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debfxEagleScreen: the relevant file is /usr/share/kde4/apps/solid/actions/gwenview_importer.desktop00:02
debfxmaybe the problem is that there are two groups in that file00:02
EagleScreenI dont uderstand what you mean00:04
EagleScreenany file is translated I think00:05
EagleScreenadding the tipical line: Name[es]=Abrir con el Gestor de Archivos; makes it translated00:14
EagleScreenthis files are provided by kdebase-workspace (source)00:16
debfxEagleScreen: yes, but we strip those and look up the translations with X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain00:23
debfxbottom line is that we need to patch either the device notifier applet or something in kde4libs00:23
EagleScreenoh00:24
ScottKshadeslayer: It's the last thing we're waiting to merge from Debian and it's blocking 4.6.0 packaging ....00:25
transitloggerScottK: does ffmpegthumbs work with that patch?00:30
transitloggerlike at runtime00:31
transitloggeralso, did you try contacting the maintainer?00:31
ScottKNo idea.00:31
ScottKNo.  Just asked our libav maintainer how to fix it.00:31
ScottKThat was his recommendation.00:31
ScottKIf it doesn't work, it's not because of that patch.00:31
transitloggerwell, yeah, just saying, there is little point in making stuff build if it does not work00:32
transitloggerScottK: if you have a minute, it would be cool if you could try it00:32
ScottKIt's just a function rename in libav.00:33
* ScottK isn't running oneiric, so can't test it soon.00:33
ScottKAnyone got an oneiric install they can see if ffmpegthumbs works in?00:34
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yofelmorning06:40
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debfxapachelogger: pkg-kde-tools currently adds the X-Ubuntu-Gettext... key to the end of desktop files, but it should put it into the [Desktop Entry] group10:08
debfxor am I wrong?10:08
apacheloggerdebfx: what else would be in there?10:19
apacheloggeri.e. in what case would EOF != partOf(DesktopEntry)10:20
debfxapachelogger: solid actions10:20
apacheloggerwhere may they be found?10:20
debfxe.g. /usr/share/kde4/apps/solid/actions/gwenview_importer.desktop10:21
apacheloggerdebfx: yeah10:21
apacheloggervery wrong10:21
apachelogger<3 l10n architecture10:21
debfxalso I noticed that the translations in .notifyrc files aren't stripped10:23
apacheloggerdebfx: they are not .desktop files :P10:24
apacheloggerby the definition of the mangler anyway10:24
apacheloggeractually, I was thinking about poking upstream to adopt a new l10n system similar to what we do10:25
apacheloggerloading the l10n from mo files makes sense in terms of up-to-dateness10:25
debfxapachelogger: yeah, but which part does the mangling?10:25
apacheloggerlike if you have a desktop file and copy it to your autostart dir10:25
apacheloggerit will have outdated l10n at some point10:25
apacheloggerdebfx: something with mangler in the name10:25
apacheloggerpkgmangler or something10:25
debfxah ok, I thought pkg-kde-tools would do that10:27
mfraz74at what point should the sun-java packages be renamed to oracle-java?10:28
shadeslayerScottK: i won't be able to do before 10th, so if someone else wants to take it up, i'll remove my name10:53
RiddellMamarok: not liking kubuntu-devel any more?11:02
shadeslayerapachelogger: so like, see you at DS :D11:03
shadeslayeroh11:04
shadeslayerMamarok: happy birthday!!!11:05
* jussi waves to davmor211:08
davmor2jussi: told you it was here that I'd heard of your nick :D11:08
jussihehe11:08
jussihow are things davmor2? anything interestinghappened? 11:09
davmor2jussi: yes thanks :)11:09
apacheloggershadeslayer: huh?11:22
shadeslayerapachelogger: pm11:22
apacheloggershadeslayer: I dont see no nothing11:22
MamarokRiddell: why do you think that?11:27
Mamarokshadeslayer: thank you :)11:27
RiddellMamarok: I got an unsubscribe notice11:27
Mamarokwhut?11:27
Mamarokthat was certainly not me!11:27
davmor2jussi: how are thing with you?  did you learn anything interesting at UDS?11:28
MamarokRiddell: but I did indeed not get any mail since May 29th11:29
Mamarokactually May 23rd11:29
Mamarokhm, not true, that was a cross-post to kde@11:29
Mamarokso the last mail is from May 1311:30
Mamarokthe day I was moving11:30
jussidavmor2: learnt lots, was very cool. Currently a very exciting time atm, with the baby coming. Went to the ultrasound this morning, saw the heartbeat etc :=)11:31
MamarokRiddell: how is this even possible? I was subscribed with various mail addresses so I could post from more than one, all gone11:32
MamarokI am certain I did not unsubscribe11:32
davmor2jussi: prey for a boy, girls are too much trouble ;)  especially when they are older :) "What do you mean your seeing a boy!  Your 21 you don't see boys yet!" and you know it....11:33
jussihahahahah11:33
ScottKQuintasan: Can you merge kdepim?  As usual shadeslayer is too busy to do actual work.11:58
ScottKdavmor2: What I tell them (having three girls) is "You aren't allowed to date until after you're married."  Eventually they realize that's unlikely to produce a result they are interested in.11:59
davmor2ScottK: I found sharpening a BIG knife on the doorstep put off potential boys :D12:01
ScottKI did have to give one a speech on proper behavior once.12:01
ScottKLater the $DAUGHTER in question told me "We had talked about it.  We were going to kiss, but then he said he was afraid if you caught us you'd beat him up."12:02
ScottKTo which I thought "Win".12:03
debfxthe avahi package dropped support for qt3, which kde3libs requires12:27
debfxso I guess we just let it die this cycle12:27
ScottKIt's removed from Debian, so it should go.12:30
debfxwe first need to merge papaya, gambas2 and regina-normal from Debian12:32
debfxthen we can remove kdelibs and kdewebdev-kde312:32
ScottKI already filed a sync request for regina-normal.12:34
debfxI'll have a look at papaya12:36
jussiScottK: you are a very scary man...12:45
ScottKPeople tell me that, but I don't see it myself.12:46
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debfxbug #794513 :)12:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 794513 in kdewebdev-kde3 (Ubuntu) "Please remove kdelibs and kdewebdev-kde3 from the archive" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79451312:53
jussishadeslayer: project neon wont update my stuff unless I specifically ask it to install certain things, right? 12:56
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jussiHrm, I just noticed our partition/disk manager has back up and restore of partitions, which is damn cool. 13:50
debfxapachelogger: why do we have 3 implementations of the desktop file processing in pkg-kde-tools? ^^14:18
debfxthat should be converted into a dh_kde_translations script14:19
shadeslayerjussi: eh what? all of p-n's deps are inside the ppa14:19
shadeslayerjussi: so everything is installed in /opt14:20
macoScottK: i find it weird being so close in age to your daughter14:23
ScottKIf age is a state of mind, there are probably days you're older than I am.14:24
macoheh if age is a state of mind, then im older than my passport says. had someone boggle when he found out i wasnt in my late 20s14:25
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didrocksdebfx: ScottK: so, i found that the crash was impact a lot of QML apps. Using -fno-strict-aliasing seems to workaround it and lead to no crash anymore (gcc 4.6 should be more agressive with this optimization). I reported upstream the relevant logs of warning and push meanwhile a new Qt with this14:48
didrocks+ https://code.launchpad.net/~utouch-team/qt/touch-end-fix/+merge/63417 btw14:48
ScottKfabo: ^^^ Thoughts?14:49
apacheloggerdebfx: so we can haz fun14:51
apacheloggerI am going to berlinz \o/14:54
didrocksfor the desktop summit?15:01
apacheloggeryes15:01
didrockssee you there then :)15:03
* apachelogger hugs didrocks15:03
* didrocks hugs apachelogger back15:04
faboScottK: it needs upstream review (most likely ddenis)15:19
ScottKdidrocks: ^^^15:19
didrocksScottK: you mean, about https://code.launchpad.net/~utouch-team/qt/touch-end-fix/+merge/63417 ?15:20
ScottKdidrocks: Yes.15:20
didrocksfabo: I don't know ddenis, can you ensure he's aware of that please?15:20
didrocksScottK: ok, just pushing the build change right now15:20
fabodidrocks: how xinput2.1 is implemented? I'm curious15:21
didrocksfabo: I think it's rather a question for cnd 15:21
fabodidrocks: sure, I'll ask him15:21
didrockscnd: ^^15:21
didrocksfabo: thanks :)15:21
cndfabo, ScottK, didrocks: ddenis may be able to review it, but he's no longer working on multitouch for qt15:22
cndI'm not sure how responsive he will be15:23
fabocnd: nobody else is working on it ;)15:23
cndI am :)15:23
fabocnd: it depends of the pov, that's why I'm asking how xinput2.1 is implemented?15:24
faboI don't see the Qt xinput2 patch applied so it's something else15:24
cndfabo, the patch should be applied15:25
cndif not, it may be because ScottK backed it out at one point?15:25
cndlet me check15:26
ScottKIIRC I didn't back it out.15:26
ScottKThere's a milestoned bug for Alpha 2 about the wacom issue.15:26
fabook15:27
cndfabo, it's all in patch kubuntu_28_xi2.1.patch15:27
cndit really needs to be cleaned up15:27
cndddenis just handed it to me and I fixed up some bugs and added it to the package15:28
cndit doesn't really implement XI 2.015:28
cndjust the multitouch part from XI 2.115:28
faboI have XI2 in meego and another path on top to support multiple device15:29
fabos/path/patch15:29
cndfabo, ddenis told me they would likely never add XI 2.0 support as it requires a lot of work, there are some corner-case issues with XI 2.0, and there's not much benefit15:36
cndI should say that here I mean "Nokia would likely never add the support"15:36
cndI'm sure if someone else did the work it could be merged :)15:36
cndis your patch for XI 2.0?15:37
faboyes, it's for XI 2.015:38
cndinteresting15:38
ScottKKDE 4.6.4 is released.15:38
cndcan you check to see if it's basically what is in the patch we have for xi 2.1?15:38
cndcause ddenis took some existing XI 2.0 code and added multitouch to it15:38
cndit's just that the XI 2.0 code didn't really do much at the time15:39
faboI'll check what we have in Ubuntu compared to MeeGo15:41
cndfabo, thanks :)15:43
cndeither way, is there anything I can do to push the multitouch fix through?15:44
cndit's really causing issues for some of our other developers who are wanting to use qml toucharea :)15:44
debfxcnd: I'll merge the branch16:16
cnddebfx, thanks :)16:16
didrocksdebfx: wait, doing it then, as I've the other change pending16:18
debfxdidrocks: sorry, I've already pushed the changes16:19
didrocksdebfx: ok, I'll handle the conflict and redo my changes then16:19
debfxshouldn't be too difficult as it only touched the changelog and the xinput patch16:21
didrocksyeah, bzr rebase helped as well16:22
c2tarunwhat is the channel for kubuntu meeting?16:27
ScottKc2tarun: #ubuntu-meeting.16:28
ScottKOr not.  I don't see it on the schedule.16:28
ScottKDarkwingDuck: When/where are we meeting?16:29
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fabocnd: denis disagreess. He'll comment on the patch17:14
cndfabo, ok17:14
cndthanks for scrounging him up :)17:14
cndfabo, so there's a slightly better way to do it, and I will work on getting it updated17:23
cndin the meantime, it is definitely better than before :)17:23
fabogreat :)17:23
_Groo_hi/2 all17:52
_Groo_anyone knows why nspluginwrapper is segfaulting in natty?17:52
DarkwingDuckScottK: it should be on the wiki and i sent an email18:03
DarkwingDuckim rushing home right now. (wife driving)18:04
DarkwingDuckScottK: meeting in just under 3 hours18:18
debfxDarkwingDuck: I think ScottK was referring to the fact that our meeting isn't on the #ubuntu-meeting schedule18:28
macoScottK: talked to ev about the prepare patch, made adjustments based on his review, waiting for re-review18:28
macoScottK: is shtylman gone for good? cjwatson says he's the one that wrote the keyboard stuff on kubuntu's installer18:29
debfxdpm: why is the app-install-data template in the gnome language pack? it really should be in the default one18:39
JontheEchidnaI filed a bug about that, sec18:41
JontheEchidnabug 64933918:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 649339 in Ubuntu Translations "app-install-data.mo is in -gnome language packs when it is useful in other DE's" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64933918:42
JontheEchidnalooks like it should be fixed once lang-packs start generating for oneiric18:42
JontheEchidnadebfx: ^18:42
debfxJontheEchidna: aha ok, I wonder why we don't get feedback about such l10n issues18:47
JontheEchidnadebfx: feedback from users?18:47
debfxyeah18:47
debfxoh you filed that bug in 201018:48
JontheEchidnaI think Intrepid and jaunty may have scared them all off18:48
JontheEchidna(international users)18:48
ScottKmaco: shtylman doesn't use KDE anymore, so probably.18:50
debfxpossibly but we seem to have at least a few italian translators that care about kubuntu18:50
debfxJontheEchidna: the categories aren't translated in muon sc18:51
JontheEchidnadebfx: yeah, not sure how to go about translating a custom xml file18:51
JontheEchidnawell, it's standard XML, but it's not something that I can just i18n()18:52
JontheEchidnasince it's XML and all18:52
macoScottK: we lost him?18:53
ScottKYup.18:53
JontheEchidnadebfx: I think if I can generate a .pot from the xml I can wrap the code where I grab the category names with i18n(), and everybody should be happy18:57
debfxJontheEchidna: where does that xml file come from?18:58
JontheEchidna /usr/share/kde4/apps/muon-installer/categories.xml18:58
JontheEchidnaIn the source, it's installer/categories.xml18:59
bambeeevening19:10
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DarkwingDuckGARRRRRRG20:51
apacheloggermeeting in 6 min it appears20:54
DarkwingDuckYup20:54
DarkwingDuckAnd my HD JUST arrived. So, while I'm installing everything I'll be attending via my phone.20:55
apacheloggerScottK, Riddell_, neversfelde: around?20:56
ScottKYes20:56
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: sounds inconvenient to me :P20:56
neversfeldeapachelogger: yes20:56
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: yes it is20:56
apacheloggerperfect20:56
ScottKDarkwingDuck should probably complain to the guy that scheduled the meeting.20:56
DarkwingDuckScottK: yeah i've ripped him a new one lol20:56
DarkwingDuckcould be worse... but i dont have my notes from spec reviews20:57
DarkwingDuckon my sd card20:58
DarkwingDuckoh well, ill go off of memory as much as i can :D20:59
apacheloggerrbelem, fabo: meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now21:02
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dpmdebfx, there is a bug about that, and IIRC it should be fixed in the next natty langpack21:28
dpmdebfx, bug 64933921:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 649339 in Ubuntu Translations "app-install-data.mo is in -gnome language packs when it is useful in other DE's" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64933921:29
dpm(we'll be releasing the next natty langpack this week)21:29
debfxdpm: thanks, good to know that it'll be fixed soon21:30
debfx^^21:30
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* yofel continues with 4.6.421:31
JontheEchidnadebfx: thanks for the patch21:51
JontheEchidnadebfx: I think it should work in theory. If the strings appear next time script runs then we'll know that it should be working21:53
* ScottK hints at JontheEchidna that he should be paying attention to the meeting.21:53
JontheEchidnaoh, is that now?21:53
ScottKstarted almost an hour ago.21:54
JontheEchidnaeek21:54
JontheEchidnamy conversion is off21:54
JontheEchidnaack, I also have a piano recital I have to go to in 5 minutes :(21:56
JontheEchidnaforgot about that21:57
JontheEchidnadebfx: One thing, I need to change the i18n call to this: m_name = i18nc("Category", tempElement.text().toUtf8());22:04
macoScottK: i messaged shtylman on twitter and he said the reason kde/gtk are different on the keyboard thing is that gtk one doesnt display the kbd image and he'll try to get a chance to take a look at that bug and point me in the right direction22:04
JontheEchidnai18n can't handle QString22:04
ScottKCool22:05
apacheloggerrbelem: are you awake now? ^^22:14
rbelemapachelogger, yup22:14
rbelemapachelogger, i missed the meeting :-(22:15
apacheloggerno22:15
apacheloggerstill going on22:15
apacheloggerplz join22:15
rbelemoh!22:15
rbelemgreat :-D22:15
debfxJontheEchidna: oh, the no testing included not having done a test build ^^22:22
QuintasanRiddell_: Oh, by the way, did you take a glance at that out of memory magic in bzr?22:32
apacheloggerQuintasan: we want plasma-active in neon, in fact, we want a snapshot ASAP in oneiric IMHO22:32
apacheloggerafiestas can help with that22:33
Riddell_Quintasan: it's https://launchpad.net/bugs/74682222:33
ubottuUbuntu bug 746822 in Launchpad itself "fails to build recipe with "bzr: out of memory"" [High,Triaged]22:33
Riddell_Quintasan: thoughts are to try installing a newer bzr on those machines, the current one is quite old22:33
QuintasanRiddell_: yeah, showstopper for our kdelibs, something and calligra builds22:33
yofelkdelibs kde-workspace kdepim calligra22:34
Riddell_go go kubuntu-council administrators22:35
Quintasan\o/22:35
* yofel goes back to 4.6.422:35
DarkwingDuckwin 2422:36
DarkwingDuckoops22:36
yofel^^22:36
DarkwingDuckirssi fail22:36
DarkwingDuck:P22:36
* Quintasan goes back to chemistry then22:36
Quintasanapachelogger: Remind me at Saturday22:36
Quintasansince I'm trying to learn something for tomorrow and I will be drinking after I am done with that boring school stuff22:37
debfxbug #794760 needs a core-dev ack22:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 794760 in cmake (Ubuntu) "Sync cmake 2.8.4+dfsg.1-3 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79476022:39

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