[00:06] <paultag> pleia2: ♥, get better!
[00:07] <pleia2> good luck tomorrow! :)
[00:07] <pleia2> we made the weather nice today for you
[00:08] <nhandler> pleia2: Just use something like festival to have your computer speak for you ;)
[00:08] <pleia2> haha
[00:09] <pleia2> I am dragging a debian developer out of his nest and everything for this meeting :)
[00:10] <pleia2> "please sign my key" "why are you whispering?" "laryngitis" "that is suspicious, not signing!"
[00:10] <nhandler> pleia2: I'm dragging a DD to a bike ride at 1am local time to get my key signed before I head off to school ;)
[00:10] <pleia2> nice :)
[00:12] <paultag> pleia2: thanks, I'm really worried about it
[02:12] <rrnwexec> community friends, i'm creating a draft schedule for "Ubuntu Community Week".  i'm looking for "a few good community movers and shakers" to present topics on several important themes... want to present? please check out the event page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCommunityWeek and send me a note: mailto:randall@executiv.es
[02:14] <pleia2> rrnwexec: fwiw, I wouldn't recommend lernid just yet, it's under heavy development to work again on maverick and above and even when it's done people will need a PPA to install it
[02:16] <pleia2> anyway, when this event was called LoCo Days I volunteered to do a session on "working with other groups" so I'd be happy to volunteer for that again :)
[02:22] <rrnwexec> pleia2: thank you, and thank you!!
[02:26]  * nhandler added (or tried to add) a comment on the blog post
[02:27] <nhandler> rrnwexec: Do we have times for this event?
[02:28] <rrnwexec> nhandler: sessions begin hourly 16:00UTC to 19:00UTC
[02:29] <nhandler> rrnwexec: And do we have a list of requested sessions for this event?
[02:32] <rrnwexec> nhandler: i'll be sending my thoughts out shortly. i'm open to all suggestions :) ... generally though i'd be delighted to see sessions that are aimed at helping people find, create, grow and energize their local community
[02:33] <nhandler> rrnwexec: Well, I can probably do something. I'm just not sure what or when yet
[02:33] <rrnwexec> nhandler: awesome! thanks and please keep me posted.
[02:34] <nhandler> rrnwexec: Sure thing
[02:35] <mhall119> jcastro: you still awake?
[05:09] <nigelb> morning folks
[05:11] <rrnwexec> nigelb: good morning :)
[05:11] <nigelb> hey rrnwexec :)
[05:50] <jcastro> ...
[06:16] <nigelb> jcastro: ...?
[06:53] <dholbach> good morning
[07:02] <nigelb> Good morning dholbach :-)
[07:03] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[07:04] <dholbach> hola dpm
[07:05] <dpm> morning dholbach :)
[07:05] <dpm> good morning everyone
[07:06] <nigelb> hey dpm!
[07:06] <dpm> hey nigelb ;)
[07:35] <nigelb> Good morning ara :)
[07:42] <ara> morning nigelb
[09:05] <kim0> Morning
[09:43] <dpm> morning kim0
[09:43] <kim0> dpm: hey :)
[10:25] <czajkowski> morning
[12:58] <paultag> morning czajkowski
[12:58] <Pendulum> paultag: jet lag?
[12:58] <czajkowski> paultag: how'd it gp
[12:58] <czajkowski> go
[12:58] <paultag> Pendulum: nasty jet lag
[12:58] <Pendulum> :(
[12:58] <paultag> czajkowski: meeting is in 5 hours
[12:59] <czajkowski> wish my battery and charger would arrive for my laptop
[12:59] <czajkowski> all the stuff I need to do is on my tosh
[12:59] <czajkowski> paultag: best of luck
[12:59] <paultag> czajkowski: thanks!
[12:59] <paultag> czajkowski: I figure i'll wear acid wash jeans, a che t-shirt and come in with some McDonnalds
[13:00]  * czajkowski hugs popey 
[13:00] <popey> well!
[13:00] <czajkowski> your reply came in after mine
[13:00] <czajkowski> paultag: just be yourself and you'll do great
[13:02]  * Pendulum hugs paultag 
[13:02] <paultag> czajkowski: thanks :)
[13:02] <Pendulum> paultag: sending good interview vibes your way :)
[13:02]  * paultag hugs Pendulum 
[13:02] <paultag> Pendulum: thanks :)
[13:23] <mhall119> paultag: good luck
[13:23] <czajkowski> why do soclictors talk in a language that you cannot understand
[13:24] <czajkowski> they make plain english sound complex and not sure if what you said is what is written in front of you :s
[13:24] <jussi> czajkowski: ++
[13:25] <mhall119> czajkowski: I think you just answered your own question
[13:25] <czajkowski> thank feck for having a sister who is studying it to make sense for it for me
[13:25] <czajkowski> other than that I'd be lost
[13:27] <popey> Technoviking: http://twitter.com/#!/ubuntu_forums
[13:27] <popey> anything to do with forums people?
[13:29] <paultag> thanks, mhall119 :)
[13:30] <paultag> "Ubuntu Forums Web 2.0 Question Answers" ← wtf does that even mean?
[13:31] <paultag> and the links go to "ubun2.com"
[13:32] <popey> yeah
[13:58] <head_victim> I wonder if they can squeeze more ads and suck out more polish from that ubun2 site
[14:06] <JanC> I see no ads  ;)
[14:22] <head_victim> JanC: I must admit they are seemlessly hidden in the page unobtrusively ;)
[14:23] <JanC> head_victim: I use NoScript, and I suppose all ads are loaded with JavaScript nowadays...  ;)
[14:24] <head_victim> Ah fair enough I can screenshot if you'd like to see how awesomely they've been slotted in ;)
[14:25] <JanC> I could see myself by temporarily enabling JS, but I remember how sites tend to be full of ads from last time I used somebody else's computer  ;)
[15:54] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:55] <jono> hey dholbach
[15:59] <kim0> jono: hey
[15:59] <jono> hey kim0
[16:00] <jono> dholbach, kim0, jcastro, dpm about set?
[16:00] <dholbach> yep
[16:00] <jcastro> I am
[16:00] <kim0> yeah
[16:00] <dpm> jono, yep
[16:01] <jono> :-)
[16:09] <mhall119> jcastro: ping
[16:15]  * popey hugs jono
[16:15] <jono> popey, :-)
[16:30] <jcastro> dholbach: whoa!
[16:30] <jcastro> "[laney] Enable -backports in sources.list by default"
[16:30] <jcastro> !!
[16:30]  * dholbach shrugs - no idea how that is meant
[16:30] <dholbach> probably not activate it :)
[16:31] <jcastro> oh dude I get it
[16:31] <jcastro> the parent bp has it
[16:31] <jcastro> "Packages aren't taken from -backports unless explicitly requested
[16:31] <jcastro> Means enabling -backports by default is safe (so we're going to do that)"
[16:31] <jcastro> wow
[16:31] <jcastro> that's a big deal, people will really like that I think
[16:39] <JanC> hm, why not do the same with -proposed then?  ☺
[16:40] <JanC> that would make it a lot easier for users to test a proposed fix
[16:45] <vish> JanC: backports is something that is a major version update-sort and already works in the Newer releases, while proposed is just for bug fixes and more smaller changes..  so backports is more for getting the newest stuff in the older releases
[16:45] <vish> like FF
[16:46] <JanC> I know
[16:46] <vish> JanC: lot of proposed changes cause problem and dont get released.. so not ideal to enable for everyone..
[16:47] <JanC> vish: do s/backports/proposed/ in "Packages aren't taken from -backports unless explicitly requested" and that shouldn't be an issue  ;)
[16:49] <JanC> the idea would be that people could elect to install a package from -proposed, e.g. when a developer asks them to
[16:49] <vish> JanC: hehe, then it would not need to exist even, ;)   proposed is just for testing, and updates is for good patches.. what do we do with updates then? :)
[16:50] <JanC> no, you don't understand
[16:50] <vish> JanC: ah! OK.. got it now :)
[16:50] <JanC> fixes don't move from proposed to updates before they are tested  ;)
[16:50] <JanC> so somebody has to test them
[16:50] <JanC> preferable the user who saw the bug
[16:51] <JanC> which is now complicated, and often causes them to install all packages in -proposed
[16:51] <vish> JanC: yup.., but if enabled we need to set apt-pinning as well, otherwise proposed will install as a regular update
[16:51] <JanC> if we do that for -backports, we can do it for -proposed  ;)
[16:52] <popey> Yeah/26
[16:52]  * vish dint know we were doing pinning for backports :)
[16:52] <popey> bah
[16:53] <jcastro> except no thanks, I don't want to run proposed all the time
[16:53] <jcastro> I want it easy for people to use so they can test something, but I'll stick with normal -updates thanks.
[16:53] <jcastro> however if someone says "oh cool, I want a new banshee from backports" and there's a gui and it's all easy and stuff then ftw.
[16:54] <JanC> jcastro: so how is the "Packages aren't taken from -backports unless explicitly requested" implemented then?
[16:56] <vish> JanC: maybe it's presented as new package, instead of update of old version?  so someone will have to install it specifically
[16:58] <JanC> that would complicate upgrades though
[16:58] <JanC> well, can be scripted around probably
[17:31] <rrnwexec> if anyone would like to discuss possible topics for "Ubuntu Community Week" or just banter about it, i'll be here for about 30 mins :)
[17:36] <nigelb> rrnwexec: you could find some inspiring topics from the loco days event that we organized last cycle
[17:36] <head_victim> rrnwexec: nice email you sent to the list, giving those use cases were helpful in explaining the goals.
[17:37] <rrnwexec> nigelb: cool. will peruse that. thank you
[17:37] <rrnwexec> head_victim: thanks!
[17:38]  * head_victim remembers to forward it to his loco
[17:41] <rrnwexec> yes, if you have teams, or know some "movers and shakers" please do pass along the message. i'm interested in hearing from all outposts of our vast community
[17:42] <head_victim> Either way it gets people thinking about presenting or participating, both good.
[17:43] <rrnwexec> head_victim: yes, great point.
[17:44] <head_victim> I actually had some people asking me what was planned for this cycle, glad I could answer them with something now.
[17:44] <dholbach> alrightie - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow - HUGS!
[17:44] <head_victim> Cheerio dholbach
[18:46] <jcastro> <--- lunching
[18:46] <jcastro> (yes, I know it's like 2pm almost)
[18:46] <head_victim> Could be worse, I'm about to have dinner at 4am
[19:06] <jcastro> jono: Iif you have time for a call, I could use a 5 minute one
[19:08]  * nhandler thinks jcastro is feeling lonely
[19:09] <jcastro> heh
[19:09] <jcastro> oh, I think he's doing his Q+A right now
[19:10] <nhandler> jcastro: So call him up and have him put you on speaker ;)
[20:12] <jono> jcastro, sure, call now?
[20:17] <jono> jcastro, grabbing lunch, call my phone and we can talk
[21:47] <jono> doctormo, around?
[22:07] <czajkowski> win 34
[22:08] <maco> jcastro, jono: those burndown charts from lp blueprints... how do they happen?
[22:10] <maco> jono, jcastro: nevermind. apachelogger found it
[22:46] <mhall119> maco: ask cjohnston