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poolietjaalton: hello? 00:50
pooliedid you want me to try all of http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=lexical/lexical-natty.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/lp788026 or bisect through it or ...?00:51
jk-poolie: we've got you hacking the kernel now huh? :)00:54
poolieas i said on status.c.c getting away from rebuilding the kernel to work around hardware bugs is why i installed ubuntu in the first place :-P00:55
* jk- hands poolie a typewriter00:55
poolie?00:55
jk-no bugs!00:56
jk-:)00:56
poolieheh00:56
pooliei bet they do these days00:56
jburkholderhi folks02:20
melkorgood evening.  I just tried the 3.0 kernel, and my wireless doesn't work.  I'm using the ath9k drivers normally.02:59
melkorI am not so worried about it, I will just go back to my previous kernel, but I thought you might like to know.  I got warnings about missing firmware when I installed it.03:04
lamontGenerating grub.cfg ...05:09
lamont/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: raid5rec is not loaded.05:09
lamontwtf?05:09
tjaaltonpoolie: \o/05:31
poolietjaalton: :-(05:54
poolieit's better but it's not all the way05:54
pooliebut, it's better :)05:54
tjaaltonah05:56
pooliei replied05:56
pooliei'm going to stop futzing with it, unless you have things you specifically want me to test, in which case i'm happy to do that05:56
tjaaltonoh damn, I didn't read that comment05:56
tjaaltonpoolie: ok, we'll see05:57
tjaaltonpoolie: would be nice to see if some of the other commits from .39-rc1 to drm/i915 would fix these (if they are all absent in -rc3). also, could you clarify if they are regressions from .38 or not06:06
poolieso that is to say:06:07
pooliewhich of these problems are in 39-rc1? and which are in current 38?06:07
tjaaltonright06:08
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tjaaltonwell, just rc1 wouldn't cut it, there are a couple of fixes from rc2 that's included in the branch, but if you feel comfortable building kernels, then you could try cherry-picking stuff from rc1 (that touched drivers/gpu/drm/i915, ~71 commits left to test :), that would be great06:11
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poolieit's going to be hard to tell which are regressions because they're masked by the more fundamental bugs06:20
poolielike, if the external display just doesn't work, i don't get the chance to see if it doesn't work from suspend06:21
pooliebut i can try cherrypicking more stuff, probably06:21
tjaaltonah, right, of course..06:37
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ppisatimorning08:09
* apw yawns08:10
apwmoin ppisati 08:10
smbmorning08:22
apwsmb, moin08:23
aboganimorning all08:31
smbabogani, morning08:33
apw[  129.102338] wlan%d: authenticate with 00:0f:b5:b3:4c:ca (try 1)09:17
* ppisati back in 20mins10:19
* apw giggles 10:46
* smb thinks apw does think strangle sometimes... But then he can think of what he thinks of...11:06
arun_mittalhey guys i upgraded my system from 9.04 to 10.04, but now i am getting an error and i can not login to my system , error "init: rc-default main process terminated with status 127"11:24
arun_mittal any help with this !!!11:24
apwarun_mittal, that doesn't sound like a kerenel error, possibly something upstart might day11:25
apwsay11:26
apwhave you asked on #ubuntu ?11:26
amitk9.04 -> 10.04 update (is that even tested?)11:26
ogra_-neither tested nor supported11:26
apwarun_mittal, how did you do the upgrade?  direct one release to the one two later ?11:26
ogra_and likely the cause of the above11:26
arun_mittalapw, they asked me to go on ubuntu-kernel11:26
ogra_arun_mittal, tell them #ubuntu-kernel isnt a support channel next time ;)11:27
apwarun_mittal, how did you do the upgrade?  direct one release to the one two later ?11:27
arun_mittaldirect from 9.04 to 10.0411:27
arun_mittalapw, direct from 9.04 to 10.0411:27
apwok and using what commands11:28
apwcirtainly an upgrade like that isn't tested so it not working does not supprise me11:28
arun_mittalapw, apt-get upgrade11:28
apwok and that isn't the way to upgrade from one release to another either11:28
apwyou should have used upgrade manager to update via the intermediate release (for next time)11:29
ogra_whoever told you to upgrade like that should actually fix your issue ;)11:29
arun_mittalapw, before that i set sources.list to 10.04 rep11:29
Tommeharun_mittal: that's why it broke.11:29
arun_mittal:)11:29
apwand if do it by hand you would use dist-upgrade not upgrade11:29
TommehYou did something silly. ;)11:29
amitk(ouch!)11:29
apwand now you are in a huge hole11:29
apwarun_mittal, are you able to get to a prompt with working network ?11:29
arun_mittalapw,  No11:29
apwouch11:30
arun_mittalapw,  i was in middle of my work and done this shit11:30
TommehHahaha11:30
apwdo you have a livecd or bootable memory stick ?11:30
* amitk would back up my data using boot disk and reinstall11:30
TommehOr you could try booting the 10.04 livecd and see if you can fix it via a chroot.11:31
arun_mittali ahve live Cd but no cd drive :P11:31
Tommehlong-shot though.11:31
apwamitk, in theory they can do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ and it will sort out the mess11:31
apw_if_ they can get to a prompt with network11:31
arun_mittalnow i am getting a CD drive first11:31
amitkapw: true11:31
apwso once you are booted from a cd you can mount up your root, bind mount /dev into it, chroot in, mount up /sys and /proc, and then try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^11:32
apwand the trailing ^ is critical11:32
apwand then write 200 lines "i will use upgrade-manager to upgrade my system next time"11:33
smbpossibly do-release-upgrade when you don't have X (like a server)11:44
* ogra_ wonders how installing the ubuntu-desktop task would fix your upstart configuration11:50
smbogra_, It does sort of force pull in anything that desktop dependson , hope is to catch things that might got missed/not upgraded before11:52
smbmaybe a slight hope only...11:52
ogra_smb, you are still missing the 9.10 upstart version  11:52
ogra_which very likely has transition bits that are missing in the system now11:52
smbcould well be...11:53
smbI guess it could end in "backup everything or at least all /home" and do a fresh install now11:55
ogra_yeah12:01
Kanohi, could somebody fix the 32 build buils of 3.0 kernel?12:16
apwKano, why are they fialing12:39
Kanolook into the log12:39
apwyou have such a way with words, so encouraging to people who you want things from12:40
Kanoyou dont want to test the kernel?12:40
apwi don't use the mainline builds to test the kernel12:41
apwi use the ubuntu kernel to test the ubuntu kerenl, it is a more appropriate test12:41
Kanoi use u style kernel only for live mode. for testing i think mainline is better because it does not add extra patches12:41
apwapw@dm$ cat /proc/version_signature 12:42
apwUbuntu 3.0-0.1~apwv1-generic 3.0.0-rc212:42
apwthat may be true for you, for the ubuntu kernel team tesing the ubuntu kernle is clearly the most appropriate kernel to test12:42
apwlooking at why the mainline builds are not building on 32 bit is on my list, but not high on it right now12:43
apwif someone tells me whats wrong then thats a smaller job and it may get done earlier12:43
Kanodont they use the same config like your other builds?12:43
apwyes they use the same configs, thats how i know its not a conig issue12:43
amitkapw: you guys have an offline tool to mass-manipulate several LP blueprints at once?13:00
apwamitk, nothing for mnipulaitng blueprints in my toolbox sadly13:05
apwamitk, i know how to consume them, not change them13:05
amitkapw: consume them? I need something to make mass changes to a group of blueprints (subscribe a group, set milestones, priorities, etc.)13:08
amitkdunno how much of my life is wasted going through the slow web frontend13:09
apwamitk, no i don't really have that many, i think there may be launchpad lib interfaces though13:16
tgardnerapw please take a moment to review https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2011-May/015693.html so I can get it out of my inbox13:58
apwtgardner, replied, not sure the changes work mind14:05
tgardnerapw, I'm fine with that. just wanted to be sure kees was getting some attention.14:06
apwtgardner, yep guessed as much14:09
tgardnerapw, looks like I should update the chroots for m-i-t ?14:09
apwtgardner, yes please14:10
* apw watches the weather take a vile turn ... i can hardly see out the window its raining so hard14:10
apwtgardner, when i looked yesterday maverick didn't have the compiler installed, only the -base package -- meant to mention it14:12
apw(on tangerine)14:13
tgardnerapw, the cross compiler ?14:13
apwtgardner, indeed14:13
apwin natty there are two packages foo and foo-base iirc, and on maverick only the latter14:13
tgardnerapw, gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi g++-arm-linux-gnueabi14:14
tgardnerapw, those are the 2 packages that get installed for either chroot14:14
apwin maverick-i386 we have:14:15
apwii  gcc-4.5-arm-linux-gnueabi-base      4.5.1-7ubuntu1cross1.38             The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)14:15
apwand in natty we have:14:15
apwii  gcc-4.5-arm-linux-gnueabi         4.5.2-8ubuntu3cross1.47                The GNU C compiler14:15
apwii  gcc-4.5-arm-linux-gnueabi-base    4.5.2-8ubuntu3cross1.47                The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)14:15
apwand i found yesterday i could only build in the natty one ... 14:16
apw(i meant to mention it when i was talking to you about crosses then)14:16
apwtgardner, ^^14:16
tgardnerapw, (maverick-i386)rtg@tangerine:~/kteam-tools/chroot-setup$ dpkg -l|grep "gcc.*arm"14:19
tgardnerii  gcc-4.4-arm-linux-gnueabi           4.4.4-14ubuntu4                     The GNU C compiler14:19
tgardnerii  gcc-4.4-arm-linux-gnueabi-base      4.4.4-14ubuntu4                     The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)14:19
tgardnerii  gcc-4.5-arm-linux-gnueabi-base      4.5.1-7ubuntu1cross1.38             The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)14:19
tgardnerii  gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi               4:4.4.4-9                           The GNU C compiler for armel architecture14:19
tgardnerii  libgcc1-armel-cross                 1:4.5.1-7ubuntu2cross1.52           GCC support library14:19
apwtgardner, note the version numbers, 4.5 is missing14:20
tgardnerah14:20
* apw notes they have used 4 epochs on gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi !14:21
tgardnerapw, this looks like a meta package problem. lemme keep drilling.14:23
tgardnerapw, I've fixed both Maverick chroots by hand. 14:26
apwtgardner, i suspect that is why ppisati wants to use natty chroots14:26
tgardnerapw, nah, I think he's just being lazy (like the rest of us)14:34
* smb reboots14:36
ppisatitgardner: yes, i am :)14:42
ppisatii never use chroot, it'14:42
ppisati's simpler14:42
tgardnerppisati, 'echo "debuild -B -us -uc -aarmel"|schroot -c maverick-amd6414:43
tgardnerapw, the installation of the gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi meta package appears to have a generic problem. oneiric chrrots have the same version issues, only its 4.5 and 4.6 instead of 4.4 and 4.514:48
apwtgardner, interesting ... 14:49
sforsheetgardner, do you continue to pull in compat-wireless updates for as long as a given release is supported?14:50
tgardnersforshee, generally. I usually do all the updates when the next major release comes out. I started on 2.6.39 yesterday, but haven't finished it yet14:51
sforsheetgardner, so do you think we should update the rt2800 firmware in maverick/lucid/hardy so that RT307x can be supported?14:51
tgardnersforshee, as long as it doesn't create regressions for existing RT devices, though it would be hard to tell since they are all lousy.14:52
tgardnersforshee, but yes, I think its worth doing.14:53
sforsheetgardner, I have one tester who has tested existing RT devices in lucid at least and found that they work better with the newer firmware14:53
tgardnersforshee, that seems like sufficient reson then14:53
tgardnerreason*14:53
sforsheetgardner, ack14:53
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sforsheetgardner, how is wireless firmware handled in hardy? There doesn't seem to be any linux-firmware package.15:15
tgardnersforshee, IIRC its in the LBM package15:16
tgardneror the kernel.15:16
apwtgardner, ogasawara, just looking at this upload, i am wondering what the documentation and source packages should be called previously we called them -2.6, by that rules they would be come -3 ... thoughts?15:19
apwtgardner, or LUM?15:19
tgardnerapw, LUM might be it. sforshee ^^15:20
sforsheetgardner, apw: thanks, I'll dig through those and see what I find15:21
ogasawaraapw: I was thinking about it a bit, and I think going with -3.x seems more appropriate to me15:21
tgardnerapw, I think thats another of those cases where the 2 v.s. 1 digit version is gonna give us problems.15:21
apwogasawara, the downside is that we may end up with multiple version numbers on the machine if we call it 3.0, before we had just -2.6 now we'd have 3.0 and 3.115:22
tgardnerogasawara, 3.x is lexicographically inferior15:22
apwtgardner, well having 3 digits doesn't help here as we have the equivalent of the 6 in 2.6 changing15:22
apwogasawara, oh did you literally mean -3.x with a letter x ?15:23
ogasawaraapw: I didn't, but we could do that15:23
ogasawaraapw: I meant 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 ...15:23
apwogasawara, ok thats what i thought you meant first time15:23
tgardnera literal '3.x' might work as well.15:24
ogasawaraapw: indeed that does mean you would get multiple packages on the machine though, how much space do those consume?15:24
apwogasawara, looking15:26
apwogasawara, tgardner ok they are 91MB however i see they have clever conflicts replaces in them15:29
apwso that they replace each other15:29
ogasawaraapw: that's nice then, that was going to be my next question15:30
apwand indeed they are actually called l-s-2.6.38 in full so we do not need to think about those15:30
tgardnerapw, as long as we're just replacing versions, right? the package name doesn't change with ABI does it?15:30
apwthere is a small bug in our changes which prevents the bump from15:30
apwtgardner, no indeed, and actually it conflicts/replaces on a virtual name linux-source-2.6 which keeps us with just one15:31
apwand rather madly i think those actually should remain as -2.615:31
apwso that we replace ourselves correctly, ie we should conflict/replace l-s-2.6 and l-s-315:32
apwwhich will then do the right thing going forward15:32
apwtgardner, one other issue ...15:32
apwif we chose 3.0 as the package we can widen the version later to 3.0.0 as 3.0 < 3.0.0 and all is well15:32
tgardnerapw, as you've mentioned...15:33
apwhowever for the linux-meta 3.0.0.1 (3.0 + abi 0 + upload 0) it > 3.0.0.0.1 (3.0.0-0.1)15:33
apwso either way we chose we are in for issues changing them later15:33
ogasawarabah, I didn't think about meta borking like that15:33
apwogasawara, its a pain in the botty for sure15:34
apwof course we can bodge the meta to widen its 3.0 -> 3.0.0 during package generation15:35
apwbut its something to consider15:35
apwand visa-versa for that matter15:35
smbbjf, For the new lucid-ec2 package I opened bug 794420 as new tracking bug. I removed the tracking bug for the main package from the rebase logs as that seemed giving wrong leads (hope that is correct). Remind me what I have to do with the previous tracking bug for lucid-ec2? Mark it a duplicate of the new one?15:35
ubot2Launchpad bug 794420 in linux-ec2 "linux-ec2: 2.6.32-317.34 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79442015:35
apwso perhaps the logical thing to do is upload the kernel using 3.0, and meta using 3.0.0 but with a frig to drop the .015:35
apwand then when we decide for sure, we can get out of it15:36
apwtgardner, ogasawara ^^15:36
ogasawaraapw: that sounds like a good idea15:36
brendandbjf - are the going to be new -proposed kernels? are the current tracking bugs still valid?15:48
bjfbrendand, will be updating trackers soon15:48
sforsheetgardner, afaict hardy doesn't currently have any rt28xx firmware files. LUM has a ubuntu-firmware/rt2x00 directory -- do I just drop the firmware files in there?15:51
tgardnersforshee, is there a firmware directory in Hardy LBM?15:52
sforsheetgardner, yes15:52
tgardnersforshee, thats likely where it should go.15:53
apwtgardner, isn't lbm elective?  arn't be aiming these new firmwares for all users ?15:53
tgardnerapw, not necessarily. doesn't the RT driver only come through compat-wireless  in Hardy ?15:54
apwtgardner, fair point, if so then you are correct it should go with the driver15:54
tgardnersforshee, see how iwlwifi firmware is treated. the munge file changes the name so there are no conflicts.15:55
sforsheetgardner, thanks, I'll take a look at that15:55
tgardnersforshee, hardy, as usual, is a bit of an abomination.15:56
jpichedoes anyone have documentation on compiling (or installing a pre-build) a vanilla 2.6.39 or 3.0-rc kernel in natty? I'm struggling with bug 775950 and want to test if it was already fixed upstream15:58
ubot2Launchpad bug 775950 in linux "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed! upon boot (always reproducible on battery only, but sometimes on AC too)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77595015:58
brendandbjf - thanks15:58
jburkholderare you guys doing arm work on target or cross compiling packages for distribution?16:01
apwjburkholder, our packages in the archive are native built16:01
jburkholderwhat target hardware do you use?16:01
jburkholderI mean host, as in what arm platform or board?16:04
apwjburkholder, i guess when i say native, i mean on armel hardware, on a freescale board16:04
jburkholderah I see16:04
jburkholderis beagleboard usable?16:04
apwjburkholder, beagleboard is one of those that the arm people pay attnetion to, IIRC its not officially something we prioritise, but its still watched closly ... you should ask in #ubuntu-arm, the'd know better16:06
jburkholderok, thanks16:06
jburkholdergotta move to a different computer and watch the kids16:07
hggdhbjf, I do not have EC2 kernels to test for Hardy proposed16:19
hggdhbjf, as such, I am marking the QA tests done16:19
smbhggdh, For Hardy the -xen kernels would be the ones to use under ec2. But I am not sure how well that is integrated (server-team used to have some package in a ppa but the kernel config and level was the same as -xen)16:21
hggdhsmb, we need a specific image generated for the -proposed kernel; we cannot dist-upgrade16:22
hggdhsmb, Hardy does not support upgrading the kernel like the newer releases16:23
smbhggdh, Well you can but the word is not spread that much16:23
hggdh(for EC2)16:23
smbhggdh, If you take current amis from http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/hardy/current/ and the pv-grub akis from16:24
smbhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-cloud/2010-December/000466.html16:24
BenCHey guys, what's the current state of powerpc in ubuntu? I notice there's a 10.10, but no 11.0416:26
BenC(and even the 10.10 iso is too big to actually burn to a CD)16:27
BenCAnd I'm speaking more from a server standpoint than desktop16:27
hggdhsmb, I understood Hardy did not have pv-grub support 16:28
smbhggdh, Not officially. Its more thanks to lots of work by smoser 16:29
hggdhsmb, still confused... the link you provided shows AKIs for Lucid16:29
smoserhggdh, right... there is a stub /boot/grub/menu.lst there really just as an unsupported mechanism to launch with pv-grub and get its beneifits.16:30
smbhggdh, Yes, but basically those aki are not kernels but pv-grub loaders16:30
tgardnerBenC, AFAIK powerpc works in 11.04, though its mostly still community supported. Luke uses it on his old G4 I think.16:30
smoserbut i do not intend on backporting the rest of the stuff that manages that file16:30
smoserbasically the /boot/grub/menu.lst that is there just boots /vmlinuz and /initrd.img16:30
smoserso whatever those links are is what you get16:30
BenCtgardner: Ok, it looks like I'll be giving it a lot of love here soon16:30
BenCdefinitely not in the Mac area, just generic powerpc work16:31
tgardner11.04 love?16:31
smoserso the hardy dailies are good if you boot with the pv-grub loaders, but by default hey do not use them.16:31
hggdhsmoser, so I can dist-upgrade, as long as I use AKI, correct?16:31
smoseryou can, as log as you run-instances with the --kernel flag16:31
hggdhyes. Doing it now16:31
BenCtgardner: probably more for 11.10, but starting with 11.04 as a base16:37
apwBenC, sounds intereiting16:39
BenCAny if you guys happen to be going to the Freescale Technology Forum in two weeks?16:40
BenC*of16:41
tgardnerBenC, nope, Dublin in a couple of weeks16:41
apwBenC, where is it ? ... oh in that case likely we're not16:41
BenCIt's in San Antonio16:41
* amitk waves to BenC 16:42
BenCHey Amit16:42
amitktgardner: you guys get better beer than we do - we're going to cambridge in aug (skipping dublin) 16:43
bjfogasawara, apw, at a point where you want to mumble about bug scripts?16:44
tgardneramitk, bummer dude :)16:44
ogasawarabjf: sure16:44
amitkbjf: do you know of any magic to mass-modify blueprints? (like your bug tool)16:45
amitk(I already asked andy this morning)16:45
apwbjf sure ... yank me16:45
bjfamitk, i've not tried that before, so no, i'd think pitti might16:45
tgardnerbjf, I have an LBM for Natty ready with compat-wireless-2.6.39. Shall I just upload to the c-k-t PPA ? bug #79463317:10
ubot2Launchpad bug 794633 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.38 "Add compat-wireless-2.6.39" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79463317:10
bjftgardner, yes, make it so17:11
tgardnerbjf, it appears someone (i.e., sconklin) neglected to push Natty LBM 2.6.38-10.4 to the repo17:14
bjfhmmm17:14
tgardnerbjf, s'ok, I'll just skip to 10.517:14
apwpresumably that was just an abi bumper17:17
apwso you can put the missing changelog entry in17:18
tgardnerapw, yep, I noted it in the changelog17:18
ppisatiso, during a rebase, what's the procedure to get the changelog updated? fdr printchanges doesn't show anything17:18
ppisatiand the release looks correctly closed to me17:18
apwppisati, 17:18
apwyou first startnewrelease17:18
bjfppisati, how did you do your rebase? did you use the maint script?17:18
ppisatimanually17:19
ppisatiand i guess i have to use this script17:19
ppisati...17:19
apwthen commit use ubuntu-insert-changes previous-base new-base17:19
apwthen commit that as 'rebase to ...'17:19
ppisatiah ok17:19
apwhopefully thats roughtly what the script does :)17:19
bjfppetraki, you don't have to use the script, what apw said17:19
ppisatiso it's doable even manually17:19
ppisaticool17:19
bjfapw, yes, i believe so17:20
ppisatiand i've a couple pf patches too17:20
ppisatishall i shove it together with the rebase?17:20
ogasawarabjf: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/621856/ so that's what I used to use to for my launchpadlib scripts to run as different users.  you'd only have to authenticate the first time, and subsequent runs would use the stored credentials file17:20
ppisatiok17:20
ppisatinevermind17:20
ppisatii'll do a separate pull req17:20
ogasawarabjf: I've not used that in a while though so no clue if it's still valid.  And I think you had actually moved a lot of that into a lp_login class17:20
bjfppisati, also, remember to add the tracking bug, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/StableHandbook/StablePatchApplication steps 6 and 717:21
ppisatibjf: ok17:22
bjfogasawara, thanks, will look that over, think most is in the library now17:22
bjfppisati, also step #1117:22
bjfppisati, actually, everything after step #617:23
ogasawarabjf: I'll try to dig up the username and password for the kernel janitor we'd made up in case you want to use that for anything17:23
bjfogasawara, thanks17:23
apwogasawara, yeah i forgot to ask about her17:23
tgardnerapw, ogasawara: do you remember if there was a reason that the Natty meta package names were shortened from compat-wireless to cw ?17:33
tgardnerthough they are not published yet17:33
ogasawaratgardner: hrm, no idea here17:33
apwtgardner, yes the CD filenames are too long and you have to use some17:34
apwoption which makes the CDs non-standard to make them17:34
tgardnerapw, ah, OK17:34
apwi think it was 64 character overall for the .deb name17:35
ppisatii get a stack trace using create-release-tracker --staging17:38
ppisatilazr.restfulclient.errors.Unauthorized: HTTP Error 401: Unauthorized17:38
ppisatibut i authorized my box on the launchpad page that the script opens17:39
tgardnerbjf ^^17:39
bjfppisati, can you pastebin the stacktrace?17:40
ppisatiyep17:40
ppisatihttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/621874/17:41
bjflooking17:41
bjfppisati, did it give you a url to the bug it created?17:42
ppisatinope17:42
ppisatiit opened a web page17:42
ppisatiasked for permission to access my profile17:42
ppisatigave it one hour permission17:42
ppisatiand then it hanged there17:42
broderout of curiosity, does anybody know if the interface between module-init-tools and the kernel is arch-specific? i.e., could i use an arm insmod to load i386 modules into an i386 kernel (assuming i could get said insmod to run at all)?18:09
lifelessbroder: ---meeeeepppppp-----18:11
broderi'm trying to figure out whether module-init-tools can be multi-arch: foreign or needs to be multi-arch: allowed :)18:11
lifelessyeah18:12
lifelessI can see that. Still made my brain implode as I imagined a dash implementation.18:12
apwlifeless, erm, that would never make sense it hink18:19
lifelessapw: thus the brain implosion18:20
apwit seems utterly unreasonable to use a version of the tools which doesn't match the kernel18:21
broderyeah, i can buy an unreasonableness argument18:22
apwcirtainly you couldn't load a i386 kernel module into an amd64 kernel, whether an i386 modprobe could load it18:22
apwis i guess the real question18:22
broderlooking at an strace of insmod, it seems like it *might* work18:22
apwi suspect it mmaps the file and then passes the buffer to the kernel18:22
hggdhbjf, smb hardy ec2 tests run, failure on QRT test-kernel-security. I have pinged kees on -hardened. I also cannot change the status on the tracking bug18:22
broderapw: yeah, that appears to be correct18:23
apwso in theory you could do it, but it seem utterly not something you'd ever want to do18:23
apwbroder, as i am playing with m-i-t at the moment is this something i should worry about?18:23
brodermulti-arch: allowed it is, then18:23
smbhggdh, I am not utterly sure. Do we have a qrt test run without failure before and is the new one probably a newer test?18:24
broderapw: probably not. i'm trying to figure out the concrete changes that would need to be done to allow installing an arch: amd64 kernel on an i386 userland using multiarch18:24
apwbroder, oh i see, that is a valid use case of multi-arch, there i think you would want the amd64 binaries really18:25
apwthough if the 32bit ones work that is easier18:25
hggdhsmb, not to my knowledge, no hardy xen ran before (I did run a m1.large on the current yesterday, but this seems to be i386 only)18:25
apwactually given i know of people who slam on the 64bit kernel overriding the screaming alarms18:25
apwand they boot ok, i assume the 32bit modprobe does work there18:25
broderapw: right, so you'd set multi-arch: allowed in m-i-t, then in things like acpid and bluez that just depend on it for a modprobe binary, we'd change the dependency to m-i-t:any18:25
apwbroder, ^^18:25
hggdhsmb, http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-sru/home/ubuntu/sru-kernel-test/hardy-2.6.24-29.90/m1.small-i386/qrt-kernel-security.txt18:26
broderyeah, i've seen 32-bit and 64-bit work. i'm wondering if that assumption breaks down when the skew between m-i-t and the kernel is more than just bittedness18:26
broderbut i think likely not18:26
apwi t18:26
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keeshggdh: whoooa, yeah, no. CONFIG_COMPAT_VDSO _must_ stay disabled18:29
broderapw: you know, even if such a modprobe could theoretically work, you probably have no hope of bootstrapping enough binfmt-misc-related stuff to get that modprobe to work18:29
keeshggdh: if that's what /proc/version_signature shows, that's what you're running, afaik18:29
apwbroder, i suspect not18:30
apwkees, yep /proc/version_signature is burnt into the binary18:30
apwkees, you'll be glad to know: !exists CONFIG_COMPAT_VDSO | value CONFIG_COMPAT_VDSO n18:31
hggdhkees, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/621903/18:31
keesapw: yeah, that's what I thought. I was pretty sure it was impossible to build a kernel with that disabled.18:32
apwhggdh, but thats xen, arn't the domU kernels outside the domU ?18:32
keeshggdh: I don't know what to tell you; you're not running the right kernel.18:32
apwif memory serves you start a xen instance from a kernel file in the dom0 ?18:32
apwsmb, ^^ ?18:32
smbapw, gah why all people start asking at the same time18:33
apwsmb, so ignore me for a bit :)18:33
smbapw, the hardy kernel can be dom0 and domu18:33
smbbut for ec2 its domu18:33
apwsmb, but the image you boot you say like 'xen make instance using this kernel'18:33
apwso the physical binary for the kernel is 'outside' the domU image space in the dom0 image18:34
smbapw, No you can freely define what kernel you start inside domu18:34
smbit can be but does not has to18:34
apwok thansk :)18:34
hggdhin this case I ran the instances with the AKI pointed to by both smb and smoser18:35
smbwhich looks inside the disk image and boots a kernel found there18:36
apwsmb, even on hardy ?18:36
apweven on a hardy image ?18:36
hggdhwhich puts us back to the beginning. There is no -generic installed18:37
apwhggdh, anything lurking in /boot ?  seems unlikely18:37
smbapw, It depends on the image18:37
smoserhggdh, and there will not be *ever* on ec2.18:37
smoseryou want the -xen kernel on ec2.18:37
smbbut the ones from from current builds suport it18:37
smoserfor hardy18:37
apwubuntu@domU-12-31-39-16-A8-2A:~$ cat /proc/version_signature 18:37
apwUbuntu 2.6.24-4.6-generic18:37
hggdh<sigh/>18:38
apwand his domU whereever it is running is picking up an older kernel18:38
smbI'd need to see menu.lst18:38
smbon the domu18:38
smoserare you talking about hardy image?18:38
smbIT would not be generic though18:39
smbbut -xen18:39
smoserhardy ami's have a very simple menu.lst18:39
apwii  linux-image-xen     2.6.24.29.31        Real time Linux kernel image18:40
apwsmb ^^ :) i think our meta package has problems18:40
smosersee lines 250-259 at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-on-ec2/vmbuilder/automated-ec2-builds/annotate/head%3A/vmbuilder-uec-ec2-fixes18:40
smoserbasically, it wil boot whatever is at /vmlinuz18:40
smbapw, why exactly. bear with me not spotting what you mean18:41
apwhggdh, and what does /vmlinuz look like/point at18:41
smoserif you install a bad kernel, it will update the symlink, and when you reboot you'll be hosed.18:41
apwsmb, -xen -> -rt description18:41
smoserit points to the last installed kernel18:41
smbapw, Oh, probably noboday cared enough18:41
apwsmoser, thats what its supposed to point at, what does his actually point at18:41
smbapw, That would we need from hggdh 18:42
smbor acces to the domu18:43
* tgardner --> lunch18:43
hggdhsmb, I am starting a new m1.small instance18:43
apwFINALLY 3.0-rc2 mainline kernels built right18:43
hggdhsmb, smoser, apw well, a hardy current m1.small reports itself as a -generic on /proc/version_signature18:48
apwhggdh, runing on ec2? or running on uec18:49
hggdhapw, AWS EC218:49
smbHm, I have never looked close. I think I start one myself just for the fun of it18:50
* smoser is curious too18:51
smoserit *can't* be right18:51
smbI had been assuming something somewhere with xen in its name, either form the uec ppa or the custom-binary18:52
hggdhhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/621917/18:53
* smb has some deja-vu18:55
smbI think its the bodged version_signature of the xen kernel...18:55
smbIt tells you lies18:55
smbhggdh, look in dmesg18:56
apwsmb, OH now that rings a bell18:56
apwsomethign like someone has committed a version into VERSION_SIGNTURE on the xen bits18:56
apwdidn't we fix that ever?18:56
hggdhnot really sure it will help :-)18:56
hggdh[    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.24-29-xen (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 4.2.4 (Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu3)) #1 SMP Thu Apr 21 20:44:30 UTC 2011 (Ubuntu 2.6.24-4.6-generic)18:56
apwif not that is lame of us18:56
smbapw, Yeah, either that or not changing the right bits and ending up with the wrong one18:57
apwdebian/config/i386/config.generic:CONFIG_VERSION_SIGNATURE="Ubuntu 2.6.24-4.6-generic"18:57
smbapw, It is pretty lame. We should have changed it a while ago but without it hurting usually and that oteher piles... :(18:57
apwyeah look its in the damn config, that is utterly broken18:57
apwsmb, but it correctly gets fixed for non-xen18:58
apw        cat $^ | sed -e 's/.*CONFIG_VERSION_SIGNATURE.*/CONFIG_VERSION_SIGNATURE="Ubuntu $(release)-$(revision)-$*"/' > $(builddir)/build-$*/.config18:58
apwso the other build thingy must miss that step18:58
smoserok...18:58
smoserhggdh, which ami did you run?18:59
smoserlatest released version?18:59
* apw sees if he can FIX that18:59
smbIt was something only hitting that custom-binary-build18:59
smoserwait, apw you dont have anything to fix18:59
apwhggdh, that dmesg looks like a sane version18:59
smoserhggdh ran latest released version of hardy ami.18:59
apwsmoser, yeah i do, the /proc/version_signature is _wrong_18:59
smoserthat runs a kernel from a ppa18:59
smoserits crap18:59
smoserthe latest dailies use a kernel from the archive18:59
apwthe version in dmesg is right, but /proc/version_signature is not18:59
apwand i think its still broken18:59
smoserthe reason hggdh is in this excercise of frustration is so that we can release an updated ami with an archive kernel19:00
smoserwhich does not show the bug19:00
smbsmoser, actually the 2.6.24-29-xen looks like from the archive19:00
smoser$ dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-29-xen 19:00
smoserlinux-image-2.6.24-29-xen: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-29-xen19:00
smoser$ uname -r19:00
smoser2.6.24-29-xen19:00
smbI get the same running current daily with pv-grub19:00
apwsmb, do you have recent kernels in your xen setup could you see if its busted19:00
apwhggdh, yeah can you get uname -r and cat /proc/version_signature at the same time19:00
* apw best v_s is crap19:00
smbapw, It surely is still busted, cause I remember not to have fixed anything there19:00
hggdhcertainly19:00
smoserah.19:00
smosersorry.19:00
apwsmb, whars your version_sig look like19:00
apwsmoser, even19:01
smoseryeah, version_signature is foobarred19:01
smoserbut uname -r is not19:01
smosersorry, missed that.19:01
hggdhoh bloody hell, I stopped the instannce19:01
apwok ... i am sick of having this same error19:01
* hggdh starts Yet Another EC2 instance19:01
apwi am going to damn well fix it19:01
smbubuntu@domU-12-31-39-0E-A4-E2:~$ uname -a19:01
smbLinux domU-12-31-39-0E-A4-E2 2.6.24-29-xen #1 SMP Thu Apr 21 20:44:30 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux19:01
smbubuntu@domU-12-31-39-0E-A4-E2:~$ cat /proc/version_signature 19:01
smbUbuntu 2.6.24-4.6-generic19:01
smoseryeah19:01
* smoser has never looked at version_signature before19:01
smbWell apw and me did at some point, shook heads, said this needs a fix and forgot19:02
hggdhubuntu@ip-10-36-7-174:~$ uname -a && cat /proc/version_signature 19:02
hggdhLinux ip-10-36-7-174 2.6.24-29-xen #1 SMP Thu Apr 21 20:44:30 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux19:02
hggdhUbuntu 2.6.24-4.6-generic19:02
apwsmb, no we wasted several hours before realising it was ver_sig which was ass19:02
apwthen we said we should fix it, and we nearly did it again19:03
apwso i am going to fix it NOW19:03
apwso i don't waste any more of my life19:03
smoseranother reason for us to get to an archive kernel for hardy amis19:03
smoserapw, and i am willing to wait on that fix to re-release.19:03
smosersince its been quite a while since the last anyway19:03
smoserbut i'd like to have hggdh work though and see if it generally otherwise smells good.19:04
hggdhsmoser, already did -- last two lines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/kernelSRU-hardy-2.6.24-29.9019:04
smbsmoser, hggdh So currently it would probably be abi and build time as a rough indicator one has the proposed kernel19:05
hggdhsmb, that and what linux-image\* you have installed19:05
smbhggdh, right19:06
smoserhggdh, so what does that say there ?19:06
smoserFAILEd19:06
smoser?19:06
hggdhwell, yes19:07
hggdhand the logs show it19:07
hggdhbut it seems it is an error on the test script, kees knows more19:07
keessmoser: so is the hardy xen kernel built wrong for the VDSO_COMPAT?19:26
* smoser knows not of such a thing19:27
smoserbut, to re-iterate, all released Ubuntu hardy AMIs are from a ppa kernel build19:28
smoser(yuck)19:28
keesso what hggdh is testing isn't the real thing?19:28
apwkees, from a -xen i just built from the tip: CONFIG_COMPAT_VDSO=y19:28
smoserwe are trying to get to the archive build of -xen kernel19:28
smoserkees, i believe that hggdh is testing the -xen kernel from the archive... thats what we're trying to move to.19:29
keesapw: I thought it was enforced to be unset?19:29
smoserso, in regard to your question,i believe the answer is "yes, it is the real thing"19:29
apwkees, in 'modern' versions yes19:30
smbkees, I am currently running the tests again with current proposed -xen kernel19:30
apwkees, i think lucid and above, the AAs refused the update to hardy to take the build checks19:30
apwkees, but it seems that just the -xen flavour is out of kilter for this19:30
apwdebian/binary-custom.d/xen/config.i386:CONFIG_COMPAT_VDSO=y19:30
keesso we can fix that for the future?19:31
apwkees, unless its on for some reason for that flavour ?19:32
smbkees, If we make sure we do not accidentally break our builders with that19:32
apwsmb, can you recall anything about hardy xen needing COMPAT_VDSO turned on19:32
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smbapw, Not specifically19:33
smbapw, ubuntu@ip-10-2-19-128:~$ cat /proc/version_signature 19:34
smbUbuntu 2.6.24-29.90masternext201106081915-xen19:34
apwsmb, now that looks better doesn't it19:34
smbmuch19:35
apwsmb, ok i'll get that out for review19:35
smbapw, ack19:35
* jjohansen -> lunch19:40
apwsmb, smoser, patch to fix that stupid error is out for review19:47
smbkees, So yes, there are these two failures on ec2 hardy. But then I have that feeling we never really cared much there and those have been present forever. IF we want to change we need at least make sure the builders still work (using that as dom0 kernel) as well as ec2 using it as domU19:48
ogasawarabjf: looks like bug 789982 is fixed in 2.6.38.8.  Do you guys use a specific tag so you know what bug #'s to shove in the changelog?19:57
ubot2Launchpad bug 789982 in linux "SRU: Fix kswapd 100% cpu usage in common scenerios" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78998219:57
ogasawarabjf: or do you just dupe it to the stable update tracking bug?19:57
jburkholder42I'm getting someone's weather19:57
bjfogasawara, i'd just mark if fix released probably19:58
apwyeah i've tended to cut-n-paste the changelog in and fix release it myself19:58
ogasawarabjf: we haven't pulled in the 2.6.38.8 update yet as far as I can tell19:58
apwoh heh :)19:59
bjfogasawara, oh, sorry was thinking of our -819:59
tgardnerogasawara, I started on it but ran into the xhci issues19:59
bjfogasawara, yes, i guess just dupe it against the tracking bug19:59
ogasawaratgardner: did you open a tracking bug yet?20:00
tgardneryep20:00
ogasawaracool, I'll just dupe it then20:00
tgardnerbug #79370220:00
ubot2Launchpad bug 793702 in linux "Natty update to 2.6.38.8 stable release" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79370220:00
tgardnerogasawara, ^^20:02
ogasawarathanks20:02
hggdhOK. kess, smb: do we consider the hardy kernel passed or not?20:10
apwhggdh, i suspect its in flux still.  i think smb is going to test the VDSO change to see if we need t20:11
smbhggdh, kees, apw yep, I try to see whether a dom0 is ok with it (and maybe ec2 as well). But in general I would only consider a failure a fail if it ever worked before20:12
hggdhkees, smb: I am tagging it a failure then20:13
smbhggdh, Which kernel version did pass that test with hardy on ec2?20:14
apwhggdh, is this for the current proposed kernel testing ?20:14
apwas i think this has been this way forever, so i'd not think it should hold up a -propsoed release20:15
apwas the current one is just as bad, so they are no worse off with the update20:15
apwsmb, ^^20:15
* smb agrees20:15
bjfapw, hggdh, that will make it perfect, regressions for every kernel in -proposed20:15
apwbjf, wtf20:15
apwmore new regressions?20:15
hggdhapw, yes, current hardy-proposed20:17
hggdhsmb, I have no record on a m1.small before20:17
keeshggdh: if the prior hardy kernel didn't fail, it's a regression. I think it's always been this way, though for the hardy domU.20:17
hggdhkees, I will launch a -89 test on m1.small then20:18
keessmb: the two failures are the same thing. the compat vdso config results in an unrandomized vdso address20:18
apwhggdh, although this is a test failure, i think you'll find if you test whats in -updates is the same we should count the -proposed as 'good' but get high bugs filed for the failures in the test suite20:18
smbhggdh, Right, I am pretty sure those where this way all the way back20:18
apwhggdh, if you can test -updates that would be excellent20:18
hggdhapw, running it now. I will hold on, then on tagging the bug qa-testing-failed20:19
apwyeah sounds good20:20
apwbut do file bugs against hardy listing hte failures so we don't forget to fix them20:20
hggdhapw, bugs 794714 794715 reported20:31
ubot2Launchpad bug 794714 in linux "Hardy Xen DomU: /proc/version_signature wrongly reports -generic kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79471420:31
smbhggdh, actually there is already bug 79469820:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 794698 in linux "hardy custom binary kernels have incorrect version reported in /proc/version_signature" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79469820:32
hggdhsmb, heh. I will dup mine, then20:32
tgardnerbjf, Ubuntu 2.6.32-33.66-generic 2.6.32.41+drm33.1820:43
bjftgardner, cool20:43
tgardnerbjf, had some grub 1 problems. guess I should reinstall this 'ol dev box20:44
apwbjf, can you let kees know when lts-backport-natty finally gets into -proposed so he can add it to the cve tracker20:44
bjftgardner, was beginning to worry when you went away for so long20:44
bjfapw, ack20:44
* tgardner is shifting locations20:45
keesbjf: you sent mail about the workflow tool having issues at the moment. when it's back online, it'll update 788843 for promote-to-security, etc? I noticed it hadn't done that yet.20:48
bjfkees, you can update that anytime, thanks20:48
keesbjf: I didn't want to, since the workflow doc says the bot will do it.20:49
kees(i.e. step 12)20:49
keesafaict, 788843 is ready for an archive admin20:50
bjfkees, heh, i'll look, can't remember how all this is supposed to work for each step20:50
bjfkees, ok, looking into an issue with that bug20:50
keesbjf: cool, let me know if I can help20:51
tgardnerogasawara, received NICs via UPS today20:52
ogasawaratgardner: cool20:52
* bjf goes to read the wiki page on how the new process is supposed to work20:52
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apwherton, i see you pulled in the mvl-dove update for lucid, are you also doing the roll forward to maverick for that one21:06
hertonapw: nope, just bjf asked be to take mvl-dove21:08
herton*asked me21:08
bjfapw, we are finishing up what ppisati started21:08
apwherton, ok the mvl-dove lucid branch is replicated into maverick via a script21:09
bjfapw, i expect him to do the maverick 21:09
apwbjf, ok will talk to him tommorrow and get that done21:09
bjfapw, thanks21:09
bjfkees, bug 788843 is now ready (i think)21:17
ubot2Launchpad bug 788843 in linux "linux: 2.6.24-29.90 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78884321:17
=== Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan
sforsheetgardner, could you accept the appropriate nominations on bug #762987 (tyring to nominate maverick/lucid for linux-firmware and hardy for lbm, but all nominations showed up for both packages, let me know if I should have done something differently)21:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 762987 in linux-firmware "RT2870 WLAN Stick (D-Link DWA 140) not working. firmware does not support detected chipset" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76298721:40
bjfhas everyone / anyone seen http://pad.lv ?21:42
hggdhapw, smb: 2.6.24-29.89 EC2 m1.small fails the same with CONFIG_COMPAT_VDSO21:43
tgardnersforshee, done21:44
sforsheetgardner, thanks21:45
jwisforshee: since you're working on funky firmware issues right now - i think bug 597068 was merged into oneiric recently. not sure whether it really qualifies for any SRU though ...22:02
ubot2Launchpad bug 597068 in linux-firmware "Missing Myricom 10GigE firmware" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59706822:02
sforsheejwi, I'll take a look at it22:06
sforsheejwi, I see myri10ge firmware files in oneiric's linux-firmware package22:14
jwisforshee: right, afair they were merged into upstream linux-firmware just after natty had been freezed22:21
sforsheejwi, sorry, I misread your message. I thought you were saying the bug was still present in oneiric.22:23
jwisforshee: ah, no. it's really just about maybe getting the commit into natty and maverick (since that's what the bug was filed against originally). not sure if it's worth the hassle (and whether there's any testers around) though22:29
keesbjf: cool, thanks22:40
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