26] <SolarBoom> #vmware
[00:26] <gohdan> dodops: so jason scott was wrong when he said "get lamp"?
[00:26] <dodops> hahaha
[00:27]  * gohdan examine room. get lamp
[00:28] <phong_> hi all
[00:28] <phong_> any ubuntu dev here?
[00:28] <dodops> hi phong!
[00:28] <dodops> i don't know
[00:29] <gohdan> phong_: probably. i bet a better place to find them is the mailing list
[00:31] <gohdan> phong_: before you ask "which mailing list?" the answer is: "all of them"
[00:33] <phong_> hi guys, i need to install FTP ser er
[00:33] <phong_> server*, any help?
[00:33] <qbert__> sudo apt-get install proftp
[00:33] <phong_> i don t knwo what ftp server exist for ubuntu
[00:33] <phong_> qbert__, is it gui type?
[00:33] <qbert__> apt-cache search ftp
[00:33] <phong_> qbert__, i'm very GUI person,
[00:33] <qbert__> hmm
[00:33] <gohdan> gui servers?
[00:33] <qbert__> check out filezilla then
[00:33] <phong_> do they have it for linux?
[00:34] <qbert__> oops no just the client for linux sorry
[00:34] <sabiancrash_cgx> whenever I dist-upgrade ruby, passenger, gems, rails, etc all goes to hell.  One day these packages will upgrade cleanly
[00:34] <phong_> lol
[00:35] <dodops> for Ruby, Gem, passenger, whatever, i use RVM
[00:35] <phong_> anyone going for a shot?
[00:35] <usuario> hola
[00:36] <dodops> hola
[00:36] <usuario> hombre o mujer
[00:36] <gohdan> !es | usuario
[00:36] <dodops> hombre, brazilian;
[00:36] <sabiancrash_cgx> hmm, I mainly use it for redmine which according to their site has specific requirements for rails, rack, etc
[00:37] <usuario> hombre .chile
[00:37] <dodops>  I like  RVM because I can have multiple versions of rails, is cool!
[00:38] <sabiancrash_cgx> I should setup a vm and play with it
[00:38] <dodops> of course
[00:38] <rehman> hello everyone, anyone facing or faced problem with Gigabyte on board display for widescreen?
[00:38] <rehman> i am using GA-G41M Gigabyte motherboad, and on board display, but i not able to configure resulation of 1399x768
[00:38] <rehman> any work around?
[00:39] <dodops> rehman, what's version of your Ubuntu ?
[00:39] <rehman> 11.4 kubuntu
[00:39] <EagleScreen> ikonia: do you remember my problem? i have discovered that this starts to happen when I delete the account of the original administrator user (the user created during installation), then the other administrator users lose the ability of authenticate in policykit dialogs
[00:39] <OerHeks> 1399 x 768 is an unusual format
[00:39] <uragan> gnight
[00:40] <rehman> ya.. but what best i am getting is 1024x768 but still very ugly
[00:40] <uragan> anybody know about ati drivers for bt4
[00:41] <IdleOne> !backtrack | uragan
[00:41] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i change the repository mirror so i can actually get some programs for ubuntu 9.04?
[00:41] <[THC]AcidRain> and what is the mirror
[00:41] <qin> !lucid
[00:42] <dodops> I use 1366 x 768 (16:9) without problems
[00:42] <hiexpo> !eof | [THC]AcidRain
[00:42] <dodops> but, intel driver is so bad....
[00:43] <qin> !eol
[00:43] <qin> [THC]AcidRain: ^^^
[00:43] <rehman> dodops, have you done any special setting for that?
[00:43] <OerHeks> !jaunty
[00:43] <perscitus> bug 793794
[00:44] <qin> OerHeks: Hehe, it was far beyond my memory.
[00:44] <dodops> i don't know, because i use Ubuntu with Unity, and you use kubuntu
[00:44] <[THC]AcidRain> so where the source list is, i pretty much copy and paste?
[00:45] <dodops> rehman, what is your graphics card?
[00:46] <rehman> dodops, i using on board graphics coming with GA-G41M Gigabyte motherboard
[00:46] <dodops> ok, wait a second
[00:46] <rehman> and on mother board manual nothing is written about display card
[00:46] <azripah_> I think lspci will tell you what the onboard graphics are
[00:47] <rehman> good idea azriphah, i will try it now
[00:47] <dodops> rehman, run this in a terminal : lspci | grep VGA
[00:48] <[THC]AcidRain> after adding the deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[00:48] <[THC]AcidRain> i still get 404 not found in add/remove apps
[00:48] <rehman> rehman@army:~$ lspci | grep -i "vga"
[00:48] <rehman> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[00:48] <DasEi> rehman: or   sudo lshw -C video
[00:49] <IdleOne> [THC]AcidRain: did you: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[00:49] <[THC]AcidRain> thats also after adding the multiuniverse and universe
[00:49] <[THC]AcidRain> well no i didnt. but add/remove did a refreash...
[00:49] <[THC]AcidRain> it detected that things were changed
[00:49] <sabiancrash_cgx> Any hints on why sometimes now that I upgraded to 11.04 server that I get The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present in plymouth?
[00:50] <rehman> dodops,        description: VGA compatible controller
[00:50] <rehman>        product: 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[00:50] <rehman>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[00:50] <rehman>        physical id: 2
[00:50] <rehman>        bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
[00:50] <rehman>        version: 03
[00:50] <FloodBot1> rehman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:50] <IdleOne> [THC]AcidRain: did you comment out the old entries in the sources?
[00:50] <[THC]AcidRain> i added them manually through synaptic manager
[00:50] <[THC]AcidRain> Err http://old-releases.ubuntu.com CODENAME-backports/universe Packages
[00:50] <[THC]AcidRain>   404 Not Found
[00:50] <DasEi> rehman: I'm off soon, so a intel gma 4
[00:50] <[THC]AcidRain> that was the error i got when i did upgrade cmd
[00:50] <IdleOne> [THC]AcidRain: you have to edit the CODENAME
[00:51] <[THC]AcidRain> :/ oh
[00:51] <[THC]AcidRain> sry
[00:51] <rehman> sorry FloodBot1, i didn't know about that
[00:51] <rehman> DasEi, so does this driver support 1399x768, any idea?
[00:51] <[THC]AcidRain> IdleOne: nah. it went in right
[00:51] <sabiancrash_cgx> Tried dpkg-reconfigure, apt-get -f install, made sure my fstab matches both blkid and /dev/disk/by-uuid and that my partition order is correct in fdisk -l
[00:52] <dodops> rehman, run this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[00:52] <[THC]AcidRain> codename was parsed under distribution. and main restricted and all of that was parsed under comments
[00:52] <azripah_> if it's an intel chip it should support any resolution your monitor is capable of
[00:52] <thegoodcushion> How can I tell what graphics hardware is on my machine, and whether there are proprietary drivers available for it?
[00:52] <[THC]AcidRain> or components rather
[00:52] <azripah_> drivers are open source
[00:52] <dodops> rehman, after: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:52] <edbian> thegoodcushion: sudo lspci -k   will show you the hardware
[00:53] <edbian> thegoodcushion: It also shows you what drivers are installed and which are being used.  Google can tell you what are available
[00:53] <ionwind> edbian
[00:53] <edbian> ionwind:
[00:53] <azripah_> if it's ATi/AMD or nVidia, proprietary drivers will generally improve things
[00:53] <juniorbisono> apt-get dist-update does a full os Upgrade?
[00:53] <ionwind> could u help to recover my grup+
[00:53] <azripah_> I think all intel integrated cards are open source though... right?
[00:53] <ionwind> grub
[00:53] <sabiancrash_cgx> seems that running dpgk-reconfigure initramfs-tools will temporarily fix it for a reboot
[00:53] <KM0201> juniorbisono: if you've set your repos appropriately
[00:53] <DasEi> rehman: the resolution should work, not sure for effects, are you using latest natty and kernel ? (>2.6.38-X) ? gma is said to be supported better in the latest kernels
[00:53] <ionwind> i try but i cant
[00:53] <azripah_> ionwind:what's the problem with it?
[00:53] <thegoodcushion> edbian, Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[00:54] <dodops> rehman, try it:  sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=30
[00:54] <ionwind> i upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04
[00:54] <edbian> thegoodcushion: Ok.  I don't know anything about it
[00:54] <azripah_> thegoodcushion:nope, open source drivers are all that's available, offical ones though
[00:54] <dodops> intel, intel, we have problems.......
[00:54] <NiMH> Will Ubuntu run well on a Macbook pro?
[00:54] <azripah_> yes
[00:54] <ionwind> all right till i restard
[00:54] <thegoodcushion> NiMH, yes
[00:54] <KM0201> ionwind: well, that might be part of your problem, going directly from 10.04 to 11.04, is not supported
[00:54] <rehman> dodops, i am getting Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied),,
[00:54] <perscitus> wheres windows tool for usb flash drive for ubuntu?
[00:54] <ionwind> then i get for 1 hour block
[00:54] <rehman> i fired that command with sudo
[00:54] <KM0201> NiMH: depends on how new.. a friend of mine put ubuntu on a macbook pro.. had a LOT of problems
[00:54] <Jon--> Is there a way I can set up my laptop to suspend after a certain number of minutes on battery power rather than hibernate? I have issues with hibernation
[00:55] <azripah_> ionwind: 1 hour block? what'd you mean?
[00:55] <NiMH> I want one of the new models
[00:55] <ionwind> just that.... i wait for more than a hour to restard
[00:55] <KM0201> NiMH: you might have some issues, i believe hers is like one of the newest available (she got it like 4-5mo ago)
[00:56] <dodops> rehman, close synaptic or Ubuntu software Center, use "sudo" to run the commands
[00:56] <dodops> sudo apt-get update
[00:56] <azripah_> ionwind: do you mean when you reboot, it takes an hour? Do you spend that hour in grub or is ubuntu checking your discs or what?
[00:56] <dodops> after
[00:56] <ionwind> and at the end i need to reboot.... but no restard just ubuntu..... and nothing else
[00:56] <dodops> apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:56] <DasEi> perscitus: unetbootin
[00:56] <NiMH> What kind of problems did they have? I will probably stick with osx then
[00:56] <gohdan> perscitus: aloha. can you rephrase your question more clearly please?
[00:56] <ionwind> i dont know
[00:56] <azripah_> NiMH: make an ubuntu live disc or flash drive and check it out
[00:57] <ionwind> that i caming here to have some help
[00:57] <perscitus> wheres windows tool for usb creator   for ubuntu?
[00:57] <azripah_> niMH: no need to install to hard disc
[00:57] <dodops> restart the computer, and pray
[00:57] <NiMH> yeah I know
[00:57] <NiMH> which one should I use?
[00:57] <NiMH> i386
[00:57] <ionwind> i restard with lifecd i install teamwier
[00:57] <DasEi> perscitus: to create a bootable usb from windows, use unetbootin and an ubuntu-iso
[00:57] <gohdan> perscitus: asking the same exact thing does not a clear question make
[00:57] <ionwind> so some one can see what append
[00:58] <azripah_> NiMH: If you have an x64 processor, use 64-bit or amd64 whichever it says. and use a flash drive, faster than a CD
[00:58] <[THC]AcidRain> it worked. thx
[00:58] <perscitus> gohdan,  dummy.
[00:58] <azripah_> ionwind:try posting to the forums, usually have more luck there
[00:58] <NiMH> I didn't realize they were faster, I will try then
[00:58] <gohdan> !gq | perscitus
[00:58] <rehman> dodops, i don't see any updates or software center running, should restart the system?
[00:58] <IdleOne> !attitude | perscitus
[00:59] <edbian> NiMH: Usually less errors with the USB key as well.
[00:59] <edbian> In my experience anyway.
[00:59] <azripah_> yeah, mine too
[00:59] <ionwind> http://pastebin.com/pEf0gqDi
[00:59] <IdleOne> !usb > perscitus
[00:59] <azripah_> you can install everything to the flash drive too, if you like
[00:59] <perscitus> IdleOne,  he deserved it.
[00:59] <NiMH> neat
[00:59] <DasEi> rehman: generally said, the gma onboars where not too good supported in the past, but are said to have improved (no test on my side), I'd try with xorg.conf w/o compiz and a new kernel, also see :
[00:59] <DasEi> !ppa
[00:59] <winut> its all in the name
[00:59] <IdleOne> perscitus: no he didn't. We require all users be respectful at all times.
[01:00] <CVirus> How can I check my laptop's temperature ? there is no /proc/acip/thermal_zone .. I won a Lenovo ideapad Z560
[01:00] <CVirus> acpi*
[01:00] <ionwind> azr i try but im not good enogh
[01:00] <CVirus> own*
[01:00] <dodops> rehman, you've done what i said?
[01:00] <IdleOne> perscitus: if you can't follow that basic rule I suggest you find another channel to get help in.
[01:00] <dodops> ran the commands?
[01:00] <[THC]AcidRain> to update is aptitude update package right?
[01:00] <KM0201> NiMH: something you should note... my friend, could not get a USB to boot on her Macbook... she actually had to create a USB, and a CD, in order to use a linux live session.  It's documented if you do some searching (again.. very new macbook)
[01:00] <rehman> dodops, yes but getting same error, nothing is running as update in my machine, should i restart it
[01:01] <ionwind> that way i prefer some one who realy know what are doing make a team and do it propetly
[01:01] <dodops> ok, one more time;
[01:01] <rehman> DasEi, thanks . how i can run xorg.conf
[01:01] <NiMH> will checkout google again. Thanks
[01:01] <winut> if you have another pc, you can use ssh or vnc to connect to it
[01:02] <dodops> close, synaptic or software center if it's running
[01:02] <azripah_> ionwind:this isn't actually the official ubuntu irc by the way
[01:02] <dodops> open konsole
[01:02] <LekeFly> Guys i use the "touching the two contacts with the screwdriver" method for booting my pc.. but i think i have touched something els while doing it.. have i fried the mb? if i try to boot it now the fans just turn on for 0.2 sec
[01:02] <ionwind> so no choise for me .... :(
[01:02] <dodops> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[01:02] <winut> wtf
[01:02] <ionwind> i try serveral times... every time worthes
[01:02] <dodops> sudo apt-get update
[01:03] <dodops> rehman, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:03] <ionwind> so better lose all information, format all agian
[01:03] <ionwind> thanx any where
[01:03] <DasEi> rehman: disable compiz, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it's empty or not even present in default, you can get a first structure by : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:03] <IdleOne> LekeFly: probably better to try asking in ##hardware
[01:03] <perscitus> IdleOne,  i require that ubuntu work 100% of the time.
[01:03]  * gohdan arguing with ops... :P
[01:03] <dodops> and wait the system update, more or less 60mb for download
[01:03] <IdleOne> perscitus: good luck with that.
[01:03] <DasEi> gohdan: paid support..
[01:03] <winut> lekeflay, try reseating the memory with thc pc disconnected
[01:04] <perscitus> IdleOne,  if it cant do that it shouldnt be released until it can.
[01:04] <winut> and dont stick screwdrivers any where near it lol
[01:04] <LekeFly> winut: what memory? CMOS?
[01:04] <dodops> Kernel-Panic? God, Save me! hauhauahuah
[01:04] <brown_fern> NiMH: I'm not steering you away from Ubuntu, but Debian GNU Linux and Yellow Dog Linux have both worked well for Mac users in the past supporting the powerPC CPU architecture when it was a prominent feature on Mac systems. http://www.debian.org/ http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/
[01:04] <winut> memory and bios sure
[01:05] <EagleScreen> I had two administrator users, one was the original created by the installer, and the other is one I created manualy, since I deleted the account of the original administrator (because I didn't need him yet), the other administrator user cannot authenticate in policykit dialogs, for instance in users and groups management
[01:05] <EagleScreen> is there something to do to fix this situation?
[01:05] <Lxndr> The other day, someone (whose name I'm forgetting) helped me establish a VPN connection to my workplace on my Ubuntu (11) box. As of today, I'm getting an error message "The VPN connection failed." Can anyone help me troubleshoot? It was working fine this morning, and over the weekend.
[01:06] <ryaxnb_> waiting for jockey-backend to exit
[01:06] <ryaxnb_> what does that mean? does it mean its broken :(?
[01:06] <ryaxnb_> (when updating for first time)
[01:06] <winut> lxdnr: try reinstalling vpn
[01:06] <DasEi> rehman: with that card, I'd first switch back to gnome, but others may be around who have followed latest news better than me, I'm out for now
[01:06] <winut> maybe an update mashed up your config
[01:06] <Lxndr> winut: How? I thought it came standard.
[01:06] <CVirus> How can I check my laptop's temperature ? there is no /proc/acpi/thermal_zone .. I own a Lenovo ideapad Z560
[01:07] <Lxndr> winut: Also, No updates were downloaded between the last time it was working, and now... I'll reinstall, though.
[01:07] <DasEi> !lm-sensors | CVirus:
[01:07] <Lxndr> (in fact the only thing that DID happen in the interim was a windows machine logged onto the VPN. It is since logged out.)
[01:07] <DasEi> n8
[01:08] <winut> lxndr: try it on windows, maybe the server is down
[01:08] <winut> can you ping it?
[01:08] <Lxndr> winut: Windows machine is still connecting. Let me try pinging.
[01:08] <brown_fern> CVirus: "sensors" or "sensors -f".
[01:09] <Lxndr> winut: And yet pinging from my ubuntu box is failing. Harrumph.
[01:09] <Lxndr> winut: Pinging my work's web server makes me think they just ignore pings.
[01:10] <CVirus> brown_fern, Thanks a lot .. where does sensors get the info from ?
[01:12] <dodops> I'm going to dinner, see later and good night for everybody!
[01:13] <winut> lx, report?
[01:13] <flametai1> Is there anyway to make a Windows 7 Install Flashdrive using Ubuntu? =/
[01:13] <flametai1> Kinda like UnetBootin for Linux?
[01:13] <brown_fern> CVirus: I don't know too much about, I just came across that one last night when I ran "apropos power" trying to help some here in this channel. :-D
[01:13] <winut> how can i route ec controller data for temps to ubuntu? thx
[01:13] <winut> on intel mainboard
[01:13] <CVirus> brown_fern, fair enough .. thanks again
[01:14] <boodieman> How can I turn off file indexing on Ubuntu 11.04?
[01:14] <winut> i need northbridge temps
[01:14] <winut> i think it probably requires a dsdt modification
[01:15] <winut> are their some keys i can send the data to from the ec chip?
[01:16] <Jon--> Is there a way I can set up my laptop to suspend after a certain number of minutes on battery power rather than hibernate? I have issues with hibernation
[01:17] <gohdan> how do i get ubuntu to stop hiding what is happening during bootup and to show me what is going on the way debian does during boot?
[01:17] <rsharma> Hi
[01:17] <brown_fern> flametai1: Not that I know of, but I don't know much, a friend was showing me an article about Windows on USB sticks at http://www.maximumpc.com/ but I had thought that was a live build of Windows XP.
[01:18] <rsharma> I have a problem
[01:18] <rsharma> My Sansa Fuze (8 GB MP3 Player) is not being able to be detected on Ubuntu, I would want it to work under MTP. Does anyone know a easy reliable solution to my problem?
[01:19] <brown_fern> CVirus: a belated, you're welcome.
[01:20] <Guest20992> alguem tc com nós?
[01:21] <IdleOne> gohdan: edit /etc/default/grub, the line with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" remove "quiet" save the file and reboot
[01:21] <gohdan> !pr | Guest20992
[01:22] <gohdan> !br | Guest20992
[01:22] <brown_fern> rsharma: "Mass storage device" players work best with Linux, is your player Mass storage? This could be the problem if it is not.
[01:22] <gohdan> IdleOne: i love you
[01:22] <IdleOne> gohdan: I'm a lil creeped out now :)
[01:23] <winut> does that mean you have to be a creep to like you?
[01:23] <gohdan> IdleOne: hey, i heard them talk about paid support... just trying to work out a "payment" ;P
[01:24] <winut> nice
[01:24]  * gohdan OT i know i know
[01:24] <IdleOne> gohdan: Canonical offers support for a price see canonical.com
[01:24] <winut> so does a chair
[01:24] <gohdan> hehehe
[01:24] <rsharma> My has a option for MSC, but the thing is that If i put it on MSC can it also load up on Windows as well?
[01:25] <winut> or a wonderbra
[01:25] <KM0201> IdleOne: i wonder how effective that support is though...
[01:25] <IdleOne> KM0201: I know the people on the support team personally IRL and they are very knowledgeable
[01:26] <gohdan> KM0201: assume that it is quite well for _corporate_ contracts
[01:26] <winut> how does that compare to debian?
[01:26] <rsharma> I also want to calrify, the music is under MTP, if i transfer it into MSC how would that work?
[01:27] <KM0201> IdleOne: i have no doubt they are knowledgeable.. or at least I'd hope they are.. :)
[01:27] <KM0201> gohdan: i've never heard of a home user having a support contract, so I'd imagine you are right.
[01:27] <IdleOne> gohdan: KM0201 they also do per call support, you don't have to sign anything.
[01:27] <brown_fern> rsharma: I'm not sure that MS mode would make it also work with Windows, but I believe that it is highly likely, you would want to consult your online manual for that information. I'd be more worried about loosing data if you switched modes, though. =-O
[01:27] <IdleOne> anyway OT...back to support :)
[01:28] <robin0800> IdleOne, if your not a business you don't really need paid support just patience
[01:28] <IdleOne> robin0800: agreed
[01:28] <gohdan> KM0201: although it appears they do offer such a service option. not sure how that would work out in practice though.
[01:28] <rsharma> Oh alright, but other then transfering it to MSC their is no insight in MTP mode at all? Because a person from Best Buy told me personally the Sansa Fuze is best for Linux and it completley supports everything
[01:29]  * gohdan home user "ZOMG BLEEPING COMPOOTAR!! LOONIX! HOW DOES IT WORK?
[01:29] <brown_fern> rsharma: I've never used that model of player so the manual, which should state player modes and their support for OSes, overrides anything I'd say.
[01:30] <rsharma> Alright, I guess I am up for it. Can I just find out one more last thing - When I also plug in my Blackberry 8350i curve (It contains a MicroSD card) it is not detected. Is their a solution for that as well?
[01:30] <gohdan> rsharma: use a card reader
[01:31] <brown_fern> rsharma: It may very well fully support Linux, but that, I would guess, would be in mass storage mode.
[01:31] <IdleOne> rsharma: there is a setting in BB change it to USB STORAGE or something similar to that
[01:31] <robin0800> rsharma, depending on the model the fuze is supported by rockbox.org ......O/T
[01:31] <SolarBoom> how i can use vmware tools to adjust my screee size?
[01:31] <gohdan> +1 karma robin0800
[01:32] <brown_fern> rsharma: wikipedia.org has a great page on all this if you'd want to read about it, one minute... I'll find it for you.
[01:32] <tapple> how do I change the automount options for fat filesystems? my external disk automounted with the showexec option, and so I can't run linux binaries stored there
[01:32] <SolarBoom> how i can use vmware tools to adjust my screee size?
[01:32] <SolarBoom> how i can use vmware tools to adjust my screee size?
[01:33] <brown_fern> rsharma: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_mass-storage_device_class
[01:38] <brown_fern> rsharma: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol
[01:38] <ls3> I backed up evolution and restored on a fresh natty install. Now it crashes everytime I click on an email. Any suggestions?
[01:41] <thewanderer1s> hi, fellow Ubuntu users. has anyone managed to run Intel graphics on 2.6.39?
[01:41] <BigMac> i just installed ubuntu 11.04, but near the end of the installation i got the message "unable to install bootloader" so i chose to proceed without installing the bootloader, and when the install process was finished, i was prompted to reboot, only to find that i got booted into windows, how do i solve this?
[01:42] <nimbiotics> I recently 'upgraded' to 11.04 on my laptop and it totally sucks now. I thought it could be caused by unity so I uninstalled it, but the behavior is the same; puter is v.e.r.y. slow, and many programs are unresponsive or just make the puter to freeze. My question is; if I installed from scratch, would I get better behavior? or is it really worth upgradind or should I just forget about 11.04...
[01:42] <nimbiotics> ...and go back to previous version? TIA!
[01:42] <FloodBot1> nimbiotics: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <aeon-ltd> nimbiotics: no unless the install seriously messed up, reinstalling the same from scratch will get pretty much the same result
[01:44] <FrankDrebin68> nimbiotics: If you upgraded and it introduced problems, it's possible that a reinstall of the *new* version will fix it.
[01:46] <nimbiotics> FrankDrebin68: I did have troubles with samba
[01:46] <nimbiotics> FrankDrebin68: but im not even using it, for now
[01:48] <FrankDrebin68> nimbiotics: Installing a lot increases your chance of causing problem. Reinstalling is giving up. If you're motivated enough, I think you could solve the problem.
[01:48] <FrankDrebin68> I know that's not very specific, but sometimes I give up and I just reinstall
[01:48] <gohdan> aeon-ltd: thats not necessarily true. sometimes config files from older installatons have a way of not being upgrading and sometimes will bork parts of the system
[01:49]  * gohdan s/upgrading/upgraded
[01:50] <PProvost> Hey folks, got a question
[01:50] <PProvost> When I login my Ubuntu tells me "88 packages can be updated, 59 are security updates"
[01:50] <PProvost> But when I do apt-get update and upgrade, it tells me 0 and 0
[01:50] <gohdan> FrankDrebin68: a plus side to not giving up is that you learn a lot about the system in the process
[01:50] <nimbiotics> FrankDrebin68: is not just a motivation issue; I dont know much (if any) about ubuntu or linux for that matter, but I do have a lot of work donw on my laptop and whole lot more to do; I wish I had time to better understand a lot of how it works, belive me; I just cantt
[01:51] <PProvost> Wondering if my package lists are out of date or something?
[01:51] <nimbiotics> FrankDrebin68: guess i'll just start with a clean install
[01:51] <nimbiotics> whats  good backup software for ubuntu?
[01:52] <gohdan> nimbiotics: if you have a seperate home folder 'tar' works pretty good. otherwise...
[01:52] <FrankDrebin68> I don't know. I just manually backup to a NAS.
[01:52] <gohdan> !backups | nimbiotics
[01:52] <thewanderer1s> anyone with working Intel graphics on 2.6.39?
[01:53] <lapaga> it does not really matter because both are working fine but any idea why winxp and xubuntu would show different ip's?
[01:53] <nimbiotics> gohdan: THX
[01:53] <lapaga> that would be my ip
[01:54] <nimbiotics> Is it possible to have a printout of the applications in the main panel?
[01:54] <FrankDrebin68> lapaga: I don't understand. Are you running a dual boot?
[01:54] <gohdan> nimbiotics: i can not vouch for any of the tools listed in that entry though. backing up a compressed tar archive to a separate always worked fine for me
[01:54] <cypha> I have a server running at the CL, but I want to return to the CL prompt without exiting the server, how can I do this?
[01:54] <lapaga> FrankDrebin68,  for now am running xubuntu as wubi
[01:55] <nimbiotics> gohdan: thx, will do some research anyways
[01:56]  * gohdan /separate/separate partition 
[01:56] <FrankDrebin68> lapaga: Forgive me, but when you install with wubi, does it install a dual boot or is it virtualization?
[01:56] <lapaga> FrankDrebin68, it is a real install on a virtual disk as far as I know (not positive though)
[01:57] <rypervenche> FrankDrebin68: It is virtualized.
[01:57] <FrankDrebin68> rypervenche: Thanks
[01:58] <FrankDrebin68> lapaga: I guess without getting too into it, there's a half dozen reasons why the two would have different ips, it's nothing to worry about
[01:58] <rypervenche> FrankDrebin68: It will work, but you may run into some problems. It is best to run it as a dual boot.
[01:59] <FrankDrebin68> rypervenche: Okay. I am old-school, getting back into it :) Have to learn some new stuff.
[01:59] <lapaga> FrankDrebin68, not worried just curious...my ip comes from my cable company and rarely changes in windows just curious as to why it is not the same in xubuntu...like I said it is not important just curious
[02:00] <flametai1> Thank you brown_fern
[02:00] <FrankDrebin68> lapaga: Are you getting two different external ip addresses or are you behind a router?
[02:01] <cypha> I have a server running in the console, and I don't want to have to start a new console session. How can I get back to the command prompt without stopping the server?
[02:01] <lapaga> FrankDrebin68, it is an external ip - I have no router...just a nic to a cable modem and then to the cable company
[02:01] <rbCanada> Anyone know how to log chats to a file from ircd?
[02:02] <Corey> rbCanada: Which ircd?
[02:02] <FrankDrebin68> lapaga: If the two installs use the same nic, I have no idea why you could get a different dhcp lease.
[02:02] <thedrewsk> lapaga: is it always the same in windows and always the same in ubuntu?
[02:02] <rbCanada> Corey, ircd-hybrid
[02:03] <Leif> hello, can someone tell me how to logout using keyboard only?
[02:03] <brown_fern> flametai1: You're welcome! :)
[02:03] <Leif> (my screen has gone blank)
[02:03] <Leif> I'm using 11.04
[02:03] <thedoctor> Can someone help me establish a wifi connection on a Lenovo Ideapad S10-2?
[02:03] <winut> ctrl alt f1?
[02:04] <tram> thedoctor, are you sure you have a working wlan?
[02:04] <winut> then sudo su and reboot
[02:04] <Leif> yes it worked, ty
[02:04] <lapaga> thedrewsk, if running from a live cd it always changes in ubuntu and with a wubi install it stays (at least for a couple days) the same but in windows it has been the same for several months
[02:04] <winut> cool
[02:05] <Leif> I've got an ATI card
[02:05] <Leif> maybe that's why it went black
[02:05] <Leif> I could see the mouse pointer while in the unity search menu though
[02:05] <Leif> (by pressing atl-f2)
[02:05] <Leif> it went black after I quit xbmc
[02:06] <Leif> can I check some log to find out more?
[02:06] <Leif> I mena what log could I check to find out more? :)
[02:06] <robin0800> Leif, don't think you can ctrl+alt+delete lets you reboot but if you enable Ctl+alt+backspace that kills the X server and gets you back to the log in screen
[02:06] <FrankDrebin68> lapaga: Do you have one NIC or multiple?
[02:06] <winut> thx
[02:06] <lapaga> FrankDrebin68, just one
[02:06] <Leif> roasted winuts tip already worked
[02:07] <Leif> oops robin0800 *
[02:07] <rbCanada> Any ideas on how to log chats to a file from ircd-hybrid?
[02:07] <thedrewsk> lapaga: seems very weird to me. Are the address very close to the same, or are they very different?
[02:08] <tram> is it normal to never get a response on channels?
[02:08] <lapaga> thedrewsk, one is a 76.171.* and the other is a 76.168.*
[02:08] <flametai1> Is there anyway to add to a partitions size while being mounted? I have G-Parted and a 80GB HDD when I installed Ubuntu 10.10 I split it in half and now I want to add the 40GB's back
[02:09] <flametai1> And I have no Ubuntu Live CD now =|
[02:09] <donkeyinspace> hello, im trying ubuntu live from an usb pen. anyone know what to do to get permission to other partitions on the same pen_
[02:09] <thedrewsk> tram: did you ask a question?
[02:09] <FrankDrebin68> lapaga: Yeah, it's strange. Either the DHCP server is messing with you, or maybe on your old windows install you manually set an ip address and your ubuntu is on automatic.
[02:10] <thedrewsk> donkeyinspace: do they show up in gparted?
[02:10] <tram> thedrewsk, yeah. it just seems impossible to get ahold of anyone.
[02:10] <thedrewsk> tram: what was your question
[02:10] <donkeyinspace> thedrewsk, yes
[02:10] <FrankDrebin68> lapaga: Typically, the dhcp server picks up o your hardware and gives you an IP. With cable, this will typically not change, and if it changes, it will be once and it will be permanent (because the company moved ip blocks or restarted their dhcp server or something)
[02:11] <lapaga> FrankDrebin68, yes i agree it is strange...only think in windows is ip assigned by dhcp
[02:11] <tram> i just wanted to ask simply if i was in the right channel for my question first of all.
[02:11] <thedrewsk> donkeyinspace: are you able to mount the partitions at all?
[02:11] <thedrewsk> tram: you should be, this is general support
[02:12] <tram> that's why i ended up back here. to make see if there was some reason i never got anyone.
[02:12] <lapaga> FrankDrebin68, as far as I know the cable company assigns ip's by the mac address so that makes it even more strange...like I said was just curious
[02:12] <donkeyinspace> thedrewsk, yes it is mounted right know
[02:12] <FrankDrebin68> tram: It's poor etiquette to ask to ask a question. Please just ask.
[02:13] <FrankDrebin68> lapaga: Right. Based upon your description, I don't know why it would behave that way.
[02:13] <brown_fern> BigMac: Did you get any help? I always just install Grub with the OS and have never had to install it on its own. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GRUB#Installation This wiki page talks about the installation of Grub on its own, though, only in brief.
[02:13] <thedrewsk> donkeyinspace: are you just trying to get to the permissions list?
[02:13] <tram> thedrewsk, is there a channel for noobie/intro device hacking/
[02:13] <tram> FrankDrebin68, thank you and i apologize.
[02:13] <thedrewsk> tram: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[02:13] <donkeyinspace> thedrewsk, sorry dont know what s the permission list
[02:13] <BigMac> brown_fern: no help yet, i was under the impression that grub would install automatically aswell
[02:14] <lapaga> FrankDrebin68, if I just use the livecd my ip changes every time I boot so to me at least makes no sense
[02:14] <tram> thedrewsk, thanks
[02:14] <thedrewsk> donkeyinspace: you asked how to get permission to other partitions on the USB device you're using
[02:14] <Bstarek> hello everybody
[02:14] <flametai1> So no one knows? =|
[02:14] <donkeyinspace> thedrewsk, yes
[02:14] <tjiggi_fo> !alis | tram, check out alis
[02:15] <Leif> ati is awesome, second crash in 1 hour ^^
[02:15] <Leif> amd I mean (but well they are ati now)
[02:15] <FrankDrebin68> tram: No problem. Ubuntu is one of the nicest communities around. Feel free to ask if it's an ubuntu question
[02:15] <Leif> arrg I guess I'm too tired
[02:15] <FrankDrebin68> lapaga: How are you viewing your ip address?
[02:15] <Leif> :(
[02:15] <thedrewsk> flametai1: i don't believe it is possible to combine a partition with a mounted partition
[02:15] <rinkukokiri> BigMac, sometimes (like in my case) grub installation defaults to the sd-card and I have to manually choose /sda
[02:16] <tram> FrankDrebin68, is it typical for users to so short and rude? lol
[02:16] <lapaga> FrankDrebin68, ifconfig
[02:16] <donkeyinspace> thedrewsk, has it something to do with the mount po_int
[02:16] <Bstarek> i have downloaded a program that used gems version 1.8, but the problem is that i have updated my gems to the last version 1.9.x, is there a way i can use the previous gem version that is 1.8??
[02:16] <brown_fern> BigMac: I don't even remember what the wording of the option to install Grub is, but I would think that it is the default choice. As I'm sure you know, a boot loader of some kind has to be on your system.
[02:17] <robin0800> flametai1, get an ultimate boot cd that has gparted on it but why not just get another live cd?
[02:17] <Bstarek> i was talking about ruby gems...
[02:17] <Bstarek> anybody knows about this? :)
[02:17] <brown_fern> BigMac: No version of Microsoft Windows will see that you've installed Linux along side of it and then provide a menu to aid you in booting into that Linux distro.
[02:18] <thedrewsk> donkeyinspace: PM ok?
[02:18] <rinkukokiri> Bstarek, you might wanna try #ruby
[02:18] <tram> Bstarek, i would say the best way is to uninstall and then reinstall the proper version.
[02:18] <Saik> hey guys, got a little issue with wine, but the problem seems ot be centered around xubuntu seeing the file as "dangerous" how do I fix this?
[02:18] <Bstarek> tram, could u help with that a little bit please?
[02:19] <donkeyinspace> thedrewsk, PM?
[02:19] <tram> Bstarek, which os?
[02:19] <cypha> I have a server running in the console, and I don't want to have to start a new console session. How can I get back to the command prompt without stopping the server?
[02:19] <Bstarek> rinkukokiri, ill try that after this channel :)
[02:19] <rinkukokiri> Saik,  is it complaining about "not marked as executable" ?
[02:19] <rinkukokiri> Bstarek, kk :D
[02:19] <Bstarek> tram, ubuntu 10.10
[02:19] <Azelphur> Saik: chmod +x the file
[02:19] <tyler_d> lol
[02:19] <FrankDrebin68> lapaga: *shrug* dunno. Dynamic addresses are dynamic.
[02:19] <Saik> The file '/media/cdrom0/installer.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[02:19] <Azelphur> (02:19:27) Azelphur: Saik: chmod +x the file
[02:19] <tyler_d> wine thing?
[02:20] <tyler_d> `chmod +x /media/cdrom0/installer.exe`
[02:20] <Saik> Azelphur, will it work on a CD exe?
[02:20] <tyler_d> ooh.... prolly not
[02:20] <Azelphur> Saik: maybe, might not do since it's not writable :p
[02:20] <tyler_d> wine thing right?
[02:20] <Leif> hmm can I get back into x after pressing ctrl-alt-f1?
[02:20] <eiriksvin> how do I set my xchat to join a channel and autoop myself?
[02:20] <Azelphur> Saik: you can always copy the contents of the CD over and run it off the HD
[02:21] <lapaga> FrankDrebin68, well thanks for the time - eventually maybe I can figure out why (not that it matters).
[02:21] <Saik> tyler_d, yes but I think it's due to xubuntu not trusting it
[02:21] <eiriksvin> theres no aop:(
[02:21] <tram> Bstarek, should be something along the lines of 'sudo apt-get uninstall rubygems1.8xxx'
[02:21] <tyler_d> Leif: ctrl-alt-f7 I believe is the default run level
[02:21] <Saik> Azelphur, not the way this CD is set up
[02:21] <wided> cdwsxc
[02:21] <tyler_d> Saiyou need to install using the wine util...
[02:21] <tram> Bstarek, try googling the specifics or come back
[02:21] <rinkukokiri> Saik, move the file to your pc, then right click > properties > permissions tab  check the box "allow executing file as program"
[02:21] <Saik> Azelphur, chmod: changing permissions of `/media/cdrom0/installer.exe': Read-only file system
[02:21] <Saik>   <work?
[02:22] <Bstarek> tram, alright, ill try that
[02:22] <Azelphur> haha, that's not gonna work, yes you need to copy the contents of the CD
[02:22] <tyler_d> rinkukokiri: that will not work on the basis that the exe prolly references static locations on teh cd
[02:22] <rinkukokiri> tyler_d, he could copy the whole cd off to a folder on his pc then
[02:22] <Leif> aaah, so that's how it works
[02:22] <Leif> awesome =)
[02:22] <Azelphur> Saik: or maybe try wine D:\installer.exe
[02:22] <rinkukokiri> saik ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6
[02:22] <Leif> ty
[02:22] <tyler_d> sorry, realize I'm late but what are we installing here?
[02:22] <Saik> Azelphur, that means I have to do 3 discs of that :(
[02:22] <tyler_d> ut?
[02:23] <tram> Bstarek, sorry that would ruby1.9xxx since you want 1.8xxx
[02:23] <rinkukokiri> Azelphur, if it's not executable, wine won't run it either..
[02:23] <FrankDrebin68> lapaga, np
[02:23] <Azelphur> rinkukokiri: really? I thought it would
[02:23] <Saik> xxxguardianangelxxx@xxxguardianangelxxx-desktop:~$ wine E:\installer.exe
[02:23] <Saik> wine: cannot find L"E:\\installer.exe"
[02:23] <Azelphur> Saik: I said D:
[02:23] <Chris> Could someone point me to something explaining using nvidia's drivers on 11.04? I've referred to http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/how-to-install-nvidia-25635-display.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but they seem to refer to 10.10 and earlier and I cannot get it to work on 11.04 (failure to load nvidia kernel module) uname -r is  2.6.38-8-generic-pae
[02:23] <Saik> xxxguardianangelxxx@xxxguardianangelxxx-desktop:~$ wine D:\installer.exe
[02:23] <Saik> wine: cannot find 'D:installer.exe'
[02:24] <Azelphur> Saik wine /media/cdrom0/installer.exe
[02:24] <tram> Bstarek, also found out it is 'apt-get remove' not 'uninstall'
[02:24] <Saik> xxxguardianangelxxx@xxxguardianangelxxx-desktop:~$ wine /media/cdrom0/installer.exe
[02:24] <Saik> wine: cannot find L"E:\\installer.exe"
[02:24] <laxin1122> im looking for a graphics card that can support 3 monitors that isnt much more than $200. Anyone have any ideas?
[02:24] <rinkukokiri> laxin1122, #hardware might have the answer
[02:24] <Azelphur> Saik: ask in #winehq
[02:25] <tyler_d> laxin1122: nvidia something...
[02:25] <laxin1122> thanks
[02:25] <tyler_d> :)
[02:25] <_r> Saik: Wine uses a different format, like "wine e:\\folder\ name\\file.exe"
[02:25] <Bstarek> tram, got it ;)
[02:25] <rbCanada> Anyone know how to log chats to a file from ircd?
[02:25] <rbCanada> sorry ircd-hybrid
[02:26] <Saik> _r: xxxguardianangelxxx@xxxguardianangelxxx-desktop:~$ wine E:\installer.exe
[02:26] <Saik> wine: cannot find L"E:\\installer.exe"
[02:26] <RevSpecies116> setup.exe
[02:26] <RevSpecies116> install.exe
[02:26] <laxin1122> how do i get an invite to #hardware?
[02:27] <tyler_d> rbCanada: sorry don't know that...  use pidgin?
[02:27] <Saik> RevSpecies116,
[02:27] <Saik> xxxguardianangelxxx@xxxguardianangelxxx-desktop:~$ ls /media/cdrom0/
[02:27] <Saik> autorun.inf  directx  disc.ico  installer.exe  installer tome.mpq
[02:27] <RevSpecies116> do you have the right filename?
[02:27] <rinkukokiri> laxin1122, umm type /join #hardware
[02:27] <xangua> !register | laxin1122
[02:27] <_r> Saik: You're not typing the command line option correctly. For proper format "man wine" or ask in #winehq
[02:27] <rbCanada> tyler_d, yeah I would but I'd much rather log it on the actual server that I control. hmm...
[02:28] <brown_fern> BigMac: I found some links on this procedure, but I've never done it myself. They should at least be worth reading for their relevance. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB2       http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20Bash%20Commands.html#GRUB_to_a_Partition
[02:28] <tyler_d> rbCanada: so why don't you just log it from teh back-end?
[02:28] <rinkukokiri> lol Saik is this wow?
[02:28] <Saik> _r: that is the command I have used on every program I install via wine so far and they all work save this onbe
[02:28] <RevSpecies116> Saik: try going to the directory in terminal proper
[02:28] <rbCanada> tyler_d, that is why I'm trying to do :) or am I misunderstanding you?
[02:28] <sinistrad> rinkukokiri, looks like it
[02:28] <Saik> rinkukokiri, Diablo 2
[02:28] <rinkukokiri> :D
[02:28] <_r> Saik: Then I'm wrong. "man wine" or ask in #winehq
[02:28] <Saik> _r: I did
[02:28] <tyler_d> rbCanada: does it not have logging enabled already on the server?
[02:29] <Saik> er.. rather "am"
[02:29] <RevSpecies116> cd /media     cd/cdrom0
[02:29] <rbCanada> tyler_d, that is what I'm trying to setup or figure out
[02:29] <lapaga> rbCanada, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1536613&highlight=log+chats+ircd doubt this will help though
[02:29] <RevSpecies116> cd /media     cd /cdrom0
[02:29] <sinistrad> Saik, cd /media/cdrom0
[02:29] <tyler_d> rbCanada: assuming its your server it should have logging somewhere... ie. /var/log/some-log-file
[02:29] <rinkukokiri> Saik, I would say, copy the cd/dvd off to a writeable source, then chmod +x installer.exe, then run it with wine
[02:29] <sinistrad> Saik, then try wine ./installer.exe
[02:29] <tyler_d> rbCanada: might want to do an lsof on the process and see what its writing to
[02:29] <RevSpecies116> then run installer.exe directly while you are in the folder [in terminal]
[02:29] <Saik> xxxguardianangelxxx@xxxguardianangelxxx-desktop:~$ cd /media/cdrom0/
[02:29] <Saik> xxxguardianangelxxx@xxxguardianangelxxx-desktop:/media/cdrom0$ wine installer.exe
[02:29] <Saik> wine: cannot find L"E:\\installer.exe"
[02:30] <Saik> xxxguardianangelxxx@xxxguardianangelxxx-desktop:/media/cdrom0$ wine ./installer.exe
[02:30] <Saik> wine: cannot find L"E:\\installer.exe"
[02:30] <xangua> ...
[02:30] <RevSpecies116> What is L"E?
[02:31] <sinistrad> Saik,  Yeah, you'll probably need to copy things over or look in forums, as some discs, and Blizzard is notorious for this, in making things weird to install under wine.
[02:31] <Saik> RevSpecies116, that's what it's telling me..
[02:31] <Saik> sinistrad, well, there's 3 cds to this game
[02:31] <Saik> 4 if you count the expansion
[02:31] <RevSpecies116> CD1 will be the correct starting disc
[02:32] <tyler_d> anyone tell my why my sound is so quiet on an ibm thinkpad using 11.04 386 and alsa?
[02:32] <sinistrad> Saik, I know. I installed World of Warcraft, And it was a bunch of CDs with the expansions.
[02:32] <RevSpecies116> what is in the installer directory?
[02:32] <Saik> RevSpecies116, that's what's in the drive
[02:32] <RevSpecies116> can you ls that?
[02:32] <nimbiotics> Is tehre a way to obtain a list of all insttalled applications?
[02:32] <rinkukokiri> Saik, you might wanna check out http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=74 as well
[02:33] <RevSpecies116> ls /media/cdrom0/installer
[02:33] <tyler_d> nimbiotics: from a terminal use aptitude
[02:33] <Saik> xxxguardianangelxxx@xxxguardianangelxxx-desktop:/media/cdrom0$ ls /media/cdrom0/installer
[02:33] <Saik> ls: cannot access /media/cdrom0/installer: No such file or directory
[02:33] <nimbiotics> thx
[02:33] <nimbiotics> tyler_d: thx
[02:33] <tyler_d> nimbiotics: np
[02:34] <RevSpecies116> Definitly beyond this channel, then, sorry Saik
[02:35] <rinkukokiri> saik check out that appdb page, it *should* have help on how to install/run on your system
[02:36] <nimbiotics> 'd really like to get is a printout of whatever is under 'Applications' in the main panel. is that possible? TIA!
[02:36] <Saik> rinkukokiri, it's these new damn discs.. the old one works fine :@
[02:36] <tyler_d> alsa soundcards any takers to help out?
[02:37] <rinkukokiri> lol..   then **disregard this line if you support DRM**  copy those disks off to your hdd and the problem *should* be fixed
[02:39] <sinistrad> Saik, also check out your winecfg to make sure your drives are referenced properly. It looks odd with the        L"E:\\installer.exe". It could also be Blizzard referencing the drive oddly from within the exe, throwing a kink in there. Copying the discs off to a directory should work. That's what I had to do for WoW.
[02:40] <rinkukokiri> sinistrad, i think that's just an output error, as I searched that on google and returned results that were corrected without addressing the L"E:  issue
[02:41] <sinistrad> rinkukokiri, cool
[02:42] <Saik> sinistrad, I know the old discs work, perhaps I'll just grb the old ones and use the new key
[02:42] <sinistrad> Saik, Whatever works =)
[02:43] <jon8> how can i do a directory listing, from command line, and only display files/directories that are owned by a specific user or group..
[02:43] <Saik> sinistrad, I guess I'm going to havce to do that
[02:44] <rinkukokiri> jon8,     ls -al | grep <user or group name>
[02:44] <brown_fern> nimbiotics: From the command line, "apt-cache showpkg gnome" shows the package information for the gnome package, but I don't think that that is what you're looking for, is it?
[02:44] <Thirtysixway> So I'm having an issue with Ubuntu.  Recently it keeps randomly 'crashing', gnome will go away and show command line and then bring me back to the gnome login screen. any ideas?
[02:44] <jeremy_c> I just upgraded my remote server that I have no console support to. At the end of the upgrade it said "Upgrade complete but some errors occurred." This is 8.04 -> 10.04. I do not have the ability to scroll back and see the errors. What now?
[02:45] <jeremy_c> hm, I mean no console access to. i.e. ssh only.
[02:45] <nimbiotics> brown_fern: no, thats not it, but thx
[02:45] <Thirtysixway> jeremy_c: try #ubuntu-server ?
[02:45] <jeremy_c> Thirtysixway: thanks.
[02:45] <jon8> rinkukokiri well i thought of that.. but, what if a filename is called "jon8" .. and i do, ls -la|grep jon8 -- but the filename, "jon8" isn't actually owned by jon8, would be a false positive.
[02:47] <qin> jon8: find have -user switch
[02:48] <DBoot> Does this channel help with dual booting by chance?
[02:48] <rinkukokiri> lol that's right... find /path/to/look -user <user>
[02:48] <rinkukokiri> !dualboot
[02:48] <DBoot> Actually it's more of a partition problem
[02:48] <DBoot> with gparted
[02:49] <brown_fern> DBoot: If you ask your question I'm sure someone will try to help you.
[02:50] <Chris> I asked a question about 25 minutes ago with no response. Is it rude to repeat it? Should I just wait longer, or ask again tomorrow, or...?
[02:50] <jon8> qin thats a much better solution
[02:50] <rinkukokiri> Chris, 25 mins ago?? wow you ARE Patient.... ask again man, ask again
[02:50] <Chris> Could someone point me to something explaining using nvidia's drivers on 11.04? I've referred to http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/how-to-install-nvidia-25635-display.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but they seem to refer to 10.10 and earlier and I cannot get it to work on 11.04 (failure to load nvidia kernel module) uname -r is  2.6.38-8-generic-pae
[02:51] <qin> jon8: with ls, you need awk (or sed) to make it work.
[02:51] <DBoot> Alright, so I currently have 4 different partitions on my HDD. One is a system partition, one is an unallocated partition with 450gb, one is a recovery partition, and one is a HP_tool partition
[02:51] <jon8> nah.. ill use find :)
[02:51] <Saik> sinistrad, I noticed something. the file is "installer tome.mpq"
[02:51] <jon8> much better that way
[02:51] <Saik> it has a space in it. and we all know how linux likes spaces..
[02:51] <rinkukokiri> Chris, exactly what problem are you having using nvidia's drivers?
[02:51] <tram> Chris, i have the same prob with etiquette
[02:52] <rinkukokiri> Chris, srry didn't read whole problem before i started typin :d
[02:52] <DBoot> I am trying to split the 450gb partition into two 50gb partitions to install both ubuntu and windows 7 on each, and with the remaining space I would like to format it to NTFS so that I may store media files on it
[02:52] <tram> anyone know a channel for device mods?
[02:52] <sinistrad> Saik, That doesn't sound right. Did it install?
[02:52] <__yhvh__> http://askubuntu.com/questions/47316/how-can-i-change-the-background-color-of-skype-and-certain-other-applets
[02:52] <eekTheCat> Should I care that apt-get update is spewing errors? http://pastebin.com/Xj9Fz3xR
[02:52] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i make my comp play a dvd?
[02:52] <eekTheCat> Are others recieving similar errors from apt-get?
[02:52] <Saik> sinistrad, nope. it won't. it refuses..
[02:53] <tjiggi_fo> !alis > tram, check out alis
[02:53] <tram> eekTheCat, how often do you update?
[02:53] <Saik> sinistrad, however, if I run the exe through GUI it tells me it's blocked
[02:53] <DBoot> I am able to split the 450gb partition into three unformatted partitions, but when I try and put and format the storage partition to NTFS it says you may only have 4 primary partitions on your hdd. So now I am stuck
[02:53] <eekTheCat> tram, not often recently, haven't had a regular internet connection
[02:53] <Saik> sinistrad, is there anyway to "unblock" it?
[02:53] <DBoot> Anyone have any advice on what to do?
[02:53] <tram> eekTheCat, is it good now?
[02:53] <quant> DBoot: you may only have 4 primary partitions
[02:53] <bonhoffer> i can't ssh to my ubuntu server now -- any options
[02:54] <perscitus> What would cause out of range error from monitor and ati driver?
[02:54] <bonhoffer> ssh foo@server just times out
[02:54] <eekTheCat> tram, every few days at best. no it's not good right now. repeatedly running the command keeps resulting in what seems to be the same output
[02:54] <rinkukokiri> Saik, the problem is it's not marked as executable... you need to chmod +x installer.exe
[02:54] <rinkukokiri> saik that's why it needs to be on a writeable medium
[02:54] <Saik> rinkukokiri, any way to psudo do that?
[02:54] <sinistrad> Saik, interesting, maybe the executable bit isn't set when you try to launch from gui, but then again it shouldn't launch an exe from the gui without already knowing that wine is handling those files.
[02:54] <rinkukokiri> Saik,  not on a dvd/cd rom
[02:54] <sinistrad> rinkukokiri, beat me to it =)
[02:54] <stevecam> when i log in i keep on getting this message telling me that /dev/sdb4 will be checked on next boot, but there is no /dev/sdb4 on my system
[02:54] <Saik> rinkukokiri, hence I said "psudo"
[02:54] <DBoot> Quant: Would I be able to format the 450gb using extended partitions and run the operating systems using those?
[02:54] <nate> can anyone tell me what "largefile" and "largefile4" do with ext4? I'm not finding much on google about it
[02:55] <perscitus> What would cause out of range error from monitor and ati driver?
[02:55] <tram> eekTheCat, if you losr a connection mid update you can get bad packages. it usually doesn't end up with problems tho
[02:55] <stevecam> it's not really a problem, but the message is a bit distracting, how can i get rid of it?
[02:55] <rinkukokiri> Saik, you can try making a link on your desktop?
[02:55] <rinkukokiri> Saik, then mark /that/ as executable?
[02:55] <Saik> rinkukokiri, worth a shot
[02:55] <rinkukokiri> MAYBE?
[02:55] <eekTheCat> tram, can i clean the cached package lists or something?
[02:55] <Guest71513> and it is free
[02:55] <eekTheCat> tram, maybe I should use a different mirror?
[02:56] <tram> eekTheCat, which distro?
[02:56] <eekTheCat> natty
[02:56] <rinkukokiri> Chris, which driver have you tried installing?
[02:56] <tram> eekTheCat, can you update to 11.04?
[02:56] <[THC]AcidRain> anyone know why my dvd drive wont play dvds?
[02:56] <[THC]AcidRain> vlc and media player both fail to play
[02:56] <perscitus> What would cause out of range error from monitor and ati driver?
[02:56] <MGMT> did you install dvd capabilities
[02:56] <tram> acidrain, hardware or software?
[02:57] <[THC]AcidRain> i believe its software
[02:57] <[THC]AcidRain> it worked when i had windows
[02:57] <eekTheCat> tram, i thought 11.04 was natty
[02:57] <[THC]AcidRain> whats the dvd packages?
[02:57] <MGMT> its in the repositories
[02:57] <sinistrad> [THC]AcidRain, it might be non-free codecs needing to be installed.
[02:57] <[THC]AcidRain> i figured those would be downloaded with VLC though rly...
[02:57] <bobcatgoldwin> i have a fairly obscure program i'd like to compile with the debug option on but i'm pretty ignorant to the makefile process, is there a way to get make to compile with the debug symbols without having to manually edit it? -d looks like a verbose mode for make instead of it being in the program itself
[02:57] <tram> eekTheCat, my bad, you're right.
[02:58] <sinistrad> !codecs
[02:58] <Saik> rinkukokiri, opens in mousepad :@
[02:58] <tram> in that case yes, try another mirror if your connection can handle it.
[02:58] <quant> DBoot: you can make non-primary partitions and boot from that, yes
[02:58] <perscitus> What would cause out of range error from monitor and ati driver?
[02:58] <nimbiotics> Is tehere a way to retrieve the contents of a panel?
[02:59] <brown_fern> DBoot: read this please. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_partition#PC_partition_types
[02:59] <[THC]AcidRain> ok what linux dvd software can i use to rip dvds? ill just rip it then watch it
[02:59] <bonhoffer> i get Connection closed by 111.11.111.11
[02:59] <bonhoffer> and ssh doesn't connect
[02:59] <RevSpecies116> [THC]AcidRain: That is a little shaky ground
[02:59] <nimbiotics> I need to get the contents of the MenuBar
[03:00] <bonhoffer> it is a remote server that is still serving web pages
[03:00] <[THC]AcidRain> i mean i got restricted extras and everything installed
[03:00] <[THC]AcidRain> im looking at it in the synaptic package manager now
[03:00] <[THC]AcidRain> this is very weird.
[03:00] <rinkukokiri> Saik, try right click on desktop > create launcher  and make one from that?
[03:00] <Saik> rinkukokiri, yep
[03:00] <RevSpecies116> [THC]AcidRain: You have to perform a few extra steps to get DVD's working on Ubuntu
[03:01] <bonhoffer> any insight why i can't ssh to my server now?
[03:01] <Saik> rinkukokiri,  but we give up, going back to my hose and swapping discs and keys lol
[03:01] <RevSpecies116> [THC]AcidRain: Just getting the packages from the repo's is not enough
[03:01] <perscitus> What would cause out of range error from monitor and ati driver?
[03:01] <rinkukokiri> lol, kk guud luck
[03:01] <Saik> rinkukokiri, well.. my PC is windows 7 :P
[03:01] <MGMT> [THC]AcidRain did you install the fluendo dvd play in the ubuntu software center
[03:01] <perscitus> i have asked half a dozen times and no one bothers trying. where has the nice support gone too
[03:01] <bigclean> np: 周传雄 - 黄昏
[03:02] <rinkukokiri> perscitus, a resolution that doesnt match your display maximum/ minimum?
[03:02] <Saik> rinkukokiri, and I know the old discs work on linux
[03:02] <brown_fern> DBoot: I always install Microsoft Windows 7 first, before any other operating system gets installed. Windows 7 is more particular about where it can be in a partitioning scheme and duel-booters need the boot loader of a Linux OS to provide a boot menu that will list all OSes on the system at launch.
[03:02] <perscitus> rinkukokiri,  thats not nice. sarcasam isnt needed.
[03:02] <rinkukokiri> perscitus, it wasn't sarcasm...
[03:02] <etfb> How do I see the history of what I've installed/updated with apt-get, Update Manager and various other tools?  Google says it's in Synaptic - File|History, but that's wrong.
[03:03] <rinkukokiri> perscitus, it was an answer to a question, if you took it as sarcasm I am sorry, but you were mistaken
[03:03] <RevSpecies116> perscitus: Pardon me?
[03:03] <quant> etfb: it's in the software center
[03:03] <perscitus> rinkukokiri,  i know what out of range means but ubuntu starts up like that
[03:03] <RevSpecies116> perscitus: That is NOT what your question said, though...
[03:03] <eekTheCat> tram, switching to the main us server seems to have fixed it. thanks.
[03:03] <perscitus> RevSpecies116,  yes it is
[03:03] <bonhoffer> any thoughts on how to restore ssh access
[03:03] <DBoot> quant: I was reading though that Windows has problems running on an extended partition? Is that true?
[03:04] <eekTheCat> i thought I was doing ubuntu a favor by using one of the mirrors
[03:04] <RevSpecies116> perscitus: Any more information about your question you can fill us in on...
[03:04] <etfb> quant: Ah! So is it possible to export it to a file?  Stuff that can't be viewed in Emacs isn't really stuff, as far as this old fart is concerned...
[03:04] <qin> bonhoffer: More details?
[03:04] <rinkukokiri> perscitus, no ..... What would cause out of range error from monitor and ati driver?  << that's your question.. you did not mention "ubuntu starts like that"
[03:04] <quant> DBoot: not sure about Windows, but Linux can boot from a non-primary
[03:04] <perscitus> RevSpecies116,  I cant give anymore. thats all i got
[03:04] <[THC]AcidRain> imma check on fluendo now
[03:04] <bonhoffer> qin: i was installing ruby, went back to shell, now i can't ssh with any user
[03:04] <quant> etfb: there is a file already somewhere, most probably, I just don't know where
[03:04] <RevSpecies116> Then, perscitus, that may be why you haven't had an answer to your question...
[03:04] <brown_fern> DBoot: Yes, that is my understanding, I was wanting you to see that tidbit in particular. :)
[03:04] <DBoot> Hmm, I think I may be able to work this out. Thanks alot quant. You helped me big time.
[03:04] <bonhoffer> ssh foo@server produces: Connection closed by 111.111.111
[03:05] <Chris> *sigh*
[03:05] <quant> DBoot: sure
[03:05] <rinkukokiri> Chris, which nvidia driver have you attempted to install?
[03:05] <qin> bonhoffer: nmap (is ssh on same ip what web?)
[03:05] <perscitus> RevSpecies116,  just answer the question instead of giving a lecture.
[03:06] <RevSpecies116> perscitus: What was your exact question?
[03:06] <bonhoffer> qin, it is on a server (linode) remote, i just use the public ip to connect
[03:06] <[THC]AcidRain> grrr
[03:06] <bonhoffer> qin: i think i am missing your question
[03:06] <[THC]AcidRain> it wont let me install fluendo, says conflicting packages
[03:06] <perscitus> What would cause out of range error from monitor and ati driver before arriving at gdm?
[03:06] <RevSpecies116> grub
[03:06] <brown_fern> DBoot: Yes, Linux can boot from an extended partition. That last "yes" was about Windows needing to boot from a primary partition, as far as I know.
[03:06] <perscitus> RevSpecies116,  No.
[03:06] <DBoot> Hmm, nvm. Didn't work. I was going to create a 50gb primary windows partition and then an extended partition for the other two. It doesn't allow me to do it though.
[03:07] <RevSpecies116> You have more information to give, perscitus?
[03:07] <perscitus> RevSpecies116,  Plymonth only shares purplish screen still
[03:07] <rinkukokiri> perscitus, an invalid xorg.conf
[03:07] <brown_fern> DBoot: let Windows make its own partitions.
[03:07] <quentusrex> where is the offtopic channel?
[03:07] <RevSpecies116> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:07] <rinkukokiri> !ot | quentusrex
[03:08] <qin> bonhoffer: ok, some webhosting provide ssh access on different ip, linode, you could just reboot server, or try to close sessions from panel (linode have admin panel, right?)
[03:08] <[THC]AcidRain> libdvdcss, where do i get that?
[03:08] <bonhoffer> qin: i am trying their ajax shell
[03:08] <rinkukokiri> perscitus, have you tried switching to tty1?
[03:08] <hiexpo> !libdvdcss
[03:09] <Saik> thank you guys for your help, we give up and we're going the other route. thanks for the help guys
[03:09] <brown_fern> DBoot: I wouldn't try to make an NTFS partition with Linux and then put Windows 7 in that somehow, Microsoft Windows 7 will likely want to reformat to an NTFS of its own design anyway.
[03:09] <perscitus> What would cause an 'Out of Range' error from Monitor during  startup? Purple plymonth displays but no animation and GDM doesnt show but can hear login sound
[03:10] <perscitus> RevSpecies116 and rinkukokiri  are on ignore for irritating me
[03:10] <rinkukokiri> seems we irritated him by asking questions relating to his problem
[03:10] <[THC]AcidRain> anymore ideas to get a dvd to play?
[03:10] <perscitus> What would cause an 'Out of Range' error from Monitor during  startup? Purple plymonth displays but no animation and GDM doesnt show but can hear login sound. FGLRX is in use
[03:11] <qin> perscitus: try to boot with "text" parameter instead of "splash"
[03:11] <RevSpecies116> Indeed, rinkukokiri... No patience with young folk these days
[03:11] <szal> !repeat | perscitus
[03:11] <perscitus> qin,  that might show more errors. will that
[03:11] <KM0201> [THC]AcidRain: have you installed libdvdread and libdvdcss?
[03:11] <sinistrad> perscitus, you might be able to post some logs to the paste site mentioned in the channel topic. dmesg will show what happened during boot. /etc/X11/xorg.conf will show some info on how X is configured, including your monitor specifics. I don't know how to help you, but those are places that might provide you with some details about what is happening.
[03:11] <[THC]AcidRain> i couldnt install libdvdcss from terminal
[03:11] <[THC]AcidRain> said something about no matching version
[03:12] <szal> perscitus: if your video card and monitor have (matching) digital connectors, try these instead of analog
[03:12] <qin> perscitus: Yes, and you will see if whats x problem or framebuffer or vesa
[03:12] <kannan_> hi all, i would like to add fedora 15 to my ubuntu grub2 configuration? when i run update-grub, it does not show it? can you help?
[03:12] <kannan_> i am running ubuntu 11.04 64 bit.
[03:12] <KM0201> [THC]AcidRain: did you try adding the medibuntu repo, and adding it from there?
[03:13] <etfb> [THC]AcidRain: "Something about" is the key phrase here.  What was the exact command you typed, and the exact error you got?
[03:13] <yillkid> I wanan download graphic card "gigabyte gv-n430oc-1gl", but which driver should I chose in nvidia web site ?
[03:13] <rinkukokiri> I think it's funny how he A. put us on iggy... and B. had to announce to the world that we are on iggy, like it makes any difference to me whether or not someone decides to be immature like that...lol
[03:13] <qin> kannan_: what system did you update grub from?
[03:13] <[THC]AcidRain> i havent tried medibuntu repo. could i plz have mirror
[03:13] <[THC]AcidRain> ill get you the exact error
[03:13] <skylined101> hi . need to clone a website . anyone can recommend program ?
[03:13] <[THC]AcidRain> No candidate version found for libdvdcss
[03:13] <qin> skylined101: wget or better curl
[03:13] <etfb> [THC]AcidRain: Google for Medibuntu, then follow the instructions in "Repository How-To".
[03:13] <[THC]AcidRain>  sudo aptitude install libdvdcss
[03:14] <szal> skylined101: wget can download entire websites, google it
[03:14] <rinkukokiri> Chris, are you still out there??
[03:14] <RevSpecies116> I have a feeling perscitus is not here legitimately anyway
[03:14] <Roasted> Question - I know Gnome Shell "breaks" Unity, but I can purge the GS PPA and get my Unity working again if I follow the proper steps. Right?
[03:14] <leandro220-x> Hi guys
[03:14] <qin> Roasted: In theory, yes.
[03:14] <tram> leandro220-x, yo
[03:14] <RevSpecies116> hello, leandro220-x Can we help?
[03:14] <rww> Roasted: In practise, it's a pain in the backside and I wouldn't recommend it.
[03:15] <skylined101> i need to download and translate into another language can it be done with wget + google translate :D ?
[03:15] <yillkid> I wanan download graphic card "gigabyte gv-n430oc-1gl", but which driver should I chose in nvidia web site ?
[03:15] <KM0201> [THC]AcidRain: http://medibuntu.org/repository.php   at the very top... follow the instructions to add the repository, and the GPG key (just copy paste all that ina  terminal).. then run sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[03:15] <Roasted> rww, well, I'm beginning to like gnome shell a ltitle more, but I'm skeptical on its dual screen support just yet. I want to try it out but I want to make sure I can bounce back if need be.
[03:15] <[THC]AcidRain> well in the medibuntu repo how to. i got a 404 not found :/
[03:15] <leandro220-x> Not really, just greeting it has bee a while since i had problems
[03:15] <KM0201> [THC]AcidRain: ah...
[03:15] <Roasted> rww, I found directions on purging the PPA and getting back to normal, but I just wanted to make sure that's what would happen
[03:15] <rww> Roasted: go grab a Fedora 15 LiveCD. Best way to poke at it, really.
[03:16] <szal> yillkid: since when can gfx cards be downloaded? :o
[03:16] <Roasted> rww, I've used gnome shell. but I just want to run it on my desktop, and when you're talking about propriety drivers and all that garbage, a livecd won't help that much.
[03:16] <qin> skylined101: you would want to use perl (scripting) for it, do you know html?
[03:16] <KM0201> [THC]AcidRain: i don't need medibuntu, but i just added it, and it worked just fine
[03:16] <rww> Roasted: true
[03:16] <etfb> [THC]AcidRain: At http://medibuntu.org/repository.php ?
[03:17] <Roasted> rww, maybe I'll just take the chance. After all, all of my personal stuff is on a separate raid array. Not like I'd lose anything
[03:17] <[THC]AcidRain> yeah. i swear it didnt work...
[03:17] <yillkid> szal: I don't know ... I use 10.04, but it can be detect in 10.10 .
[03:17] <[THC]AcidRain> but i found the libdvdcss2 package. and i just installed it.
[03:17] <[THC]AcidRain> im gonna see which of these 3 media player will handle it
[03:18] <szal> yillkid: lspci | grep -i vga
[03:18] <dforthman> hello, everybody
[03:18] <rinkukokiri> or lshw -C Video
[03:18] <[THC]AcidRain> nope :/ none of them will play it still
[03:19] <etfb> [THC]AcidRain: Follow these steps: 1. go to http://medibuntu.org/repository.php   2. Select the entire text in the first grey box, from "sudo wget" to "--quiet update".  3. Copy.  4. Open terminal.  5. Paste.  6. Hit Enter.  7. Type your password.  8. Hit enter.  Tell me if it gives an error message or any step fails.
[03:19] <OerHeks> [THC]AcidRain, still trying install programs for jaunty 9.04 ?
[03:19] <perscitus> qin,  text did nothing useful but turning off quiet reveal no errors but out of range start when gdm began to start.
[03:19] <[THC]AcidRain> yeah
[03:19] <[THC]AcidRain> jaunty 9.04
[03:19] <OerHeks> jaunty is EOL
[03:19] <qin> perscitus: What driver do you use?
[03:19] <RevSpecies116> JJ is not supported :)
[03:20] <rinkukokiri> perscitus, have you tried switching to tty1 to see if you can reconfigure x from there?
[03:20] <perscitus> qin fglrx
[03:20] <rinkukokiri> unless we are still on iggy
[03:20] <tram> any reason the 'grep' command will never finish running?
[03:20] <rww> tram: because you missed an argument and it's waiting for input, probably
[03:20] <qin> perscitus: Remove it, jockey-text will help.
[03:20] <rww> that's why mine usually does :(
[03:20] <etfb> tram: recursive symlinks?
[03:20] <perscitus> oss driver doesnt work in unity
[03:20] <sinistrad> [THC]AcidRain, you might try starting the media player from a console so you can see more info on what is creating playback problems.
[03:21] <rinkukokiri> !tty | perscitus, have you tried switching to tty1 to see if you can reconfigure x from there?
[03:21] <qin> perscitus: oss? You have problem with sound too?
[03:21] <tram>  etfb, what does that mean?
[03:22] <perscitus> qin  no. Open Source Software
[03:22] <tram> rww, it takes a file name, right?
[03:22] <rww> tram: and something to search for, yes
[03:23] <qin> perscitus: At this point, fgrlx seems to deliver troubles.
[03:23] <rww> grep [OPTIONS] PATTERN [FILE...]
[03:23] <etfb> tram: rww's suggestion is more likely correct.  If you type <grep "hello">, the grep program assumes you are searching the next thing you type.  If you type <grep "hello" *> it assumes you are searching the files in the current directory.  Did you do that?
[03:24] <etfb> tram: But if you typed the right thing and it is indeed searching files and not input, then you might have a symlink problem, which I can explain if needed.
[03:24] <tram> etfb, rww, ah ha! that makes sense
[03:24] <Dark_Angel> hi
[03:24] <tram> etfb, let me see if i can get it to work right quick.
[03:24] <etfb> I do it all the time.  Get in the habit of hitting Ctrl+D to end input and see if you suddenly get back to normal.  Then you say "d'oh!" and hope nobody saw you...
[03:24] <qin> Dark_Angel: Hey.
[03:25] <thejester> list
[03:25] <perscitus> qin,  when i try to start gdm via text mode, i get this error. http://i56.tinypic.com/2rxwg2d.jpg
[03:25] <_Tristan> Hi, I'm looking for a command to show a shutdown dialog
[03:25] <etfb> perscitus: sudo?
[03:26] <qin> perscitus: to srart gdm: sudo service gdm start
[03:26] <Dark_Angel> first time in irc somebody can please tell me how does it work? maybe a link with a guide
[03:26] <perscitus> brb
[03:26] <qin> perscitus: but, xinit is better choice: xinit -- :1 vt8
[03:27] <sparc> Does anyone know how PXE booting multiple architectures, would work?
[03:27] <sparc> I'm at a loss, how I can get the DHCP server to send the right 'filename' based on auth, from the client options
[03:27] <szal> Dark_Angel: that's outside the scope of this channel, there should be a host of info to be found via Google
[03:27] <sparc> or does PXE Linux handle that on its own somehow
[03:27] <tram> etfb, i finally got it.
[03:27] <etfb> Dark_Angel: I wouldn't mind one of those, and I've been here for years...
[03:27] <qin> !irc | Dark_Angel
[03:27] <sabiancrash_cgx> Temps cannot be colder than absolute 0. (-459.67F)
[03:27] <etfb> tram: What was the solution?
[03:28] <Dark_Angel>  !irc
[03:28] <sabiancrash_cgx> Temps cannot be colder than absolute 0. (-459.67F)
[03:28] <qin> Dark_Angel: Hm, you getting grip on it ;)
[03:28] <kb3gtn> do they become imaginary :-P
[03:28] <szal> ops here?  we seem to have an unsolicited bot in here
[03:28] <tram> etfb, no solution really. just entering the command the right way. lol
[03:29] <rww> szal: hi
[03:29] <etfb> tram: That's always the solution.  Defining "the right way" is the work of a lifetime...
[03:29] <rww> !irc
[03:29] <sabiancrash_cgx> Temps cannot be colder than absolute 0. (-459.67F)
[03:29] <rinkukokiri> qin   i've found this for perscitus but he has me on iggy because of some silly reason.. if you could read and relay??  http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/blfs-support/2008-July/064568.html
[03:29] <rww> sabiancrash_cgx: Turn that off.
[03:29] <tram> etfb, no kidding!
[03:30] <qin> perscitus: This is apparently usefull: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/blfs-support/2008-July/064568.html
[03:30] <perscitus> qin,  I tried to start GDM that way. Out of range.
[03:30] <perscitus> qin,  gdm service start
[03:31] <qin> perscitus: What about xinit?
[03:31] <rinkukokiri> qin ty..
[03:31] <perscitus> qin,  is there a command to get ati to reconfigure xorg
[03:31] <bonhoffer> qin: i am getting this error on startup: https://gist.github.com/1011570
[03:31] <bonhoffer> i don't want: Starting web server apache2
[03:31] <bonhoffer> wonder where that is
[03:32] <bonhoffer> wonder if it is /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[03:32] <Flannel> bonhoffer: You mean you're looking to not start apache2 at bootup?
[03:32] <etfb> Does anyone know how to get the apt/aptitude/synaptic/Update Manager/Software Center history as a text file?  I can now see it in SC, but only as a pretty little tree view.
[03:32] <Flannel> !bum | bonhoffer
[03:32] <bonhoffer> where should i look  -- i don't want apache to start ever on my server
[03:32] <bonhoffer> Flannel: i don't have graphical access
[03:33] <bonhoffer> would that still work
[03:33] <Flannel> bonhoffer: There's methods there that are not graphical, yes.
[03:33] <YankDownUnder> bonhoffer, sudo -x /etc/init.d/apache2
[03:33] <perscitus>   is there a command to get ati to reconfigure xorg
[03:33] <Flannel> YankDownUnder: That's not really the best way to go about it
[03:33] <bonhoffer> hopefully that is what the previous user used
[03:33] <YankDownUnder> bonhoffer, Sorry, it's "sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/apache2
[03:33] <bonhoffer> YankDownUnder: woudn't that just cause an error
[03:33] <bonhoffer> on boot
[03:33] <Flannel> bonhoffer: Read the factoid, it will tell you.
[03:34] <whallz> hi, i downloaded numlockx, but num lock doesn't enable after reboot, what am i missing?
[03:34] <whallz> ubuntu 11.04
[03:34] <Flannel> Oh, I was half a screen up.
[03:34] <perscitus>   is there a command to get ati to reconfigure xorg
[03:34] <qin> perscitus: sudo aticonfig
[03:35] <perscitus> via commandline
[03:36] <mkquist> anyone get an elantech touch pad to 2 finger scroll?
[03:36] <perscitus> Right now., there is a GDM ANd FGLRX conflict. GDM is basicly broken
[03:36] <szal> whallz: downloading alone won't help much ^^
[03:36] <bonhoffer> Flannel: i read that, sorry but i still can't find why apache is auto-starting at boot
[03:36] <szal> !numlock
[03:36] <bonhoffer> any other places to look
[03:36] <qin> perscitus: Also there is amd wiki: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Natty_Installation_Guide
[03:36] <YankDownUnder> bonhoffer, You could just remove apache2 via synaptic
[03:36] <bonhoffer> Flannel: i'm seeing this on boot: https://gist.github.com/1011570
[03:36] <bonhoffer> YankDownUnder: definitely will do that
[03:37] <crohakon> Can someone point me in the right direction? I just installed a third hard drive onto my server. I only have commandline via ssh. How do I format/mount the hard drive via console?
[03:37] <bonhoffer> then i need to remove whatever is telling it to start
[03:37] <qin> bonhoffer: You can also edit init scripts.
[03:37] <rinkukokiri> !fdisk | crohakon
[03:37] <bonhoffer> qin: excellent, where are they?
[03:37] <melrokz> !moonlight
[03:37] <YankDownUnder> crohakon, Use fdisk, then you can manually edit the /etc/fstab to reflect the new drive and mount point.
[03:38] <bonhoffer> YankDownUnder: apt-get uninstall apache2?
[03:38] <qin> bonhoffer: /etc/ini.d/apache2
[03:38] <bonhoffer> qin, i am suspecting an init script
[03:38] <qin> bonhoffer: /etc/init.d/apache2
[03:38] <bonhoffer> just rm -rf it from there?
[03:38] <bonhoffer> it is in there
[03:39] <Flannel> bonhoffer: No.
[03:39] <YankDownUnder> bonhoffer, That'll work (or apt-get remove apache2)
[03:39] <qin> bonhoffer: As YankDownUnder said you can chmod them, or edit
[03:39] <Flannel> qin: No.
[03:39] <rinkukokiri> bonhoffer, sudo apt-get remove packagetoremove
[03:39] <Flannel> bonhoffer: Do it correctly.
[03:39] <qin> Flannel: No, init.d?
[03:39] <Flannel> qin, YankDownUnder: please don't tell people to do silly things.
[03:40] <whallz> in ubuntu 11.04 there's no "/etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default"
[03:40] <YankDownUnder> Flannel, Right. I'll go back to supporting my clients for the day and give my advice for money instead of for free. Cheers.
[03:40] <bobcatgoldwin> so does someone know of a way to make make compile with debug symbols without manually editing the make file?
[03:40] <crohakon> YankDownUnder, and how can I be sure which drive is the new drive? Should I assume sdc or is there a way to check? I've done this without gui
[03:40] <bonhoffer> qin: so i should leave apache2 in the /etc/init.d/ just chmod it?
[03:40] <rinkukokiri> crohakon, sudo fdisk -l  (that's a lowercase L)
[03:40] <Flannel> YankDownUnder: Part of the channel's guidelines are: When helping, be helpful.  Breaking things isnt helpful.
[03:40] <bonhoffer> oh, it is gone
[03:40] <YankDownUnder> crohakon, I'll assume that Flannel knows the answer.
[03:40] <bonhoffer> after apt-get remove
[03:41] <bonhoffer> YankDownUnder: thanks
[03:41] <qin> bonhoffer: One sec, we may have internal discussion first.
[03:41] <whallz> szal in ubuntu 11.04 there's no "/etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default"
[03:41] <qin> Flannel: What stantds against editing init for apache (or chmod -x it)?
[03:41] <nate> what's the proper procedure to install grub onto a raid5 volume? using 10.04(64-bit) via CLI installer. not finding much documentation on google or ubuntuforums. mostly old stuff from 8.x and 9.x
[03:41] <nate> if it's in the GUI.. shouldn't it work
[03:42] <rinkukokiri> crohakon,    man fdisk may be something you might wanna read (q to exit)
[03:42] <Flannel> qin: Because that prohibits you from EVER starting apache the proper way.  He just wants to stop it from starting automatically on boot.
[03:44] <qin> Flannel: is "sudo update-rc.d apache2 remove" ok?
[03:46] <perscitus> qin,  didnt work  but i got a useful error from gdm
[03:46] <Flannel> qin: Yeah, removng the rc.X links manually or otherwise
[03:46] <Shortstraw8> I have a project for school that I have to watch a video for bu it says that I need to get shockwave player. I can download it but it only gives 2 options to launch it PC and MAC what are my options?
[03:46] <cjae> Ya I can finally use my 200 dollar keyboard that I bought two years ago with ubuntu? thanks if there is anyone here involved, still cant get it to be detected via bluetooth but most things work. Logitech mx5500
[03:46] <szal> !flash | Shortstraw8
[03:47] <bonhoffer> my apt cache /var/cache/apt is 305 mb , can i remove this?
[03:47] <qin> bonhoffer: sudo update-rc.d apache2 remove  <-- this command shoud prevert apache from starting at boot.
[03:47] <szal> bonhoffer: sure, if you want to lose the ability to look up package information ;)
[03:47] <qin> perscitus: What err?
[03:48] <bonhoffer> szal: ok, i'll take that as a no
[03:48] <cjae> ubuntu has come along way!!! thanks for real
[03:48] <bonhoffer> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/apache2 exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[03:48] <bonhoffer> qin: ^^
[03:48] <bonhoffer> i tried -f too !
[03:48] <footbal17> What's a good way to remove a computer ID ban from linux
[03:49] <Saik> sinistrad, well.. I got the old cises, at least they run..
[03:49] <szal> footbal17: what's a "computer ID ban"?
[03:49] <perscitus> qin, https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YzilMbuhh9pFAqxw3vWtiKj9rURc0D4AVUHXVkssN48?feat=directlink
[03:50] <sinistrad> Saik, very cool. I'm wondering what is funky with the new ones.
[03:50] <footbal17> it's a ban where my hostname, hostname suffix (wrong.com), and username and other things are auto-detected to make a single numerical userid, used for a game ban
[03:50] <ghostnik11> hi i have a smcwusb-n2 wireless usb and everytime my desktop computer comes on it picks up my home router but after like a min, it suddenly shuts off and i have no internet
[03:50] <Saik> sinistrad, "installer tome.mpq"
[03:50] <Saik> sinistrad, windows uses a special method of calling spaces, linux doesn't use it
[03:51] <bonhoffer> qin: any thoughts?
[03:51] <Flannel> qin: Apparently the new method is to modify a file, see here: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[03:51] <perscitus> qin,  any thoughts?
[03:51] <sinistrad> Saik, well, it does, but it's really odd
[03:51] <bonhoffer> on apache2 removal
[03:51] <SecJames_> \quit
[03:51] <bonhoffer> sry, qin, i see you are popular
[03:51] <Flannel> qin: but I'm not sure if apache is converted over yet (checking right now)
[03:51] <qin> bonhoffer: hm, interesting: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-manage-services-with-update-rc.d
[03:51] <Saik> sinistrad, do you have a copy of D2 with cinematics/play/install  cds?
[03:51] <footbal17> HOW DO I GET PAST A GAME BAN STRACE?
[03:51] <szal> !caps | footbal17
[03:52] <iamagoldentrout> I LOVE SHOUTING
[03:52] <bonhoffer> qin: that worked
[03:52] <perscitus> Flannel,  https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YzilMbuhh9pFAqxw3vWtiKj9rURc0D4AVUHXVkssN48?feat=directlink I get that error but monitor gives out of range error on gdm start
[03:52] <sinistrad> Saik, if you had went into that directory and started with something like     wine ./instal      and then hit Tab for completion, it might have figured it out and created the spaces accordingly.
[03:52] <qin> Flannel: It now puzzes me.
[03:52] <Flannel> qin: (apache isn't upstart enabled yet)
[03:52] <iamagoldentrout> freenode won't damn send me an email
[03:52] <szal> footbal17: if you got banned by some network, they might actually have a reason for that..  contact the ppl who banned you or get over it
[03:52] <rww> iamagoldentrout: go ask #freenode about it, then
[03:52] <sinistrad> Saik, No. I haven't played D1 or D2 in a long time. I'm more into text based muds now =)
[03:53] <iamagoldentrout> apparently they block mailinator
[03:53] <iamagoldentrout> laemz
[03:53] <Saik> sinistrad, what I mean is do you have them in your possesion?
[03:53] <qin> perscitus: can you goo.gl last link, cannot highlight it in two lines in this terminal.
[03:53] <Jon--> How do I determine which packages are installed from which repositories from my repositories? I have apt and aptitude installed
[03:53] <sinistrad> Saik, no, I don't
[03:54] <Saik> sinistrad, ok, thought I'd ask lol
[03:54] <iamagoldentrout> is there an alternate linux-based channel that doesn't force you to register like #linux?
[03:54] <sinistrad> Saik, =)
[03:54] <Shortstraw8> ubottu and szal I have the flash plugin which is why I'm lost.  thought if I downloaded it VLC would play it but cant get it to work. Could it be th web site?
[03:54] <perscitus> qin http://tinyurl.com/6h6dzsm
[03:55] <Saik> sinistrad, I will brb, we are going to reboot the PC and hpe it works lol
[03:55] <Saik> hope*
[03:55] <Saik> the play disc is not reading
[03:55] <rinkukokiri> iamagoldentrout, lol mailinator FTW
[03:55] <szal> Shortstraw8: define "cant get it to work"
[03:56] <Jon--> How do I determine which packages are installed from which repositories? ie given repo x.y.z, which packages are currently installed from x.y.z? I have apt and aptitude installed
[03:56] <perscitus> Flannel,  penny for your thoughts as well, http://tinyurl.com/6h6dzsm ,  I get that error but monitor gives out of range error on gdm start
[03:56] <rinkukokiri> iamagoldentrout, have you tried mailinator's alt domain??  suremail.info  or one of the many others?
[03:57] <perscitus> rin http://tinyurl.com/6h6dzsm
[03:57] <ptley> Just register a yahoo account over tor
[03:57] <TemplarJRC> @search "the great war"
[03:57] <perscitus> rinkukokiri, http://tinyurl.com/6h6dzsm
[03:57] <qin> perscitus: Reinstalling driver is best you can do, but test your system on open source driver.
[03:58] <perscitus> qin,  Unity doesnt work on the open source driver though
[03:58] <Shortstraw8> I am a newb. When I download the movie it only give me a PC and Mac launch option. But when I watch the movie it plays about 10 minutes of it then tells me that I new shockwave.
[03:58] <Shortstraw8> I can watch the tutorial just fine as well.
[03:58] <perscitus> qin,  how do i reinstall via cli?
[03:58] <szal> since when do downloaded movies have launch options?
[03:59] <Shortstraw8> Im also using chromium web browser.
[03:59] <Shortstraw8> if that helps
[03:59] <rewt> perscitus, that command doesn't look right
[03:59] <rewt> maybe you were going for: sudo service gdm start
[03:59] <ward1234> heres a weird one... my harddrive randomly becomes fully active while i am doing nothing how do i see what it is doing?
[04:00] <Jon--> How do I determine which packages are installed from which repositories? ie given repo x.y.z, which packages are currently installed from x.y.z? I have apt and aptitude installed
[04:00] <qin> perscitus: jockey-text to examine driver
[04:00] <perscitus> rewt,  ignore the command. look at error
[04:01] <perscitus> qin this is on 10.10
[04:01] <rewt> the unable to load file?
[04:01] <perscitus> rewt,  yes
[04:01] <perscitus>  why ]
[04:02] <maco> Jon--: i dont believe its possible to know for sure where a package came from, just what *currently enabled repository* has that same package version.  this is also done by package, not by repo, so... apt-cache policy packagename      you could probably loop through every package in `dpkg -l | grep ^ii` doing that and parsing it out to a list...
[04:02] <_Rix> hello
[04:02] <_Rix> i recently tried getting wireless to work on fedora but to no avail
[04:02] <Saik> sinistrad, play disc shows no files, any way to refresh what linux sees on the CD without rebooting/ejecting the cd?
[04:02] <_Rix> now i'm on ubuntu and wi-fi can't be enabled
[04:02] <_Rix> any help?
[04:02] <rewt> maybe that's in response to the wrong command
[04:02] <perscitus> other then that
[04:02] <qin> perscitus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver this covers removal
[04:03] <[an]droidman> _Rix: how old is your computer?
[04:03] <_Rix> 3-years
[04:03] <_Rix> [an]droidman, it worked prior to getting wi-fi fixed on fedora
[04:03] <sinistrad> Saik, If you're in a gui window, F5 usually refreshes what you see
[04:03] <_Rix> a rfkill list shows this:
[04:03] <_Rix> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[04:03] <_Rix> 	Soft blocked: no
[04:03] <_Rix> 	Hard blocked: yes
[04:04] <kellnola> maco, you can grep for package names in /var/lib/apt/lists at least
[04:04] <crohakon> Is there a way to access the partitioning application used by Ubuntu during installation?
[04:04] <Saik> sinistrad, nope, still blank
[04:04] <maco> kellnola: uh...no i can't. that file doesn't exist.
[04:04] <perscitus> qin,  i consider this a bug in gdm
[04:04] <Jon--> maco, That's the only way hmm? Damn
[04:05] <sinistrad> Saik, I remember Blizz doing weird things to discs to make the files hidden unless everything is right.
[04:05] <RevSpecies116> Then raise it on launchpad, perscitus [whom has me on ignore]
[04:05] <kellnola> it's a directory
[04:05] <maco> kellnola: no...
[04:05] <Saik> sinistrad, I installed this before though..
[04:05] <maco> kellnola: no such file or directory
[04:05] <Jon--> How do I determine which packages are installed from which repositories? ie given repo x.y.z, which packages are currently installed from x.y.z? I have apt and aptitude installed
[04:05] <maco> kellnola: dunno where you got yours
[04:05] <[an]droidman> _Rix: do "lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4" in a terminal
[04:06] <NDPTAL85> In the latest Ubuntu, is there an option to use the old desktop instead of the new Unity?
[04:06] <Saik> sinistrad, I had it on my linux installwhat was um.. hardy I think..
[04:06] <RevSpecies116> NDPTAL85: yep :)
[04:06] <sinistrad> Saik, which might be seeing them from windows...You might check in the wine docs for WoW install. I remember jumping through hoops to get the disc unlocked so I could even do a file copy
[04:06] <_Rix> [an]droidman, 05:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express [14e4:1713] (rev 02)
[04:06] <RevSpecies116> Ubuntu Classic
[04:06] <NDPTAL85> RevSpecies116: Sweet
[04:06] <kellnola> maco, dpkg -S /var/lib/apt/lists apt: /var/lib/apt/lists
[04:06] <xangua> !classic | NDPTAL85
[04:06] <[an]droidman> well then you dont need ndiswrapper...
[04:06] <kellnola> of course is doesn't tell you anything apt-cache doesn't show
[04:06] <RevSpecies116> On the login screen, change your session to Ubuntu Classic, NDPTAL85
[04:06] <Saik> sinistrad, got a link?
[04:06] <bin_bash> what's the best way to copy files from /etc/
[04:06] <NDPTAL85> RevSpecies116: Thanks
[04:07] <maco> kellnola: doh. sorry. i fail at reading. i read lib as log
[04:07] <_Rix> [an]droidman, sorry?
[04:07] <RevSpecies116> No trouble NDPTAL85
[04:07] <RevSpecies116> :)
[04:07] <rypervenche> bin_bash: Using the terminal.
[04:07] <[an]droidman> _Rix: give me a sec here
[04:07] <bin_bash> rypervenche, yes, but which command
[04:07] <_Rix> [an]droidman, sure thign
[04:08] <rypervenche> bin_bash: cp /etc/filename ~/Desktop/
[04:08] <maco> kellnola: guess that works then...and yeah it does do something different from apt-cache:  it organises by repo instead of package, just like Jon-- wanted
[04:08] <bin_bash> rypervenche, no, that doesn't work obviously or I wouldn't be asking
[04:08] <rypervenche> bin_bash: do "cp -a" to keep the attributes the same.
[04:08] <Saik> sinistrad, cause I have never run into this issue
[04:08] <sinistrad> Saik, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft#Installing WoW
[04:08] <rypervenche> bin_bash: What is the exact command that you have tried?
[04:08] <[an]droidman> _Rix: sorry, im on my phone and my signal is next to zero here
[04:09] <_Rix> [an]droidman, no worries, i'll figure out a solution
[04:09] <bin_bash> cp /etc/mpd_stream.conf ~/Desktop/
[04:09] <rypervenche> bin_bash: and what is the output of that?
[04:09] <brown_fern> crohakon: I always just use the gparted front-end to parted on a live disk, I use knoppix Linux but it could be any distro.
[04:09] <bin_bash> one sec
[04:10] <bin_bash> rypervenche, cp: cannot open `/etc/mpd.conf' for reading: Permission denied
[04:10] <rypervenche> bin_bash: Try running it as sudo
[04:10] <brown_fern> crohakon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gparted
[04:10] <rypervenche> bin_bash: as root* or using sudo
[04:11] <bin_bash> ok that worked
[04:11] <bin_bash> weird. last time it gave me an error
[04:12] <Roasted> What's the default font in Ubuntu 11.04?
[04:12] <bin_bash> Roasted, sans
[04:12] <RevSpecies116> Ubuntu Font Family?
[04:12] <RevSpecies116> They really need to use UFF across the board :)
[04:12] <Roasted> bin_bash, but is there a specific font though? I installed gnome shell and my fonts look different (I think, anyway) and it's set to Sans.
[04:13] <Saik> sinistrad, umount: /dev/cdrom0: not found
[04:13] <Jon--> kellnola, Would that command help me?
[04:13] <perscitus> How do i disable ATI driver in jocket-text ? I don't know name of the driver in use
[04:13] <rinkukokiri> bin_bash, don't feel bad, ubuntu's filled with "i swear it crashed every time i tried that yesterday" and "what? it worked this time????"    (at least in my experience)
[04:13] <perscitus> jockey-text
[04:13] <sinistrad> Saik, your cd mount device might be different.
[04:13] <perscitus> rinkukokiri, How do i disable ATI driver in jockey-text ? I don't know name of the driver in use
[04:13] <qin> perscitus: jockey-text -l
[04:14] <bin_bash> rinkukokiri, yeah I'm about to clean install because either x freezes or i get a kernel panic at least once a day
[04:14] <Saik> sinistrad, how do I find it?
[04:14] <perscitus> qin,  doesnt help me with name to use
[04:14] <RevSpecies116> Then find the name, perscitus
[04:15] <rinkukokiri> hrm
[04:15] <sinistrad> Saik, mine is /dev/sr0, but yours may be different than that.
[04:15] <rinkukokiri> why are my nvidia drivers 'enabled, not inuse'?
[04:15] <perscitus> qin,  i tried jockey-text -d flrgrx but couldnt find it
[04:15] <qin> perscitus:  locate fglrx
[04:16] <mrdeb> pcmanfm app menu empty. fix?
[04:16] <rinkukokiri> qin, any ideas ??  http://paste.ubuntu.com/620482/
[04:16] <perscitus> qin,  how does that help jockey-text
[04:16] <perscitus> qin,  I know whats it called but jockey isnt reconognizing it.
[04:16] <wojtek> unable to wakeup after suspend help?
[04:17] <Saik> sinistrad,  sr0 it was lol
[04:17] <sinistrad> Saik, =)
[04:17] <qin> perscitus: jockey is fronter to install/enable properiary drivers, but since your system do not work as intended, follow this (moment):
[04:18] <Saik> sinistrad, I think the thing just hates me in general lol
[04:18] <perscitus> qin,  maybe jockey installed it wrong
[04:18] <MK``> if I want to completely uninstall a program, should I use remove, purge, or autoremove?
[04:18] <MK``> or some combination?..
[04:18] <Saik> sinistrad, at least it's installing this time
[04:19] <qin> perscitus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/620486/
[04:19] <sinistrad> Saik, Haha, I get that too sometimes. I enjoy the challenges. At least I have a chance of fixing it in linux. Windows is a lost cause for me.
[04:19] <rinkukokiri> anyone know why jockey-text -l returns this??    xorg:nvidia_current - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
[04:19] <perscitus> qin that doesnt help
[04:19] <Saik> sinistrad, I'm good with windows :P
[04:20] <RevSpecies116> just do it, perscitus :)
[04:20] <perscitus>  How do i disable ATI driver in jockey-text ? I don't know name of the driver in use
[04:20] <qin> perscitus: Explain, you do not have fglrx?
[04:20] <perscitus> RevSpecies116,  i didnt ask for apt-get use. I asked for jockey use.
[04:21] <RevSpecies116> Raise the bug about gdm in launchpad, perscitus
[04:21] <qin> rinkukokiri: Is one of common things in Natty this days after  upgare with driver emabled.
[04:21] <perscitus> RevSpecies116,  be quiet.
[04:22] <rinkukokiri> qin, ??  i don't quite understand
[04:22] <Saik> sinistrad, I'm my frieds' tech support, and you guys are my experts I call on :)
[04:22] <qin> perscitus: Btw, what was err from xinit?
[04:22] <perscitus> RevSpecies116,  You are not contributing to the discussion so dont talk to me
[04:22] <Jon--> If I have an entry in sources.list and in sources.list.d and apt-get is complaining about duplicate entries, what is the best way to resolve the problem?
[04:22] <perscitus> qin,  didnt work but entered it wrong last time
[04:22] <rinkukokiri> perscitus,   i may be mistaken but RevSpecies116  never suggested apt-get help for your issue.
[04:23] <Wisnia> anyone can recommend me system configuration utility - services,advanced system settings?
[04:23] <qin> perscitus: xinit -- :1 vt8 (that should start plain x with term window)
[04:23] <RevSpecies116> rinkukokiri: Correct - perscitus was contradicting the help he was recieving from qin and refusing to go ahead with the instructions qin gave
[04:23] <perscitus> rinkukokiri,  actually, he did.
[04:23] <RevSpecies116> almost as if perscitus doesn't want to be helped :(
[04:23] <bin_bash> where are scripts stored? /usr/bin/
[04:23] <rinkukokiri> perscitus, you ARE very impatient, demanding and outright rude... I commend anyone that still wishes to help you...
[04:24] <phreck> how would i stop X from starting automatically?
[04:24] <sinistrad> Saik, I'm no expert, I'm just someone that logged in here and saw something I was somewhat familiar with from my days with WoW.
[04:24] <perscitus> rinkukokiri,  i dont do work arounds. I want this one thing fixed. Using apt-get is a work around
[04:24] <Jon--> If I have an entry in sources.list and in sources.list.d and apt-get is complaining about duplicate entries, what is the best way to resolve the problem?
[04:24] <wildgoose> phreck, runlevel?
[04:24] <qin> (I suspect day wayland be here, we all get bold)
[04:24] <phreck> eh...
[04:24] <Saik> sinistrad, I mean you guys here in general :)
[04:24] <phreck> i want x to not start when i boot the machine
[04:24] <RevSpecies116> If you want help, perscitus, I suggest you follow through with it and don't question your helpers
[04:25] <perscitus> RevSpecies116 and rinkukokiri  are very close to being reported.
[04:25] <phreck> im attempting to force myself to learn command line =P
[04:25] <qin> phreck: in grup use "text" instead of "splash"
[04:25] <phreck> qin: will i be able to startx if i do that though?
[04:25] <phreck> i would like the option, just do not want it on by default
[04:26] <qin> phreck: Yes, with startx, or sudo service gdm start, or xinit -- :0 vt7
[04:26] <phreck> yes
[04:26] <phreck> ok
[04:26] <qin> phreck: <3
[04:26] <phreck> ty
[04:26] <phreck> im gonna give that a shot now =D
[04:26] <phreck> er.
[04:27] <phreck> in grub...
[04:27] <phreck> meh. ill look at the config
[04:27] <rsharma> I just wanted to ask for a oppnionated question
[04:27] <qin> phreck: hold shift at boot, press e, and edit kernel line.
[04:27] <phreck> ok
[04:27] <rsharma> what do you guys prefer - Ubuntu Unity, Ubuntu Gnome, Kubuntu, any other varients and why?
[04:27] <phreck> brb.
[04:27] <xangua> !ot | rsharma
[04:28] <phreck> hopefully in tty1  by default this time.
[04:28] <qin> phreck: If you like this, you can edit grub too ;)
[04:28] <sgerbino> is the ubuntu font license compatible with gpl ?
[04:29] <qin> sgerbino: Likely yes, license is listed on website, just search for package
[04:29] <lapaga> at least according to grc...everything is stealth except ping reply.  how can one stop replying to pings with ufw (gufw) and can that cause problems?
[04:29] <RevSpecies116> sgerbino: http://font.ubuntu.com/ufl/FAQ.html :)
[04:29] <sinistrad> Saik, Yep, these guys in here are great
[04:29] <Saik> sinistrad, yep. the linux cummnity in general are awesome people
[04:29] <Roasted> If I want to add a theme to Gnome Shell on Ubuntu 11.04, not for the dashboard/lens, but for the actual windows themselves, do I just add a 2.x theme?
[04:30] <sgerbino> RevSpecies116: I found that, at the end of the part of it saying GPL exception it also says "(The exception is being reviewed)."
[04:31] <rinkukokiri> brb seeing if an uninstall /reinstall of nvidia-current worked or not.
[04:32] <RevSpecies116> sgerbino: The story in a nut shell: - they have not yet chosen a suitable licence for the font
[04:33] <rww> Roasted: GNOME 3 isn't supported officially or, thus, in #ubuntu.
[04:33] <sgerbino> RevSpecies116: ok thanks
[04:34] <Itqan> hey i have a strange problem with my ubuntu 11.04
[04:34] <Itqan> i was trying to install python 2.5 on it
[04:35] <Itqan> i couldnt get it from repository so i downloaded the tar .bz
[04:35] <Itqan> and then complied it
[04:35] <Itqan> using the configuer file and then
[04:35] <Itqan> make
[04:35] <Itqan> and the sudo make install
 Roasted: GNOME 3 isn't supported officially or, thus, in #ubuntu.
[04:35] <Roasted> rww, will it be in 11.10 since itll be in the repos then?
[04:35] <starcoder2> silly Ubuntu :(
[04:35] <Roasted> starcoder2, well I think its just cause gnome shell was released JUST after 11.04, so it couldnt be included in the repos.
[04:36] <Roasted> I would think anyway.
[04:36] <rww> Roasted: yup
[04:36] <rww> starcoder2: yup
[04:36] <Itqan> its installed i guess but it doesent show up in installed programs
[04:36] <Roasted> I read it'll be in 11.10's repos.
[04:36] <Itqan> nor it satisfies the dependency of my blender
[04:36] <Itqan> pls tell my why and how i fix this?
[04:36] <abdelkader> hello
[04:36] <Itqan> hello
[04:36] <rinkukokiri> Can anyone explain this for me: xorg:nvidia_current - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
[04:37] <abdelkader> are you fine
[04:38] <kubu2> Roasted: Gnome3 is in the repo for 11.11
[04:38] <bullgard4> Firefox > NOScript message : "Scripts Currently Forbidden | <SCRIPT>: 6 | <OBJECT>:0" What does here mean <OBJECT>:0?
[04:38] <crohakon> Is there a way to access the partitioning application used by Ubuntu during installation? I'd like to use something like that, as I only have ssh access. No GUI
[04:39] <Itqan> anyone pls?
[04:39] <lapaga> ./
[04:39] <kubu2> crohakon: if you chose manually disk partitioning then yes
[04:40] <trism> bullgard4: noscript can block flash/java applets in addition to javascript, if it blocks one of those, it is counted with the object tags
[04:40] <MK``> if I want to completely uninstall a program, should I use remove, purge, or autoremove? or some combination?..
[04:40] <bullgard4> trism: Ah! Thank you very much for explaining.
[04:41] <crohakon> kubu2, I have a new hard drive I need to partition, format, and mount.
[04:41] <starcoder2> rww: * ChanServ gives channel operator status to rww
[04:41] <rww> MK``: purge is remove plus getting rid of system-wide configuration files for the program. autoremove does something unrelated to what you want.
[04:41] <starcoder2> rww: not very ninja like
[04:41] <MK``> thanks rww
[04:41] <rww> starcoder2: I'm doing maintenance, not hitting people with a hammer ;P
[04:41] <starcoder2> lol
[04:42] <rinkukokiri> why are my nvidia drivers enabled, NOT IN USE???
[04:42] <Itqan> any one pleasssssssssse?
[04:44] <uglyoldbob> im trying to configure git-daemon for ubuntu 10.04. /usr/bin/git-daemon is not present. I already have a working install of gitolite.
[04:45] <maccam941> anyone know what could cause the system v runlevel compatbility init script to fail? i just had a friend run nvidia-xconfig and add the nvidia module to /etc/modules, and when she rebooted it failed
[04:45] <brown_fern> crohakon: are you looking for Parted? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parted
[04:45] <Itqan> anyone please?
[04:46] <MK``> is it safe to run autoremove at all times?
[04:46] <StepNjump> Guys, I have a computer that came with Windows 7. Then I installed ubuntu afterwards on a dual boot system. I dont have any backup of windows and now I need to reinstall ubuntu again as my configuration is corrupted. But first I would like to back up the MBR information so that if I mess up, I will still be able to boot up in Windows. What is the best way to go about that? dd ? Thank you..
[04:46] <uglyoldbob> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git does not work for me
[04:46] <qin> Itqan: My python (repos) is 2.6, why do you install 2.5?
[04:46] <maccam941> Itqan: http://welcometoubuntu.blogspot.com/2010/05/howto-install-python-255-on-ubuntu-1004.html
[04:47] <Itqan> for blender
[04:47] <KM0201> StepNjump: did you set up a dual boot system, or did you use wubi?
[04:47] <nit-wit> StepNjump, backing up the mbr is not needed.
[04:48] <StepNjump> KM0201 what is wubi? It was just the ubuntu installer that prepared my new partition and all....
[04:48] <KM0201> StepNjump: did you "boot" the CD, or did you pop it in, and install inside windows?
[04:48] <Itqan> hey what does this do/mean:
[04:48] <Itqan> sudo ln -s /usr/local/python2.5/bin/python /usr/bin/python2.5
[04:48] <Afteraffekt> how do i pull up the last kmesg?
[04:48] <StepNjump> ni-wit, I know I can always do a fixmbr but...
[04:48] <maccam941> StepNjump: wubi is run from within windows, and installs ubuntu into a file on the windows partition
[04:48] <nit-wit> wubi
[04:48] <Guest1> itqan it makes a shortcut
[04:48] <nit-wit> ;)
[04:49]  * KM0201 wishes wubi was removed from the planet
[04:49] <tapple> ubuntu software center is saying "check your connection to the internet", but apt-get is working fine. I disabled NetworkManager because it wasn't respecting my config in /etc/network/interfaces, and now ubuntu software center doesn't work
[04:49] <qin> Itqan: And blender you installing from source or repos?
[04:49] <Guest1> wubi is not that bad because you don't have to partition the HD
[04:49] <KM0201> StepNjump: ?.. how did you install ubuntu?.. did you boot the CD, or did you install inside windows.
[04:49] <KM0201> Guest1: yes, wubi is that bad...
[04:49] <StepNjump> mmmm that's a good question. I think I just put the usb stick in there and installed by booting right into the installer from Ubuntu.. I don't fully remember KM0201 but I know I partitioned in EXT4
[04:50] <phong_> hi guys, hwo can i list usb files with command?
[04:50] <phong_> i have plugged usb memory , how can i view it with command terminal screen
[04:50] <phong_> anyone?
[04:50] <KM0201> StepNjump: are you under windows or Ubuntu right now?
[04:50] <Itqan> i downloaded .deb file from my father office coz my nets too crappy o download that
[04:50] <maccam941> phong_: your usb device should show up in the computer window
[04:50] <Guest1> KM0201: yeah I agree that it sucks, but for a novice user its not that bad
[04:50] <KM0201> phong_: lsusb should show usb devices
[04:50] <Itqan> maccam941 i have done all the things written theree except to add that shortcut but why does it appear in installed programs?
[04:51] <tapple> phong_: it's in /media, assuming it automounted correctly
[04:51] <Itqan> i can use it from terminal though
[04:51] <qin> phong_: df -h (to see if usb is mounted)
[04:51] <maccam941> Itqan: you can use synaptic to generate a list of files to download elsewhere
[04:51] <brown_fern> StepNjump: I'm trying to understand, did you install Ubuntu on the same computer that Windows 7 was on?
[04:51] <StepNjump> mmm I could be in ubuntu but my X is down because I lost my ice configuration  or something like that.. my upgrade didn't go well.. I have access to the shell though by pressing ctrl alt F2
[04:51] <KM0201> Guest1: the problem is, when wubi breaks, it has a tendency to break both OS's.. where w/ a traditional dual boot system, you will usually be able to boot at least 1 system.
[04:51] <nit-wit> StepNjump, when you power on the computer do you get the grub bootloader or the windows menu?
[04:51] <KM0201> StepNjump: that was a beautiful answer, that iddn't answer anything i asked.. are you in windows, or ubuntu right now
[04:51] <Guest1> agreed
[04:52] <phong_> maccam941, i dont want to use window click
[04:52] <phong_> i want to learn in the command way of listing
[04:52] <KM0201> phong_: lsusb
[04:52] <KM0201> that'll list all usb devices
[04:52] <uglyoldbob> does git-daemon still work for ubuntu 10.04? im having difficulties
[04:52] <phong_> KM0201, i did it and what?
[04:52] <Guest1> ....so question... why doesn't my grub always load up?  sometimes it loads fine, sometimes it doesn't load... I can't even get to the grub menu selection
[04:52] <StepNjump> brown_fern, yes, it's a netbook so I don't have an optical drive.. Yes it came with Win7 (I only use it for a specific application) and yes then I installed ubuntu on the Win7 computer that I had bought at Costco. It worked well until I tried to upgrade to 11.04 at the terminal level...
[04:53] <KM0201> phong_: do you see your devices?
[04:53] <StepNjump> nit-wit: bootloader
[04:53] <maccam941> phong_: what's your native language? there may be another channel that can help you more effectively?
[04:53] <StepNjump> KM0201.. I can be wherever you want me to be
[04:53] <StepNjump> just tell me
[04:53] <cjae> anyone know how to make firefox have a very light grey background instead of white (too bright) without losing how the webpage is supposed to look
[04:53] <Itqan> maccam941 i did that only got blender form my fathers pc
[04:53] <nit-wit> StepNjump, menu where you choose ubuntu or windows is it grub or a windows menu?
[04:53] <Itqan> my problem isnt with blender
[04:53] <StepNjump> nit-wit grub
[04:54] <phong_> well KM0201 how can i got to /media
[04:54] <qin> phong_: cd /media
[04:55] <KM0201> StepNjump: well, first, i'd verify whether you used wubi or not.. boot windows, look in add/remove programs, and see if you see "Windows Ubuntu Installer" or "WUBI" or something to that effect
[04:55] <KM0201> phong_: sorry, i'm not really able to understand your question.
[04:55] <rinkukokiri> hopefully I don't break my junk
[04:55] <tapple> StepNjump: you can make a rescue disk on a usb disk at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[04:55] <Itqan> IDK why dependency isnt satisfied even after installing python
[04:55] <StepNjump> ok KM0201, I will check
[04:55] <phong_> KM0201, i got it.. i can see it with browsing thru /media ;)
[04:55] <phong_> KM0201, thanks
[04:55] <KM0201> StepNjump: now.. assuming you DID use wubi... uninstall wubi, before doing anything else.
[04:55] <KM0201> phong_: ok.
[04:55] <maccam941> Itqan: if you got all of the packages you needed to from synaptic, you shouldn't need to install anything from source
[04:55] <nit-wit> KM0201, I agree it took so long to get to the bootloader I don't trust the answer.;)
[04:55] <KM0201> why didn't you say you anted to know where it was mounted
[04:55] <StepNjump> ok thanks tapple
[04:55] <KM0201> nit-wit: :)
[04:55] <phong_> KM0201, 1 last thing,  how can i do copy file to  my home desktop
[04:55] <Itqan> k
[04:55] <phong_> let say i 'm in the current direct: i want to copy a file to my home deaktop
[04:55] <Itqan> ty
[04:55] <KM0201> StepNjump: now, if you DID NOT use wubi.. and in fact have a normal dual boot system.... then there's no need to back up your MBR, because when you reinstall, the MBR is gonna be rewritten
[04:55] <Itqan> bye
[04:55] <qin> phong_: cp /media/disk/file ~/Desktop
[04:55] <phong_> cp myfile ~/Desktop ?
[04:56] <phong_> oh okay thanks
[04:56] <phong_> got it
[04:56] <maccam941> anyone know what could cause the system v runlevel compatbility init script to fail? i just had a friend run nvidia-xconfig and add the nvidia module to /etc/modules, and upon reboot her system failed to start
[04:56] <KM0201> phong_: i think i have a PDF that has a bazillion terminal commands in it.. might be handy for you... there's also several "wallpapers" out there that have them.
[04:57] <StepNjump> oh it says GNU GRUB version 1.99-4ubuntu2
[04:57] <qin> KM0201: "apt-get install sl" seems to be awesome advice.
[04:58] <KM0201> apt-get install sl?
[04:58] <KM0201> !info sl
[04:58] <KM0201> hmm
[04:58] <qin> KM0201: You do not know sl??? ls sl
[04:58] <rinkukokiri> having problems with nvidia...
[04:59] <rinkukokiri> 'additional drivers' says enabled but not in use
[04:59] <KM0201> qin: i've never use sl  used ls many times
[04:59] <qin> KM0201: Thats must have stuff!
[04:59] <lapaga> although wubi is not a end all to be all...it does serve its purpose...i would like to run ubuntu..(actually Xubuntu) and without wubi I would not be able without just a live cd.  Unless everyone is willing to have me set up a paypal for donations this is the way things will be.  although wubi might break things it will allow one to experience U,K,X,umbuntu
[04:59] <StepNjump> KM0201 good point but all I'm trying to do is get some kind of bckup so that if something goes wrong with the new install, the MBR will remember where Windows is located so I can salvage my computer
[04:59] <KM0201> phong_: http://galpotha.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/linuxunix-terminal-commands-quick-reference-wallpapers/
[04:59] <elTigre> Hey, i am having an emergency....
[04:59] <KM0201> call 911
[05:00] <elTigre> I had my PC on standby for the night, now it won't wake up
[05:00] <elTigre> "usb device over current status detected"
[05:00] <qin> StepNjump: Windows installator have tool to recover MBR, less dangerous than your method.
[05:00] <elTigre> google helped a little, but no useful advice
[05:00] <StepNjump> KM0201 no.. no WUBI or anything like that in my uninstall window
[05:01] <elTigre> disconnected any cable (except power), still won't boot
[05:01] <qin> StepNjump: Aslo M$ secovery CDs
[05:01] <qin> *recovery
[05:01] <elTigre> and it worked about 6 hours ago....
[05:01] <KM0201> StepNjump: ok... so honestly, why do you want to back up your MBR? when all it does is point at a bricked ubuntu install?... reinstall Ubuntu (properly) and grub  will be properly rewritten and allow you to boot both OSs
[05:01] <elTigre> shouldn't be bios, since it worked before
[05:01] <Saik> sinistrad, d2x keeps aborting :@
[05:02] <KM0201> StepNjump: there is a free utility however, that makes it really easy to backup your MBR, restore a backed up mbr, or install a new windows mbr..
[05:02] <sinistrad> DirectX issues?
[05:02] <sinistrad> Saik, DirectX issues?
[05:02] <StepNjump> qin, yes that is true but since this is a netbook, I cannot create a recovery CD or DVD because it's too stupid to offer me to create an ISO file. and I dont feel like buying magiciso either
[05:02] <Raptors> How do you configure with cflags?
[05:02] <codilechasseur> Can anyone lend a hand with preseeds and building a custom iso for use with VirtualBox?
[05:02] <Saik> sinistrad, I installed that
[05:02] <KM0201> StepNjump: the point is.. you've already overwritten the windows MBR, w/ the Ubuntu Grub.. why do you want to back i tup now?
[05:02] <Raptors> CFLAGS="..." ./configure?
[05:02] <LinLex> Hey, I was wanting to find the documentation channel?
[05:03] <qin> StepNjump: ah, ok...
[05:03] <StepNjump> KM0201. ... oh yes? Which one?
[05:03] <KM0201> StepNjump: or do you want to restore a windows grub, then back up that?
[05:03] <Saik> sinistrad, it stops at d2char.mpq
[05:03] <nit-wit> StepNjump, you can do a one time image of the whole C to a external drive.
[05:03] <codilechasseur> So far I've got my preseed and an uncompressed ubuntu server iso. Tried creating a new iso with imgburn and it's not bootable
[05:03] <KM0201> http://www.easus.com   although i admit, i can't make heads or tails of your problem, you're all over the place... the free version should do what you want (whatever that is)
[05:03] <qin> LinLex: You mean Ubuntu docs, /msg ubuntu bot
[05:04] <Wisnia> hi
[05:04] <rww> LinLex: #ubuntu-doc
[05:04] <LinLex> lol
[05:04] <LinLex> thanks
[05:04] <qin> LinLex: Sorry, /msg ubottu bot
[05:04] <Saik> sinistrad, I think his PC just hates me lol
[05:04] <StepNjump> nit-wit... Not with this one... They call it the 'create a system repair disc' and when I click on that, it says that it cant find the optical drive.. Pretty brilliant from Windoze but nothing surprises me from these guys
[05:04] <rww> qin: what does ubottu's help text have to do with the Documentation Team?
[05:04] <qin> rww: oh?
[05:05] <bullgard4> man aplay: "OPTIONS: -L, --list-devices: list all PCMs defined." What are 'PCMs'?
[05:05] <sinistrad> Saik, DirectX won't really work under wine all that well, but I don't think you're having to worry about 3d graphics, so I'm not sure. WoW needs 3D, so I had to use openGL.
[05:05] <Wisnia> how to stop and start services , any gui configuration tool?
[05:05] <sinistrad> Saik, That may not be of much help to you though.
[05:05] <Saik> sinistrad, D3d HAL wat what D2 said
[05:05] <JayWalker_> Having a problem with browsing the internet atm. I know I'm connected, because IRC and xkype still work. However, chromium and firefox won't navigate to any page. Getting error 105 "name not resolved"
[05:06] <hiexpo> Wisnia, what you want to start and stop ?
[05:06] <Saik> sinistrad, so it actaully DOES work, it's just being a pain to install :@
[05:06] <Wisnia> services
[05:06] <hiexpo> Wisnia, what services ?
[05:06] <OctoByte> Wisnia: What service? Any in particular?
[05:06] <Wisnia> system services
[05:07] <OctoByte> Wisnia: Are you thinking processes maybe?
[05:07] <hiexpo> Wisnia, for us to help you   > you need to be more specific
[05:07] <sinistrad> Saik, Then you're doing something I've never done before.
[05:07] <Wisnia> for example sendmail
[05:07] <Wisnia> or ssh
[05:08] <Saik> sinistrad, Windows-like installing lol
[05:08] <IdleOne> bullgard4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-code_modulation
[05:09] <sinistrad> Saik, =)
[05:09] <qin> Wisnia: sudo sevice ssh stop/start, gui? not sure.
[05:09] <Saik> sinistrad, it don't like me lol
[05:09] <JayWalker_> anyone?
[05:09] <Saik> JayWalker_, repeat plz?
[05:10] <SuperMiguel> speed wise is there a difference between installing ubuntu using wubi and installing ubuntu on a partition?
[05:10] <OctoByte> JayWalker_: repeat?
[05:10] <JayWalker_> Having a problem with browsing the internet atm. I know I'm connected, because IRC and xkype still work. However, chromium and firefox won't navigate to any page. Getting error 105 "name not resolved"
[05:10] <JayWalker_> Same error on my laptop
[05:10] <JayWalker_> so... something in my router maybe?
[05:10] <sinistrad> JayWalker_, You're having a DNS issue somewhere it seems, maybe from your router or ISP perhaps?
[05:10] <OctoByte> JayWalker_: Dsounds like a DNS
[05:11] <JayWalker_> will try restarting router in a minute
[05:11] <hiexpo> dns or a firewall
[05:11] <uglyoldbob> i am getting the remote end hung up unexpectedly when trying to use public git cloning on my git server
[05:12] <Servandus> Hello, I have a problem. I started to install Ubuntu on to my machine a few hours ago, and chose "Specify partitions manually" since I intend to keep Windows for gaming purposes, not to mention the vast amount of data that I have stored. However, I went back a step after proceeding in order to check something, and when I again proceeded my choice had been automatically reverted to "Erase and use the entire disk". I realized what happe
[05:12] <elTigre> no idea?
[05:12] <bullgard4> IdleOne: I know well what pulse-code modulation is. in 'man aplay' the acronym 'PCM' is not used for 'pulse-code modulation' but for something else. One cannot enumerate pulse-code modulations.
[05:12] <Servandus> Windows, but only 100 MB seem to have been explicitly reformatted.
[05:13] <Servandus> However, about 400 GB were changed to "unallocated", but they must still hold all of my data. How can I access this data?
[05:14] <Servandus> If anyone wishes, I can repeat all three parts of my query so that they will appear in sequence.
[05:14] <qin> Servandus: Easy shot is to use testdisk and rebuild partition table.
[05:14] <lapaga> SuperMiguel, contrary to what most will tell you...wubi will work...i am using it right now with only 256M ram (everyone will tell you that lubuntu or puppy are the only options but that is not actually correct.  i am not saying that things will not work better with a real install but am saying that it will work to see how things go just fine
[05:15] <Servandus> qin: I will look into this and see if I can figure it out - thank you
[05:15] <bernard___> hello, I need to restore mysql database from OS image. What I did: created new database, stopped mysql, copied failes from my backup into /var/lib/mysql/{db_backup}, started mysql, now if a run show tables; it shows me all tables, but if I want to select from table it writes that:table doesn't exists. Please any ideas ?
[05:15] <Raptors> How do you configure with cflags?
[05:15] <Raptors> CFLAGS="..." ./configure?
[05:15] <SuperMiguel> lapaga, speed wise? like HD read and write? they are the same???
[05:16] <rinkukokiri> allright  having a problem with nvidia-current being enabled, not in use
[05:16] <rinkukokiri> http://askubuntu.com/questions/47378/nvidia-current-drivers-enabled-not-in-use-help
[05:16] <sourav> Hi, I tried dual boot (Win7 and Kubuntu), the Grub crashed. Now when I switch on my laptop, I don't see any boot option. I tried a few forum/tuturial, but I have one doubt. The commands I tried are at http://paste.kde.org/79477/. I am not able to execute just one command 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda'. It appears, if I can execute this last command, I can fix my boot load.
[05:16] <Roasted> Is it normal for a software raid array controlled by mdadm to resync itself every so often?
[05:17] <lapaga> SuperMiguel, i am guessing not..but you have to realize that I do not know what a current system is capable of...this is the same system that i use with winxp and it seems to be working just as well
[05:17] <Servandus> qin: I am a newbie to anything Linux - is "testdisk" a command or a utility?
[05:17] <bullgard4> Servandus: It is a special CD.
[05:18] <hiexpo> !testdisk
[05:18] <Servandus> bullgard4: Thank you, I'll see if I can find an image.
[05:18] <qin> Servandus: command line utility, there is more options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[05:18] <lapaga> one has to understand that some or most of the people here (as in most current discussions) do not know what it is like to have lived in the past :)
[05:18] <Servandus> qin: Thanks, reading the page now
[05:19] <hiexpo> Servandus, testdisk is a forensic app for recoverying data
[05:20] <qin> Servandus: And testdisk own wiki: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[05:21] <BryanLee1981> is there a good solution for flash playback? I get a lot of blocks and general poor performance. I'm using 11.04 and an ATI Radeon 4200
[05:21] <Servandus> qin: Thank you very much for your quick and helpful responses. Here's hoping for the best!
[05:22] <qin> Servandus: Anytime.
[05:26] <lapaga> SuperMiguel, just to make myself clear...I would not be using wubi if I was able to use a regular install.  wubi opens you up to several opportunities for problems.  i would if i were able to (failing hard drive ) but...it will allow you to experience ubuntu to the fullest (with a potential of problems).  sorry if my typing lags the discussion.
[05:26] <DerFed> raid repair software?
[05:27] <ptley> If your hard drive has bad sectors wubi will be worse than reg install
[05:27] <cannonfodder> ANYONE here regularly visit godlikeproductions?
[05:29] <lapaga> more than one way for an hd to fail...spin up time
[05:29] <cannonfodder> anyone here visit the website www.godlikeproductions.com?
[05:29] <rww> cannonfodder: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support, not offtopic chatter.
[05:29] <rinkukokiri> i'm having issues with nvidia-current being enabled, not in use.. also I *CAN* run glgears
[05:30] <sourav> Hi, I tried dual boot (Win7 and Kubuntu), the Grub crashed. Now when I switch on my laptop, I don't see any boot option. I tried a few forum/tuturial, but I have one doubt. The commands I tried are at http://paste.kde.org/79477/. I am not able to execute just one command 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda'. It appears, if I can execute this last command, I can fix my boot load. Please help.
[05:30] <sudouser> hello?
[05:31] <rinkukokiri> !nvidia
[05:33] <uglyoldbob> how can i verify if git daemon is configured properly?
[05:36] <bullgard4> man aplay: "OPTIONS: -L, --list-devices: list all PCMs defined." What are 'PCMs'?
[05:36] <rinkukokiri> seriously, do i have to download and install the drivers from nvidia to get them working or what?
[05:36] <lapaga> pulse code modulation?
[05:36] <rinkukokiri> I'm about to file the entire release of 11.04 as one giant bug and just rollback to 10.10
[05:37] <bullgard4> lapaga: No.
[05:38] <bullgard4> !git | uglyoldbob
[05:38] <IdleOne> bullgard4: that is what PCM is. PCM devices refers to devices that do pulse code modulation
[05:40] <bullgard4> IdleOne: But in 'man aplay' it is not called »PCM devices«. Rather, it is called "PCMs". But this is probably meant.
[05:41] <raze> Okey, I got to mount my partition encrypted with ecryptfs, I got the encryption key already
[05:41] <raze> What command do I use and one what file_
[05:41] <IdleOne> bullgard4: correct, the description is poorly written but that is what PCMs is referring to
[05:41] <raze> ?
[05:41] <bullgard4> IdleOne: Thank you very much for your help.
[05:42] <IdleOne> welcome
[05:46] <phreck> the failure was epic.
[05:46] <phreck> qin, i dont know how to get wifi running from the term. i lose. lol
[05:46] <uglyoldbob> ok my git-daemon appears to be looking at /var/cache instead of /home/git/repositories
[05:48] <Saik> sinistrad, going oldscool. copying the file from my brother's PC to this one :P
[05:50] <rinkukokiri> WHY can't i get my nvidia drivers to be in use
[05:50] <rinkukokiri> they are stuck at 'enabled, not in use'
[05:50] <rinkukokiri> NEVER HAD THIS ISSUE WITH 10.XX AND PRIOR
[05:51] <phreck> cry moar.
[05:51] <rinkukokiri> so, they come out with a new release.      everything breaks, and they call it a success.
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, check your Xorg logs or "lspci -vnvn" find the VGA section and 'kernel driver in use' -- i think it's a reporting bug of the driver tool, the driver is probably in use actually.
[05:52] <rage> The `free` command shows used -/+ buffers/cache. From memory the bot in here has a really nice explanation of what that all means. Could someone provide me with the link?
[05:52] <rage> or invoke the bot to provide me with the link? :-)
[05:52] <lapaga> seems that the but is showing not in use but is actually
[05:53] <rinkukokiri> !memory
[05:53] <rage> rinkukokiri: Thanks, thats exactly the article I was looking for
[05:56] <rinkukokiri> ZykoticK9, lapaga   here's all my relevant info i knew to post ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/47378/nvidia-current-drivers-enabled-not-in-use-help
[05:56] <rinkukokiri> those infobytes tell me kernel driver is nvidia, but jockey says it's not in use
[05:56] <rinkukokiri> so it's a bug with jockey?
[05:58] <rinkukokiri> should i file a bug with jockey then?
[05:59] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, do you have 3d acceleration working?  it is showing kernel as both nvidia-current and nouveau (open source, probably non 3d)
[06:00] <rinkukokiri> funny, because i thought i specifically went into synaptic and uninstalled nouveau... i can run glgears
[06:00] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, do you get reasonable frame rate?  even better, can you run Unity or Compiz?
[06:01] <ramondogwood> valeu
[06:01] <uglyoldbob> anybody know how i can "fix" git-daemon so it will look at the correct base folder (instead of /var/cache?)
[06:01] <rinkukokiri> i can run unity, yea
[06:01] <rinkukokiri> how do i blacklist nouveau?
[06:01] <ZykoticK9> !blacklist
[06:05] <sontek> Ubuntu 11.04 offered to install a binary ati driver after install, it totally fucked my system, is there a way to revert back to the old one?
[06:06] <rinkukokiri> still nothing
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, i think if you can run Unity that your Nvidia driver is being used - it's just Jockey that's misreporting.  Several people have visited this channel with the same issue.
[06:11] <sontek> I don't know what driver it was using before, its using radeon right now
[06:14] <FernandoTertiary> having problems with the new Thunderbird update. It is asking for a logfile posteri pushing "s" when it suggests "end"
[06:14] <FernandoTertiary> any suggestions?
[06:14] <jtannenbaum> I tried to install Ubuntu on a 40gb interal HDD in my PC.. I succeeded, but now my PC can't boot without the HDD in
[06:14] <fizyplankton> jtannenbaum: it sounds like a bios issue.
[06:14] <jtannenbaum> a grub issue I think
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> jtannenbaum, i'd say grub issue as well
[06:15] <fizyplankton> jtannenbaum: no. if the hdd is removed, grub is out of the picture
[06:15] <lapaga> well have a good night (day all)
[06:15] <jtannenbaum> since I get the grub rescue> thing
[06:15] <Raikia> I'm pretty sure my Ubuntu corrupts itself.  I leave my computer on for weeks at a time, but when I reboot (even after a completely clean install), it fails to boot occasionally (or the mouse/keyboard doesn't work, or my USB controllers fail)
[06:15] <jtannenbaum> I have a larger HDD I usually use
[06:15] <fizyplankton> jtannenbaum: if you get grub without the ubuntu hdd in, idk what you did. that means l=you have like a ventriliquist hdd, or at the very least a wireless hdd
[06:16] <Raikia> Occasionally it boots 100% (complete OS loaded into RAM) and runs fine until it gets rebooted again (obviously: pulling from harddrive to RAM)
[06:16] <jtannenbaum> when I have both in, I can use grub to choose between the two
[06:16] <jtannenbaum> I have two ubuntu HDDs, I should have said that
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> jtannenbaum, most likely grub in installed on your main HD, but the grub files are on you 40GB...  thus the problem if that drive isn't plugged in...
[06:16] <honey> i canot install software in my ubuntu10.10?
[06:16] <cillin> got a corrupt pkg database saying: Reading package lists... Error!
[06:16] <cillin> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[06:16] <cillin> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[06:16] <nit-wit> jtannenbaum, you over wrote the bigger hd's mbr with grub. What are the installs on the g=bigger non ubuntu HD?
[06:17] <Axalon> What do you mean by that, Honey? You're having problems installing software?
[06:17] <honey> Axalon:yeah
[06:17] <cillin> how to repair?
[06:17] <crass_> Hey so.. I've got a question for any emulator freaks that might be present: What's your favorite NES emulator?
[06:18] <fizyplankton> cillin: two things: pastebin, and try going to update manager and doing a full update. also, sounds stupid, but make sure firefox can connect to the inet
[06:18] <jtannenbaum> both are Ubuntu. I started with a 500gb HDD with ubuntu; I plugged a 40gb in and booted to a 10.10 CD and installed Ubuntun on the 40gb with the (now naive-seeming) intent of taking it out and putting it in another computer which wouldn't boot or recognize CD drives
[06:18] <jtannenbaum> Ubuntu*
[06:18] <ZykoticK9> crass_, mednafen is decent and in the default repo
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> crass_, it's cli based though - that doesn't work for many people...
[06:20] <fizyplankton> ZykoticK9: you kidding me??? CLI FTW!!!!!!1 im even in a cli irc client right now
[06:20] <ZykoticK9> fizyplankton, it's a plus for me too... others, not so much ;)
[06:20] <Jon--> How do I set up Ubuntu to suspend after a certain amount of time, rather than hibernate? I have issues with hibernation on my laptop.
[06:20] <nit-wit> jtannenbaum, so could you be real specific here....what are the exact distro's installed and do you know if you were using grub-legacy or grub2, on that bigger HD.
[06:21] <rinkukokiri> well, listed my bug    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/793855
[06:22] <jtannenbaum> The 500gb, which I am currently booted to, is actually 10.4; and I'm not sure which I was using but grub2 rings more of a bell. If there is a way to check I can do that
[06:22] <Loshki> jtannenbaum: what you did is entirely reasonable. Your only mistake was in failing to unplug the 500gb disk when you did the install...
[06:22] <jtannenbaum> 10.04 or whatever
[06:22] <nit-wit> jtannenbaum, so you booted to the hd by having the smaller plugged in correct.
[06:23] <rinkukokiri> !grub2 | jtannenbaum
[06:23] <jtannenbaum> yes
[06:23] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, i think this is the bug you should have marked yourself as being "affected by" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/771788
[06:23] <kennett> I installed Ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop the other day and I have no sound.
[06:23] <rinkukokiri> looks like you got grub 2
[06:24] <jtannenbaum> when the 40gb is unplugged, it says "can't find device [buncha letters]-[buncha numbers]-etc" and gives me the grub rescue> terminal
[06:24] <nit-wit> jtannenbaum, open a terminal and run sudo grub-install /dev/sda      make sure that the 500 gig is reading as sda, then the secound command is sudo update-grub.
[06:24] <rinkukokiri> ZykoticK9, well, looks like they'll have to mark a dupe and geton it
[06:24] <nit-wit> 8second
[06:25] <jtannenbaum> both commands worked fine; thank you
[06:25] <nit-wit> jtannenbaum, reboot you should be set.
[06:25] <rinkukokiri> unless there's a way I can mark mine as a dupe
[06:25] <jtannenbaum> woo
[06:25] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, you could actually
[06:25] <crass_> ZykoticK9: I'm all about the CLI.. I'll give it a shot.  Do you know it mednafen runs ok on antique boxes?
[06:25] <crass_> if*
[06:26] <rinkukokiri> ZykoticK9, done.
[06:26] <jtannenbaum> I really should learn what I'm doing with grub and bios.. there probably ins't a uni course for that stuff
[06:26] <ZykoticK9> crass_, i doubt it's requirements are very high - it emulates several systems as a bonus
[06:28] <kennett> Can some1 help me fix the no sound problem on my laptop?
[06:28] <linux_hacks> kennett: What's the error?
[06:28] <bullgard4> !sound | kennett
[06:29] <gskellig> can someone help me fix unity? When I started it said it wasn't supported, but it was before. gfx card is also listed under unity's supported graphics cards.
[06:30] <rinkukokiri> gskellig, what's your video card?
[06:31] <gskellig> intel x4500GMA
[06:31] <gskellig> I had actually fixed this problem before, but it created a lot of other, much worse problems, so I just tried reinstalling ubuntu
[06:31] <gskellig> since ONCE before, installing 11.04 led to unity working fine
[06:31] <rinkukokiri> sounds like my install
[06:31] <rinkukokiri> lol
[06:32] <gskellig> thought maybe i'd get lucky again =/
[06:32] <gskellig> what laptop?
[06:32] <rinkukokiri> asus
[06:32] <MK``> When I updated to 11.04 it changed the way notifications appear in the upper right... how can I revert it to the old behavior?
[06:32] <gskellig> asus...?
[06:32] <brown_fern> jtannenbaum: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record  and   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_loader#Second-stage_boot_loader   might make good reading.
[06:32] <gskellig> let me guess, asus UL series
[06:32] <rinkukokiri> gskellig, i got an nvidia card but the problem here is with jockey
[06:33] <rinkukokiri> nope m70
[06:33] <yagoo> !rescue
[06:33] <jtannenbaum> danke
[06:33] <gskellig> ah
[06:33] <gskellig> I have an nvidia card also
[06:33] <gskellig> hybrid graphics. =/
[06:33] <gskellig> jockey?
[06:33] <rinkukokiri> arrrrgh
[06:33] <crass_> ZykoticK9: Can you remap the keys with mednafen?
[06:33] <rinkukokiri> yeah, it's reporting my drivers as enabled, not in use.. but i can use gl soooo... i dunno
[06:33] <sontek> Is there a way to reset ubuntu to a specific state? I upgrade and installed new packages and now I no longer have the graphic effects, its like old classic gnome
[06:34] <ZykoticK9> crass_, ya - it's something weird like ALT+1 or ALT+F1...
[06:34] <sontek> but glxgears launches just fine
[06:34] <gskellig> sounds like at least you know what you're doing rinkukokiri, I'm completely lost
[06:34] <crass_> ZykoticK9: it's probably on the man page huh
[06:34] <sontek> I get 60fps in glxgears
[06:34] <gskellig> unity worked the first time I installed ubuntu, I reinstalled and it didnt work anymore. Spent hours fixing it, and did but ended up breaking 8 things in the process
[06:34] <gskellig> so i started over again at square one.
[06:35] <sontek> its using the 'radeon' driver
[06:35] <crass_> oh, shart. it's totally not.
[06:35] <rinkukokiri> gskellig, the reason i said it sounded like my install:: i have dual monitor setup, for the last two days i haven't been able to open a second notification area or window list so i can manage windows on the second monitor... all until today when it just freaking worked.
[06:35] <honey> how can i enable my dpkg it is disable how can i enable?
[06:35] <ZykoticK9> crass_, or the web site?  try "h" for help maybe?  sorry I don't have any games/emus installed anymore -- no 3d graphics :(
[06:36] <gskellig> oh nvm =(
[06:36] <gskellig> yeah i was having issues with dual monitors on my asus as well, before i had all these problems
[06:36] <gskellig> window was just black and nothing would show up except the mouse and the menu bars
[06:36] <gskellig> if i dragged a window over, it would disappear and I would just see the mouse moving around
[06:36] <Dummy> hi, got some real newbie questions about ubuntu server
[06:37] <rinkukokiri> I had to also make a shortcut on the panel to do a compiz --reload   on the second monitor so i can have titlebars on my windows.
[06:37] <crass_> ZykoticK9: I dig. it's got a local help page installed, so i'll check that.  remarkably, the page looks like the help file from fceu. i wonder if it's a fork?
[06:37] <rinkukokiri> gskellig, that's probably because you have/had two different x servers
[06:37] <rinkukokiri> that's my setup currently
[06:37] <crass_> Dummy: Well, there's plenty of people here to help. Shoot.
[06:38] <gskellig> yeah i have a bunch of gfx issues
[06:39] <Dummy> right, I've only ever used Dos and Windows in my life. So I've installed ubuntu server and during the install added samba
[06:39] <gskellig> would really like to get this sorted out
[06:39] <rinkukokiri> i think there are a lot of ppl here with graphics issues..
[06:39] <rinkukokiri> it's sad
[06:39] <gskellig> lol
[06:39] <Dummy> first thing, when I do "ls" or "dir" at the prompt nothing shows up. so the system is empty?
[06:39] <Tadpole_Jackson> will 11 run on half a gig of ram?
[06:39] <Tadpole_Jackson> or should i be looking for something else?
[06:39] <rinkukokiri> Dummy, try a    ls -al
[06:40] <rinkukokiri> or a pwd
[06:40] <ZykoticK9> Dummy, "dir" is an alias (not a real command), ls is the real command to "list" directory contents
[06:40] <MrCartel> Anyone know how to have separate openbox configs?
[06:40] <Dummy> I see
[06:41] <rinkukokiri> Dummy, pwd will show your Present Working Directory
[06:41] <crass_> Dummy: ls -la means 'ls, with long-format, showing all files.'
[06:41] <rinkukokiri> so you have reference
[06:41] <Tadpole_Jackson> so, will 11.04 run on a 2ghz p4 + 512DDR or am i SOL?
[06:41] <Dummy> another thing, since I really struggle with the terminal, how the heck do I get a GUI running?
[06:41] <ZykoticK9> Dummy, by default your home folder (especially on server) would probably have no files/folders, except hidden - thus "ls -a" should show stuff.
[06:41] <Dummy> thanks for all the advice guys
[06:41] <JinKazama> why if I connected to a wireless connection and then when I try to change my connection to another wireless, it doesn't allow me to connect and if I tried to connect back to the old one, it prevents
[06:42]  * chickadee flutters onto a branch and sits for a bit to observe the ebb & flow of the channel
[06:42] <ZykoticK9> Dummy, if you want a GUI - install desktop instead of server...  really the best answer.
[06:42] <crass_> Tadpole_Jackson: I'm running xubuntu 11.04 on an old POS antique school computer that I bought off of a junkie for $25. It'll work, trust me.
[06:42] <JinKazama> while in the same time, my iPhone works perfect on both connections
[06:42] <rinkukokiri> Dummy, to get a gui, you would probably want to download ubuntu-desktop and install that
[06:42] <JinKazama> and also my embathy doesn't connect
[06:42] <rinkukokiri> whoops, looks like some1 beat me to it
[06:42] <Dummy> can desktop act as a file server?
[06:42] <JinKazama> do anyone knows what's goin' on with my Ubuntu or what do I have to do to fix this?
[06:42] <gskellig> can someone help me fix unity? When I started it said it wasn't supported, but it was before. gfx card is also listed under unity's supported graphics cards.
[06:42] <Apple_Cat> This is really cool, the notification script sends any hilights to libnotify and then a cool little notification pops up
[06:42] <ZykoticK9> Dummy, desktop can do anything server can do
[06:43] <rinkukokiri> Dummy, sure, it'll just have a bit more overhead with the gui an all but you prolly won't notice it
[06:43] <JinKazama> anyone here?
[06:43] <Dummy> perhaps that's my best option then, the terminal is a pretty steep learning curve
[06:43] <Dummy> thanks for all the info guys
[06:43] <rinkukokiri> yeap
[06:43] <crass_> Dummy: What kind of file server are you trying to run? You should probably install Vanilla Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu instead.
[06:44]  * rinkukokiri wants chocolate ubuntu
[06:44]  * crass_ drools.... mmmm, chocolate Ubuntu....
[06:44] <yfk> is there a way to use linux to recover a .docx password?
[06:45] <crass_> with *nix, anything is possible.
[06:45] <brown_fern> Dummy: Bash Guide for Beginners and The Linux System Administrators' Guide at http://tldp.org/guides.html    The Linux Documentation Project.
[06:45] <rinkukokiri> yfk, you /do know/ you can just open .docx files with 7zip right?
[06:45] <crass_> Dummy bailed.
[06:45] <brown_fern> I am slow :-(
[06:45] <crass_> brown_fern: and zsh is better anyway ;)
[06:45] <tlhonmey> yfk: docx is a zip container.  And yes, there are zip password crackers available.
[06:47] <tlhonmey> So, I've just got my hands on a machine with an Intel Pentium G620 BX80623G620 Processor.  Latest 32 bit alternate will boot, but then can't access the CD drive to install from.  amd64 version doesn't boot, liveCD drops to initram.
[06:47] <brown_fern> crass: If I were honest, I'd have to admit that I don't spend as much time in any shell/terminal as I should, be that bash or otherwise. :)
[06:47] <yfk> rinkukokiri, how the hell would I know that?! thanks
[06:47] <crass_> tlhonmey: Bad CD drive?
[06:48] <rinkukokiri> yfk, dunno.. :D
[06:48] <crass_> brown_fern: I used to be able to work wonders with zsh, but now i've gotten lazy. I feel where you're coming from, there.
[06:48] <tlhonmey> crass_: It's brand new.  And the 32 bit installer boots, but then can't mount the CD.
[06:48] <rinkukokiri> yfk, it'll be just a bit unnerving when you realize the entirety of the document is stored as XML data
[06:49] <tlhonmey> crass_: I was hoping somebody could tell me if I needed the intel 64 bit version for that series of processors.
[06:49] <JinKazama> why if I connected to a wireless connection and then when I try to change my connection to another wireless, it doesn't allow me to connect and if I tried to connect back to the old one, it prevents
[06:49] <JinKazama> while in the same time, my iPhone works perfect on both connections
[06:49] <crass_> tlhonmey: weird. try a different flavor of ubuntu maybe, just to see if it works.
[06:49] <JinKazama> do anyone knows what's goin' on with my Ubuntu or what do I have to do to fix this?
[06:49] <crass_> tlhonmey: or maybe try an older version.
[06:50] <brown_fern> crass: I could never work wonders, but I was once a lot better with commands than I am now, it's sad really.
[06:50] <tlhonmey> crass_: I tried Mint 10, it bails to initramfs, as does 9.04 amd64.
[06:50] <perscitus> qin,  i figured out the problem
[06:51] <yfk> rinkukokiri, can I use this http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/p7zip-full/download ?
[06:51] <honey> my dpkg is locked how can i enable is there any body who can help me
[06:51] <qin> perscitus: Hem? Tell me.
[06:51] <rinkukokiri> yfk actually i have a doc open in archive manager right now... I
[06:51] <JinKazama> why if I connected to a wireless connection and then when I try to change my connection to another wireless, it doesn't allow me to connect and if I tried to connect back to the old one, it prevents
[06:51] <JinKazama> while in the same time, my iPhone works perfect on both connections
[06:51] <JinKazama> do anyone knows what's goin' on with my Ubuntu or what do I have to do to fix this?
[06:51] <perscitus> qin,  Power cable wasnt plugged in all the way. doh
[06:51] <crass_> brown_fern: I once wrote a zsh script to organize all my music, cuz the renamer that was packaged with xfce segfaulted on me *one time* ... I was hopped up on a bunch of speed though, and that sounds like a good idea when you're gakked out of your head.
[06:52] <yfk> so I can use the cli 7z with the graphical archive manager?
[06:52]  * yfk needs to think every time he does something with Linux
[06:52] <perscitus> qin, one could say, monitor didnt have the power for higher resolutions.
[06:52] <tlhonmey> honey: Usually the easiest way to clear that is to reboot.
[06:52] <rinkukokiri> yfk, i have rar, unrar and 7zip-full installed via synaptic
[06:53] <crass_> yfk: if you install the 7zip package, it'll work with the gui archive manager.
[06:53] <qin> perscitus: Seriously, that would take a bit time to take into account. Nice ;)
[06:53] <rinkukokiri> s/7zip-full/p7zip-full/
[06:53] <perscitus> qin,  But whats funny is that Windows obviously has more tolerance for such issues.
[06:54] <honey> tlhonmey>how can i reboot that
[06:54] <crass_> I can't even use windows anymore.
[06:54] <ZykoticK9> honey, they mean reboot the computer
[06:54] <crass_> I just get angry at the fact that it's such a kludgy POS
[06:54] <perscitus> crass_,  im 98% windows now. was 98% ubuntu but i hate having to fix it.
[06:55] <ZykoticK9> perscitus, there are other gnu/linux distros that require a lot less fixing.
[06:55] <perscitus> crass_,  thats what i think about ubuntu actually. Windows 7 always worked for me. never had a major issue with it
[06:55] <mykal> hi all. any method of sorting files via command line. have a huge folder full of files, they are all well named. what
[06:55] <crass_> perscitus: I almost never have to fix my xubuntu box.
[06:55] <perscitus> ZykoticK9,  nope. tried them all
[06:56] <mykal> i want to do, is auto sort them into folders
[06:56] <mykal> kind of like find and match
[06:56] <kennett> ubottu: I tried those links and still can't get any sound.
[06:56] <crass_> oh ubottu, you crack me up, you mechanized lil' fart.
[06:56] <kennett> linux_hacks: I don't have any sound.
[06:57] <gskellig> can someone help me fix unity? When I started it said it wasn't supported, but it was before. gfx card is also listed under unity's supported graphics cards.
[06:57] <chickadee> @Tadpole Jackson: Have you tried DamnSmall Linux or CrunchBang ?
[06:57] <mykal> kennett, what you may find is that alsamixer is turned all the way down, happens to me on some new installs
[06:57] <yfk> it says "archive type not supported " any idea?
[06:57] <mykal> ! alsamixer
[06:57] <qin> mykal: find . -name pattern -exec cp /folder {} ; more neatty stuff in script
[06:57] <crass_> chickadee: or Knoppix?
[06:58] <mykal> ! alsa-mixer
[06:58] <mykal> lol, ifail
[06:58] <crass_> !alsa-mixer
[06:58] <qin> !alsa
[06:58] <crass_> Doesn't work, mykal
[06:59] <crass_> Ah-hah!
[06:59] <qin> !amixer
[07:00] <tlhonmey> Well, never mind.  I guess there's no point to asking which version I need for this strangely behaving processor, since it seems there are only two available anymore...
[07:00] <kennett> mykal: It's not turned down.
[07:01] <mykal> kennett, in the alsamixer in the command line, does it have little 'm's under it
[07:01] <mykal> i nearly cut my won head of when i realised i had been staring at muted audo for 30 mins
[07:01] <rinkukokiri> yfk, try opening a terminal and sudo apt-get install rar unrar p7zip-full
[07:01] <rinkukokiri> then try opening it
[07:02] <kennett> mykal: there are 00 and MM
[07:02] <yfk> rinkukokiri, only rar wasn't installed
[07:02] <yfk> same error message
[07:03] <rinkukokiri> hrm...
[07:03] <yfk> I am able to extract the .xml with command line using 7z
[07:03] <yfk> BTW, what's the diff between 7z adn 7za?
[07:03] <mykal> kennett, well that sounds right. try turning them all to 80% odd, other than that, have you tried all available audio jacks?
[07:03] <yfk> *and
[07:03] <mykal> kennett, and get rid of the mm
[07:03] <mykal> *sssss
[07:04] <rinkukokiri> 7za is a stand alone exectuable
[07:04] <mykal> kennett, sorry, the 'm's
[07:04] <rinkukokiri> 7z is the full program
[07:05] <rinkukokiri> yfk, man 7za
[07:05] <kennett> mykal: how do I get rid of them?
[07:05] <yfk> rinkukokiri, both are "A file archiver with highest compression ratio"
[07:06] <arapaima> what's a good channel for textbooks?
[07:06] <gskellig> can someone help me fix unity? When I started it said it wasn't supported, but it was before. gfx card is also listed under unity's supported graphics cards.
[07:06] <yfk> but the description tells the difference :)
[07:07] <yfk> what should I do with the extracted files from the .xml
[07:07] <gskellig> brb
[07:07] <mykal> ones you have the relevant channell highlighted, hit the 'M' key to toggle mute
[07:07] <rinkukokiri> yfk the document data is in word/document.xml
[07:07] <mykal> kennett, ones you have the relevant channell highlighted, hit the 'M' key to toggle mute
[07:08] <rinkukokiri> yfk, i was trying to find a reference to 'password' or 'security' but it's apparently not that simple
[07:08] <rinkukokiri> yfk, in the mean time... http://www.openwall.com/passwords/microsoft-word
[07:09] <rinkukokiri> they all look like they're paid for though :(
[07:09] <rinkukokiri> and win 32 for that matter
[07:10] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, thus OT for this channel
[07:10] <yfk> rinkukokiri, the only linux one there only opens 97/2000
[07:10] <rinkukokiri> actually... http://www.password-crackers.com/crack/guaword.html#versions
[07:11] <PIn> guys type in , in the terminal "sudo shutdown -h 0" to see a hiden feature of ubuntu, Its AWESOME! omg
[07:11] <rinkukokiri> files using new Office XP/2003/2007/2010 encryption with keys 128-256 bit long.
[07:11] <rinkukokiri> Free v. 0.9
[07:11] <rinkukokiri> 	
[07:11] <rinkukokiri> YES (only simple files)
[07:11] <rinkukokiri> 	
[07:11] <FloodBot1> rinkukokiri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:11] <rinkukokiri> sorry FloodBot1
[07:13] <yfk> rinkukokiri, thanks man!
[07:13] <mykal> kennett,
[07:13] <mykal> kennett, any luck???
[07:14] <kennett> mykal: Some luck, my headphone jack doesn't work but my speakers do at least.
[07:15] <rinkukokiri> yfk  np man!
[07:15] <blvnfsm> hello. i'm having a problem mounting a hard drive. i'm working on a friend's computer and trying to recover his data. i boot ubuntu live from a disk and go into the command line. i try 'sudo fdisk -l' and nothing happens. i tried sfdisk as well and still nothing. when i try 'sudo cfdisk -P r' it says "FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive." any idea what the problem is?
[07:15] <mykal> kennett, yeah, that is a problem i have had as well. headphone jack on the front right. never got that one fixed sorry. i usually just plug them into the back or the headphone jack on the speakers. same for mic if needed
[07:15] <chickadee> Hello everyone, is anyone available to help me format an external USB hd please? I am running Ubuntu 5.0 on a live disc.
[07:16] <tlhonmey> blvnfsm: If you're trying to recover a failed disk, start by making a bitwise copy of it with ddrescue.  Otherwise you might destroy what's left of the data with your recovery attempts.
[07:16] <rinkukokiri> blvnfsm, does the drive show up in bios???  (i'm asking because I do think the disk is completely SOL)
[07:16] <mykal> chickadee, if you can detect the drive, just right click and select format, then whatever options
[07:16] <tlhonmey> s/might/will probably/
[07:17] <rinkukokiri> ubuntu 5?????    wow
[07:17] <kennett> mykal: It's a laptop so there is only one headphone jack. :{
[07:17] <blvnfsm> tlhonmey and rinkukokiri: it may be that it's just dead. good idea to check for it in the bios. thanks, not sure why i didn't try that first
[07:17] <mykal> kennett, ah, i see, but the speakers on the lappy work
[07:18] <kennett> mykal: Yup. Thank you so much.
[07:18] <rinkukokiri> blvnfsm, next try I would say check smart data (if available)
[07:19] <Raikia> Has anyone here successfully set up trac 0.12 with SVN on Maverick?
[07:19] <mykal> kennett, np. gluck with the headphone jack
[07:19] <chickadee> @rinkukokiri: meh, it was the quickest version I had lying around. :)
[07:19] <rinkukokiri> ubottu should learn some things about smartmon
[07:20] <rinkukokiri> chickadee, lol :D
[07:20] <kennett> mykal: Thanks I'm gonna keep looking around for an answer.
[07:21] <chickadee> so i've tried fdisking the /dev/sdb1 and going through the list of menu commands, but without proper knowlege of what the commands do, I am not 100% sure what to do with regards to properly formatting and "zeroing" the drive.
[07:22] <chickadee> I've also tried zeroing the drive using the dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M command, but that also didn't work.
[07:22] <chickadee> i tried cfdisk but it gave me errors
[07:23] <rinkukokiri> chickadee,  are you sure you want to 'full zero'  the drive?? will a simple format suffice?
[07:23] <chickadee> so i tried sfdisk but that seemed to provide closer details of what I was looking for, but still no cigar.
[07:24] <chickadee> @rinkukokiri: I want to do a full zero of the drive to be /absolutely sure/ it is reset completley to original factory defaults.
[07:24] <mykal> chickadee, are you sure simply using GUI under, System, Administration, Disk Utility wont get it done for you. It's pretty comperhensive
[07:24] <chickadee> @mykal: I'll try that...
[07:25]  * chickadee brb's
[07:25] <rinkukokiri> mykal, chickadee is using ubuntu 5.  is 'disk utility' there?
[07:25] <tlhonmey> Disk utility was not available under ubuntu 5.
[07:25] <mykal> rinkukokiri, woah, sorry mate, missed that
[07:25] <tlhonmey> gparted was if he can install it.
[07:26] <mykal> chickadee, sorry mate, missed the v5 thing
[07:26] <chickadee> i tried using Gparted as well, but it kept hanging my desktop. :S
[07:26] <chickadee> @mykal: np, guy! :)
[07:27] <iszak> chickadee, why such an old version of ubuntu?
[07:27] <mykal> chickadee, so i guess your stuck for a different live cd, newer one
[07:27] <Ascavasaion> I am trying to install Flash 10, and have installed Flashplugin-nonfree and Flashplugin-installer.  But when I access websites with Flashplayer components it says it is not installed.  I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and Firefox.
[07:27] <tlhonmey> chickadee: Hanging your desktop?  That's... odd...  Although, depending on the age of the machine it might take it a little bit to scan all the drives.
[07:27] <mykal> Ascavasaion, chrome ftw
[07:28] <tlhonmey> Ascavasaion: That should have worked...  Did you restart Firefox after you installed them?
[07:28] <MrCartel> Is the colon an invalid char for openbox menu.xml?
[07:28] <rinkukokiri> chickadee, this may help you.. step by step.. http://www.ehow.com/how_1000631_hard-drive-linux.html
[07:28] <Kamilion> Howdy all. I've got a AMD E-350 with a Radeon HD 6310. I'm trying to get it to work on Maverick 10.10, but I can't get rid of this "AMD UNSUPPORTED HARDWARE" watermark in the corner.
[07:28] <Ascavasaion> tlhonmey: YEs.
[07:28] <chickadee> tlhonmey: I do not have a HD inside the machine I am running Ubuntu 5 on. :) It is running Live from the disc.
[07:28]  * chickadee *checks rinkukokiri's url out*
[07:28] <chickadee> brb's
[07:29] <Ascavasaion> tlhonmey: Okay, I will remove them and reinstall them
[07:29] <tlhonmey> chickadee: Ubuntu 5 had issues running live occasionally.  How much memory do you have?
[07:30] <Klavier> how can i reset ps/2 port. my ps2 keyboard locked and not working
[07:30] <mykal> Kamilion, watermark??? really???? kk then, have you tried just heading to the ubuntu software center and using the free ati drivers there, if applicable
[07:30] <Klavier> iam using another usb keyboard
[07:30] <Klavier> can reset ps2 port without restart pc
[07:31] <Kamilion> mykal: yes. That's why I have the watermark.
[07:31] <ZykoticK9> Klavier, i think you need to restart your PC, PS/2 Keyboards are not hot pluggable in anyway (should never be unplugged from a running machine actually)
[07:31] <Kamilion> I can't seem to get any newer ATI drivers to work either
[07:31] <Kamilion> I think they want kernel 2.6.38, bit 10.10 has 2.6.35
[07:32] <Kamilion> Can't run natty because the ROS packages for it arn't complete yet
[07:32] <Klavier> ZykoticK9,  i didnt unplugged it
[07:32] <Klavier> it locked and not working
[07:32] <Klavier> i dont want to restart
[07:32] <Klavier> is there another way?
[07:33] <Kamilion> Klavier: Unplug the ps2 connector and plug it back in to reset the keyboard's processor.
[07:33] <tlhonmey> Ascavasaion: I'm runing 10.04 on this machine at the moment, and all it needed was to have one of the Flash 10 packages installed.
[07:33] <tlhonmey> Klavier: replug it?  That's about all I can think of.
[07:33] <tlhonmey> ZykoticK9: Modern ones are.  Anything over about 14 years old though you can burn out the port by unplugging it while it's running.
[07:33] <Kamilion> Klavier: if the host side is locked up, nothing you can do but reboot.
[07:33] <Ascavasaion> tlhonmey: I thought so as well... so I uninstalled it through synaptic, and am busy reinstalling it as we speak.
[07:34] <Kamilion> ZykoticK9: They're not considered hot pluggable because if a PS/2 Device doesn't exist at poweron, the bios will ignore the port and plugging in a keyboard/mouse later will not initialize the port. Electrically, it can be hotplugged without issue.
[07:34] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys so whats with all this stuff about the new ubuntu release.. i read they made the main desktop just like the mini netbook version???
[07:34] <mykal> Kamilion, not sure if this will work, but looks like it was fixing 5XXX when they where limited support
[07:34] <mykal> http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?19875-Unsupported-Hardware-watermark
[07:34] <Cpt_Zyph> is this true or just some jaded reviews..
[07:35] <ZykoticK9> Kamilion, tlhonmey - I'll take both your words for it - i'm not using a PS/2 anymore, but I don't think I'd be willing to try it either ;)
[07:35] <mykal> Cpt_Zyph, its called unity, it's all true, and i would download the live cd and have a crack urself ;')
[07:36]  * chickadee afk's until she finishes with rinkukokiri's url. Then she will get back to you all with your questions. :)
[07:36] <Kamilion> mykal: Thanks. Found another thread in that forum that looks like it may help.
[07:36] <Cpt_Zyph> hum... well i have a netbook but after trying the old netbook release i liked the normal version and installed that ...
[07:36] <mykal> Cpt_Zyph, they are now the same version, and its still very new. im sure it will become more polished in 11.10
[07:36] <Kamilion> mykal: "I installed ati driver from git through xorg-edgers."  -- Know any instructions/howtos on this topic?
[07:36] <Ascavasaion> tlhonmey: It worked :)  Simply uninstalling and reinstalling it worked. :)
[07:36] <Cpt_Zyph> mykal im starting to think maybe i dont want to do an upgrade or is there something else about it that sets it aside.. or some articles as to why they made these changes??
[07:37] <gskellig> aha
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> i have also heard that its got some memory leaks or dose
[07:37] <gskellig> the 4th install went the same as the first! unity is fixed by default with no problems!
[07:37] <mykal> Cpt_Zyph, you can choose 'classic' n login im pretty sure
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> does not run quite the same or as smoth as the older version
[07:37] <Kamilion> I don't mind pulling in a couple PPAs as long as I've got something to follow.
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> whats that exactly?? classic log in?
[07:37] <mykal> Kamilion, never done that mate, not sure
[07:38] <ZykoticK9> Cpt_Zyph, classic = gnome2
[07:38] <Kamilion> Thanks.
[07:38] <Cpt_Zyph> i like to try them all regardless and stay upt o speed with the trends.. i did like that about my fedora releases as they always seemed to be quite current
[07:38] <Kamilion> well, some new stuff to go google then.
[07:38] <rinkukokiri> Kamilion, advising someone to unplug a non hot-pluggable device isn't usually standard protocol... epically in this channel.
[07:39] <mykal> Cpt_Zyph, i think it's a little more gpu heavy. this machine flat refused unity and defaulted to gnome 2
[07:40] <Cpt_Zyph> hummmm
[07:40] <Cpt_Zyph> i have a dell mini vostro
[07:41] <skumara> when i'm using ubuntu LTS 10.04 my laptop temperature is 45 to 55 degree celcius. But in natty temperature jump to 70 celcius even in gnome classic. Anyone has similar problem?
[07:41] <Kamilion> Restarting PS/2 devices usually won't cause damage due to the fact that modern keyboard controllers in southbridges tend to have more robust I/O lines built into them which are harder to damage than those of older ISA/PCI controllers.
[07:41] <rinkukokiri> This feature is highly dependent on the computer's BIOS. Because
[07:41] <rinkukokiri> PS/2 hotplug is not in the PS/2 specification, some PS/2 controllers may not
[07:41] <rinkukokiri> correctly handle "hotplugging" of a device, and some may short out devices.
[07:41] <rinkukokiri> This new driver does nothing special to accommodate hotplug other than
[07:41] <rinkukokiri> ignore initialization errors.
[07:41] <FloodBot1> rinkukokiri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:41] <Kamilion> I've fried a couple 486s.
[07:41] <Flannel> skumara: Are you sure you're using 10.04?  That didn't have a GNOME classic.
[07:41] <Kamilion> Never anything pentium or above.
[07:42] <Flannel> rinkukokiri: Please stop pasting large things in the channel.  Use pastebin.
[07:42] <gskellig> how do you fry a 486
[07:42] <Kamilion> Basically, the modern chipsets protect their PS/2 ports the same way the USB ports are protected. Because both are in the same southbridge chip now.
[07:42] <skumara> Flannel, gnome classic in natty. I mean natty causes my laptop to heat up compared to lucid.
[07:42] <gskellig> is that why modern computers have PS2 ports still?
[07:42] <chickadee-afk> @Flannel: What is "pastebin" ?
[07:43] <Flannel> !paste | chickadee-afk
[07:43] <rinkukokiri> sorry if 'pasting large things' in channel is worse than telling someone to unplug a non hot pluggable device Flannel ...
[07:43] <gskellig> wow that was lightning fast flannel
[07:43] <gskellig> I had typed !p when you had it finished
[07:44] <silv3r_m00n> hi there , I am planning to do a fresh installation of ubuntu 11.04 , I have another ext4 partition which has some backup data , can I select that partition for the /home during installtion without disturbing the existing data ? (ubuntu would be installed on the main ext4 partition)
[07:45] <Flannel> silv3r_m00n: Yeah, you can install "around" a home partition
[07:45] <rinkukokiri> Kamilion, given it's only a keyboard, still the specification does not allow hotplugging. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS/2_connector#Hotplugging
[07:45] <chickadee-afk> Wow! that is a cool tool! :d
[07:45] <chickadee-afk> :d
[07:45] <chickadee-afk> :D
[07:45] <chickadee-afk> (now if only i can emote properly! >.< ' )
[07:46] <sipior> rinkukokiri: the rest of us have moved on. feel free to continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:46] <IdleOne> silv3r_m00n: make sure to uncheck the format box or that data will be lost
[07:46] <silv3r_m00n> Flannel: I have 2 ext4 partitions , on 1 I have ubuntu 9.10 and on 2 I have backup data , I will install ubuntu 11.04 on partition 1 and want to put /home on partition 2 , so would the existing data on partition 2 be ok ?
[07:46] <silv3r_m00n> IdleOne: ok
[07:47] <rinkukokiri> sipior, no need to continue... the facts have been presented
[07:47]  * sipior rolls his eyes
[07:48] <Kamilion> I'm not going to argue any further, but implimentations of specifications can change or improve. *shrug*
[07:49] <sipior> Kamilion: seriously. drop it.
[07:49] <Kamilion> or what? You'll argue with me more? *shrug* I don't really care.
[07:50] <Ionic> Hi. Does linux-image-2.6.38-8 give me kernel 2.6.38.8, or is it just some wierd naming? Also, why am I getting 2.6.38.2 when installing linux-source, if .8 is the newest version and linux-image does also give you -8, apparently
[07:52] <mrkrrtft> hi folks.
[07:54] <mrkrrtft> I'm having problems getting 11.04 to connect  to the Verizon 3G hotspot on my DroidX.  It worked on 10.10, but not on 11.04.  It's using WPA PSK, and 11.04 is asking for the WPA key which I type in.  It then continues to prompt for they key. Yes it is correct. :) .... I'm not sure what logs to look at to know what the error is.  Any ideas?
[07:56] <mrkrrtft> Can anyone help?'m having problems getting 11.04 to connect  to the Verizon 3G hotspot on my DroidX.  It worked on 10.10, but not on 11.04.  It's using WPA PSK, and 11.04 is asking for the WPA key which I type in.  It then continues to prompt for they key. Yes it is correct. :) .... I'm not sure what logs to look at to know what the error is.  Any ideas?
[07:56] <vanquish349> how would i make a bash script run another bash script
[07:56] <sipior> mrkrrtft: might have a look in daemon.log
[07:57] <ZykoticK9> vanquish349, same as running any other command (although you'd need the full path, if the script isn't in your $PATH)
[07:58] <vanquish349> ZykoticK9: ok
[07:58] <gskellig> mrkrrtft, try #cyanogenmod, they give a lot of android help, and i know some people there have droidX's
[07:58] <mrkrrtft> sipior: nothing in it.  I remembered something about dmesg from years ago, so I typed it.  I see "wlan0: direct probe to macaddress (try 1/3) to (try 3/3) and then "timed out"
[07:58] <gskellig> i have a droidX as well, and it tethers perfectly to my 11.04 laptop
[07:59] <mrkrrtft> gskellig: Thanks... I'll try that.
[07:59] <mrkrrtft> gskellig: are you rooted?  I"m using the stock OTA 2.3 GB that just came out
[07:59] <Jordan_U> vanquish349: Just use the path to the script.
[07:59] <gskellig> you updated with the OTA? not with an unofficial update?
[08:00] <gskellig> gingerbread broke the traditional tethering for me. I think it had to do with being rooted. I have to either pay for the hotspot or use USB tether now. (wifi tether without paying wasn't illegal before btw)
[08:00] <mrkrrtft> gskellig: yep.  I wanted to see what the offical release was like.  I know I can always SBF back to 2.3.340 and then upgrade.
[08:00] <speakman> I'm stuck at an NFS mount failing to mount at boot. It says "Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery". But nothing works! And I can't get it to boot!
[08:00] <gskellig> if you got the OTA straight from verizon you should be fine. Also if you pay for the hotspot you should also be fine.
[08:01] <gskellig> I DO know for a fact that the rooted wifi tether apps in the market stopped working with 2.3 (OTA or unofficial)
[08:01] <ZykoticK9> speakman, you could "recovery console" and remove the NFS from your fstab?
[08:01] <gskellig> good luck either way
[08:01] <mrkrrtft> gskellig: argh.... I didn't know you had to pay for it..... I think I may downgrade back to froyo so I can use barnacle again... that worked with 11.04
[08:01] <mrkrrtft> nothing else worked though
[08:01] <mrkrrtft> thanks gskellig
[08:02] <gskellig> yeah mrkrrtft, barnacle/wifi tether broke with 2.3, stupid verizon. however PDAnet with USB tether still works
[08:03] <speakman> ZykoticK9: recovery console also halts on failing nfs mount
[08:03] <Jordan_U> jtannenbaum: Run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" in both your Ubuntu installs and make sure that in each install you select only the drive corrosponding to that install as an install device for grub. That way you will never have an install of grub looking for its files on another drive (just using grub-install is not enough as the grub-pc packaging runs grub-install itself whenever it is upgraded).
[08:03] <ZykoticK9> speakman, really?  wow, I figured it would start without trying to mount any NFS stuff.  sorry, I have no idea.  Best of luck!
[08:05] <MK``> When I updated to 11.04 it changed the way notifications appear in the upper right... how can I revert it to the old behavior?
[08:05] <speakman> ZykoticK9: in the best of worlds. Unfortently that's not the case :(
[08:05] <Ionic> Hm yeah
[08:06] <sipior> speakman: this is the root volume that fails to mount, i assume?
[08:06] <Ionic> Getting the source of linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic-pae it says 2.6.38.2 in the Makefile
[08:06] <speakman> but - if pressing S or M worked, there wouldn't be any problems. But it doesn't!
[08:06] <Ionic> Oh my, I guess I'll never understand Ubuntu *shrugs*
[08:06] <Ionic> Thanks though
[08:06] <speakman> sipior: nope, it's just a global storage (say NAS)
[08:07] <ZykoticK9> MK``, i highly doubt you can revert to the old behaviour.  I certainly could be wrong.  Good luck.
[08:07] <speakman> Do it has to do with me using USB keyboard?
[08:08] <sipior> speakman: try booting from a live cd, and change the mount type to soft (at least temporarily)
[08:09] <Bakerconspiracy> anyone know a good virtual machine to get started with?
[08:09] <tlhonmey> Virtualbox is pretty simple and useful.
[08:09] <mikey_> can anyone help me with my install of ubuntu 11.04
[08:09] <helplearn> After changing the write permissions to /tmp (so that I don't get the sanity-check error) things work fine but, unfortunately, such changes are lost the next time I reboot and I have to issue chmod from the console everytime I reboot, How can I change the write permissions to /tmp and make those changes persist in the future?
[08:09] <Coke> Ello. Is there some UI-integration for entering SSH passwords and/or passphrases for the key?
[08:09] <tlhonmey> mikey_: Probably.
[08:10] <Bakerconspiracy> I'll take a look tlhonmey thanks
[08:10] <josmala> Does anyone else have problems with compiz & pyglet combination?
[08:10] <Coke> For instance, if I execute ssh user@remotehost the prompt will appear in X instead of console.
[08:10] <tlhonmey> Bakerconspiracy: The PUEL version is *far* more useful than the OSE version, provided you're not using it commercially.  Read the license.
[08:11] <Coke> I'm guessing ssh-agent is used in Ubuntu?
[08:11] <mykal> mikey_, just ask mate, whats the problem
[08:12] <Gorlak> yes coke, i have seen ssh-agent in ubuntu, used by it too
[08:12] <speakman> sipior: good point!
[08:12] <chickadee-afk> Out of curiosity, in case I wanted to add a level of security to my storage HD while having it readible (?) by Linux as well as an XP machine, what would be the best way to encrypt it ?
[08:12] <mikey_> i installed ubuntu 11.04 and when i rebooted it up it comes up saying no prefix and im stuck on grub
[08:12] <Bakerconspiracy> tlhonmey I probably gotta build that online right?
[08:12] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk, try truecrypt, i found it pretty good for that purpose
[08:12] <tlhonmey> Bakerconspiracy: They have deb packages for it at Virtualbox.org.
[08:12] <chickadee-afk> Sweet! Thanks, Gorlak! :D I'll try it out!! ^^\/
[08:13] <Gorlak> yea, I used the same thing for a while
[08:13] <chickadee-afk> @Gorlak: does it have to be installed?
[08:13] <tlhonmey> You're just not supposed to use it commercially without buying a license.  (It's quite a reasonable price though.)
[08:13] <Gorlak> I had an external storage HD that i encrypted i used it for windows and linux
[08:13] <chickadee-afk> or can it be run remotely?
[08:13] <mykal> mikey_, how did you install?
[08:13] <Gorlak> yes, it does actually
[08:13] <Gorlak> its pretty simple for linux and windows though
[08:13] <chickadee-afk> sweet!
[08:13] <Gorlak> what you would prolly want though-
[08:13] <chickadee-afk> O.o ?
[08:13] <mikey_> through usb drive, its on a net book
[08:14] <helplearn> After changing the write permissions to /tmp (so that I don't get the sanity-check error) things work fine but, unfortunately, such changes are lost the next time I reboot and I have to issue chmod from the console everytime I reboot, How can I change the write permissions to /tmp and make those changes persist in the future?
[08:14] <mykal> mikey_, complete format?
[08:14] <Gorlak> is to read some stuff about it, then encrypt your external, with the file system set to NTFS so it can be read by both OSes
[08:14] <chickadee-afk> really? NTFS? o.o
[08:14] <mikey_> going off xp
[08:14] <Gorlak> well,
[08:15] <chickadee-afk> not Fat32?
[08:15] <mikey_> i did a complete format though
[08:15] <Gorlak> it has to be read by windows, so NTFS is going to be the file system,
[08:15] <Gorlak> I wouldnt use any FAT unless its a flash drive,
[08:15] <chickadee-afk> ah
[08:15] <chickadee-afk> @Gorlak: how come?
[08:15] <Gorlak> most flash drives use fat anyway but here is why
[08:15] <vanquish349> how would i make a bash script open another bash script in a new terminal
[08:15] <mykal> chickadee-afk, my bad mate, its a usb hard drive, will still be detected
[08:15] <chickadee-afk> o.O
[08:15] <Gorlak> not stable for long term, high storage needs
[08:16] <Jordan_U> helplearn: What sanity check error? What is the output of "ls -ld /tmp/" ? Can you pastebin your /etc/fstab?
[08:16] <ZykoticK9> mykal, "gnome-terminal -e foo" perhaps?
[08:16] <chickadee-afk> @mykal ?
[08:16] <Gorlak> doesnt support all the nice things NTFS does, IF you just wanted it to be used on linux I would say use the truecrypt and then format the drive EXT4
[08:16] <Gorlak> correction--
[08:16] <chickadee-afk> o.O
[08:17] <mykal> ZykoticK9, ???
[08:17] <vanquish349> how would i make a bash script open another bash script in a new terminal
[08:17] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk you format the drive NTFS, then you create a truecrypt file on it which will be just about the size of the whole drive, then when you mount that file as a drive letter, format that NTFS as well.
[08:17] <ZykoticK9> mykal, sorry - nic fail on my part
[08:17] <ZykoticK9> vanquish349,  "gnome-terminal -e foo" perhaps?
[08:17] <Gorlak> chieckadee-afk there are 2 file systems we are talking about =)
[08:17] <chickadee-afk> @Gorlak: Thanks! I will try to accomplish that! ^_^ ' \m/
[08:18] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk ok. good luck with it, there are plenty of guides, especially for truecrypt
[08:18] <Krause> good morning folks, got a question for ya
[08:18] <helplearn> Jordan_U: The sanity check error it gives when you boot into your system and /tmp doesn't have write permissions. The output of ls -ld /tmp is obviously such that only the owner has write permissions and the sticky bit is not set: I know how to change that and I do it, solving the error, the problem is that THE NEXT TIME I REBOOT things come back to where they started (no sticky bit, no write permissions,etc.).
[08:18] <vanquish349> ZykoticK9: ok
[08:18] <chickadee-afk> now should the Hex code I choose for NTFS be 86 or 87 ?
[08:18] <mykal> Gorlak, out of interest, wouldn't some sort of lvm be better for that, not that im great with this stuff
[08:18] <Gorlak> mykal for the external?
[08:19] <chickadee-afk> lvm ?
[08:19]  * chickadee-afk looks up truecrypt in the meantime
[08:19] <mykal> ah, true, not much point.
[08:19] <vanquish349> ZykoticK9: it says foo notfound
[08:19] <Krause> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 on a server to which I have no physical access and I want to use Python 2.7 instead of 2.6 (which is the default)
[08:19] <BiggFREE> Is kernel 2.6.38.10 stable ?
[08:19] <Gorlak> mykal for simplicity sake ( and you want that when you are dealing with encryption, as once the whole block is encrypted you must be careful not to damage the file or you could lose all the data)
[08:19] <Krause> is there an easy way to upgrade that single package, or what way should I go about it?
[08:19] <Gorlak> I would not recommend lvm for an external hard drive, that needs to be encrypted
[08:19] <qin> vanquish349: gnome-terminal -e echo foo
[08:19] <ZykoticK9> vanquish349, foo is something you replace - it's a variable.  so the script you want to run in place of "foo"
[08:20] <vanquish349> ZykoticK9: ohh lol
[08:20] <vanquish349> i am only just starting out with bash
[08:20] <red> Hello, does anyone know how to resolve this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2188345/unity-screwed.png -- the icons are there, but everything is black, when I mouseover the black area I get tooltips showing the hidden icons name
[08:20] <red> It had happened during last night, screen locked overnight and when I unlocked it, the icons were missing
[08:21] <mykal> vanquish349, the guys in #bash at freenode are always helpful if you want to master
[08:21] <Gorlak> red have you rebooted the machine?
[08:21] <red> I tried rebooting yes
[08:21] <Gorlak> red no joy?
[08:21] <red> Also tried changing icon theme, and tweaking Unity settings in compiz config settings manager
[08:21] <red> no joy
[08:21] <Gorlak> you use unity or gnome?
[08:21] <mykal> mikey_, um, perhaps just try reinstall???
[08:21] <red> Unity
[08:21] <red> default natty stuff
[08:22] <mykal> mikey_, just be sure to cross your fingers extra hard this time
[08:22] <red> havent tweaked much since it's my work computer
[08:22] <mikey_> i have 3 times already from flash drive
[08:22] <Gorlak> red meh i dont like unity if you were using gnome i would say reset your gnome profile
[08:22] <vanquish349> mykal: ohh lol didnt know about that
[08:22] <red> I like Unity over gnome :)
[08:22] <vanquish349> goodbye going there now
[08:22] <ghsh> red:that would be a bad .conf file  -- just dellete it or the .directory
[08:22] <chickadee-afk> @Gorlak: the version of Truecrypt to download -- would it be the Windows version or the Linux version ? and if Linux, which package?
[08:22] <chickadee-afk> :X
[08:22] <red> ghsh: I suppose I'll try
[08:22] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk you are using this on both windows and linux right?
[08:22] <chickadee-afk> i guess it would be the linux version
[08:22] <chickadee-afk> @Gorlak: yes
[08:23] <chickadee-afk> atm it is plugged into my linux box
[08:23] <chickadee-afk> my "bare bones" system
[08:23] <speakman> talking about Unity - are there any good keyboard shortcuts to know about?
[08:23] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk then you would need both, download the windows version and install it in windows, and download.. most likely since you are here you will need the debian one, it is actually an install script, sh
[08:23] <red> I removed the default super brings out app menu binding since it locks up the system for a good second or two while loading :p
[08:23] <Gorlak> red you could try to google 'reset unity desktop
[08:24] <Gorlak> red that might set things back to a fresh login once again
[08:25] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk you would need the standard linux one, either 32bit or 64 if you have 64bit linux
[08:26] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk the file you download you just right click set to run as program check mark, and then issue a command like sudo sh truecrypt-7.0a.tar.gz or whatever the file name ends up being
[08:26] <Gorlak> once you have downloaded the file from their website
[08:26] <clakes> blah... i've downloaded the 2.6.38-10 kernel... had to update menu.lst to get it shown in grub... then it just loads into tty
[08:26] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk there is also a truecrypt channel you can join too if you have any questions too
[08:27] <WarOp> Does Ubuntu 10.10 use gnome 3 just curious
[08:27] <WarOp> or is it only 11.04
[08:27] <IdleOne> neither
[08:28] <ZykoticK9> WarOp, 11.04 doesn't use Gnome3 either -- Fedora 15 does...
[08:28] <WarOp> Alright, so is it still gnome 2.24
[08:28] <BiggFREE> ZykoticK9 ... Is kernel 2.6.38.10 stable ?
[08:29] <strangr> u can get gnome3 from synaptic
[08:29] <ZykoticK9> BiggFREE, no idea?
[08:29] <ZykoticK9> strangr, NOT recommended - breaks unity for starters
[08:29] <BiggFREE> Thanks
[08:30] <red> gorlak: http://askubuntu.com/questions/35949/unity-sidebar-gone-black
[08:30] <red> found it
[08:30] <strangr> ZykoticK9, oh right
[08:30] <Gorlak> red heh feels good when you find it. i think it took me a year to find a solution to something i was looking for and one day i just did a random google for it and found it.
[08:31] <Gorlak> red did the reset work
[08:31] <Gorlak> ?
[08:31] <red> I was too fast to be happy :P
[08:31] <red> Saw it had been accepted and thought it must work
[08:31] <red> Ill go read about the bug, maybe there are some tricks there
[08:32] <Gorlak> red lol good luck with it, with that as a base maybe you could find out more information about it and how you can work around it
[08:32] <chickadee-afk> :D !
[08:32] <chickadee-afk> @Gorlak: REALLY?! :D
[08:32] <chickadee-afk> is it here on Freenode?
[08:33] <Guest23562> Does anyone want to exchange VPN?
[08:33] <Gorlak> yes, just join truecrypt
[08:33] <chickadee-afk> YAY!  \o/
[08:33] <chickadee-afk> TYSM, GUY!!
[08:33]  * chickadee-afk *does really happy dance*
[08:33] <Gorlak> lol
[08:34] <chickadee-afk> :3
[08:34] <Guest23562> Does anyone want to exchange VPN? pv me
[08:34] <ikonia> Guest23562: please don't ask for that
[08:35] <chickadee-afk> yeah dude, it's inappropriate. :p
[08:35] <Guest23562> ikonia> why?
[08:35] <chickadee-afk> same as stumbling in here and asking asl
[08:35] <chickadee-afk> :p
[08:35] <Cpt_Zyph> so may i ask .. what are some of the strong points about the recent new version of ubuntu???
[08:35] <ikonia> Guest23562: people don't want to give you vpn access
[08:35] <chickadee-afk> it's creepy, guy.
[08:36] <chickadee-afk> if you want to get your perv on, join a pervy channel elsewhere.
[08:36] <chickadee-afk> not here. :p
[08:36] <ikonia> chickadee-afk: stop it - there is no need for that
[08:36] <WarOp> Just curious, Looking into going to "Ubuntu 10.10", I found one called Ubuntu Studio 10.10 is it exactly the same as Ubuntu 10.10 with the exception of Preloaded Audio & Video software
[08:36] <Guest23562> wow creepy?
[08:36] <ikonia> Cpt_Zyph: have a look on ubuntu.com it introduces thew new version quite well
[08:37] <Guest23562> ok,take it easy
[08:37] <ikonia> Guest23562: lets move on please
[08:37] <WarOp> Use to use fedora and upgraded to fedora 15 and cant really stand gnome 3
[08:37] <ikonia> WarOp: how is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[08:37] <WarOp> my previous comment
[08:37] <ikonia> WarOp: it has no relevence
[08:38] <WarOp> is ubuntu 10.10 the same operating system as ubuntu studio 10.10 with the exception of the audio & video software preloaded
[08:38] <ikonia> WarOp: exactly the same, with a few kernel patches for things like real time clock
[08:39] <WarOp> Alrighty Thank You :)
[08:39] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, is ubuntu studio an official derivative?
[08:39] <nopf> hey people, so why does resume from hibernate (s2disk tried, but the normal method via button didn't work either iirc, maybe failed som other way) not work? dm-0 seems not to be there (something about 'give full path to ...') ... this is with encrypted home, hence encrypted swap on 11.04
[08:39] <ikonia> ZykoticK9: it used to be, I'm not sure anyone, I think so
[08:39] <poobird> does anyone think they could help me, im having hard time getting pptpd to work
[08:40] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, :) well thanks for clearing that up
[08:40] <Fudge> hi what would a 2mb bios_grub partition actually be, thought we installed grub to mbr, macbook with nataty
[08:41] <ikonia> Fudge: that's not created by ubuntu by default
[08:41] <ikonia> Fudge: the only reason you'd do that is because of gid partition tables
[08:41] <ikonia> Fudge: mac's use non MS dos partition tables, so don't use an mbr in the same way
[08:44] <Cpt_Zyph> well maybe i should ask.. is the new version of ubuntu more stable.. is there something about this new version on the back end thats nice.. i just read about some of the gnome gui things and the launcher thats about it
[08:47] <Guest99895> I've heard some bad things about 11.04
[08:52] <mykal> Guest99895, like???
[08:52] <nopf> oki. seems i have to run without using swap. not nice, but unavoidable atm... :/
[08:52] <crass`> xu 11.04 has been pretty good to me so far.
[08:53] <Guest99895> well I haven't tried it, just going by what I've heard
[08:53] <crass`> What have you heard?
[08:53] <Guest99895> just that it has a lot of bugs and unity isn't very good
[08:53] <tlhonmey> nopf: There's a program in the repository called swapd that will create swapfiles on the fly when needed.
[08:54] <Fudge> ikonia  its strictly an ubuntu machine so can safely remove that and install grub to sda?
[08:54] <ikonia> Fudge: no, not if you're still using EFI
[09:00] <nopf> tlhonmey: hm, yes, thanks for that hint. since i found only much swap keeps firefox from crashing
[09:01] <Fudge> whats EFI, we had lucid on ther eno worries, natty went on with no po=roblems but after killing lucid which must have been controlling grub its not coming to the party now
[09:01] <tlhonmey> nopf: No problem.  I use it quite a bit on thumb-drive installs where you don't really want to use swap unless absolutely necessary.
[09:03] <shentino> How do I move gdm to another terminal?  I stuck that FirstVT=12 thingy in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf but it refused to obey
[09:04] <abcdefgha> hi
[09:04] <kamel> how can i mark a bug in launchpad to affect a specific release of ubuntu
[09:04] <kamel> ?
[09:04] <Fudge> think its xorg that woudl control that
[09:07] <osmosis_paul> Good morning
[09:07] <osmosis_paul> somebody here use "arno firewall?"
[09:07] <tlhonmey> kamel: So far as I know there's a selector box there somewhere.  At least, there was the last time I reported a bug.
[09:07] <RevSpecies116> Ubuntu 10.04LTS, osmosis_paul ?
[09:11] <deployment> I'm new to ubuntu SMTP services. I would like to install a simple SMTP service (GUI controls would be nice)
[09:12] <osmosis_paul> RevSpecies116, what that's mean?, i just wanna know if someone know how to limit the ip access in this firewall
[09:12] <tlhonmey> deployment: Have you read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=230351 ?
[09:12] <osmosis_paul> somebody know how to limit the ip access with arno firewall????
[09:13] <deployment> tlhonmey
[09:13] <deployment> tlhonmey: nope, not yet ;)
[09:14] <tlhonmey> deployment: hmmm  it's not as useful as I thought it would be...  I know there was a howto around here somewhere.
[09:15] <tlhonmey> deployment: http://pccicla.blogspot.com/2007/02/ubuntu-smtp-server.html  No gui tools, but they're not really necessary for a simple smtp server.
[09:15] <rcmind> Good morning everyone
[09:15] <shomon> hi, how do I stop a service from starting up at, um, startup?
[09:16] <AdvoWork> i have an old server running 6.06lts, i know the distribution is outdated, and it will be replaced, but in the mean time, how would I go about updating my mysql version (server version: 5.0.22-Debian_0ubuntu6.06.15-log) to the latest?
[09:16] <shomon> so as not to have to do /etc/init.d/postgres stop each time I turn on the computer...
[09:16] <nopf> fine. now the system is totally borked
[09:18] <tlhonmey> shomon: Make the startup script in /etc/init.d non-executable.
[09:18] <shomon> aah thanks
[09:19] <tlhonmey> AdvoWork: You might or might not be able to without recompiling a *lot* of supporting libraries.  But, theoretically you grab the latest packages from mysql and install them.
[09:19] <nikhil_>  hi. i'm using firefox 4.0.1 on ubuntu natty 11.04 x64 with the rein theme (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/rein/). This is an awesome theme i would love to use, but the right click contextual menu text is the same colour as the menu (i.e. invisible) and only appears when i mouse-over. Anyone know how to fix this?
[09:19] <nikhil_> anyone do any minor firefox (config) hacks? i'm looking to change the colour of the text in a contextual menu in a custom theme...
[09:20] <AdvoWork> tlhonmey, why would i have to recompile a lot of things?
[09:20] <mkquist> so does the 11.04 live cd have more problems?
[09:20] <shomon> tlhonmey, do you mean group, user or owner executable? is chmod x-og enough?
[09:20] <mkquist> like does it not boot to a desktop?
[09:20] <chenhuaiyu> how beatiful
[09:21] <chenhuaiyu> i am chinese
[09:21] <tlhonmey> shomon: take the execute bit away from everyone and it's guaranteed to work.
[09:21] <shomon> okay will do
[09:21] <AdvoWork> and tlhonmey will this be the same for php also?
[09:21] <RevSpecies116> mkquist: Only what is listed on the following site: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes
[09:22] <tlhonmey> AdvoWork: because the newest mysql probably requires later versions of at least some libraries than you have available for 6.06.  So you'll have to upgrade the libraries to upgrade mysql.
[09:22] <mkquist> RevSpecies116: ty, ill check it out.. not booting to desktop on my laptop...
[09:22] <llutz> shomon: to enable/disable services, use "sysv-rc-conf" (needs to be installed)
[09:22] <tlhonmey> AdvoWork: and the versions you need are probably not available pre-compiled.
[09:22] <ghsh> nikhil_: should be easy
[09:22] <tlhonmey> AdvoWork: And yes, it'll probably be the same way with php.
[09:22] <nikhil_> ghsh, direction?
[09:23] <ghsh> nikhil_: let me install it
[09:23] <shomon> thanks llutz I used to use some command line thing in older distros
[09:23] <tlhonmey> AdvoWork: In my experience you'll be seriously time-ahead to start with upgrading the OS.
[09:23] <nikhil_> kk
[09:23] <nikhil_> ghsh, kk
[09:23] <llutz> shomon: theres update-rc.d too, but thats not recommended for it
[09:25] <ghsh> nikhil_: works for me
[09:25] <nikhil_> ghsh, firefox version, ubuntu version?
[09:26] <shomon> ok thanks llutz and tlhonmey for your help
[09:26] <m3asmi> can I use the UbuntuOne from mandriva ?
[09:26] <ghsh> nikhil_: 4.0.1 and 11.04
[09:26] <nikhil_> ghsh, 64bit?
[09:27] <nikhil_> sigh. its just a little colour problem :/
[09:27] <ghsh> nikhil_: on a reboot not this one at time -- other kernel
[09:28] <nikhil_> ghsh, found something that will probably help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=503508
[09:28] <osmosis_paul> Please somebody are using arno as firewall in Debian?
[09:29] <nalex> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. I'm googling since some days for this problem, though I haven't found any working solution. How can I disable the possibility to shutdown the system by using the offswitch in the panel?
[09:29] <mkquist> so thoughts on 'unity'?
[09:29] <mkquist> like, dont?
[09:29] <th^^> unity <3
[09:30] <mkquist> th^^: really?
[09:30] <th^^> really
[09:30] <mkquist> th^^: advantages?
[09:30] <th^^> just disable panel autohiding, set icon size to 32, perfect :)
[09:30] <mkquist> th^^: just asking? on a desktop machine...
[09:30] <tlhonmey> nalex:  Depends on your hardware.  It's probably a setting in the bios.
[09:30] <th^^> mkquist: i just find it stress free and mostly stays out of the way, apps in panel and quick search for apps, i kinda don't need/want anything more
[09:31] <th^^> simple
[09:31] <mkquist> th^^: ill have to keep an open mind... off the cuff, not sure any advantages are there... oh well, can always go back. =)
[09:31] <th^^> after using it for couple months it would be hard to go back to old desktop tbh
[09:32] <nalex> tlhonmey, I rather would like to make that button disappearing or invalid instead of going through the bios
[09:32] <tlhonmey> nalex:  Oh..  I thought you meant the physical switch on the machine's front panel.
[09:33] <nalex> nonono
[09:33] <tlhonmey> nalex: You should be able to simply remove the offending button from the panel.
[09:33] <llutz> osmosis_paul: why don't you ask in #debian?
[09:33] <roniez> Hey all got a question, when i do source /etc/nanorc it gives me BASH include unknown command, i have searched and googled and chcked forums, but i cannot find a solution, i bet its going to be something really stupid.
[09:33] <nalex> tlhonmey, the mashine is used by more than one user
[09:33] <tlhonmey> nalex:  And there is a gconf key that will lock the panel so nobody else can use it.
[09:34] <tlhonmey> nalex:  err... lock the panel so you can't add the button back.
[09:34] <llutz> roniez: why would you source nanorc into bash?
[09:34] <roniez> well
[09:34] <llutz> roniez: its a nano-config file, nothing for the shell
[09:34] <tlhonmey> nalex:  Not sure it's worth the bother, it already takes root privileges to shut down the system when other people are logged in.
[09:34] <roniez> hm ok
[09:35] <nalex> tlhonmey, every user has it's own home folder. Due that I cannot remove it just by one click
[09:35] <roniez> Ok thats what i get.
[09:35] <roniez>  as i said it must be something stupid.
[09:35] <roniez> its already working doh..
[09:35] <kamel> tlhonmey: i also used that selector box but it seems to be gone since half a year or so
[09:35] <nalex> tlhonmey, yes but sometimes nobody else is logged in. So it works pretty well for anyone
[09:35] <kamel> or it was moved
[09:36] <tlhonmey> nalex, you should be able to edit the default configuration for all users.  Unfortunately I don't know how off the top of my head.  Last I knew the directory it was in was called skel, but there have been changes since then.
[09:37] <tlhonmey> nalex: If nobody else is logged in, then why worry about them shutting down the machine?
[09:37] <vimix> what is ubuntu using as std logging service?
[09:38] <tlhonmey> nalex:  If it's a terminal server, then remote clients can't shut it down anyway...
[09:38] <llutz> vimix: rsyslogd
[09:38] <nalex> tlhonmey, because this single computer is actually 24 mashines. And they shall be avaiable 24 hours a day per ssh
[09:38] <nalex> no it's not tlhonmey
[09:38] <nalex> They can be used locally and per ssh
[09:39] <tlhonmey> nalex: I see...  They didn't used to be able to...  Guess I need to play with the terminal server again...
[09:40] <nalex> tlhonmey, the problem is not the remote clients. The problem is that that if they are used local , then they got the possibility to shut them down
[09:40] <_Rix> hello
[09:40] <_Rix> how do i remove fedora completely from my dual-boot
[09:40] <vimix> llutz: does logger(1) exist in ubuntu? (i've no (ubuntu)linux box here to test it)
[09:40] <_Rix> i am dual-booting ubuntu and fedora
[09:41] <llutz> !info logger
[09:41] <tlhonmey> nalex:  If you're concerned about that, you should probably lock up the server and replace that station with a remote client.
[09:41] <_Rix> hello ""
[09:41] <llutz> vimix: bsdutils   brings logger
[09:41] <tlhonmey> nalex:  Because you can disable the UI all you want, alt-sysrq-b will still reset the machine.
[09:42] <tlhonmey> nalex:  If you can type it on the console that is.
[09:43] <rileyp> how do i add repos to my diskless servers image
[09:43] <nalex> tlhonmey, yes but if somebody uses such methods he knows exactly that he should not shutdown the computer. If somebody presses shutdown instead logout though, it's a different thing.
[09:43] <thepentester> rileyp, cant
[09:43] <tlhonmey> nalex:  There's also a power switch and the threat of spilled coffee.
[09:44] <rileyp> the pentester what do you mean
[09:44] <nalex> tlhonmey, and I really don't want to discuss about the sense of such an action. All I'm asking for is a possibility to forbid the shutdown with the gnome interface
[09:44] <nalex> tlhonmey, I can control that with the acpi events
[09:44] <nalex> that's not the problem
[09:44] <tlhonmey> nalex:  and I'm thinking.  :)  I'm just making sure that's what you really need while I'm at it.
[09:44] <rileyp> Id like to add some repos to my diskless image how can I do that
[09:45] <rileyp> so it affects all clients
[09:45] <tlhonmey> nalex:  you could disable gdm on the console and have them log in in text mode and start X manually.  If it's done that way, they can't order a shutdown, only a logout...
[09:45] <nalex> tlhonmey, I really need it. I can only start those mashines local. And I don't want do go to uni during the weekend because somebody shut them down Friday everying
[09:45] <nalex> hmmm
[09:46] <rileyp> I know how to add packages and rebuild the image hjust want to add some gpgs and keyrings
[09:46] <tlhonmey> nalex:  which means, that the setting you're lookng for is probably somewhere in the gdm config.
[09:46] <nalex> not userfriendly enough tlhonmey . Don't want to tell some hundret people how to start X
[09:46] <nalex> I think in LTS it's called custom.conf
[09:47] <nalex> and I tried already "SecureShutdown" "AllowShutdown=false" and such stuff. All without effect
[09:47] <rileyp> custom.conf for me???
[09:47] <nalex> no rileyp
[09:47] <rileyp> ok
[09:47] <djazz> I can't get bluetooth working "out of the box" (applies to ubuntu and linuxmint) http://i.imgur.com/yeY0z.jpg :/ pls help
[09:47] <brian_11_04> Hi, I am currently installing ubuntu 11.04 desktop using my integrated video card (no problems).  After this is done I want to install my nvidia GT 240 video card.  I found a page with instructions on how to install the drivers for this particular video card (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1771806&highlight=nvidia+gt+240) and I'm wondering if this is just a matter of installing the new drivers with those instructions, th
[09:47] <acidflash__> tar -czf - /some/file | ssh host.name tar -xzf - -C /destination <-- would that be a good way to move 300,000+ files over lan?
[09:47] <vimix> llutz: hmm... i won't be able to install it on that image. (btw logger exists on debian, doesn't it?) so what is the std way writing to the system log files in ubuntu?
[09:47] <tlhonmey> nalex:  At one point there was a permissions editor that let you set what credentials were required for performing certain actions.
[09:48] <tlhonmey> nalex:  It seems to have disappeared from the menu...
[09:48] <nalex> pessulus?
[09:48] <llutz> vimix: package "bsdutils"  contains logger
[09:48] <llutz> !info bsdutils
[09:48] <llutz> vimix: it should be installed by default
[09:49] <vimix> llutz: ah, ok. thought that its not installed by default
[09:49] <llutz> !find /usr/bin/logger
[09:49] <tlhonmey> nalex:  I'm afraid your simplest solution is probably to log in an additional user on one of the ttys.  That should prevent them from shutting it down.
[09:50] <nalex> tlhonmey, actually I am at that point since a while. I just find it very very nasty as a solution
[09:50] <RenaKunisaki> how can I adjust the amount the volume is changed by using the volume control keys in Xfce?
[09:50] <chomping> guys, for apt-get, is there a way to see the contents of the package that I wanted to install?
[09:52] <tlhonmey> nalex:  I agree.  Unfortunately, as I'm sitting here, every tool I remember having an option to disable console shutdown is no longer available...
[09:52] <kv102t> anyone use postfix
[09:52] <tlhonmey> nalex:  Have you tried disabling execute on /sbin/shutdown?
[09:52] <llutz> chomping: dpkg -L <packagename>        after its being installed, else "apt-file list package "
[09:53] <llutz> !anyone | kv102t
[09:53] <chomping> llutz: thanks, let me try it.
[09:53] <nalex> tlhonmey, yes, absolutley no difference
[09:53] <tlhonmey> nalex:  I was afraid of that...  I wonder how gdm triggers it then...
[09:53] <nalex> tlhonmey, I guess it's not using that way to shut the computer down.
[09:53] <nalex> Some kind of mysterious xml I think
[09:54] <djazz> anyone here using bluetooth? :P
[09:54] <RenaKunisaki> anyone here using Linux?
[09:54]  * RenaKunisaki ducks
[09:54] <nmesis> @@
[09:54] <djazz> who can help me
[09:55] <nalex> djazz, ask your question. You won't recieve any answer for meta questions I fear
[09:55] <tlhonmey> nalex:  http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/03/20/disable-shutdown-for-normal-users/
[09:55] <djazz> "I can't get bluetooth working "out of the box" (applies to ubuntu and linuxmint) http://i.imgur.com/yeY0z.jpg :/ pls help"
[09:55] <nalex> tlhonmey, already checked
[09:55] <djazz> i already asked
[09:55] <shomon> after you've done an apt-get upgrade or used the update software, is it possible to get the list of what was changed in the packages you installed/updated?
[09:56] <djazz> it works if i runs some commands in terminal
[09:56] <nalex> djazz, sorry, saw it too late ;)
[09:56] <llutz> shomon: aptitude changelog <packagename>
[09:56] <tlhonmey> nalex:  The hole seems to be what have they done with the configuration editor...
[09:56] <nalex> tlhonmey, even after this thing. The computer was totally open. Physical shutdown....ctrl-alt-del   everything was still working
[09:57] <shomon> thanks llutz
[09:57] <Barefoot-Ubuntui> where is the best place to start out if you want to contribute to ubuntu?
[09:57] <llutz> !contribute | Barefoot-Ubuntui
[09:57] <tlhonmey> nalex:  ...
[09:57] <Barefoot-Ubuntui> thanks lluz
[09:57] <kv102t> i'm trying to use postfix but i'm getting access denied
[09:58] <tlhonmey> nalex:  I really don't know what to suggest then.  There must be something about the terminal server part that changes the way it does things.
[09:58] <mok0> Just started using Unity... I miss the "Preferences" and "System" menus from Gnome... can I find them somewhere?
[09:58] <nalex> tlhonmey, yeah...I guess I will just stay with the "everywhere logged in" thing
[09:59] <tlhonmey> nalex:  I'll add it to my list of things to play with when I have some spare time.
[09:59] <nalex> tlhonmey, thanks a lot, though
[09:59] <tlhonmey> nalex:  You're welcome.  Sorry I couldn't be more help.
[09:59] <nalex> it's ok..you're not the first one trying to help me with that ^^
[09:59] <djazz> the usb-creator don't work with linuxmint's iso :/
[10:04] <Bryan792> hi im having a problem where 4 cards will show up on windows but only 1 shows up on ubuntu, 3 cards are using x1 slots, can anyone help?
[10:04] <Bryan792> gpu cards that is
[10:05] <chexov> o_O
[10:06] <compdoc> you have 4 video cards?
[10:06] <sbarcteam> hi guys.
[10:06] <Bakerconspiracy> I would like 4 video cars
[10:06] <Bakerconspiracy> bards
[10:06] <Bakerconspiracy> but I only have 2
[10:06] <sbarcteam> is there a "hardware compatibility list" for ubuntu, so I can look and see for any possible pitfalls in installing ubuntu over specific hardware ?
[10:06] <jason2> hello
[10:07] <Bakerconspiracy> why not just use the live cd sbarcteam
[10:07] <milamber> nalex: have you tried to run gconf-editor and look at the indicator-session options?
[10:08] <iceroot> !hardware | sbarcteam
[10:09] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me with this error? http://paste.kde.org/79525/
[10:09] <_Rix> in need of serious help
[10:09] <_Rix> removed fedora booting into ubuntu
[10:09] <_Rix> but I face thw fun menu
[10:09] <_Rix> the grub
[10:09] <_Rix> and I have no idea
[10:09] <_Rix> how to enter ubuntu
[10:09] <iceroot> c2tarun: you can remove the packase-list in /var/lib/apt/lists  and rerun sudo apt-get update
[10:10] <brian_11_04> isn't ctrl+alt+backspace supposed to force close X ?
[10:10] <iceroot> !dontzap | brian_11_04
[10:10] <nephro> Nice lag I just had... I woke my pc from suspend and was able to stick around in gnome before the screen froze and I had to enter the password
[10:10] <nephro> nice
[10:10] <compdoc> _Rix, you were dual booting fedora and ubuntu?
[10:10] <c2tarun> iceroot, that lists folder contains lots of files? should I delete them all?
[10:10] <_Rix> compdoc yes
[10:10] <brian_11_04> how do I close X so only the terminals are running?
[10:11] <iceroot> c2tarun: you can move them first to another dir instead of delete them
[10:11] <iceroot> brian_11_04: sudo service gdm stop
[10:11] <chickadee-afk> w00!! Gorlak, ftw!!
[10:11] <jason2> I'm trying to manage indicators applets but i can't... I want to hide or show and change order in applets. Is there any entry in dconf-editor or gconf-editor?
[10:11] <chickadee-afk> \o/
[10:12] <_Rix> compdoc any ideas
[10:12] <faLUCE>  hi. how can I know which filesystem has /dev/sda1 ?
[10:12] <dnivra> faLUCE, try "blkid" command. it lists for all though.
[10:12] <nalex> milamber, yes but it works only for the current user I think
[10:12] <compdoc> _Rix, you said you see a grub menu now? Im no expert on dual booting
[10:12] <icomera> hi, I want to run cdisk via ssh, for example ssh root@host 'cfdisk /dev/sdb', but I got TERM environment variable needs set. Can anyone help me?
[10:13] <_Rix> I'm reading docs atm
[10:13] <sbarcteam>  iceroot thanks. reading.
[10:13] <dnivra> faLUCE, and I think you meant what is the filesystem OF /dev/sda1. right?
[10:13] <vimix> does jot(1) exist on ubuntu? or is there only seq?
[10:14] <user82> is there a (gui) way to epand one wallpaper over all 4 virtual desktops? (so every one gets a quarter/corner of it)?
[10:14] <faLUCE> dnivra: yes
[10:14] <faLUCE> dnivra: I need to know if it's ext3 or ext4
[10:15] <llutz> faLUCE: sudo blkid
[10:15] <dnivra> faLUCE, yeah. blkid as root. like i said :).
[10:15] <kirean> hi, I tried googling but I cannot find the correct terms so I'll try here.
[10:15] <kirean> How do I disable auto expanding/maximizing of windows when f.ex. moving a window to top of the screen?
[10:15] <faLUCE> better choice was mount
[10:15] <faLUCE> thanks anyway
[10:15] <llutz> faLUCE: mount only shows mounted fs
[10:16] <FusionX> I'm looking for Ubuntu Alternatives, i.e. the distros which are the most familiar with Ubuntu.
[10:16] <kirean> or when a window is moved to left or right side of the screen it auto resizes to half of the screen
[10:16] <nalex> milamber, you know a way to do the gconf-editor settings for every user?
[10:17] <_Rix> help I'm totally lost
[10:17] <rob> #aviation
[10:17] <brian_11_04> I just updated my nvidia drivers using sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current  ... however its still showing the old drivers are installed in "NVDIA X Server Settings"  any ideas?
[10:17] <_Rix> I need to boot into ubunti from the grub menu
[10:17] <HerrBlume> Hi, the LD_PRELOAD environment variable isn't working, i get the error ERROR: ld.so: object './lib.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[10:18] <FusionX> I'm looking for Ubuntu Alternatives, i.e. the distros which are the most familiar with Ubuntu.
[10:18] <HerrBlume> FusionX: Debian
[10:18] <RenaKunisaki> FusionX, Xubuntu, Kubuntu?
[10:19] <RenaKunisaki> those are still Ubuntu but with different programs
[10:19] <FusionX> No, not their variations but entirely different distros
[10:19] <RenaKunisaki> yeah try Debian then
[10:20] <FusionX> HerrBlume: Is Debian user-friendly for people new to linux (not that new)..
[10:20] <_Rix> I need to boot into ubuntu from the grub menu
[10:20] <HerrBlume> FusionX: not as pollished as Ubuntu, but very consistent
[10:20] <HerrBlume> FusionX: e.g. you have to install your properitary drivers by yourself
[10:21] <sipior> HerrBlume: what are the contents of LD_PRELOAD?
[10:21] <milamber> nalex: http://projects.gnome.org/gconf// seems like you just have to set the .mandatory option
[10:21] <FusionX> Hmm..I can do that.
[10:21] <icomera> hi, anyone?
[10:21] <HerrBlume> sipior: Thanks for the help
[10:21] <iceroot> FusionX: why you need another distri?
[10:21] <_Rix> grub prompt
[10:21] <HerrBlume> sipior: I just preloaded a 64Bit lib for a 32 Bit application
[10:21] <FusionX> iceroot: I just want to use something else other than Ubuntu, other reason is that it runs super slow on my crapware
[10:21] <sipior> HerrBlume: ah.
[10:22] <FusionX> Well, I guess I should go for debian then..Thanks a lot for the suggestion guys
[10:22] <FusionX> :)
[10:22] <HerrBlume> np
[10:22] <RenaKunisaki> I'd recommend Xubuntu, but apparently it's actually bigger than Ubuntu now
[10:22] <RenaKunisaki> though it does still run nicely on my 8-year-old machine
[10:22] <milamber> FusionX: while not an official derivative, lubuntu is designed for that
[10:22] <HerrBlume> apt-cache search build-essential
[10:23] <HerrBlume> oops....
[10:23] <RenaKunisaki> ENOTTY
[10:23] <sipior> RenaKunisaki: :-)
[10:23] <cyberjorge> what's a good linux media server? Aside from ubuntu and amahi?
[10:23] <FusionX> RenaKunisaki: The newest version of Xubuntu i.e. 11.04 gives me the same GUI bloat as Ubuntu, which makes it run slow.
[10:24] <compdoc> what kind of media server?
[10:24] <RenaKunisaki> you might do well just disabling Compiz
[10:24] <HerrBlume> FusionX: you can install an minimalist ubuntu without X
[10:25] <HerrBlume> FusionX: Just don't select 'Desktop computer' in the installation
[10:26] <FusionX> Guys, Which one of the two should I choose, CD/DVD? I don't want to install much from the internet (60 KBps bandwidth).
[10:26] <FusionX> while installing
[10:27] <ionwind> hi
[10:27] <kv102t> I would like to setup a simple SMTP service to collect alerts and email them on.
[10:27] <ionwind> i try to reinstall grub
[10:27] <ionwind>  minimal BASH-like line editing is suported. For the the fisrt word, tab LISTS possible command comletions. any where else tab lists possible device or file completicions
[10:27] <compdoc> hard to say what its doing, but it always seems to d/l stuff from online while installing - even when you tell it not to
[10:27] <ionwind> that is the message in the screen .... what i do from here??
[10:28] <_Rix> heelloo ??
[10:28] <FusionX> Guys, Which one of the two should I choose, CD/DVD (Debian)? I don't want to install much from the internet (60 KBps bandwidth) while installing. If CD serves as a basic installation without much bloatedness, that would be fine.
[10:29] <_Rix> I see "grub>" on black screen
[10:29] <_Rix> how do I enter ubuntu plz
[10:29] <arand> ionwind: So it has stopped at initramfs, i you o anything in particular leaing up to it?
[10:29] <arand> !grub2 | _Rix
[10:29] <arand> _Rix: Follow above guie to reinstall grub from liveCD
[10:30] <cyberjorge> compdoc: something like Amahi where it's pre setup to stream video etc.
[10:30] <gartral> dd is giving me nothing but BUTT, i have an image that's roughly 3 gb, and trying too dd it too a drive that i know has 4 gigs even, and DD is reporting that it's running out of room >.<
[10:30] <brian_11_04> I just updated my nvidia drivers using sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current  ... however its still showing the old drivers are installed in "NVDIA X Server Settings"  any ideas?
[10:30] <compdoc> cyberjorge, I guess mythbuntu wouldnt work? I use that
[10:30] <compdoc> anyway, I gtg
[10:31] <cyberjorge> HerrBlume: but the problem is I have to install all media softwares one by one unlike media servers like Amahi
[10:31] <gartral> nvm
[10:31] <cyberjorge> compdoc alright I'll check that
[10:34] <nalex> milamber, thanks. WIll check how to do that :-)
[10:34] <nalex> Ah, got it already
[10:35] <eichi> http://www.arlt.com/Hardware/Multimedia/Soundkarten/? can someone tell me one soundcard, which woks good and ootb in ubuntu?
[10:36] <HerrBlume> eichi: I didn't have any problem with any consumer soundcard in linux for the last 12 years.
[10:37] <adrian15> Hi. I am trying to setup a nginx server on Ubuntu 8.04 so that it makes a https proxy for a tomcat server. I have tried all the howtos and it does work with ssl engine off (with http). It does not work with https. How am I supposed to debug it?
[10:37] <lmanneh> laminmanneh
[10:37] <lmanneh> hi
[10:37] <iceroot> adrian15: you have a https-cert?
[10:37] <iceroot> adrian15: ssl-cert
[10:39] <eichi> HerrBlume: sounds good ;) and you have fav products? need it for ubuntustudio musik producing. shoulnd be the worst but not professional
[10:40] <adrian15> iceroot: Yes, I have it.
[10:41] <iceroot> adrian15: logs (in debug) doesnt tell anything usefull?
[10:41] <adrian15> iceroot: No. The problem is that server never answers.
[10:42] <iceroot> adrian15: https port is open?
[10:42] <iceroot> adrian15: from outside
[10:42] <adrian15> iceroot: Yes, it is open from outside because I formerly had a tomcat server there and I have turned it off.
[10:45] <adrian15> iceroot: If you want to take a look at configuration file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/620728/
[10:45] <vanquish349> i installed conky for a theme thing and i cant find my .conky file
[10:45] <vanquish349> or my .font file
[10:46] <vanquish349> anyone
[10:46] <iceroot> adrian15: hm
[10:47] <iceroot> adrian15: i think a debug-level would be a good idea to see where it fails
[10:47] <faLUCE> another question: the shell autocompletion seems damaged. It only works for directories completion... what can I do?
[10:47] <iceroot> adrian15: the start is ok?
[10:47] <slooksterpsv> what program or that is ran when I press like a volume softkey on my keyboard in Ubuntu? - it raises the volume and shows the notification that the volume's changed, but what program is that?
[10:47] <adrian15> iceroot: Yes. Running /etc/init.d/nginx start      does not complain at all.
[10:47] <slooksterpsv> guess I should specify need more specific than like notify-send
[10:47] <adrian15> iceroot: How one is supposed to enable debug-level on nginx ?
[10:48] <iceroot> adrian15: nginx --help
[10:48] <iceroot> adrian15: there should be something like "-d"
[10:48] <vanquish349> i installed conky for a theme thing and i cant find my .conky file
[10:48] <vanquish349> or my .font file
[10:49] <adrian15> iceroot: nginx --help outputs: invalid option: "--help"
[10:50] <iceroot> adrian15: when using /etc/init.d/nginx start  is ps aux | grep nginx showing it?
[10:50] <_Rix> hello
[10:50] <_Rix> so i managed to boot into ubuntu from grub prompt
[10:50] <_Rix> how do i set boot into ubuntu by default
[10:51] <adrian15> iceroot: Yes, it is showing it on ps aux.
[10:51] <adrian15> iceroot: If I remove ssl on; line I can access it on 8443 port but with http not https.
[10:53] <ionwind> how can i get root accese in my lifecd session??
[10:53] <slooksterpsv> ionwind: just type in su or sudo su at the terminal
[10:53] <vanquish349> i installed conky for a theme thing and i cant find my .conky file
[10:53] <ionwind> it say no
[10:53] <adrian15> iceroot: The only I have not done is to generate a crt file that concatenates domain crt + intermediate certificate + root certificate.
[10:53] <vanquish349> i have looked everywhere
[10:53] <_Rix> how do i boot into ubuntu by default
[10:53] <iceroot> adrian15: the question is, is nginx blocking the ssl request or tomcat
[10:53] <_Rix> help plz?
[10:54] <RenaKunisaki> ionwind, what exactly does it say?
[10:54] <ionwind> is i life session i have to copy the files before i formatin
[10:54] <vanquish349> why cant anyone help me
[10:54] <adrian15> iceroot: But I suppose that I would get a certificate error on web browser and that's all (Although I am not sure).
[10:54] <RenaKunisaki> ionwind, try "sudo -i"
[10:54] <slooksterpsv> it should be .conkyrc vanquish349 in your home folder it's hidden
[10:55] <RenaKunisaki> _Rix, you might want to look up how to configure GRUB
[10:55] <gartral> _Rix: that should be default
[10:55] <_Rix> will sudo update-grub work
[10:55] <adrian15> iceroot: I suppose it is nginx because if I disable ssl on as I have told you it works ok.
[10:55] <gartral> _Rix: should, yes
[10:55] <_Rix> alright i'll try that
[10:56] <ionwind> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#
[10:56] <ionwind> but i can not get in the dev/sda5
[10:56] <ionwind> to safe my files in the deskcop
[10:56] <thegoodcushion> If I'm running more than one process, about how often does Ubuntu switch from one process to another?
[10:56] <iceroot> adrian15: but nginx is just forwarding to tomcat, correct?
[10:56] <ionwind> the problem is when i update 10.04 to 11.04 the grub coorup
[10:56] <adrian15> iceroot: It is what I want it to do (with https).
[10:57] <brian_11_04> does ubuntu server come preinstalled with Xfree ?
[10:57] <adrian15> iceroot: Well, not forwarding but proxying
[10:57] <vanquish349> this is bullshit
[10:57] <iceroot> and when tomcat is locking the ssl request you cant see on client site if it is nginx or tomcat
[10:57] <vanquish349> why cant anyone help me
[10:57] <vanquish349> i installed conky for a theme thing and i cant find my .conky file
[10:57] <RenaKunisaki> ~/.conkyrc
[10:57] <iceroot> vanquish349: create it
[10:57] <vanquish349> i have used ctrl+h but it isnt there
[10:57] <Sidewinder1> !update > ionwind
[10:58] <dorst> hello everyone
[10:58] <adrian15> iceroot: I do not see anything in my browser it just keeps loading and loading. I am going to use wget just in case it gaves more information.
[10:58] <vanquish349> iceroot: ok i will try
[10:58] <dorst> How do I solve the problem with ¨Nvidia Driver activated but not in use¨
[10:59] <dorst> I searched all the internet for a good explanation but no chance
[10:59] <slooksterpsv> dorst: after you installed the driver did you reboot?
[10:59] <dorst> yes slooksterpsv
[10:59] <dorst> I find in some place my video card is blacklisted
[11:00] <dorst> I talk about ubuntu 11.04
[11:00] <adrian15> iceroot: What the hell! It does work?! How long one is supposed to wait till nginx actually works?!
[11:00] <adrian15> iceroot: Thank you for your help.
[11:00] <iceroot> adrian15: i guess it should work directly
[11:01] <iceroot> adrian15: but fine its working now :)
[11:01] <slooksterpsv> dorst: it could be a bug, as there's a lot experiencing the same issue, try this, if you go to your dash -> type in gnome-terminal, open that up and run: gksudo lshw -C display   and paste the output into a pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[11:02] <brian_11_04> dorst : go into "Additional Drivers" and select the recommended driver and install it.... then reboot
[11:02] <slooksterpsv> dorst: and send me the link that would be great, then we can see if it's a bug and is active or if it's not
[11:03] <dorst> ok thanks just a sec
[11:03] <adrian15> iceroot: Do you know about nginx options? I just do not want any restriction about download size and so on.
[11:04] <iceroot> adrian15: just using it as a imap-proxy
[11:04] <adrian15> iceroot: Ok.
[11:04] <iceroot> adrian15: but by default there are (imo) no restrictions
[11:06] <archie> hi
[11:08] <archie> ping
[11:08] <slooksterpsv> dorst:  you can also install mesa-utils via: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils and then run glxgears and if you get high frame rate on that, it's installed
[11:10] <m4rtin> hi all. On Natty, my update-grub works fine except that, finding an additional Fedora partition, it is passing by device name (root=/dev/sdb) instead of by UUID. I need it to pass by UUID. All ubuntu partitions get passed a UUID. Any ideas?
[11:11] <jnlsnl_> What happens when you mount a drive multiple times? =)
[11:11] <jnlsnl_> and its already mounted
[11:11] <egor_tensin> hi everyone! does anyone else expreriences troubles creating ad-hoc wireless network since natty?
[11:14] <dorst> slooksterpsv here is the link http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/620744/
[11:14] <Guest75401> hello
[11:16] <slooksterpsv> dorst: hmmm... I'm betting it is installed, but if you really want to test it out, I'd install mesa-utils and run glxgears
[11:16] <dorst> I get around 1179 FPS on glxgears
[11:16] <slooksterpsv> dorst: oh yeah it's installed then, normally without the drivers I get like 80fps max, and with I get over 300 on my HD 4200
[11:17] <Guest75401> i dont know that well
[11:17] <dorst> realy? greate, but why that message is still there
[11:17] <slooksterpsv> dorst: it's a bug
[11:17] <dorst> drivfer is activated but not currently in use
[11:18] <dorst> o greate
[11:18] <Hyperbyte> I'm running Ubuntu with LTSP, and people are complaining about programs randomly freezing.  I'm mounting /home/ via NFS, and I see ton of errors in dmesg.  http://local.recreatie-zorg.nl/jan/dmesg.txt  Any ideas what all this means?
[11:18] <slooksterpsv> dorst: right, it's a bug, it's actually showing up with a lot of people - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/771788
[11:18] <Sidewinder1> jnlsnl_, I don't believe that multiple mounts will do them any harm.
[11:18] <dorst> so my videocard is working... thanks man
[11:18] <slooksterpsv> dorst: you're welcome =D
[11:20] <jnlsnl_> Sidewinder1, reason I'm wondering.. if I do: "mount|grep <mountpoint>" then it shows an entry for each time i have mounted the drive... was wondering if that means the drive is actually mounted multiple times or something?
[11:20] <nidzo> please help, i installed this unubuntu, how can i run gta4, when i put the cd and click setup it opens some archiver thingy
[11:22] <almoxarife> nidzo: you are trying to open a file named 'setup.exe'?
[11:23] <nmesis> nidzo, running native windows apps needs wine to run in linux
[11:23] <Hyperbyte> nidzo is gone.
[11:23] <afrodeity> this is just typical, I'm not getting WSIWYG in GIMP
[11:23] <Sidewinder1> jnlsnl_, I suspect that they are mounted each time as their mount-points are different (keep in mind that each different/multiple drive must have a separate mount-point), but again, I don't think it will harm them.
[11:23] <afrodeity> one cm = one cm, surely?
[11:23] <remx> what do we think of the mono spaced font?
[11:23] <OerHeks> nidzo check wine database, GTA4 will run bad, they say > http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8757
[11:24] <jnlsnl_> Sindewinder1 but the mountpoint is the same though, if I execute the same command twice: sudo mount -t cifs... Then the grep will show two results
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> jnlsnl_, My question to you is why you mount multiple times?
[11:25] <jnlsnl_> Sindewinder1 but i guess your right, it probably dose't matter
[11:26] <jnlsnl_> Sidewinder1 hehe i just forgot I already mounted the drive, and was wondering if that matters
[11:28] <iam3fun> hello guys
[11:28] <iam3fun> :)
[11:29] <iam3fun> can somebody help me about internet -> ubuntu server -> wireless router -> wireless clients ?
[11:29] <iam3fun> and actually about the wireless settings
[11:36]  * chickadee-afk brb's
[11:36]  * chickadee-afk brb's in a bit, actually
[11:37] <bonhoffer> sudo apt-get install wkthmltopdf produced E: Couldn't find package wkthmltopdf
[11:37] <chickadee-afk> @iam3fun: Make sure your settings are on WPA
[11:37] <bonhoffer> this has worked before
[11:37] <jnlsnl_> Can anyone give me an example of using options is a bash script ? Eg. myscript -m something
[11:38] <jnlsnl_> or is the "-m" just an argument?
[11:38]  * chickadee-afk brbiab's
[11:39] <egor_tensin> jnlsnl_: i believe bash will store '-m' and 'something' in a ARGV array available in your script
[11:40] <jnlsnl_> egor_tensin ok thanks, ill look into that
[11:42] <LekeFly> My pc only boots for half a sec.. what to do? the fans almost make it one round..
[11:42] <RenaKunisaki> check power supply
[11:43] <RenaKunisaki> not really a Ubuntu issue though
[11:49] <jiltdil> i have nvidia driver installed but it is showin that driver is activated but not in use any solution for this
[11:50] <stianhj> My soundcard sometimes drops out. Can I restart the drivers for it without restarting my machine?
[11:50] <arunkumar413> is there a way to unlock 3g usb modems in linux?
[11:51] <jiltdil>  i have nvidia driver installed but it is showin that driver is activated but not in use any solution for this
[11:52] <Fudge> can hpasmcli change fan speeds
[11:52] <egor_tensin> jnlsnl_: it's actually a bit more complicated: here it is a pretty useful tutorial http://goo.gl/6w0bM
[11:53] <jnlsnl_> egor_tensin I see, looks pretty comprehensive thanks
[11:54] <nettezzaumana_> hello
[11:55] <nettezzaumana_> howto get list of fb modes in bubuntu ??? for example `hwinfo --framebuffer' lists them elsewhere
[11:55] <nettezzaumana_> thanks
[11:56] <cmr> hello
[11:59] <cmr> I have a machine running hardy. I need to install a kernel >= 2.6.28, what's the preferred way to go about with this?
[11:59] <ampy> hola
[12:00] <Sidewinder1> !es > ampy
[12:00] <OerHeks> !hardy
[12:00] <EClaesson_> I recently installed ubuntu-server (11.04). But i seem to have problems booting correctly. I get to grub and it goes on loading, but after that i can't see anything at all, just black. And i can't find it on the network either.
[12:00] <OerHeks> cmr upgrade to 10.04 LTS ?
[12:01] <OerHeks> EClaesson_, ubuntu server has no desktopenvironment.
[12:01] <EClaesson_> OerHeks: I know that. But shouldn'y i get a terminal?
[12:01] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "libsdl-sound1.2 is a Decoder of several sound file formats for SDL." Does »SDL« stand here for »software description language?«
[12:02] <EClaesson_> And at least find it on the nwteork?
[12:02] <cmr> OerHeks, perhaps. the linux computers at this company run 8.04, upgrading to 10.04 is on the todo list, but right now I'd prefer something that just works instead of the hazzle of upgrading.
[12:02] <cmyrland> can somebody explain to me why ubuntu haven't looked into the qutecom project? It's open source, it supports calling mobile/landlines and supports video. Wouldn't that be a perfect solution to the Skype problems?
[12:03] <stianhj> bullgard4, SDL is Simple Directmedia Layer
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> cmyrland: 'why' is a philosophical question, this channel supports 'how' questions
[12:03] <EClaesson_> OerHeks: Any ideas?
[12:04] <cmyrland> MonkeyDust, then you should have a #ubuntu-philosophical channel too ;)
[12:04] <OerHeks> EClaesson_, did you install SSH ?
[12:04] <stianhj> EClaesson_, you should fix not getting terminal first, no?
[12:04] <EClaesson_> OerHeks, stianhj: I have SSH on it yes.
[12:05] <EClaesson_> But i can not connect to it, and network discovery can't see it
[12:05] <dpecka_> just for curiosity ::: how big attachment gmail accepts ?
[12:05] <stianhj> EClaesson_, but can you log in to it locally
[12:05] <Sidewinder1> cmyrland, There is; join #ubuntu-offtopic :-)
[12:05] <stianhj> dpecka_, 25 Mb
[12:05] <EClaesson_> stianhj: Oh, i can?
[12:06] <OerHeks> EClaesson_, try ' ssh -v localhost "
[12:06] <stianhj> EClaesson_, Can you log in to it locally?
[12:06] <stianhj> EClaesson_, have you tried the different TTYs or whatever it's called..
[12:07] <bullgard4> stianhj: Thank you very much for your help.
[12:07] <cmr> can I take a .deb of a newer ubuntu release and install it on hardy?
[12:07] <EClaesson_> stianhj: I can connect to it, and i auth correctly. But.. i get back to my laptop terminal, and not my server
[12:07] <FloatingGoat> Is it possible for me to advertise Ubuntu on a local station?
[12:08] <stianhj> FloatingGoat, yes
[12:08] <stianhj> i'm guessing
[12:08] <FloatingGoat> Well canonical has copyrights to the logo and name
[12:08] <Coke> Hello. How can I run unity (with the bar on the left side) in Ubuntu 11.04?
[12:08] <FloatingGoat> I think
[12:09] <stianhj> EClaesson_, but that's via ssh.. i'm asking if you have physical access to the server.. can you log in locally on it
[12:09] <FloatingGoat> But its very inexpensive.
[12:09] <shomon> !contribute
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Coke: logout, then login with Ubuntu
[12:09] <Coke> I did
[12:09] <Sidewinder1> FloatingGoat, I think it's a great idea; why not contact Conical directly?
[12:09] <EClaesson_> stianhj: I have it right here yes, but i get no terminal on it. Screen is just black when i plug it in
[12:10] <FloatingGoat> Sidewinder1 I don't know how I could.
[12:10] <stianhj> FloatingGoat, http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[12:10] <Coke> I'm running "Ubuntu" session.
[12:10] <Coke> No sidebar
[12:10] <stianhj> EClaesson_, well then you should fix that first.. trying to ssh into a server that doesn't work..
[12:11] <Coke> I don't know this doesnt look like unity at all. There's a top bar that looks exactly like the normal gnome3
[12:11] <EClaesson_> stianhj: I guess i'll have to reinstall the server then
[12:11] <Coke> and no sidebar.
[12:11] <stianhj> EClaesson_, have you tried the different TTYs?
[12:11] <stianhj> EClaesson_, like ctrl-alt-f1 f2 etc
[12:12] <neoinr> now
[12:12] <Coke> How can I replace gnome3 with unity?
[12:12] <stianhj> Coke, maybe a hw acceleration issue?
[12:13] <Coke> stianhj: it's in virtualbox, ive got the guest addition installed
[12:13] <cmyrland> Wow, I actually discovered that qutecom is in the ubuntu repos :) But, and this is a big but, why doesn't the software center allow me to install non-autheticated programs when they are available in default repos? I can do it from CLI, but USC just says "Unable to download, check you internet connection".. That's annoyinh
[12:13] <cmyrland> g*
[12:13] <stianhj> Coke, yeah, don't think that works very well.. even with guest additions
[12:13] <Coke> vboxvideo is loaded in the guest system
[12:13] <Coke> compiz does.
[12:13] <Coke> I'm assuming it's just normal OpenGL?
[12:14] <EClaesson_> stianhj: That didn't help. I actually doesn't seem to get a signal out at all
[12:14] <Sidewinder1> FloatingGoat, Or you could start here (if you haven't already): http://www.canonical.com
[12:15] <stianhj> EClaesson_, weird.. reinstall maybe?
[12:15] <Coke> stianhj: so, basically, it doesnt work in virtualbox for unknown reasons?
[12:15] <FloatingGoat> Sidewinder1 alright thanks :)
[12:15] <EClaesson_> stianhj: I will. I tried starting in recovery mode, but as fast as the terminal should appear, i loose vide signal
[12:15] <EClaesson_> stianhj: Or perhaps it can't work on HDMI? (No, it's not really a server :P)
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> cmyrland, I prefer Synaptic to Software Centers; you may need to add some specific repositories in order to do what you wish to do.
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> FloatingGoat, No prob. :-)
[12:17] <stianhj> Coke, the reasons aren't unknown.. i just don't know them
[12:18] <tholl583xx> hi, i have x86_64 desktop running fedora14, a lot of the packages feel a bit rough, i am thinking of switching to ubuntu when i upgrade, how stable is ubuntu x64 ?
[12:20] <sipior> tholl583xx: it's fine.
[12:20] <cmyrland> Sidewinder1, this is not about personal taste. Canonical wants people to use the USC, and the program I tried to install was in the official repo. So why does USC tell me to check my internet connection, and then tell me the package had "unauthenticated" dependencies and just blocks my download? Not very user friendly.
[12:22] <stianhj> EClaesson_, i have no idea.. maybe that need some special gfx card drivers
[12:23] <Sidewinder1> cmyrland, I totally understand you frustration; unfortunately I can't answer your question..Plus, I usually avoid what want me to do...I'm just contrary. ;-)
[12:23] <Sidewinder1> Hence my use of Ubuntu
[12:25] <EClaesson_> stianhj: I'll try reinstalling. It doesn't even respond to ping
[12:26] <szal> what's USC?  friggin' PackageKit pkg manager frontend?
[12:27] <dpecka_> stianhj: thanks
[12:27] <dpecka_> stianhj: interesting, how they could support then my 10G limit or so
[12:28] <Sidewinder1> szal, I don't know about Software Center, but I believe that Synaptic is simply a front-end GUI for apt-get.
[12:28] <stianhj> dpecka_, what do you mean? what has one thing got to do with the other?
[12:28] <stianhj> Sidewinder1, software center is just a more fancy front-end GUI for apt-get, isn't it?
[12:29] <kirean> I need help with dockbarx.
[12:29] <kirean> I'm trying to Install manually, but I don't knowhow to do:
[12:29] <kirean> 3. Add DockBarX applet to panel (kill gnome-panel first if necessary)
[12:30] <bigmahatma> hi, I've just installed 11.04. After the login (automatic) I always have to insert the keyring password, to unlock the wifi password. How can I avoid it?
[12:30] <kirean> how do I "kill gnome-panel first if necessary"
[12:30] <dpecka_> stianhj: that's bit of unproportional ... i don't use google much but now i'm unable to send an email with attached 65MB in one file and i just didn't expect that if google still claims with proud how much space we all have that's dumb like this
[12:30] <Sidewinder1> stianhj, Perhaps, I don't know, but last time I checked (Hardy?) Synaptic had thousands more installable packages than Software Ctr.
[12:30] <kirean> smart as i am I translated that to delete panel
[12:30] <kirean> so now I don't have the old panel and no dockbarx either
[12:31] <kirean> how can I activate/enable dockbarx?
[12:31] <kirean> or add new panels?
[12:31] <kirean> ah, I could add new panels from the top panel..
[12:32] <adi11> hi all.i have a 2005 fujitsu siemens celeron 2.6, 1 gb ram, 40 gb hdd, and 32 mb sis integrated grapics. its been 3 years now that i use a xorg.conf in order to get higher resolution than 960X600 that vesa driver proposes me after freash install. i installed 11.04 and put xorg.conf file on /etc/X11 dir. i can get gigher resolutions but everything video is slugish, firefox rendering is horrible....
[12:32] <kirean> ah, now the dropbarx is available for adding to the panel..
[12:32] <kirean> magic
[12:33] <adi11> cant watch youtube video on totem, and the whole system is so slow. i choose ubuntu classic on log in screen but all is very slow and unresponsive. it seems to me that somewhere there are still some affects turned on.
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> adi11, Have you tried logging in with "classic", rather than Unity?
[12:34] <szal> Sidewinder1: read again please ;)
[12:35] <Sidewinder1> szal, Ah, sorry I type way too slow and worse, gotta look at keyboard...:-(
[12:35] <adi11> now that i am on the vesa driver again. and all seems to work. but i cant have higher res than 960X600. just a bit higher than i iphone :)
[12:36] <fellipe> hi friends. do anyone know something like remastersys to take a snapshot of a ubuntu server wich has no GUI ?
[12:37] <Stava> In /etc/fstab should is ntfs or ntfs-3g preferred as type? Also, do I need to enable utf8 support for the drive?
[12:37] <Stava> -should
[12:37] <lolyp0p> new at IRC : where can I find some french "chating" room ?  and for asking/answering question, people just come like than and ask? or what ever?
[12:37] <Sik> Supid question: does Ubuntu come with LPT support or is it disabled? :|
[12:37] <adi11> is there any thing i can do about it or it simply means that ubuntu is becoming a vista or 7 like os's for my old hardware...
[12:38] <Sidewinder1> !fr | lolyp0p
[12:38] <sabiancrash_cgx> Temps cannot be colder than absolute 0. (-459.67F)
[12:38] <szal> !irc | lolyp0p
[12:38] <sabiancrash_cgx> Temps cannot be colder than absolute 0. (-459.67F)
[12:38] <szal> bleh..  sabiancrash_cgx: please turn that off, you've been asked to do that already
[12:38] <clakes> he's virtually right though
[12:39] <stianhj> dpecka_, the point of all the space is that you never have to delete anything.. it's not your personal filestorage.. just use dropbox or something
[12:39] <Maimster> Morning all.
[12:39] <adi11> i repeat that my sis graphics is all the problems... but in the past i have been able to run ubuntu smoothly with this xorg.conf file Action partnsip gave me once :)
[12:41] <szal> stianhj: you know that dropbox is potentially unsafe?
[12:42] <stianhj> szal, unsafe how?
[12:42] <adi11> thanks.
[12:42] <szal> stianhj: unsafe in that their employees have access to your data
[12:43] <_Rix> hello
[12:43] <_Rix> i removed fedora from my ubuntu-fedora dualboot
[12:43] <_Rix> but it doesn't show ubuntu's grub menu
[12:44] <_Rix> i'm probably explaining it poorly
[12:44] <Sik> _Rix: does it boot directly?
[12:44] <stianhj> szal, sure, but that goes for a lot of cloud services/websites.. and there are always alternatives and solutions
[12:44] <_Rix> Sik, no i type out from the grub prompt
[12:44] <Sidewinder1> _Rix, Have you tried, from ubuntu live-cd sudo update-grub?
[12:44] <CokeMD> evening
[12:44] <stianhj> dropbox was just a suggestion for storing bigger files
[12:45] <CokeMD> anyone installed ubuntu using the minimal cd iso?
[12:45] <_Rix> Sidewinder1, no
[12:46] <CokeMD> I'm looking to get make my machine as fast as possible, and only get apps/drivers as I need them :)
[12:46] <Sidewinder1> _Rix, Try it; it can't hurt; I don't think..
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> CokeMD: http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Speed_Up_Linux
[12:47] <stianhj> CokeMD, that sounds like a job for Arch Linux :)
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> CokeMD: tip: install preload
[12:47] <_Rix> Sidewinder1, any alternatives?
[12:47] <_Rix> besides that?
[12:48] <Sidewinder1> _Rix, None that I can think of 'cause I've never experienced that problem; perhaps someone else....
[12:48] <_deyan_> CokeMD aptosid is an option also
[12:50] <revilodraw> hey y'all, when i use exaile to download all the album art for my music library, where does it store all those images?
[12:51] <Sik> Does anybody know can I tell if the system has LPT port support? (more specifically, to plug some old console joystick in it >_>)
[12:52] <mark__> lst
[12:52] <mark__> channel
[12:52] <mark__> help
[12:53] <fellipe> hi friends. do anyone know something like remastersys to take a snapshot of a ubuntu server wich has no GUI ?
[12:54] <sipior> fellipe: have a look at fsarchiver (or partimage, if you're not using ext4)
[12:55] <sipior> fellipe: or set the machine up with lvm, and just use the lvm snapshot facility...
[13:02] <sveinse> I want to make a init service manual, but if I add the manual stanza (according to man 5 init), upstart does not recognize the service any more
[13:02] <Yanch0> guys is it possible to use a vncviewer inside a vnc session pls? i am getting Error: Can't open display:
[13:02] <sveinse> Does anyone have any examples of how to use a manual service?
[13:02] <RevSpecies116> Yanch0:
[13:02] <RevSpecies116> Ubuntu 10.04LTS?
[13:03] <kiamo> hi
[13:03] <kiamo> I get a GPG error when trying to update ubuntu11.04
[13:03] <Yanch0> RevSpecies116, 11.04 is the first vnc - connected to suse inside
[13:03] <kiamo> something about the public key not being available...
[13:03] <kiamo> does anyone know how to resolve this/
[13:03] <kiamo> ?
[13:04] <viderbit> pruge caches of apt
[13:04] <viderbit> ?
[13:04] <bazhang> !gpgerr | kiamo
[13:04] <kiamo> ah thanks bazhang
[13:05] <RevSpecies116> I believe that VNC'ing within a VNC event is not possible
[13:07] <magpii> i know this is unrelated but i need to find an irc chat room that deals with mercedes benz diagnostic quiries if someone can help please
[13:07] <bazhang> !alis | magpii
[13:10] <magpii> ok i am not too good with script. how do i open a query with alis regarding mercedes benz?
[13:11] <bazhang> magpii, lets take this to #freenode please
[13:11] <magpii> ok
[13:16] <auk> hello, question: is there a more advisable way to copy an entire 80gb home directory than using nautilus? also, would it be faster if done from a livecd?
[13:18] <bazhang> auk, move to another partition, or simply back it up somewhere else
[13:18] <viderbit> dudes, is it only for me that skype fail to connect
[13:18] <llutz_> auk: you could use "cp -ax ......" but i doubt it'll be much faster. Also using a livecd shouldn't make big differences
[13:18] <viderbit> and reconecting from 1 hour
[13:19] <auk> bazhang, llutz, i'm trying to make a simply backup, of my home directory onto a usb-plugged HD
[13:19] <auk> *simple backup
[13:19] <airescript1> hgdhsqg
[13:19] <bazhang> auk, rsync perhaps
[13:19] <llutz_> auk: copying 80GB of data takes some time
[13:19] <bazhang> airescript1, english please
[13:20] <airescript1> ok
[13:20] <juank_prada> hi all
[13:20] <airescript1> hi evryone
[13:21] <auk> hmm ok.. i think i'm gonna just go with nautilus (i already did a déjà dup backup too, this is a second one)
[13:21] <juank_prada> Right now I'm using fedora, but i just downloaded an .iso file from ubuntu and I'd like to install it on my USB is there a way to do it from Fedora? i can see only instruction for Ubuntu and Windows, but not other Linux distros
[13:21] <th^^> auk: i recommend deja dup
[13:21] <th^^> auk: http://live.gnome.org/DejaDup/Screenshots
[13:21] <th^^> it's really simple and handy
[13:21] <airescript1> hey doe s anyone  know how to uninstall unity interface??
[13:21] <th^^> can also backup over ssh, etc
[13:21] <bazhang> juank_prada, unetbootin.sourceforge.net should have one for fedora if their repos dont
[13:21] <th^^> auk: it's available in repos, just search for 'deja' in software center
[13:22] <auk> th^^, yeah i already did one backup with déjà dup
[13:22] <bazhang> airescript1, you dont, choose classic from login window
[13:22] <airescript1> ok
[13:22] <llutz_> auk: USB(2) writespeed will be the bottlenek, independend of the tool you use
[13:22] <juank_prada> bazhang: thanks
[13:23] <viderbit> anyone problems with skype?
[13:23] <auk> th^^, this is a second one for good measure, plus i tried looking for ways to verify the integrity of a déjà dup archive and couldn't find any
[13:23] <airescript1> bazhang i ve installed compiz but it  does not work in classic mode
[13:23] <bazhang> airescript1, installed ccsm?
[13:23] <airescript1> yeah
[13:23] <auk> llutz_, even if you add encryption into the mix?
[13:23] <llutz_> auk: depends on your CPU i guess
[13:24] <juank_prada> how is the current status of Unity? is it stable enough for a workstation?
[13:24] <bazhang> airescript1, what does alt f2 compiz --replace return
[13:24] <bazhang> juank_prada, stable enough. just not very well liked as it's a significant departure from regular gnome
[13:24] <th^^> juank_prada: i've used it for 2 months now without a single crash
[13:25] <airescript1> bazhang did not get
[13:25] <auk> llutz, hmm probably the USB then
[13:25] <th^^> i like it, it was the only thing after years of windows that got me to try linux again ;-)
[13:25] <auk> th^^, have you ever restored a backup from déjà dup? any issues or problems?
[13:25] <bazhang> airescript1, not sure then; are your 3d drivers installed? also ask in #compiz as well
[13:25] <th^^> auk: nope, fortunately haven't been need for that yet :-)
[13:25] <juank_prada> bazhang: well i don't really care about it being separate from regular Gnome (imho, Unity should completly separate from Gnome and a third major DE should arise from this)
[13:25] <airescript1> wht  are those
[13:26] <RevSpecies116> bazhang, Unity is unliked by a vocal minority
[13:26] <auk> juank_prada, wow those are fighting words
[13:26] <bazhang> airescript1, system adminstration additional drivers
[13:27] <th^^> many "regular" people that i've shown unity have said it looks cooler than mac :-)
[13:27] <auk> th^^, yeah same here but i'm worried about the integrity
[13:27] <juank_prada> auk: not fighting words, just an opinion... I think unity is doing great (i havent tested it yet though) and ubuntu should try to make their own way up to success
[13:27] <Sik> How do I tell if Ubuntu supports a LPT port? I want to connect a Mega Drive joystick there :|
[13:28] <auk> imho, gnome-shell and unity are basically different implementations of very similar concepts, and i think i prefer the gnome shell on the whole, although i haven't used it nearly so much as unity
[13:28] <jnlsnl_> Im writing my first bash script... im using getopts... how do i grab the first argument? eg. script -m <firstargument>
[13:28] <airescript1> bazhang got sata broadcom wireless driver installed
[13:28] <jnlsnl_> or rather the argument connect to the option
[13:28] <spass> Sik LPT is old tech. It's supported for sure.
[13:28] <iceroot> jnlsnl_: $1
[13:28] <Sik> spass: but it could have been disabled :P
[13:28] <juank_prada> auk: i have used it, and although the concept is quite similiar, the implementation differs a lot, gnome-shell being so much more complicated to use
[13:29] <spass> Sik: it's used in many companies - printers
[13:29] <spass> Sik: disabling would be a shoot in the foot.
[13:29] <Sik> The problem is that I don't see /dev/lp0, or /dev/parport0, or anything like that :/
[13:29] <auk> juank_prada, there are a few somewhat conspicuous and annoying bugs in unity, although mostly nothing production-damaging
[13:29] <auk> juank_prada, and i have had it crash two or three times
[13:30] <juank_prada> and by this a I don't mean its cluttered or confusing... it just add steps that are really not necessary to the workflow
[13:30] <llutz_> solitude: "sudo modprobe parport lp"
[13:30] <llutz_> Sik: ^^ sry
[13:30] <juank_prada> i think ubuntu's way to show running/current apps its way better than gnome-shell
[13:30] <aar> Hello, any recommendations for desktop file indexing in Kubuntu 10.04? I need it to be able to read into PDFs, DOCs and ODT.
[13:30] <spass> Sik: check if you have it enabled in BIOS
[13:30] <auk> juank_prada, i presume you mean how the unity bar is visible by default?
[13:30] <juank_prada> auk:
[13:31] <juank_prada> yeap
[13:31] <RevSpecies116> Megadrive dongles are too small for LPT ports
[13:31] <megrem> hi, why doesn't wget saves all files? it only gets 2 of 2000 images -->  wget -m -A png --user-agent="Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.9b5) Gecko/2008050509 Firefox/3.0b5" http://www.explosm.net/
[13:31] <Sik> RevSpecies116: adapter
[13:31] <juank_prada> auk: from what i've seen, the bar does auto-hide right?
[13:31] <jnlsnl_> iceroot if you have time, could you tell my why this ain’t working? http://pastebin.com/S0fKB5rn
[13:31] <auk> juank_prada, i heard there's an extension to make gnome-shell do that
[13:31] <Sik> There's even a Linux driver for it actually
[13:31] <Sik> spass: will check later the BIOS then >_>'
[13:31] <auk> juank_prada, defautl setting is to be visible unless obstructing windows, then to show up on cursor hover
[13:32] <auk> (iirc. i've set mine to be hidden until cursor-hover)
[13:32] <juank_prada> auk: how is it for 64bit PC's?
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:32] <auk> juank_prada, i've been using it on a 64 bit, nothing to comment specifically
[13:33] <auk> juank_prada, works just fine but haven't compared to a 32bit or anything
[13:33] <juank_prada> auk: but have you been using the 64bit version? or the 32 bit version over a 64bit CPU?
[13:34] <auk> juank_prada, i don't know about the unity packages specifically but i assume they're 64b as the install is a 64bit
[13:34] <Sidewinder1> _Rix, I just stumbled across this, perhaps it will solve your problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1774953
[13:35] <auk> juank_prada, among the annoying bugs i was alluding to are sometimes click events don't work on the status area, except they always seem to on the clock or power/session item, then you can slide over
[13:35] <juank_prada> auk: got it.... Im willing to migrate to Ubuntu from Fedora, but i need to check how stable it might be for my day to day work
[13:35] <aar> Hello, any recommendations for desktop file indexing in Kubuntu 10.04? I need it to be able to read into PDFs, DOCs and ODT.
[13:35] <auk> juank_prada, funny, see, i'm considering migrating from ubuntu to fedora
[13:36] <juank_prada> auk: hehe, well fedora's fine, great distro imho.... I use it with kde though, I really don't like it how the gnome guys implemented their paradigm
[13:37] <juank_prada> I just like to test multiple distros and Ubuntu was the first Linux distro i worked with, and it's been a lot of time since i used it
[13:37] <th^^> meh, login to ubuntu wiki doesn't work
[13:37] <th^^> internal server error :(
[13:38] <stianhj> My soundcard sometimes drops out. Can I restart the drivers for it without restarting my machine?
[13:38] <Sik> sudo alsa reload
[13:38] <juank_prada> auk: plus fedora is more for people willing to deal with their OS...I used to have to time to do it, but right now i just need something that works as soon as I install it instead of having ocasional crashes due to some updates
[13:38] <Sik> Try if that works >_>
[13:39] <auk> juank_prada, i find unity to be very similar to gnome shell, so dunno if you'll like it, but give it a try :) my favorite thing in unity is actually pretty small, the new scroll bars (although there is some polish needed and it doesn't work with all apps)
[13:39] <Sidewinder1> aar, Not sure if it's installed with Kubuntu but Openoffice.org's word processor reads all of the formats that you listed.
[13:39] <auk> juank_prada, yeah that is my main concern about fedora is that it would be less stable
[13:39] <stianhj> Sik: it reloaded all the kernel modules it seems.. but still no sound
[13:39] <auk> juank_prada, i haven't had an ubuntu system fail to boot after upgrade in a few years
[13:40] <Sik> Go into alsamixer and check the devices?
[13:40] <aar> Sidewinder1, I was thinking of indexing (e.g. Beagle, Kerry, Tracker...)
[13:40] <auk> juank_prada, but prior to maybe two years ago, it happened decently often (but rarely)
[13:40] <aar> Sidewinder1, I'll try recoll, thanks.
[13:40] <Sik> Also the sound panel (left-click the speaker icon in the taskbar, select "sound preferences")
[13:40] <juank_prada> auk: well you can alwasy configure update system to only get critical or bug-fixing updates... ans so you wont end up having the latest version of some package which might have some ocasional bug
[13:40] <oriba> hi.  my sys-update manager showed me some packages that I should install, but which were not authorised. something with sysvinit and libpoppler and such stuff. Instead of security updates it was something from launchpad.net  ; that it is not authorised makes me sceptical on if I should install it or better not...
[13:40] <stianhj> Sik, everything is unmuted, volume up
[13:41] <Sik> Check which device is selected for output
[13:41] <juank_prada> auk: as i said, i've nothing against fedora, its a great distro and i work with it at the office... but i want to try somthing different
[13:41] <stianhj> Sik: did sudo alsa force-restart, and it worked :) thanks
[13:41] <auk> juank_prada, actually i was hoping fedora would offer some in-between, as i find it really annoying how ubuntu doesn't offer updates even for major packages that come out a week after the release
[13:42] <stianhj> Sik: force-reload not restart
[13:42] <Sik> stianhj: :D
[13:42] <RenaKunisaki> oriba, typically do "sudo apt-get update", and if it's still doing that, just wait. installing unauthorized packages is a security risk, but when you get that it's usually just a temporary glitch that will be cleared up in a little while.
[13:42] <llutz_> auk: juank_prada could you please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic, this chan is ubuntu support
[13:42] <juank_prada> auk: that is actually the default
[13:42] <Rahmat> how to install gcc on ubuntu server ?
[13:42] <Sik> Remind me to do that next time sound breaks here >.>'
[13:42] <szal> !gcc | Rahmat
[13:42] <Sik> ...isn't gcc installed by default?
[13:42] <juank_prada> llutz_: sorry about that ... i'm new to ubuntu
[13:43] <stianhj> Rahmat: apt-get install build-essential ?
[13:43] <Sik> (though I did notice the C++ compiler wasn't installed by default, just the C compiler)
[13:43] <oriba> RenaKunisaki, ok, thx. then I just disable it for thos packages, and only install the authorized ones.
[13:43] <Rahmat> can't apt-get install build-essential
[13:43] <RenaKunisaki> that's usually the best idea
[13:43] <Rahmat> Reading package lists... Done
[13:43] <Rahmat> Building dependency tree
[13:43] <Rahmat> Reading state information... Done
[13:43] <Rahmat> E: Couldn't find package build-essentia
[13:44] <szal> Rahmat: of course not, re-read your input
[13:45] <Rahmat> yes i have type apt-get install build-essential
[13:45] <Rahmat> i am buy vps server
[13:45] <llutz_> Rahmat: check your sources/repos then
[13:46] <cipherboy> Rahmat: have you apt-get updated, and apt-get upgraded?
[13:47] <sneakyarie1> hello
[13:47] <nathans80> hows it going
[13:47] <chrisxcx> wondering if 11.04 with gnome 3 is stable?
[13:47] <sneakyarie1> wicked
[13:48] <ubuntubhoy> need help fixing aspect ratio on Nvidia if anyone can help
[13:48] <chrisxcx> use ATI
[13:48] <RevSpecies116> chrisxcx: GNOME3 guts 2.X and Unity - so not stable...
[13:48] <nathans80> wondering if anyone can help with a problem i am having all new windows(popups preferences menus even fullscreen from youtube is opening in my second monitor) any idea how to fix this
[13:48] <sneakyarie1> where can I find a forum about alien-technology ?
[13:49] <RevSpecies116> sneakyarie1: Not here...
[13:49] <|ntegra|> lol
[13:49] <sneakyarie1> xD
[13:49] <RenaKunisaki> try Mars
[13:49] <cipherboy> Nathans80: is your cursor on the second on the second monitor when you launch a window? What version are you using?
[13:49] <sneakyarie1> I discovered a colour based code
[13:49] <nathans80> nope
[13:50] <nathans80> running ati catalyst
[13:50] <cipherboy> What version of ubuntu are you using and what window manager?
[13:50] <nathans80> ubuntu 10.10
[13:51] <chrisxcx> RevSpecies116: I tried gnome 3 and liked it. do I have any other debian derivative options
[13:52] <nathans80> using the multi display desktop with displays 2 as i cannot get xirerama to work with the other option
[13:52] <fellipe> hi friends. do anyone know something like remastersys to take a snapshot of a ubuntu server wich has no GUI ?
[13:52] <RevSpecies116> I{ think openSUSE uses G3
[13:52] <chrisxcx> openSUES is debian?
[13:53] <llutz_> not really
[13:53] <Rahmat> root@perl:~# apt-get install build-essential
[13:53] <Rahmat> Reading package lists... Done
[13:53] <Rahmat> Building dependency tree... Done
[13:53] <Rahmat> E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[13:53] <RevSpecies116> 1st cousins
[13:53] <chrisxcx> fedora is option, but I like debian
[13:54] <|ntegra|> who cares?
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> Rahmat: try sudo apt-cache search build
[13:54] <chrisxcx> i wonder is debian mint with gnome 3 installed would work?
[13:54] <ghallab> hi install ubuntu 10.04 in my laptop lenovo g560 and i have  a problem with touchpad is not working
[13:54] <rqven> I need some help with my wireless connection who work fine and then have a big lag : http://pastebin.com/XH17w6PM
[13:54] <Rahmat> root@perl:~# apt-cache search build
[13:54] <Rahmat> cracklib-runtime - runtime support for password checker library cracklib2
[13:54] <Rahmat> dpkg - package maintenance system for Debian
[13:54] <Rahmat> binutils - The GNU assembler, linker and binary utilities
[13:54] <FloodBot1> Rahmat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:54] <cipherboy_loc> Rahmat: what version?
[13:55] <Rahmat> how to cek version?
[13:55] <Rahmat> i am new be
[13:55] <cipherboy_loc> $ lsb_release
[13:55] <Rahmat> blank
[13:55] <ghallab> help please its urgent
[13:55] <cipherboy_loc> Sorry, lsb_release -c
[13:56] <RevSpecies116> Who is 'its urgent'?
[13:56] <Rahmat> root@perl:~# lsb_release -c
[13:56] <Rahmat> Codename:       gutsy
[13:56] <llutz_> !gutsy
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> Rahmat: gutsy no longer exists
[13:56] <llutz_> Rahmat: get something not as old as that dead fish
[13:56] <RevSpecies116> Gutsy is long gone
[13:56] <Rahmat> so?
[13:56] <RevSpecies116> No support now for that, Rahmat
[13:56] <cipherboy_loc> rahmat: so the repositories have been removed.
[13:56] <rqven> nobody know what happen with  my wifi?
[13:57] <Rahmat> i must re install new os ?
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> Rahmat: yes
[13:57] <cipherboy_loc> No, you can just upgrade it.
[13:57] <Rahmat> ok thanks you guest
[13:57] <Rahmat> oh
[13:57] <RevSpecies116> Rahmat, yep. And 10.04LTS Server may be your best bet
[13:57] <Rahmat> how to upgrade?
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> Rahmat: there are no spare parts anymore for gutsy
[13:57] <Sidewinder1> Rahmat, In order to get current ver. back up all data and fresh install one of the current versions; might I suggest Lucid Lyna, 10.04?
[13:58] <Rahmat> i just by vps and ready to use
[13:58] <kickar> gey guys I have a database with latin1 encoding but it contain a cirilyc text, on my one uybuntu server it works fine on the other one is messed up, can someoine help me?
[13:58] <kickar> hey*
[13:58] <chrisxcx> will 10.10 work better with gnome 3?
[13:58] <rqven> !ask What is the problem with my wireless connection : http://pastebin.com/XH17w6PM, it work fine and then have a big lag!
[13:58] <llutz_> Rahmat: you just bought? must be very very cheap....
[13:58] <RevSpecies116> Rahmat, the only 'supported' upgrade from GG is to upgrade to HH, then upgrade to II, and then JJ, then KK, and then onto LL
[13:58] <Sidewinder1> vps?
[13:58] <cipherboy_loc> sidewinder1: virtual private server
[13:59] <mollonado> kickar: google how to use iconv to change the encoding
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> ciphetThanx :-)
[13:59] <Rahmat> hmm
[13:59] <Rahmat> ok thanks all for your informations
[13:59] <totem> Rahmat: hai singkong
[14:00] <Rahmat> ya totem?
[14:00] <Rahmat> you know me?
[14:00] <Sidewinder1> Obviously...
[14:00] <VegBerg> Hello
[14:00] <chrisxcx> what desktop does debian squeeze use?
[14:00] <chrisxcx> bye
[14:00] <llutz_> chrisxcx: default gnome
[14:01] <chrisxcx> 2
[14:01] <bazhang> chrisxcx, ask in #debian
[14:01] <skarufue> hello. i am trying to setup a public bridge between a ubunu 10.04 guest and a ubuntu 10.04 host and the internet. my bridge is called br0 and all seems to be fine. i installed my guests with virt-install. i use the virtio NIC. but noe i have no idea as to what might be the right network configuration for my guest. and i google doesnt seem to by my friend today. there is lots of talk about vm-builder and its automagic. but no example /etc/
[14:01] <skarufue> network/interfaces files for guests
[14:01] <skarufue> mind you i dont have a public IP for every VM
[14:02] <ghallab> i have problem with mouse and toupad in my laptop (lenovo g560) it seems the drivers is not working any one have an idea how to resolve this please
[14:03] <VegBerg> What's the most light-weight desktop enviroment which is easy to configure?
[14:03] <VegBerg> awesome-wm?
[14:03] <skarufue> enlightenment
[14:03] <Sidewinder1> mint?
[14:03] <Sidewinder1> puppy?
[14:04] <Sidewinder1> Not sure they have desktop...
[14:04] <VegBerg> K
[14:04] <bazhang> Sidewinder1, since those are not DE and are offtopic here why mention them
[14:04] <bazhang> VegBerg, lxde and openbox aka lubuntu
[14:04] <MisterShantam> hello all, I have not been here before.  I am interested in installing Ubuntu onto a USB stick, would like to know if it can be done.
[14:04] <fellipe> hi friends. do anyone know something like remastersys to take a snapshot of a ubuntu server wich has no GUI ?
[14:05] <VegBerg> K, thx.
[14:05] <VegBerg> flwm
[14:05] <VegBerg> ?
[14:05] <ghallab> help please
[14:05] <bazhang> MisterShantam, unetbootin can do that
[14:05] <droope> Hi! is there an dpkg magician arround? I have changed the version of python manually, and I want it to let ubuntu know about it so I can install emesene2.1 :) Thanks!
[14:05] <Sidewinder1> bazhang,    Sorry, he/she asked and chanel is a little slow...
[14:05] <skarufue> fellipe: if you run it in a VM which you should it is easy
[14:05] <bazhang> Sidewinder1, channel being slow has nothing to do with going offtopic
[14:06] <llutz_> Sidewinder1: he asked for a DE, not other distros
[14:06] <Sidewinder1> bazhang, Won't happen again... :-)
[14:06] <fellipe> skarufue: hi, in fact it is for the firewall
[14:06] <fellipe> :S
[14:06] <Sidewinder1> My bad... llutz_
[14:07] <skarufue> fellipe: is it QEMU/KVM?
[14:07] <MisterShantam> bazhang, thanks for that I will have to look into it.
[14:08] <bazhang> MisterShantam, unetbootin.sourceforge.net if you are on windows
[14:08] <fellipe> skarufue: is QEMU something like virtual box? and what's KVM?
[14:08] <droope> Hi! is there an dpkg magician arround? I have changed the version of python manually, and I want it to let ubuntu know about it so I can install emesene2.1 :) Thanks!
[14:08] <skarufue> fellipe: yes qemu is something like virtualbox and KVM helps qemu to be faster
[14:09] <fellipe> skarufue: hum, I see... so, the firewall cannot be virtualized, right?
[14:09] <fellipe> so, it's a physical machine
[14:09] <fellipe> and I'd like to don't power it off
[14:10] <fellipe> that's why something like remastersys
[14:10] <fillayu> hi
[14:10] <skarufue> fellipe: well if its just a software aka iptables firewall then yes it can be virtualized
[14:10] <fillayu> how to manage  and set the gnome theme
[14:10] <MisterShantam> bazhang, thanks for the link I an currently on my android phone.
[14:11] <fellipe> skarufue: well...it could be a issue...
[14:12] <skarufue> fellipe: maybe you should tell us what exactly you want to achive.
[14:13] <skarufue> fellipe: i.E. i want to backup my firewall so that i can have a failover version of it sitting around
[14:13] <perlsyntax> How long is ubuntu 10.10 supported to?
[14:13] <hiexpo> 12 / 4
[14:14] <perlsyntax> tha good to hear.I hope wicd support python 2.7 soon.
[14:14] <fellipe> skarufue: well, I want to backup the entire filesystem, obviously without /proc  /tmp... stuffs like theses, neither squid cache and spool...
[14:15] <llutz_> fellipe: rsync with some excludes
[14:15] <skarufue> fellipe: and youll need theese backups later on for?
[14:15] <nopz___> Hi, I need some help with rsyslog. I want to apply a template on a rule, but I don't know how to do that, it's not working
[14:15] <nopz___> $template, MessageOnly,"%msg%"
[14:15] <balazsbela> Hello all. Is there any way to turn my ubuntu pc into a wireless router ? I have an ethernet connection and would like to share my connection through wireless with my phone
[14:16] <nopz___> :msg, contains, "zoid" ?MessageOnly
[14:16] <llutz_> !ics | balazsbela look at this or try to find out if your wifi-driver supports ap-mode
[14:16] <skarufue> balazsbela: you wlan NIC needs to support AP mode. which is rare i think
[14:16] <[THC]AcidRain> ive never heard of a wireless transmitter for a desktop
[14:16] <[THC]AcidRain> unless u use a router...
[14:17] <llutz_> [THC]AcidRain: any usb/pci wifi-adapter does
[14:17] <[THC]AcidRain> oh rly....
[14:17] <[THC]AcidRain> man dude u learn so much just hanging out in here round u guys
[14:18] <theos> hi! which is a decent software to edit flash objects in ubuntu?
[14:19] <theos> like editing .swf and .fla files
[14:20] <MisterShantam> very busy here, thanks for the help
[14:21] <theos> ok
[14:21] <MisterShantam> goodbye all
[14:23] <szal> awolfson: lol, your host cloak highlights me ;)
[14:23] <theos> halp?
[14:30] <edbian> Anybody here?  I'm itching to help
[14:31] <peter__> is anyone else using a dell xps laptop with ubuntu?
[14:32] <edbian> peter__: What problem are you having?
[14:33] <peter__> edbian: I occasionally have overheating problems, and from what I've googled it looks like a design flaw in the heat sink... I didn't know if running ubuntu helped/harmed that problem at all
[14:34] <edbian> peter__: You can add sensors to Ubuntu (and windows I'm sure) and see which runs hotter.
[14:35] <peter__> edbian: I can just get these from software center right?
[14:35] <edbian> peter__: Well the software sensors are kind of tricky to install.  I am looking up right now to do it to remind myself.
[14:36] <theos> hi! which is a decent software to edit flash objects in ubuntu?
[14:36] <edbian> peter__: Would you like to do it together?  I think I have remembered what to do.
[14:36] <peter__> edbian: that'd be great
[14:37] <edbian> peter__: First thing.  install lm-sensors package
[14:37] <skarufue> does anyone here use a bridged kvm network setup and can supply me with a example guest /etc/network/interfaces. thankyou
[14:37] <peter__> edbian: 'sudo apt-get install lm-sensors' works fine?
[14:37] <edbian> peter__: yeah
[14:38] <peter__> edbian: ok done
[14:38] <edbian> peter__: Are you using 11.04 ? with unity?
[14:38] <peter__> edbian: yes I am
[14:39] <RenaKunisaki> man update-apt-xapi sure likes to hammer the disk
[14:39] <edbian> peter__: Can you add applets to the panel at the top?  I can't remember.  There is an applet called 'hardware sensors monitor' that is handy.  Shows the temperatures at all times.
[14:39] <RenaKunisaki> and choke the CPU in the process
[14:39] <edbian> peter__: Otherwise you have to keep running the command in the terminal to see the actual temperatures
[14:40] <peter__> edbian: I haven't tried it yet, and I'm not completely sure how to do it
[14:40] <edbian> peter__: At the top there is a bar.  Rigth click it.  Can you choose 'add to panel' ?
[14:40] <owen> join #boxee
[14:42] <peter__> edbian: this seems like a dumb question but how do I start it?
[14:42] <edbian> peter__: I'm reading here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10597/can-i-use-gnome-applets-in-unity   That you can't have applets in unity so we can stop wasting our time
[14:42] <edbian> peter__: run sudo sensors-detect     This tells the software to scan the hardware and see what sensors are present to read from. It asks you many questions.  If any of them confuse you ask me.
[14:42] <x-ip> which is the development ubuntu channel ? :)
[14:43] <sagaci> x-ip: #ubuntu-devel, #ubuntu-motu
[14:43] <x-ip> thanks sagaci :)
[14:43] <sagaci> among others
[14:44] <jimjam> quick poll, what are people's favourite IRC clients and why?
[14:44] <Pici> !poll
[14:44] <jimjam> pici: haha that was fast :)
[14:45] <jimjam> thanks
[14:46] <sagaci> !info ubiquity | x-ip
[14:46] <x-ip> thanks again sagaci :)
[14:47] <cordiceps> sup
[14:47] <sagaci> if it's in main, it's free
[14:47] <myrmidette> how do I give a specific user read/write permissions to a specific folder (and all subfolders) in ~ directory?
[14:47] <peter__> edbian: thanks, but it isn't really giving me an actual temp reading
[14:47] <cordiceps> Ubuntu: An ancient African word meaning "can't install Debian"
[14:47] <edbian> peter__: When it's done you run 'sensors'  to read out the actual temperatures
 how do I give a specific user read/write permissions to a specific folder (and all subfolders) in MY ~ directory?
[14:47] <edbian> peter__: the sensors-detect thing must be done first
[14:48] <myrmidette> cordiceps, it actually means I can't install slackware
[14:48] <myrmidette> debian is pretty easy to install
[14:48] <skarufue> pah slackware
[14:48] <Wessix> hi there, is there a workaround to install lubuntu via pxe?
[14:48] <peter__> edbian: yes I ran sudo sensors-detect
[14:48] <edbian> myrmidette: Does it have to be a specific user?  How about I make it so any user can read / write
[14:48] <edbian> peter__: So now run 'sensors'
[14:49] <peter__> edbian: oh thanks... got it now
[14:49] <edbian> peter__: good :)
[14:49] <myrmidette> edbian, just one
[14:49] <cordiceps> damn!! almos 2000 nicks...
[14:49] <myrmidette> it has to be a specific user
[14:49] <Pici> cordiceps: Did you have a support question?
[14:49] <Sidewinder1> 1627
[14:49] <cordiceps> is ubuntu channel the largest in all freenode?
[14:49] <edbian> myrmidette: sudo chown you:them /path/to/file
[14:49] <xskydevilx> When I switch to a different theme, all the fonts change except the ones on the panel (and the global menu which I have installed), on GNOME. Any ideas?
[14:49] <myrmidette> I think it can be done by making a group and adding him
[14:49] <edbian> myrmidette: sudo chmod 770 /path/to/file
[14:49] <edbian> myrmidette: That's one way
[14:50] <cordiceps> Pici: as a matter of a fackt I do.
[14:50] <myrmidette> edbian, do those two commands do the same thing?
[14:50] <sagaci> cordiceps: perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:50] <BlouBlou> cordiceps: yes. Now, do you have any *support* question?
[14:50] <edbian> myrmidette: To be clear.  chown -R you:theGroupYou'reBothIn /path/to/file      This makes it so you are the owner and that group is the group owner
[14:50] <cordiceps> BlouBlou: I said I do.
[14:50] <sagaci> cordiceps: then what is it
[14:51] <edbian> myrmidette: The second command describes what those people (you and those in the group) can actually do to do the file.  -R does it to all files / folders under that folder.
[14:51] <edbian> myrmidette: Are you confused?
[14:51] <myrmidette> This makes it so you are the owner and that group is the group owner << please explain that
[14:51] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i limit the size of a certain directory. what im trying to do is setup and ftp server with a limit of 100GIG on each folder on the drive
[14:51] <cordiceps> some kubuntu/ubuntu recent version states that it does NOT have XDMPC support. That's a major wtf, I want to install kubuntu on qemu and remote login.
[14:52] <myrmidette> edbian, I have a crystal clear undrestading of chmod but that's not what I need
[14:52] <Squarism> "aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd/24" means network has a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 right?
[14:52] <cordiceps> Why is XDMPC absent??
[14:52] <edbian> myrmidette: Every file has an owner.  (that is clear right?)  Every file also has a group that owns it.  We're gonna make a group you're both in and make that the group owner
[14:52] <Gilos_> Squarism, yes
[14:52] <cordiceps> running emulated display is unnecessary overhead.
[14:52] <edbian> myrmidette: What questions do you have?
[14:52] <myrmidette> edbian, so chown -R you:theGroupYou'reBothIn /path/to/file also makes that group?
[14:52] <edbian> myrmidette: No, we never created the group :P
[14:52] <Pici> cordiceps: I was under impression that the newer versions of GDM does not support XDMCP login.
[14:53] <edbian> myrmidette: Wanna do that?
[14:53] <myrmidette> edbian, yes
[14:53] <mady> quel est sujet du jour ?
[14:53] <edbian> myrmidette: sudo groupadd groupName
[14:53] <Pici> !fr | mady
[14:53] <sabiancrash_cgx> Temps cannot be colder than absolute 0. (-459.67F)
[14:53] <edbian> myrmidette: groupName is a variable ;)
[14:53] <myrmidette> oh it's that simple ty edbian
[14:53] <cordiceps> Pici: what about kubuntu?
[14:53] <edbian> myrmidette: We still have to add people to it
[14:53] <myrmidette> oh
[14:54] <myrmidette> enlighten me edbian
[14:54] <Pici> cordiceps: Hm. I'm not entirely sure.
[14:54] <edbian> myrmidette: Looking that up right now
[14:54] <python_jay> hm...
[14:54] <edbian> myrmidette: sudo usermod -g newGroup you
[14:54] <edbian> myrmidette: What is the name of the group?
[14:54] <d_atharva> HI,how can I copy the setup of libre office from 11.04 machine and install it on a machine with 10.10 ?
[14:55] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i limit the size of a certain directory. what im trying to do is setup and ftp server with a limit of 100GIG on each folder on the drive
[14:55] <deplyment> how do I add run as root to the menu of nautilus?
[14:55] <myrmidette> edbian, let's make it "ftp"
[14:55] <llutz_> sabiancrash_cgx: stop your daily nonsense please
[14:55] <myrmidette> I'm trying to set up a read-only ftp server
[14:55] <edbian> myrmidette: k
[14:56] <edbian> myrmidette: so then the other one would be sudo usermod -g ftp otherUser
[14:56] <myrmidette> well, with write permissions for specific people
[14:56] <edbian> myrmidette: sure
[14:56] <[THC]AcidRain> deplyment: goto system --> admin --> menu.  add a menu item under accessories "sudo nautilus"
[14:57] <llutz_> edbian: DON'T use usermod -G   without -a on an existing user
[14:57] <thiebaude> !gksudo
[14:57] <[THC]AcidRain> i take that back. its system --> preferences
[14:57] <edbian> llutz_: please explain?
[14:57] <llutz_> < edbian> myrmidette: sudo usermod -g newGroup you           will "you" kick out from all groups except newGroup
[14:58] <edbian> llutz_: This does not explain that!  :(   http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-add-user-to-group/
[14:58] <edbian> myrmidette: Did you already run that command?
[14:58] <llutz_> edbian: man usermod
[14:58] <edbian> llutz_: Thanks
[14:58] <deplyment> AcidRain: I got something before that just let me rigth click a folder and it's then says here as root..
[14:58] <deplyment> Password then your in..
[14:58] <commander-ape> my apt-get gives me a strange error -> Can't locate Dpkg.pm . How can I fix this? http://pastebin.com/8zZF63cw
[14:58] <llutz_> edbian: simple thing to kick you from admin-group, time to get your live-cd to repair
[14:58] <[THC]AcidRain> deplyment: hmmmm
[14:58] <edbian> llutz_:
[14:58] <edbian> myrmidette: oh boy.  I'm sorry
[14:59] <edbian> myrmidette: Are you still there?  Can you sudo?
[14:59] <myrmidette> I haven't run it yet don't worry
[14:59] <llutz_> edbian: better use "sudo adduser user group"  to add a user to a group
[14:59] <edbian> oh thank god
[14:59] <edbian> llutz_: To avoid the -a thing?
[14:59] <szal> Pici: thx
[14:59] <popey> commander-ape: that doesn't look like a standard install of ubuntu
[14:59] <popey> commander-ape: is it a server?
[14:59] <commander-ape> yes
[14:59] <llutz_> edbian: to avoid hazzle :)
[14:59] <popey> commander-ape: is it a VPS or something?
[15:00] <commander-ape> no - its a root server
[15:00] <popey> commander-ape: with a customised build of Ubuntu?
[15:00] <edbian> llutz_: ok thanks again
[15:00] <cordiceps> ffffuuuuu!! so how to connect remotely??
[15:00] <edbian> myrmidette: You can also use the GUI which is perhaps even more clear
[15:00] <cordiceps> and why was XDMPC dropped?
[15:00] <osmosis_paul> hi guys, i have a critical issue i was working in a remote machine, but i did not realize that was my machine, i dont know exactly what happened i think i remove admin group of my computer or something, but now when i try to give my user super root privilege sudo tell me this
[15:00] <icomera> hi, I newly installed nagios, but when i got to localhost/nagios, I got 404-Not Found. anyone can help?
[15:00] <myrmidette> edbian, good idea
[15:00] <commander-ape> popey: i dont htink its a custom build - uname says 2.6.28-14-server
[15:00] <osmosis_paul> "user is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[15:00] <edbian> myrmidette: sure
[15:00] <osmosis_paul> any idea please?
[15:00] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i limit the size of a certain directory. what im trying to do is setup and ftp server with a limit of 100GIG on each folder on the drive
[15:01] <mady> documentation ubuntu server 10.10
[15:01] <popey> commander-ape: does the following command work:-  dpkg --configure -a
[15:01] <tsyj2007> 大家好
[15:02] <szal> commander-ape: 2.6.28?  what version is that? -> cat /etc/issue
[15:02] <mady> I dont unterstand
[15:02] <szal> !cn | tsyj2007
[15:02] <netyire> tsyj2007: 歡迎到台灣！
[15:02] <commander-ape> popey: same error message
[15:02] <commander-ape> szal:  ubuntu 9.04
[15:02] <[THC]AcidRain> the hell...
[15:02] <szal> commander-ape: that thing is dead & NOT supported here
[15:03] <popey> commander-ape: sadly thats an unsupported release these days
[15:03] <jimjam> THC
[15:03] <jimjam> sorry
[15:03] <jimjam> THC: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=996603
[15:03] <commander-ape> i thought i might ask anyways
[15:03] <osmosis_paul> please help
[15:03] <jimjam> [THC]AcidRain: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=996603
[15:04] <jimjam> !quota
[15:04] <osmosis_paul> i dont know what happend with my configuration but now seems that my password for my root is not working anymore
[15:04] <jimjam> !quotatool
[15:04] <[THC]AcidRain> jimjam: that seems to be just for an entire partition though.
[15:05] <[THC]AcidRain> i only want to do certain directories
[15:05] <jimjam> meh, looked promising!
[15:06] <user17> hi, i've just installed chrome (the propietary version, not chromium), but i also have firefox installed, however, whenever i attempt to open a link in, say, xchat (or any gnome app for tht matter), it opens chrome instead of firefox, even though firefox is configured to be the default browser... wat do? :(
[15:06] <fellipe> is there a ubuntu live cd without X, gnome-desktop and theses stuffs? would be better a ubuntu server live cd... do anyone know?
[15:06] <osmosis_paul> Please somebody can tell me why suddelnly i lost my root password
[15:06] <edbian> !root
[15:06] <edbian> osmosis_paul: There is no root password
[15:07] <szal> osmosis_paul: there's no such thing as a root pwd on *buntu; if you set one up, that's not supported here
[15:07] <[THC]AcidRain> osmosis_paul: try turning caps lock off ;)
[15:07] <user17> fellipe: ubuntu Jeos maybe?
[15:07] <fellipe> user17: I don't know jeos
[15:07] <osmosis_paul> [THC]AcidRain,  caps lock off?
[15:07] <fellipe> user17: what's it?
[15:08] <Pici> fellipe: There is no live-cd that doesn't have the desktop.  The server installer and the minimal installer both install systems that don't have X or a desktop environment though.
[15:08] <[THC]AcidRain> root password is case sensetive. ive never known a case where it magically goes away
[15:08] <user17> fellipe: oh nevermind, i thought jeos was still distributed as a standalone distribution... anyway, i think you should go with the server edition
[15:08] <osmosis_paul> [THC]AcidRain, it is correct, the only that i did probably is remove one group
[15:09] <user17> fellipe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:09] <pksadiq> osmosis_paul: if you have set one , you might have to reset from the live CD, I think that the way for that might not be permitted to be said here
[15:09] <user17> fellipe: there you can select a minimal distribution
[15:09] <fellipe> user17: I will see..
[15:09] <llutz_> user17: minimal is not a live-cd
[15:09] <AcidRain> did you remove the root group?
[15:09] <AcidRain> /msg NickServer identify platinumbus383
[15:09] <AcidRain> omg
[15:09] <osmosis_paul> admin
[15:09] <user17> llutz_: as far as i know the server edition isn't a live cd either
[15:10] <jpds> AcidRain: Now you go and change that.
[15:10] <coz_> AcidRain,  ah oh,, change that passworkd now guy...yes?
[15:10] <user17> but if it is, go with server edition
[15:10] <coz_> password
[15:10] <AcidRain> yeah :/
[15:10] <llutz_> user17: he looks for a live-cd
[15:10] <user17> llutz_: i know, i'm just trying to help
[15:10] <coz_> AcidRain,  make sure when you do a command like that ,, that there is no space  before /msg
[15:11] <jpds> [or do it in the server window and not a channel]
[15:11] <Pici> osmosis_paul: you'll need to use some sort of recovery tool, be it from grub, the live cd, whatever to re-add the admin group and put your user in it.
[15:11] <old> Hello!
[15:11] <wfj> hello
[15:11] <wfj> hello old
[15:11] <wfj> hello wfj
[15:11] <AcidRain> eh... its cool. it was actually the wrong password anyways :)
[15:11] <pksadiq> AcidRain: or least don't identify yourself from any channels but at main page
[15:11] <deplyment> AcidRain: I found it (ROOT FROM HERE) apt.. inst... nautilus-gksu
[15:11] <old> Hello wfj
[15:11] <wfj> :)
[15:12] <old> #include <stdio.h>
[15:12] <[THC]AcidRain> deplyment: thats cool. im gonna add that to mine as well.
[15:13] <[THC]AcidRain> after i change all of the accounts that the password i just publically typed goes to >_>
[15:14] <llutz_> [THC]AcidRain: you'd better letter your client identify on login
[15:14] <[THC]AcidRain> llutz yeah thats what im looking for now
[15:16] <wfj> hi
[15:17] <eselle1> hi
[15:17] <eselle1> im having some trouble with samba, when I set a new password it doesnt save
[15:18] <eselle1> im using: sudo smbpasswd -a eselle
[15:18] <eselle1> but have to do it every time the machine reboots
[15:18] <phoenix_> hi
[15:19] <icomera> hi, anyone can help with my nagios installation? i got 404 not found
[15:19] <icomera> I follwed the ubuntu quickstart
[15:20] <icomera> or anyone troubleshooting guides will be appreciated
[15:24] <MrRagga> icomera: check the apache log files
[15:24] <dAnjou> hi, how can i trigger the ubuntu one sync manually or is there even a gnome2 panel applet? that can do this?
 I'm with linux there, I try to built factorize.c from gmp [16:23] <jokoon> and it doesn't find gmp.h [16:23] <jokoon> but libgmp3c2 is installed
[15:26] <pksadiq> !find gmp.h
[15:26] <szal> jokoon: the -dev too?
[15:26] <llutz_> jokoon: libgmp3-dev
[15:26] <cordiceps> jokoon: if were running Gentoo you wouldn't have that problem.
[15:27] <szal> cordiceps: useless trivia here
[15:27] <cordiceps> ubuntu is not really for development, just sayin'
[15:27] <wfj> what do you mean?
[15:28] <jokoon> all over
[15:28] <jokoon> factorize.c:(.text+0xd96): undefined reference to `__gmpz_out_str'
[15:28] <szal> jokoon: poke the devs
[15:28] <cordiceps> jokoon: install Gentoo.
[15:29] <jokoon> -_-
[15:29] <cordiceps> back to my problem, how to remote login full X?
[15:29] <CarlFK> jokoon: if you install gentoo you will have other problems and no longer care about your current problem :)
[15:29] <jimjam> !gentoo
[15:29] <pksadiq> jokoon: did you install libgmp3-dev? and while compiling you might have to link its libraries, might be gcc -lg <file> or gcc -lgmp <file> of gcc -lgmp3 <file>
[15:30] <pksadiq> *or
[15:30] <jokoon> forgot -lgmp
[15:30] <jokoon> ty
[15:30] <CarlFK> cordiceps: I think the recommended way is to use  vnc
[15:30] <jokoon> whats the diff between gcc and cc
[15:31] <jokoon> the commands
[15:31] <plagerism> jokoon: g
[15:31] <CarlFK> jokoon: nothing.  follow the symlinks
[15:32] <jokoon> ok
[15:32] <pksadiq> jokoon: I don't think there is ( now , atleat) because cc is now a symbolic link to gcc, if gcc is installed
[15:32] <mtu7618> CarlFK: or nx or x2go
[15:32] <cordiceps> CarlFK: VNC over XDMPC?
[15:32] <mtu7618> cordiceps: no xdmcp, vnc/nx/x2go instead of xdmcp
[15:32] <dAnjou> hi, how can i trigger the ubuntu one sync manually or is there even a gnome2 panel applet? that can do this?
[15:33] <cordiceps> I thought XDMPC did full render acceleration in the host as opposed to VNC that sends a bunch of jpeg images.
[15:34] <jimjam_> if you open a GUI app from, say, guake-terminal, the cursor sits on a new line below your command and just blinks while you work away. Is there a way to reclaim that terminal, or is it like 'assigned' to run that program?
[15:34] <[THC]AcidRain> does anyone have any computer informative articles they would like to donate to my website?
[15:34] <pksadiq> dAnjou: drag the Ubuntu One icon th panel, and its on the panel ;)
[15:34] <cordiceps> mtu7618: any ideas why xdmpc was dropped? something wrong with the protocol?
[15:35] <dAnjou> pksadiq: what icon?
[15:35] <szal> jimjam_: append " &" (note the space) to whatever cmd you're running
[15:35] <somethinginteres> any idea when the new LibreOffice will be available in 11.04?
[15:35] <llutz_> cordiceps: try using xdm, it should still support xdmcp
[15:35] <mtu7618> cordiceps: xdmcp does not work when client is behind nat
[15:36] <pksadiq> dAnjou: " ubuntu one " icon from your menu to panel ( I hope you need to get only a short cut to Ubuntu One on the panel), if using natty, login to classic and do this
[15:36] <cordiceps> I am not behind nat, everything is on the same computer. kubuntu on qemu guest
[15:36] <cordiceps> the thing is I wanna try this new gnome3 but it doesn't work in qemu cuz lacks 3D accel.
[15:36] <mtu7618> cordiceps: if it all runs on the same machine, then you don't need xdmcp. just a display manager.
[15:37] <cordiceps> mtu7618: how?
[15:37] <mtu7618> cordiceps: oh, you mean communication between host and guest?
[15:37] <mtu7618> cordiceps: so its actually two machines, even if one of them is virtual
[15:37] <cordiceps> mtu7618: exactly I don't wanna use qemu VGA emulator as it's slow.
[15:38] <dAnjou> pksadiq: i don't see how this solves my problem
[15:38] <mtu7618> cordiceps: you could ssh -X from host to guest
[15:39] <szal> dAnjou: if it doesn't, then you should probably explain your problem better
[15:39] <cordiceps> mtu7618: wouldn't that have unnecessary overhead?
[15:39] <dAnjou> well, i thought i did
[15:39] <nawk> Hello, I finally installted Ubuntu 11.04.  Now, I want to
[15:39] <dAnjou> hi, how can i trigger the ubuntu one sync manually or is there even a gnome2 panel applet? that can do this?
[15:39] <dAnjou> what's unclear?
[15:40] <cordiceps> mtu7618: how do I ssh X to have full deskop rather than individual apps?
[15:40] <nawk> enable 3d cube but it looks like it conflicts with unity
[15:40] <szal> dAnjou: it's unclear how the above proposal doesn't solve your problem
[15:40] <dAnjou> szal: it obviously doesn't trigger the synchronization
[15:40] <nathans80> using cario-dock i have this black space at the bottom of my screen and dont know how to get rid of it any help would be grealty appreciated
[15:41] <nathans80> it is over lapping onto my windows
[15:41] <mtu7618> cordiceps: hmm, somehow run the display manager with the display set to the number of the ssh forwarded display
[15:41] <pksadiq> dAnjou: sorry, it's my mistake ( I always make here :( )
[15:41] <nawk> nathans80, can you try rightclicking on the black region/space you are referring to?
[15:42] <nathans80> it shows me the options for the background
[15:42] <nathans80> create folder create launcher change desktop background
[15:43] <nathans80> using ati catalyst drive with the xirerama
[15:44] <cordiceps> mtu7618: where would be such an option be?
[15:44] <mtu7618> cordiceps: i don't know
[15:44] <cordiceps> ffffuuuuuu!!!111
[15:44] <mtu7618> cordiceps: i usually use NX when doing remote desktop
[15:44] <Arobaz> Hi guys, where have I to ask to get an host plz?
[15:44] <Arobaz> on IRC
[15:45] <Arobaz> to hide my DNS
[15:45] <jpds> Arobaz: → #freenode
[15:45] <Arobaz> ty
[15:46] <compdoc> spice for qemu-kvm is supposed to be good
[15:46] <mtu7618> cordiceps: is it already usable?
[15:47] <mtu7618> compdoc: is it already usable?
[15:47] <compdoc> mtu7618, it is, but I dont know how
[15:47] <mydoghasworms> I can't find Beagle in the Ubuntu repositories (10.10). What is the best way to install Beagle?
[15:48] <mtu7618> compdoc: but i guess it needs a special kms/xorg driver in the guest os?
[15:48] <compdoc> http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/getting-started-spice-fedora-12
[15:48] <szal> !info beagle lucid
[15:48] <compdoc> they have files for ubuntu as well
[15:48] <mtu7618> cordiceps: then maybe spice is for you
[15:49] <cordiceps> mtu7618: what's already usable?
[15:49] <mtu7618> cordiceps: sorry, typo in nickname
[15:49] <CooKieMonster_> anyone here know how to change dns server ip ?
[15:49] <mtu7618> cordiceps: see compdocs messages
[15:49] <iceroot> CooKieMonster_: shell, gui?
[15:50] <CooKieMonster_> gui
[15:50] <anodesni> Hi, Is it possible to install a gtk engine in your home folder and link to it in .gtrkrc-2.0? Since I don't have root access....
[15:50] <CooKieMonster_> or shell
[15:50] <llutz_> CooKieMonster_: edit networkmanager-connections, ipv4-settings
[15:51] <iceroot> CooKieMonster_: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[15:51] <_joey> every second day there are various updates released. I am getting tired of pressing the update button
[15:52] <llutz_> iceroot: will not be permanent
[15:52] <mtu7618> gotta go
[15:52] <CooKieMonster_> i tried that and it said permission denied
[15:52] <netyire> _joey: the update manager's setting window has an option to automatically install security updates
[15:52] <_joey> what's the story with ubuntu? Is it because it sucks or because the community is active updating the software?
[15:52] <nytek_> CooKieMonster_: try doing a chmod on whatever that you are having permission errors with
[15:52] <_joey> netyire: okay
[15:53] <Arobaz> test
[15:53] <nytek_> _joey: ubuntu doesnt suck, its a part of unix so its WAY powerful
[15:53] <netyire> _joey: you can update other packages as and when you want to
[15:53] <CooKieMonster_> gtg thanks
[15:53] <_joey> nytek_: linux is not UNIX
[15:53] <netyire> hmm, its funny how there isn't an 'automatically update everything' option
[15:53] <_joey> UNIX is a trademark
[15:53] <netyire> someone should demand it
[15:53]  * netyire volunteers _joey
[15:54] <nytek_> _joey: plus the package system is amazing
[15:54] <nytek_> _joey: sudo apt-get install appNAme"
[15:54] <_joey> these are two completely different OS
[15:54] <netyire> _joey: you're our guy, go forth, complain much, write emails
[15:54] <_joey> aptitude is betah
[15:54] <nytek_> _joey: is relatively the same
[15:54] <nytek_> _joey: its*
[15:54] <_joey> nah
[15:54] <pksadiq> _pedda_: Linux too is tm, i think
[15:54] <ZarroBoogs> _joey: Thats great. Do you have an actual support question, or are you just here to complain?
[15:54] <_joey> aptitude is definately better
[15:55] <szal> _joey: aptitude is not "betah", it's been around for quite some time
[15:55] <Ixopop> I have a support question
[15:55] <nimbiotics> Is there a way to print the contents of the main menu? TIA!
[15:55] <szal> !ask | Ixopop
[15:55] <ZarroBoogs> Ixopop: Don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[15:55] <llutz_> don't feed the troll please
[15:55] <netyire> Ixopop: I have found the beer, its under the tv
[15:55] <_joey> ZarroBoogs: where do you see men complaining?
[15:55]  * netyire sees
[15:55] <netyire> ZarroBoogs: I see one
[15:56]  * netyire waves at _joey
[15:56] <_joey> we are discussing the trademark and the differences between apt-get and aptitude
[15:56] <jpds> netyire: That would be man, not men.
[15:56] <netyire> _joey: :-D same difference
[15:56] <llutz_> !ot | _joey take your stuff out here please
[15:56] <ZarroBoogs> _joey: Well theres the issue, this isn't a discussion channel, its for support only.  Use #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to just discuss things.
[15:57] <_joey> how is aptitude and apt-get off-topic?
[15:57] <netyire> _joey: they start with the letter A
[15:57] <nathans80> ive tried playing with the settings in cairo-dock but its like the space is being reserved for the dock
[15:57] <_joey> i think some of the visitors here are off-topic
[15:57] <Ixopop> lol….ok - upgraded from 10.04 to 11.04 -  1st Hard drive  - 3 partitions - no issues 100gb….second drive used to be one large partition of 120gb…now reads 33gb….I am unable to fix the mbr
[15:57] <netyire> _joey: according to my understanding of our policy guidelines and Community Principles, that is offtopic
[15:57] <_joey> those who are telling others what to talk about
[15:57] <szal> _joey: if you have a usage question, fine, if you wanna talk about pros & cons, not here please
[15:58] <_joey> szal: you are off-topic
[15:58] <ZarroBoogs> _joey: aptitude is available in the repositories if you want to use it.  I use it myself, but since its not included by default I don't make my command suggests here with it.
[15:59] <genepeer> Can I get some help with upgrading Ubuntu?
[15:59] <Sidewinder1> _joey, WADR This is a "how" channel, not "why".... Sometimes which. :-)
[15:59] <szal> ZarroBoogs: fwiw, it's included by default if you install from alternate, I didn't have to install it as it was already there
[15:59] <_joey> 'don't make your command suggests'
[15:59] <Guest6029> Hello
[15:59] <szal> !ask | genepeer
[15:59] <_joey> that's not easy to understand
[16:00] <netyire> _joey: its like beer and bacon really
[16:00] <duncan> What issues are you having with your upgrade?
[16:00] <ZarroBoogs> _joey: When I tell people to install things I make sure to say: "apt-get install whatever", not "aptitude install whatever"
[16:00] <ZarroBoogs> szal: noted.
[16:00] <_joey> netyire: nah, there was a good reason why aptitude was written
[16:00] <_joey> as an alternative
[16:00] <_joey> it's like lilo and grub
[16:00]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs
[16:01] <_joey> we all knew lilo sucked, and yet many continued to use it
[16:01]  * netyire pets _joey on the back
[16:01] <_joey> so
[16:01] <genepeer> Sorry for asking to ask, not sure if I was in the right place. Anyway, I had Ubuntu 8.04 on my computer and wanted to upgrade to 10.04 using the alternate-cd. But whenever I try, the update-manager hangs. I don't see how the CD could be corrupt since I downloaded using bittorrent and wrote the CD with minimal speed.
[16:01] <_joey> actually, I did not know aptitude wasn't included in Ubuntu by default
[16:01] <_joey> let me check if I have it
[16:02] <_joey> yes, i have it
[16:02] <genepeer> does this mean I have to upgrade through the internet? I just don't want to download it all again with this slow connection
[16:02] <Guest6029> Hello, please help me I have problem on laptop Samsung RC710. When I am starting (NVIDIA driver of Menu->Additional Drivers) I goto console after restarting
[16:02] <donkeyinspace> hello, does it has to be fat system the partition to create an ubuntu live usb pen drive_
[16:02] <Sidewinder1> genepeer, Did you MD5 the ISO image prior to burning?
[16:03] <szal> genepeer: the CD should have a self test option, use it to see if you have a bad burn
[16:03] <Ixopop> is anyone aware of ubuntu 110.04 upgrade bug that impacts the MBR of secondary dirves?  My secondary drive went from a 120gb to a 33gb drive….cylinders heads sectors being reported incorrectly to BIOS
[16:03] <netyire> genepeer: the UpgradeNotes https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes only mentions upgrading to 10.04 from 8.04
[16:03] <_joey> Ixopop: some drivers on linux suck
[16:03] <szal> netyire: that's exactly what's at hand here ;)
[16:04] <genepeer> Sidewinder1, I thought torrent-software checks hashes does that on its own
[16:04] <Sidewinder1> genepeer, 8.04 is now EOL, (except server), best to back up all data and do a fresh install.
[16:04] <netyire> szal: :-)
[16:04] <`Shikhin> By default in Ubuntu, is their any DHCP server running?
[16:04] <llutz_> `Shikhin: no
[16:05] <dabbish> wn
[16:05] <tabu_musti> hello!
[16:05] <netyire> helo!
[16:05] <Sidewinder1> genepeer, Yes, it supposedly does but when downloading an OS MD5 it and you'll be certain.
[16:05] <Guest6029>  please help me I have problem on laptop Samsung RC710. When I am starting (NVIDIA driver of Menu->Additional Drivers) I goto console after restarting
[16:05] <_joey> do you like your ubuntus?:)
[16:05] <donkeyinspace> hello, does it has to be fat system the partition where to create an ubuntu live usb pen drive?
[16:06] <netyire> Guest6029: that can be resolved. change the driver 'nvidia' to 'nv' in the Xorg config file.
[16:06] <`Shikhin> llutz_: Then why does it fail and why does syslog contain the following: http://pastebin.com/6aQYmWUm
[16:06] <savid> How do I make the panel appear on my secondary monitor in Natty?
[16:06] <_joey> donkeyinspace: if you want to use your pen drive elsewhere
[16:06] <Sidewinder1> donkeyinspace, I believe that it should be ext3 or ext4.
[16:06] <szal> netyire: does nv still exist?
[16:06] <Guest6029> netyire: thank I will try now
[16:07] <netyire> szal: hmm, good question. lemme google that, hold on a second Guest6029
[16:07] <Ixopop> joey any idea how to repair y MBR for the secondary drive with the sucky ubuntu drivers?
[16:07] <szal> nv was obsoleted when nVidia thought that nouveau was stable enough for everyday use
[16:07] <_joey> with mbr/fdisk i guess
[16:07] <_joey> Ixopop:
[16:07] <donkeyinspace> _joey, do you mean that specific partition?
[16:08] <genepeer> Sidewinder1, I thought so too but interestingly enough the Update Manager recognizes that the new available 10.04.2 LTS but says I'll have to download nearly 1GB. This could take 6hrs here. I think I'll run the CD Self-test option and if nothing turns up I'll have no option but to download the whole 1GB :(
[16:08] <_joey> mbr is not partion specific
[16:08] <llutz_> `Shikhin: desktop or server? desktop definetly doesn't run dhcpd by default
[16:08] <_joey> it's hdd specific
[16:08] <Ixopop> sigh - tried that Joey - the changes wont keep
[16:09] <_joey> what is the problem anyway? I missed it
[16:09] <`Shikhin> `Shikhin: Desktop. If it doesn't how the heck do I solve this problem? Want to see my dhcpd.conf file (if it makes any difference).
[16:09] <netyire> Guest6029: looks like that fix won't work. I apologize, I solved it this way back in an earlier version of Ubuntu. Uninstalling the nvidia-glx package should do the trick
[16:09] <Ixopop> after upgrading from 10.04 to 11.04 - my 2nd disk was resized from 120gb to 33gb - it is even reporting incorrectly to bios
[16:09] <netyire> _joey: bacon or beer?
[16:10] <tabu_musti> I use Ubuntu 11.04. I installed 22 extension on chromium-browser. But i have a problem with Chrome. It is always use from cpu. also when i open a page, it use minimum 60 mb and it increase on 400 mb... That is a problem right ? i re-installed it but after extension it always make the same problem. but i change all extensions with alternatives but the same problem still... So we can't use with extension the chrome ?
[16:10] <netyire> _joey: now, have you heard of the principle of complementarity?
[16:10] <Sidewinder1> genepeer, The problem is that you can no longer update Hardy (without jumping through hoops) as it is EOL and updating is necessary when upgrading through update mgr. That's why I suggested a fresh install. I hope that makes sense.
[16:10] <Guest6029> netyire Now I have Ubuntu 10.10
[16:11] <_joey> donkeyinspace: delete all your partions, rewrite the mbr. Mount the new partion using "linux utilities" . Some people use ms-windows/dos utilities and then have problems with disk partions under linux
[16:11] <th0r> tabu_musti: sounds like you should be complaining to the extension developers.
 Try or not? nvidia to nv?
[16:11] <_joey> netyire: i haven't heard of that principle. What is it and how it's related to ubuntu?
[16:11] <_joey> is it complementing other linux distributions?
[16:12] <genepeer> Ok then, I hate having to reconfigure Ubuntu everytime after a fresh-install!
[16:12] <netyire> Guest6029: remove the nvidia-glx package, I don't believe the old solution will work in 10.10 -- there is no longer an Xorg.conf file
[16:12] <Ixopop> thanks _Joey - i'll give that a try
[16:12] <tabu_musti> th0r: ok but after i change all extension the same problem still . So this is a problem of chrome 90% ... ? right ?
[16:12] <donkeyinspace> _joey, dont know what mbr is but going to google it
[16:13] <tase> how the fk did 11.04 pass quality testing
[16:13] <rinkukokiri> tase,  i agree.... it's very broken
[16:13] <`Shikhin> llutz_: : Desktop. If it doesn't how the heck do I solve this problem? Want to see my dhcpd.conf file (if it makes any difference).
[16:13] <szal> tase: how the fk did you pass face control at the entrance? :P
[16:14] <tase> i used the back entrance
[16:14] <Guest6029> I tried to install last version nvidia from site. The version create xorg.conf on my PC
[16:14] <llutz_> `Shikhin: "pgrep dhcpd"
[16:14] <brown_fern> genepeer: I would not rule out buying a professionally pressed disk of your preferred flavor of Linux, online, at the news stand, or elsewhere.
 I tried to install last version nvidia from site. The version create xorg.conf on my PC
[16:15] <_joey> netyire: is ubuntu a complemntary distribution, is it of secondary importance, is that what you were saying?
[16:15] <netyire> _joey: it is a complex idea, which would require volumes to explain. http://lbw2001.ynfonatic.de/images/ht_s.jpg is helpful though. It is related to the motivation for your questions.
[16:15] <`Shikhin> llutz_: Displays nothing (which I guess means that dhcp isn't running)...
[16:15] <netyire> Guest6029: compiled and installed from scratch?
[16:16] <grendal-prime> Apple people crack me up..they are all going crazy over this cloud file server BS.. they described the service to me.. and I had to laugh, I've been using ubuntu one for over a year now.  Its the same thing..
[16:16] <`Shikhin> llutz_: Just for the info, I use 'isc-dhcp-server'.
[16:16] <grendal-prime>  the only difference is apple gets to punish you for not having itunes music by charging you 24 bucks a year.
[16:17] <grendal-prime> hheeh
[16:17] <grendal-prime> anyway...
[16:17] <axisys> I have a xymon script that alerts if the /var/lib/apt/lists/lock or /var/lib/apt/periodic/update-stamp file is older than 7 days .. is that necessary?
[16:17] <axisys> what is it mean if those two files are older than 7 days
[16:18] <netyire> Guest6029: hi again, the Xorg.conf file has been moved in 10.10 to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
 I load nvidia's script (NVIDIA-Linix-x86.260.19.44.run) from nvidia's then stoped X, then begin start the script NVIDIA-Linix-x86.260.19.44.run. After I have only console mode
[16:19] <szal> netyire: not entirely correct..  xorg.conf.d/ contains individual files for what used to be in xorg.conf, and if you have a xorg.conf, it'll be preferred
[16:19] <`Shikhin> llutz_: Any suggestions?
[16:19] <netyire> Guest6029: this is different from my experience with nvidia-drivers, one moment while I look this up for you
[16:20] <szal> netyire: plus, the nVidia driver will (usually) create a xorg.conf
[16:20] <netyire> szal: zonks! I am as ancient as beer :-/
[16:20] <compdoc> netyire is as bitter as old beer?
[16:20] <nimbiotics> Is there a way to print the contents of the main menu? TIA!
[16:20] <Guest6029> After start script by NVIDIA-Linix-x86.260.19.44.run I see xorg.conf
[16:20] <netyire> compdoc: oh, you ;-)
[16:21] <tjiggi_fo> axisys, is update manager set to check for updates weekly?
[16:21] <MIH1406> Hi, i am looking for an open source/free software works like "Working Model" http://www.design-simulation.com/wm2d/index.php
[16:21] <MIH1406> Is there any for Ubuntu?
[16:22] <axisys> tjiggi_fo: i do not know.. i forgot which file to check for that
[16:22] <MIH1406> any help out there?
[16:22] <nikotman> hi there
[16:22] <netyire> Guest6029: there is one lead, http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-nvidia-graphics-driver-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat, recommend renaming /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old and rebooting
[16:22] <`Shikhin> Anyone for me? :-)
[16:23] <axisys> tjiggi_fo: lets say it is set for 7 days.. so the lock files needs to be newer than 7 days?
[16:23] <nikotman> any one gona haelp me?
[16:23] <End> hi fellas
[16:23] <Pici> !ask | nikotman
[16:23] <nikotman> ok
[16:23] <mervaka> MIH1406: http://www.opencascade.org/ maybe?
[16:24] <nimbiotics> While trying to install GIMP, im getting a 'Package dependencies cannot be resolved' error. Full message at http://paste.ubuntu.com/620967/. How can I fix this? TIA!
[16:24] <netyire> a voice booms from above: nikotman: what be your question!
[16:24] <nikotman> iam up to bild a lan connection bitvin apc and a laptop
[16:24] <`Shikhin> netyire: Me too! Me too! (I havr asked my question already)
[16:24] <tjiggi_fo> axisys, I'm assuming that when the file(s) are older than 7 days the script notifies update manager. You can find update manager in System> Admin
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> nimbiotics: natty?
[16:24] <nikotman> a have made it by a cross cable
[16:24] <nikotman> but
[16:25] <axisys> tjiggi_fo: this is for the server
[16:25] <nikotman> i have not the ipv6 protocils instaled
[16:25] <nimbiotics> MonkeyDust: YES
[16:25] <nimbiotics> MonkeyDust: sry
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> nikotman: please put your question in one line
[16:25] <axisys> tjiggi_fo: better yet.. which script updates those files?
[16:25] <nikotman> and i dont know how to instal them
 I done the posible one hour ago -) and write to you now from X11
[16:25] <nikotman> ok
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> nimbiotics: try booting in recovery mode
 but drivers on menu Additional Driver is not active
[16:26] <nimbiotics> MonkeyDust: and try to install GIMP inr ecovery mode?
[16:26] <tjiggi_fo> axisys, I have no idea, probably part of update manager (which must run on servers too)
[16:26] <netyire> Guest6029: I understand you have a graphical environment now, is that correct?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> nimbiotics: try to repair broken packages
[16:27] <nikotman> is it posible to share a conection bitvin a laptop and a pc by cross cable?
[16:27] <Guest6029> I can't plug second monitor to laptop nvidia don't work
[16:27] <nimbiotics> MonkeyDust: how?
[16:27] <netyire> Guest6029: yes, the nvidia drivers are yet to be installed -- I recommend using the nvidia-glx package in the Ubuntu repositories
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> nimbiotics: you' ll see, recovery mode shows a menu
[16:27] <netyire> nikotman: an internet connection, you mean?
[16:27] <nimbiotics> MonkeyDust: OIC, THX a BUNCH!
[16:27] <nikotman> yes
[16:28]  * `Shikhin wonders when someone will help him..
[16:28] <netyire> nikotman: and both systems are running Ubuntu 10.10? what cable are you using?
 I must instal or remove the <netyire>?
[16:28] <nikotman> no.cross cable
[16:28] <netyire> `Shikhin: the scroll-logs defeat me, what is your question again?
[16:29] <MIH1406> I am not a developer I want something that simulate the real physics by design not by development
 Must I install or remove the nvidia-glx?
[16:29] <netyire> Guest6029: install :-D
 --))
[16:30] <netyire> `Shikhin: I assume your question is related to _joey's :-D
[16:30] <`Shikhin> netyire: I try to run isc-dhcp-server, but if fails with syslog contain the following: http://pastebin.com/6aQYmWUm I checked and no DHCP server is running.
[16:30] <`Shikhin> netyire: I don't know _joey's question. :D
[16:30] <netyire> _joey: :-D
[16:30] <Guest6029> I have several version nvidia-glx.
[16:31] <`Shikhin> _joey: "You like Ubuntu?" question?
[16:31] <`Shikhin> netyire: Anyway, any help? :-)
[16:31] <nikotman> no.cross cable
[16:31] <netyire> `Shikhin: looking it up, one moment please
[16:32] <nikotman> no.cross cable
[16:32] <`Shikhin> Sure, take two. :-)
[16:32] <nikotman> no.cross cable
[16:32] <nikotman> no.cross cable
[16:32] <mervaka> ?
[16:32] <niko> nikotman: could you stop repeat that ?
 I have nvidia-glx-173;185;86 what to take for me?
[16:32] <netyire> Guest6029: you are using the Samsung RC7... wha?
[16:32] <nikotman> yes if u plz answer me
 RC710
[16:34] <nikotman> is it posible to share a conection bitvin a laptop and a pc by cross cable?
[16:34] <nikotman> is it posible to share a conection bitvin a laptop and a pc by cross cable?
[16:35] <sinistrad> nikotman, yes, but I think you'll need to set up a proxy server on the machine that is connected to the internet
[16:35] <`Shikhin> netyire: Here is my dhcpd.conf file: http://pastebin.com/YtAY7YRa
[16:35] <compdoc> ubuntu has been having a lot of upgraded packages lately
[16:36] <nikotman> how?
[16:36] <netyire> Guest6029: there is one lead from https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nv/+question/135997, use the package in the http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-nvidia-260-19-12-drivers-in-ubuntu-10-1010-04-using-ppa.html ppa instead of nvidia's .run package
[16:36] <nevermindr> nikotman: is it running windows or linux?
how?
 Must I install only the nvidia-glx or also driver from menu->Additional Drivers->NVIDIA acselerator grafic?
[16:36] <nevermindr> your "router"
how?
[16:36] <nikotman> wndos
[16:37] <nevermindr> google for some socks5 proxy server then
[16:37] <nikotman> sorry bodi windows
[16:37] <netyire> Guest6029: I'm sorry, that page is dead; looking for an alternative
sorry bodi windows
[16:38] <netyire> `Shikhin: this make take some time :-/
[16:38] <`Shikhin> nikotman: STOP repeating everything.
[16:38] <nikotman> ok
 primery link is work
[16:38] <sinistrad> nikotman, I'm just another user in here. You'll want to do a search for something like "ubuntu proxy server" and you'll also need to see how to set up your internet connection using a proxy server in windows as well.
[16:38] <`Shikhin> netyire: Sure. ;-) I have about 1.5 hours before I sleep.
 he's using windows, so no chance for ubuntu proxy ;)
[16:39] <myrmidette> rebooting
[16:39] <nikotman> (tnx my friend
[16:39] <nimbiotics> MonkeyDUST: I could not start in recovery mode cause I couldnt even see the grub menu. can thaqt be fixed?
[16:39] <`Shikhin> (which means, I'd love if you respond before 15 minutes, so that I can start debugging)
[16:39] <tase> What is "npviewer.bin", does it really have to do with Adobe
[16:39] <nikotman> lots of responc for ur help bodi
[16:39] <myrmidette> sorry
would u like to help me by remote assistant?
[16:40] <rinkukokiri> nikotman  if you have newer hardware, you don't need a 'cross cable'
[16:40] <sinistrad> nevermindr, Well, if one of his computers is on ubuntu and the other is windows, it might be relevant, even though it might be beyond the scope of this channel too.
[16:41] <rinkukokiri> nikotman, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Connection_Sharing
 Sorry I read 1 link but I don't see resolve the problem maybe I don't see the resolve?
[16:41] <rinkukokiri> nikotman, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306126
[16:41] <rinkukokiri> !repeat |nikotman
[16:41] <psyop> can anyone tell me how to get .mkv HD movies running on ubuntu 10.04? s:
[16:42] <psyop> vlc doesnt play them at all
[16:42] <netyire> Guest6029: I agree, it looks like the ppa they link to is dead, google does have 2 other leads -- in russian and chinese respectively and the translation is horrific to follow
[16:42] <szal> psyop: why not? -> error msg(s)
[16:42] <psyop> "couldnt determine type of stream"
[16:42] <netyire> Guest6029: am checking archive.com to see if the package is available
[16:42] <pksadiq> netyire: check the google cached version
[16:42] <sinistrad> nikotman, No thanks. I don't want to connect to anyone else's computer. I'm connected to enough already. I'm no pro on this anyhow. I don't even run windows.
[16:43] <netyire> pksadiq: :-D!
[16:43] <sidewalk> anyone around who knows what this error message means: I/O error in filesystem ("dm-4") meta-data dev dm-4 block 0xc4c0a08       ("xfs_trans_read_buf") error 11 buf count 4096
[16:43] <ubun> would ubuntu 11 work with an old computer i have (pentium 4)
 I read in russian I from Ukraine
[16:43] <sidewalk> the error messages started after upgrading to ubuntu 11.04 from 10.10
[16:43] <aeon-ltd> ubun: heh thats not old at all, yes
[16:43] <netyire> Guest6029: yay!
 You also?
[16:44] <ubun> thanks Aeon-itd: ill give it a shot
[16:44] <netyire> Guest6029: er, no :-) But tell me if http://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=14442 is relevant
[16:44] <Murphant_> Sorry to bother, but I can't seem to find a C programming language channel that's active and that doesn't need invitation, does anyone have one to suggest?
[16:45] <szal> ubun: if that thing has more than 256 MB of RAM, there shouldn't be a problem
[16:45] <netyire> Guest6029: looks like everything just links back to the nvidia .run file
[16:45] <pksadiq> Murphant_: register your nick
[16:45] <Guest6029>  <netyire> ok 3 min
[16:45] <ubun> szal: ill probably have to upgrade then
 Sorry but the link is not russian language
[16:46] <ubun> Is 256 megabite mean per slot or all together?
[16:46] <szal> !ru | Guest6029
[16:46] <netyire> Guest6029: I never was good at that language ;-) the gist of that thread just points back to the nvidia .run file you tried though :-;/
[16:47] <dforthman> ok, so here's my problem: I'm on Ubuntu 10.10. I want to upgrade to 11.04, but it's no in the Update menu and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' only wants to upgrade flash-installler and chrome. I have the 11.04 iso, but no disks. How do I upgrade?
[16:47] <`Shikhin> netyire: Any lead?
[16:47] <szal> !dist-upgrade
[16:47] <szal> dforthman: --^
[16:48] <netyire> `Shikhin: many, nothing specific yet though -- am mulling over Guest6029 nvidia issue :-(, apologies
[16:48] <dforthman> !upgrade
[16:48] <`Shikhin> netyire: No problem. :-)
[16:48] <netyire> :-)
[16:49] <PalinBachman2012> Compiz/Unity is disappearing windows when I right click and say 'Send to desktop x' where x is a number
[16:49] <siddhion> hey, how can i configure ubuntu 10.04 to ask for password upon restart, hibernation and standby?
[16:49] <nimbiotics> I need to start in recovery mode but since upgradind to 11.03, i cannot see grub at startup. how can i start in recovery mode? TIA!
[16:49] <omni_> How do you find what domain you are apart of?
[16:50] <Pici> nimbiotics: hold shift while booting to see the grub menu.
[16:50] <brown_fern> Ubun: Yes, I'm no expert, but I would think that an Intel Pentium 4 could definitely handle Ubuntu 11.04, remember to backup any files you want to keep and that it's possible to resize partitions in order to make room for Linux if a Microsoft Windows partition is taking up the entire volume.
[16:50] <PalinBachman2012> Also, compiz 'Place winders' is not assigning winders to their proper place
[16:51] <dforthman> szal, is there a way to use the iso i have to upgrade without burning it to a cd?
[16:52] <blackshirt> dforthman: yeah, you can use it
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> dforthman: put it on a usb stick
[16:52] <dforthman> I don't have my USB stick :( I'm on vacation and forgot it
[16:52] <triptonita> hi
[16:52] <siddhion> any idea on how to enable password after restart, suspend and hibernation?
[16:52] <Dommer> oshit, my xchat window is stuck at fullscreen....  Now do I get it out?....  Is there like a hey?
[16:52] <triptonita> I recently installed the latest ubuntu
[16:52] <Dommer> key*
[16:52] <triptonita> but it doesn't use gnome anymore
[16:53] <LekeFly> How can i boot ubuntu into recovery mode from alt + ctrl + f1 ?
[16:53] <triptonita> how can I go back to old classic gnome
[16:53] <omni_> Dommer,  to quit Xchat all together?
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> LekeFly: sudo init 6
[16:53] <rinkukokiri> triptonita, it /DOES/ use gnome, but it also uses unity... to use classic gnome log out, then when logging in, in the session area, select "ubuntu classic"
[16:53] <netyire> Guest6029: all ppa links are down, but http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1597178 suggests uninstalling the .run file and installing nvidia-current
[16:53] <dAnjou> maybe someone here knows a solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/47490/how-can-i-change-the-icon-of-a-specific-device
[16:53] <Pici> !classic | triptonita
[16:53] <Dommer> well, that to, but I don't have a bar at the top - omni_
[16:54] <watcher> hi folks - im using IPC::Run on ubuntu to run a java jmx shell app
[16:54] <watcher> however i cannot see any output - ive read the documentation but it appears trivial but im stomped - no OUTPUT
[16:54] <watcher> help
[16:54] <rinkukokiri> considering that needs it's own infotip, i do think unity was a bad idea.
[16:54] <`Shikhin> !unity
 OK I am reading the link
[16:55] <dforthman> mainly, this hotel's internet connection is slow. it took six hours to download the 11.04 iso. I don't mind updating everything, then upgrading with the update manager, but it keeps failing due to latency
[16:55] <netyire> Guest6029: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1590243.html ends with the problem unresolved, it is however also suggested that the 173 drivers be installed
[16:55] <netyire> Guest6029: they are older but reportedly do work
[16:55] <evilsushi> did something change in the jaunt repos? Install these packages without verification [y/N]? Y
[16:55] <triptonita> ubottu: thanks :)
[16:55] <evilsushi> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main liblua5.1-0 5.1.4-2 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]
[16:55] <SinnerNyx> ok so I'm trying to force apache on only one interface. My thoughts to do this was to uncomment the Listen directive wherever it is and set it to the IP of the one interface
[16:55] <evilsushi> every package I try to download fails.
[16:55] <maco> evilsushi: apt-get update first?
[16:55] <evilsushi> yep
[16:55] <savid> Ugh, I wish unity wasn't so damned buggy.  It has promise.
[16:55] <SinnerNyx> however there is no listen directive in any of the files.
[16:55] <netyire> Guest6029: if it is any consolation, the bug has been reported by many users https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/660596
[16:56] <rinkukokiri> savid, i wish unity wasn't so   ...   ugly..
[16:56] <Pici> evilsushi: jaunty is no longer supported an its repositories are no longer on the main mirrors.
[16:56] <SinnerNyx> I put it in httpd.conf, but then I get errors when starting the server
[16:56] <evilsushi> Pici: so what does that mean?
[16:56] <km1> anyone running ubuntu on vmworkstation 7?
[16:56] <netyire> Guest6029: the best bet after installing the older, compatible drivers is to report your experience and wait for a fix
[16:56] <Pici> !EOL | evilsushi
[16:56] <evilsushi> So that means they drop the repos?
[16:56] <LekeFly> MonkeyDust: Trying to get in.. that didnt work.. anything els i can try?
[16:57] <netyire> `Shikhin: please check /etc/network/interfaces
[16:57] <rinkukokiri> why didn't 9.xx have an LTS?
[16:57] <Pici> evilsushi: They're temporarily available at old-releases.ubuntu.com, but they the release is no longer supported.  Non LTS releases are only supported for 18 months
[16:57] <netyire> `Shikhin: your address should be static with an auto line
[16:57] <dforthman> rinkukokiri, it did
[16:57] <Pici> rinkukokiri: LTSes come every two years.
[16:57] <Pici> dforthman: No  it didn't.
[16:58] <D34X> nvm
 What do you think how much you can expect a new working version?
[16:58] <rinkukokiri> dforthman, not according to wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[16:58] <dforthman> 9.04 was LTS wasn't it?
[16:58] <evilsushi> Pici: so how do I change my repos to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[16:58] <savid> How do I move the unity dock to a different monitor?
[16:58] <SinnerNyx> can't find commented listen directive in apache conf files. tried putting it in httpd.conf, but that gives me errors. anyone know where it's supposed to be?
[16:58] <rinkukokiri> good, that means this unity crap won't be LTS
[16:58] <netyire> Guest6029: it depends on the number of people reporting the bug, and whether any of the devs get a new card :-)
[16:59] <`Shikhin> netyire: It contains the following:
[16:59] <`Shikhin> "
[16:59] <`Shikhin> auto lo
[16:59] <`Shikhin> iface lo inet loopback
[16:59] <`Shikhin> "
[16:59] <FloodBot1> `Shikhin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <`Shikhin> Ok, sorry.
[16:59] <`Shikhin> netyire: Anything to add more, anyway?
[17:00] <Pici> dforthman: No. 8.04 was an 10.04 was.
 And you send them a bug?
[17:00] <dforthman> Gotcha.
[17:00] <netyire> `Shikhin: there should be something like address: yadda yadda, gateway: yadadada, et cetera
[17:00] <km1> anyone familiar with enable file sharing between host os with ubuntu guest os on vmware workstation7?
[17:00] <xmajox> exit
[17:00] <xmajox> ups, wrong 'terminal'
[17:00] <`Shikhin> netyire: Can you give an example?
[17:00] <xmajox> :p
[17:00] <netyire> `Shikhin: far out, but http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-407802.html suggests it so, try setting a static ip using the network gui
[17:01] <netyire> Guest6029: complaining to nvidia is unhelpful from personal experience
[17:01] <Pici> evilsushi: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Requirements
[17:01] <S_A> Hi! I am using custom ubuntu as a network client, I am looking forward for setting up dhclient for accepting various options supplied by dhcp server e.g. FTP username, password etc. how can i set in dhclient ?
[17:01] <Osmodivs> Hello. Is there a linux version of Window's "Alcohol 120%"?
[17:01] <LekeFly> How can i boot ubuntu into recovery mode from alt + ctrl + f1 ?
[17:01] <netyire> Guest6029: I suggest writing to ubuntuGeek to report that http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-nvidia-260-19-12-drivers-in-ubuntu-10-1010-04-using-ppa.html is down
[17:01] <netyire> Guest6029: that should be the quickest way to get a response
[17:01] <S_A> do i need to set dhclient.conf
[17:01] <S_A> ?
[17:01] <SinnerNyx> can't find commented listen directive in apache conf files. tried putting it in httpd.conf, but that gives me errors. anyone know where it's supposed to be?
[17:01] <Pici> LekeFly: you need to reboot first and select recover from the grub menu.
[17:02] <`Shikhin> netyire: Why should I set a static ip?
[17:02] <rinkukokiri> LekeFly, by holding shift during boot.
[17:02] <LekeFly> Pici: Holding left shift right? i cant seem to get the grub menu..
[17:02] <Pici> LekeFly: correct.
[17:02] <`Shikhin> netyire: I already connect to the internet using a static ip to avoid problem (and conflicts).
[17:02] <netyire> `Shikhin: its out of personal experience, I'm but reporting relevant google threads
[17:02] <`Shikhin> And the router's dhcp server has been disabled.
[17:03] <netyire> `Shikhin: moving on, looking for other leads
[17:03] <Whitor> hi. I have a drive that isn't mounting... How can I see a list of drives that the OS 'sees" ?
[17:03] <S_A>  Hi! I am using udhcpc in my custom distro, I am looking forward for setting up udhcpc for accepting various options supplied by dhcp server e.g. FTP username, password etc. how can i set it ?
[17:03] <Whitor> from the command line preferably
[17:03] <`Shikhin> S_A: Have any experience with isc-dhcp-server? (needed help with it)
[17:04] <OctoByte> Whitor: ls /dev/disk/by-label
[17:04] <S_A> Shikhin: no
[17:04] <Whitor> OctoByte,  bash: /dev/disk/by-label: No such file or directory
[17:04] <S_A> Shikhin: Can you tell me something on setting up client
[17:04] <S_A> ?
[17:05] <jnlsnl_> Hello! What's the best way of running a bash script on boot, the script dose a sudo command so need root privileges
 What about nvidia-glx-xxx? the method try or not now for me?
[17:05] <Whitor> Unless you mean that I should guess at the 'by-label' part ... but doesn't seem like an efficient way of doing things
[17:05] <netyire> Guest6029: try the 173 one first
[17:05] <OctoByte> Whitor: ls /dev | grep sda?
[17:05] <netyire> Guest6029: then nvidia-current if that fails
[17:05] <OctoByte> Whitor: ls /dev | grep sd?
[17:06] <Whitor> OctoByte, that asssumes the disk is sda .... what if its hda or hdb or sdb or sdc ?
[17:06] <Whitor> there should be a way to list drives that the OS sees ... without guessing at what type is attached
[17:07] <OctoByte> Whitor: that would be ld /dev/disk/by-label but apparently the os sees no drives
[17:07] <phaedral> any tricks in getting both libreoffice and OpenOffice running on my 10.10?
[17:07] <dforthman> how do i see which ubuntu version i'm on? i updated everything and it's still not giving me the option to upgrade to 11.04
[17:07] <OctoByte> Whitor: what do you get when you ls /dev/disk?
[17:07] <Pici> dforthman: lsb_release -a
[17:07] <quiescens> i don't know of a by-label
[17:07] <Whitor> OctoByte, thats funny. I tried it on my system I'm on right now... definately has a drive
 can step by step. For example 1) remove sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.12.run --uninstall 2) remove sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current 3) install nvidia-glx-xx. I don't know what to do step by step in the chain
[17:07] <phaedral> currently have libre, but want to test something in OO before giving up and getting my client to use a commercial product
[17:07] <nimbiotics> Pici; I do not see the grub menu at all
[17:08] <Whitor> OctoByte, I see by-id  by-path  by-uuid
[17:08] <dforthman> Yeah, 10.10. Aparently when you say "Don't remind me again" means, "I don't want to upgrade. Even if I change my mind later, don't let me do it."
[17:08] <Whitor> OctoByte, 10.04 here
[17:08] <Pici> nimbiotics: Is this a wired or wireless keyboard?
[17:08] <OctoByte> Whitor: Ah, try by-id
[17:08] <netyire> Guest6029: I apologize for the confusion. Yes, all 3 steps you listed are correct, but replace xx with 173; you're doing great :-)
[17:08] <szal> phaedral: if you install one from package sources and the other from official pkgs, that should work
[17:08] <nimbiotics> Pici: its a laptop
[17:08] <phaedral> szal: thx
[17:08] <Pici> dforthman: YOu may need to modify your preferences to make sure that it is looking at non-LTS releases
[17:08] <Pici> nimbiotics: hmmm...
[17:08] <nawk> is openoffice renamed to libreoffice?  Or is libreoffice some kind of fork?
[17:09] <dforthman> It's set to "Normal"
[17:09] <szal> nawk: fork
[17:09] <phaedral> nawk: fork; folks worried about Oracle influence on project
[17:09] <szal> nawk: the logical continuation of Go-OO
[17:09] <Osmodivs> Hello. Is there a linux version of Window's "Alcohol 120%"?
[17:09] <Whitor> OctoByte, thatnks ... the command needed was:   ls /dev/disk/by-id/
 Ok I begin. If my account will be lost soryy --)))
[17:09] <Whitor> needed that trailing slash too
[17:09] <nimbiotics> Pici: but i havent tried booting while pressing the shift key as you just told me; I just do not see the grub menu. Should I try?
[17:09] <Whitor> OctoByte, thanks
[17:10] <Pici> nimbiotics: Yes, please.
[17:10] <OctoByte> Whitor: no problem
[17:10] <dforthman> PIci: In update manager, "Show distribution releases: Normal releases"
[17:10] <nimbiotics> Pici: OK, brb
[17:10] <jussi> Osmodivs: not a version of it, but programs that will do similar/same
[17:10] <aeon-ltd> Osmodivs: yes there is burning software for linux
[17:10] <nawk> szal, what's the 'Go' in "Go-OO"?
[17:10] <administrator>  网站阿
[17:10] <jussi> !info brasero | Osmodivs
[17:10] <administrator> 谁有A片网站阿
[17:10] <kanliot-noob> using ubuntu 11.04, what's proper way to add environmental variables to bash?  TIA.
[17:10] <Pici> dforthman: Have you tried using the cli upgrade method? i.e: sudo do-release-upgrade -p   ?
[17:10] <jussi> !cn |  Guest32895
[17:12] <Guest32895> 谁有A片网站阿
[17:12] <dforthman> It's checking. I didn't know that existed. Learn something new every day, I guess.
[17:12] <Guest32895> 谁有A片网站阿
[17:13] <brown_fern> Osmodivs: I've never used the Alcohol 120% program, would it be comparable to Brasero?   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasero_%28software%29
[17:13] <Guest32895> 谁有A片网站阿
[17:14] <airsniff> Hi
 Yet question. How stop X of Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[17:14] <Pici> !cn | Guybrush88
[17:14] <Guest32895> 谁有A片网站阿
 My posible is not very correct. I comment script in file /etc/init/gdm.conf and then restart PC.
[17:16] <Roasted> Is there a way to test the graphics card on an ubuntu system? I'm having issues with my laptop, bad issues, and the memtest and hdd test came back 100% fine.
[17:16] <dr4c4n> Roasted: what graphics card?
[17:17] <`Shikhin> netyire: Anything? Some people suggested that re-booting fixes the problem, but it doesn't in my case. :(
[17:17] <Roasted> dr4c4n, I'd tell ya but it crashed on me about 3 seconds ago.
[17:17] <`Shikhin> !lang
[17:17] <Roasted> dr4c4n, it's a CR-48 by google. I forget offhand. It's an Intel... N10 or something?
[17:17] <dr4c4n> Roasted: do you know which module ubuntu is using to drive it?
[17:18] <Pici> Guybrush88: sorry about that, mistab.
[17:18] <dr4c4n> Roasted: for example, I have nvidia on everything because there is very good debug :)
[17:18] <kLown> Quick question.  I currently have 11.04 installed on my desktop, and I want to dual boot win7.  Would it be easier/better to backup 11.04, install win7, then install 11.04, or just install win7
[17:18] <Roasted> dr4c4n, I just rebooted and got a no bootable device -- please restart system. Could a bad gfx card do that?
[17:19] <pksadiq> Guest32895: if you know commandline do ALT+CTRL+F1 and login and do sudo service gdm stop
[17:19] <dr4c4n> Roasted: sounds like hard drive, and no bootable partition
[17:19] <Roasted> dr4c4n, hard drive came back with no errors. as well as a 12 hour memtest.
[17:19] <`Shikhin> !hindi
[17:19] <Guybrush88> pici, no worries
[17:20] <dr4c4n> Roasted: have you created a partition on the hd?
[17:20] <dr4c4n> Roasted: also floppy disk? remove all of them
[17:20] <yokahu> please someone help
[17:20] <dr4c4n> Roasted: and check your bios to make sure it's booting the right hard disk
[17:20] <brown_fern> kLown: I always install Microsoft Windows 7 first on a system, then install Linux distributions.
[17:20] <yokahu> i am having issues    after instaling ubuntu
[17:21] <`Shikhin> netyire: Found the rogue after about two hours! dnsmasq was the issue. :-)
[17:21] <kLown> !backup
[17:21] <inktri> i installed apache with apt-get... why doesn't the folder /usr/local/apache2 exist? where is it located?
[17:21] <pksadiq> `Shikhin: not our hindi language here :(
[17:21] <kLown> ugh, ment to send that to myself, sorry
[17:21] <dr4c4n> Roasted: also perhaps if you've fudged inside the box, check jumper cables..
[17:21] <avernos> how can i bridge a conection with ubuntu 11.04 ?
[17:21] <yokahu> ubi partman failed with exit code 10
[17:21] <Roasted> dr4c4n, yeah Im going to take it apart and see whats up.
[17:22] <yokahu> further information may be found  in
[17:22] <`Shikhin> pksadiq: I was just testing, though of course, I am Indian. But seriously they should make a hindi channel. :-)
[17:22] <dr4c4n> Roasted: gl :)
[17:22] <yokahu> Var/Log/syslog
[17:22] <yokahu> havi9ng problem instaling programs
[17:22] <Pici> `Shikhin: theres #ubuntu-in, but it looks like they prefer english as well,
[17:23] <nopf> uh, i'm on 11.4. suspend didn't work out of the box. i have found 's2ram -f ... --some-parameters' which *does* work. now what script to modify to have the lid-close execute the line???
[17:24] <cypha> I did "edit helloworld.py" and now I'm in some editor I can't figure out how to exit
[17:24] <yabuk> how to use msn video call on ubuntu?
[17:24] <Whitor> esc esc : q
[17:24] <Whitor> or
[17:24] <dr4c4n> cypha: ctrl q
[17:24] <Whitor> esc esc : q!
[17:24] <dr4c4n> cypha: or ctrl x or ctrl z
[17:25] <dr4c4n> esc esc : q! is for vi or vim
[17:25] <dr4c4n> which editor r u in?
[17:25] <Whitor> dr4c4n, thats right!
[17:25] <brown_fern> kLown: Windows is more particular about where it can be installed, if you've used all your primary partitions with Linux, for instance, the Windows boot loader will be a problematic install. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_partition#Primary_partition
[17:25] <Whitor> they don't know
[17:25] <dr4c4n> hit the x at the top left window of the screen..
[17:25] <dr4c4n> even if they are in terminal it'll exit
[17:25] <dr4c4n> :D
[17:25] <kLown> brown_fern: I was planning on installing it on a separate harddrive.
[17:26] <kLown> brown_fern: think windows would have an issue with that?
[17:26] <Whitor> open a new window and type xkill ... then click the window you want to kill
[17:27] <brown_fern> kLown: Read that page I gave the link for, it explains what I'm talking about, I sited the subsection of the document that I thought might be most helpful to you.
[17:27] <cordoval_> hi I have this too long of a line on my terminal cordoval@cordoval-HP-Pavilion-dv2000-RM421LA-ABM:~/sites-2/memorizescripture$  how to reduce it to minimum?
[17:27] <kLown> brown_fern: thanks, I didnt even notice it.
[17:28] <pksadiq> cordoval: try export PS1=">"
[17:28] <cypha> not sure what's happening, but ctrl+z exited ("stopped"), however when I try reopening the file, it says there's some swap file issue
[17:28] <cordoval> pksadiq: what is the exact command?
[17:29] <pksadiq> export PS1=">"
[17:29] <nathans80> is there a known issue with xinerama in the ati catalyst control and composite extension is not available
[17:29] <Pici> cypha: you've backgrounded the job.  type fg to bring it back
[17:29] <cordoval> I will have to do that every time?
[17:30] <ajwilhelm_> are the us apt repos down?
[17:30] <cypha> pici, even after i deleted helloworld.py
[17:30] <pksadiq> cordoval: I think you can add that command to ~/.bashrc file
[17:30] <jpds> ajwilhelm_: Probably not all of them at the same time.
[17:30] <cypha> and then recreated the file
[17:30] <cypha> it still says something about a swap file
[17:31] <cordoval> http://www.pantz.org/software/shell/enhancingshellprompt.html
[17:31] <savid> wtf, the unity menu just switched monitors on me.  I didn't even change my monitor setup.  The launcher is on my right monitor (correct), but now the  main menu has jumped over to my left monitor.  Why is it doing this?
[17:31] <Pici> cypha: What exactly does it say?
[17:32] <Onomato> hello, I'd like to compile my own clamav and have found 0.97 sources. I'd like to know if I must be root to install it, cause it's no necessary to configure, compile and make it. Sorry if i'm not understandable...
[17:33] <cordoval> where do I look for the current configuration in terms of PS1?
[17:33] <Kainu7> Hey guys, quick question. Im about to try Ubuntu going to do a live boot disk, should i get the 32bit or the 64bit? my computer is currently running windows 7 64bit
[17:33] <cordoval> I just need to change it by removing the long part of the text
[17:34] <cypha> Pici, http://dpaste.com/551579/
[17:34] <cordoval> http://www.pantz.org/software/shell/enhancingshellprompt.html
[17:34] <cordoval> but it does not tell me a specific file where this configuration is stored
[17:34] <Lunixia> id go with 64 bit, its a little smoother.. although not all applications like to run on 64 bit, i find it easy going
[17:34] <pksadiq> cordoval: echo "$PS1"
[17:34] <OctoByte> Kainu7: either will work, 64 bit preferred
[17:34] <Pici> cypha: Did you delete the swap file when you deleted the python file itself?
[17:34] <cypha> no
[17:35] <cordoval> thanks \[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$
[17:35] <cordoval> but it does not tell me the file that i can change
[17:35] <cypha> where do I find it to delete it?
[17:35] <nathans80> im am getting an error of composite extension is not available when trying to enable extra under the visual effects using ubuntu 10.10 ati catalyst with the xinerama enabled system fully up to date
[17:35] <Lunixia> 64 bit is the new 32 bit lol... but in all seriousness, we will never get rid of 32 bit if people keep it around
[17:35] <Kainu7> Should I got with 11.04 or 10.04?
[17:35] <Pici> cypha: I believe  that by default vim puts it in the same path that your document is in.
[17:36] <pksadiq> cordoval: just edit it as you need and add the command             export PS1="<the edited>"  to the last of the file ~/.bashrc
[17:36] <cordoval> I got it it is on bashrc
[17:36] <cordoval> yes
[17:36] <cordoval> thanks!
[17:36] <Lunixia> 11.04 , what video card ya got?
[17:36] <Pici> !qho | Lunixia
[17:36] <Pici> !who | Lunixia
[17:36] <Kainu7> galaxy geforce gtx 460 oc
[17:37] <cypha> Pici, you're right. what's the difference btwn hw.py.swn, hw.py.swp, hw.py.swo, hw.py.swm?
[17:37] <cypha> all those are in there
[17:37] <idefix> !sound
[17:37] <Pici> cypha: I just started using vim myself, I'm not sure, sorry.
[17:37] <_joey> `Shikhin: That was the question
[17:38] <cypha> k, np
[17:38] <cypha> Pici, how do you exit vim?
[17:38] <e01> hello, i am with ubuntu 11.04 on my acer aspire 5942g laptop and have problems with sound, can somebody help me
[17:38] <_joey> where did we stop our conversion?
[17:38] <Pici> cypha: press escape, then :q
[17:38] <_joey> Ubuntu question ...
[17:38] <cypha> so that the process stops too
[17:38] <pksadiq> cypha: to know what file it is try the command            file <filename>
[17:38] <Kainu7> Lunixia i have galaxy geforce gtx 460 oc why
[17:39] <yabuk> hey, so no one use video call sending the webcam on msn protocol?? empathy? amsn?  how can I use msn to talk and send the video? there os a problem with a msn video call  protocol on ubuntu?
[17:39] <e01> i want using it as desktop, with my 5.1 surround, i plug in the 3 cables from the surround system in the wholes (mic, line, headphones) but sound is still output from the internal speakers
[17:39] <Lunixia> !tab Kainu7
[17:39] <Lunixia> woops
[17:39] <pksadiq> !surround
[17:39] <pksadiq> Vim swap file, version 7.2
[17:39] <Kyle__> !libvnc.so
[17:39] <cypha> pksadiq, what do you mean?
[17:40]  * Kyle__ sighs
[17:40] <Kyle__> Hey, it worked for everyone else.
[17:40] <pksadiq> sorry, an error with my mouse :)
[17:40] <amin`> which of command line download manager supports multi threat
[17:40] <Kainu7> how do u use the !tab?
[17:41] <e01> pksadiq, i am edited the daemon.conf as in the tutorial but problem is still here
[17:41] <cordoval> nice
[17:41] <cordoval> I got it
[17:41] <cordoval> pksadiq: thanks a lot
[17:42] <TheBuntu> Is text part of gimp going to use the extra fonts i install from the repo ?
[17:42] <pksadiq> cordoval: np :)
[17:43] <pksadiq> e01: did you removed the ";" ? of that line?
[17:43] <e01> yes
[17:43] <e01> and then restart
[17:44] <pksadiq> e01: don't know much, hope someone else is better than me,
[17:44] <e01> pksadiq, thanks
[17:46] <TheRedOctober> Hi all.  I have a vendor who is throwing me under the bus with a client because he says linux is the cause of a network connectivity issue (it was his VLAN config).  how do say that ubuntu network stack is standards compliant?
[17:46] <WildcatLG> hey guys im running ubuntu 10.04 in a VM, but tried installing (duel boot) on my Alienware MX17, but im running into a major problem... before install i created a 50 GB partition from windows. Then i booted into a live CD. Becuase im running a Fastrack Raid 0 the bootloader failes to install. Ive tried every option it provides but it still gives the same error (that it failed to install on /dev/sda) Ive done everything short of telling it to use t
[17:46] <WildcatLG> he whole disk... does anyone know any solutions? Ive tried cont. without then booting into the live CD again just to install grub 2... same result
 Hi I reboot drivers in laptop
[17:47] <yokahu> have problem with multiple partitions disc
[17:47] <Corey> TheRedOctober: Kill him with kindness.  "Oh, it was?  That's fascinating, and I'm deeply sorry to hear that-- please show me exactly how it broke so I can keep an eye out for it in the future."  Give him enough rope to hang himself, effectively.
[17:48] <pksadiq> !WLAN
[17:48] <yokahu> tryed toistal ubutu  after  grub rescue
 Problem doesn't resolved. I tried current nvidia's driver then del it and tried new script from NVIDIA.
[17:49] <TheRedOctober> Corey: I went all the way to houston from NY for a vendor meet, absolute horse*.  I gave him a shocker with tcpdump.  How do these people get jobs?
[17:49] <Omni_Lynk> If i'm trying to add a Linux computer to an already existing Windows domain. the Host be changed to the same ip block as the server. Or is Host just for that computeR?
[17:49] <b0ot>  So I created a bashscript that innstalls all my packages from repo just doing dpkg -i *.deb, however some of the packages like asterisk ask for user input such as telephone code... is there a way to have these values inputed automatically?
[17:50] <pksadiq> Guest35962: does it load to command line now?
[17:50] <Corey> TheRedOctober: In #ubuntu-offtopic I'd love to explore this. :-)
[17:50] <phaedral> installed OOo3 by way of "Installing OOo on Debian and Co" as suggested on Ubuntu forums
[17:50] <Guest35962> Yes after reboot I go to command line
[17:50] <phaedral> but.... openoffice.org & gets me a "not installed try apt-get" message :(
[17:50] <Guest35962> Then I from command line deleting file /etc/X11/xorg.conf reboot and go to X
[17:51] <rly> Where can I get a build of mplayer for Ubuntu 11.04 which is complete?
[17:51] <pksadiq> Guest35962: and so you get X now?
[17:51] <TheBuntu> Where would i put extra fonts i download from the web ?
 Yes after del xorg.conf I after reboot go to normal mode
 Where is <netyire>?
[17:53] <pksadiq> Guest35962: might be he is away, so I hope there is no problem, can you load compiz now?
[17:54] <Pici> !fonts | TheBuntu
[17:54] <xxghostxx> hello.  i am using ubuntu 10.10.  I had installed apache2 and subversion, using webdav, as described in the unbuntu wiki.  SVN was working as expected, I could commit files, etc.  I then installed php5 and mysql, as described in the ubuntu wiki, and i now get the following on apache restart: apache2: Syntax error on line 203 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/mod
[17:54] <zzzombiezzz> hi all
[17:54] <xxghostxx> any help would be greatly appreciated
[17:54] <jhala> firefox is not allowing me to enter any login authenticated sites like gmail etc. why?
[17:54] <b0ot>  So I created a bashscript that innstalls all my packages from repo just doing dpkg -i *.deb, however some of the packages like asterisk ask for user input such as telephone code... is there a way to have these values inputed automatically?
[17:55] <jhala> firefox is not allowing me to enter any login authenticated sites like gmail etc. why? it downloads login.php and asks me to save it!!!
 In normal X mode I try go to menu->NVIDIA X Server Settings and see error: "You not to be using the "NVIDIAX driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run nvidia-xconfig as root) and restart the X server
[17:55] <pksadiq> netyire: Guest35962 calling :)
[17:56] <pksadiq> Guest35962: in terminal type sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:56] <zzzombiezzz> jhala, back up all ur info and remove the .firefox directory
[17:57] <zzzombiezzz> jhala, .mozilla
[17:57] <pksadiq> Guest35962: then restart , again if you get commandline , then do       Xorg -configure             and do accordingly as it will be shown
[17:57] <kLown> is there a multi-protocol messenger out that supports video/file/picture transfers?
[17:57] <jhala> zzzombiezzz: ok.but what problem is it
[17:58] <linux4ever> kLown: Pidgin with a plugin maybe?
 Now I commented file xorg.conf and reboot works Ok. But If I uncomment the file reboot go to command line
[17:59] <tensorpudding> kLown: i think empathy supports two of those
[17:59] <tensorpudding> kLown: but not all protocols that empathy supports offers them
[17:59] <b44> how to install Glassfish on ubuntu??? there are about 5 packages .......
[17:59] <kLown> tensorpudding: I see "file transfers'  but I dont see video/picture
[17:59] <pksadiq> Guest35962: do as above , sudo nvidia-xconfig           , restart and again if you get command line    login there and do         Xorg -configure       , I hope that would be enough
[18:00] <zzzombiezzz> kLown, jabber can do media transfers ..
[18:00] <tensorpudding> kLown: what protocol?
[18:00] <tensorpudding> kLown: jabber/gtalk supports them
[18:00] <kLown> tensorpudding: msn/aim/yahoo
[18:00] <tensorpudding> kLown: yeah, like i said, the support is incomplete
[18:00] <tensorpudding> kLown: pretty sure that AIM doesn't support video
 Ok will be try but now I have driver from site of NVIDIA last version
[18:01] <tensorpudding> as for msn, i don't think the video part is available in any client
[18:01] <tensorpudding> except the microsoft one
[18:01] <tensorpudding> but i don't use MSN
[18:01] <rinkukokiri> anyone know of a file duplicate finder that actually works?? fslint doesnt work the way it should
[18:01] <pksadiq> Guest35962: on 8.10 I used 173 version  ubuntu package, but now I use nvidia-current package  , works well for me
[18:01] <kLown> ah, ok.  thanks :)
[18:02] <rly> !opencl
[18:02] <rly> How do I get OpenCL to work on Ubuntu?
[18:02] <jhala> zzzombiezzz: no use man
[18:02] <rly> (AMD card)
[18:02] <rinkukokiri> more specifically, i am looking to remove duplicate mp3's from my music folder, and using FSlint doesn't... it only finds dupe albumart.
 script from NVIDIA installed to me 173 version
[18:03] <phaedral> sudo apt-get autoremove knows openoffice is there to remove, but I can't get the shell to admit openoffice is anywhere around to run
[18:03] <tensorpudding> rly: what's OpenCL
  I see it in menu->Additional Drivers in window
 Ok I will be try insatll the sripts
[18:04] <pksadiq> Guest35962: is it shown in green?
[18:05] <rinkukokiri> I need a duplicate mp3 remover... anyone?
 Yes is green "NVIDIA acseler.... grafic driver (ver.. 173)"
[18:05] <rly> tensorpudding: opencl is like opengl, but for a wider range of computations.
[18:06] <Corey> rinkukokiri: Does it have to be graphical? :-)
 Current version is gray
[18:06] <haavaros> Hi! What is the the name of the notifier app for empathy and evolution, the little envelope thing in the task bar?
[18:06] <rly> tensorpudding: GPGPU platform, if that means something to you.
[18:06] <realz> sudo /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start ..... "421 Unable to switch capabilities : Operation not permitted
[18:06] <realz> " ... ?
[18:06] <rinkukokiri> Corey, i would /prefer/ it be, but no.
[18:06] <Corey> rinkukokiri: Otherwise I'd probably script something with find, awk, and sort / uniq -c. :-)
[18:06] <Pici> rly: I see python-pyopencl in the repositories.
[18:06] <tensorpudding> rly: so it sounds like you need to find a Linux implementation of it
[18:06] <G00053> haavaros: indicator applet
[18:06] <pksadiq> Guest35962: try enabling compiz, can you do that?
[18:06] <haavaros> G00053: Ah, thx
[18:06] <rly> Pici: that's not it.
[18:07] <rly> tensorpudding: if you don't know, I do not need hand holding.
[18:07] <rly> tensorpudding: if nobody knows, that is an acceptable solution too.
[18:07] <Corey> rinkukokiri: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/08/find-duplicate-copies-of-files/ seems to tsill be useful
[18:07] <pksadiq> !info fdupes
[18:07] <rinkukokiri> yep just found that
[18:08] <Corey> rinkukokiri: Looks like fslint is the GUI version.
[18:08] <rinkukokiri> hum
[18:08] <rinkukokiri> then it won't work
[18:08] <Corey> Er, FSlint rather.
 What is compiz?
[18:08] <rly> tensorpudding: perhaps you can tell me what the initialization file is for a graphical session on default Ubuntu 11.04?
[18:08] <aeon-ltd> !info compiz
[18:08] <tensorpudding> rly: well, there doesn't seem to be OpenCL tools in the software center
[18:08] <aeon-ltd> Guest35962: there you go
[18:08] <pksadiq> Guest35962: I mean Visual effects
[18:09] <rly> What is the initialization file for a graphical session on default Ubuntu 11.04 (e.g. .gnomerc/.profile/.bashrc/...)?
 What is compiz? Where I must find it?
[18:09] <tensorpudding> rly: i'm not sure about that one
[18:10] <tensorpudding> rly: why do you ask?
[18:10] <pksadiq> Guest35962: right click on desktop > change desktop back.. > Visual effects  change it to extra
 Ok --))
[18:11] <rinkukokiri> Yep... fdupes does NOT FIND DUPLICATES as I know i have seven in the base dir ~/Music   and many many others in child dirs   but fdupes only finds jpg's ...
[18:11] <PseudoGou> Hello
[18:11] <rly> tensorpudding: obviously because I want to know.
[18:11] <PseudoGou> What do you guys use for VLC integration in Mozilla Firefox?
[18:11] <rinkukokiri> and.. it also incorrectly identifies two files as duplicates when i KNOW they are not
  this mode is not work
[18:12] <rly> tensorpudding: 1) do not answer to questions you don't know the answer to 2) do not ask meta-questions.
[18:12] <pksadiq> Guest35962: ok then open terminal and type sudo nvidia-xconfig
[18:13] <rinkukokiri> here's the output of fdupes...   http://paste.ubuntu.com/621072/   doesn't seem to work coorectly.
 Green color cheated
[18:13] <EagleScreen> !policykit
[18:13] <rinkukokiri> as you can tell from lines 12 and 13  which are two totally different songs,
 Ok I am tring
 Must I before to do commant "stop gdm"?
[18:14] <tensorpudding> rly: i only asked why you wanted to know, so that if what you wanted could be done in a different way that i know, i could advise you
[18:14] <rly> tensorpudding: I doubt that.
[18:15] <Corey> rinkukokiri: You sure about that?  This operates on a checksum basis. :-)
[18:15] <tensorpudding> rly: you may doubt it, but it's the truth
[18:15] <Nogoth> Hello everyone. First-time-linux-installer here :> I am trying to install ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso on my new ThinkPad L520. Problem is that both "Run Ubunto from this USB" and "Install Ubunto on a Hard Disk" ... freeze with the last line being "bio: create slab <bio-0> at 0" Hardwarespecs are here:  http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=thinkpadfsbs.jpg . So far I figure its because of...
[18:15] <Nogoth> ...the integrated grafics it uses. Not shure if I did it correctly but I used xdriver=vesa and commands like that to try and force it to use a general driver. No luck so far. Help? :)
[18:15] <FloodBot1> Nogoth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:15] <tensorpudding> rly: gnome is started with gnome-session, you might check the manual for that one
[18:15] <pksadiq> Guest35962: if you can't do that uncomment the xorg file and then restart, you get the command line, then login there and type            sudo nvidia-xconfig         then type       sudo service gdm start
[18:15] <rly> tensorpudding: the user initilization file is a very basic part of the OS.
[18:15] <mark__> I am going to listen to K3.
[18:15] <rly> tensorpudding: again, you are spewing garbage.
[18:15] <webPragmatist> anyone know if this is a decent way to install php-fpm http://groups.drupal.org/node/66898
[18:16] <rly> tensorpudding: I said default Ubuntu.
[18:16] <rly> tensorpudding: that is Unity.
[18:16] <tensorpudding> rly: which is gnome, with the unity shell on it
[18:16] <rly> tensorpudding: perhaps.
[18:16] <tensorpudding> rly: the specific file for the session is /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/ubuntu.session
[18:16] <pksadiq> !find php-fpm
 I got in X next command now :WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[18:17] <Guest35962> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[18:17] <rly> tensorpudding: ok, that's useful.
[18:17] <pksadiq> Guest35962: ok now type sudo service gdm start
[18:17] <alex--> hi mark__
[18:17] <webPragmatist> !find php5-fpm
[18:17] <`Allegro> Yes hi.
[18:17] <`Allegro> Id like some help.
[18:17] <mark__> You are all a bunch of dirty socialists!
[18:17] <alex--> `Allegro: with what?
 sorry I now in gdm
[18:17] <webPragmatist> man i need to switch to fpm on my other server
[18:17] <rly> mark__: more like capitalists.
[18:18] <pksadiq> !find php?-fpm
[18:18] <oCean> mark__: please stay on topic
[18:18] <rly> mark__: hello troll.
[18:18] <`Allegro> alex--:
[18:18] <mark__> Hello Alex.
[18:18] <monaDeveloper> hey fols
[18:18] <`Allegro> It keeps saying no root system defined when I try and install
[18:18] <monaDeveloper> folks*
[18:18] <rinkukokiri> Corey, wow... seems ubuntu has problems copying files from one drive to another then
[18:18] <`Allegro> Im not sure what that means
[18:18] <mark__> If I want to listen music on Youtube, (I am using Mozilla Firefox) it doesn’t work.
[18:18] <pksadiq> oCean: why shouldn't the bot have the idea to expand common regex?
[18:18] <SinnerNyx> I'm using Ubuntu. I'd like to make one of my network cards start offline, but still be setup for dhcp so that I can just type "ifup eth1" and it will activate
[18:18] <nopf> well, again the question: if i press the suspend button or activate suspend by some other means on 11.04, where is defined what the 'suspend' actiondoes, in which component/daemon/whatever?
[18:18] <SinnerNyx> erm sorry Ubuntu-Server
[18:19] <ZykoticK9> `Allegro, it means you didn't specify a parition for "/" aka the root directory.
[18:19] <monaDeveloper> there is a website I'm trying to access (educational) that's developed using microsoft stuff and it requires me to use IE and WMP
[18:19] <Corey> rinkukokiri: Unlikely. :-)
[18:19] <Corey> rinkukokiri: md5sum the two files, does it spit out the same?
[18:19] <`Allegro> I thought I did D:
[18:19] <`Allegro> How do I fix this issue?
[18:19] <monaDeveloper> is there a terminal or an online thing that I can over come this obstacle without switching to windows
[18:19] <rinkukokiri> Corey, i say that because on my mybook the files work.. after i copied them to my local filesystem they don't work
[18:20] <rinkukokiri> so yes, ubuntu has problems copying files from one drive to another.
[18:20] <oCean> pksadiq: No idea, maybe ask in #ubuntu-bots-team
[18:20] <Corey> rinkukokiri: How did you do the copy?
[18:20] <Corey> rinkukokiri: I've had no issues doing similar things via scp and / or rsync.
 I will be to do next step: 1) stop gdm 2) sudo nvidia-xconfig 3) xorg-configure 4) gdm start Ok or not?
[18:20] <pksadiq> oCean: I thought you where one of them , sorry
[18:20] <rinkukokiri> Corey, i right click > copy, right click > paste
[18:20] <kakashi_> I am able to ping the ip, but not use ssh
[18:20] <G00053> #cmsgs
[18:20] <monaDeveloper> I have moonlight lib installed as it requires silverlight as well
[18:20] <kakashi_> what might be the problem
[18:20] <oCean> pksadiq: a bot?
[18:21] <oCean> pksadiq: I said -bots-team, not -ops :)
[18:21] <ZykoticK9> Guest35962, FYI you don't actually have to stop GDM to run nvidia-xconfig - it won't matter if it's running or not.
[18:21] <oCean> pksadiq: there is a slight difference :)
[18:21] <pksadiq> oCean: I mean one of the bot customizing team
[18:21] <oCean> pksadiq: ah, nope, I'm not
[18:21] <monaDeveloper> any idea?
[18:22] <webPragmatist> pksadiq: guess it's not on lts
[18:22] <pksadiq> Guest35962: 1) sudo nvidia-xconfig 2) sudo service gdm start              if that don't works then next 1) Xorg -configure
[18:22] <monaDeveloper> there is a website I'm trying to access (educational) that's developed using microsoft stuff and it requires me to use IE, WMP, and silverlight
[18:23] <ZykoticK9> pksadiq, Guest35962 for the "Xorg -configure" you DO need to stop GDM
[18:23] <monaDeveloper> is there a terminal or an online thing that I can over come this obstacle without switching to windows
[18:23] <`Allegro> So like
[18:23] <pksadiq> !find php5-fpm lucid
[18:23] <pksadiq> ZykoticK9: he is already at commandline
[18:23] <`Allegro> How do I define a root file system
[18:23] <monaDeveloper> I've moonlight installed also using opera
[18:23] <jpmut> Are there any bandwitch monitoring software with there own proper GUI interface and "smoother" graphs?
[18:24] <xangua> monaDeveloper: moonlight pluguin is only for mozilla i believe
[18:24] <ZykoticK9> jpmut, personally I'm a fan of gkrellm, but it's pretty old-school by modern standards
[18:24] <xskydevilx> I'm trying to decide whether to Install Ubuntu 11.04 or 10.10, but I was wonder if it's possible to downgrade Compiz to 0.8.6 on Natty?
[18:24] <xangua> and it doesn't support all the charcteristics of silverlight
[18:24] <nimbiotics> While trying to install GIMP, im getting a 'Package dependencies cannot be resolved' error. Full message at http://paste.ubuntu.com/620967/. How can I fix this? TIA!
[18:24] <monaDeveloper> xangua: no it works on opera as well
[18:25] <xangua> monaDeveloper: didin't know that :O
[18:25] <monaDeveloper> xangua: so you knew
[18:25] <pksadiq> webPragmatist: only a few files there http://ppa.launchpad.net/brianmercer/php/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/    why couldn't you install manually?
[18:25] <ZykoticK9> monaDeveloper, <just a comment> but if the site you are visiting requires Moonlight -- it sucks.  Best of luck though.
 When I must do the command. If my video mode after reboot go to command line or other  case?
 "Xorg -configure"
[18:26] <webPragmatist> pksadiq: package updates?
 yup
[18:26] <Nogoth> No Ideas regarding my ... hickup? :|
[18:26] <webPragmatist>  add-apt-repository ppa:brianmercer/php << is that a real command
[18:27] <Pici> webPragmatist: Yes. You'll need sudo in front of it though
[18:27] <webPragmatist> Pici: uh? i tried that
[18:27] <HyperShock> what is the best way to fix all the association (mime type) issues in one big go, that is caused by the 11.04 update? been putting up with things since the big upgrade, finally tired of it. example: open things from my download manager doesn't work, neither does going to the download folder from the context menu (downthemall extension), other example, I used getdeb.net and clicking the install link doesn't activate software
[18:27] <HyperShock>  center, i have to download, then nautilus to the download the folder and double click. anyone have these problems and have got a solution?
[18:27] <webPragmatist> Pici: do i have to have some aptitude "extras" package or something
[18:27] <ZykoticK9> Guest35962, sorry I don't have any "real" suggestions for your issue - you might want to check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log after a failed GUI reboot (perhaps pastebin the output?) to see what's causing the error.
[18:28] <OctoByte> webPragmatist: What do you get when you try that command?
 I made command nvidia-xconfig and I see new file /etc/X11/xorg.conf. But if I make reboot I will be in command line again
[18:28] <webPragmatist> sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[18:28] <sombra> !lee 1600
[18:28] <webPragmatist> maybe not lucid?
[18:28] <OctoByte> Guest35962: sudo gdm start
[18:28] <ZykoticK9> webPragmatist, i seem to recall add-apt-repository being in Lucid (could be wrong)
[18:29] <pksadiq> Guest35962: ok, now login to command line and try the commands there itself , ok? first type                sudo service gdm start
[18:29] <Pici> webPragmatist: I believe  it was apt-add-repository in that release.
[18:29] <S_A> Hi! how to start dhcp server in verbose mode ?
[18:29] <webPragmatist> Pici: no
[18:29] <webPragmatist> lucid must have a trimed down aptitude
[18:29] <jpmut> Zykotick9,  that's seems to be better than Console-interfaces still. If it's old-school though, then what are the new software?
 Ok but I only begin reboot after reboot I cann't write to the chat
[18:29] <S_A> i am getting some error while strating but do not know what error is tghere
[18:30] <eyadof> hi why team viewer show a black screen when connect to ubuntu
[18:30] <ZykoticK9> jpmut, i guess conky would be the "new-school" replacement ;)
 I using X's Smuxi
[18:30] <webPragmatist> ppa:brianmercer/php << how does it know that that is launchpad?
[18:30] <webPragmatist> out of shear curiousity
[18:30] <ZykoticK9> webPragmatist, ppa = launchpad
[18:30] <Pici> webPragmatist: Its part of the python-software-properties package, not aptitude. And that package is available in lucid.
[18:30] <pksadiq> Guest35962: ok, do you know to use command line ? use irssi IRC client then, it will work there  :)
[18:31] <peewee22> quit
[18:31] <webPragmatist> Pici: ah thanks… ill just add the source manually then
[18:32] <jpmut> Zykotick9, thank you! Just what I needed!
[18:32] <pksadiq> Guest35962: or just note the commands      first login to command line then 1) sudo service gdm start           if some errors occur and goes back to command line , then type 1) Xorg -configure
 Ok It good recomendation
[18:33] <pksadiq> Guest35962: Xorg -configure will tell you what to do next, ok?
[18:33] <Guest35962>  <pksadiq> I begin and close templorary the chat
[18:35] <Lukas> hi
[18:35] <losty> hey, does anyone find OO or LO display MS Word docs differently? (ie. if its 2 pages on ms word, on OO/LO takes up 3, pushes 1 line more onto next page)
[18:35] <BlackBishop> ok, any idea how can I move the mouse using the keyboard ?
[18:35] <aqfiri> bonsoir tout le monde je vois pas de diference entre gnone 2.30.1 et les autres
[18:35] <BlackBishop> I have "mouse keys" set to on !
[18:35] <Lukas> is there a way to improve my gaming performance at ubuntu?
[18:35] <BlackBishop> but .. how do I move it ?
[18:36] <ZykoticK9> BlackBinary, number pad I believe
[18:36] <BlackBishop> ZykoticK9: tried that .. doesn't do anything ..
[18:36] <BlackBishop> with numlock on and off
[18:36] <losty> Lukas whats your hw specs? and what are you running?
[18:36] <dr3af> Hello , i need to find where the openjdk is installed. Ane help?
[18:36] <dr3af> any*
[18:36] <Lukas>  hw?
[18:37] <PseudoGou> Is there a way to make the start menu bar non-transparent in Kubuntu KDE?
[18:37] <coz_> BlackBinary,  I believe that option is under accessibility
[18:37] <losty> Lukas i mean hardware
[18:37] <Lukas> oh
[18:37] <Lukas> ok
[18:37] <Lukas> i use intel core i5 460m
[18:37] <Lukas> 4 gb ram
[18:37] <gkx> Hey, guys. I just updated from 10.10 to 11.04 and I'm getting a purple screen. Help?
[18:37] <coz_> gkx,   w hich video card is  on that system?
[18:38] <gkx> coz_, NVIDIA
[18:38] <losty> Lukas thats pretty sweet, are you using wine to run your game?
[18:38] <Lukas> und graphics is ati mobiliti radeon hd 5650 1 gb vram
[18:38] <Lukas> yeah
[18:38] <gkx> NVIDIA somethin' somethin'
[18:38] <pksadiq> dr3af: by default /usr/lib/jvm/ .... else try      locate openjdk    command
[18:38] <Lukas> the is called starcraft 2
[18:38] <coz_> gkx,  this blue screen,,, can you right click for desktop menu?
[18:39] <PseudoGou> Where can I read about customization in KDE?
[18:39] <gkx> coz_, no
[18:39] <losty> Lukas have you tried http://wiki.winehq.org/Performance ?
[18:39] <brown_fern> losty: Yes, I've noticed formating discrepancies between Microsoft Word and Open Office. I don't know of any work around for this problem though. I have some documents with lots of formating, and most of it translates well, but what doesn't is nerve racking. :-/
[18:39] <gkx> coz_, nothing I do seems to work at all.
[18:39] <Lukas> not yet
[18:39] <gkx> It gives me a command line with all the things that it does when I shut it off.
[18:39] <coz_> gkx,   ok you can try rebooting and holding down the left shift key until you get to the grub menu,, then hit  "e"  and add    nomodeset  just before quiet splash in the kernel boot stanza
[18:39] <Lukas> but i think i will do it now
[18:40]  * MonkeyDust glad to NOT have nvidia
[18:40] <losty> brown_fern i thought it was only me!! lol, but it is rather nerve racking, because i dont want to send out a scruffy doc to a client!
[18:40] <Osmodivs> Hello, I want to install a Windows game, but in the instructions they tell me this: Now run daemon tool or alcohol 120% and mount "SC4DELUXE1.mdf", it will auto play and you should see install, So, what's Linux version of Wondows "alcohol 120%"
[18:41] <webPragmatist> what's the oposite of a command like sudo update-rc.d php-fastcgi defaults
[18:41] <webPragmatist> to uninstall this service
[18:41] <coz_> gkx,  when you get there , just use the arrow keys to place the insertion spot for typing that in
[18:41] <gkx> coz_, it's not giving me the GRUB bootloader
[18:41] <losty> Lukas also read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604594 and
[18:41] <OctoByte> Osmodivs: What game? Windows games rarely work well on Linux even using wine
[18:41] <losty> hope it helps
[18:41] <eddiemonge> anyone know a fix for 11.04 when connected to an external monitor and changing the resolution only a fraction of the resolution is usable?
[18:41] <pksadiq> Osmodivs: if you are using wine try the windows alcohol itself, anyway I don't think the game could find the image mounted in native linux app
[18:41] <brown_fern> losty: Yes, I have that same "spaces" problem, I don't know what to do about it.
[18:41] <gkx> I just used ctrl+alt+f4 to get to the login screen
[18:42] <coz_> gkx,   ah oh,,, mm  sounds bad,,,  trying to think of an alternative ,, hold on
[18:42] <Osmodivs> OctoByte, Well, I played Half-Life and worked pretty good.
[18:42] <Lukas> does these pages also exist in german?
[18:42] <Osmodivs> OctoByte, But I want to install SimCity 4000
[18:42] <losty> brown_fern there is an update floating about, but i havent updated, not sure if will make a difference, but i can only hope...
[18:42] <losty> Lukas try opening the page using google chrome and translate if that helps
[18:43] <Lukas> no
[18:43] <eyadof> please why team viewer show a black screen when i connect to ubuntu
[18:43] <Lukas> google chrome translate bad
[18:43] <Lukas> very bad
[18:43] <Lukas> in german
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> !details| eyadof
[18:44] <OctoByte> Osmodivs: Try acetone. I don't know how well it will wokr or if it even supports mdf though
[18:44] <losty> Lukas im not sure, maybe copy and paste the content to another online translator?
[18:44] <szal> Lukas: what do you expect from a machine translation?
[18:44] <coz_> gkx,   can you get to text console when you hit ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[18:44] <OctoByte> Osmodivs: If you can convert the mdf to and ISO there is a way you can mount the image like a drive
[18:44] <Lukas> ok i try to read it in english i think i will understand it
[18:45] <gkx> coz_, yes
[18:45] <OctoByte> Osmodivs: sudo mount -t iso9660 filename.iso /media/iso, if you can convert to ISO
[18:45] <losty> Lukas i dont know any german, but do ask if you get stuck, maybe we have some german speakers that may be able to translate
[18:45] <coz_> gkx,  you can then run   sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx* nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-settings  which will remove the previous nvidia drivers,, if , then, you get to the desktop,, reinstall the drivers via  hardware drivers      aka   jockey-gtk then reboot
[18:45] <Lukas> ok thanks for help
[18:46]  * MonkeyDust knows german
[18:46] <losty> Lukas no worries, hope it helps! :D
[18:46] <coz_> gkx,  in text console after remvoving nvidia drivers  type    sudo init 6   to reboot
[18:46] <Lukas> yeah i still hope it helps
[18:46] <antariksh> hi
[18:46] <losty> hello antariksh
[18:47] <Osmodivs> OctoByte, That way I can convert the .mdf file into an ISO? but then i wont be able to install it, because I can't change permissions after it has been burned into a CD
[18:47] <eyadof> ok i have team viewer 6 on ubuntu 11.04 the proplem is when i try to connect to any ubuntu the team viewer give a black screen my card is ati mobility radeon hd 5470 512MB
[18:47] <antariksh> ur asl pls
[18:47] <Corey> !ot | antariksh
[18:47] <gkx> coz_, Should I have to restart to get to the desktop?
[18:47] <losty> lol thanks Corey
[18:47] <pksadiq> info furiusisomount
[18:48] <`Shikhin> !guidelines
[18:48] <pksadiq> !info furiusisomount
[18:48] <antariksh> hi losty
[18:48] <antariksh> hello
[18:48] <oCean> antariksh: hello, do you have a support question?
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> antariksh: this channel is for technical support, only
[18:49] <pksadiq> !info mdf2iso | Osmodivs or this
[18:50] <OctoByte> Osmodivs: You can mount the iso image as is without burning it to a cd, but I don't think you can change permissions on the image anyway
 Hello I after rebooting
[18:51] <pksadiq> Guest21095: so now, what did you got at Xorg -configure  ?
[18:51] <gkx> coz_, still got a purple screen
 Problem with nvidia's driver not resolved
[18:52] <pksadiq> Guest21095: so now, what did you got at Xorg -configure  ?
[18:53] <gkx> coz_, also, regarding restarting, I didn't see your other message. :P
[18:53] <pksadiq> Guest21095: do the same above steps with the driver nvidia-current, I hope that would help you
 Yes I go to command line then tried gdm start stop startx .... Then I made comman Xorg -configure and got error: "EE intel(0); no kernel modesettings driver detected"
[18:53] <coz_> gkx,  oh to restart from text console    sudo   init 6
[18:53] <pksadiq> Guest21095: intel? do you actually have nvidia?
[18:54] <gkx> coz_, yeah, did that, still purple screen
[18:54] <coz_> gkx,  oooo
[18:54] <dgags> hi folks, quick question, I am running ubuntu 10.10 server, what is the command line equivalent to the GUI updater?
[18:54] <coz_> gkx,  hmm,, then I am puzzled at this point,, i never reccoment an upgrade from one version to another symply because troubleshooting is more difficult and even more so with  10.10  to 11.04  because of the major changes
[18:54] <jpmut> Zykotick9, lol I just found out that the built-in System Monitor has a graph for Bandwidth too.
[18:54] <sidd> hi
[18:54] <ZykoticK9> dgags, "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" would be the full GUI exquivalant
[18:55] <coz_> gkx,  if possible,, I would install fresh to  be sure these issues are indeed a result of the upgrade
[18:55] <ZykoticK9> jpmut, true ;)
[18:55] <gkx> coz_, that's what I did earlier today
[18:55] <dgags> ZykoticK9: Thanks a ton. Much appreciated.
[18:55] <coz_> gkx,  clean install?
[18:55] <gkx> clean install of 10.10
 I primery see Nvidia in menu->Additional Drivers
[18:55] <coz_> gkx,  oh well I meant clean install for 11.04
[18:55] <pksadiq> Guest21095: in terminal type      sudo lshw -C video      , does it shows Nvidia? or intel?
[18:56] <gkx> coz_, yeah but that means I have to get an iso of 11.04
[18:56]  * gkx groans
[18:56] <pksadiq> Guest21095: Try this please     sudo lshw -C video
[18:56] <mingmen>  hi i am new in ubuntu 11 can someone help me
[18:56] <coz_> gkx,  if you do that ,, I would like to suggest   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD    it is only 19 megs making download corruption . package colissioins,, near  impossible,, and it is up to date after t he install
[18:56] <gkx> Of course, I've DEFINITELY put more effort into trying to update than it would to get an ISO of 11.04.
[18:57] <gkx> coz_, that sounds awesome. Thanks!
[18:57] <dgags> ZykoticK9: Will that perform an upgrade to the latest version? I just want updates...
[18:57] <coz_> gkx,       although the mini cd is NOT a live cd
[18:57] <gkx> coz_, oh, how do I get it on the computer, then?
[18:57] <ZykoticK9> dgags, no - just update packages (fully)
[18:57] <nimbiotics> While trying to install GIMP, im getting a 'Package dependencies cannot be resolved' error. Full message at http://paste.ubuntu.com/620967/. How can I fix this? TIA!
[18:57] <mingmen>  how can i edit propreties in menu bar i want it to be transparent
[18:57] <coz_> gkx,  you will get to a point where you choose which evnironment you want to install,,, just use the arrows to scroll and the SPACE bare to tick the box  NOT the enter key
[18:57] <dgags> ZykoticK9: pardon my doubt, thanks again.
[18:58] <coz_> gtk it will boot into the install procedure
[18:58] <gkx> coz_, I don't understand, though. How do I start the ISO, if not from a live CD?
 I see two point 1- product: nVidia Corporation 2- product: Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
[18:58] <jrib> nimbiotics: pastebin: apt-cache policy gimp
[18:58] <ZykoticK9> nimbiotics, i'm guessing you have some 3rd party repo that is interfering.  If not try running "sudo apt-get update" and try your install again.
[18:58] <coz_> gkx,    well o nce you download that mini cd ,, burn it to disk,, but check the md5sums first just in case, on the iso image
[18:58] <pksadiq> Guest21095: ok, then uninstall your 173 dirver and install nvidia-current and repeat the steps
[18:59] <mingmen> 9283
[18:59] <sidd> hi
[18:59] <coz_> gkx,  then reboot with that cd  and you will be directed   on what to do ,, it is not difficult
[18:59] <mingmen>  how can i meke the menu bar transparent
[18:59] <mingmen> ?
[18:59] <coz_> gkx,  the only thing you have to remember  is when you get the "blue" list of environments,, to use the arrows to scroll the list,, and the SPACE bar to tick the box
 I done the steps 1 day ago
[19:00] <ZykoticK9> Guest21095, i'm not sure what the support is like for these hybrid-nvidia/intel cards.  What card is it?  "lspci | grep -i vga" to find out.
[19:00] <coz_> gkx,  I suggest ticking the gnome desktop . for Unity
[19:00] <coz_> gkx,  rather Ubuntu desktop
[19:00] <coz_> gkx,  I believe it is listed as  ubuntu desktop in stead of gnome desktop
[19:00] <Lcawte> Hi, how do I get ubottu to log the channel for the gaming team?
[19:00] <pksadiq> Guest21095: oh, harder, but I think you have not run Xorg -configure     last day
[19:00] <dforthman> Hi. I just upgraded to 11.04 and it won't start the userspace splashscreen
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[19:01] <grendal-prime> ok i find this odd...is there NO speech recognition solution for linux?
[19:01] <grendal-prime> i need JARVIS
[19:01] <ZykoticK9> Guest21095, it doesn't show the nvidia at all eh?  hummm.
[19:02] <pksadiq> ZykoticK9: shows both :O
[19:02] <grendal-prime> i mean straight up with the cnc machine from hell.
[19:02] <ZykoticK9> pksadiq, see Guest21095's paste above
[19:02] <grendal-prime> i want to tell this thing..."make me ironman suit" and i want it to ask what color.
[19:03] <mzuverink> How do I change owner of file and content from root to a user?
[19:03] <jrib> !permissions | mzuverink
[19:03] <jrib> mzuverink: what file?
[19:03] <ZykoticK9> mzuverink, chown in a terminal
[19:03] <pksadiq> ZykoticK9: scroll a little back and see
[19:03] <ZykoticK9> pksadiq, oh i saw the origional post - but if lspci (grep vga) only shows the intel???
[19:03] <pksadiq> Guest21095: so you have two graphics cards? or one Onboard and one Graphics card?
[19:03] <Lcawte> Hi, how do I get ubottu to log the channel for the gaming team?
[19:04] <mzuverink> ZykoticK9, chow username?
[19:04] <ZykoticK9> mzuverink, "chown username:username file"
[19:04] <kLown> if i install 11.04 on a primary drive, after installing win7 on a secondary drive, will grub pick up the two operating systems and allow me to boot between them?
[19:04] <mzuverink> ZykoticK9, dir too
[19:05] <ZykoticK9> mzuverink, and it it's owned by root - you need sudo.  What are you actually changing the owner of?
[19:05] <celthunder> kLown, it should and if it doesn't it's not hard to add a second os
[19:05] <jrib> mzuverink: changing ownership of certain files will break your system.  What files are you chowning?
[19:05] <mzuverink> ZykoticK9, a dir of .mp3s
[19:05] <kLown> celthunder: Is this going to cause an issue since the mbr is on the second drive (id assume)?
[19:05] <ZykoticK9> mzuverink, "chown -r user:user dir/" then
 The laptop samsung RC710 I don't open it
[19:06] <mzuverink> ZykoticK9, thank you!
[19:06] <celthunder> kLown, grub will ask you where your mbr is
 I can send log of command sudo lshw -C video
[19:07] <pksadiq> Guest21095: did you first checked with none of the drivers installed? if so I think you need to install nvidia-current        what does the line        product:        is shownin       sudo lshw -C video          ?
[19:08] <nimbiotics> ZykoticK9: I tried that and also booting in recovery mode and fixing broken packages. any ideas?
[19:08] <dforthman> Ok, so I have to go to "Previous linux versions" then any of those work with 11.04 running, but the main linux in grub won't load the userspace splashscreen
[19:08] <ZykoticK9> nimbiotics, sorry no.  Good luck.
 Ok. For install current driver must I go to command line and stop gdm or not?
[19:09] <pksadiq> Guest21095: ok paste it at  http://paste.ubuntu.com/  and paste the link here
[19:09] <Lcawte> !ubottu
[19:09] <nets> hi all! plz a quick example how do i use makefile command
[19:10] <kLown> celthunder: when it asks me to create a partition, do i mark it as logical, or primary?
[19:10] <th0r> nets: you just type make
[19:10] <celthunder> kLown, generally primary
[19:10] <celthunder> nets, use a text editor? then make when it's how you want?
[19:10] <kLown> celthunder: thanks, thought so, but I've never dual booted windows and linux before
[19:10] <celthunder> kLown, how many partitions are you making on the drive you get 4 primary
[19:11] <kLown> celthunder: just one, the entire drive.
[19:11] <nets> i dont get it:(
[19:11] <celthunder> kLown, ok then yeah primary
[19:11] <celthunder> nets, Makefile is just a text file the make command uses...so you can just use a text editor on it
[19:12] <ZykoticK9> kLown, technically that will probably give you 2 partitions (if you use a swap partition, by default Ubuntu does) - but primary is certainly the way to go.
[19:12] <kLown> is a swap partition required?
[19:12] <celthunder> kLown, no
[19:12] <kLown> im using a 500gig hdd for this install.
[19:12] <ZykoticK9> kLown, no - but highly recommended
[19:12] <pksadiq> Guest21095: if you need to install nvidia-current you don't need to stop gdm   but you need to remove all the previous nvidia packages installed
[19:12] <ZykoticK9> kLown, required for hibernation
[19:13] <brown_fern> kLown: Perhaps you already know that there can be only 4 primary partitions, one of those 4 can be used as an extended partition to then be utilized and subdivided for logical partitions.
[19:13] <kLown> brown_fern: you just confused me really bad :P
[19:13] <nets> okey. i think i get it , so if i want to install something how do i do it then?
[19:13] <celthunder> kLown, Zykotik9 you can make a swapfile later in your / partition if you need it...I've not had a swap file/partition in 2 years works fine
[19:13] <nets> apt-get doest work
[19:14] <nets> *doesnt
[19:14] <celthunder> nets, generally ./configure make's a Makefile then make then make install
[19:14] <kLown> Normally if I create a swap file now, from a 500gig drive, what size should it be?
[19:14] <bastidrazor> kLown: the same size as your RAM.
[19:14] <th0r> kLown: depends on the amount of ram
[19:14] <kLown> k, so 8 gigs.  thanks.
[19:15] <celthunder> kLown, how much ram do yo uhave...if you have over 2GB generally 128MB is good enough unless you're doing video editing or something that's going to take all your ram up
[19:15] <ZykoticK9> bastidrazor, actually "slightly" larger then RAM if you want hibernate ;)
[19:15] <oCean> nets: read here how to compile software: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[19:15] <nets> thanks
[19:15] <celthunder> kLown, yeah you can get by with no swap or a very small one with 8GB depending on what you're doing with it
[19:15] <nets> i just wanted to search on google
[19:15] <nets> cuz im a retard
[19:15] <celthunder> nets, what're you trying to install?
[19:15] <kLown> as long as I can add it later, I'll skip it for now
[19:16] <nets> cowpatty
[19:16] <ZykoticK9> kLown, swap file != swap partition, just sayin'
[19:16] <celthunder> ZykoticK9 he shouldn't ever hit swap anyway
[19:16] <inktri> where is the httpd home directory located if you install apache via the repository?
[19:17] <celthunder> inktri, /var/www?
[19:17] <ZykoticK9> celthunder, of course it is possible for advanced users to run without swap, but it makes life a lot easier if it's there... just sayin'
[19:17] <bastidrazor> celthunder: swap has more uses than just extra RAM.. like hibernation
[19:18] <celthunder> bastidrazor other than hibernation and extra ram?
[19:18] <losty> brown_fern i just asked in #libreoffice about ms doc in oo/lo - was advised to install MS core fonts, il give it a go, thought id let you know
[19:18] <nimbiotics> While trying to install GIMP, im getting a 'Package dependencies cannot be resolved' error. Full message at http://paste.ubuntu.com/620967/. How can I fix this? TIA!
[19:18] <albertito_> olaa
[19:19] <albertito_> hijo de puta
[19:19] <yaaar> !? visudo doesn't use vi !?
[19:19] <celthunder> yaaar $EDITOR=vi
[19:19] <celthunder> or EDITOR=vi
[19:19] <celthunder> rather sorry don't need the $ to mke the variable
[19:19] <brown_fern> losty: thank you, I've been looking for an answer to that problem for some time! :)
[19:20] <celthunder> yaaar you cna add it to your bashrc if yo uwant it set every login
[19:21] <edwardthefma> hello all
[19:21] <ahnfelt> How do I disable the auto-show of the side bar in 11.04?
[19:21] <CyborgSmurf> I have installed playOnLinux to be able to run MS Office 2007, although Access did not get installed
[19:21] <coz_> ahnfelt,  open ccsm and click on the Ubuntu Unity plugin to get into it's settings
[19:21] <ahnfelt> I'm there
[19:22] <CyborgSmurf> How can I install Access 2007?
[19:22] <coz_> ahnfelt,  there is a pull down menu for "Hide Launcher"
[19:22] <ahnfelt> coz_: what's the setting?
[19:22] <coz_> ahnfelt,  you can set that to "Autohide"
[19:23] <yaaar> celthunder: i just edited .bashrc and logged out/in and now 'echo $EDITOR' tells me 'vim' (yes, it's there) but 'visudo' still gives me a nano session
[19:23] <nets> if i made my linux 20gb big can i change the size after i installed it??
[19:23] <ahnfelt> just a second, ubuntu is freezing on me now
[19:24] <celthunder> nets, i wouldn't recommend it but yes it's probably possible
[19:24] <nets> :)
[19:24] <raubvogel> What is the last relase of ubuntu that works on arm v5 cpus?
[19:24] <nets> okey then i hope i remember it wrong and it was 30gb
[19:24] <ahnfelt> I have revealmode = none and autohide on
[19:24] <yaaar> wow that's really stupid. why doesn't visudo respect either $VISUAL or $EDITOR ?
[19:24] <celthunder> yaaar:  VISUAL needs to be set to vim
[19:25] <ahnfelt> it still shows when I put the cursor in the upper left corner
[19:25] <yaaar> celthunder: it's set to vim too
[19:25] <celthunder> yaaar:  idk then...
[19:25] <ahnfelt> coz_: but what does autohide have to do with not showing the side bar?
[19:25] <pksadiq> yaaar: might be you have to export them after defining
[19:25] <celthunder> yaaar:  actually if both  are set to vim and it gives you nano that's disturbing
[19:25] <yaaar> pksadiq: they show up when i echo them
[19:26] <pim_> Hello when I use 'mount' ubuntu will complain that mount: can't find /media/tempmount in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab. Why is this? Standard unix behaviour is that it will mount it at /media/tempmount
[19:26] <ahnfelt> coz_: I'd like to not show it - not automatically hide it (well I want that too, but that's the default behaviour)
[19:26] <coz_> ahnfelt,  well if you mean the large Launcher bar in Unity on the left screen edge,, that is the setting to adjust its behavior
[19:26] <celthunder> pim_, well add a rule for what to mount to /media/tempmount in /etc/fstab
[19:27] <ahnfelt> coz_: hmm, but I'm still not sure how to make it *never* show
[19:27] <coz_> ahnfelt,   well if it is set to automatic  hide it will not show up unless you call it by cursor in left upper corner
[19:27] <CyborgSmurf> pim_: If you want to mount as a CD then install Gmount Iso
[19:27] <pim_> celthunder I don't need a rule, i just want to mount it right there
[19:27] <celthunder> pim_, then mount <device> <where>
[19:27] <celthunder> you probably skipped the device part
[19:27] <losty> brown_fern i tried the installer for microsoft true type font in software centre - it installed, but still getting same issue, not sure if you've had any luck with it
[19:27] <coz_> ahnfelt,  rather set to  autohide
[19:27] <ahnfelt> coz_: oh yeah thanks; I should have made clear that I already had that behaviour
[19:28] <coz_> ahnfelt,  ah I see,  i dont know of a way to "remove" the launcher however
[19:28] <wmarone> goddamnit
[19:28] <yaaar> pim_: you can only mount with one argument if the fs is in the fstab ...otherwise you have to say what and where
[19:28] <ahnfelt> coz_: the problem is that I constantly hit the upper right corner, and it's driving me nuts :)
[19:28] <wmarone> why doesn't grub show a list of kernels on boot on random systems?
[19:28] <coz_> ahnfelt,  or just log into the classic session
[19:28] <ahnfelt> *upper left
[19:28] <jnlsnl_> Using ubuntu 10.10 ...How can i execute a bash script upon login? Also the script uses sudo
[19:28] <brown_fern> losty: I haven't tried it yet, I'll have to at some point though.
[19:28] <celthunder> wmarone because you don't have them listed in your menu.lst?
[19:28] <workstation> Hello, may someone help me find out how to install whole disk encryption on xubuntu 11.04 live (not the alternate version though). Thanks in advanced.
[19:28] <coz_> ahnfelt,   right I understand that ,, it can be a painful new adjustment in how you conduct work on the desktop
[19:28] <pim_> I know how mount works. I did: sudo mount -o someiso.iso /media/tempmount
[19:29] <kLown> k, I installed 11.04, but windows bootloader is coming up, how to I fix this, and make it grub?
[19:29] <celthunder> jnlsnl_, .bashrc .xinitrc .profile depending when you want it executed
[19:29] <pim_> on slackware and other linuxes it will mount this way...
[19:29] <wmarone> celthunder: it's whatever grub is available in 10.04, which doesn't use menu.lst last I checked. And there should be at least 4 entries.
[19:29] <wmarone> but even if I hold the shift keys it's just booting the same broken kernel over and over
[19:29] <oCean> pim_: you need the loop option mount -o loop blah.iso /blah
[19:29] <ahnfelt> coz_: Heh
[19:29] <celthunder> pim_, no it won't unless you added the entries to /etc/fstab
[19:30] <jnlsnl_> celthunder its basically: sudo stop udev, then sudo start udev ...fixes a kernel bug that will spam DRDY error
[19:30] <ahnfelt> coz_: That's funny
[19:30] <jnlsnl_> not sure when would be best to run ut
[19:30] <jnlsnl_> it*
[19:31] <wmarone> fuck I hate grub 2
[19:31] <oCean> wmarone: control your language
[19:31] <celthunder> wmarone so do i
[19:32] <coz_> ahnfelt,  are you on a desktop or laptop?
[19:32] <ahnfelt> coz_: laptop
[19:32] <kLown> !grub | klown
[19:32] <ahnfelt> coz_: but with a mouse, a keyboard and a screen
[19:33] <workstation> My someone help me with setting whole disk encryption on xubuntu 11.04?  Thanks in advanced.
[19:33] <coz_> ahnfelt,  ah ok,, i was going to suggest easystroke but I have no laptop to test it with,, it is a systemic gesture recognition software which , in my opinion, should be automatically installed on all distributions especially 11.04
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[19:33] <html_inprogress> whats the best os  for a amto cup 1.6 ghz 1 ddr3  , wind 7 ?
[19:33] <ahnfelt> coz_: hmm, what does it do?
[19:33] <coz_> ahnfelt,  it allows quick access to applications,, closing them ,, even compiz settings with simple , visible , mouse gestures
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[19:34] <ahnfelt> coz_: by the way, this is one thing I won't adjust in my mouse usage - it is incredibly inefficient not to use the screen border and corners for resetting your cursor
[19:34] <CyborgSmurf> I need help with installing MS Office Access. I have PlayOnLinux installed and the other progs like excel, word etc. works fine but Access didn't got installed
[19:34] <coz_> ahnfelt,  understood
[19:35] <coz_> ok I have to break here,, grocery shopping and all ,, be back later
[19:35] <ahnfelt> coz_: thanks for trying help though :)
[19:35] <siddhion> how can i make it so ubuntu asks for password upon resuming from hibernation and standby?
[19:35] <pksadiq> !patebin | Guest21095
[19:35] <pksadiq> !pastebin | Guest21095
[19:36] <ahnfelt> Does it bother anybody else that the side bar pops up when touching the upper left corner?
[19:36] <ZykoticK9> siddhion, it "should" by default, but I've experienced it NOT doing so.  Good luck.
[19:36] <pksadiq> Guest21095: anyway here its 12:00 midnight :)
[19:36] <html_inprogress> whats the best os  for a atom cpu 1.6 ghz 1 ddr3  , wind 7 ?
[19:36] <kLown> lol, I guess I destroyed my windows bootloader when I installed 11.04
[19:36] <brown_fern> nets: I was looking up information on Parted, what Gparted is a front-end to, and found this document which may state some limitations to resizing partitions with Parted. http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_node/resize.html#resize
[19:36] <CyborgSmurf> Has anyone got Access to run under PlayOnLinux?
[19:36] <celthunder> kLown, chainload to it
[19:36] <siddhion> ZykoticK9, right but now i need to passowrd protect it and everything i try with gconf-editor doesnt work!
[19:37] <oCean> html_inprogress: this channel is for ubuntu support only. Maybe try asking suggestions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:37] <ZykoticK9> siddhion, sorry I don't have any suggestions.
[19:37] <kLown> celthunder: how do I do that?
[19:37] <nets> brown_fern: thanks
[19:37] <siddhion> ZykoticK9, thanks anyways :)
[19:37] <winmutt> anyone using snmp with stock mibs?
[19:37] <winmutt> i cant seem to get them to load properlyu
[19:38] <brown_fern> nets: You're welcome, I don't know how current that page is but it might give you a ruff outline at least.
[19:38] <celthunder> winmutt, you have only 1 root server?
[19:38] <pim_> well really I have checked: sudo mount -o something.iso /media/somedir should really mount the iso file and not complain about fstab or mtab, what is going on here?
[19:39] <brown_fern> rough
[19:39] <oCean> pim_: again use loop
[19:39] <winmutt> celt: come again?
[19:39] <oCean> pim_: mount -o loop blah.iso /blah
[19:39] <html_inprogress> oCean,  thats why im here  ,silly ... i no nothing of a atom cup, or a netbook, but i do know theres a ton of ubuntu flavors out there, im not sure what one
[19:39] <pim_> oCean doesn't -o do loop?
[19:39] <winmutt> celthunder: come again?
[19:39] <celthunder> pim_, no -o lets you set other stuff you could do bind loop etc
[19:39] <celthunder> winmutt, snmp...you only get 1 root server ...do you have more than 1
[19:40] <oCean> pim_: in any linux -o is just a switch to the mount command. A switch that requires an option, such as rw, noexec or loop
[19:40] <celthunder> that would cause it to not work...and break it quite bad
[19:40] <pim_> oCean that was clear thanks
[19:40] <tsunamie> gaaa - can someone tell me how the default vnc (remote desktop) thing works. I can vnc in, I can see a dot on my main system. However I can't see anythiong changing on the screen. I can see that it is actaully doing stuff on the laptop directly. but it's nto refreashing the screen
[19:40] <tsunamie> please save me
[19:40] <oCean> pim_: quite welcome
[19:40] <winmutt> celthunder: no i am jsut trying to use snmpwalk. Apparently the base mibs like ifName are no longer shipped
[19:41] <oCean> html_inprogress: my suggestion to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic still stands, since lots of such discussions can be found in that channel
[19:41] <celthunder> winmutt, no idea...my experience with snmp is mostly through cisco routers and dd-wrt
[19:41] <CyborgSmurf> Has anyone got Access to run under PlayOnLinux?
[19:41] <celthunder> html_inprogress, pick the one you want..
[19:42] <celthunder> CyborgSmurf, how about an error when you try installing it might be more useful
[19:42] <losty> html_inprogress you can try http://crunchbanglinux.org/ its a debian distro
[19:42] <tsunamie> anyone know why vino does not work?
[19:42] <tsunamie> I use 10.04
[19:43] <html_inprogress> oCean,celthunder, ok, but which one ?  i know ubuntu itself is WAYY to heavy,
[19:43] <CyborgSmurf> celthunder: the thing is that it installs fine, no errors whatsoever, but it just didnt include Access
[19:43] <lily> how to add permanent subtitle?
[19:44] <subone> I've been trying to install firefox 4 from ppa, all the sites say use ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable, then update, upgrade, install firefox-4.0, but there is no firefox-4.0. What am I doing wrong? Ubuntu 9.10
[19:44] <celthunder> html_inprogress, idk i use xmonad wm...pick one YOU want...and even a netbook can handle pretty much all wm's...might run some relaly slowly...fastest ones i've seen are openbox xmonad stump and awesome
[19:44] <celthunder> html_inprogress, start with the minimum install and build what you want..
[19:44] <ZykoticK9> subone, it "might" be due to the fact you're using 9.10.  Good luck.
[19:45] <Pici> subone: That ppa doesn't appear to have any packages for 9.10.
[19:46] <Pici> subone: You may want to upgrade as well, since 9.10 is no longer supported.
[19:46] <lily> how to add permanent subtitle?
[19:46] <Pici> lily: for what?
[19:46] <piesenelagua> quit
[19:46] <lily> for avi
[19:47] <ZykoticK9> lily, more details?  Are you encoding to AVI?  What program are you using?
[19:47] <lily> i haven't use yet
[19:48] <lily> i want to add permanent subtitle on a movie
[19:48] <CyborgSmurf> celthunder: are you still there?
[19:48] <kLown> k, my first attempt at dual booting failed.  Windows finally booted with no menus at all.  If I am trying to dual boot win 7 and 11.04..(win 7 on a secondary drive, and 11.04 on a primary) should I still install windows first, or does it only matter when they will be on the same drive?
[19:49] <celthunder> kLown, install windows first...and ike i said all you needed to do was chainload to the windows bootloader should work fine
[19:49] <celthunder> CyborgSmurf, yes
[19:49] <lily> i want to add permanent subtitle on a movie
[19:50] <CyborgSmurf> celthunder: My answer before was...the thing is that it installs fine, no errors whatsoever, but it just didnt include Access
[19:50] <celthunder> CyborgSmurf, i know i saw...and i don't have an answer to that..nore do i use ms office or playonlinux so without an error not much i can help you with
[19:51] <CyborgSmurf> celthunder: okay, thanks anyway
[19:51] <brown_fern> kLown: I'm not turning you way from IRC channels, but I would think that you need a guide or walk-through to aid you, I'd do some reading.
[19:51] <earthworm> hello
[19:51] <celthunder> earthworm, hi
[19:51] <earthworm> does someone knew how to make to splashscreen verbose at startup? removing quiet and splash does not work
[19:52] <earthworm> hi celthunder
[19:52] <earthworm> want to make the bootscreen verbose...
[19:52] <nit-wit> kLown, this may help. http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p23.html
[19:52] <CyborgSmurf> Anyone in here who has been able to get MS Access running under PlayOnLinux?
[19:54] <earthworm> @celthunder do you know how to make a verbose boot up, showing what is done at startup?
[19:54] <Pici> CyborgSmurf: Your best bet would be either to contact PlayOnLinux's support directly, use something like crossover office (commercial).
[19:54] <CyborgSmurf> Pici: thanks
[19:56] <Zzarkc-20> Hello. I need some help with bridging my wireless connection through Virtualbox running an Ubuntu server.
[19:56] <celthunder> earthworm, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/7197
[19:56] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, ok...
[19:56] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, more info
[19:56] <rly> How can I see CPU usage in Unity?
[19:57] <celthunder> rly, htop
[19:57] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, I've been looking up multiple guides, but I just can't seem to get an IP addressed to my server
[19:57] <rly> celthunder: like in an applet or something similar.
[19:57] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, do you have dhcp enabled on your network?
[19:57] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, Yes.
[19:57] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, are you able to manually give it an ip address..does it see other comp's on the network?
[19:58] <pim_> is there any info on why canonical chose unity rather than gnome?
[19:58] <auk> hello, if i run the command "sudo update-grub" from an ubuntu livecd, will it auto-detect the installed operating systems?
[19:58] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, My host can easily. The server is only seeing the local network. I'm trying to tell it to bridge in VB, but it's not recognizing it when i do ifconfig
[19:58] <earthworm> @celthunder removing quite and splash does not work
[19:59] <celthunder> earthworm: no idea then
[19:59] <nets> so ,i did get whit my installation to this error massage: fatal error: openssl/md5.h: No such file or directory what does this mean?
[19:59] <nets> i got openssl installed
[19:59] <celthunder> nets: that theres no openssl/md5.h file
[19:59] <rly> How can I get an 'open terminal' option in nautilus?
[19:59] <earthworm> @celthunder thx anyway ;) hope to find a solutinon
[19:59] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20: do yo uhave netadp and netflt loaded
[19:59] <auk> pim_: probably cause they were the main impetus behind the unity project
[19:59] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20: on the host
[19:59] <nets> just run apt-get openssl/md5.h??
[20:00] <nets> *install
[20:00] <celthunder> nets: no
[20:00] <rly> How can I see CPU usage in Unity in some kind of graphically pleasing manner equivalent of better to the applet in Gnome2.2*?
[20:00] <auk> pim_: and they declined to package gnome3 for 11.04 because gnome3 wasn't released yet iirc
[20:00] <bergNIX> why do links and webpages open in firefox even after i set chrome as default webbrowser?
[20:00] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder: Are those supposed to be in the repositories? I got the uml-utilities
[20:01] <WLU> once in a while my laptop freezes and the screen is distorted into horizontal lines. The only thing I can do is to shut down by pressing the power button. I left it one time running for a while to see what would happen but nothing happened. This is an Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 with ubuntu 10.04 gnome 2.30.2 and kernel 2.6.32. The laptop is a X61T lenovo tablet.
[20:01] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, they're part of the vbox kernel modules..not loaded by default but needed for bridging
[20:01] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, make sure they're on the host machine ...not needed in guest
[20:02] <celthunder> WLU, does it overheat
[20:02] <kLown> lol, this install is so jacked up, I cant even uninstall it.  I put either disk in, set it to run first, and the windows bootloader still runs.
[20:03] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, Where do I find these then? This is my first time trying to use a VM and I don't see any packages labeled that in the ubuntu repositories.
[20:03] <WLU> celthunder: no it does not and once I shut it down it reboots  and sometimes stays on for the whole day with no problems. It happens so randomly
[20:03] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, modprobe vboxnetadp vboxnetflt
[20:04] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, then start your vm
[20:04] <WLU> celthunder: do you know of any good stress test for the video card that I can run
[20:04] <FSHero> Hello; does anyone know how to avoid starting (K)ubuntu 10.04 with a blank screen using "radeon" drivers with an ATI Radeon HD5570?
[20:04] <celthunder> WLU, phorenix?
[20:05] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, So I typed those both in the command line, started my VM, and I'm still only getting the local connection.
[20:05] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, what's the adapter set to in settings?
[20:06] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, I had it set to Tap0 when I started because I forgot to change it from when I was trying to follow some tutorials.
[20:07] <Wampyre> are the apt sources for jaunty still available?
[20:07] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, uhm try using eth0
[20:07] <djazz1> I am unable to start update-manager (10.04)
[20:07] <djazz1> :/
[20:07] <djazz1> what to do?
[20:07] <celthunder> djazz1, error?
[20:07] <nets_> what can i do if my openssl/md5.h file is missing?
[20:07] <celthunder> Wampyre, probably yes
[20:07] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, I am trying to bridge through a wireless connection. I'm not plugged in through ethernet.
[20:07] <djazz1> nothing, just "loading" flashes, disappears
[20:07] <Pici> Wampyre: They're on http://old-releases.ubuntu.com , but you'll likely want to upgrade as Jaunty is no longer supported.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[20:07] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, the virtualmachine still uses eth0
[20:08] <djazz1> i opened it before it tried to update but failed "hash checksum not matching"
[20:08] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, the virtual machine doesn't give a shit if you're on wireless it has an eth0 device...that is bridged through the modules i just mentioned to your wireless on the host
[20:09] <robin0800> bergNIX: you have to set it in the preferred aplications too
[20:09] <perscitus> Does anyone know how to  keep unity from moving titlebar  to panel yet?
[20:09] <oCean> nets_: that's part of the libssl-dev package
[20:09] <Wampyre> pici, thanks.  Upgrading is not a viable option on this machine.  It's ppc based and I have no access to the bootloader
[20:09] <nets_> oCean: ok thanks
[20:09] <celthunder> djazz1, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=756864
[20:10] <bergNIX> robin0800, hey, you're right :) thanks
[20:10] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, Alright. So in my VB settings I have: Bridged Adapter with eth0, and under the adapter type I have Intel Pro/1000 MT Desktop
[20:10] <perscitus> Does anyone know how to  keep unity from moving titlebar  to panel yet?
[20:10] <brown_fern> kLown: It looks like the folks at Maximum PC started a good thread on the subject of dual-booting sometime back. The installation of an operating system is a multi-step process, so it's not something that you want a short IRC-like answer to alone. http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=63547
[20:10] <earthworm> hello, again...
[20:10] <Brovik> hi
[20:11] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, yeah so ifconfig eth0 up;then dhcpcd (or dhclient) eth0
[20:11] <earthworm> i removed splash quit from /etc/default/grub and made update-grub,
[20:11] <earthworm> but i still get no verbose output at startup, i would like to see the scripts which are starte at boottime...
[20:11] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, eth0 should then get a dhcp address on your network
[20:11] <djazz> celthunder: i am also unable to start terminal
[20:11] <djazz> :S
[20:11] <kLown> brown_fern: thanks for the info, but I have a new problem that I have to solve first.  I cannot uninstall either windows or ubuntu.  Everytime I try and get the disk to boot first, the windows bootloader boots..but it has no menus at all, so I cannot do anything with it.
[20:12] <celthunder> djazz, ctrl alt f1
[20:12] <djazz> i tried
[20:12] <djazz> i should reboot..
[20:12] <nets_> how do i install libssl-dev?
[20:12] <celthunder> nets_, apt-get install libssl-dev
[20:12] <nets_> O.O
[20:12] <perscitus> I want to remove window titlebar from top panel, how do i do that?
[20:12] <Brovik> lol
[20:12] <nets_> i think i tryed that
[20:12] <nets_> but i dont even know what im doing
[20:12] <nets_> but thanks:D
[20:13] <celthunder> nets_, whatever you're trying to build PROBABLY has a readme...and an install file.. read them...they'll tell you what you need to compile the package
[20:13] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, I think some of my stuff broke from the earlier tutorials. It froze on the dhclient
[20:14] <perscitus> I want to remove window titlebar when  it is maximize from top panel, how do i do that?
[20:14] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, I wanted to run those commands on my host right?
[20:14] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, no...on the guest
[20:14] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, the host already HAS an ip...you want the client to get one..the host is also wireless...the client's the one on eth0
[20:14] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, Well, I tried the ifconfig eth0 up on the guest and it didn't register the eth0 device
[20:14] <robin0800> perscitus: not sure you can in unity only in classic
[20:15] <pim_> is there any way to restart the graphical session?
[20:15] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, sudo ifconfig -a do you have an eth0
[20:15] <pim_> so something like xstart but then restart?
[20:15] <celthunder> pim_, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[20:15] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, Huh... I guess it is coming up as eth2???
[20:16] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, ok so use eth2 then
[20:17] <pim_> it says failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager what does that mean?
[20:17] <pim_> nothing else, just that
[20:17] <celthunder> pim_, what display manager are you using
[20:18] <pim_> standard one, i presume that is gdm?
[20:18] <semitones> Hi, I'm following this guid to stream music from one computer to another: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/582-stream-music-wirelessely-using-pulseaudio-server-device-chooser
[20:18] <semitones> it won't work for me, but one of the comments says that opening two ports allowed it to work for him. How do I open up ports in ubuntu?
[20:18] <celthunder> pim_, i think so
[20:18] <djazz> celthunder: reboot seemed to fix it, now it download the missing packages
[20:18] <semitones> (one computer is ubuntu 10.10, the other is lubuntu 10.04)
[20:18] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, The eth2 now has an eth2 inet6 address, but I don't believe it has an actual IP yet.
[20:19] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, At least I wasn't able to run my apt-get update
[20:19] <djazz> bluetooth works with 10.04! it dont in 11.04 or linuxmint 11 :D
[20:20] <celthunder> semitones iptables -A -p tcp -m tcp --dport <port> --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT
[20:20] <celthunder> semitones may need to change tcp to udp
[20:20] <semitones> thanks
[20:20] <perscitus> robin0800,  what is in classic?
[20:21] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, uhm...ok...can you give me the output in a pastebin to ifconfig -a please
[20:21] <semitones> celthunder: can I do two ports at once, or just run that once for each port
[20:21] <celthunder> semitones once for each port
[20:21] <celthunder> semitones check if it worked with iptables -L
[20:21] <semitones> it says "bad argument tcp" trying with udp
[20:22] <celthunder> semitones i may have made a typo then...tcp should work..
[20:22] <celthunder> even if it's not what you need
[20:22] <pim_> celthunder any idea why gdm won't start?
[20:22] <semitones> celthunder: I think it doesn't like the -p tcp part
[20:22] <ward_> my harddrive seems to b randomly winding up but yet i am doing nothing ?? how do i check HD0 activity ?
[20:22] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, What's the best way of copying the data from the guest server cli?
[20:23] <celthunder> pim_, did you try restarting it as root
[20:23] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, shared clipboard between host/guest probably
[20:23] <manawenuz> Hi , I'm have grub installed and am trying to make it boot from network , to use and NFS share as the root device , so i can unmount the system's root disk , and be able to use it , but i'm having trouble , i can do pxe , with no problem , and am using the following configuration for grub :
[20:23] <manawenuz> root (nd)
[20:23] <celthunder> ward_, vmstat
[20:23] <manawenuz> kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=172.17.23.1:/srv/el5 ip=dhcp
[20:24] <manawenuz> initrd /initrd.img
[20:24] <manawenuz> any ideas ?
[20:24] <perscitus> robinbowes,  i remove the ugly global menu thing in unity
[20:24] <bluethundr_> hey guys ... I'm attempting to install the amanda backup client onto a karmic server but I seem to be missing one moving part that's needed
[20:24] <bluethundr_> http://pastie.org/2033898
[20:24] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, I can't highlight the any of the output in the VM. Not sure how to copy it.
[20:24] <pim_> celthunder I restared it, it was as following: kill original gdm and then do sudo gdm
[20:25] <pim_> celthunder apparantly it is not allowed to have multiple instances of gdm running
[20:25] <grendal-prime> nobody on the voice recognition question?
[20:25] <celthunder> pim_, yeah restart should kill then restart it
[20:25]  * bluethundr_ thinks someone's stealing his thunder.... lol
[20:26] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, ok well...what have you all done to this so far...cause it should be as easy as ifconfig <device> up;dhcpcd <device>
[20:26] <bluethundr_> I need to install libkrb53 under karmic in order to get this working ... however I have searched with aptitude and nothing turns up
[20:27] <bluethundr_> does anyone have a suggestion on how to go about getting libkrb53 onto this box? libkrb53
[20:27] <lapsa> I updated latest stuff and now i can't log in, only through recovery mode. login windows just flickers when i hit on my user name. any ideas what's wrong?
[20:28] <Eastlander> I am having trouble getting my 6990 GPU to work with Boinc
[20:28] <Eastlander> ./clinfo doesn't detect it.
[20:28] <pim_> celthunder I killed it by hand
[20:29] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder: Edited /etc/sysctl.conf to uncomment: sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward=1, installed parprouted, used tunctl -b -u $USER, ip link set tap0 up, ip addr add 192.168.1.155/24 dev tap0, parprouted wlan0 tap0
[20:29] <Eastlander> Anyone know how to get opencl to work with the aTI 6990
[20:30] <ward_> celthunder, ty
[20:30] <celthunder> bluethundr_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=+libkrb53&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[20:30] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, I'm tempted to restart to see if it will reset some of those things. It seemed to last time I did.
[20:31] <perscitus> I want to remove window titlebar when  it is maximize from top panel, how do i do that?
[20:31] <bluethundr_> I see that libkrb53 is a kerberos library .. can someone clue me in on the best way to find out which package it's in?
[20:31] <bluethundr_> if this were centos I would do a yum whatprovides "/*libkrb53" at this point :)
[20:32] <celthunder> bluethundr_, pick one of the above packages and dl the .deb and dpkg -i it
[20:32] <szal> bluethundr_: apt-file is your friend ^^
[20:32] <Pici> bluethundr_: Two ways: apt-cache search libkrb53 or install apt-file and do sudo apt-file update and then apt-file search libkrb53
[20:32] <celthunder> bluethundr_, may not be the right way but it works
[20:32] <tbruff13> heyi need help i cant find a usb creator to create a live pin for opensuse using ubuntu
[20:32] <Pici> bluethundr_: In this case, there is a package called libkrb53
[20:32] <semitones> celthunder: I used "iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -d 0/0 -s 0/0 --dport <port> -j ACCEPT" instead. Does that do the same thing?
[20:33] <celthunder> semitones looks right
[20:33] <go8765432> hello. can anybody help me with ubuntu one authorization. i have this message Method "CreateItem" with signature "a{sv}(oayay)b"on interface "org.freedesktop.Secret.Collection" doesn't exist
[20:33] <bluethundr_> celthunder, and szal ok good info thanks
[20:33] <celthunder> semitones sorry i was doing the line i gve  you off the top of my head
[20:33] <Juankof> how i can have firefox 3.16 and firefox 4 at the same time in ubuntu 11.04???
[20:33] <semitones> no problem, it got me going on the right foot :p
[20:33] <Pici> go8765432: #ubuntuone would be the best place to ask
[20:34] <go8765432> Pici, thanks)
[20:34] <celthunder> jyankof set different prefix's when doing ./configure?
[20:35] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, I'll restart then.
[20:36] <Juankof> celthunder, how i can do that??
[20:36] <tbruff13> Hello i have tried unetbootin it did not work how can i switch to opensuse using ubuntu
[20:36] <go8765432> Pici, i think there is nobudy in #ubuntuone... becouse nobody answer me...
[20:36] <celthunder> Juankof, dl the sources to the 2 versions yo uwant and then when you do ./configure do ./configure --prefix=<difflocationthanthedefault> for one
[20:36] <ClusterFCK> who has the correct info to configure zeroc ice slice profiles (ice.slice is working fine, but profiles keeps on trowing an error 500 and complains about Ice not found. If i tweak it, put Ice into the PATH all is fine.)(aka. the manual is wrong / the defaults from the package dont work?) Thnx.
[20:37] <szal> tbruff13: that's a question for #suse
[20:37] <tbruff13> k
[20:37] <tbruff13> #suse
[20:37] <Juankof> celthunder, ok i going to do that
[20:37] <bluethundr_> pici do you happen to know which repo libkrb3 is in? I tried apt-file find libkrb53 and nothing turns up
[20:38] <moldy> hi
[20:38] <Brovik> hi
[20:38] <djazz> any changes in the kernel and/or bluetooth packages since 10.04?
[20:38] <tbruff13> szal no it is not i am using ubuntu right now to make the usb
[20:38] <celthunder> bluethundr_, the link i gave you earlier should have the .deb files
[20:38] <celthunder> djazz, yes
[20:38] <szal> tbruff13: doesn't matter what you use for it, you want to make a bootable openSUSE USB, and that's not a topic for #ubuntu
[20:39] <celthunder> djazz, i think the kernel is now on 3.0 rc2
[20:39] <djazz> celthunder: cuz bluetooth works in 10.04, but not above
[20:39] <moldy> on one of my systems network-manager is using an "auto eth0", and i have no idea where this is coming from. i have *nothing* about eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces. can anyone give me a hint on how to debug this?
[20:39] <bluethundr_> celthunder, ok nice thanks !
[20:39] <Juankof> celthunder, what location i can use? please give me a example
[20:39] <PeterNL> Hi, I have problems with fswebcam and/or v4l2. I set fscam to take a pic every second and that works for a few minutes but then it fails: http://paste.debian.net/119134/
[20:39] <Zzarkc-20> #exit
[20:39] <moldy> i need network-manager to use a connection "normal", "managed" connection
[20:39] <celthunder> Juankof, /usr/bin and /usr/sbin and if i'm not mistaken firefox4 starts with a different command...not sure about library support between the 2 though
[20:40] <brown_fern> kLown: It sounds like you're busy so just let me know if now isn't a good time, but when you say you can't get the DVD-ROM to boot before the hard disk drive boots, have you adjusted the boot order in the BIOS?
[20:40] <losty> not sure, but has anyone come across an issue with gwibber, whereby, you can't scroll using the arrow keys? (on 11.04)
[20:40] <lolcat> How can I check command line if I have a gpu?
[20:40] <go8765432> anybody know - in #ubuntuone anybody anser the questions? i hawe a problem with ubuntu-one...
[20:40] <celthunder> lolcat if yo usee anything on a display yo uhave a gpu
[20:40] <moldy> i tried disabling the ifupdown plugin in /etc/Networkmanager/NetworkManager.conf, but that did not help
[20:40] <lolcat> celthunder: I can only ssh to it
[20:40] <Juankof> celthunder, i can use /home/juankof/firefoxold  ???
[20:41] <celthunder> lolcat ok lshw or lspci
[20:41] <celthunder> Juankof, sure
[20:41] <kLown> brown_fern: yes, I have.  I finally forced ubuntu to boot first with the option in wubi, but its now stuck at "Try (hd0,1):  EXT2
[20:41] <lolcat> celthunder: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 [Radeon HD 4200]
[20:41] <celthunder> Juankof, you likely want to install one of them systemwide though
[20:41] <lolcat> celthunder: Is that a gpu?
[20:41] <celthunder> lolcat yes
[20:41] <vpavpa> hi room :)
[20:41] <lolcat> Oo
[20:41] <celthunder> vpavpa, hi
[20:43] <Juankof> celthunder, i have firefox 4 on the system from apt-get
[20:43] <celthunder> Juankof, kk
[20:43] <Juankof> celthunder, but i want also have firefox 3 for use firesheet
[20:44] <celthunder> Juankof, kk so dl ff3 sources and install to the dir you listed earlier should work fine
[20:44] <davebs> is it possible to only enable password authentication for one user while leaving all others on rsa key authentication?
[20:44] <Juankof> celthunder, thanks a lot. greeting from Bogota Colombia
[20:44] <celthunder> Juankof, mozilla used to release binary versions of ff too could just do that if it's there
[20:45] <celthunder> davebs, uhm for ssh?
[20:45] <vpavpa> i have a question; it's really no big deal but it's tingling me. I have a user aegir. I can't use "su - aegir" nor "su aegir" to switch user to aegir.
[20:45] <vpavpa> I have to user "su - s /bin/bash aegir" otherwise it's just not changing user.
[20:45] <vpavpa> Anyone has an idea what this is? The home of this user is /var/aegir
[20:45] <celthunder> davebs, disable the password for all the users that have ssh keys and then give the one you want to be able to use one a pw
[20:45] <davebs> celthunder, ftp, i have one guy that wants ftp access on an ec2 serverf
[20:45] <outofhand> hi
[20:46] <outofhand> i have just installed ubuntu 10.10 - only version i had.... and was awsome ... installed like a kind... and ran perfect ... i somehow have lost the top pannels 3 wordings "applications" "places" and "system" but my pannel is still there with my firefox icon ... time etc ..
[20:46] <celthunder> davebs, no idea then...i started using scp instead of ftp a while ago
[20:46] <davebs> celthunder, yeah, it's a pita, i don't want to give him access to whole box, just one directory in my home directory
[20:47] <outofhand> help me please
[20:47] <celthunder> davebs, install the ftpd as your user in your home dir and enable just 1 user with access to just that folder?
[20:47] <Brovik> telia.com its sucks
[20:47] <outofhand> please
[20:48] <davebs> celthunder, yeah, i did that but now i'm getting a critical error when i try logging in from ftp client
[20:48] <celthunder> davebs, anything in the log files
[20:48] <davebs> celthunder, i'm missing something somewhere, but i'm not sure what
[20:48] <davebs> good idea, let me check
[20:48] <celthunder> davebs, did you set the port above 1024
[20:48] <celthunder> davebs, (assuming you are running the ftpd as your user)
[20:48] <Ubulindy> outofhand just right click on your panel, then "add to panel" > main menu  OR menu list
[20:49] <grek> hy i have this
[20:49] <grek> http://wklej.to/lchRT
[20:49] <grek> xorg dont find devices
[20:49] <davebs> celthunder, just [username] FAIL LOGIN
[20:49] <grek> 1443.020] (EE) No devices detected.
[20:49] <semitones> I still can't get pulseaudio computers to see each other... :(
[20:49] <celthunder> davebs, does the user have a valid login (i'm assuming you're just using a passwd file in your home dir...
[20:49] <davebs> celthunder, i always get all confused but i'm thinking i need to enable password auth for all users
[20:49] <grek> i try setup multiseat
[20:49] <grek> any can help ?
[20:49] <davebs> celthunder, i added them as a user to the system
[20:50] <semitones> using this guide, I set it up, but I don't see the other computer http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/582-stream-music-wirelessely-using-pulseaudio-server-device-chooser
[20:50] <davebs> celthunder, although do i need to add specifically to vsftpd?
[20:50] <celthunder> davebs, ....and the ftpd as your local user...yeah that won't work
[20:50] <outofhand> @Ubulindy  -   thank you ... simple... and yet not clogging as the prevouse one was .... thank  you alot
[20:50] <Ubulindy> outofhand you're welcome
[20:51] <nets> oh yea finally everything is working and i just got 2 more easy questions: where can i have a look how much free space i got
[20:51] <celthunder> nets, df
[20:51] <celthunder> nets, df -h makes it a bit more readable
[20:51] <exxx> i need some help, my Internet has a firewall blocking the p2p (bit-torrent) protocal, so i cant connect to other peers - i was wondering if setting the bittorrent port to 80 or 22 would work??
[20:51] <nets> and what is the optimal free space to run ubuntu?
[20:51] <grek> this is my lspci
[20:51] <grek> http://wklej.to/nP0uW
[20:51] <nets> ty
[20:51] <celthunder> nets, ?
[20:52] <grek> i have nvidia and build intel
[20:52] <kLown> trying to force the ubuntu cd to install with the option on the cd, and when it reboots it asks me if i want to start win7 or ubuntu, I select ubuntu and it tells me "Try (hd0,0):  ntfs5:  no wubildr, then try (hd0,1):  EXT2:...stuck at Try (hd0,1):  EXT2, any ideas?
[20:52] <grek> graphics and kubuntu 11.04
[20:52] <grek> and try this manual
[20:52] <grek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1761305
[20:52] <nets> hommuch free space do i got to have for runnung ubuntu whitout lagging on the hard drive?
[20:52] <nets> 2-3gb? is enuff?
[20:52] <grek> mayby there you know where is problem
[20:53] <Ubulindy> exxxx no it wont and you should check here: http://wiki.vuze.com/w/Bad_ISPs   see if throttled/blocked
[20:53] <celthunder> nets, uhm at least a bit for /var and /tmp otherwise just enough to make your stuff
[20:53] <exxx> ohhh fuck u guyd
[20:53] <exxx> *guys
[20:53] <Craig`> hey guys, i'm using a cli program and for it's arguments it wants a drive, i was wanting the output on the local drive though how exactly would i specify this? i tried looking in /media but to no avail
[20:53] <celthunder> exxx glad to get free irc sex
[20:53] <celthunder> damn he left
[20:53] <Ubulindy> lol
[20:53] <nets> ty
[20:53] <nets> so df -h in console?
[20:53] <celthunder> craig /dev/sd<a-z><1-999>
[20:54] <Craig`> thanks celthunder
[20:55] <outofhand> Ubulindy---    how can i seperate the "places" to the pannel
[20:55] <Ubulindy> heck off the one below it
[20:55] <Ubulindy> it gives you other options
[20:55] <Ubulindy> *check
[20:55] <Ubulindy> main menu & menu bar
[20:56] <outofhand> Ubulindy---- you Sir ... are a leggend!!!
[20:56] <outofhand> many many many thanks !!!
[20:56] <outofhand> :)
[20:57] <Craig`> celthunder: how do i know which one it is? here are the files ("^sd") http://pastie.org/2034063
[20:57] <Ubulindy> hehe yw!
[20:57] <go8765432> can anybody help me with ubuntu one ?
[20:58] <celthunder> Craig`, which one do you want? your main drive seems to be sdc...you may have other media plugged in as sda sdb
[20:58] <celthunder> Craig`, the a-z part is to seperate between devices and the 1-99 is for each partition
[20:58] <Craig`> celthunder: well this machine is a plug computer, so i have an external hard drive as the main hard drive, i'm unsure what i want?
[20:58] <rinkukokiri> does anyone use empathy for yahoo im??
[20:59] <rinkukokiri> if so, can you verify this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/794240
[20:59] <celthunder> Craig`, ok what are you trying to do (that you need the drive parameter
[20:59] <Craig`> celthunder: Usage: iso2opl [SOURCE_ISO] [DEST_DRIVE] [GAME_NAME] [TYPE]
[20:59] <brown_fern> nets: You can look at the manual page for any command in the command line interface by preceding the term you're looking for with the command "man" . It would look look like this, "man df" .
[21:00] <Craig`> i the examples they use DEST_DRIVE to be /media/disk etc, but i'm wanting the output to go to the same place i execute the command
[21:01] <celthunder> Craig`, i think you need to mount your usb device first
[21:01] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, Hey man. Thanks for the help. I figured out the problem. Have a good day!
[21:01] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, what was it
[21:01] <celthunder> Zzarkc-20, and np...it should have been a 2 line solution..
[21:02] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, Well, in the Virtual box manager, I had to change the adapter back to wlan, then when I ran the ipconfig up and dhclient eth it worked fine.
[21:02] <nets> ok ,one last time a question: i got 11gb free space but i got a file wich is 13gb ,can i put it in one of my windows maps and tell a linux program to search it there?
[21:02] <natschil> Hello. Anyone know how to send a dial over an isdn modem connected to the computer?
[21:02] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, Now I'll just have to write a script that runs every time the server starts up like that.
[21:02] <nets> i mean to open it from there
[21:02] <Zzarkc-20> celthunder, Also it's weird, because the guest server likes to increment the eth every time I change the adapter.
[21:03] <rinkukokiri> can anyone that uses empathy for yahoo im add users to the block list for the yahoo account???
[21:03] <celthunder> natschil, ppp?
[21:05] <clakes> is there any safe to install a gnome shell session on ubuntu? it's appealing me more and more...
[21:05] <clakes> *safe way
[21:05] <ikonia> clakes: sorry, no
[21:05] <ward_> whats a non-nice cpu tick?
[21:05] <rinkukokiri> clakes, it WILL break
[21:06] <clakes> hm.. thought so.. i tried to some time ago and i ended up messing it all quite a lot, ikonia
[21:06] <rinkukokiri> clakes, just wait for 11.10
[21:06] <natschil> celthunder: no way without ppp?
[21:06] <kleopatra> How can i find out what includes my compiler uses by default, i think of the c++-header iostream for example. I have several Version of them 4.x
[21:06] <iostream> wut
[21:06] <clakes> rinkukokiri: i think i really will despite the lust
[21:07] <kinection> it seems like the ubuntu version of chpasswd doesn't have an -e option. is there a way to set the password of a user with a preencrypted string?
[21:07] <kinection> prehashed string
[21:07] <ikonia> clakes: sorry, canonical are not behind gnome shell, so it's up to community support, which is not mature at this time
[21:07] <iostream> clakes: get 10.10, it's the last working version of ubuntu
[21:07] <syst3mw0rm> i want to create a file containing lot of 1 using bash scripting
[21:07] <clakes> i'm a gnome2 die-hard actually
[21:07] <syst3mw0rm> to test different comression techniques
[21:07] <clakes> but yeah, ikonia ...i see the point, indeed
[21:07] <Craig`> celthunder: I mounted /dev/sdc1 to /mnt/usbdrive but when i use that as an argument it still complains, can i some how mount it to /media .. not too sure what to do.
[21:08] <clakes> iostream: what with 'get 10.10'?! last... (?!)
[21:08] <iostream> which part did you not understand?
[21:08] <clakes> i'm running 11.04 just fine, classic session, elegant gnome
[21:08] <iostream> really?
[21:09] <iostream> I tried it, and just about everything is broken
[21:09] <iostream> the graphics failed when doing a dist-upgrade, too
[21:09] <PeterNL> My laptop is connected to a wired network and a wifi network. Both provide dhcp and dns. How do I choose wich DNS server I want to use?
[21:09] <clakes> iostream: everything broken in natty?
[21:09] <syst3mw0rm> i want to create a file containing lot of 1 using bash scripting...can anybody provide some tutorial link to that?
[21:09] <clakes> gosh
[21:09] <natschil> celthunder: I only want to dial into the local network, not out of it, so I was thinking I would not need ppp, or do I need it after all_
[21:10] <PeterNL> syst3mw0rm: echo 11111111111111 > somefile
[21:10] <clakes> well, people are having really varying experiences with 11.04 as far as i can see
[21:10] <natschil> celthunder: s/_/?/
[21:10] <PeterNL> syst3mw0rm: echo 11111111111111 >> somefile to append more 1's
[21:10] <iostream> clakes: I'm probably switching to gentoo or something
[21:10] <pim_> Why is there a 'install release' button in the upper left corner of my screen? I already installed ubuntu.
[21:11] <PeterNL> syst3mw0rm: while true; do echo 111111111111111 >> somefile; done; to loop infinitely and add more 1's
[21:11] <clakes> hm... can't say anything about gentoo, never digged that
[21:11] <clakes> my natty's doing a good job
[21:11] <PeterNL> syst3mw0rm: until you press ^C or kill the process
[21:11] <Pici> syst3mw0rm: You may be interested in this if you're just looking for the best way to losslessly compress something; http://www.maximumcompression.com/index.html
[21:11] <iostream> good for you
[21:11] <bluegoon> Hey guys, anyone using Broadcom wireless drivers on their netbook without issues?
[21:12] <clakes> iostream: have you tried fedora by any chance?
[21:12] <iostream> clakes: once, I think
[21:12] <PeterNL> My laptop is connected to a wired network and a wifi network. Both provide dhcp and dns. How do I choose wich DNS server I want to use?
[21:12] <clakes> iostream: fedora 15 looks nice, but well, i've also heard people saying it sucks quite hard
[21:13] <pim_> Why is there a 'install release' button in the upper left corner of my screen? I already installed ubuntu.
[21:13] <Ubulindy> PeterNL click on your network connection icon, click on "edit connections"  you'll see options there
[21:13] <zavo> join #oilproject
[21:14] <PeterNL> Ubulindy: say I wnat to prefer the wifi dns over the wired dns, but use the wired dns when there is no wifi, hoe do I do that?
[21:15] <Ubulindy> PeterNL just disconnect one or the other or edit the connection where I said
[21:15] <pim_> Why is there a 'install release' button in the upper left corner of my screen? I already installed ubuntu. Is it to finalise the installation?
[21:15] <Ubulindy> if you have firestarter installed you will also have to switch back and forth there between wired and wireless
[21:16] <Craig`> celthunder: any ideas?
[21:16] <mjr4189> hello, trying to figure out why my home folder icon on the unity bar isnt working. anyone have this issue?
[21:16] <PeterNL> Ubulindy: but when I have both connected how do I choose wich dns server to use?
[21:16] <bluegoon> I am using an emachines netbook, the fans are going wild if I so much as LOOK at an application.
[21:16] <SolarBoom> how do i apply chmod permission for all the subdirectories of the directory?
[21:16] <Pici> SolarBoom: Use the -r switch. but be careful.
[21:16] <Ubulindy> PeterNL, you can actually place which dns you want to use in the options
[21:16] <proSI> hey guys. I need help for xchat. How do I set channel modes?
[21:16] <Ubulindy> I do it
[21:17] <SolarBoom> Pici:ok thanks
[21:17] <PeterNL> Ubulindy: where? How?
[21:18] <mjr4189> Anyone having any issue with icon on the unity bar not opening?
[21:18] <proSI> I went to xchat online help and was redirected here
[21:18] <Ubulindy> PeterNL connection icon>edit conections<wired ( highlight the connection)>edit>ipv4 settings
[21:18] <proSI> how do I set channel modes?
[21:19] <vpavpa> @ mjr4189 I have regularly issues with icons not working too it's a bit annoying. i have ubuntu natty 11.04
[21:19] <inhumangeek> Hi there. I've been playing with a few things and ended up installing Ubuntu 11.04 three times this week (don't ask - partition errors!). This last install doesn't seem to offer my RAID0 array in the "places" menu - every other installation has had it, and if I boot from the Live CD it's there - any ideas why it's not there in my main install?! Thanks.
[21:19] <Pici> proSI: #xchat would be a better place to ask.
[21:19] <PeterNL> Ubulindy: And then I can enter a static dns server, but I don't want that!
[21:19] <mjr4189> vpavpa: yeah, its been like this for a few days, even after some restarts
[21:19] <Ubulindy> PerterNL once inside you will see tabs, tick and untick the dhcp and manual, and you will dns options
[21:19] <proSI> ty Pici
[21:20] <vpavpa> @ mjr4189 sometimes it works after a few tries or 10-20 seconds sometimes i don't have the patience so i reboot
[21:20] <mjr4189> vpavpa: very annoying, im guessing its just a bug then. unless someone else has any idea.
[21:20] <brown_fern> mjr4189: Yes, try clicking on a nearby area and then hover the cursor back over the area you in fact want to effect. I know it's not ideal but it works for me.
[21:20] <SolarBoom> Pici: how i can enable/disable php modules?
[21:21] <vpavpa> @ mjr4189 after reboot still not working? that's odd. what icon is it exactly? i had it like 10mn ago on the first icon on the top right
[21:21] <Ubulindy> PeterNL then I misunderstood, meaning, you can put any dns there, your isps's or for example opendns
[21:21] <Pici> SolarBoom: Uh.. Modify /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini ?
[21:21] <syst3mw0rm> #hacker
[21:21] <mjr4189> vpavpa: its my home folder
[21:21] <PeterNL> Ubulindy: the only thing I want to set is that when BOTH wifi and wired are connected (with different dhcp servers telling me about different dns servers) to use the one provided by the wireless dhcp server
[21:21] <vpavpa> @ mjr4189 have you tried creating a launcher from the desktop? command is nautilus
[21:22] <Ubulindy> then leave it blank set to auto and let your router handle it
[21:22] <mjr4189> vpavpa: i have run nautilus from terminal and it worked, ill try making a launcher as well
[21:22] <brown_fern> mjr4189: The problem I was addressing is very much like yours but happens to me on the task bar.
[21:23] <vpavpa> @ mjr4189 I think it may be related to the graphics drivers but i'm not sure. do you have a graphic card? embedded?
[21:24] <mjr4189> brown_fern vpavpa: i made a new launcher on the desktop and then dragged it to the unity bar. so for some reason its just accessing the home folder is a problem
[21:24] <mjr4189> vpavpa: and yes i do have embedded graphics and im pretty sure i have it set to use the openGL driver
[21:25] <VCoolio> mjr4189: did you add the path to the command? like 'nautilus $HOME' or 'nautilus /home/username' ?
[21:25] <mjr4189> vcoolio: no, i have the command as nautilus and it works fine from the desktop
[21:25] <mjr4189> vcoolio: it defaults to home
[21:26] <SolarBoom> where stored php extensions?
[21:27] <SolarBoom>  where stored php extensions?
[21:27] <grek> 00:02.0 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
[21:27] <sayz> hi guys
[21:27] <grek> is a VGA controler ?
[21:28] <Rashad> hey
[21:28] <Rashad> I'm in trouble
[21:28] <Rashad> I tried installing gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04
[21:28] <Rashad> but it didn't work that well
[21:29] <grek> in multiseat tutorials i get lspci | grep VGA
[21:29] <VCoolio> mjr4189: I've seen examples in the past where it needed a path in a launcher nevertheless. maybe that's not needed anymore tho
[21:29] <Rashad> it's kind of flickery
[21:29] <vpavpa> mjr4189, i use the ati proprietary driver. i have Radeon HD 4290 embedded. what do you have?
[21:30] <mjr4189> vpavpa: ati radeon xpress 1150
[21:30] <Rashad> what's the easiest way to "revert" ubuntu ?
[21:30] <Rashad> I don't have any data to keep
[21:30] <Rashad> I just installed it today
[21:30] <mjr4189> vpavpa: i cant remember for the life of me where i enabled openGL now
[21:30] <noname120> Love Ubuntu
[21:31] <Rashad> but I'm sure there should be a way to roll back without having to format
[21:31] <vpavpa> mjr4189, it might be the default one no?
[21:31] <noname120> Woa there is many many many users !
[21:31] <Rashad> anyone ?
[21:31] <noname120> Unity is better
[21:31] <denis_> tem21
[21:31] <mjr4189> vpavpa: no i remember enabling it somewhere, haha.
[21:31] <Ubulindy> Rashad I dont think there is, especially if you ditched the old packages during the upgrade
[21:31] <denis_> hi all
[21:32] <Ubulindy> you'll have to re-format
[21:32] <monni-> Hey. I tried looking around on the Ubuntu forums but failed to find a definite answer or fix to my problem. I just burned the Ubuntu 11.04 x64 install iso to a CD, but the installation gets stuck at the *Preparing to install* screen.
[21:32] <noname120> Hi
[21:32] <Rashad> Ubulindy: so now I have to format ?
[21:32] <monni-> I am currently using the very same CDs Live CD function, though.
[21:32] <noname120> one time more...
[21:32] <vpavpa> mjr4189, probably somewhere in the system settings; i couldn't tell you my button is not working anymore haha
[21:32] <noname120> try to burn this
[21:32] <guest_> hi
[21:32] <monni-> Any ideas on what I could do to fix this?
[21:32] <mjr4189> vpavpa: booooo hahaha
[21:32] <guest_> test
[21:32] <Rashad> bye
[21:33] <Rashad> ok thanks
[21:33] <denis_> there is someone from the Ukraine, and Russia?
[21:33] <SubCool> can someone help me with my lexmark all in one printer, i cant find anything anywhere that will make it work.
[21:33] <heller_barde> hi everyone. [ubuntu 10.04 LTS, wifi: intel WiFi Link 5300] My wireless broke with the kernel update from 2.6.32-32-generic-pae to 2.6.32-33-generic-pae because suddenly, it fails to load the firmware. It tries to load firmware with the api v5 but apparently, the file iwlwifi-5000-5.ucode does not contain firmware with the api v5 but, and I quote dmesg: "Driver supports v5, firmware is v0"
[21:33] <guntbert> !ru | denis_
[21:34] <azert> hello there ?
[21:34] <norbex4> hello to everyone
[21:34] <azert> why we can not install two package at same time using the terminal ?
[21:34] <Craig`> hey guys, i'm using this application called iso2opl, basically what it does is convert iso images to files suitable for ps2 homebrew, the problem is that one of it's arguments is a specified drive for output though i'm wanting the current directory for the output
[21:34] <blake> azert: what do you mean?
[21:35] <azert> how to unlock that  ?
[21:35] <ashmew2> azert : u can .. sudo apt-get install p1 p2 p3..
[21:35] <azert> yes but what i mean
[21:35] <azert> during an upgrade
[21:35] <proSI> I have another question regarding Launcher, how do I put it on the bottom of my desktop?
[21:35] <Craig`> this is what i mean, http://pastie.org/2034243
[21:35] <azert> we have to wait
[21:35] <rinkukokiri> uninstall ubuntu one??
[21:35] <Pici> azert: You can run two dpkg instances at the same time.
[21:36] <Pici> azert: er, can't.
[21:36] <azert> so my question how to install package during an update ?
[21:36] <Pici> azert: Is to wait until the update finishes.
[21:36] <blake> azert: you cannot
[21:36] <ashmew2> azert : u mean escape the lock ?
[21:36] <rinkukokiri> azert, wait for the update to finish
[21:36] <Craig`> if i specified ~/foo.iso as the source_iso i'd like the destination to be ~ too, i don't want the output on another drive .. is there some way i can specify the same drive i'm using?
[21:36] <vpavpa> mjr4189, if you launch ccsm then filter "openGL" then you can tick or untick openGL
[21:36] <Pici> azert: If its still in the downloading phase, you can cancel it, but not during the install process.
[21:37] <azert> yes the correct question how to escape the lock ?
[21:37] <proSI> pici vpavpa I have another question regarding Launcher, how do I put it on the bottom of my desktop?
[21:37] <azert> unlock
[21:37] <Pici> proSI: I don't use Unity, sorry :;
[21:37] <ashmew2> Craig`: u can just do a iso2opl ~/whatever/whatever filename.opl
[21:37] <ashmew2> i think
[21:37] <proSI> no prob
[21:37] <guntbert> azert: you cannot, why would you want to do that?
[21:37] <ashmew2> if u just want to save it to the directory from where ur running the command
[21:37] <vpavpa> Pici, what do you mean on the bottom? you can always drag and drop
[21:37] <robin0800> proSI, you can't
[21:38] <guntbert> !u > ashmew2
[21:38] <Pici> vpavpa: Wrong person ;)
[21:38] <azert> enough with your upgrade every 3 hour
[21:38] <vpavpa> Pici,  yes was for Prosi :)
[21:38] <ashmew2> sorry guntbert , get carried away
[21:38] <vpavpa> proSI, what do you mean on the bottom? you can always drag and drop
[21:38] <azert> when i run upgrade i have to wait like an idiot until the task complete
[21:39] <azert> so i want to skip that one
[21:39] <kernco> I'm upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04. I have both kubuntu and ubuntu installed, but I'm in the ubuntu desktop doing the upgrade. It seems to have stopped while installing the upgrades with 4 minutes remaining. The last few lines of the terminal are here: http://pastebin.com/QfjU56JX
[21:39] <azert> time killing
[21:39] <ashmew2> azert : do a sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install p2 p3 p5.. ?
[21:39] <guntbert> azert: how often do you upgrade?
[21:39] <azert> let say 3 hour
[21:39] <proSI> vpavpa, 11.04, i cannot drag n drop
[21:39] <robin0800> vpavpa, you cannot move the launcher if that is what he meant
[21:39] <kernco> I'm not sure what to do from here so that I don't end up with a messed up system
[21:40] <ashmew2> azert , You can just use the && and the -y switch for apt-get to not stay on the computer and let it roll by itself.
[21:40] <proSI> robin0800,
[21:40] <proSI> yes
[21:40] <azert> each time i log on to my server over ssh it say there are package to install
[21:40] <azert> getting tired with that
[21:40] <monni-> Hey. I tried looking around on the Ubuntu forums but failed to find a definite answer or fix to my problem. I just burned the Ubuntu 11.04 x64 install iso to a CD, but the installation gets stuck at the *Preparing to install* screen. I am using the Live CD function of the CD, so the CD does work, at least to some degree. Any ideas on what could be wrong?
[21:40] <azert> so i do
[21:40] <vpavpa> proSI, robin0800 ah the full launcher bar? yeah don't know :)
[21:41] <azert> in case i run sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:41] <guntbert> azert: ah that seems to be a bug in update-motd, just ignore it
[21:41] <proSI> monni- I tried with my flash drive and same thing happened, so I'm just running it inside my windows with virtual drive
[21:41] <Pici> azert: Hey, if you don't want to apply security updates, you don't have to.
[21:41] <azert> first how to do to install other at same time ?
[21:41] <proSI> vpavpa thanks mate
[21:41] <robin0800> vpavpa, you can't move the panel either
[21:41] <monni-> Right proSI. Have you been successful with using previous Ubuntu versions though?
[21:42] <rinkukokiri> ok the mail icon thingy in the top right corner, how to I delete 'ubuntu one' from it after I've uninstalled it?
[21:42] <Pici> azert: You cannot install packages while apt-get is installing updates/upgrades.
[21:42] <vpavpa> robin0800, but you can switch icons
[21:42] <azert> but each time  i log to my server and can see there are package on pending, i m sorry i can't skip that
[21:42] <proSI> monni- this is the first one I'm using. So i'm kinda noob to ubuntu :P
[21:42] <guntbert> azert: you can ignore that message
[21:43] <azert> if there are present that should usefull so i launch the upgrade
[21:43] <rinkukokiri> azert, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:43] <monni-> proSI: ah, okay. Ive used multiple Ubuntu versions before, and they have all worked
[21:43] <rinkukokiri> azert you CANNOT run two installs at the same time
[21:43] <azert> i can't i want my sytem up to date
[21:43] <azert> with zero thing on pending
[21:43] <proSI> ok
[21:43] <rinkukokiri> azert, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:43] <vpavpa> proSI,  robin0800,  i'm pretty it should be somewhere in the configuration though
[21:43] <monni-> But the latest release does not, as I stated. Kind of odd, as my hardware has not really changed during this time.
[21:44] <linuxuz3r> #iphone
[21:44] <rootarindam> Hi, I'm a new ubuntu user and have few questions
[21:44] <OctoByte> linuxuz3r: /join #iphone
[21:44] <guntbert> rinkukokiri: please read the conversation, you suggest to do what he did in the beginning
[21:44] <Pici> azert: You have a few options.  If your upgrade process is still downloading, you can cancel it by pressing ctrl-c and then install your package and then continue the upgrade later. Or wait until the upgrade finishes.
[21:45] <OctoByte> rootarindam: shoot
[21:45] <vpavpa> proSI,  robin0800,  if you launch ccsm then in "ubuntu unity plugin" then reveal mode i think you can put the launcher bar at the bottom
[21:45] <guntbert> !upgrade | Ahoalton
[21:45] <rinkukokiri> ok the mail icon thingy in the top right corner, how to I delete 'ubuntu one' from it after I've uninstalled it?
[21:46] <rinkukokiri> or is it just a matter of restarting?
[21:46] <eros_reis> alguem sabe como abilitar acentos no ubuntu 11
[21:46] <afeijo> damn, I cant install vmware 2 :(
[21:46] <SolarBoom> where php extensions stored?
[21:46] <robin0800> proSI, please report back if you can
[21:47] <azert> my question is simply if i run second install it say something like that : E: Unable to lock / var / lib / dpkg / lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:47] <rootarindam> I downloaded ubuntu  and installed it while working inside xp....now I'm not sure how the partition worked.........I wan't to delete xp
[21:47] <proSI> about the launcher?
[21:47] <azert> why not available ?
[21:47] <vpavpa> proSI,  robin0800, i didn't try cause it's complaining about a conflict :) but I think that the point isn't it?
[21:47] <azert> what not allowing to do multi task ?
[21:47] <rinkukokiri> azert because apt-get locks the installation directory to PREVENT ISSUES
[21:48] <OctoByte> rinkukokiri: if you do: dpkg -l | grep ubuntuone, I get a ubuntuone-control-panel packages, maybe that what you are looking for?
[21:48] <proSI> except that, ubuntu is working flawless for me. :D
[21:48] <guntbert> azert: thats the way it works, you really don't need to run upgrade on a server so often
[21:48] <Ahoalton> I have the Latest Ubuntu CD can I just put it in  and upgrade from 10.04?
[21:48] <Pici> azert: its not designed to allow multiple processes to modify dpkg at the same tme.
[21:49] <rinkukokiri> OctoByte, i get rc  libubuntuone-1.0-1
[21:49] <OctoByte> afeijo: You can use virtualbox?
[21:49] <erkan^> !fonts
[21:49] <Craig`> ashmew2: no i can't do that
[21:49] <OctoByte> rinkukokiri: Means you already uninstalled, try restarting
[21:49] <afeijo> OctoByte, I have a vmware guest from another server that I need to run at this server
[21:49] <ukr_888> I got a weird NFS prob if someone wants to look at..
[21:49] <guntbert> Ahoalton: did you read the links? you can upgrade over the network or with the alternate CD
[21:50] <Craig`> ashmew2: i cannot simply do `iso2opl foo.iso bar dvd` -- so what you said is wrong.
[21:50] <guntbert> afeijo: vbox can work with vmdk too
[21:50] <OctoByte> rootarindam: You want to remove winXP and keep ubuntu? But you installed ubuntu inside winXP?
[21:50] <Craig`> ashmew2: you see, the output is http://pastie.org/2034334
[21:50] <OctoByte> ukr_888: NTFS?
[21:51] <ukr_888> No NFS (Network File System)
[21:51] <afeijo> guntbert, I'll try
[21:51] <ashmew2> Craig` : wheres the output
[21:51] <OctoByte> ukr_888: Oh, whats the problem?
[21:52] <guntbert> afeijo: and vbox support is in #vbox :)
[21:52] <rootarindam> OcoByte: well my knowledge is poor but I thought I did so ......but on the other hand when I'm booting my machine it is giving the option for xp or ubuntu so I'm confused
[21:52] <azert> ok thanks
[21:52] <a_> I am very new to here
[21:52] <afeijo> lol
[21:52] <Craig`> ashmew2: what do you mean where? i showed you the output
[21:52] <ukr_888> OctoByte: I have a Debian 6.0 Server w/ nfs shares and when I mount them under ubuntu they are all the same directories as the first nfs export
[21:52] <a_> how can i use yahoo messenger with webcam
[21:52] <rinkukokiri> yep was just a restart that was needed
[21:52] <moozee3e> hi. is there any English - English Dictionary in ubuntu softwares.. (to work ofline!) also with pronunciation? a very professional one??
[21:53] <proSI> moozee3e google is your friend?
[21:53] <Ahoalton> I didn't get the alternate CD
[21:53] <Ahoalton> just the CD
[21:53] <ukr_888> OctoByte: even though the exports point to different directories and they are mounted on different directories
[21:54] <moozee3e> proSI: actually i'm not online all the time! most of the time i have no internet conneciton!!
[21:54] <guntbert> !alternate | Ahoalton
[21:54] <guntbert> Ahoalton: but the easiest way is over the network
[21:55] <Ahoalton> oh ubottu
[21:55] <juank_prada> where can I find the new features that ubuntu 11.10 will have?
[21:55] <Ahoalton> I am on dial-up. so via network is not feasible
[21:55] <proSI> moozee3e,  http://thanhsiang.org/faqing/node/105
[21:55] <OctoByte> rootarindam: Well, if you installed inside winXP, that is what is supposed to happen. You are now dual booting winXP and ubuntu.
[21:55] <guntbert> Ahoalton: that is a very good reason, but you will still need the alternate CD
[21:56] <Ahoalton> ahh, dammit
[21:56] <Ahoalton> I
[21:56] <Ahoalton> I'll just make a new VM
[21:56] <rootarindam> OctoByte: So is it possible to delete xp and have ubuntu alone?
[21:56] <edwardthefma> sup all
[21:56] <coz_> hry
[21:56] <coz_> hey
[21:56] <guntbert> Ahoalton: good idea :)
[21:57] <Kill-Joy> hey, quick question.. how do I create a file that works like an executable for console commands?
[21:57] <proSI> moozee3e, from Yahoo Answer. Go to System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager. It will have a looong list of available downloads. You can narrow it down by category on the left. I have seen several dictionaries listed there.
[21:57] <ukr_888> Any suggestions? Or places I can look?
[21:57] <moozee3e> proSI: thanks dude. i have to give it a try1
[21:57] <moozee3e> !
[21:58] <proSI> no problem :)
[21:58] <moozee3e> proSI: but the article was written in 2009 ! i dno't know if it works or not! but thankx anyway!
[22:00] <OctoByte> rootarindam: take a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20migrate%20to%20a%20real%20partition,%20and/or%20get%20rid%20of%20Windows%20entirely?
[22:01] <ukr_888> Is it possible for NFS server to miss read the /etc/exports file?
[22:01] <rootarindam> OctoByte: looking now .......thanx
[22:04] <VCoolio> Kill-Joy: make executable (chmod +x file) and place it in a folder belonging to your PATH (check 'echo $PATH')
[22:06] <OctoByte> rootarindam: Do you remember if you used the WUBI installer? I'm pretty sure you did, but just to make sure.
[22:08] <n1xNc0d3> hi, what is the alternative for libgnucrypto-java in Ubuntu Natty?
[22:08] <rootarindam> OctoByte: Honestly, I don't remember...............I went to ubuntu download page, clicked the download button and followed the instrucion
[22:09] <OctoByte> rootarindam: But you were in windows when you installed ubuntu?
[22:09] <rootarindam> OctoByte: yes
[22:09] <OctoByte> rootarindam: I guess you can check in your add/remove programs if you see WUBI anywhere, just to be sure
[22:10] <rootarindam> OctoByte: add/remove in xp?
[22:10] <OctoByte> rootarindam: yep
[22:11] <erix> Hi all
[22:11] <rootarindam> OctoByte: yes I'll check.....but is it possible without Wubi?
[22:11] <vbgunz> I keep getting a dbus-daemon error in my auth log. I believe it may have something to do with making my hibernation very unreliable. anybody know how this may be affecting my hibernation?
[22:11] <Kenty22> Help! When I login, the screen blinks black, and drops me out back to the login section. Ubuntu 10.04
[22:12] <ukr_888> Kenty22: U mess with Xorg or graphics?
[22:12] <vpavpa> Anyone use ultraedit? Cause I have issues with opening files: it opens only one file then it won't open files externally (like double-click or open with). I can only open from the menu and uex file browser. PS: I'm using ubuntu 11.04 and I have "allow multiple instances" deactivated
[22:12] <erix> I want to ban an ipaddress for my particular virtualhost.  I configure jail.conf file to enable it. Do I need to do some configuration in that virtualhost?
[22:12] <Scunizi> How do you export Evolution's contacts to a file other than vcard?  I need a format that I can open with a spreadsheet
[22:13] <Kenty22> ukr_888: no I did not touch it at all, I just restarded the PC, thinking about it though, before this started hapenning, on one of the loads, it said that the xorg failed to initialise and prompted me to restart it
[22:13] <Kenty22> which I did, and then it hanged, I had to hard-restart and this started hapenning
[22:13] <OctoByte> rootarindam: Well, you can only install from inside windows using wubi AFAIK, but I was just asking just to make sure. I'm positive that you used wubi to install but you can never be too sure. If you check your add/remove programs in XP you should se "Ubuntu" listed. That's how you know you used wubi.
[22:13] <rootarindam> OctoByte: also few days ago when I opened xp after 1.5 months I observed it has become extremely slow........ubuntu runs fast though
[22:14] <ukr_888> Kenty22: What kind of video card you have? Using any third party drivers?
[22:14] <Jeremy3D> anyone know of a video program (like vlc) that will let me skip frame by frame with a press of a button?
[22:14] <iLLf8d> greetings all, I'm trying to keep my computer from shutting down, suspending or blanking the screen when I close my laptops lid. Apparently theres no option to ignore the lid close. I'd like to use an external display with the lid shut anyone know which settings I need to change to do this?
[22:14] <rootarindam> OctoByte: yes I saw ubuntu in add/remove
[22:14] <Kenty22> ukr_888:  nvidia drivers, proprietary ones, recommended for distro, didnt install anything before the reload though, so it shouldnt be me installing something new
[22:15] <OctoByte> rootarindam: Okay, you're good to go. Just the read through that site I sent you.
[22:16] <robbyrob_> sweet Xchat knew what I needed :P
[22:16] <SalahGo> Hi, how do we add a program to the startup list (without GUI, i'm on a server through SSH)
[22:16] <ukr_888> Kenty22: Press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login with your username. We need to make sure its not ur profile thats borked
[22:16] <Milos_SD> Hi... I have one problem with compiz and Unity... I have Nvidia 7600GT 256MB VRAM graphic card, and 1920x1080 rezolution display... And my graphic card is constantly getting out of memory. Firefox goes black and starts using 100% cpu, tvtime doesn't start becouse there is no memory left to allocate for off-screen...
[22:16] <Milos_SD> is there a way to fix that?
[22:16] <norbex4> Hello
[22:16] <norbex4> to everyone
[22:16] <norbex4> in this chat
[22:17] <robbyrob_> I need help with SLi running 2 monitors on SLi in Ubuntu 11.04.
[22:17] <SalahGo> Way to add a program to startup? (no GUI, Server through SSH)
[22:17] <OctoByte> norbex4: Hello to everyone in this chat <- easier read
[22:17] <BluesKaj> Milos_SD, did you install the recommended nvidia driver?
[22:17] <Kenty22> ukr_888:  interesting, when i
[22:17] <ukr_888> /etc/init.d/script
[22:17] <rootarindam> OctoByte: also few days ago when I opened xp after 1.5 months I observed it has become extremely slow........ubuntu runs fast though
[22:17] <norbex4> Anyone is this chat can answer me. How i can make my own private ubuntu cloud?
[22:17] <SalahGo> ukr_888, we add the path to this program?
[22:18] <Kenty22>  ukr_888  pressed the combo, it gave me a list of some text, without me being able to login, but lsast line says "Failed to initialise GLX extension (Compatible Nvidia X driver not found)
[22:18] <BluesKaj> nor  install ubuntu server for starters
[22:18] <Jeremy3D> anyone know an answer? video program like vlc that will allow me to skip frame by frame with a button (not just slow mo)
[22:18] <BluesKaj> norbex4, ^
[22:18] <OctoByte> rootarindam: VIRUSES!!! lol, I'm not sure why your XP is slow but it shouldn't be caused by ubuntu, I think...
[22:19] <ukr_888> Kenty22: Ok it means that the video driver is not loading properly. Try F2 with the same combo and see if you can login there
[22:19] <brown_fern> iLLf8d: I have a really old laptop that seems to behave like your system, I haven't found the work-around. I have to end up pulling the battery in order make it run after it behaves like this.
[22:19] <Milos_SD> BluesKaj, I installed drivers from nvidia web site :) But this started happening when I switched from 1280x1024 monitor (17") to this one 1920x1080 (23").
[22:19] <norbex4> blueskaj can you recommend me a tutorial or mannual that you know
[22:19] <robbyrob_> Anyone know how to enable 2 monitors while running SLi? I googled the hell out of it but could not find anything that has got this to work so far.
[22:19] <rootarindam> OctoByte: thanx a lot for your help!
[22:19] <prower> hello :> a run of debsecan in natty indicates that it's vulnerable to a number of remotely exploitable bugs...a number of them are in both the icedtea/openjdk as well as sun's own jdk and plugin...are the packages for these very often updated?
[22:19] <iLLf8d> brown_fern I just found a thread with a possible solution tho I havent tried it yet
[22:19] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu-server | norbex4
[22:20] <iLLf8d> if it works I'll giveya a shout
[22:20] <norbex4> Thank you!
[22:20] <norbex4> for the help
[22:20] <norbex4> thank you blueskaj
[22:20] <bcj> Does anyone know about the update rolled out yesterday that screwed up my wireless?
[22:20] <brown_fern> iLLf8d: What is the URL (web address) on that fix?
[22:21] <bcj> Is this a known issue and is there a work-around?
[22:21] <SalahGo> There was program that could manage the startup programs through terminal, anyone knows its name?
[22:21] <ukr_888> you can google for adding a script to the startup. You can create your script in /etc/init.d/ directory and chmod +x the file
[22:21] <ukr_888> then you can run update-rc.d  <scriptname> I believe
[22:21] <Kenty22> ukr_888: got it, I logged in
[22:21] <notNicolas> Hey. My notebook running 10.04 freezes when I unplug the power. Is this alarming?
[22:21] <rinkukokiri> bcj, it would help if we knew your hardware (what make/model wifi card)
[22:21] <SalahGo> ukr_888, i see, thx! ^^
[22:21] <BluesKaj> Milos_SD, the recommended driver for ubuntu is NOT on the nvidia site , some if those drivers won't work , open sustem admin/additional drivers and install the recommended driver
[22:22] <bcj> rinkukokiri: If it was a widespread thing, then you might have known about it anyway.
[22:22] <bcj> I'll try and find out when my chipset is
[22:22] <robbyrob_> Can someone at least point me to a support forum where someone might be able to help me get 2 monitors running with SLi enabled?
[22:23] <Milos_SD> BluesKaj, Like I told you, it started doing that when I switched to bigger resolution. Drivers are working good. Is there a way to alocate system RAM to graphics card?
[22:23] <Milos_SD> that RAM I have a lot (8GB)
[22:23] <notNicolas> Is it possible that broken drivers are overcharging and wrecking my battery pack o_O
[22:23] <Kenty22> ukr_888:  I logged in on F2 window,  shall I do what you said earlier about scripts? or was that for someone else?
[22:23] <ukr_888> Kenty22: when you can manage to login or ssh into your machine do a sudo su so you will be permanent  root for the session and type nvidia-update
[22:23] <bcj> It's "Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless WiFi Link 5100"
[22:24] <Kenty22> ukr_888: command  not found
[22:24] <OctoByte> Milos_SD: maybe you should turn down the resolution
[22:24] <ukr_888> Kenty22: you may be able to update your nvidia driver using the nvidia-update command
[22:24] <Craig`> hey guys, i'm wanting to resize my main partition (/dev/sdc1) so that i have 50GiB free space (and then later allocate that to a new partition), am i doing everything correctly so far? http://pastie.org/2034527 .. i was following this guide, http://gotmarko.com/article/61/shrinking-a-partition-in-linux -- i just don't want to make any silly mistakes
[22:24] <Kenty22> ukr_888:  there is no such  command available
[22:25] <brown_fern> iLLf8d: Thank you in advance, I'll be away from my keyboard for awhile. I'm glad that you found what you were looking for!
[22:25] <losty> not sure, but has anyone come across an issue with gwibber, whereby, you can't scroll using the arrow keys? (on 11.04)
[22:25] <Milos_SD> OctoByte, that is not the solution :) I don't want to use non-native resolution...
[22:25] <Kenty22> ukr_888:  only bug-report detector settings smi and xconfig
[22:25] <OctoByte> Craig': Do you have anything on that partition? OS, data? You really should back up before shrinking.
[22:25] <ukr_888> Kenty22: ok let me see what I can dig up
[22:26] <EmuAlert> Is there any way to set multiple key combinations to the same shortcut?
[22:26] <Craig`> OctoByte: yes it's my main partition
[22:26] <Kenty22> ukr_888:  thank you
[22:26] <BluesKaj> Milos_SD, if they're using all the ram on the card then they're not working properly, I have the same card and there'no where tnear that much memory being used
[22:26] <Craig`> where can i back it up though? it's got around 1.5TiB worth of data
[22:26] <BluesKaj> bbl
[22:27] <OctoByte> Milos_SD: Looks like your gfx card can't handle it though...
[22:27] <Craig`> OctoByte: you see i'm using this program and it one of the arguments has to be the drive you want the output to be stored at, i was hoping i can just direct the output to where i execute the command but no said i could.
[22:27] <ashmew2> Craig` : for the current directory , use the ./
[22:27] <Craig`> ashmew2: yes i know that, i've told you that does not work.
[22:27] <Craig`> I know how you specify that, i was telling you that it wants a drive, it verifies it's arguments
[22:28] <ukr_888> Kenty22: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:28] <OctoByte> Milos_SD: Ohhhh, never mind, forget what i said
[22:28] <ashmew2> hmm ok
[22:28] <Kenty22> ukr_888: 10.04 LTS
[22:29] <Craig`> OctoByte: http://pastie.org/2034553 -- you see the second argument requires a drive, i didn't really want to specify a drive (as i don't want it on a different drive etc), do you have any idea how i could do this?
[22:29] <bcj> How do I find a changelog for the updates that were made yesterday on my machine?
[22:30] <ukr_888> Kenty22: run dmesg |grep X
[22:30] <Kenty22> ukr_888: a lot of stuff, what am I looking for?
[22:31] <notNicolas> Running ubuntu without having all your drivers set up is treading in hollowed grounds.
[22:31] <Kenty22> NVRM : loading Nvidia Unix X86 kernel module 270.29
[22:31] <ukr_888> Kenty22: any other errors involving a driver or nvidia: its a kernel boot log
[22:32] <Kenty22> ukr_888: nope, no errors whatsoever
[22:32] <Kenty22> ukr_888:  there is a line about loading Nvidia driver, and thats about it, no errors though
[22:32] <bcj> How do I revert from an automatic update that occurred yesterday and/or find a changelog from the update?
[22:33] <intrin> hello
[22:33] <intrin> http://www.codeslum.org/paste/index.php?id=87
[22:33] <intrin> any ideas to whats upwith this?,
[22:33] <intrin> locate isnt returning a folder that is there
[22:34] <Kenty22> ukr_888:  I restarted ubuntu though btw, to go into Ctrl Alt F2, and I did not try to login when it drops me back out, i.e. I am not sure if there will be that same error that I got in F1 mode in the first time
[22:34] <mfpockets> Hi, I may not be in the right place but I figure ill give it a shot.
[22:35] <mfpockets> in ubuntu iwconfig shows 130mb connect.
[22:35] <ukr_888> Kenty22: I believe Ctrl+Alt+F7 will pop you back into the GUI login or tty7 in short
[22:35] <mfpockets> but if I log on to my router (ddwrt) rate shows fluctuations between 52-108 which one is correct?
[22:35] <cillin> just reinstalled 11.04 desktop and installed firestarter, but it complains syslog isnt running, isnt it supposed to be by default?
[22:36] <ukr_888> Kenty22: read up on this... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[22:37] <intrin> anyone? :X
[22:37] <nerdy_kid> I would like to have apt.ubuntu.com redirect to apt.marcoceppi.com, I think I just have to add a line to /etc/hosts?
[22:38] <HelloWorldofTomo> I am looking for help fixing my laptop's sleep ability.  when i close the display and try to sleep it, it goes to sleep.  when i try to power it back on by pushing a key, it restarts.  i have an ASUS laptop if it helps.
[22:38] <Kenty22> ukr_888: well, that did not add any errors to the comand you gave me, but in F7 now there is an end line as "* Starting timidity++ ALSA midi emulator,  newline   ome directory /etc/timidity not ours."
[22:38] <Kenty22> ukr_888:  ome iis not a type, its written as ome
[22:39] <mikeos> anybody on Oneiric + KDE 4 having network management plasmoid issues?  = no wireless network
[22:39] <mfpockets> In DD-WRT the wireless rate shows fluctuations between 52mbit and 108 yet my wireless interface on my ubuntu machine shows 130mbit steady which one is correcT?
[22:40] <ukr_888> 	
[22:40] <ukr_888> Kenty22: hmm any recent updates you do on your system?
[22:40] <speakman> When and how is the RTC set really?
[22:40] <speakman> at intervals?
[22:41] <Kenty22> ukr_888: none at all... I think I only deleted WINE this morning, but since then I restarted the system about 6 times, and it booted up perfectly fine
[22:41] <Kenty22> ukr_888:  I had to switch between windows/ubuntu quite a bit
[22:42] <HelloWorldofTomo> windows?  they still make that?
[22:42] <ukr_888> you can try to update your system
[22:42] <rickabillie> hi, what is the lobon and pw for ubuntu 11.4 live session?
[22:43] <ukr_888> Kenty22: you can try and update you mite get an upgraded kernel
[22:43] <Kenty22> ukr_888: did so through recovery before asking here... no difference
[22:44] <zelozelos> what was that program to use to set my windows partition to automatically mount at startup?
[22:44] <KM0201> rickabillie: it should auto log you in
[22:44] <sdf_scp> hello
[22:44] <HelloWorldofTomo> ukr_888: i am trying that thank you
[22:45] <ukr_888> HelloWorldofTomo: hope it works
[22:45] <HelloWorldofTomo> ukr_888: thank you heil hitler
[22:45] <ResQue> exit
[22:45] <HelloWorldofTomo> i mean
[22:45] <ResQue> exit
[22:45] <rickabillie> KM8201: it took 4ever to boot and when I came back II have a login screen
[22:46] <KM0201> rickabillie: then you have some other issue, live cd's don't require a username and/or password
[22:46] <cillin> anyone? syslog in 11.04? isnt it supposed to be running by default?
[22:47] <sdf_scp> i'm a new ubuntu user, and i have a problem with the program winscp. i can't rewrite a file oder copy a new file onto the ubuntu desktop. what should i do? i login with the admin account (and yes, in the ubuntu he's in the admin-group.
[22:47] <zelozelos> rickabillie: i saw that once when i logged out of a live cd once, when i rebooted it wanted a password/user. rebooted again but shutdown the sys them rebooted and it fixed it
[22:47] <rickabillie> I've noticed that they do of you say, load the prop vid drivers, then want to log out and log back in
[22:47] <KM0201> sdf_scp: are you using sudo?
[22:47] <HelloWorldofTomo> sdf_scp: try #winscp
[22:48] <sdf_scp> @KM0201 i try it from my pc to the ubuntu desktop, i can not do sudo (windows)
[22:48] <zelozelos> rickabillie: thats when i discovered you can deselect the option to ask at login for a password under the users/groups
[22:49] <intrin>  any ideas to why locate wont display folder that i know is there? after running updatedb?
[22:49] <notNicolas> Hey guys. I set up a dedicated ubuntu box with both 10.04 and 11.04 on it
[22:50] <rickabillie> zelozelos: thanks, that will be handy next time i'm logged in.
[22:51] <zelozelos> what is the name of the program that lets me set up a disk to automount at startup?
[22:52] <notNicolas> it's being a huge piece ocf crap
[22:52] <julie101010> zelozelos: you can format your partition and add it in fstab
[22:52] <notNicolas> when I boot up the machine, the option for starting 10.04 appears twice
[22:53] <notNicolas> when I turn on 10.04, it has some problems then turns itself on in the command line
[22:53] <zelozelos> julie101010: yup aware of the hard way rofl. but im prone to messin up stuff like that i would prefer a gui
[22:53] <notNicolas> then if I wait for the monitor to go to sleep and I wake it up, it wakes up in the GUI mode
[22:53] <notNicolas> what the hell is going on
[22:53] <notNicolas> this thing has a mind of its own
[22:54] <julie101010> notNicolas, look at your logs
[22:54] <julie101010> dmesg could also help
[22:54] <brandon_> thst doesnt sound like fun sounds like the makings of a bad day
[22:54] <notNicolas> On the positive side, I fixed that it was freezing when I unplugged the power. I just had to update ATI drivers.
[22:54] <nerdy_kid> I would like to have apt.ubuntu.com redirect to apt.marcoceppi.com, I think I just have to add a line to /etc/hosts?
[22:54] <sbarcteam> hi guys.
[22:55] <notNicolas> julie101010, is it normal that different OSes show up more than once in the list of OSes to boot when one starts up the computer?
[22:55] <julie101010> zelozelos, it is not risky to add a partition to the fstab unless you really screw up bad
[22:55] <notNicolas> In the list I have like
[22:55] <sbarcteam> Is it a bad practice to install a system over a RAID based partition ?
[22:55] <notNicolas> linux (version of ubuntu 10.04)
[22:55] <julie101010> notNicolas, it does the same on my system
[22:55] <notNicolas> well, are they both the same?
[22:55] <notNicolas> does it matter which one I choose?
[22:55] <Pici> nerdy_kid: If you're trying to use a different apt mirror, the preferred way would be to modify /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:55] <julie101010> sbarcteam, it doesn't matter as long as it works :)
[22:56] <notNicolas> hoho
[22:56] <sbarcteam> julie101010, I am talking about good practice vs. bad one.
[22:56] <julie101010> notNicolas, the default option is usually fine
[22:56] <julie101010> it doesn't matter
[22:56] <notNicolas> Is it possible to easily rename them?
[22:56] <notNicolas> that way I can call one "Work" and "Home" or something
[22:56] <Kenty22> Well... still there. Please someone help. When I login to ubuntu 10.04, it blinks black screen, and pops me back to the login screen
[22:57] <sbarcteam> julie101010, my idea is it would be bad to put stuff like swap, and other stuff on a RAID. but I'm open to hear arguments against my point of view.
[22:57] <sbarcteam> I mean it would be bad in case of disk failure, etc.
[22:57] <notNicolas> Kenty22, have you tried in text only mode? Maybe you will get a useful error message.
[22:57] <julie101010> it is indeed pointless to install a swap partition on raid as swap partitions are already treated like raid 0
[22:58] <zelozelos> they should add an option in the properties of a drive to check that will automount if presant or whatever
[22:58] <Kenty22> notNicolas:  I tried in tty2 and yeah I can login, but there are no error messages.
[22:58] <sbarcteam> julie101010, what do you mean "treated like raid 0" ?!
[22:58] <julie101010> the system automatically fragments swap access across available partitions
[22:58] <notNicolas> Kenty22: Okay well, if google doesn't find your answer I'm too noob to help you any further, lol.
[22:59] <notNicolas> Maybe you can try switching the theme of it
[22:59] <ysis> Hi, how can I check which upstart services are currently running and which are set up to start at boot?
[22:59] <notNicolas> or other random options that appear at the bottom of the screen when you choose which user you want to login as
[22:59] <julie101010> sbarcteam, and for corruption risks, they are lesser if you use RAID 2/5/10
[22:59] <sbarcteam> julie101010, if you spread swap into several partitions you mean.
[23:00] <julie101010> on different disks
[23:00] <sbarcteam> (naturally)
[23:00] <julie101010> yes
[23:00] <zelozelos> Kenty22: try this, google on adding a user via command line, add a user then log into that user. if it works all you need to do is log into the orig user (one thats not) and delete its settings
[23:00] <sbarcteam> julie101010, so partitioning the RAID targetted disks into 2 pieces, say swap and the rest, is not a good idea ?
[23:01] <julie101010> it would be fine sbarcteam
[23:01] <sbarcteam> (I mean swap as simple partition, and the rest as food for the RAID)
[23:01] <Kenty22> zelozelos:  I have 4 users on the system, 2 of which I never used before, all of them end up having the same symptoms
[23:01] <zelozelos> Kenty22: ahh
[23:01] <julie101010> but there's one thing though sbarcteam...
[23:01] <sbarcteam> it would be more complicated to replace that hard disk.
[23:01] <sbarcteam> in case of failure.
[23:02] <julie101010> sbarcteam, if you use one partition for swap on a disk that's part of an array, then it will reduce the overall performance if swap is used a lot
[23:02] <sbarcteam> swap off, remove from raid, add new disk, repartition, swapon, add to raid....
[23:02] <julie101010> but no problem with failure
[23:02] <sbarcteam> ok...
[23:03] <julie101010> I think you should probably leave your swap on raid as you're currently set-up
[23:03] <nerdshell> how can I permanently change the name of my machine (host), I tried looking on the net? configured /etc/hostname, but it didn't work.
[23:03] <julie101010> at least it balances disk access
[23:03] <Magnusson> can someone help me with a boot problem? whenever i start my computer, it gives me "input signal out of range, please adjust to 1680x1050 @60hz" and constantly tries to autoadjust itself. i've noticed this is only when the computer first starts, or when booting to linux
[23:03] <zelozelos> Kenty22: do you have stuff on that partition/system that you need 2 save, if so, login to live cd, access the drive, back them up, reinstall is the only thing i can suggest
[23:03] <sbarcteam> what kind of characteristic load does version control server impose ? I'm guessing lots of writes, some reads, and memory utilization for indexing, etc....
[23:04] <julie101010> nerdshell, the command is hostname
[23:04] <Pici> !hostname | nerdshell
[23:04] <sbarcteam> nerdshell, don't forget to update your /etc/hosts file
[23:04] <zelozelos> Kenty22: just in case you didnt know- live cd dosent save anything, youll have 2 put them on some other drive, partition, or media
[23:05] <nerdshell> julie101010: the hostname command changes the hostname for the active session, if you reboot, the hostname will be changed again.
[23:05] <Kenty22> zelozelos:  I would prefer a different solution that a complete re-instal, thanks :)
[23:05] <julie101010> adding it to the hosts file as others have said will do that too
[23:05] <evilsushi> is there an update-rc.d show to show all links?
[23:05] <evilsushi> something of that nature.
[23:06] <nerdshell> sbarcteam: how do I update it ?
[23:06] <zelozelos> Kenty22: ok, the best place to start is by going back in time and remembering what you changed b4 it started doing this, then try and undo those changes via command prompt
[23:08] <nerdshell> Some help with editing /etc/hosts please ?
[23:08] <SolarBoom> i'm experiencing such a problem that i wanna install pdp for php i have installed php-pear when i try sudo pecl install pdo it gives me error "phpize not found"
[23:08] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: press alt+F2   then gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[23:08] <SolarBoom> *wanna install pdo
[23:09] <nerdshell> bastidrazor: yes,but what is the line to add to set a new host ?
[23:10] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: the line that contains your previous hostname. add your new hostname at the end of that line.
[23:10] <sbarcteam> nerdshell, a NEW line, according to man hosts
[23:10] <SolarBoom> i'm experiencing such a problem that i wanna install pdo for php i have installed php-pear when i try sudo pecl install pdo it gives me error "phpize not found"
[23:13] <cillin> can someone please tell me why Firestarter complains about syslog not running? 11.04 desktop clean install
[23:15] <SalahGo> in update-rc -f <scriptname>, how can we make the script run after all the programs in startup?
[23:18] <EastDallas> I'm trying to install an older version of the JRE, and found a great walkthrough, but when I get to this command there is no libnpjp2.so file in the amd64 folder....is there an older version of the file with a different name that I"m looking for?
[23:18] <EastDallas> /opt/java/64$ ln -s /opt/java/64/jre1.6.0_03/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[23:18] <fr00g> Currently my boot time is 45 seconds, can somebody take a look at my bootchart (http://ubuntuone.com/p/xyr/) and give me some tips to cut that time down?
[23:19] <ecnabilw1rk> Hi there, I have an EC2 instance running Ubuntu and I'm trying to get OpenVPN working. The online instructions asks me to edit the network interfaces and restart them. Won't this cut my ssh connection and if I do make a mistake in the interfaces file will I loose the ability to ssh back into my instance?
[23:19] <linxeh> EastDallas: are you on 64bit or 32bit ?
[23:20] <ecnabilw1rk> Hi there, I have an EC2 instance running Ubuntu and I'm trying to get OpenVPN working. The online instructions asks me to edit the network interfaces and restart them. Won't this cut my ssh connection and if I do make a mistake in the interfaces file will I loose the ability to ssh back into my instance?
[23:20] <ecnabilw1rk> exit
[23:21] <EastDallas> linxeh: 64bit
[23:21] <meisth0th> hello
[23:22] <meisth0th> i've installed openarena but i can't change weapon with mousewheel or number buttons
[23:22] <meisth0th> is this a bug or something?
[23:22] <EastDallas> linxeh: I need to install 1.6u3 to support Cisco SDM.
[23:23] <soultekkie> any software like "Norton Ghost" thats runs on Ubuntu (not bootcd like clonezilla but on ubuntu like gparted does)
[23:23] <soultekkie> man my english sucks today
[23:23] <linxeh> EastDallas: old versions of 64bit java for linux had no java plugin, that might be why you are struggling
[23:24] <linxeh> EastDallas: I guess you might need to install a 32bit version, and 32bit browsers or whatever else you need
[23:24] <g3nm0d> I have a WY-50+ connected to a server running 11.04 which mostly works, except things like 'reset' and 'clear' give unexpected results.  When I set TERM=wy50, I get 'unknown terminal type wy50' from reset and others
[23:24] <EastDallas> linxeh: OK...thanks
[23:25] <linxeh> EastDallas: I might be wrong though - I'm a java developer, but I've not done that much with linux over the last 2-3 years
[23:26] <linxeh> EastDallas: at one point people installed 32bit browsers, java, flash etc to get decent web compatibility - maybe that route is still an option
[23:26] <linxeh> EastDallas: failing that, a 32bit VM?
[23:30] <soultekkie> i just want a software solution that allows me to backup (image/clone) and entire HDD under Ubuntu, much like "Norton Ghost" does full disk backup under windows
[23:31] <EmuAlert> Where does xmodmap store its preferences? I don't have a ~/.Xmodmap file
[23:32] <Rave1> soultekkie,    remastersys
[23:32] <brown_fern> soultekkie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_cloning#See_also
[23:33] <Rave1> soultekkie,  not HDD clone but will give you a CD of your system
[23:33] <zth> hello! i installed xfce on my 11.04 ubuntu, but it cannot decrypt my homefolder? how do i solve this? i want to use xfce but do not wanna make a fresh xubuinstall
[23:35] <Haraken> in order to get raid1 support using ubuntu 11.04 I must install with the server version, is there a quick and easy way to install the desktop packages after the install? maybe like apt-get install gnome-desktop or something?
[23:35] <EastDallas> Haraken: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:36] <Haraken> EastDallas, easy enough thanks :)
[23:36] <soultekkie> any software solution that allows me to backup (image/clone) an entire HDD under Ubuntu, much like "Norton Ghost" does full disk backup under windows?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> soultekkie: partimage
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> soultekkie: use it in a liveCD
[23:37] <soultekkie> humm... not what i'm looking for actually...
[23:37] <EagleScreen> soultekkie: I am trying to remember the name of one..
[23:37] <Haraken> soultekkie, I use clonezilla which can be installed on a usb
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> soultekkie: why, it takes an image of the partition and compresses it too.
[23:38] <Haraken> soultekkie, or if I just want a quick job I use rsync
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> soultekkie: why is it not exactly what you need? What is different?
[23:38] <soultekkie> i know.... its not for "my" hard drives.... i'll use it to backup my customers disks
[23:39] <soultekkie> like "plug in SATA" - back it up - "plug out SATA"
[23:39] <EagleScreen> soultekkie: have you seen fsarchiver? --> http://www.fsarchiver.org/Main_Page
[23:39] <brown_fern> soultekkie: Did you follow the URL that I listed? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_cloning#See_also       Perhaps that wasn't helpful.
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> soultekkie: well you cannot image a drive which is in use as the data is in use
[23:39] <soultekkie> will check it out
[23:40] <Haraken> soultekkie, I would definitely use rsync for jobs like that
[23:40] <soultekkie> will check rsync as well
[23:40] <EagleScreen> I'd use tar and gzip :D
[23:40] <EagleScreen> oh and cp
[23:43]  * atxq is having issues install 11.04
[23:43] <atxq> anyone else with this problem?
[23:44] <atxq> this morning I downloaded 11.04 and burned it to cd, only to have issues after the install.
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> atxq: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[23:45] <atxq> I got a error message about how the disc or dvdreader could be broken; only then when install 10.10 again, worked fine
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> atxq: did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?
[23:45] <atxq> the cd live booted peoperly; then when I installed it everything was fine
[23:46] <atxq> after restart, black screen
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> atxq: did you test the ISO?
[23:46] <atxq> even upgrade I get an error
[23:46] <meisth0th> i think it's display driver issue
[23:46] <atxq> the iso was working fine; the issue was installing it
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> atxq: yes there may be bit errors in the image, last time now: did you test the ISO?
[23:46] <jfe> hi all. any idea how i can mount my android phone to the latest ubuntu?
[23:46] <atxq> no one else with this issue?
[23:47] <jfe> i thought it might auto-mount but apparently not..
[23:47] <fightling> I'm, having problems with empathy on naughty when connecting to jabber it shows a "network error" - any help?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> atxq: if you won't respond, why should we help you? I have asked several times but you kept yammering on, so it's pointless helping you as you simply WON'T reply
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> jfe: on the phone you need to tell the phone to mount, it will then be accessible
[23:48] <atxq> the iso booted fine; I did not test the md5, but even upgrading causes errors
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> atxq: you still haven't answered the question...
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> atxq: did you MD5 test the iSO?
[23:48] <zth> hello! i installed xfce on my 11.04 ubuntu, but it cannot decrypt my homefolder? how do i solve this? i want to use xfce but do not wanna make a fresh xubuinstall
[23:48] <atxq> no
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> atxq: then how did you know the image was complete or consistent
[23:49] <nm5tf> AP: had a similar prob as atxq because I burned the CD at hi speed--redid it a slowest speed & it worked fine--sounds like he didn't test the ISO tho
[23:49] <atxq> because I did a live boot and it worked fine
[23:49] <atxq> I have never had issues before with any of the past releases
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> atxq: that is moot, there could be bit errors in packages used to install the OS but the data to get the live environment running could be fine
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> atxq: the live CD booting is NOT a test to see if ALL the data is good
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> atxq: get the image MD5 tested and then if it is tested as good, we can continue
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[23:50] <atxq> it was enough for me at the time; listen, so I cannot upgrade either without getting an error message
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> atxq: yes because the data may have issues
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> atxq: but you haven't tested it, so we currently don't know
[23:51] <atxq> I can download it again and test it, but at this point not sure it might help much
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> jfe: did you tell your phone to mount the file system so that it is accessible?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> atxq: you don't need to, you just need to test it
[23:51] <atxq> was mostly just wondering if anyone had this issue too or not
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> atxq: you could statistically download an infinite amount of files and never get a good one, simply redownloading does nothing
[23:52] <atxq> so I can md5 test on the cd?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> atxq: its a known issie but until we know the data you are using is good, any efforts will be for nought
[23:53] <atxq> so can I run the test on the disc, or do I need an iso?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> atxq: you can boot to the CD, when you see the keyboard and stickman screen, press SPACE and select "Check CD for defects"
[23:53] <atxq> even easier
[23:54] <atxq> so there have been similiar issues then from other users?
[23:55] <atxq> I will check the disc later; running a clean 10.10; thanks for the help
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> atxq: yes, what video chip do you use?
[23:56] <brown_fern> atxq: I have not heard of anyone with that particular problem but that mean little, as I am not well informed. :)
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> atxq: intel? nvidia? ati?
[23:57] <atxq> oh, sorry...intel
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> atxq: add the boot option:  nomodeset       may help
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> atxq: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[23:59] <atxq> where would I add that?
[23:59] <atxq> never actually used that option