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ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (u6657u appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY)03:29
Tm_Tdid chickadee just say they are using 5.10?06:20
CoreyTm_T: I hope not.06:22
bazhang<chickadee> i am running ubuntu 5.1    <-- yeppers06:55
ubottuIn ubottu, chickadee-afk said: how is "(user nick)-afk" a "noisy away message" ?07:08
FlannelAnyone take that ^^ yet?07:11
bazhangthe eol?07:12
Flannelno, the -afk/away conversation07:13
cdbsargh, forgot to remove this channel from autojoin08:18
mahen23ikonia: dude08:37
ikoniayes ?08:37
mahen23why do you want to piss me off in every channel?08:37
ikoniamahen23: I'm not discussing any channels in this channel other than ubuntu ones08:38
ikoniathe only thing I'm interested in in this channel is your ban/behaviour in the ubuntu channels08:38
mahen23what were you doing in ##php then?08:38
ikoniamahen23: as I said, I'm not interested in discussing other channels with you in this channel08:38
ikoniaso unless you wish to discuss your ban in the ubuntu channels, I suggest you take this discussion to another channel08:39
mahen23ikonia: oh so you come to #php do a disgusting comment about me and then here you tell me this is not the right place to talk08:39
ikoniacorrect08:39
ikoniaapart from the "disgusting comment"08:39
ikoniayour / my discussion in ##php has nothing to do with this channel, hence not discussing it in this channel08:40
mahen23well i do not want to discuss it in #php08:41
ikoniathat's fine08:41
ikoniaso unless you wish to discuss you bans within the ubuntu channel, there isn't really anything to discuss in here,08:41
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ikoniachanged that to a straight ban now, he's not going to hang around to talk/resolve and issue, he can stay banned for a while10:26
LjLehm, what *was* the issue?10:27
LjLoh that's not yami_bas10:27
LjLwhat was the issue with yami_bas_?10:27
ikoniahang on10:28
ikoniatrying to do a matlab install on a school network, wanted a walk through on his schools instructions on how to do it, refused (can't be arsed) to talk to school admin10:29
ikoniathe issue with theuser_ is just ranting about how bad ubuntu is10:29
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (ioy89oy89 appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY)15:35
ubottuIn #ubuntu-motu, tumbleweed said: !no revu is <reply> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu-specific packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU  Please consider maintaining new packages in Debian rather than Ubuntu, they can be easily synced across.15:53
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jussi!revu16:17
ubottuREVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu-specific packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU  Please consider maintaining new packages in Debian rather than Ubuntu, they can be easily synced across.16:17
Picijussi: I fixed it already16:17
jussiahh, how was I to know that :D16:17
Picijussi: thats why I told you ;)16:17
jussi:)16:17
PiciAlso, I just got confirmation from the guy whose script was doing some weird temperture reporting in #ubuntu should now be disabled.16:18
popeyjpds has arrived.. TEMPERATURE is HOT HOT HOT!16:20
popeyor something16:20
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (ssfdre40 appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY)16:22
jpdspopey: pardon?16:30
Coreymartiner5, this is a check to ensure that you're human and not a spambot: Is P=NP? <-- Wow, that raised the bar a bit...18:06
PiciLjL: ^18:06
CoreyJust saying, if you can answer that, you can claim your $1,000,000 check while you're at it. :-)18:07
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PiciHeck, if a bot could answer it would be impressive.18:08
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LjLyou can answer anything to that question and it will take it as valid :P18:09
CoreyPici: It's one of the Millenium Prize questions.18:12
CoreyIt's been unsolvable for 40 years.  There's a million dollar bounty on it.18:12
PiciYeah, which is why if a computer could solve it on its own, it would be neat.18:13
hypatiaskynet!18:13
LjL"neat" eh18:13
Pici"neat" in a "I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords" way.18:13
CoreyIf you come up with a bot that can solve that, I'll let it spew whatever it wants across the network. :-)18:14
CoreyNot that I'd have much of a choice. :-)18:14
jpdshypatia: No, MS Skype has nothing to do with this.18:14
hypatiajpds: lol18:15
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (e09h3 appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY)18:29
PiciOdd.18:44
PicioCean: for the record, I don't think you did anything wrong there.18:45
oCeanme neither18:46
* genii-around sips and thinks about 4 fingers and a thumb18:46
LjLso the thumb is not a finger?18:47
genii-aroundLjL: No18:47
LjLi'll make it accept 4 then18:47
LjLoCean: please point them here when floodbot issues arise18:47
oCeanok, sure18:48
jpdsYou guys should learn Russian where HAND AND ARM ARE THE SAME WORD: http://lingvo.yandex.ru/рука/по-английски/18:48
jpds(same for leg/foot and finger/thumb/toes).18:49
LjLwell the thumb is just a finger in italian18:50
LjLit's not that different from the rest of them ;(18:50
PiciIt is in english too, but some people feel like making a distinction18:50
jpdsPici: Sometimes distinctions are useful.18:51
jpdsFor instance: "Рука всё ещё болит." - what? Your hand or arm hurts?18:53
genii-aroundYour appendage hurts?18:56
ubottuIn ubottu, harish_ said: ps is for process19:03
Pici!scope > harish_19:03
ubottuIn ubottu, harish_ said: !bar is baz19:04
ubottuIn ubottu, harish_ said: !forget foo19:05
cordicepshi21:08
IdleOnehello cordiceps21:09
cordicepsI've been summarily banned from the #ubuntu channel, for no apparent reason.21:09
IdleOnegive me a moment to see what happened21:09
cordicepsthe op in case was ikonia or ikona.21:11
IdleOneyup, let me read the log so I can get a better idea21:11
IdleOnecordiceps: it appears you were being a little disruptive to the channel and were asked by ikonia to stop, you didn't.21:12
cordicepsall she said was to stop saying m$$, which I disagree and in no way prevents helpful advice.21:14
cordicepswhat do I have to do in order to get back?21:14
cordicepsI mean, how long is the ban and so on..21:14
IdleOneagree to not use derogatory acronyms such as M$. Makes the Linux community at large look like haters.21:15
IdleOnecordiceps: I am going to have the bot send you a couple of links. Please read them.21:16
IdleOne!guidelines > cordiceps21:17
ubottucordiceps, please see my private message21:17
cordicepsok21:17
IdleOne!codefoconduct > cordiceps21:17
IdleOne!codeofconduct > cordiceps21:17
ubottucordiceps, please see my private message21:17
IdleOnetyping fails ftw21:17
LjLcordiceps: it's not just a matter of helpful advice or not though, you need to drop the MS (or other) bashing whether you agree with the rationale or not...21:18
cordicepsok i'll try to understand this but for me m$$ is not bashing at all, is stating a fact.21:19
IdleOnewhat fact would that be?21:20
cordicepsm$$ like killing meego for one. Also m$$ has a reputiation/history of killing tech, deceptive measures, m$$ tax, the embodiment of evil itself.21:21
cordicepsthese are facts. But if a requirement is to drop m$$, I'll put up with it.21:22
hypatiacordiceps: strictly speaking, nokia killed meego :)21:22
hypatiacordiceps: the point is that that that kind of rhetoric comes off as immature and unproductive21:23
hypatiaregardless of what one's feelings about MS are21:23
LjLcordiceps: thing is, #ubuntu is not for pushing an agenda for or against any person or company21:23
cordicepspersonally I think every one should be aware of m$$ evilness, specially new-comers to linux, the most vulnerable members of the community.21:25
hypatiaGuest99360 in #ubuntu folks21:25
hypatiacordiceps: a support channel isn't the place to push that, though21:26
cordicepsyeah, I said i'll change that.21:26
LjLcordiceps: then feel free to increase awareness in #ubuntu-offtopic but #ubuntu is strictly for technical support, not for increasing awareness of anything21:26
LjLcordiceps: ok have you checked out the guidelines and CoC too?21:26
LjLmight want to have a look at these too21:26
LjL!etiquette > cordiceps21:26
ubottucordiceps, please see my private message21:26
cordicepsI do know what technical support is.21:27
LjLcordiceps: right, but the guidelines, coc and factoids aren't just there to explain what technical support is :P21:28
LjLcordiceps: i really would like you to read them and ping us when you're back from doing that21:28
cordicepswill do.21:29
LjLit's mainly to lower the chance that you have to come here again in the future, you see.21:29
cordicepsby the way, I didn't join IRC yesterday, I was before ubuntu.21:30
hypatiacordiceps: should we get off your lawn? :)21:30
cordicepsso it's somewhat ironic I am forced to read an ettiquete and conduct.21:30
IdleOnecordiceps: Ubuntu IRC channels have a higher standard expected of it's users21:30
LjLit's spelled etiquette21:30
IdleOneyou may not be used to those standards21:31
LjLyou'd know that if you had read a few ;)21:31
IdleOnethat is why we would like you to read and agree to follow the them21:31
cordicepswhen did ubuntu first established a freenode channel? I am curious now.21:31
hypatiacordiceps: /msg chanserv info #ubuntu21:31
cordicepsfirst time I used irc was in 2004 or 200321:31
IdleOne6.5 years or so ago21:31
LjLfirst time i used IRC was 199821:31
LjLif we're on a peeing contest21:32
LjLbut we're not21:32
hypatia1997!21:32
cordicepsOo21:32
IdleOne99 for me21:32
hypatiawe shold take this to offtopic21:32
LjLcordiceps: i think #ubuntu started existing in 200421:32
cordicepsis ikonia a gurl??21:34
IdleOnedoesn't really matter21:34
hypatia!women21:34
ubottuThe women and men of the Ubuntu Women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.21:34
hypatiaaw man that was not the factoid i wanted21:34
LjLit's spelled girl21:34
Pici!girls21:34
ubottuGirls exist on the internet. See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | http://www.xkcd.com/322/ | For more interesting reading: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/21:34
hypatiathanks LjL21:35
hypatiayou can stay on my lawn now <321:35
marienzhypatia: it's a pretty ok factoid though!21:35
hypatiamarienz: i agree!21:35
guntberthi can someone have an eye on rly in #ubuntu, he gets unfriendly and doesn't react nicely to a kind PM21:48
ikoniasure21:49
guntbertthx21:49
cordicepsikonia: ah lol you're here.21:50
cordicepsikonia: I wanted to apologize21:51
ikoniacordiceps: it's fine, IdleOne and LjL are sorting you out, I appreciate the message though21:51
IdleOnecordiceps: have you had enough time to read those guidelines?21:51
LjL@mark #ubuntu rly Hostile and announces/threatens ignores. Don't know whether he was technically right though, haven't checked the whole backlog.21:52
ubottuThe operation succeeded.21:52
ikoniaLjL: right/wrong, it's not the best way to deal with it21:52
cordicepsmm.. not yet, I got distracted with phoronix news :\21:52
cordicepsi'll let you know.21:53
cordicepsok this is my beef, from the Guidelines 'Many people also prefer that in-depth discussion of Microsoft and Apple software occurs in ##windows and ##mac respectively. ' yet nobody got warned or banned.22:03
cordicepsthat's funny nothing in the Guidelines applies to me22:05
LjL!windoze | cordiceps22:06
ubottucordiceps: Please don't use silly misspellings to denigrate other operating systems. It makes users of that system feel attacked and hurts Ubuntu advocacy by making the community look unreasonable.22:06
LjLcordiceps: the reason i wanted you to read the guidelines is so that you won't be banned again for other reasons.22:07
LjLcordiceps: as to other people talking about Windows not being told to stop, i'm not sure, ops don't notice everything, and maybe they were simply trying to find equivalent software or something - i really don't know about that.22:07
cordicepsalright the conduct page is common sense.22:08
cordicepsthat's it, done reading. And I already agreed refraining from saying  m$$.22:09
LjLcordiceps: what i'd like you to do know is to confirm again that you'll both avoid denigrating other operating systems / companies (or whatever) in the future, and avoid trying to "escape" that by doing silly things like m(dollar sign). in addition, if someone tells you to stop doing something, i'd like you to stop first off, then if you disagree with their request, take it to PM or, if they're an op, possibly here22:09
cordicepsroger that22:10
LjLcordiceps: ban has been removed, you can rejoin22:11
cordicepsthanks22:11
cordiceps:)22:11
LjL@mark #ubuntu-ops cordiceps Not very cooperative in resolving the issue, tried to show he's smart and stuff... But oh well, we'll see.22:12
ubottuThe operation succeeded.22:12
ikoniahello strata_22:47
strata_hi22:47
Pici?22:47
strata_apologies for that. my wifi connection dropped and i was banging on the keyboard :)22:47
strata_didnt think that got through22:48
ikoniastrata_: I removed you from #ubuntu due to the random lines you posted22:48
ikoniano problem22:48
ikoniaaccidents happen22:48
ikoniayou're welcome to leave this channel and rejoin #ubuntu22:48
strata_thanks22:48

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