[00:26] wrst: Still around? That is quasseldroid? [00:32] Unit193: still around and no internet [00:32] * wrst fumes [00:34] Person I know has a "cdma hero running rooted 2.1" do you know *offhand* if quassel will run on it? [00:38] it should I think [02:21] so when I try to take a screenshot I get this interesting mess http://i.imgur.com/r45O9.png [02:22] also evoking the print screen button also makes a nice snap shot sound [02:23] I take that back.. it seems to work now [02:23] What flavor? [02:24] wrst, this is what I was trying to show you the other day http://i.imgur.com/kD7Yq.jpg [02:24] Unit193 ? [02:27] Ah! Oneiric w/ Gnome [4~3 [02:27] yes 11.10 with gnome3 [02:27] I'm honestly loving it [02:30] And the funny errors? ;) [02:30] there really aren't too much [02:31] its beyond usable [02:34] I'm testing the daily versions of Xubuntu for that team. They also have to undo some things Ubuntu did :/ [02:41] chris4585: cool [04:01] wrst: internet status? [04:02] Unit193: yes, it should, it's been tested on a gsm hero, the only difference is the guts it them [04:40] What version? [11:27] cyberanger: no internet [12:46] wrst: wanna try stringing a cable from my house to yours? :) [12:50] pricew: that woudl be great! [12:53] pricew: you have any idea what can help "motivate" an ISP to fix your service [12:59] Twin Lakes, right? [13:08] wrst: I've got a friend there. What is your phone number? [13:10] 403-2636 [13:10] pricew: they were out yesterday and said it was working, but didn't :/ [13:11] and I don't doubt he had it working either but didn't when I got home and that's just on my laptop I was going to handle the router set up etc [13:12] I explored other options but they really are still the best option they just aren't customer oriented I don't think if that makes sense they are always nice but they just don't seem too capable [13:26] He's checking with the DSL department ..... [13:27] wow thanks pricew, I really think there is somethign on the setup I wanted to keep a static IP, but I had opendns, and I asked the guy to just use their default stuff on my win 7 laptop and I woudl get the rest going later but I fear something is out of whack with all of that [13:27] I think they changed backbones and I don't think my static IP will work now but I may be wrong [13:30] That's odd. So, your Win 7 laptop was working when he left? [13:32] yes, but he turned it off and disconnected the network cable... kinda wish he had left it on :) [13:32] and that's all I was wanting to get internet working on something and I can handle the rest easy enough [13:32] I felt sorry for the guy doing the repairs because he told me he didn't know much about computers :D [13:33] I'm going to call the repair dept. again to let them know where I left the key etc when they open up [13:47] wrst: Yea, many times it is a "phone guy" that has been given the task of doing computer networking and they just don't have the background. [13:48] no and I feel sorry for them really, because its not their fault, I have to admit I have had to remind myself to be patient :) [13:48] but they are really nice guys they can't help it they just don't know [14:06] pricew: they are supposed to have someone on it [14:07] wrst: cool. [14:07] but they did on monday and tuesday also pricew :\ [14:10] My friend there is a computer guy, so maybe he can help them. [14:10] I hope so I'm starting to get a little frustrated [14:11] wrst: I know how you feel. I went throught the same thing with Charter. [14:11] yeah I'm about ready to pull the plug on them if they don't get it today [14:12] Do you have other options? [14:26] to some extent though, I'd think patience is up [14:26] unless they give you a clear(er) reason for this mishap [14:27] pricew: realistic options, not really (I asked the same question) [14:27] pricew: I do have a cable option but its not better than the current option [14:27] but if they can't fix it, that may be the only one :) [14:28] wrst: hughesnet and celluar too [14:28] but that to me is a last resort in your area [14:29] yeah cyberanger that's worse than what I have already :) [14:30] well, I am not a fan of hughesnet with other choices [14:30] but saying it's worse than what you have, while what you have is a droid [14:31] kinda says something [14:31] (to clarify, it says celluar works for you, dsl isn't) [14:33] I can only think of one time where I didn't have a great backup, visiting family in Hot Springs, AR [14:34] last year a cable in Benton, AR was damaged (wound up being a fiber optic line covering both providers and then some) [14:35] I didn't have the boost phone from the trip two months earlier, hadn't had the virgin mobile data card working yet (it was stubborn to setup) [14:38] got the dial up modem on that trip (was planning to anyhow, just as a backup and travel tool) [14:38] and that was a huge repair (at least one town in tourist season, and parts of one city, at least) [14:39] done in under 18 hours [14:39] yours is 3 days, 4 days? if they haven't told you why, I'd (politely) ask [14:40] all I can say wrst is I'm glad the droid works [14:42] ha ha cyberanger [14:42] wroking on day 5 [14:45] (to me, this looks like a time to root it, grab cm7, install sshtunnel, use sshtunnel and then start tethering) [14:46] except, perhaps waiting for stable internet or at least time to focus wouldn't hurt [14:47] wrst: is yours just the original droid? [14:47] (my G2 is a pain to root, compared to most, but to me still easy, just time to get it right) [14:48] bbia(very short)b, gotta punch in [14:57] ok pricew looks like they had me setup at their office on dhcp and a static IP at my house, which is what I suspected [14:58] wrst: So, you think they got it up? [15:01] no the guy is going to the house i think they will have to change the modem or something out [15:01] i wanted to keep a static IP but just told them to forget it :0 [15:01] meant :) [15:04] You would think they could change everything from the office. [15:04] yesterday the guy had to go get a modem sepcifically for a static ip he said... not for sure how all that works pricew [15:09] hmmm [15:09] all that seemed strange to me pricew [15:10] What would they do if you had your own modem? [15:10] beats me pricew [15:10] they really push for you to buy even a router, I guess to help them with support [15:11] In fact, I probably have an extra dsl modem at home somewhere. [15:11] If you don't want to rent theirs, that is. [15:11] well pricew I have 3 now after they proclaimed my modem was bad yesterday [15:11] :) [15:11] Maybe you should start your own DSL service. :) [15:11] I may need to have a modem yard sale [15:21] wrst: that is serously not right [15:22] what's not right cyberanger? [15:23] needing a different modem for static [15:24] needing to give up a static, and needing a guy to head down there to do that [15:24] for dsl, really not right [15:24] oh I know cyberanger [15:24] dsl is just a tunnel [15:24] pppoe [15:25] but they will eventually hunt and peck and get it working or I will call the cable company tomorrow [15:26] cyberanger: they have been nice and have really tried I think they just don't know much [15:26] pricew: does twin lakes have a IT person that helps out with the DSL stuff? [15:26] wrst: is the dsl modem set up as a dumb modem, or a "smart modem" [15:27] cyberanger: I don't know... I'm thinking the whole system is pretty dumb right now ;) what's the difference? [15:27] difference is you can tell ubuntu to handle it, if it's dumb [15:28] or your router, for that matter [15:28] yeah cyberanger I normally use dd-wrt router, but for just getting it to work I have a Win 7 laptop sitting on the desk just wanting to get internet to it then I can handle the rest :) [15:29] wrst: tell dd-wrt to grab an address over ppoe, you should be running then [15:29] unless they've really screwed up [15:29] (not giving you a static you already had, did they explain that?) [15:31] cyberanger: I have it working now I beleive with dhcp which is fine just to have something working [15:33] is it dhcp or dhcp over pppoe [15:33] just dhcp [15:33] hrm, that's odd [15:33] or I beleive cyberanger that is correct I'm not really for certain [15:33] the modem is set for a smart mode, if it's just dhcp [15:34] * cyberanger wonders about your isp [15:41] cyberanger: I do too, they are great at phone service and repair, just not with the internet, it gets very frustrating, but they people are so nice its hard to get flat out mad [15:43] wrst: well, ask if they're hiring, I prefer that stuff, and I'm nice (well, ok, I have my moments ;-)) [15:44] ha ha they could use you cyberanger [15:44] cyberanger: I know most of the repair guys so I just left a key so they could let themselves in if the lets you know what I think about them [15:44] just frustrated they couldn't get it fixed [15:46] wrst: A friend of mine helps them with their IT stuff, but I think that he just helps with their "internal" needs. So, is it fixed? [15:46] well, some ways it does [15:47] unfortunately, still doesn't explain this mess [15:47] pricew: supposed to be, had to move to dhcp i just don't think they knew how to set the other up [15:48] wrst: cool. Maybe you can tackle the static IP stuff on another day. :) [15:48] pricew: I really think they would do well to hire someone, on their internet side think it would end up saving them money and having much happier customers [15:49] Probably so. [15:49] pricew: if it doesn't change often I won't really care, I take care of some stuff on comcast and it hasn't changed in two years [15:49] but I just feared with the setup they have everytime the modem restarted I would have a new IP address [15:51] ever used dyndns.com? [15:52] pricew: I think I may use that for our opendns setup at church [15:53] * wrst wonders if he is thinking of the right thing so checks it out [15:53] cyberanger: pong [15:54] nope pricew thinking of something else but I might do that [15:54] probably a lot easier than gettting a static IP :) [15:54] yup. :) [15:56] hmm and I see FREE pricew thats my favorite word [15:56] yup, mine too! [15:57] and that's my wifes mission number one [15:58] wrst: my favorite is sucess, but free is up there [15:58] cyberanger: i'm just cheap [15:58] * wrst wonders if pace_t_zulu has quit drooling over the latest Mac news [15:59] and if they were sucessful, in keeping your ip, it'd still be free [15:59] pace_t_zulu: see pm [16:01] wrst: what news? [16:01] the OSX nes from this week about 10.7 :) [16:01] cyberanger: no issues with that whatsoever [16:02] wrst: yea... i'm bout to renew my ios developer program membership [16:02] wrst: thinking about enrolling in mac developer program [16:02] i'd have access to 10.7 developer preview 4 [16:02] i currently have access to ios 5 :D [16:06] pace_t_zulu: what about android [16:06] * cyberanger loves open sause, it tastes great [16:10] cyberanger: i reckon i have access to android as well [16:10] cyberanger: do you really think google is open source? [16:11] * pace_t_zulu thinks google isn't really that open [16:15] depending on the item (this case android) yes [16:15] and android is, sure there are blobs I'm sure (there is in ubuntu for that matter) [16:23] cyberanger: no... my point is they develop in a closed environment ... they occasionally snapshot the closed evironment to appease the open source folks [16:24] yeah, but does anyone do anything more (aside from openmoko) [16:24] Maemo is dead (which I hate, but it is) [16:24] one of Meego's backers ditched it for WM7 [16:26] for a system that was fully closed for years, it's more progress in less time [16:56] cyberanger: ping [17:00] wrst: ping [17:02] pace_t_zulu: pong [17:02] wrst: pm [17:03] waiting :) [17:05] cyberanger: ping [17:54] sorry, ran to fetch lunch [18:05] going to grab lunch... afk [18:31] DynDNS used to have better addresses to pick from [18:33] there are other providers [18:34] I got to keep my .homelinux one :D [18:40] hello infocop411 if that is your real name === infocop411 is now known as cyberanger [18:45] hey wrst [18:45] charter is toying with me [18:46] ha ha atleast you are connected cyberanger!! [18:48] wrst: I've got too many connections [18:49] keeping me from the internets is as easy as keeping silvester stalone from boxing [18:51] cyberanger: don't think i want to be that well connected :) [18:56] lol [18:56] its good to get away from being connected [18:56] One way or another though, it has to be ground zero or some disaster of equal magnitude to keep me offline [18:57] oh, I disconnect myself, but I ensure I've got options [18:57] (a curse from some logistic & anaylis backgrounds I guess) [18:58] I like the power of pulling the plug, somebody else doing it just doesn't fly [19:19] cyberanger: I understand that, but hopefully my plug will be hotter now, supposed to havea 10/1 connection now [19:24] nice [19:25] when girls hog the phone line, it's for calling boyfriends [19:25] when a geek hogs the line, you hear modem noise [19:25] I grew up hogging the line, then glued to the cable modem [19:53] wrst: Welcome to broadband. :) [19:54] ha ha pricew it should beat the 3.0/256 that I had [19:54] and I thought that was flying from where I had been [19:55] I got 30 on speedtest.net the other day from my cable modem. [19:55] pricew: that's just showing off ;) [19:56] That's as long as it stays up. I sometimes get 0/0 for days at a time. :) [19:58] ha ha [19:58] that's what I have had working on 5 days, but I think its up now [19:58] what usually causes your down time pricew? [20:00] Faulty equipment the last three times. 2 times was a signal booster and the other was some kind of grounding block. [20:03] nice hey atlest they know what went wrong ;) [20:05] wrst: it's always helpful to know what failed, unfortunately the ISP's don't make that easy [20:05] pricew: signal booster, wifi? [20:16] cyberanger: it was to boost the cable signal. Something like this: http://wall-brackets.manufacturer.supplierlist.com/productsimages/tvsignalbooster_143672.jpg [20:21] ah, intresting, never heard anyone use them for actual cable though (not that it couldn't be done, just never heard it done) [20:22] Yea, I think I've just got a weak signal. [23:05] woot [23:05] I have internets! [23:05] yay [23:06] yay indeed gotta restart it a time or two [23:07] pricew: happens (I've thought about doing that myself to compensate with signal loss) === wrst_ is now known as wrst