[06:20] <Tm_T> did chickadee just say they are using 5.10?
[06:22] <Corey> Tm_T: I hope not.
 i am running ubuntu 5.1    <-- yeppers
[07:11] <Flannel> Anyone take that ^^ yet?
[07:12] <bazhang> the eol?
[07:13] <Flannel> no, the -afk/away conversation
[08:18] <cdbs> argh, forgot to remove this channel from autojoin
[08:37] <mahen23> ikonia: dude
[08:37] <ikonia> yes ?
[08:37] <mahen23> why do you want to piss me off in every channel?
[08:38] <ikonia> mahen23: I'm not discussing any channels in this channel other than ubuntu ones
[08:38] <ikonia> the only thing I'm interested in in this channel is your ban/behaviour in the ubuntu channels
[08:38] <mahen23> what were you doing in ##php then?
[08:38] <ikonia> mahen23: as I said, I'm not interested in discussing other channels with you in this channel
[08:39] <ikonia> so unless you wish to discuss your ban in the ubuntu channels, I suggest you take this discussion to another channel
[08:39] <mahen23> ikonia: oh so you come to #php do a disgusting comment about me and then here you tell me this is not the right place to talk
[08:39] <ikonia> correct
[08:39] <ikonia> apart from the "disgusting comment"
[08:40] <ikonia> your / my discussion in ##php has nothing to do with this channel, hence not discussing it in this channel
[08:41] <mahen23> well i do not want to discuss it in #php
[08:41] <ikonia> that's fine
[08:41] <ikonia> so unless you wish to discuss you bans within the ubuntu channel, there isn't really anything to discuss in here,
[10:26] <ikonia> changed that to a straight ban now, he's not going to hang around to talk/resolve and issue, he can stay banned for a while
[10:27] <LjL> ehm, what *was* the issue?
[10:27] <LjL> oh that's not yami_bas
[10:27] <LjL> what was the issue with yami_bas_?
[10:28] <ikonia> hang on
[10:29] <ikonia> trying to do a matlab install on a school network, wanted a walk through on his schools instructions on how to do it, refused (can't be arsed) to talk to school admin
[10:29] <ikonia> the issue with theuser_ is just ranting about how bad ubuntu is
[16:17] <jussi> !revu
[16:17] <Pici> jussi: I fixed it already
[16:17] <jussi> ahh, how was I to know that :D
[16:17] <Pici> jussi: thats why I told you ;)
[16:17] <jussi> :)
[16:18] <Pici> Also, I just got confirmation from the guy whose script was doing some weird temperture reporting in #ubuntu should now be disabled.
[16:20] <popey> jpds has arrived.. TEMPERATURE is HOT HOT HOT!
[16:20] <popey> or something
[16:30] <jpds> popey: pardon?
[18:06] <Corey> martiner5, this is a check to ensure that you're human and not a spambot: Is P=NP? <-- Wow, that raised the bar a bit...
[18:06] <Pici> LjL: ^
[18:07] <Corey> Just saying, if you can answer that, you can claim your $1,000,000 check while you're at it. :-)
[18:08] <Pici> Heck, if a bot could answer it would be impressive.
[18:09] <LjL> you can answer anything to that question and it will take it as valid :P
[18:12] <Corey> Pici: It's one of the Millenium Prize questions.
[18:12] <Corey> It's been unsolvable for 40 years.  There's a million dollar bounty on it.
[18:13] <Pici> Yeah, which is why if a computer could solve it on its own, it would be neat.
[18:13] <hypatia> skynet!
[18:13] <LjL> "neat" eh
[18:13] <Pici> "neat" in a "I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords" way.
[18:14] <Corey> If you come up with a bot that can solve that, I'll let it spew whatever it wants across the network. :-)
[18:14] <Corey> Not that I'd have much of a choice. :-)
[18:14] <jpds> hypatia: No, MS Skype has nothing to do with this.
[18:15] <hypatia> jpds: lol
[18:44] <Pici> Odd.
[18:45] <Pici> oCean: for the record, I don't think you did anything wrong there.
[18:46] <oCean> me neither
[18:46]  * genii-around sips and thinks about 4 fingers and a thumb
[18:47] <LjL> so the thumb is not a finger?
[18:47] <genii-around> LjL: No
[18:47] <LjL> i'll make it accept 4 then
[18:47] <LjL> oCean: please point them here when floodbot issues arise
[18:48] <oCean> ok, sure
[18:48] <jpds> You guys should learn Russian where HAND AND ARM ARE THE SAME WORD: http://lingvo.yandex.ru/рука/по-английски/
[18:49] <jpds> (same for leg/foot and finger/thumb/toes).
[18:50] <LjL> well the thumb is just a finger in italian
[18:50] <LjL> it's not that different from the rest of them ;(
[18:50] <Pici> It is in english too, but some people feel like making a distinction
[18:51] <jpds> Pici: Sometimes distinctions are useful.
[18:53] <jpds> For instance: "Рука всё ещё болит." - what? Your hand or arm hurts?
[18:56] <genii-around> Your appendage hurts?
[19:03] <Pici> !scope > harish_
[21:08] <cordiceps> hi
[21:09] <IdleOne> hello cordiceps
[21:09] <cordiceps> I've been summarily banned from the #ubuntu channel, for no apparent reason.
[21:09] <IdleOne> give me a moment to see what happened
[21:11] <cordiceps> the op in case was ikonia or ikona.
[21:11] <IdleOne> yup, let me read the log so I can get a better idea
[21:12] <IdleOne> cordiceps: it appears you were being a little disruptive to the channel and were asked by ikonia to stop, you didn't.
[21:14] <cordiceps> all she said was to stop saying m$$, which I disagree and in no way prevents helpful advice.
[21:14] <cordiceps> what do I have to do in order to get back?
[21:14] <cordiceps> I mean, how long is the ban and so on..
[21:15] <IdleOne> agree to not use derogatory acronyms such as M$. Makes the Linux community at large look like haters.
[21:16] <IdleOne> cordiceps: I am going to have the bot send you a couple of links. Please read them.
[21:17] <IdleOne> !guidelines > cordiceps
[21:17] <cordiceps> ok
[21:17] <IdleOne> !codefoconduct > cordiceps
[21:17] <IdleOne> !codeofconduct > cordiceps
[21:17] <IdleOne> typing fails ftw
[21:18] <LjL> cordiceps: it's not just a matter of helpful advice or not though, you need to drop the MS (or other) bashing whether you agree with the rationale or not...
[21:19] <cordiceps> ok i'll try to understand this but for me m$$ is not bashing at all, is stating a fact.
[21:20] <IdleOne> what fact would that be?
[21:21] <cordiceps> m$$ like killing meego for one. Also m$$ has a reputiation/history of killing tech, deceptive measures, m$$ tax, the embodiment of evil itself.
[21:22] <cordiceps> these are facts. But if a requirement is to drop m$$, I'll put up with it.
[21:22] <hypatia> cordiceps: strictly speaking, nokia killed meego :)
[21:23] <hypatia> cordiceps: the point is that that that kind of rhetoric comes off as immature and unproductive
[21:23] <hypatia> regardless of what one's feelings about MS are
[21:23] <LjL> cordiceps: thing is, #ubuntu is not for pushing an agenda for or against any person or company
[21:25] <cordiceps> personally I think every one should be aware of m$$ evilness, specially new-comers to linux, the most vulnerable members of the community.
[21:25] <hypatia> Guest99360 in #ubuntu folks
[21:26] <hypatia> cordiceps: a support channel isn't the place to push that, though
[21:26] <cordiceps> yeah, I said i'll change that.
[21:26] <LjL> cordiceps: then feel free to increase awareness in #ubuntu-offtopic but #ubuntu is strictly for technical support, not for increasing awareness of anything
[21:26] <LjL> cordiceps: ok have you checked out the guidelines and CoC too?
[21:26] <LjL> might want to have a look at these too
[21:26] <LjL> !etiquette > cordiceps
[21:27] <cordiceps> I do know what technical support is.
[21:28] <LjL> cordiceps: right, but the guidelines, coc and factoids aren't just there to explain what technical support is :P
[21:28] <LjL> cordiceps: i really would like you to read them and ping us when you're back from doing that
[21:29] <cordiceps> will do.
[21:29] <LjL> it's mainly to lower the chance that you have to come here again in the future, you see.
[21:30] <cordiceps> by the way, I didn't join IRC yesterday, I was before ubuntu.
[21:30] <hypatia> cordiceps: should we get off your lawn? :)
[21:30] <cordiceps> so it's somewhat ironic I am forced to read an ettiquete and conduct.
[21:30] <IdleOne> cordiceps: Ubuntu IRC channels have a higher standard expected of it's users
[21:30] <LjL> it's spelled etiquette
[21:31] <IdleOne> you may not be used to those standards
[21:31] <LjL> you'd know that if you had read a few ;)
[21:31] <IdleOne> that is why we would like you to read and agree to follow the them
[21:31] <cordiceps> when did ubuntu first established a freenode channel? I am curious now.
[21:31] <hypatia> cordiceps: /msg chanserv info #ubuntu
[21:31] <cordiceps> first time I used irc was in 2004 or 2003
[21:31] <IdleOne> 6.5 years or so ago
[21:31] <LjL> first time i used IRC was 1998
[21:32] <LjL> if we're on a peeing contest
[21:32] <LjL> but we're not
[21:32] <hypatia> 1997!
[21:32] <cordiceps> Oo
[21:32] <IdleOne> 99 for me
[21:32] <hypatia> we shold take this to offtopic
[21:32] <LjL> cordiceps: i think #ubuntu started existing in 2004
[21:34] <cordiceps> is ikonia a gurl??
[21:34] <IdleOne> doesn't really matter
[21:34] <hypatia> !women
[21:34] <hypatia> aw man that was not the factoid i wanted
[21:34] <LjL> it's spelled girl
[21:34] <Pici> !girls
[21:35] <hypatia> thanks LjL
[21:35] <hypatia> you can stay on my lawn now <3
[21:35] <marienz> hypatia: it's a pretty ok factoid though!
[21:35] <hypatia> marienz: i agree!
[21:48] <guntbert> hi can someone have an eye on rly in #ubuntu, he gets unfriendly and doesn't react nicely to a kind PM
[21:49] <ikonia> sure
[21:49] <guntbert> thx
[21:50] <cordiceps> ikonia: ah lol you're here.
[21:51] <cordiceps> ikonia: I wanted to apologize
[21:51] <ikonia> cordiceps: it's fine, IdleOne and LjL are sorting you out, I appreciate the message though
[21:51] <IdleOne> cordiceps: have you had enough time to read those guidelines?
[21:52] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu rly Hostile and announces/threatens ignores. Don't know whether he was technically right though, haven't checked the whole backlog.
[21:52] <ikonia> LjL: right/wrong, it's not the best way to deal with it
[21:52] <cordiceps> mm.. not yet, I got distracted with phoronix news :\
[21:53] <cordiceps> i'll let you know.
[22:03] <cordiceps> ok this is my beef, from the Guidelines 'Many people also prefer that in-depth discussion of Microsoft and Apple software occurs in ##windows and ##mac respectively. ' yet nobody got warned or banned.
[22:05] <cordiceps> that's funny nothing in the Guidelines applies to me
[22:06] <LjL> !windoze | cordiceps
[22:07] <LjL> cordiceps: the reason i wanted you to read the guidelines is so that you won't be banned again for other reasons.
[22:07] <LjL> cordiceps: as to other people talking about Windows not being told to stop, i'm not sure, ops don't notice everything, and maybe they were simply trying to find equivalent software or something - i really don't know about that.
[22:08] <cordiceps> alright the conduct page is common sense.
[22:09] <cordiceps> that's it, done reading. And I already agreed refraining from saying  m$$.
[22:09] <LjL> cordiceps: what i'd like you to do know is to confirm again that you'll both avoid denigrating other operating systems / companies (or whatever) in the future, and avoid trying to "escape" that by doing silly things like m(dollar sign). in addition, if someone tells you to stop doing something, i'd like you to stop first off, then if you disagree with their request, take it to PM or, if they're an op, possibly here
[22:10] <cordiceps> roger that
[22:11] <LjL> cordiceps: ban has been removed, you can rejoin
[22:11] <cordiceps> thanks
[22:11] <cordiceps> :)
[22:12] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops cordiceps Not very cooperative in resolving the issue, tried to show he's smart and stuff... But oh well, we'll see.
[22:47] <ikonia> hello strata_
[22:47] <strata_> hi
[22:47] <Pici> ?
[22:47] <strata_> apologies for that. my wifi connection dropped and i was banging on the keyboard :)
[22:48] <strata_> didnt think that got through
[22:48] <ikonia> strata_: I removed you from #ubuntu due to the random lines you posted
[22:48] <ikonia> no problem
[22:48] <ikonia> accidents happen
[22:48] <ikonia> you're welcome to leave this channel and rejoin #ubuntu
[22:48] <strata_> thanks