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ranilynnhi all i was wondering if anyone knew how to get the wireless to to work on my laptop01:03
holsteinranilynn: if you can plug it in to wired internet temporarily, you should get a message about drivers that are available01:04
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fallencreationsi am trying to install ubuntu onto an external hard drive. I have installed it to the drive using the live cd. when i boot from the drive it stops at the grub> prompt. i have tried using "boot" which gives "error: no kernel loaded". any ideas?01:32
elks294msg nickserv identify 12312303:43
elks294well that was noobish03:44
semitonesall we saw was ******03:45
semitones:P03:45
brown_fernsemitones: That was just the six star rating.03:47
brown_fernThat was a joke, I don't even understand that nature of the faux pas.03:48
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ApOgEEhi all08:52
brown_fern*remarkable loss for words*09:08
[SpitfirE]Hello. I dont suppose anyone knows why im having trouble booting from a LiveUSB?09:38
[SpitfirE]When i tell it to boot from USB, a menu appears for a second before the screen goes black and a load of command lines appears then nothing else happens.09:38
bioterrorwhat those lines says09:39
[SpitfirE]It normally ends with "Cannot create directory"09:40
[SpitfirE]But the menu that appears doesnt look anything like the delightful one pictured on the "How to" page on Ubuntu.com09:40
[SpitfirE]It looks like teletext09:40
[SpitfirE]Not sure if thats significant09:40
[SpitfirE]Yeah thats what it says. I would be more specific but I dont know of a way to screenshot that boot screen =(09:43
s-foxo/13:54
coalwaterhey s-fox14:11
s-foxHello coalwater .14:24
coalwateri know this might be a silly question, but what group do u participate in most, dev/bugs/wiki etc, just curious14:26
stlsaintcoalwater: who are you asking this too?14:26
coalwaters-fox,14:27
s-foxmoi stlsaint :)14:27
s-foxAt the moment my focus is support coalwater.14:28
stlsaints-fox: o/14:29
coalwateri see, thanks14:29
s-foxcoalwater, the sod is coming up too, which will see me help out where needed.14:30
coalwaterwhat's sod?14:31
s-foxsummer of documentation - it is for the wiki group.  I haven't done anything for that group since 2008 / 200914:32
coalwatero ok, got it14:32
s-foxwhy the questions coalwater ?14:33
coalwatertrying to find dev members lol14:33
s-foxI could get involved with the dev team coalwater .  I am a web developer and database administrator professionally coalwater .14:34
coalwaterhm back, someone decided to play with the wiring, so s-fox if u said any thing i didn't get it lol14:43
s-fox<s-fox> I could get involved with the dev team coalwater .  I am a web developer and database administrator professionally coalwater .14:43
coalwaterso why sticking with wikis and support?14:43
s-foxI do not wish to over stretch myself coalwater .  I have made that mistake before.14:46
s-foxAnd besides,  I do monitor the programming talk section of the ubuntu forums, posting when I have something to add that has not already been said.14:47
coalwateri just think we need some active devs around here, ones who are not so busy with other stuff14:49
s-foxI can get involved if I am needed coalwater .  I remember the group had more than enough helpers when I last looked. Does it need more help?14:50
[SpitfirE]Does anyone know of a reason i wouldnt be able to boot Ubuntu from a flash drive, after i choose install i get the error: "no such file or directory" - Always in /scripts/casper-bottom/14:50
[SpitfirE]Im honestly stumped =/14:51
coalwatermaybe it actually doesn't exist14:51
[SpitfirE]I dont see why it should14:51
coalwatererror while creating it14:52
[SpitfirE]Since I havent actually installed it yet14:52
coalwatermaybe14:52
[SpitfirE]So why would it be there14:52
[SpitfirE]Any idea why that would happen?14:52
[SpitfirE]Ive dowloaded 2 different versions of the .ISO file14:52
[SpitfirE]Used 2 different USB sticks14:52
[SpitfirE]Both formatted14:52
coalwaterI'm not sure then what might be the problem14:52
coalwaters-fox, what languages do u use ?14:59
s-foxcoalwater main ones are :  php, js, python and just lately perl15:00
coalwateri'm a php dev, currently learning python to help out, kinda slow at it, work takes a lot of my time sadly lol15:02
[SpitfirE]=|15:04
[SpitfirE]Im just an ignorant Scottish boy15:04
[SpitfirE]But that seems like rather alot of different programming languages.15:04
stlsaint[SpitfirE]: not that many considering field of work15:31
stlsaintmost programmers have at least two-three fluent languages under their belt15:31
coalwaternot to mention that html,css,js,php,mysql is usually considered 1 package lol15:34
stlsaintcoalwater: also that php and mysql pretty much go hand in hand ;)16:03
DD1hey, i wanna install audio driver for my laptop on lucid, please guide me to some resource?18:07
holsteinDD1: you shouldnt need to18:08
holsteinlet me tell you a couple commands to run...18:08
holsteinDD1: open a terminal18:08
DD1ok18:09
DD1yeah18:09
holsteinrun lspci18:10
holsteinlook for 'audio device'18:10
holsteingrab that line and paste it here18:10
DD1holstein: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)18:12
holsteinOK18:12
holsteinDD1: now in the terminal run18:12
holsteinaplay -l18:12
holstein*dont paste that here18:12
holsteinjust see that something comes up18:12
holsteinthen, run...18:12
holsteinarecord -l18:13
holsteinand see that something is there18:13
holsteinlet me know if something is there or not...18:13
DD1arecord: device_list:223: no soundcards found...18:13
holsteinDD1: same for aplay?18:14
holsteinno soundcards?18:14
DD1seems aplay is taking too long18:15
DD1no output yet18:15
holsteinDD1: aplay -l18:15
holsteinhit control+c18:16
holsteinand try again18:16
holsteinDD1: is this 10.04?18:16
DD1yes18:16
holsteinOK18:17
holsteinDD1: have you check for updates?18:17
holsteinand applied them?18:17
holsteinwhat you are going to want to do (assuming the updates doesnt give you sound) is update alsa18:18
holsteinheres one way... http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/18:19
philinuxholstein: I reckon with that newish sound card a later version of ubuntu is needed. Testing with a live cd would be a good idea?18:19
philinuxholstein: Although upgrading alsa might just do it.18:20
holsteinyeah, like philinux suggests, testing with ubuntu 10.10 or 11.04 would be an easy way to confirm that a newer alsa version will do the trick18:21
holsteinheres a PPA18:21
holsteinhttps://launchpad.net/~team-iquik/+archive/alsa18:21
holsteinDD1: assuming you are familiar with how to purge-ppa , theres no harm in trying this18:22
philinuxholstein: That alsa guide is not for the faint hearted lol. Although it is fairly step by step.18:22
holsteinsudo apt-add-repository ppa:team-iquik/alsa18:22
holsteinphilinux: yeah, it took me a bit to find a PPA i liked18:22
philinuxholstein: He quit lol hope he comes back.18:22
holsteineh18:22
philinuxDD1 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)18:23
philinuxOh well18:23
Guest43162Could anybody help me to resolve the issue of battery indicator?19:01
philinuxGuest43162: What exactly is the issue. I only got 5 mins though19:06
holsteinDD1: HEY, i found a PPA that would make that easier19:06
holsteinin a terminal...19:06
holsteinsudo apt-add-repository ppa:team-iquik/alsa19:06
holsteinsudo apt-get update19:06
Daniel0108Guest43162: try this battery indicator if you don't have enough functions: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/battery-applet-status-ubuntu/19:06
holsteinsudo apt-get upgrade19:06
Guest43162the battery indicator is not working. It will only show as connected to AC even you are running on battery.19:06
bioterrorGuest43162, "show always indicator" or what ever that settings was19:07
Guest43162It will only show up if you choose show always.19:07
bioterrorthat's best option19:08
bioterrorwhat's wrong with it?19:08
Guest43162I am trying the link. please give me a minute.19:09
Guest43162I have checked the link.19:09
Guest43162this will occur after recognizing the battery right?19:10
Daniel0108Guest43162: ohh, so your battery doesn't get recognized?19:11
Guest43162Yes.19:12
Guest43162Worked fine with Windows 7.19:12
Guest43162Is there a fix for the issue?19:14
bodhi_zazenGuest43162: I hav no idea how to fix the problem, if it is not working, I would file a bug report19:14
Guest43162okay.19:15
Guest43162thank you for your help.19:17
Guest43162Good  bye.19:17
gmunk3yi have a problem with the panel menu19:26
gmunk3ydoes anyone know how to fix an overlapping panel?19:26
[SpitfirE]Hey guys, I just tried to install Ubuntu from a livedisk, though it worked. But then rebooted. Now im getting the following message: "(initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input/output error - Cannot mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs"20:00
[SpitfirE]Does anyone know how I can rectify this problem/20:00
holstein[SpitfirE]: tell us about the drive configuration20:01
[SpitfirE]Ooook20:01
[SpitfirE]What do you want to know?20:01
holsteinstart at the beginning, and just lay it all out20:01
holsteinSATA20:01
holsteinPATA?20:01
holsteinwhatever20:01
holsteinraid...20:01
[SpitfirE]Oh good its acronym time20:02
[SpitfirE]Well20:02
[SpitfirE]IDK20:02
[SpitfirE]=(20:02
holstein[SpitfirE]: desktop, laptop?20:03
[SpitfirE]Desktop20:03
holstein[SpitfirE]: are you dual booting?20:03
holsteinor trying to?20:03
[SpitfirE]I tried to install Ubuntu alongside Windows, yes.20:03
[SpitfirE]Well I got to end of the process of installing, and had to reboot20:04
[SpitfirE]Actually I think I have had a brainwave20:04
[SpitfirE]I just recalled i had to partition a drive of 1TB, 400 in use, 600 not20:04
[SpitfirE]Which leads me to believe....20:04
[SpitfirE]I installed it to my external harddrive20:04
holsteinyeah, thats not great20:05
[SpitfirE]OK20:05
holsteinIF you install grub like that, and the drive goes away20:05
holsteinit'll complain, and not boot anything AFAIK20:05
[SpitfirE]Right20:05
holsteinanyways.. try plugging it back in20:05
[SpitfirE]Right now?20:05
holsteinthen, decide what you want as the end goal20:05
holsteinwhere you want what and all that20:05
[SpitfirE](I installed with everything in, then took out everything so as not to "confuse" it so i only left keyboard/mouse in)20:06
[SpitfirE]What do you mean "where I want what"20:06
[SpitfirE]Im sorry I know you'd probably be making perfect sense to the vast majority of people on here20:06
[SpitfirE]But im just an ignorant Scottish boy20:06
holsteinlike, if you dont want ubuntu on the external drive20:07
holsteindecide where you want it20:07
holsteinif you have made an error, or changed your mind20:07
[SpitfirE]Would you say there is any advantage to having it on the external HDD?20:07
[SpitfirE]I dont move my computer so I see no downside to it20:07
holsteinnah, you just have to be aware of grub20:07
holsteinpersonally, when i do that20:07
[SpitfirE]Im sorry I dont know what that is20:08
[SpitfirE]Isnt that the installer?20:08
holstein*install to external drives, i put grub on the external drive20:08
[SpitfirE]No wait20:08
[SpitfirE]thats the bootloader isnt it20:08
[SpitfirE]Checked my notes20:08
holstein assuming the machine can boot the USB device20:08
holstein[SpitfirE]: yup, boot loader20:08
[SpitfirE]Yeah20:08
holsteincan the machine boot USB?20:08
[SpitfirE]In my boot order I can go for my HDD, CD drive, STORY device (samsung STORY 1tb external HDD) or any flash drives20:09
[SpitfirE]But20:09
holsteinactually, first thing... plug that drive back in, and make sure it works20:09
[SpitfirE]Id rather it be on my regular HDD20:09
[SpitfirE]Yeha it works20:09
holsteinthen, you can decide what you want to do20:09
holstein[SpitfirE]: it boots when the drive is plugged in?20:09
[SpitfirE]It didnt a moment ago20:09
[SpitfirE]Or was it not in20:09
[SpitfirE]hrrmph20:10
[SpitfirE]I see _nothing_ in the external HDD20:10
[SpitfirE]Apart from what was there before20:10
[SpitfirE]should i20:11
holstein[SpitfirE]: IF the drive was plugged in when grug was installed, that could be it20:11
holstein[SpitfirE]: this is not too challening20:11
holsteincheck out20:11
holstein!grub220:11
ubot2GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)20:11
holstein[SpitfirE]: ACTUALLY, do this20:11
[SpitfirE]OK20:11
holsteinboot the machine into ubuntu20:11
[SpitfirE]Actually20:12
holstein*confirm that everything is where you think (nothing on the external, windows and ubuntu on the internal)20:12
[SpitfirE]Im 99% sure the external HDD was plugged in the first time I tried to boot it20:12
holsteinand let me know when you get that far20:12
[SpitfirE]and that i told it to install ubuntu to the external20:12
[SpitfirE]It must have been that20:12
[SpitfirE]But now I try to boot it20:13
[SpitfirE]and i get the message20:13
[SpitfirE]on a black screen20:13
[SpitfirE]Busybox v1.17.1 (Ubuntu 1:1.17.1-10ubuntu1) built-in shell(ash)20:13
holstein[SpitfirE]: take a few minutes, and confirm those things20:14
holsteinhowever you want20:14
holsteinwith a live CD or whatever20:14
holsteinfigure out where the OS's are installed20:14
[SpitfirE]So20:14
holsteinand what you want to have happen20:14
holsteinand we can do it :)20:14
[SpitfirE]You want me to leave the live CD in the tray20:14
[SpitfirE]and the external HDD20:14
[SpitfirE]and try to boot ubuntu?20:14
[SpitfirE]Righty ho.20:15
holsteinhmmm, i probably needed to give more explantation :/20:18
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johnny77I'm trying to upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10. When I click upgrade on Update Manager it asks for a password, and when I enter my password it says it's wrong. I'm using the sudo password. is that right?23:43

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