[10:44] <head_victim> sagaci: pong from last night
[10:52] <sagaci> use UTC for meeting email?
[10:53] <sagaci> head_victim: ?
[10:54] <head_victim> I usually try to list it locally for each state, but as long as it's clear it shouldn't really matter too muhc
[10:54]  * head_victim slaps heads of people who continue to use "wastebin" and "trash" in enAU :/
[10:55] <somethinginteres> head_victim: haha, my thoughts exactly. I just did a fresh install of 11.04 and now send files to the "wastebin" 
[10:55] <head_victim> I saw 2 or 3 different versions in the one unity package :/
[10:55] <head_victim> It's MEANT to be "Rubbish Bin" as defined by our global leader enGB
[10:56] <head_victim> Natty has wastebin and I'm firing up oneiric to see what that has.
[10:56] <somethinginteres> head_victim: is it something anyone with a launchpad account can change? 
[10:56] <head_victim> somethinginteres: pretty much, you have to be a member of the translation team but that's pretty open
[10:57] <head_victim> In oneiric it's "Trash" :/
[10:57] <head_victim> I'm starting to think we might need to employ sagaci's idea of downloading the whole pot, grepping for "trash" and "waste" and "bin" and converting them all and uploading.
[10:57] <head_victim> If only we were close enough I'd go round and we'd knock it over in a day I'd reckon.
[10:58] <somethinginteres> head_victim: sounds like a plan! :) 
[10:58] <sagaci> head_victim: interactively, not a blanket replace
[10:58] <head_victim> It's about 600mb download but the issue is the speed off launchpad isn't great.
[10:58] <head_victim> sagaci: yes, of course :) 
[10:58] <sagaci> head_victim: the issue is uploading them back
[10:59] <sagaci> head_victim: are you changing over to the new 500gig bundle?
[11:00] <head_victim> Nope, I don't bundle, I've wangled a cheaper deal than any bundle could get me.
[11:00] <head_victim> But I"d easily have 10gb spare a month in my current 50gb allowance anyway, more when Lubuntu goes official and I don't have to torrent that anymore.
[11:01] <somethinginteres> Anyone know of a script that does all the optimisations from www.lesswatts.org automagicaly? 
[11:02] <head_victim> somethinginteres: didn't know it even existed
[11:03] <somethinginteres> head_victim: nor did I until yesterday. I need it because my new netbook Toshiba NB550D just doesn't pack the punch I need. 
[11:03] <head_victim> Lubuntu!
[11:04] <sagaci> downloading the base pack
[11:04] <sagaci> 588 mb
[11:04] <somethinginteres> head_victim: Ooo, you reckon just a change to something like Lubuntu would increase battery life a good amount? 
[11:05] <head_victim> somethinginteres: not sure, if it's only battery power you're worried about probably not.
[11:05] <somethinginteres> head_victim: I should be clear that's what I meant. "pack a punch" I just realised sounded to much like "graphics power" :P 
[11:05] <head_victim> sagaci: nice work, after it's done definitely email the launchpad group and say "oi, don't do it again!" I've had to change several back just tonight.
[11:06] <somethinginteres> head_victim: you'd think if a guideline was set out it'd be followed? That's a bit of hassle for the en_AU team 
[11:06] <sagaci> head_victim: only getting 6mbit download from lp
[11:06] <head_victim> somethinginteres: all our guidelines for translation basically point back to the GB team
[11:06] <head_victim> sagaci: yeah that's going to be the issue.
[11:07] <sagaci> upload will be 1mbit at best for me
[11:07] <head_victim> If it were 6MB I'd be impressed though (I misread it the first time)
[11:11] <head_victim> somethinginteres: I'm pretty sure I saw something on phoronix showing that basically there was little to no different between Ubuntu flavours as far as power consumption goes.
[11:12] <somethinginteres> head_victim: rightyho. Seems like Windows wins the race as far as power consumption goes at the moment. Though things seem to be getting better each release
[11:13] <head_victim> somethinginteres: that's a bit scary
[11:14] <head_victim> sagaci: that's actually the main reason I detest PPAs and non official repositories, they're too slow when you need updates
[11:14] <sagaci> yeppers
[11:15] <sagaci> software in ubuntu finals are good enough / stable enough / "bleeding edge" enough for me anyway
[11:16] <head_victim> Yeah rarely I have to add something to get some odd piece of stuff to work (mobile phone syncing for example)
[11:16] <sagaci> finished dl
[11:16] <head_victim> But today's update on my oneiric VM was Fetched 99.4 MB in 32s (3,071 kB/s)  
[11:16] <head_victim> Takes longer to install by far than it does to download these days. Used to be the other way around.
[11:17] <sagaci> takes longer to unpack/configuring via apt-get than the download itself
[11:18] <sagaci> i'll be back later
[11:58] <sagaci> head_victim, pin
[11:58] <sagaci> g
[11:58] <head_victim> sagaci: pon ;)
[12:01] <sagaci> head_victim, you know how you have unity --replace... what's the equiv for lxde
[12:02] <head_victim> lxde --replace ?
[12:02] <head_victim> Hang on, booting a vm to play and see if I can figure it out
[12:09] <sagaci> well it's more of a on boot the panel isn't showing, just the desktop icons - chromium and file manager
[12:09] <sagaci> tried running lxpanel but it says it's already running
[12:11] <head_victim> "lxpanelctl restart"
[12:16] <sagaci> i'll try that
[12:18] <sagaci> yep, that worked
[12:18] <sagaci> but it only happens every few boots
[12:18] <sagaci> weird
[12:20] <head_victim> What version?
[12:21] <head_victim> And any output to logs?
[12:21] <sagaci> sorry, just shut it down :P
[12:21] <sagaci> lubuntu 11.04, that 64-bit one
[12:21] <sagaci> on my netbook
[12:25] <head_victim> Ah ok, I haven't tried a 64bit one
[12:31] <sagaci> head_victim, around for a while?
[12:32] <head_victim> Gotta write a job app so I'd say so
[12:33] <sagaci> I've got a good command for you to try out
[12:34] <sagaci> meh, couldn't find it
[12:35] <sagaci> head_victim, the 588mb base unpacks to 4 gig
[12:35] <head_victim> What did it do?
[12:36] <sagaci> sorry, 3.4gig
[12:36] <head_victim> sagaci: cool so you've already downloaded it?
[12:36] <sagaci> yeah, did about an hour ago, just unpacked it then
[12:38] <sagaci> fyi http://paste.ubuntu.com/621685/
[12:46] <sagaci> head_victim, looks like it only has a handful of .po's
[12:46] <head_victim> Hm really?
[12:47] <sagaci> well there's about 1300 templates in translations, only 697 .po's
[12:47] <head_victim> Oh, so handful = sarcastic
[12:48] <sagaci> well I'm just saying it's not equal to the amount on lp
[12:49] <head_victim> As long as it makes the "trash" become "rubbish bin" I'd be happy. It's annoying how many different ways it's written.
[13:00] <sagaci> i'm going to try to rename dialog to dialogue and reupload tomorrow to see if it works
[13:01] <sagaci> even catalog has 400 odd strings to be renamed
[13:02] <sagaci> it makes sense to do it this way rather than trawling through 95% of usual stuff that doesn't need to be touched
[13:02] <head_victim> Yeah, you know where the enGB stuff is don't you? It has a reasonable list of common words
[13:02] <head_victim> Last time I tried I had issues uploading because I must have done something wrong. I translated the whole of FF
[13:39] <sagaci> head_victim, email sent your way
[13:40] <head_victim> Replied ;)
[13:51] <head_victim> Nice work :)
[13:53] <sagaci> actually, I'm not going to touch that base pack I've downloaded just until I read up on it all a bit more
[13:53] <head_victim> Fair call. I'm sure there are people in -translations willing to help
[13:53] <sagaci> like I've still got the original tar.gz pack but I'll mess around and then redo it tomrrow
[13:54] <sagaci> s/tomrrow/tomorrow
[13:56] <head_victim> Yeah the upload part was the bit I stuffed up
[13:56] <sagaci> head_victim, how do you upload it, via dput or something?
[13:56] <head_victim> I was putting the pots back up
[13:56] <head_victim> But failed miserably
[13:58] <sagaci> yeah
[13:59] <sagaci> I downloaded the "active" base pack, dated 23-04-2011, surely that's not the correct way to do it
[13:59] <head_victim> Sorry mate, I know nothing on the topic that's why I decided to stick to web based until I'd read up on it a lot more
[14:00] <sagaci> and it's weird that you have to download the whole pack which has all translations, rather than just the subset -AU
[14:09] <sagaci> might be a tad harder than expected
[15:52] <head_victim> sagaci: as soon as Lubuntu goes official we should both lodge applications to get it mirrored on aarnet :P
[15:52] <sagaci> yeah, around alpha 3, you reckon?
[15:53] <head_victim> Not sure TBH, awaiting cdimage space apparently, that was in testing at the time of UDS
[15:59] <sagaci> anyway, off to sleep
[15:59] <sagaci> i'll talk to you later