[00:01] * jgould cusses [00:01] jgould: No freaking kidding! (As I said) Looks like they forget to address that to the tablet dept... [00:02] Eh? [00:02] ....You were not talking about the link... [00:02] No [00:02] Unit193: Looks like a bigger screwup than Vista. [00:11] * jgould roots his phone [00:13] canthus13: It's sure messed up!!! (Yes I did mean three bangs) [00:13] jgould: Congrats! I hear you can get quassel on that thing :P [00:14] I just want all of AT&T's junk off of it [00:15] how do you manually delete stuff, just go delete the apk's? [00:22] some of the bloatware is really hard to remove [00:22] Unit193: is quasseldroid working now? I couldn't get it to work on mine [00:24] Cheri703: Someone in another channel got it working on a rooted one. Would you like me to ask how? [00:24] sure, I've got the cdma hero running rooted 2.1 [00:25] I'm realizing taht, Cheri703 [00:27] I'm about to go find a diffrent ROM to load... [00:39] Cheri703: "it should I think" [00:39] -_- which version? I used the most recent one a few weeks ago [00:40] He doesn't have internet right now and that's all he can use :/ [00:43] Any one know how to backup the stock rom? [00:51] jgould: you can usually download a fresh copy from somewhere [00:52] I get htc phones, so I find them on xda-developers forum generally, but no idea where you'd find yours [01:06] I have no idea where I'd find mine either. I'm pulling the apks and then deleting them from teh phone [01:08] that way I can put them back if I break something [01:10] hello all [01:11] dmcglone1: Howja! [01:11] greeting [01:12] how's things holding up here? [01:15] Going Good. I just rooted my phone and got rid of AT&T's Bloat Ware... [01:17] what type of phone [01:17] LG Phoenix [01:18] I've never seen one [01:18] similar to a mytouch [01:20] Ah Ok, I've seen them [01:20] the name for the att address book sync: WSsyncmlDS.apk (odex) [01:25] Why didn't google do to the carriers what Apple did... "You can't install your damn bloatware on these phones" [01:28] jgould: Because they open-sourced the stuff. [01:33] They could have still done it [01:35] jgould: Not with GPL. [01:36] don't the carriers know that people don't want this shit [01:38] Also, AT&T address book sync is pointless on an android device [01:38] we have google [01:46] I has teh gloogle! [01:47] jgould: Oh.. and the carriers get paid to put that crap on there. Just like PC manufacturers get paid to put all that crap on new PCs. [02:01] hi U-Oh [02:02] hey ronnoc [02:02] I fucked it up... [02:03] hi Cheri703 - How goes things? [02:03] alright, just hanging out [02:04] did you ever get Quassel set up since we talked about it? [02:09] yep, I'm using it [02:09] I like it [02:19] cool. did you have to compile the back-end from source, or did someone package it? [02:20] * jgould cusses a few times and then comes up with a solution [02:24] it is in the repos, but there are packages of the newer somewhere I think [02:24] you can get core/client from repo (I think? I don't remember) [02:26] * jgould restores everything... [02:26] ok - I thought I looked before. I'll check it again. [02:26] jgould: lol what all are you into tonight? [02:27] I have a call in about the AT&T Address book fucking up... Now it's "gone" XD [02:27] on your cell you mean? [02:28] ronnoc, if not, I'll see if I can find the one [02:28] yeah [02:28] ronnoc: what version of ubuntu are you using? [02:28] jgould: ouch. hope you have a backup! [02:29] I did a factory reset to see if that would fix it, and this is the result [02:29] Cheri703: Kubuntu Natty [02:29] ah, k [02:29] ronnoc: Google :D [02:29] I can't access my contacts on the phone using the contact app because of this stupid problem [02:29] then you should have it, look in the repos for "quassel-core" for your server computer, and then "quassel-client" for the client comp [02:29] jgould: Smart man! I have all contacts backed up in gmail and google voice [02:29] jgould: what is the phone model again? [02:30] * ronnoc goes to look in Muon Package Manager [02:30] LGP505 It's the LG Phoenix [02:30] Are you going to try your google fu? [02:31] * Cheri703 found your post about it :) [02:31] and yes [02:33] My google fu didn't work [02:34] I didn't do anything to the phone... *whistles innocently* [02:35] how new is this phone? [02:35] as in, when was it released? [02:35] Marchish [02:36] k [02:38] and now the phone was never rooted [02:39] night peeps [02:39] Night Erk [02:41] apparently the phoenix source code hasn't officially been released yet [02:41] http://forum.androidcentral.com/lg-phoenix-thrive/79670-lg-not-releasing-source-code-thrive-2.html [02:42] I came across that too [02:42] therefore, you will likely have issues with potential roms, as well as not have an easy time finding the stock rom [02:43] I can deal with the stock rom, I just want this ATT bloat gone [02:43] generally they need the source code (or someone has to copy/sanitize what they pull from the device itself) to then have the drivers and junk for custom roms [02:43] yeah...hang on a sec [02:46] not specific to your phone, but may prove somewhat helpful as an app list / methodology: http://androidforums.com/motorola-flipside/345440-how-root-uninstall-bloatware-de-activate-moto-blur-motorola-flipside.html [02:49] The version of AAB is diffrent on my phone (It's 2.2) and someone speculated that it's buried deeper than it was before [02:50] :/ k [02:50] I don't know much about a. at&t, and b. lg phones... [02:50] I'm htc through and through :) === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [02:51] I wonder if I can return this and get an Aria... Hmm... Maybe worth a call and asking [02:52] i saw it there Cheri - I wonder if I use the stand-alone client now, if the separate back-end front-end setup will use my same config file? hmmmm [02:52] no clue [02:52] try #quassel [02:54] more fun to just dive in sometimes :) [02:55] that works too :/ [02:55] * :) [02:55] hehe [02:56] * Cheri703 is going to read for a bit, ping if needed [02:57] * ronnoc nods [02:57] have fun [03:00] * jgould has his android powered phone plugged in wiht a blackberry cord... [03:10] skellat: Howdy! [03:11] Howdy [03:11] That was a little massive! [03:12] well that was nice... [03:12] What was massive? [03:13] Netsplit... [03:13] jgould: Did you have fun? ;) [03:13] I looked up and I was disconnected... === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [13:33] paultag: waitwut? Facebook? Seriously? [13:34] canthus13: yeah, I'm in Palo Alto right now, in Facebook's hotel. I can see the warehouse [13:34] canthus13: They paid for * [13:35] interview is in now + 5 [13:35] Nice. [13:35] Eh? What does facebook need a warehouse for? [13:36] canthus13: they don't have offices. Everyone is on a single flat floor that's open, everyone. [13:36] Weird... Creepy. [13:36] canthus13: I hear it's cool. They apparently put new guys around all the C*O types to freak them out [13:36] Heh. No pressure, eh? [13:37] canthus13: dude, I'm so stressed over it, It's about to be so fucking hard [13:37] Heh. Calm down. Interviews suck, but they're survivable. :) [13:38] thanks :) [13:38] Wow though... Palo Alto. Lotsa huge players there... I used to know half the people at Xerox's research center there. [13:39] canthus13: yeah, it's odd. There are tech-ey sounding companies allllll all around [13:39] and ads for software and stuff [13:40] Heh. Yeah. I'm glad I avoided picking up a job out there... I hate urban sprawl. [13:41] canthus13: I want this so bad. I'd knock some heads to work here for a ywar [13:41] year [13:41] Heh. It'd look great on a resume for sure. :) [13:41] if I had it my way, I'd take like 5 years there [13:42] You're young.. I would have killed for a job around there when I was your age. Now, though... I'd hate to drag my family out there. [13:42] canthus13: truth [13:42] Austin, otoh, is a great place for family, and has lotsa high-tech stuff going on... as well as an *amazing* music scene. [13:43] is the warehouse actually in Palo Alto? [13:43] maybe East PA? [13:43] * deejoe has a hard time imagining parts of PA with warehouses [13:43] deejoe: no, it's in Palo Alto [13:43] deejoe: East Palo Alto is nasty [13:43] so it's west of 101? [13:44] I'll walk over there early and blog the photo [13:44] deejoe: yar. My hotel is right down the block, we're not that close to 101 [13:44] although I don't really know the area [13:46] oh, I see it [13:46] the internets they are amazing [13:46] Heh. [13:47] deejoe: yar. Not bad. Not bad. [13:47] just a hop over from page mill rd of vc (in)famy [13:47] paultag: If you get the job, that puts you about 3 hours from some of the most amazing scenery in North America... [13:47] canthus13: where? [13:47] Yosemite and the surrounding national parks. [13:48] well, all over, really. [13:48] True/ [13:48] pacific ocean [13:48] The Valley itself is pretty fucking ugly, though... [13:48] I'm such an east-coast dude, though [13:48] haha [13:48] Big Sur as well.. [13:48] paultag: don't let it all dazzle you too much [13:48] * deejoe waves paultag towards some online salary calculators [13:49] deejoe: the sun rises on the wrong side of the ocean [13:49] when facing north [13:49] though, I guess, comparing Boston living expenses wouldn't be too far off [13:49] The politics, taxes, and ridiculously high cost of living suck, though. :/ [13:49] canthus13: yar [13:49] paultag: more like, the sun is just over the ocean at the wrong time of day [13:49] Oh yeah.. you're from MA. not much difference then. [13:49] deejoe: :) [13:49] canthus13: yar [13:49] no Romneycare though [13:49] damn shame [13:49] I liked that about MA [13:49] deejoe: No. he gets medical instead. [13:50] back when Mitt was a real man's man, and ran Mass. [13:50] ..MediCal. [13:50] canthus13: truth, Fb has some insane bennies [13:50] Which is a clusterfuck. [13:50] canthus13: 3 meals a day on their dime, too [13:50] it's one thing to have high taxes, its another to have the taxes go for something in addition to lining corrupt pockets [13:50] Ooo.... [13:50] paultag: of course, when they pay for three meals a day, it's because you have no personal time... 12-16 hours a day.. :/ [13:51] canthus13: truth, but if i'm already there [13:51] might as well get me some nomables [13:51] which makes proximity to scenery somewhat superfluous [13:51] ha! [13:51] paultag: True... [13:51] digiserfs [13:52] that's sadly true [13:52] wow, when you put it like that [13:52] "WORK FOR US, WE FEED YOU" [13:52] Heh. [13:52] Still.... I'd love to have Facebook on my resume. [13:53] I would too, which is why I'm stressing [13:54] if this was some no-name company, I'd do fine, but since it's Facebook, I might trip myself up [13:54] working for .com in .ca.us is like going overseas--instant credibility bump when coming back east when you can't stand it out there any more, or realize that all you'll ever be able to afford is a 35sq ft apt. [13:54] deejoe: :) [13:55] or you get tired of wondering what the frack the season is [13:55] because you're used to 4 seasons, and all they have is 2 [13:55] "is it raining? Y/N" [13:55] "are the hills on fire? Y/N" [13:55] deejoe: Palo Alto average temp is very close (Low vs Max), so I have a feeling it's pretty summer-like all year long [13:55] paultag: it is [13:56] not at all like Cleveland or Boston [13:56] there are a few streets in Santa Cruz with old houses, Queen Anne style I think? Anyway, they have these imported deciduous trees there. [13:56] Poor things don't know WTF is going on, dropping leaves at all sorts of weird times during the year. [13:56] deejoe: hahaha, oh noo. [13:56] did not even think about that [13:56] ouch, that sucks [13:57] "It's cold! Abadon tree! Abandon tree!" [13:57] "False alarm guys, it's summer" [13:57] * deejoe distinctly remembers the first time in rained in SC when we were there. [13:57] it was Oct 31st. My wife had been there since July, me since about August. [13:58] it does stay not too bad if you're close to water, but parts of San Jose get blistering in the summer. [13:58] the key word when it comes to temps there is "microclimates" [13:59] one christmas we went up to get a christmas tree at a farm in the SC hills. [13:59] I was wearing shorts because it was very mild down in town. [13:59] but I about froze my tuchas off at the farm. [13:59] "Let's just cut something down and go before I die of hypothermia" [13:59] haha, oh no [14:00] I wonder if a lot of people use gliders [14:00] there must be some awesome temp. deltas to ride out [14:00] you could stay up for hours [14:00] ah, right, probably [14:00] I don't recall ever seeing any. [14:00] wonder if it's because they're so close to SFO [14:00] the approach for one of the airports, SJC maybe, comes in way high over Santa Cruz [14:01] I remember watching them come in a lot [14:01] ah, yeah [14:01] not low enough for noise [14:01] paultag: there's a lot of parasaling and hang gliding. [14:01] high enough that it might have even been SFO or Oakland, I don't know. [14:01] canthus13: humm [14:02] I'd guess air traffic is less a concern, and access to good spots where you can get landowners permission without getting tangled up in liability concersn is higher on the list. [14:02] deejoe: IIRC being above the property is not a problem [14:03] but don't quote me [14:03] I mean from the launch and land sites, more like [14:03] deejoe: ah, right, aye [14:04] paultag: oh, hey, I think I missed saying this, but congratulations on your graduation :-) [14:04] deejoe: thank you! It was a quick 4 years [14:05] when you're having fun, as they say [14:05] deejoe: true story :) [14:06] one thing I did see a ton of out there is surfing, of course [14:06] there's even a Pizza My Heart in PA now, iirc [14:06] paultag: do you have a wetsuit? [14:07] deejoe: no, but I have all the other gear for SCUBA, and I'm checked out in the Classroom [14:07] awesome [14:07] so that's in the list if I get out here :) [14:07] right. [14:07] just do my checkout dives and call it a day [14:08] yeah, Monterey Bay has some awesome stuff iirc [14:08] I don't dive, but there's the huge reserve there, MBARI and the aquarium and all that. [14:08] Oh well. This is a long shot with facebook anyway [14:08] I have 3 hours of interviews in a row [14:09] fun [14:09] naaaaawt. [14:09] oh, come on. [14:09] can't go in all tense and so on. [14:09] it's fun if I know what I'm doing [14:09] otherwise it's nasty [14:09] because I don't like being wrong [14:09] haha [14:10] you and a million other Type A techies in the Valley [14:10] deejoe: I'm not type A, I'm just an anal-retentive Type B [14:10] and only about some things, I only care about what I care about :) [14:10] nice correction [14:11] ;-) [14:11] yeah the more I qualify the worse it gets [14:11] anyway, good luck, mang. [14:11] thanks jabroni [14:11] * deejoe goes back to the pre-niece's-wedding stuff [14:11] I'm off to hunt some danish [14:11] deejoe: good puck with that! :) [14:13] Whee... Big CME yesterday... Wonder if it'll be enough for auroras? [14:14] http://www.eurekalert.org/multimedia/pub/32955.php?from=187167 [15:05] paultag: in case you make it back to your computer: good luck! [15:06] Cheri703: thanks! :) [15:06] you will do fine! [15:07] Cheri703: http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/253594_1467391805065_1241640882_31475459_512489_n.jpg ← FB HQ [15:07] Cheri703: and thanks! [15:07] heh, perhaps we're all just easily impressed, but know you have a large group of ohioans who think you're awesome and are rooting for you ;D [15:08] awww, thanks guys [16:46] * jgould has new new phone [17:30] anyone feel those 15k rpm hard drives are worth the ridiculous price tag? [17:30] especially when you put them in a raid 10? [18:01] http://consumerist.com/2011/06/pay-your-student-loan-or-the-dept-of-education-will-kick-in-your-door-and-handcuff-your-husband.html [18:12] I suspect we'll find later that she acquired the loans fraudulently. [18:12] Still... swat was a bit ridiculous. [18:12] They got pretty nasty with my sister when she dropped out and had to repay her grants. [18:13] * canthus13 is finding other cases of arrests over loan fraud. [18:21] ...Or, apparently, the warrant was for failure to provide information to a court. essentially, a bench warrant. [18:21] http://www.mndaily.com/2003/02/14/us-marshals-arrest-student-loan-debtors-twin-cities [18:27] Wow. It's hotter HERE than in Texas. [18:39] Hello all [18:43] eh? Oh. it's *you* [19:04] What up? [19:12] jandrusk: Not too much, got my coffee [19:15] Hopefully the strong stuff. [19:16] Hazelnut, and it's not bad! [19:18] That's good stuff. [19:19] I think so... But I love the irish cream! [19:20] jandrusk: Do you do any games? (I don't much, but AssaultCube once in a blue moon) [19:20] Hmm... games. [19:20] * canthus13 should play sauerbraten again sometime. [19:20] AC = Cube | sauerbraten = Cube2 [19:20] Just started playing with Battle of Wesnoth [19:21] Unit193: I've got a server running that my kids occasionally play on. [19:21] canthus13: Mod server? [19:21] Unit193: nah. [19:21] Just the standard server. [19:21] my kids love the coop mode. [19:21] I'll join so they can kick some butt! [19:22] (I used to be good at AssaultCube, but stopped for a bit and now I'm rather bad...) [19:22] Heh. I don't have any ports forwarded at the moment.. so it's not visible... But I'll take care of that sometime. [19:24] * canthus13 portscans teh server because he forgot which ports need to be forwarded. [19:25] LOL. [19:27] It was faster than googling. :) [19:33] * jgould is bored [19:35] * jgould roots Unit193 [19:37] jgould: ...You are aware of the australian definition of 'root'? [19:38] No [19:38] roughly equal to 'f*ck* in the US. [19:38] ah [19:38] heh. [19:40] * jgould needs to root his new new phone [19:41] * jgould has an HTC Inspire 4G [19:52] nice jgould, finally came to your senses and got an htc ;) [19:54] canthus13: http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/06/08/it-service-desk-wheel-of-responses-pic/ [20:06] Going to be rooting my Samsung Transform soon. [20:15] Cheri703: HAHA! [20:16] :D [20:16] My wife is ranting about having to use Winodws *AND* Mac at school... [20:17] heh [20:20] She needs to be converted onto the true path that is Ubuntu. [20:23] jandrusk: His wife LOVES Ubuntu and hates Windows (She would kill canthus13 if he put it back on her computer) [20:24] Unit193: Heh. you beat me to it. [20:26] He didn't get it anyway [20:27] I'm making her a USB install to loan out to people at school when they ask questions... [20:29] Your version of openbox? Or what are you going to put on it? [20:29] I'm just putting 10.04 live on it. [20:30] * canthus13 still has to sort out a lot of stuff before he makes an Openbox ISO. [20:58] wow. it's 100F outisde. [21:00] Temperature: 91°F (Heat Index: 96°F); Humidity: 48% [21:19] It's 4PM alredy? [21:20] It's 16:20 alright! [21:27] jgould: Get that phone setup yet? (HTC keeps with the Android updates best) [21:29] not yet. I have most of my apps reinstalled (except for the Amazon App Store) I haven't been still long enough to root it yet [21:39] Also, the 1GHz Snapdragon in this thing is fast [21:45] That's faster than a computer I have.... [21:50] heh [21:51] It didn't support my P3 665 :( [21:52] what didn't [21:52] The computer (It was a long shot at best) [21:53] what didn't support it? [21:53] The computer I have.... [21:54] * jgould headdesks [21:55] not bad... 10076kbps down... Now I'll turn off wifi [21:56] 1700 kbps down on Cell Data [22:05] 1.7mbit? ...Not *that* bad. [22:08] * jgould prepares for a rootfest [22:09] * Unit193 really shouldn't remember what canthus13 called it... [22:10] :P [22:12] Hehe. [22:15] * jgould pokes canthus13 with a stick [22:16] The AC is loosing the battle [22:19] ours has been on constant most of the day. [22:20] Im glad to have been off work today. Plastics factories are HOT! [22:21] * Unit193 doesn't have it [22:22] it's 78 up from 73 this morning [22:23] Anyone have the HTC Insipre? [22:23] * SkrappJaw has crackberry [22:23] >< [22:24] * jgould feels sorry for SkrappJaw === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [22:25] jgould: thpthpthp. [22:26] jgould: We're at about 88 in the house. :/ I had to put ice cubes in the aquarium to keep the temp down. [22:26] Monday we were up to 88 inside [22:26] It's 100F here in Toledo. :( [22:27] >:P [22:31] Hmm... I'm not having luck rooting this Inspire... [22:32] "that's gonna get worse, too. I read the ati driver will have to be 915 or higher now" This will work correct? http://paste.ubuntu.com/622072/ [22:34] "intel has to -915 now" "Can't even file bugs for less then that in launchpad" [22:45] I thought HTC's were easy to root [23:01] me grumbles [23:07] they just have more support [23:11] * jgould cusses some more [23:12] Maybe I need a naitve install of Winblows [23:13] jgould: that could be... [23:13] Redneck Riding Mower > http://i.imgur.com/kvIz8.jpg [23:13] which makes no sense. [23:14] but there are plenty of USB linux installs that require windows to install them. [23:14] you can't do a software update on a BlackBerry unless you have windows... [23:15] I think doing it in a VM isn't cutting it. It's looking for some kind of access that it's getting passed through properly [23:17] I've seen stranger things... [23:19] The computer calls the Inspire a "High Andriod Phone" [23:26] jgould: what vm software to you use? [23:36] VM Ware. I'm in the Mac OS at the moment. (Actually been here for a while. I'm more productve when my track pad works properly... [23:38] hah. My wife's *STILL* bitching about using MacOS and Windows at school.... [23:38] Heh [23:43] Great... My wife just reminded me that I'm going to be 30 next month [23:44] jgould: It's teh first anniversary of your 29th birthday. [23:44] I like it [23:44] :D [23:45] Or I'll be 21 wiht 9 years experence... [23:45] Not that those 9 years have helped my typing... [23:46] Heh.