| ScottK | micahg: I'm not concerned about who deals with it, I just want to be able to remove boost1.42 shortly after DIF. | 00:23 |
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| micahg | ScottK: heh, ok, I'll take gnash too if no one beats me to it | 00:26 |
| micahg | ScottK: I think we'd like to remove xulrunner in the same time frame so either way it needs to be fixed :) | 00:27 |
| ScottK | Thanks | 00:29 |
| kaushal | Hi | 01:07 |
| kaushal | When is JAVA6 U26 going to be available in Ubuntu ? | 01:08 |
| kaushal | checking in again for the query | 01:19 |
| micahg | kaushal: java is in the partner repo for lucid and later, it will be available as soon as the partner devs get a chance to do it | 01:20 |
| kaushal | ok | 01:20 |
| kaushal | micahg: is there a Bug opened in Launchpad | 01:20 |
| micahg | kaushal: I don't see one | 01:21 |
| kaushal | micahg: when you say partner devs ? | 01:21 |
| kaushal | is it from canonical or community or Sun | 01:21 |
| micahg | kaushal: the devs responsible for the partner archive (Canonical) | 01:22 |
| kaushal | micahg: ok | 01:22 |
| kaushal | can i get some sort of information as and when its available ? | 01:22 |
| micahg | kaushal: you can subscribe to the appropriate $RELEASE-changes mailing list on lists.ubuntu.com | 01:23 |
| kaushal | ok | 01:23 |
| kaushal | $RELEASE-changes | 01:23 |
| kaushal | I dont see it on that list | 01:24 |
| kaushal | not sure i understand that | 01:24 |
| micahg | kaushal: i.e. lucid-changes, maverick-changes | 01:24 |
| kaushal | ok | 01:24 |
| kaushal | micahg: Thanks | 01:29 |
| kaushal | Your message was rejected | 01:40 |
| kaushal | :( | 01:40 |
| kaushal | micahg: What could be the issue ? | 01:40 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 06:53 |
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| hrw | how to request debian sync for package? | 09:35 |
| Rhonda | hrw: Not needed at the current stage of development, it happens automatically. | 09:36 |
| Rhonda | Unless you want to sync from experimental. See requestsync in ubuntu-devtools package. | 09:36 |
| Rhonda | ubuntu-dev-tools actually | 09:36 |
| hrw | Rhonda: regina-normal is at 4.6-1.1 in oneiric compare to 4.6-4 in debian | 09:36 |
| hrw | and 4.6-1.1 ftfbs | 09:37 |
| hrw | I am now checking -4 to build | 09:37 |
| Laney | if the package has Ubuntu modifications then you need to explicitly request it | 09:38 |
| Laney | after checking that they are no longer needed | 09:38 |
| Rhonda | Ah, wait | 09:38 |
| Rhonda | That's 4.6-1.1ubuntu3 | 09:38 |
| Rhonda | So it can't be synced, it requires a merge. | 09:38 |
| Rhonda | … unless all changes got incorporated, then an explicit sync request is needed explaining why the diff can get dropped | 09:38 |
| Rhonda | hrw: Please be precise, it's 4.6-1.1ubuntu3 in oneiric, not 4.6-1.1 :) | 09:39 |
| hrw | ok | 09:39 |
| hrw | so the proper way is to check ubuntuisms in package, merge/fix them, request review/sponsoring? | 09:43 |
| Rhonda | Sounds proper | 09:49 |
| hrw | thx | 09:50 |
| hrw | if ubuntu changes are not required how should I solve debian/changelog? use Debian one or merge Ubuntu one into it? | 09:50 |
| Rhonda | if they aren't required file a sync request and explain why they can get dropped | 09:51 |
| Rhonda | There's a wiki page explaining what should be in such a sync request, though "requestsync regina-normal" should get you a decent template to start with. | 09:52 |
| hrw | thx | 09:53 |
| hrw | ok. let it build and I go for a haircut in meantime | 09:53 |
| ScottK | hrw: I already requested a sync for regina-normal. | 12:23 |
| hrw | ScottK: noticed | 12:24 |
| hrw | ScottK: anyway I do not consider that time wasted - learnt few things | 12:24 |
| ScottK | Good way to look at it. | 12:24 |
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| c_korn | hello, if a debian/control file has the XSBC-Original-Maintainer field set it is included in the package's Original-Maintainer field which is then called invalid by lintian. am I doing something wrong? | 13:19 |
| Rhonda | Are you using lintian from Debian or from Ubuntu? | 13:21 |
| c_korn | ubuntu | 13:31 |
| c_korn | 2.5.0~rc2ubuntu3 | 13:31 |
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| pcpratts | hi, I am trying to make a website installer, but lintian doesn't like files in /var/www. what is the standard place to put a website to keep lintian happy? | 13:54 |
| soren | pcpratts: /usr/share, typically. | 14:08 |
| pcpratts | soren: okay thanks | 14:11 |
| pcpratts | how should I modify the apache config files? | 14:15 |
| pcpratts | I could create a parser and modify that way | 14:15 |
| pcpratts | oh wait, I remember apache has a sites-available | 14:16 |
| Pici | I could be wrong, but I think I've seen packages stick things in /etc/apache2/conf.d/ | 14:16 |
| pcpratts | yeah, phpmyadmin does that | 14:17 |
| pcpratts | but I am making a new site root | 14:17 |
| pcpratts | okay, thanks for the help. | 14:20 |
| pcpratts | hello all, I am working on lintian errors. how do I add something as a conffile? | 15:07 |
| pcpratts | is conffile a file with a newline separated list? or maybe things go in control? | 15:07 |
| cjwatson | pcpratts: man dh_installdeb | 15:12 |
| pcpratts | k, thanks | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | also http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s-config-files for policy on usage | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-conffiles.html#sE.1 for file format | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | pcpratts: ^- | 15:14 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: thanks, it is going in etc/cron and etc/init.d so I am sure the are config files | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | if it's going in /etc, debhelper should do it for you automatically, as long as you're using a sufficient debhelper compat version | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | i.e. with modern packaging it should just work, so the question is why you aren't using modern packaging :-) | 15:16 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: oh, okay. I am writing a rules file manually, and doing other stuff, is there something easier | 15:19 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: I am using some dh commands, but not everything | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | I'd need to see the full source package to advise | 15:21 |
| cjwatson | I always use /usr/share/doc/debhelper/examples/rules.tiny and customise from there as advised in 'man dh' | 15:21 |
| cjwatson | but you must be doing something pretty overly manual in order not to benefit from debhelper's conffiles default; that's been around for a long time | 15:22 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: okay, I'll take a look at that. | 15:23 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: oh haha | 15:23 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: is is pretty empty and looks like it is using make. I don't use make | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | ! | 15:24 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: this is just a php/mysql website with mostly java programs doing the backend, so I build with ant | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | debian/rules should be a makefile | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | sure, it often calls something else to do the hard work | 15:25 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: yeah, but then I just call ant | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | but not having debian/rules be a makefile is Really Really Weird. | 15:25 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: okay, okay, yeah it is a makefile, my mistake | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | can I see your source package, please? | 15:25 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: sure what parts | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | everything in debian/ | 15:26 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: how should I get it to you | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | tarball on a website? | 15:27 |
| cjwatson | or for x in debian/*; do echo "===== $x ====="; cat "$x"; done and put the output on paste.ubuntu.com | 15:28 |
| pcpratts | http://paste.ubuntu.com/621793/ | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | pcpratts: you must call dh_installinit and dh_installcron *before* dh_installdeb; normally up before dh_strip | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | the tiny rules file approach gets the ordering right for you | 15:31 |
| cjwatson | also you should not call dh_installdeb or dh_installcron in the install: target | 15:31 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: okay, yeah, I just added those last two | 15:32 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: trying to follow advice | 15:32 |
| cjwatson | and dh_installinit and dh_installcron in binary-arch probably ought to have -a options, to match the other commands there | 15:32 |
| cjwatson | fix that and it should wwork | 15:32 |
| cjwatson | *work | 15:32 |
| cjwatson | oh, also, you need to move dh_installdeb after dh_shlibdeps | 15:33 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: okay awesome. I'm trying it now | 15:34 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: I guess I didn't quite understand the tiny rules file approach | 15:34 |
| pcpratts | this is what the website looks like if anyone is interested: http://www.xanthusbase.org/ | 15:35 |
| pcpratts | any biology researcher can install the website for their bacteria that they study | 15:35 |
| cjwatson | the general idea is that you have a very short template which Does The Right Thing in general, and then you add override_* targets for any case where your package's behaviour is at all unusual | 15:35 |
| cjwatson | it saves, for example, having to remember which the correct order to call dh_* commands in is | 15:36 |
| pcpratts | yeah, okay | 15:36 |
| pcpratts | just curious, are you funded by any company? | 15:36 |
| pcpratts | I am always amazed there is someone on that can help | 15:37 |
| cjwatson | yes, I work for Canonical | 15:37 |
| pcpratts | awesome | 15:37 |
| pcpratts | if all the lintian errors are gone, is a package automatically accepted in ubuntu? | 15:38 |
| tumbleweed | no, packages need manual review by ubuntu developers to be accepted (and then another round of review by the archive admins) | 15:40 |
| pcpratts | cjwatson: okay, those errors are gone. | 15:40 |
| Laney | there's no way lintian could catch many errors | 15:40 |
| pcpratts | okay | 15:40 |
| tumbleweed | when possible, please aim new packages at Debian rather than Ubuntu, ubuntu universe has a fair number of uncared-for rotting packages, we don't want to add to them. | 15:41 |
| * tumbleweed finds myself saying this a lot at the moment, we should add an ubottu factoid | 15:42 | |
| Laney | !revu | 15:42 |
| ubottu | REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU | 15:42 |
| * tumbleweed doesn't see "deprecated" | 15:42 | |
| Laney | just checking. | 15:43 |
| pcpratts | hmm, I don't have any systems currently that run debian | 15:45 |
| pcpratts | but I will look into it, thanks | 15:45 |
| pcpratts | I have pretty standard dependencies | 15:45 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: well, the REVU wiki page starts with a big disclaimer, that's a start | 15:46 |
| * Laney s/may/will/ | 15:47 | |
| tumbleweed | yeah | 15:47 |
| pcpratts | Laney: haha, I get paid to do this | 15:47 |
| pcpratts | so I will | 15:47 |
| Laney | :-) | 15:47 |
| pcpratts | but yeah, I have other projects too | 15:47 |
| pcpratts | will have to bring another computer from home making the number on my desk equalling 8 | 15:48 |
| Laney | you can run a virtual machine or maybe in a chroot (depending on what the software is) | 15:49 |
| pcpratts | that that's true | 15:49 |
| pcpratts | I don't tend to like to work in a virtual machine | 15:49 |
| pcpratts | because lots of what I do is computationally intense | 15:50 |
| tumbleweed | !no revu is <reply> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu-specific packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU Please consider maintaining new packages in Debian rather than Ubuntu, they can be easily synced across. | 15:53 |
| Pici | !no revu is <reply> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu-specific packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU Please consider maintaining new packages in Debian rather than Ubuntu, they can be easily synced across. | 15:58 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that Pici | 15:58 |
| tumbleweed | Pici: thanks | 15:58 |
| Laney | silly bot with selective hearing | 15:59 |
| tumbleweed | I got a PM reply saying it was awaiting moderation :) | 16:00 |
| pcpratts | I have these two errors: | 16:27 |
| pcpratts | E: openmods: section-is-dh_make-template | 16:27 |
| pcpratts | E: openmods: no-copyright-file | 16:27 |
| pcpratts | but I have a copyright file | 16:28 |
| pcpratts | and I checked that I don't have any template files | 16:28 |
| Laney | run lintian --info *.changes and you'll get more information | 16:28 |
| pcpratts | okay thanks | 16:29 |
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| fabrice_sp | Hi. Does anyone see where the error is there: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/73222469/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.deal.ii_6.3.1-1.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz It builds fine in amd64 (see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deal.ii/6.3.1-1.1) | 20:19 |
| fabrice_sp | strange enough it last 4 hours in i386 before failing and 45 minutes in amd64 for full buiding..... | 20:24 |
| geser | fabrice_sp: make[1]: *** No rule to make target `common/Make.global_options'. Stop. | 20:37 |
| geser | search for "Error 2" in that log | 20:37 |
| fabrice_sp | got it! thanks geser | 20:38 |
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| pcpratts | in a deb package, I am trying to put a package in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ | 23:48 |
| pcpratts | oops, package = file | 23:48 |
| pcpratts | I see it when I open the deb with the archiver | 23:49 |
| pcpratts | but I don't see it when I install the deb | 23:49 |
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