[04:13] <bil> hey guyz
[04:13] <bil> hello?
[04:13] <bil> anybody home??
[21:27] <darkmatter> hiya coz_ :)
[21:27] <coz_> darkmatter,  hey guy
[21:27] <darkmatter> coz_: http://www.microsoftaddict.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/12/files/2011/06/win8_start_web.jpg
[21:28] <coz_> darkmatter,  what's that?
[21:28] <darkmatter> windows 8
[21:28] <coz_> oh
[21:28] <coz_> darkmatter,  it has an appliance interface?
[21:29] <darkmatter> the tablet/netbook/lappy ui
[21:29] <coz_> darkmatter,         oh boy,, looks like it is across platforms now
[21:29] <darkmatter> lol. yeah
[21:30] <darkmatter> coz_: my backup psu no wrky. underpowered :(
[21:30] <darkmatter> gotta get a new one next month
[21:31] <coz_> darkmatter,  oh man,, yeah,, I usually have a few laying around from clients who give me their old systems.. not all work or even powerful enough but I can piggy back them sometimes
[21:31] <darkmatter> coz_: video of "mosh" in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itaOL_jSO-M&feature=player_embedded
[21:32] <darkmatter> actually looks awesome
[21:33] <coz_> darkmatter,  yeah, but I still like list driven menus,, I do not like appliance interfaces
[21:34] <coz_> darkmatter,  although,,this looks better designed
[21:36] <darkmatter> coz_: yes. perfect for compact systems. I'd run that on a laptop in a heartbeat
[21:37] <coz_> darkmatter,  and it seems they did not put all of their eggs into the same basket , they still have desktop interface
[21:39] <darkmatter> coz_: yes. they gave you a choice of which to run, plus you can run the desktop within the tile interface
[21:39] <darkmatter> which is cool
[21:39] <coz_> darkmatter,  which makes microsoft having a far superior,, design team :(
[21:40] <darkmatter> yesh
[21:42] <coz_> darkmatter,  which is a bit depressing considering the talent on this channel alone,, gnome,, canonical,, they have failed at design consitently
[21:43] <coz_> particularly gnome,,, of course they wont use 2 i nterfaces,, "too much work upkeeping classic and gnome3"  I am sure they would say that
[21:43] <darkmatter> yes :(
[21:44] <darkmatter> coz_: yes for failing consistently. but aS A PLUS, GNOME STILL HAS CLASSIVC
[21:44] <darkmatter> they call it fallback
[21:44] <coz_> darkmatter,  oh!   I thought that was out the window?
[21:44] <darkmatter> my internet is evil and flaky today
[21:45] <darkmatter> coz_: nope. open system setting > system info > graphics > forced fallback mode
[21:45] <coz_> darkmatter,  mmm   I may try that to see how compiz runs on it
[21:46] <darkmatter> it's same as gnome 2, but without the system menu. clock top center, and has the user menu fr settings/session
[21:46] <coz_> mmm
[21:46] <coz_> darkmatter,  ok then I will back off ,,"slightly"  from condeming the gnome developers :)
[21:47] <darkmatter> coz_: http://www.neowin.net/forum/uploads/monthly_05_2011/post-1302-0-84018800-1306241102.png
[21:48] <coz_> ah!!!
[21:48] <coz_> darkmatter,  that looks nice :(
[21:48] <darkmatter> and it works flawlessly with compiz. *plus* metacity is a functional compositor now
[21:48] <coz_> darkmatter,  excellent !! :)  I am a bit happier today now :)
[22:10] <coz_> ah I have to break ,, be back later