| snap-l | Man, I'm listening to WDET talking about the city of Detroit | 00:22 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | that's a mistake | 00:22 |
| snap-l | Talk about a fucked city. | 00:22 |
| snap-l | There's no money, and they're fighting over what little is left. | 00:23 |
| snap-l | And it's all more corrupt than a third-world nation | 00:24 |
| snap-l | Um, this is weird. | 00:27 |
| snap-l | Soundjuicer doesn't show a launcher icon | 00:28 |
| rick_h_ | so the wife isn't warm to the idea of moving to seattle | 01:44 |
| snap-l | Could've told you that. | 01:48 |
| rick_h_ | but do see a seattle job on python job board | 01:51 |
| rick_h_ | though there is a google office there it looks like | 01:53 |
| greg-g | score. I'm on the roof of the porch with the laptop. *much* cooler out here | 02:13 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: awesome! | 02:29 |
| rick_h_ | cooler is better | 02:29 |
| rick_h_ | i need a non code book to read...hmmm... | 02:30 |
| devinheitmueller | I wish I had a porch. My apartment is stinking hot. | 02:30 |
| greg-g | yeah, we don't have the porch, just the roof to the porch :) | 02:34 |
| greg-g | second story apartment and all | 02:34 |
| devinheitmueller | ah | 02:34 |
| rick_h_ | less buggy up high, good stuff | 02:34 |
| slapshot | Yoooo | 02:46 |
| slapshot | ? | 02:47 |
| rick_h_ | ...name not found | 02:48 |
| slapshot | what name | 02:49 |
| rick_h_ | Yoooo :) | 02:50 |
| slapshot | yooo | 02:50 |
| slapshot | you like dank? | 02:50 |
| rick_h_ | speaking greek to me | 02:50 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: less buggy, but still kinda buggy :) | 02:59 |
| rick_h_ | yea, we have misquito issues, but have found that 2nd story helps a ton | 03:00 |
| widox | rick_h_ does that tagbar plugin work in console vim? | 03:21 |
| widox | the screenshots all look to be in gvim | 03:21 |
| snap-l | Running backups on my machine now. :) | 03:22 |
| snap-l | And yes, it's hot as hell out there | 03:22 |
| snap-l | I've got the air conditioning on | 03:22 |
| snap-l | man, run two rsyncs, and watch everything burn | 03:23 |
| widox | I finally put in my window unit in the bedroom so we can sleep tonight | 03:23 |
| snap-l | Yeah, we did that last week | 03:24 |
| * widox doesn't have central ac | 03:24 | |
| snap-l | Neither do we | 03:24 |
| Blazeix | heh: http://twitter.com/#!/gortok/status/76647922065883136 | 03:28 |
| rick_h_ | widox: not tried it yet | 03:29 |
| Blazeix | that first link blows my mind | 03:29 |
| rick_h_ | looks lke it's cool | 03:29 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: ruh roh | 03:30 |
| rick_h_ | https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/feature%2Fauth/bookie/models/auth.py#L65 if anyone wants me to do anything different lol | 03:31 |
| snap-l | Oh dear god | 03:32 |
| rick_h_ | I see those things Blazeix and then cry because I know how work does things | 03:32 |
| rick_h_ | and I've pushed for them to fix it, but hasn't happened on several apps | 03:32 |
| rick_h_ | I mean, one app, the usernames are $level_$id | 03:33 |
| rick_h_ | and $id == the password | 03:33 |
| rick_h_ | "but it's ip limited to only their network space..." :( | 03:33 |
| widox | haha, those are some awesome functions in that pastbin... :-/ | 03:33 |
| snap-l | But but but... I replaced ; with '', so it should't run | 03:33 |
| rick_h_ | any time you see " secureSuperGlobalPOST" you know you're doomed | 03:34 |
| snap-l | The third link is precious too | 03:35 |
| rick_h_ | yea, so glad there's a mad rush to md5 | 03:35 |
| rick_h_ | yay for the base64 of our day | 03:35 |
| snap-l | I'm just waiting for the rot13 and md5sum security | 03:36 |
| snap-l | Good night, everyone. See you tomorrow. | 04:51 |
| snap-l | Why does this frighten me? https://identi.ca/notice/75739526 | 12:49 |
| snap-l | http://identi.ca/group/rantofabkuhn | 12:50 |
| brousch | afraid of competition? | 12:52 |
| snap-l | hardly | 12:52 |
| snap-l | Different goals, and it seems they're not ranting about FLOSS | 12:53 |
| snap-l | This is what the difference between the Ubuntu Conucil and the JCP is in a nutshell: https://identi.ca/notice/75742081 | 12:58 |
| rick_h_ | ouch, that's a scary podcast | 12:59 |
| brousch | snap-l: nice, link us to your identica post that links to the article | 13:01 |
| brousch | you're a real slashdotter | 13:01 |
| rick_h_ | hah, publicity artist at his best | 13:01 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I need to monetize my identi.ca. ;) | 13:02 |
| greg-g | uh oh, this guy started following me on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/Piracy_Patrol | 13:14 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g! I never thought you'd be a wrong doer like that | 13:15 |
| * greg-g hangs head | 13:16 | |
| greg-g | I'm guessing it was because of the court case I tweeted yesterday | 13:16 |
| brousch | you have angered the man. now he is tracking your every tweet | 13:21 |
| brousch | can you feel the spy satellite looking through your window? | 13:22 |
| greg-g | luckily, the angle I have of the window goes directly towards another building that is very close (20 feet) away, so the satellites can't see me. but if I peak my head around like this....... then they can see me. | 13:25 |
| brousch | reflections | 13:34 |
| brousch | they can take a 1" reflection of you from a window across the street and watch. don't you watch CSI or NCIS? | 13:34 |
| greg-g | "enhance that image. enhance it again. and again. and again." Turning that 4 pixel area into the resolution of a widscreen LCD. | 13:35 |
| brousch | snap-l: how's natty treating you now that you've got a fresh install? | 13:39 |
| rick_h_ | man, I am dragging today...ugh | 13:42 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: yea, we should do a lococast before you calm down too much :P | 13:43 |
| snap-l | Well, Natty is OK, but there's a lot of rough edges | 13:53 |
| snap-l | "As of today, we have killed 1.75 million files containing our client's content. #copyright www.piracypatrol.com" | 13:54 |
| snap-l | hopefully they got some of the originals too | 13:54 |
| snap-l | I've had to change how I use my machine | 13:55 |
| snap-l | Oh, and upgrading? Yeah... I'd recommend not doing that. | 13:55 |
| snap-l | Reinstall | 13:55 |
| snap-l | At least, not if you're going from LTS to 11.04 | 13:56 |
| rick_h_ | that sounds so familiar | 13:58 |
| snap-l | I even went so far as to trash my home directory and just copy over what I needed | 14:00 |
| snap-l | though that's mostly because certain apps were acting wonky (banshee apparently doesn't behave well when you delete a bunch of files) | 14:00 |
| brousch | i love that armin ronacher (flask) is at djangocon europe. he is providing much material for me | 14:00 |
| snap-l | (who knew?) | 14:00 |
| snap-l | Ugh, it's already 86 in this room | 14:01 |
| rick_h_ | ouch | 14:01 |
| snap-l | and it's not even 9am | 14:01 |
| brousch | AC | 14:01 |
| rick_h_ | basement time here for sure | 14:02 |
| brousch | what are you, Dutch? turn on the air! | 14:02 |
| snap-l | brousch: Air is in... in the bedroom | 14:02 |
| snap-l | not the computer room. :) | 14:02 |
| rick_h_ | laptops ftw | 14:02 |
| * rick_h_ is chillin in the recliner with pandora on the roku going | 14:03 | |
| snap-l | you guys are just full of answers. ;) | 14:03 |
| snap-l | s/answers/shit/ ;) | 14:03 |
| brousch | i would not want to work from home without AC | 14:05 |
| rick_h_ | tomorrow high 82 | 14:06 |
| rick_h_ | should be more reasonable | 14:06 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: started to try to get to seattle | 14:06 |
| rick_h_ | wife isn't warming up to it, but checked out and there's a google office hiring out there | 14:06 |
| rick_h_ | more important to find work for her though | 14:06 |
| rick_h_ | maybe I'd apply for those canonical jobs and do the fulltime remote again | 14:07 |
| brousch | i think there's a big software company in seattle | 14:08 |
| brousch | did you see if they're hiring? | 14:08 |
| rick_h_ | man, good looking weekend coming | 14:09 |
| rick_h_ | 71, 77, 75 | 14:09 |
| brousch | rick_h_: i would also like to draw your attention to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco#Climate | 14:09 |
| rick_h_ | I'm not cool enough to be in CA | 14:10 |
| snap-l | Good morning, Wolfger | 14:14 |
| * snap-l is glad he bought some CDs from Bandcamp, because unfortunately you can't re-download albums after a certain period | 14:15 | |
| Wolfger | not really it isn't :-/ | 14:16 |
| Wolfger | but at least I'm back in the good ol' USA :-) | 14:16 |
| jjesse | anyone play with google music yet? trying to understand why i would want google music instead of amazon music | 14:36 |
| rick_h_ | jjesse: nope, no interest. Can't buy music so not interested | 14:37 |
| jjesse | theres some free music to start you out with that you can stream, then you upload all your music to them | 14:37 |
| jjesse | and i doubt there is a *nix friendly version of the uploaded | 14:37 |
| jjesse | uploader | 14:38 |
| snap-l | I guess my big question about that is since I rip to FLAC, how much space is available? | 14:38 |
| rick_h_ | there was a ppa of a wine packaged uploader | 14:38 |
| snap-l | and does it support FLAC? | 14:38 |
| rick_h_ | 20k songs | 14:38 |
| rick_h_ | not sure on flac | 14:38 |
| jjesse | but if i buy an album w/ amazon i get 20gigs of cloud storage for amazon music | 14:38 |
| rick_h_ | right, but that's not promised for next year | 14:38 |
| rick_h_ | coule be initial offer, but who knows | 14:39 |
| jjesse | so i upload my music to either google/amazon/apple or Ubuntu One | 14:41 |
| rick_h_ | yes | 14:42 |
| rick_h_ | but apple doesn't have streaming | 14:42 |
| rick_h_ | it does 'sycning' | 14:42 |
| rick_h_ | http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-20069418-12.html | 14:42 |
| brousch | snap-l: looks like natty's not the only problem upgrade: mitsuhiko 9:34am via Echofon: When upgrading to iOS5, make sure to do backups. Lost a month of contact's worth | 14:47 |
| snap-l | Oh that's brilliant | 14:47 |
| greg-g | gamerchick02: dude, totally do an Ubuntu Hour up there with Matt! | 15:16 |
| snap-l | gamerchick02: Also, congrats on the interview! | 15:16 |
| greg-g | yeah, ditto on that too | 15:17 |
| rick_h_ | madison heights eh? That's awful close to CHC land :) | 15:17 |
| snap-l | I wish bands would make it easier for me to give them money for their album | 15:17 |
| snap-l | Trying to find a link, download, or God-knows-what for MIND:|:SHREDDER | 15:17 |
| gamerchick02 | :) | 15:18 |
| gamerchick02 | thanks! | 15:18 |
| gamerchick02 | AND, my internet was turned ON this morning!!! | 15:18 |
| gamerchick02 | *happydance* | 15:18 |
| gamerchick02 | *boogie down* | 15:18 |
| gamerchick02 | CHC, rick_h_? | 15:18 |
| snap-l | gamerchick02: What the hell was with that? | 15:18 |
| greg-g | CHC == CoffeeHouseCoders | 15:19 |
| snap-l | I've never heard of an ISP taking 12 days to get internet reconnected. | 15:19 |
| rick_h_ | coffeehousecoders | 15:19 |
| gamerchick02 | AT&T shut off our phone for no reason | 15:19 |
| gamerchick02 | earthlink shut off our internet due to no dialtone | 15:19 |
| rick_h_ | sorry, UH:CHC now | 15:19 |
| gamerchick02 | earthlink has been trying to get us back online, but AT&T was blocking their setup. | 15:19 |
| greg-g | lame | 15:19 |
| gamerchick02 | i think my friend Zack talked to his sister, she kicked some union ass, and they put the order through | 15:20 |
| gamerchick02 | because Earthlink has to get AT&T to release the line for DSL | 15:20 |
| gamerchick02 | Zack's sister works for AT&T. | 15:20 |
| gamerchick02 | thanks, greg-g and rick_h_. | 15:20 |
| gamerchick02 | CHC would be fun to attend | 15:20 |
| rick_h_ | good interview: http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2011/06/07/whats-your-start-up-bus-count-7-myths-of-entrepreneurship-and-programming/ | 15:25 |
| gamerchick02 | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/system76-serval-professional-review massive review from the OMG!Ubuntu guys of the Serval Pro. not sure if everyone has seen this or not already. i'm a little late. *ahem* | 15:29 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: I like it | 15:31 |
| gamerchick02 | the interview or the review, greg-g? | 15:32 |
| greg-g | the interview | 15:37 |
| gamerchick02 | oh. i'm catching up on articles that i haven't had a chance to read. i'll get to it... | 15:38 |
| brousch | what's the correct way to check if a list has something at a certain index? if list[2]: do_stuff | 15:39 |
| brousch | that gives a key error if the index doesn't exist. do i really have to wrap this in a try except? | 15:40 |
| rick_h_ | if len(list) >= X? | 15:40 |
| brousch | well, i'm actually grabbing from the end of the list | 15:41 |
| snap-l | try: except? | 15:41 |
| rick_h_ | huh? they're sequential | 15:41 |
| snap-l | Do you care what the index is? | 15:41 |
| rick_h_ | the list is either longer than your idx or not | 15:41 |
| snap-l | or just the contents of the end of the list? | 15:41 |
| brousch | i have a list and want the last 3 items, but sometimes there's only 1 item in the list | 15:41 |
| snap-l | I'd use pop | 15:41 |
| snap-l | with a try / except | 15:41 |
| rick_h_ | if len(list) >= abs(idx) | 15:41 |
| rick_h_ | if you're doing idx == -3 or someting | 15:42 |
| brousch | ah, i see | 15:43 |
| brousch | getting them from the end was messing with my head | 15:43 |
| rick_h_ | cool | 15:43 |
| snap-l | Are you treating this like a queue? | 15:44 |
| snap-l | or a stack? | 15:44 |
| brousch | a list | 15:48 |
| brousch | appending items to it, but not really removing them | 15:48 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 15:48 |
| rick_h_ | using a list as a list?! how dare you! | 15:49 |
| brousch | i realized my data is so small i can stick it in a list instead of a real database | 15:49 |
| snap-l | why not use append? | 15:49 |
| brousch | i do use append | 15:49 |
| snap-l | OK... | 15:50 |
| brousch | but i really only care about the 3 newest ones | 15:50 |
| brousch | until one of them goes bad, then i'll remove it | 15:50 |
| snap-l | Ah, OK | 15:51 |
| snap-l | Whenever I see something where someone is using the end of a list for something, I start wondering if they're trying to implement a stack or queue or ... | 15:52 |
| * snap-l better get out his "jump to conclusions mat" | 15:52 | |
| snap-l | Anyone know of a way to get SoundJuicer / Banshee to do local lookups for CDDB? | 15:56 |
| gamerchick02 | change the database location? | 15:56 |
| Wolfger | Sheesh... watch out for flying bears, now. http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/08/2-people-die-as-bear-flies-through-suv/?hpt=hp_t2 | 16:42 |
| snap-l | OK< I did not see that coming. | 16:46 |
| binbrain | wolfger: I love that in the article they mentioned that no alcohol or drugs were involved | 17:01 |
| rick_h_ | man, porting to postgrs is a lesson on the absolute crap sqlite/mysql let you get away with | 17:04 |
| brousch | it's not crap if it works. it's fertalizer! | 17:07 |
| Wolfger | binbrain: I'm wondering if they tested the bear... | 17:14 |
| snap-l | Why is MusicBrainz so impenetrable? | 17:50 |
| === DBO is now known as DBOut | ||
| brousch | snap-l: the z on the end should have tipped you off | 18:01 |
| greg-g | have you ever met/seen the guy who started MusicBrainz? | 18:10 |
| greg-g | I'll let you guess which one of these Robert Kayes he is: http://images.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1680&bih=962&q=Robert+Kaye | 18:12 |
| brousch | the one with the nice ass and the red skirt? | 18:14 |
| snap-l | I'm sure he's the one with the shaved head art | 18:28 |
| snap-l | I think it's a neat concept, but damn if it isn't frustrating as hell to get info in and or out of it | 18:28 |
| snap-l | doing my part by trying to update the indo | 18:29 |
| snap-l | info, even | 18:29 |
| snap-l | But it's a real hassle | 18:29 |
| snap-l | If Banshee doesn't have the right disc ID, it'll just bomb out | 18:32 |
| brousch | i think CHC/UH is about to fire up in GR | 18:33 |
| snap-l | even though all of the results are the same damn album from Picard. | 18:33 |
| brousch | jean luc? | 18:33 |
| snap-l | No, the music brainz lookup program | 18:34 |
| snap-l | Which, incidentally, is the only way to do any lookups of CD IDs | 18:34 |
| snap-l | But, I'm sure like most OSS things, my right to bitch is directly proportional to how far my sleeves are rolled up. :) | 18:39 |
| snap-l | ARGH! http://musicbrainz.org/cdtoc/cfw1kqALZW8hKA7bvh1womooApk- | 18:52 |
| snap-l | Something tells me Banshee can't handle multiple releases | 18:54 |
| brousch | what about it? | 18:54 |
| snap-l | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110531/00303814468/dubious-record-label-insists-it-has-patent-pending-method-to-guarantee-platinum-selling-album.shtml | 19:34 |
| snap-l | Wasn't the schmoo at CHC selling Zer01 VOIP? | 19:34 |
| snap-l | Or was that something else? | 19:34 |
| brousch | schmoo? | 19:35 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: no idea | 19:36 |
| rick_h_ | I tried hard ot block it all out | 19:36 |
| brousch | rick_h_: you follow ossmichigan rss feed? | 19:47 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea | 19:47 |
| brousch | hm, wait, these came from decafbad, isn't that snap-l? | 19:48 |
| rick_h_ | no | 19:48 |
| rick_h_ | lmorchord | 19:48 |
| brousch | a couple of old posts about delicious popped up there | 19:48 |
| rick_h_ | https://twitter.com/#!/lmorchard | 19:49 |
| rick_h_ | yea, he's the guy that gave me the massive.xml for testing | 19:49 |
| rick_h_ | 16k bookmarks and 7k tags | 19:49 |
| brousch | ok | 19:49 |
| snap-l | Yeah, decafbad.com is lmorchard. | 19:53 |
| brousch | ignore me. he must've changed something so the ossmichigan planet reposted his stuff. | 19:53 |
| rick_h_ | yea, he's been updating his block to jeckell | 19:54 |
| rick_h_ | or whatever it is | 19:54 |
| brousch | these posts are from december | 19:54 |
| snap-l | OK, I have a quick quiz for everyone here | 21:19 |
| snap-l | this is a 30 second quiz. No fair googling | 21:19 |
| snap-l | 30 seconds begins after I post the question. | 21:19 |
| snap-l | ready? | 21:19 |
| snap-l | What's the command for the Disk Utility that ships with Ubuntu. | 21:20 |
| snap-l | Time's UP! | 21:20 |
| snap-l | Pencils down | 21:20 |
| snap-l | If you guessed palimpsest, you are correct. | 21:21 |
| Blazeix | I was going to guess 'du'... | 21:21 |
| Blazeix | or maybe df | 21:21 |
| snap-l | Well, considering those actually have "disk" somewhere in the name, that would make sense. | 21:22 |
| snap-l | "A palimpsest is a manuscript page from a scroll or book from which the text has been scraped off and which can be used again. " | 21:22 |
| Blazeix | alias blimpiset=palimpsest | 21:23 |
| snap-l | Now, granted, I do like it when a command teaches me something about the world we live in | 21:24 |
| snap-l | but not when I'm trying to figure out what said command is. ;) | 21:25 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: what happened to boabab? | 22:21 |
| rick_h_ | I thoght that was the thing, hated that name as well | 22:21 |
| snap-l | byobu? | 23:12 |
| Blazeix | baobab, the disk usage gui | 23:16 |
| Lledargo | baobab appears to only be a disk analyzer, disk utility can mount, format, etc. | 23:21 |
| snap-l | Still a badly named utility. | 23:29 |
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