[00:31] <fmarier> how about the "mwhudson chilts & fmarier" quiz team?
[00:32] <mwhudson> fmarier: sounds good :)
[00:38] <chilts> sounds good! :)
[00:38] <chilts> mwhudson: I thought you were a maybe?
[00:39] <mwhudson> chilts: i am getting better at making decisions, perhaps
[00:39] <chilts> you just needed a few morning coffees to help you through :)
[00:40] <mwhudson> funnily enough, i had my first proper coffee (i.e. not decaf) for a good few days this morning
[00:40] <chilts> I had a decaf this morning, but been drinking tea since
[01:01] <thumper> mwhudson: I thought you had given up?
[01:01] <thumper> mwhudson: or is coffee now a periodic thing?
[01:02] <mwhudson> thumper: not given up, just trying not to be addicted
[01:02] <mwhudson> uds drove a nail through that for a while
[02:13] <fmarier> mwhudson: how long is the withdrawal period if you go cold turkey?
[02:13] <lifeless> 2 weeks IIRC
[02:14] <mwhudson> fmarier: maybe 4-5 days?
[02:14] <mwhudson> i think it depends how much you're drinking when you quit
[02:14] <mwhudson> for me, hours 48-72 ish were the worst
[02:15] <lifeless> ah, up to a week claims instant google results
[02:15]  * ajmitch can stop with caffeine any time he wants, honest
[02:16] <mwhudson> tailing off gradually seems to work though and is a lot less unpleasant
[02:16] <mwhudson> one cup a day for a week, one cup every other day for a week, one cup every three days for the next and then stopping seems to work
[03:00] <snail> mwhudson: that solution requires three weeks of self control, and this is an addiction...
[03:06] <chilts> it took me 2.5 days to get over stopping coffeine
[03:06] <chilts> the headache on the 1st day was worst, then it was better, then fine
[03:06] <chilts> I sleep much better these days
[03:07] <ibeardslee> .. I wonder if that's why I get a headache over the weekend
[03:07] <chilts> ibeardslee: yes, that used to happen to me all the time
[03:07] <chilts> then I realised what it was
[03:07] <chilts> you probably sleep in longer, or get coffee later
[03:07] <ibeardslee> so the solution is a coffee on saturday and sunday morning
[03:07] <chilts> heh ;)
[03:16] <chilts> I hate code comments like 'File exists?', when the operation they are doing is "is readable"
[03:19] <ajmitch> & then the code explodes when it can't open the file due to permissions?
[03:22] <mwhudson> bonus points for using access(2) to do the checks
[03:36] <chilts> there are some interesting things in this code, like a global $param being stuffed all over the place
[03:37] <chilts> I also hate files which are named john.pm and have 'package Lucy;' in them ... it's very confusing
[03:38] <ibeardslee> you think that john.retard would be more appropriate?
[03:39] <chilts> indeed
[20:45] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:55] <ajmitch> morning
[21:15] <snail> morning
[22:27] <thumper> morning
[22:49] <hads> Morning
[22:53] <chilts> morning