/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/06/08/#ubuntu-au.txt

head_victimsagaci: pong from last night10:44
sagaciuse UTC for meeting email?10:52
sagacihead_victim: ?10:53
head_victimI usually try to list it locally for each state, but as long as it's clear it shouldn't really matter too muhc10:54
* head_victim slaps heads of people who continue to use "wastebin" and "trash" in enAU :/10:54
somethingintereshead_victim: haha, my thoughts exactly. I just did a fresh install of 11.04 and now send files to the "wastebin" 10:55
head_victimI saw 2 or 3 different versions in the one unity package :/10:55
head_victimIt's MEANT to be "Rubbish Bin" as defined by our global leader enGB10:55
head_victimNatty has wastebin and I'm firing up oneiric to see what that has.10:56
somethingintereshead_victim: is it something anyone with a launchpad account can change? 10:56
head_victimsomethinginteres: pretty much, you have to be a member of the translation team but that's pretty open10:56
head_victimIn oneiric it's "Trash" :/10:57
head_victimI'm starting to think we might need to employ sagaci's idea of downloading the whole pot, grepping for "trash" and "waste" and "bin" and converting them all and uploading.10:57
head_victimIf only we were close enough I'd go round and we'd knock it over in a day I'd reckon.10:57
somethingintereshead_victim: sounds like a plan! :) 10:58
sagacihead_victim: interactively, not a blanket replace10:58
head_victimIt's about 600mb download but the issue is the speed off launchpad isn't great.10:58
head_victimsagaci: yes, of course :) 10:58
sagacihead_victim: the issue is uploading them back10:58
sagacihead_victim: are you changing over to the new 500gig bundle?10:59
head_victimNope, I don't bundle, I've wangled a cheaper deal than any bundle could get me.11:00
head_victimBut I"d easily have 10gb spare a month in my current 50gb allowance anyway, more when Lubuntu goes official and I don't have to torrent that anymore.11:00
somethinginteresAnyone know of a script that does all the optimisations from www.lesswatts.org automagicaly? 11:01
head_victimsomethinginteres: didn't know it even existed11:02
somethingintereshead_victim: nor did I until yesterday. I need it because my new netbook Toshiba NB550D just doesn't pack the punch I need. 11:03
head_victimLubuntu!11:03
sagacidownloading the base pack11:04
sagaci588 mb11:04
somethingintereshead_victim: Ooo, you reckon just a change to something like Lubuntu would increase battery life a good amount? 11:04
head_victimsomethinginteres: not sure, if it's only battery power you're worried about probably not.11:05
somethingintereshead_victim: I should be clear that's what I meant. "pack a punch" I just realised sounded to much like "graphics power" :P 11:05
head_victimsagaci: nice work, after it's done definitely email the launchpad group and say "oi, don't do it again!" I've had to change several back just tonight.11:05
somethingintereshead_victim: you'd think if a guideline was set out it'd be followed? That's a bit of hassle for the en_AU team 11:06
sagacihead_victim: only getting 6mbit download from lp11:06
head_victimsomethinginteres: all our guidelines for translation basically point back to the GB team11:06
head_victimsagaci: yeah that's going to be the issue.11:06
sagaciupload will be 1mbit at best for me11:07
head_victimIf it were 6MB I'd be impressed though (I misread it the first time)11:07
head_victimsomethinginteres: I'm pretty sure I saw something on phoronix showing that basically there was little to no different between Ubuntu flavours as far as power consumption goes.11:11
somethingintereshead_victim: rightyho. Seems like Windows wins the race as far as power consumption goes at the moment. Though things seem to be getting better each release11:12
head_victimsomethinginteres: that's a bit scary11:13
head_victimsagaci: that's actually the main reason I detest PPAs and non official repositories, they're too slow when you need updates11:14
sagaciyeppers11:14
sagacisoftware in ubuntu finals are good enough / stable enough / "bleeding edge" enough for me anyway11:15
head_victimYeah rarely I have to add something to get some odd piece of stuff to work (mobile phone syncing for example)11:16
sagacifinished dl11:16
head_victimBut today's update on my oneiric VM was Fetched 99.4 MB in 32s (3,071 kB/s)  11:16
head_victimTakes longer to install by far than it does to download these days. Used to be the other way around.11:16
sagacitakes longer to unpack/configuring via apt-get than the download itself11:17
sagacii'll be back later11:18
sagacihead_victim, pin11:58
sagacig11:58
head_victimsagaci: pon ;)11:58
sagacihead_victim, you know how you have unity --replace... what's the equiv for lxde12:01
head_victimlxde --replace ?12:02
head_victimHang on, booting a vm to play and see if I can figure it out12:02
sagaciwell it's more of a on boot the panel isn't showing, just the desktop icons - chromium and file manager12:09
sagacitried running lxpanel but it says it's already running12:09
head_victim"lxpanelctl restart"12:11
sagacii'll try that12:16
sagaciyep, that worked12:18
sagacibut it only happens every few boots12:18
sagaciweird12:18
head_victimWhat version?12:20
head_victimAnd any output to logs?12:21
sagacisorry, just shut it down :P12:21
sagacilubuntu 11.04, that 64-bit one12:21
sagacion my netbook12:21
head_victimAh ok, I haven't tried a 64bit one12:25
sagacihead_victim, around for a while?12:31
head_victimGotta write a job app so I'd say so12:32
sagaciI've got a good command for you to try out12:33
sagacimeh, couldn't find it12:34
sagacihead_victim, the 588mb base unpacks to 4 gig12:35
head_victimWhat did it do?12:35
sagacisorry, 3.4gig12:36
head_victimsagaci: cool so you've already downloaded it?12:36
sagaciyeah, did about an hour ago, just unpacked it then12:36
sagacifyi http://paste.ubuntu.com/621685/12:38
sagacihead_victim, looks like it only has a handful of .po's12:46
head_victimHm really?12:46
sagaciwell there's about 1300 templates in translations, only 697 .po's12:47
head_victimOh, so handful = sarcastic12:47
sagaciwell I'm just saying it's not equal to the amount on lp12:48
head_victimAs long as it makes the "trash" become "rubbish bin" I'd be happy. It's annoying how many different ways it's written.12:49
sagacii'm going to try to rename dialog to dialogue and reupload tomorrow to see if it works13:00
sagacieven catalog has 400 odd strings to be renamed13:01
sagaciit makes sense to do it this way rather than trawling through 95% of usual stuff that doesn't need to be touched13:02
head_victimYeah, you know where the enGB stuff is don't you? It has a reasonable list of common words13:02
head_victimLast time I tried I had issues uploading because I must have done something wrong. I translated the whole of FF13:02
sagacihead_victim, email sent your way13:39
head_victimReplied ;)13:40
head_victimNice work :)13:51
sagaciactually, I'm not going to touch that base pack I've downloaded just until I read up on it all a bit more13:53
head_victimFair call. I'm sure there are people in -translations willing to help13:53
sagacilike I've still got the original tar.gz pack but I'll mess around and then redo it tomrrow13:53
sagacis/tomrrow/tomorrow13:54
head_victimYeah the upload part was the bit I stuffed up13:56
sagacihead_victim, how do you upload it, via dput or something?13:56
head_victimI was putting the pots back up13:56
head_victimBut failed miserably13:56
sagaciyeah13:58
sagaciI downloaded the "active" base pack, dated 23-04-2011, surely that's not the correct way to do it13:59
head_victimSorry mate, I know nothing on the topic that's why I decided to stick to web based until I'd read up on it a lot more13:59
sagaciand it's weird that you have to download the whole pack which has all translations, rather than just the subset -AU14:00
sagacimight be a tad harder than expected14:09
head_victimsagaci: as soon as Lubuntu goes official we should both lodge applications to get it mirrored on aarnet :P15:52
sagaciyeah, around alpha 3, you reckon?15:52
head_victimNot sure TBH, awaiting cdimage space apparently, that was in testing at the time of UDS15:53
sagacianyway, off to sleep15:59
sagacii'll talk to you later15:59

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