[00:53] <ibook_powerpc> Hello, I am interested in testing Ubuntu and creating bug reports. Can anyone help me?
[00:55] <ibook_powerpc> Is it possible for me to help test Ubuntu releases.
[00:59] <ibook_powerpc> Hello?
[01:01] <ibook_powerpc> how can I help find bugs in Linux?
[07:27] <pksadiq> Where do I need to file a mistake in Keyboard layout of my language?simply ubuntu bug, is it related to Ubuntu Translation team?
[07:43] <pksadiq> Where do I need to file a mistake in Keyboard layout of my language?simply ubuntu bug, is it related to Ubuntu Translation team?
[08:11] <xelister> ok so the ubuntu kernel upgrade in maverick to 2.6.38 is toasted
[08:12] <xelister> it kills dropertiary ati driver.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10854316
[08:12] <xelister> this appears unresolved problem?
[08:22] <cwillu> maverick has a 2.6.38 kernel?
[08:23] <xelister> 2.6.38-10-generic
[08:24] <xelister> Get:1 http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release.gpg [72B]
[08:24] <xelister> it would seems so, cwillu
[08:24] <cwillu> !info linux-meta maverick
[08:24] <ubot4> cwillu: Package linux-meta does not exist in maverick
[08:25] <cwillu> !info linux maverick
[08:25] <ubot4> cwillu: linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.35.28.36 (maverick), package size 5 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia all armel)
[08:25] <xelister> hm?
[08:26] <xelister> i   linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic                                          - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.38 on x86/x86_64
[08:26] <xelister> ii  linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic     2.6.38-10.44                      Linux kernel image for version 2.6.38 on x86/x86_64
[08:28] <cwillu> I'm guessing you installed it from another ppa?
[08:28] <xelister> nope...
[08:28] <xelister> wtf.
[08:28] <xelister> how to check where from it was installed?
[08:28] <cwillu> check your /etc/sources.list and /etc/sources.list.d/
[08:28] <xelister> yeah, just maveric there
[08:29] <xelister> how to verify from what repo it was installed?
[08:29] <cwillu> synaptic | origin might tell you something
[08:29] <xelister> indeed it is not in my current packages...  E: I wasn't able to locate file for the linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[08:29] <cwillu> if it's in "local", then you installed it via debs directly
[08:29] <xelister> could dpkg -i  of ati drivers pooled that kernel in?
[08:30] <cwillu> no; dpkg -i doesn't download dependencies, so unless you included it on the dpkg -i line...
[08:30] <cwillu> oh, you know what
[08:30] <cwillu> do you have -proposed enabled?
[08:31] <cwillu> if so, you really should be subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce@lists.ubuntu.com
[08:31] <xelister> yes :[
[08:31] <cwillu> so that you get lovely notices like these
[08:31]  * xelister *@&$#!%^!
[08:31] <cwillu> "Today we released another round of Linux kernel updates to
[08:31] <cwillu> lucid/maverick/natty-proposed. However, the proposed natty update
[08:31] <cwillu> (2.6.38 based kernel) was accidentally copied to lucid-proposed and
[08:31] <cwillu> maverick-proposed, and thus had been on the master archive.ubuntu.com
[08:31] <cwillu> between 09:00 and 14:00 UTC."
[08:32] <xelister> was accidentally copied to lucid-proposed ....  :don't care face:
[08:32] <cwillu> "-proposed" is for those wanting to help test updates, not just a fancy way to get things a bit quicker
[08:32]  * xelister :seriously: ???
[08:32] <cwillu> you're rapidly losing my sympathy
[08:32] <xelister> so is ubuntu ;)
[08:32] <cwillu> if you don't want things to break, don't enable proposed
[08:32] <cwillu> don't blame this on ubuntu
[08:32] <xelister> downgrading to normal kernel is possible?
[08:33] <cwillu> google for the text I pasted, you'll find instructions
[08:33] <cwillu> and then disable -proposed
[08:33] <xelister> then reinstall debian ;)
[08:33] <cwillu> "you must be this tall to use the package manager" :p
[08:34] <cwillu> what, the folks who disabled the random number generator in openssl?
[08:34] <cwillu> people make mistakes.  experimental repositories are for catching those mistakes
[08:35] <cwillu> if you enable the experimental repositories, you're going to find things break once in a while
[08:35] <cwillu> let me guess, you also use btrfs (without backups), and whine to the list when the experimental filesystem eats your data?
[08:35] <xelister> btrs was fun to do that
[08:36] <xelister> I should really stop testing new linux software other then the one I actually develop
[08:37] <xelister> *fs
[08:38] <cwillu> lol, that was you in #btrfs
[08:38] <cwillu> and in fact we had this same conversation :p
[08:48] <xelister> yeap, milions of broken things to bumb into
[08:53] <xelister> ha it literally costed me 25 usd
[08:54] <xelister> first time I can calculate production loss so detailed -> stoped bitcoin generation ;)  Anyway, funny bug good that it is resolved... so I had to look into the Natty's amd-dont-work bug a bit earlier thanks to it.  Btw, so now on 11.04 amd's fglrx does work without problems, are theses .38 patches applied tehre
[10:07] <maxb> If a bug is a real bug, but is a bug in d-i, so cannot be fixed without an image respin, is it appropriate to Won't Fix it? If so, please do so to bug 681396
[10:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 681396 in preseed (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "auto url=autoserver fetches wrong preseed file (squeeze, not maverick/natty/oneiric) (affects: 3) (heat: 20)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681396
[14:46] <jibel> pedro_, Hi
[14:47] <jibel> pedro_, I get bug 790613 on Oneiric, do you think it's accerciser's fault or a problem with the gnome transition?
[14:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 790613 in gnome-python (Debian) (and 1 other project) "accerciser crashed with AttributeError in __main__: 'module' object has no attribute 'PARAM_APP_DATADIR' (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/790613
[14:56] <pedro_> jibel, seems a packaging issue according to the upstream bug
[14:56] <pedro_> jibel, hello btw :-)
[14:57] <pedro_> jibel, lets close the accerciser task and track it at the gnome-python
[14:57] <jibel> pedro_, k
[15:01] <seb128> pedro_, what packaging issue?
[15:01] <seb128> gnome-python is deprecated anyway
[15:01] <seb128> it should not be used
[15:02] <pedro_> seb128, bug 790613
[15:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 790613 in gnome-python (Debian) (and 1 other project) "accerciser crashed with AttributeError in __main__: 'module' object has no attribute 'PARAM_APP_DATADIR' (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/790613
[15:02] <pedro_> at the upstream tracker they say it's a packaging issue
[15:03] <seb128> can you mention it on #ubuntu-desktop?
[15:03] <pedro_> done
[16:09] <bdmurray> charlie-tca: I think that's a script that makes kernel bugs confirmed fwiw
[16:09] <charlie-tca> oh
[16:10] <charlie-tca> seemed like a better answer than "this is the wrong place to demand a fix", though
[16:30] <brendand> i'm looking at nautilus bugs. looks like this bug could be considered triaged:
[16:30] <brendand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/662258
[16:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 662258 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Nautilus list view file rename text displays badly (affects: 11) (heat: 55)" [Low,Confirmed]
[16:30] <brendand> reproducible and has importance set
[17:09] <brendand> I think this bug is 'Medium' importance because it is a usability issue that does not limit the functionality of a core application:
[17:09] <brendand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/783534
[17:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 783534 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Move to Workspace have to be pressed twice (affects: 4) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:11] <pedro_> brendand, i don't think that's a nautilus issue
[17:12] <brendand> pedro_ - can i ask why?
[17:12] <brendand> pedro_ - do you reckon compiz then?
[17:13] <pedro_> brendand, cause nautilus is not a window manager, that's probably a compiz bug
[17:13] <pedro_> brendand, yup sounds like it
[17:15] <brendand> pedro_ - i'm suspecting now it only happens the first time you do it within a session. logging out to check
[17:19] <brendand> dang, now i can't reproduce it :(
[17:34] <shimi_chen> I think bug 794507 should be marked as wishlist
[17:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 794507 in ubuntu "the user can hardly notice if a printer is offline [UI bug] (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/794507
[18:38] <lifeless> bah, shimi has left
[18:39] <lifeless> they are moving bugs to launchpad that are nothing to do with Launchpad other than circumstantially
[18:39] <lifeless> :(
[20:36] <alexsn> hey guys, is there a bug with unity where super+1-9 keys doesn't work?
[20:37] <alexsn> on natty that is