[00:09] hey Rocket2DMn [00:10] hey Captainkrtek [00:10] Rocket2DMn, may I PM you? [00:11] hi all [00:13] Rocket2DMn: i've put together a brief listing of different help resources on the web for ubuntu. http://ubuntuone.com/p/xqu/ [00:13] are you able to open that? [00:14] Captainkrtek, yeah [00:14] j1mc, yeah, it opens [00:15] i have done that as a kind of starting point for discussions on better integrating the various help sites that we have [00:16] Rocket2DMn, PM'd [00:18] ok j1mc , i'm trying to do a few things at once right now [00:18] if you ping me later i'll have another look to see if i have other sites [00:18] Rocket2DMn: no worries [00:18] i'm preparing a note to the ML about it anyway [00:19] have a good evening, Rocket2DMn and Captainkrtek [00:19] thanks, you too j1mc :) [00:19] you too j1mc [00:20] j1mc; Your Jim of the ML? [00:20] MrChrisDruif: yes, that's me. [00:21] Aloha :) [00:21] MrChrisDruif: are you on the ML? If so, what's your name on there? Chris Druif? [00:21] Yeah, or just Chris...don't remember :) [00:22] I gave a the first reply on the blog [00:22] ah, i see [00:22] mdke, are you around? [00:23] So I'm haven't been around very long [00:23] MrChrisDruif: no worries. welcome. [00:24] :P I think you also rejected my membership of the docs team, because it's for teams only [00:24] we get that a lot - a lot of people apply through there. [00:25] I can't remember is it's mentioned somewhere properly. Might help if it did :) [00:25] i can't blame them for being a bit confused - you have to read some detailed stuff to see that you shouldn't apply to that group. [00:25] it is mentioned on that page, yeah. [00:25] you don't have to look elsewhere - it's right on the page. [00:26] there is a separate page for the docs-contributors team, though, and people can easily join that team. [00:26] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc-contributors [00:26] here is the team that you may have tried to join: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc [00:27] I remember when I joined :P [00:27] or tried to ;-) [00:28] I got a friendly note attached to my rejection. I wanted to thank you for that j1mc :) [00:28] if you have the time, take a look at this page and let me know if you can think of any docs- or help-related sites that i might have missed: http://ubuntuone.com/p/xqu/ [00:29] MrChrisDruif: you are welcome! : ) [00:30] There's only one side for server help? [00:31] well, they are working on a set of cloud documentation and a an "ensemble" docs set. [00:31] there is also various server help on the wiki, i assume. [00:31] For desktop and server you mean? [00:31] Just look for any app that is run from terminal ;) [00:31] MrChrisDruif, also welcome! :-) never welcomed you yet If I recall correctly [00:31] "ensemble" is an ubuntu project related to the server/cloud [00:32] Thanks Captainkrtek , but I never properly introduces myself on the mailing-list, so partly my fault :P [00:32] ehh ive been afk, havent been watching the ML too closely in the past weeks [00:33] very busy with work [00:33] * MrChrisDruif has too many ML's ;) [00:33] manpages.ubuntu.com might be something for me O:-) [00:34] If I look at that list, I think there are TOO MANY place you might be able to find help :-/ [00:35] And I don't know how the Manual is set up, but shouldn't it just take pages from help.ubuntu.com and /community? [00:37] I don't know about your timezones....but at mine it's 1:37...AM [00:38] it is 7:37 where i am, but i am normally one hour earlier (6:37pm). [00:38] MrChrisDruif: ubuntu manual is technically an entirely separate project [00:38] When it's not daylight savings you mean? [00:38] their work is not hosted on canonical servers [00:39] i included them just as a ntoe [00:39] note [00:39] That I understand...was set up by Benjamin if I'm not mistaken? [00:40] that's right. [00:41] I can also understand why they wanted to do it...so you've got a one-stop shop for all the default apps in Ubuntu [00:41] But now we've got the situation where something might be updated in the Manual, but not on the wiki [00:42] or help I should say [00:45] But /me is going to bed...we'll discuss it another time :) [00:46] take care, MrChrisDruif [00:46] thanks for your input [00:46] Yeah, just my 2c....will get to the dollar shortly ;) [00:46] yeah - the wiki doesn't receive the dedicated and regular tending that it requires [00:46] it is easy to write - it is more difficult to maintain [00:47] If written properly, it doesn't need much maintaining...help pages that is [00:48] sometimes... it depends on the topic [00:49] True... [00:49] all help requires a good deal of tending. but some stuff... like updating grub. those don't change as much. you're right. === transitlogger is now known as apachelogger