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* jgould cusses00:01
Unit193jgould: No freaking kidding! (As I said) Looks like they forget to address that to the tablet dept...00:01
jgouldEh?00:02
Unit193....You were not talking about the link...00:02
jgouldNo00:02
canthus13Unit193: Looks like a bigger screwup than Vista.00:02
* jgould roots his phone00:11
Unit193canthus13: It's sure messed up!!! (Yes I did mean three bangs)00:13
Unit193jgould: Congrats! I hear you can get quassel on that thing :P00:13
jgouldI just want all of AT&T's junk off of it00:14
jgouldhow do you manually delete stuff, just go delete the apk's?00:15
Cheri703some of the bloatware is really hard to remove00:22
Cheri703Unit193: is quasseldroid working now? I couldn't get it to work on mine00:22
Unit193Cheri703: Someone in another channel got it working on a rooted one. Would you like me to ask how?00:24
Cheri703sure, I've got the cdma hero running rooted 2.100:24
jgouldI'm realizing taht, Cheri70300:25
jgouldI'm about to go find a diffrent ROM to load...00:27
Unit193Cheri703: "it should I think"00:39
Cheri703-_- which version? I used the most recent one a few weeks ago00:39
Unit193He doesn't have internet right now and that's all he can use :/00:40
jgouldAny one know how to backup the stock rom?00:43
Cheri703jgould: you can usually download a fresh copy from somewhere00:51
Cheri703I get htc phones, so I find them on xda-developers forum generally, but no idea where you'd find yours00:52
jgouldI have no idea where I'd find mine either.  I'm pulling the apks and then deleting them from teh phone01:06
jgouldthat way I can put them back if I break something01:08
dmcglone1hello all01:10
Unit193dmcglone1: Howja!01:11
jgouldgreeting01:11
dmcglone1how's things holding up here?01:12
jgouldGoing Good.  I just rooted my phone and got rid of AT&T's Bloat Ware...01:15
dmcglone1what type of phone01:17
jgouldLG Phoenix01:17
dmcglone1I've never seen one01:18
jgouldsimilar to a mytouch01:18
dmcglone1Ah Ok, I've seen them01:20
jgouldthe name for the att address book sync: WSsyncmlDS.apk (odex)01:20
jgouldWhy didn't google do to the carriers what Apple did... "You can't install your damn bloatware on these phones"01:25
canthus13jgould: Because they open-sourced the stuff.01:28
jgouldThey could have still done it01:33
canthus13jgould: Not with GPL.01:35
jgoulddon't the carriers know that people don't want this shit01:36
jgouldAlso, AT&T address book sync is pointless on an android device01:38
jgouldwe have google01:38
canthus13I has teh gloogle!01:46
canthus13jgould: Oh.. and the carriers get paid to put that crap on there. Just like PC manufacturers get paid to put all that crap on new PCs.01:47
ronnochi U-Oh02:01
Cheri703hey ronnoc02:02
jgouldI fucked it up...02:02
ronnochi Cheri703 - How goes things?02:03
Cheri703alright, just hanging out02:03
ronnocdid you ever get Quassel set up since we talked about it?02:04
Cheri703yep, I'm using it02:09
Cheri703I like it02:09
ronnoccool. did you have to compile the back-end from source, or did someone package it?02:19
* jgould cusses a few times and then comes up with a solution02:20
Cheri703it is in the repos, but there are packages of the newer somewhere I think02:24
Cheri703you can get core/client from repo (I think? I don't remember)02:24
* jgould restores everything...02:26
ronnocok - I thought I looked before. I'll check it again.02:26
ronnocjgould: lol what all are you into tonight?02:26
jgouldI have a call in about the AT&T Address book fucking up... Now it's "gone"  XD02:27
ronnocon your cell you mean?02:27
Cheri703ronnoc, if not, I'll see if I can find the one02:28
jgouldyeah02:28
Cheri703ronnoc: what version of ubuntu are you using?02:28
ronnocjgould: ouch. hope you have a backup!02:28
jgouldI did a factory reset to see if that would fix it, and this is the result02:29
ronnocCheri703: Kubuntu Natty02:29
Cheri703ah, k02:29
jgouldronnoc: Google :D02:29
jgouldI can't access my contacts on the phone using the contact app because of this stupid problem02:29
Cheri703then you should have it, look in the repos for "quassel-core" for your server computer, and then "quassel-client" for the client comp02:29
ronnocjgould: Smart man! I have all contacts backed up in gmail and google voice02:29
Cheri703jgould: what is the phone model again?02:29
* ronnoc goes to look in Muon Package Manager 02:30
jgouldLGP505 It's the LG Phoenix02:30
jgouldAre you going to try your google fu?02:30
* Cheri703 found your post about it :)02:31
Cheri703and yes02:31
jgouldMy google fu didn't work02:33
jgouldI didn't do anything to the phone... *whistles innocently*02:34
Cheri703how new is this phone?02:35
Cheri703as in, when was it released?02:35
jgouldMarchish02:35
Cheri703k02:36
jgouldand now the phone was never rooted02:38
TheErknight peeps02:39
jgouldNight Erk02:39
Cheri703apparently the phoenix source code hasn't officially been released yet02:41
Cheri703http://forum.androidcentral.com/lg-phoenix-thrive/79670-lg-not-releasing-source-code-thrive-2.html02:41
jgouldI came across that too02:42
Cheri703therefore, you will likely have issues with potential roms, as well as not have an easy time finding the stock rom02:42
jgouldI can deal with the stock rom, I just want this ATT bloat gone02:43
Cheri703generally they need the source code (or someone has to copy/sanitize what they pull from the device itself) to then have the drivers and junk for custom roms02:43
Cheri703yeah...hang on a sec02:43
Cheri703not specific to your phone, but may prove somewhat helpful as an app list / methodology: http://androidforums.com/motorola-flipside/345440-how-root-uninstall-bloatware-de-activate-moto-blur-motorola-flipside.html02:46
jgouldThe version of AAB is diffrent on my phone (It's 2.2) and someone speculated that it's buried deeper than it was before02:49
Cheri703:/ k02:50
Cheri703I don't know much about a. at&t, and b. lg phones...02:50
Cheri703I'm htc through and through :)02:50
=== ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc
jgouldI wonder if I can return this and get an Aria... Hmm... Maybe worth a call and asking02:51
ronnoci saw it there Cheri - I wonder if I use the stand-alone client now, if the separate back-end front-end setup will use my same config file? hmmmm02:52
Cheri703no clue02:52
Cheri703try #quassel02:52
ronnocmore fun to just dive in sometimes :)02:54
Cheri703that works too :/02:55
Cheri703* :)02:55
ronnochehe02:55
* Cheri703 is going to read for a bit, ping if needed02:56
* ronnoc nods02:57
ronnochave fun02:57
* jgould has his android powered phone plugged in wiht a blackberry cord...03:00
Unit193skellat: Howdy!03:10
skellatHowdy03:11
Unit193That was a little massive!03:11
jgouldwell that was nice...03:12
skellatWhat was massive?03:12
Unit193Netsplit...03:13
Unit193jgould: Did you have fun? ;)03:13
jgouldI looked up and I was disconnected...03:13
=== ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc
canthus13paultag: waitwut? Facebook? Seriously?13:33
paultagcanthus13: yeah, I'm in Palo Alto right now, in Facebook's hotel. I can see the warehouse13:34
paultagcanthus13: They paid for *13:34
paultaginterview is in now + 513:35
canthus13Nice.13:35
canthus13Eh? What does facebook need a warehouse for?13:35
paultagcanthus13: they don't have offices. Everyone is on a single flat floor that's open, everyone.13:36
canthus13Weird... Creepy.13:36
paultagcanthus13: I hear it's cool. They apparently put new guys around all the C*O types to freak them out13:36
canthus13Heh. No pressure, eh?13:36
paultagcanthus13: dude, I'm so stressed over it, It's about to be so fucking hard13:37
canthus13Heh. Calm down.  Interviews suck, but they're survivable. :)13:37
paultagthanks :)13:38
canthus13Wow though... Palo Alto.  Lotsa huge players there... I used to know half the people at Xerox's research center there.13:38
paultagcanthus13: yeah, it's odd. There are tech-ey sounding companies allllll all around13:39
paultagand ads for software and stuff13:39
canthus13Heh.  Yeah. I'm glad I avoided picking up a job out there... I hate urban sprawl.13:40
paultagcanthus13: I want this so bad. I'd knock some heads to work here for a ywar13:41
paultagyear13:41
canthus13Heh. It'd look great on a resume for sure. :)13:41
paultagif I had it my way, I'd take like 5 years there13:41
canthus13You're young.. I would have killed for a job around there when I was your age.  Now, though... I'd hate to drag my family out there.13:42
paultagcanthus13: truth13:42
canthus13Austin, otoh, is a great place for family, and has lotsa high-tech stuff going on... as well as an *amazing* music scene.13:42
deejoeis the warehouse actually in Palo Alto?13:43
deejoemaybe East PA?13:43
* deejoe has a hard time imagining parts of PA with warehouses13:43
paultagdeejoe: no, it's in Palo Alto13:43
paultagdeejoe: East Palo Alto is nasty13:43
deejoeso it's west of 101?13:43
paultagI'll walk over there early and blog the photo13:44
paultagdeejoe: yar. My hotel is right down the block, we're not that close to 10113:44
paultagalthough I don't really know the area13:44
deejoeoh, I see it13:46
deejoethe internets they are amazing13:46
canthus13Heh.13:46
paultagdeejoe: yar. Not bad. Not bad.13:47
deejoejust a hop over from page mill rd of vc (in)famy13:47
canthus13paultag: If you get the job, that puts you about 3 hours from some of the most amazing scenery in North America...13:47
paultagcanthus13: where?13:47
canthus13Yosemite and the surrounding national parks.13:47
deejoewell, all over, really.13:48
canthus13True/13:48
deejoepacific ocean13:48
canthus13The Valley itself is pretty fucking ugly, though...13:48
paultagI'm such an east-coast dude, though13:48
deejoehaha13:48
canthus13Big Sur as well..13:48
deejoepaultag: don't let it all dazzle you too much13:48
* deejoe waves paultag towards some online salary calculators13:48
paultagdeejoe: the sun rises on the wrong side of the ocean13:49
paultagwhen facing north13:49
deejoethough, I guess, comparing Boston living expenses wouldn't be too far off13:49
canthus13The politics, taxes, and ridiculously high cost of living suck, though. :/13:49
paultagcanthus13: yar13:49
deejoepaultag: more like, the sun is just over the ocean at the wrong time of day13:49
canthus13Oh yeah.. you're from MA.  not much difference then.13:49
paultagdeejoe: :)13:49
paultagcanthus13: yar13:49
deejoeno Romneycare though13:49
paultagdamn shame13:49
paultagI liked that about MA13:49
canthus13deejoe: No. he gets medical instead.13:49
paultagback when Mitt was a real man's man, and ran Mass.13:50
canthus13..MediCal.13:50
paultagcanthus13: truth, Fb has some insane bennies13:50
canthus13Which is a clusterfuck.13:50
paultagcanthus13: 3 meals a day on their dime, too13:50
deejoeit's one thing to have high taxes, its another to have the taxes go for something in addition to lining corrupt pockets13:50
canthus13Ooo....13:50
canthus13paultag: of course, when they pay for three meals a day, it's because you have no personal time... 12-16 hours a day.. :/13:50
paultagcanthus13: truth, but if i'm already there13:51
paultagmight as well get me some nomables13:51
deejoewhich makes proximity to scenery somewhat superfluous13:51
paultagha!13:51
canthus13paultag: True...13:51
deejoedigiserfs13:51
paultagthat's sadly true13:52
paultagwow, when you put it like that13:52
paultag"WORK FOR US, WE FEED YOU"13:52
canthus13Heh.13:52
canthus13Still.... I'd love to have Facebook on my resume.13:52
paultagI would too, which is why I'm stressing13:53
paultagif this was some no-name company, I'd do fine, but since it's Facebook, I might trip myself up13:54
deejoeworking for .com in .ca.us is like going overseas--instant credibility bump when coming back east when you can't stand it out there any more, or realize that all you'll ever be able to afford is a 35sq ft apt.13:54
paultagdeejoe: :)13:54
deejoeor you get tired of wondering what the frack the season is13:55
deejoebecause you're used to 4 seasons, and all they have is 213:55
deejoe"is it raining?  Y/N"13:55
deejoe"are the hills on fire?  Y/N"13:55
paultagdeejoe: Palo Alto average temp is very close (Low vs Max), so I have a feeling it's pretty summer-like all year long13:55
deejoepaultag: it is13:55
paultagnot at all like Cleveland or Boston13:56
deejoethere are a few streets in Santa Cruz with old houses, Queen Anne style I think?  Anyway, they have these imported deciduous trees there.13:56
deejoePoor things don't know WTF is going on, dropping leaves at all sorts of weird times during the year.13:56
paultagdeejoe: hahaha, oh noo.13:56
paultagdid not even think about that13:56
paultagouch, that sucks13:56
paultag"It's cold! Abadon tree! Abandon tree!"13:57
paultag"False alarm guys, it's summer"13:57
* deejoe distinctly remembers the first time in rained in SC when we were there.13:57
deejoeit was Oct 31st.  My wife had been there since July, me since about August.13:57
deejoeit does stay not too bad if you're close to water, but parts of San Jose get blistering in the summer.13:58
deejoethe key word when it comes to temps there is "microclimates"13:58
deejoeone christmas we went up to get a christmas tree at a farm in the SC hills.13:59
deejoeI was wearing shorts because it was very mild down in town.13:59
deejoebut I about froze my tuchas off at the farm.13:59
deejoe"Let's just cut something down and go before I die of hypothermia"13:59
paultaghaha, oh no13:59
paultagI wonder if a lot of people use gliders14:00
paultagthere must be some awesome temp. deltas to ride out14:00
paultagyou could stay up for hours14:00
deejoeah, right, probably14:00
deejoeI don't recall ever seeing any.14:00
paultagwonder if it's because they're so close to SFO14:00
deejoethe approach for one of the airports, SJC maybe, comes in way high over Santa Cruz14:00
deejoeI remember watching them come in a lot14:01
paultagah, yeah14:01
deejoenot low enough for noise14:01
canthus13paultag: there's a lot of parasaling and hang gliding.14:01
deejoehigh enough that it might have even been SFO or Oakland, I don't know.14:01
paultagcanthus13: humm14:01
deejoeI'd guess air traffic is less a concern, and access to good spots where you can get landowners permission without getting tangled up in liability concersn is higher on the list.14:02
paultagdeejoe: IIRC being above the property is not a problem14:02
paultagbut don't quote me14:03
deejoeI mean from the launch and land sites, more like14:03
paultagdeejoe: ah, right, aye14:03
deejoepaultag: oh, hey, I think I missed saying this, but congratulations on your graduation :-)14:04
paultagdeejoe: thank you! It was a quick 4 years14:04
deejoewhen you're having fun, as they say14:05
paultagdeejoe: true story :)14:05
deejoeone thing I did see a ton of out there is surfing, of course14:06
deejoethere's even a Pizza My Heart in PA now, iirc14:06
deejoepaultag: do you have a wetsuit?14:06
paultagdeejoe: no, but I have all the other gear for SCUBA, and I'm checked out in the Classroom14:07
deejoeawesome14:07
paultagso that's in the list if I get out here :)14:07
deejoeright.14:07
paultagjust do my checkout dives and call it a day14:07
deejoeyeah, Monterey Bay has some awesome stuff iirc14:08
deejoeI don't dive, but there's the huge reserve there, MBARI and the aquarium and all that.14:08
paultagOh well. This is a long shot with facebook anyway14:08
paultagI have 3 hours of interviews in a row14:08
deejoefun14:09
paultagnaaaaawt.14:09
deejoeoh, come on.14:09
deejoecan't go in all tense and so on.14:09
paultagit's fun if I know what I'm doing14:09
paultagotherwise it's nasty14:09
paultagbecause I don't like being wrong14:09
deejoehaha14:09
deejoeyou and a million other Type A techies in the Valley14:10
paultagdeejoe: I'm not type A, I'm just an anal-retentive Type B14:10
paultagand only about some things, I only care about what I care about :)14:10
deejoenice correction14:10
deejoe;-)14:11
paultagyeah the more I qualify the worse it gets14:11
deejoeanyway, good luck, mang.14:11
paultagthanks jabroni14:11
* deejoe goes back to the pre-niece's-wedding stuff14:11
paultagI'm off to hunt some danish14:11
paultagdeejoe: good puck with that! :)14:11
canthus13Whee... Big CME yesterday... Wonder if it'll be enough for auroras?14:13
canthus13http://www.eurekalert.org/multimedia/pub/32955.php?from=18716714:14
Cheri703paultag: in case you make it back to your computer: good luck!15:05
paultagCheri703: thanks! :)15:06
Cheri703you will do fine!15:06
paultagCheri703: http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/253594_1467391805065_1241640882_31475459_512489_n.jpg ← FB HQ15:07
paultagCheri703: and thanks!15:07
Cheri703heh, perhaps we're all just easily impressed, but know you have a large group of ohioans who think you're awesome and are rooting for you ;D15:07
paultagawww, thanks guys15:08
* jgould has new new phone16:46
thafreakanyone feel those 15k rpm hard drives are worth the ridiculous price tag?17:30
thafreakespecially when you put them in a raid 10?17:30
Cheri703http://consumerist.com/2011/06/pay-your-student-loan-or-the-dept-of-education-will-kick-in-your-door-and-handcuff-your-husband.html18:01
canthus13I suspect we'll find later that she acquired the loans fraudulently.18:12
canthus13Still... swat was a bit ridiculous.18:12
canthus13They got pretty nasty with my sister when she dropped out and had to repay her grants.18:12
* canthus13 is finding other cases of arrests over loan fraud.18:13
canthus13...Or, apparently, the warrant was for failure to provide information to a court.  essentially, a bench warrant.18:21
canthus13http://www.mndaily.com/2003/02/14/us-marshals-arrest-student-loan-debtors-twin-cities18:21
canthus13Wow. It's hotter HERE than in Texas.18:27
dmcgloneHello all18:39
canthus13eh? Oh.  it's *you*18:43
jandruskWhat up?19:04
Unit193jandrusk: Not too much, got my coffee19:12
jandruskHopefully the strong stuff.19:15
Unit193Hazelnut, and it's not bad!19:16
jandruskThat's good stuff.19:18
Unit193I think so... But I love the irish cream!19:19
Unit193jandrusk: Do you do any games? (I don't much, but AssaultCube once in a blue moon)19:20
canthus13Hmm... games.19:20
* canthus13 should play sauerbraten again sometime.19:20
Unit193AC = Cube | sauerbraten = Cube219:20
jandruskJust started playing with Battle of Wesnoth19:20
canthus13Unit193: I've got a server running that my kids occasionally play on.19:21
Unit193canthus13: Mod server?19:21
canthus13Unit193: nah.19:21
canthus13Just the standard server.19:21
canthus13my kids love the coop mode.19:21
Unit193I'll join so they can kick some butt!19:21
Unit193(I used to be good at AssaultCube, but stopped for a bit and now I'm rather bad...)19:22
canthus13Heh. I don't have any ports forwarded at the moment.. so it's not visible... But I'll take care of that sometime.19:22
* canthus13 portscans teh server because he forgot which ports need to be forwarded.19:24
jandruskLOL.19:25
canthus13It was faster than googling. :)19:27
* jgould is bored19:33
* jgould roots Unit19319:35
canthus13jgould: ...You are aware of the australian definition of 'root'?19:37
jgouldNo19:38
canthus13roughly equal to 'f*ck* in the US.19:38
jgouldah19:38
canthus13heh.19:38
* jgould needs to root his new new phone19:40
* jgould has an HTC Inspire 4G19:41
Cheri703nice jgould, finally came to your senses and got an htc ;)19:52
Cheri703canthus13: http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/06/08/it-service-desk-wheel-of-responses-pic/19:54
jandruskGoing to be rooting my Samsung Transform soon.20:06
canthus13Cheri703: HAHA!20:15
Cheri703:D20:16
canthus13My wife is ranting about having to use Winodws *AND* Mac at school...20:16
Cheri703heh20:17
jandruskShe needs to be converted onto the true path that is Ubuntu.20:20
Unit193jandrusk: His wife LOVES Ubuntu and hates Windows (She would kill canthus13 if he put it back on her computer)20:23
canthus13Unit193: Heh. you beat me to it.20:24
Unit193He didn't get it anyway20:26
canthus13I'm making her a USB install to loan out to people at school when they ask questions...20:27
Unit193Your version of openbox? Or what are you going to put on it?20:29
canthus13I'm just putting 10.04 live on it.20:29
* canthus13 still has to sort out a lot of stuff before he makes an Openbox ISO.20:30
canthus13wow. it's 100F outisde.20:58
Unit193Temperature: 91°F (Heat Index: 96°F); Humidity: 48%21:00
jgouldIt's 4PM alredy?21:19
Unit193It's 16:20 alright!21:20
Unit193jgould: Get that phone setup yet? (HTC keeps with the Android updates best)21:27
jgouldnot yet.  I have most of my apps reinstalled (except for the Amazon App Store) I  haven't been still long enough to root it yet21:29
jgouldAlso, the 1GHz Snapdragon in this thing is fast21:39
Unit193That's faster than a computer I have....21:45
jgouldheh21:50
Unit193It didn't support my P3 665 :(21:51
jgouldwhat didn't21:52
Unit193The computer (It was a long shot at best)21:52
jgouldwhat didn't support it?21:53
Unit193The computer I have....21:53
* jgould headdesks21:54
jgouldnot bad... 10076kbps down... Now I'll turn off wifi21:55
jgould1700 kbps down on Cell Data21:56
canthus131.7mbit? ...Not *that* bad.22:05
* jgould prepares for a rootfest22:08
* Unit193 really shouldn't remember what canthus13 called it...22:09
jgould:P22:10
canthus13Hehe.22:12
* jgould pokes canthus13 with a stick22:15
jgouldThe AC is loosing the battle22:16
SkrappJawours has been on constant most of the day.22:19
SkrappJawIm glad to have been off work today. Plastics factories are HOT!22:20
* Unit193 doesn't have it22:21
jgouldit's 78 up from 73 this morning22:22
jgouldAnyone have the HTC Insipre?22:23
* SkrappJaw has crackberry22:23
SkrappJaw><22:23
* jgould feels sorry for SkrappJaw22:24
=== ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc
canthus13jgould: thpthpthp.22:25
canthus13jgould: We're at about 88 in the house. :/  I had to put ice cubes in the aquarium to keep the temp down.22:26
jgouldMonday we were up to 88 inside22:26
canthus13It's 100F here in Toledo. :(22:26
SkrappJaw>:P22:27
jgouldHmm... I'm not having luck rooting this Inspire...22:31
Unit193"that's gonna get worse, too. I read the ati driver will have to be 915 or higher now" This will work correct? http://paste.ubuntu.com/622072/22:32
Unit193"intel has to -915 now" "Can't even file bugs for less then that in launchpad"22:34
jgouldI thought HTC's were easy to root22:45
jgouldme grumbles23:01
Cheri703they just have more support23:07
* jgould cusses some more23:11
jgouldMaybe I need a naitve install of Winblows23:12
canthus13jgould: that could be...23:13
Unit193Redneck Riding Mower > http://i.imgur.com/kvIz8.jpg23:13
canthus13which makes no sense.23:13
canthus13but there are plenty of USB linux installs that require windows to install them.23:14
jgouldyou can't do a software update on a BlackBerry unless you have windows...23:14
jgouldI think doing it in a VM isn't cutting it.  It's looking for some kind of access that it's getting passed through properly23:15
jgouldI've seen stranger things...23:17
jgouldThe computer calls the Inspire a "High Andriod Phone"23:19
Cheri703jgould: what vm software to you use?23:26
jgouldVM Ware.  I'm in the Mac OS at the moment.  (Actually been here for a while.  I'm more productve when my track pad works properly...23:36
canthus13hah. My wife's *STILL* bitching about using MacOS and Windows at school....23:38
jgouldHeh23:38
jgouldGreat... My wife just reminded me that I'm going to be 30 next month23:43
canthus13jgould: It's teh first anniversary of your 29th birthday.23:44
jgouldI like it23:44
canthus13:D23:44
jgouldOr I'll be 21 wiht 9 years experence...23:45
jgouldNot that those 9 years have helped my typing...23:45
canthus13Heh.23:46

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