| Captainkrtek | hey Rocket2DMn | 00:09 |
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| Rocket2DMn | hey Captainkrtek | 00:10 |
| Captainkrtek | Rocket2DMn, may I PM you? | 00:10 |
| j1mc | hi all | 00:11 |
| j1mc | Rocket2DMn: i've put together a brief listing of different help resources on the web for ubuntu. http://ubuntuone.com/p/xqu/ | 00:13 |
| j1mc | are you able to open that? | 00:13 |
| Rocket2DMn | Captainkrtek, yeah | 00:14 |
| Rocket2DMn | j1mc, yeah, it opens | 00:14 |
| j1mc | i have done that as a kind of starting point for discussions on better integrating the various help sites that we have | 00:15 |
| Captainkrtek | Rocket2DMn, PM'd | 00:16 |
| Rocket2DMn | ok j1mc , i'm trying to do a few things at once right now | 00:18 |
| Rocket2DMn | if you ping me later i'll have another look to see if i have other sites | 00:18 |
| j1mc | Rocket2DMn: no worries | 00:18 |
| j1mc | i'm preparing a note to the ML about it anyway | 00:18 |
| j1mc | have a good evening, Rocket2DMn and Captainkrtek | 00:19 |
| Captainkrtek | thanks, you too j1mc :) | 00:19 |
| Rocket2DMn | you too j1mc | 00:19 |
| MrChrisDruif | j1mc; Your Jim of the ML? | 00:20 |
| j1mc | MrChrisDruif: yes, that's me. | 00:20 |
| MrChrisDruif | Aloha :) | 00:21 |
| j1mc | MrChrisDruif: are you on the ML? If so, what's your name on there? Chris Druif? | 00:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yeah, or just Chris...don't remember :) | 00:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | I gave a the first reply on the blog | 00:22 |
| j1mc | ah, i see | 00:22 |
| Captainkrtek | mdke, are you around? | 00:22 |
| MrChrisDruif | So I'm haven't been around very long | 00:23 |
| j1mc | MrChrisDruif: no worries. welcome. | 00:23 |
| MrChrisDruif | :P I think you also rejected my membership of the docs team, because it's for teams only | 00:24 |
| j1mc | we get that a lot - a lot of people apply through there. | 00:24 |
| MrChrisDruif | I can't remember is it's mentioned somewhere properly. Might help if it did :) | 00:25 |
| j1mc | i can't blame them for being a bit confused - you have to read some detailed stuff to see that you shouldn't apply to that group. | 00:25 |
| j1mc | it is mentioned on that page, yeah. | 00:25 |
| j1mc | you don't have to look elsewhere - it's right on the page. | 00:25 |
| j1mc | there is a separate page for the docs-contributors team, though, and people can easily join that team. | 00:26 |
| j1mc | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc-contributors | 00:26 |
| j1mc | here is the team that you may have tried to join: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc | 00:26 |
| Captainkrtek | I remember when I joined :P | 00:27 |
| Captainkrtek | or tried to ;-) | 00:27 |
| MrChrisDruif | I got a friendly note attached to my rejection. I wanted to thank you for that j1mc :) | 00:28 |
| j1mc | if you have the time, take a look at this page and let me know if you can think of any docs- or help-related sites that i might have missed: http://ubuntuone.com/p/xqu/ | 00:28 |
| j1mc | MrChrisDruif: you are welcome! : ) | 00:29 |
| MrChrisDruif | There's only one side for server help? | 00:30 |
| j1mc | well, they are working on a set of cloud documentation and a an "ensemble" docs set. | 00:31 |
| j1mc | there is also various server help on the wiki, i assume. | 00:31 |
| MrChrisDruif | For desktop and server you mean? | 00:31 |
| MrChrisDruif | Just look for any app that is run from terminal ;) | 00:31 |
| Captainkrtek | MrChrisDruif, also welcome! :-) never welcomed you yet If I recall correctly | 00:31 |
| j1mc | "ensemble" is an ubuntu project related to the server/cloud | 00:31 |
| MrChrisDruif | Thanks Captainkrtek , but I never properly introduces myself on the mailing-list, so partly my fault :P | 00:32 |
| Captainkrtek | ehh ive been afk, havent been watching the ML too closely in the past weeks | 00:32 |
| Captainkrtek | very busy with work | 00:33 |
| * MrChrisDruif has too many ML's ;) | 00:33 | |
| MrChrisDruif | manpages.ubuntu.com might be something for me O:-) | 00:33 |
| MrChrisDruif | If I look at that list, I think there are TOO MANY place you might be able to find help :-/ | 00:34 |
| MrChrisDruif | And I don't know how the Manual is set up, but shouldn't it just take pages from help.ubuntu.com and /community? | 00:35 |
| MrChrisDruif | I don't know about your timezones....but at mine it's 1:37...AM | 00:37 |
| j1mc | it is 7:37 where i am, but i am normally one hour earlier (6:37pm). | 00:38 |
| j1mc | MrChrisDruif: ubuntu manual is technically an entirely separate project | 00:38 |
| MrChrisDruif | When it's not daylight savings you mean? | 00:38 |
| j1mc | their work is not hosted on canonical servers | 00:38 |
| j1mc | i included them just as a ntoe | 00:39 |
| j1mc | note | 00:39 |
| MrChrisDruif | That I understand...was set up by Benjamin if I'm not mistaken? | 00:39 |
| j1mc | that's right. | 00:40 |
| MrChrisDruif | I can also understand why they wanted to do it...so you've got a one-stop shop for all the default apps in Ubuntu | 00:41 |
| MrChrisDruif | But now we've got the situation where something might be updated in the Manual, but not on the wiki | 00:41 |
| MrChrisDruif | or help I should say | 00:42 |
| MrChrisDruif | But /me is going to bed...we'll discuss it another time :) | 00:45 |
| j1mc | take care, MrChrisDruif | 00:46 |
| j1mc | thanks for your input | 00:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yeah, just my 2c....will get to the dollar shortly ;) | 00:46 |
| j1mc | yeah - the wiki doesn't receive the dedicated and regular tending that it requires | 00:46 |
| j1mc | it is easy to write - it is more difficult to maintain | 00:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | If written properly, it doesn't need much maintaining...help pages that is | 00:47 |
| j1mc | sometimes... it depends on the topic | 00:48 |
| MrChrisDruif | True... | 00:49 |
| j1mc | all help requires a good deal of tending. but some stuff... like updating grub. those don't change as much. you're right. | 00:49 |
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