[10:44] sagaci: pong from last night [10:52] use UTC for meeting email? [10:53] head_victim: ? [10:54] I usually try to list it locally for each state, but as long as it's clear it shouldn't really matter too muhc [10:54] * head_victim slaps heads of people who continue to use "wastebin" and "trash" in enAU :/ [10:55] head_victim: haha, my thoughts exactly. I just did a fresh install of 11.04 and now send files to the "wastebin" [10:55] I saw 2 or 3 different versions in the one unity package :/ [10:55] It's MEANT to be "Rubbish Bin" as defined by our global leader enGB [10:56] Natty has wastebin and I'm firing up oneiric to see what that has. [10:56] head_victim: is it something anyone with a launchpad account can change? [10:56] somethinginteres: pretty much, you have to be a member of the translation team but that's pretty open [10:57] In oneiric it's "Trash" :/ [10:57] I'm starting to think we might need to employ sagaci's idea of downloading the whole pot, grepping for "trash" and "waste" and "bin" and converting them all and uploading. [10:57] If only we were close enough I'd go round and we'd knock it over in a day I'd reckon. [10:58] head_victim: sounds like a plan! :) [10:58] head_victim: interactively, not a blanket replace [10:58] It's about 600mb download but the issue is the speed off launchpad isn't great. [10:58] sagaci: yes, of course :) [10:58] head_victim: the issue is uploading them back [10:59] head_victim: are you changing over to the new 500gig bundle? [11:00] Nope, I don't bundle, I've wangled a cheaper deal than any bundle could get me. [11:00] But I"d easily have 10gb spare a month in my current 50gb allowance anyway, more when Lubuntu goes official and I don't have to torrent that anymore. [11:01] Anyone know of a script that does all the optimisations from www.lesswatts.org automagicaly? [11:02] somethinginteres: didn't know it even existed [11:03] head_victim: nor did I until yesterday. I need it because my new netbook Toshiba NB550D just doesn't pack the punch I need. [11:03] Lubuntu! [11:04] downloading the base pack [11:04] 588 mb [11:04] head_victim: Ooo, you reckon just a change to something like Lubuntu would increase battery life a good amount? [11:05] somethinginteres: not sure, if it's only battery power you're worried about probably not. [11:05] head_victim: I should be clear that's what I meant. "pack a punch" I just realised sounded to much like "graphics power" :P [11:05] sagaci: nice work, after it's done definitely email the launchpad group and say "oi, don't do it again!" I've had to change several back just tonight. [11:06] head_victim: you'd think if a guideline was set out it'd be followed? That's a bit of hassle for the en_AU team [11:06] head_victim: only getting 6mbit download from lp [11:06] somethinginteres: all our guidelines for translation basically point back to the GB team [11:06] sagaci: yeah that's going to be the issue. [11:07] upload will be 1mbit at best for me [11:07] If it were 6MB I'd be impressed though (I misread it the first time) [11:11] somethinginteres: I'm pretty sure I saw something on phoronix showing that basically there was little to no different between Ubuntu flavours as far as power consumption goes. [11:12] head_victim: rightyho. Seems like Windows wins the race as far as power consumption goes at the moment. Though things seem to be getting better each release [11:13] somethinginteres: that's a bit scary [11:14] sagaci: that's actually the main reason I detest PPAs and non official repositories, they're too slow when you need updates [11:14] yeppers [11:15] software in ubuntu finals are good enough / stable enough / "bleeding edge" enough for me anyway [11:16] Yeah rarely I have to add something to get some odd piece of stuff to work (mobile phone syncing for example) [11:16] finished dl [11:16] But today's update on my oneiric VM was Fetched 99.4 MB in 32s (3,071 kB/s) [11:16] Takes longer to install by far than it does to download these days. Used to be the other way around. [11:17] takes longer to unpack/configuring via apt-get than the download itself [11:18] i'll be back later [11:58] head_victim, pin [11:58] g [11:58] sagaci: pon ;) [12:01] head_victim, you know how you have unity --replace... what's the equiv for lxde [12:02] lxde --replace ? [12:02] Hang on, booting a vm to play and see if I can figure it out [12:09] well it's more of a on boot the panel isn't showing, just the desktop icons - chromium and file manager [12:09] tried running lxpanel but it says it's already running [12:11] "lxpanelctl restart" [12:16] i'll try that [12:18] yep, that worked [12:18] but it only happens every few boots [12:18] weird [12:20] What version? [12:21] And any output to logs? [12:21] sorry, just shut it down :P [12:21] lubuntu 11.04, that 64-bit one [12:21] on my netbook [12:25] Ah ok, I haven't tried a 64bit one [12:31] head_victim, around for a while? [12:32] Gotta write a job app so I'd say so [12:33] I've got a good command for you to try out [12:34] meh, couldn't find it [12:35] head_victim, the 588mb base unpacks to 4 gig [12:35] What did it do? [12:36] sorry, 3.4gig [12:36] sagaci: cool so you've already downloaded it? [12:36] yeah, did about an hour ago, just unpacked it then [12:38] fyi http://paste.ubuntu.com/621685/ [12:46] head_victim, looks like it only has a handful of .po's [12:46] Hm really? [12:47] well there's about 1300 templates in translations, only 697 .po's [12:47] Oh, so handful = sarcastic [12:48] well I'm just saying it's not equal to the amount on lp [12:49] As long as it makes the "trash" become "rubbish bin" I'd be happy. It's annoying how many different ways it's written. [13:00] i'm going to try to rename dialog to dialogue and reupload tomorrow to see if it works [13:01] even catalog has 400 odd strings to be renamed [13:02] it makes sense to do it this way rather than trawling through 95% of usual stuff that doesn't need to be touched [13:02] Yeah, you know where the enGB stuff is don't you? It has a reasonable list of common words [13:02] Last time I tried I had issues uploading because I must have done something wrong. I translated the whole of FF [13:39] head_victim, email sent your way [13:40] Replied ;) [13:51] Nice work :) [13:53] actually, I'm not going to touch that base pack I've downloaded just until I read up on it all a bit more [13:53] Fair call. I'm sure there are people in -translations willing to help [13:53] like I've still got the original tar.gz pack but I'll mess around and then redo it tomrrow [13:54] s/tomrrow/tomorrow [13:56] Yeah the upload part was the bit I stuffed up [13:56] head_victim, how do you upload it, via dput or something? [13:56] I was putting the pots back up [13:56] But failed miserably [13:58] yeah [13:59] I downloaded the "active" base pack, dated 23-04-2011, surely that's not the correct way to do it [13:59] Sorry mate, I know nothing on the topic that's why I decided to stick to web based until I'd read up on it a lot more [14:00] and it's weird that you have to download the whole pack which has all translations, rather than just the subset -AU [14:09] might be a tad harder than expected [15:52] sagaci: as soon as Lubuntu goes official we should both lodge applications to get it mirrored on aarnet :P [15:52] yeah, around alpha 3, you reckon? [15:53] Not sure TBH, awaiting cdimage space apparently, that was in testing at the time of UDS [15:59] anyway, off to sleep [15:59] i'll talk to you later