[00:26] <Unit193> wrst: Still around? That is quasseldroid?
[00:32] <wrst> Unit193: still around and no internet
[00:32]  * wrst fumes
[00:34] <Unit193> Person I know has a "cdma hero running rooted 2.1" do you know *offhand* if quassel will run on it?
[00:38] <wrst> it should I think
[02:21] <chris4585> so when I try to take a screenshot I get this interesting mess http://i.imgur.com/r45O9.png
[02:22] <chris4585> also evoking the print screen button also makes a nice snap shot sound
[02:23] <chris4585> I take that back.. it seems to work now
[02:23] <Unit193> What flavor?
[02:24] <chris4585> wrst, this is what I was trying to show you the other day http://i.imgur.com/kD7Yq.jpg
[02:24] <chris4585> Unit193 ?
[02:27] <Unit193> Ah! Oneiric w/ Gnome [4~3
[02:27] <chris4585> yes 11.10 with gnome3
[02:27] <chris4585> I'm honestly loving it
[02:30] <Unit193> And the funny errors? ;)
[02:30] <chris4585> there really aren't too much
[02:31] <chris4585> its beyond usable
[02:34] <Unit193> I'm testing the daily versions of Xubuntu for that team. They also have to undo some things Ubuntu did :/
[02:41] <wrst> chris4585: cool
[04:01] <cyberanger> wrst: internet status?
[04:02] <cyberanger> Unit193: yes, it should, it's been tested on a gsm hero, the only difference is the guts it them
[04:40] <Unit193> What version?
[11:27] <wrst> cyberanger: no internet
[12:46] <pricew> wrst: wanna try stringing a cable from my house to yours?  :)
[12:50] <wrst> pricew: that woudl be great!
[12:53] <wrst> pricew: you have any idea what can help "motivate" an ISP to fix your service
[12:59] <pricew> Twin Lakes, right?
[13:08] <pricew> wrst: I've got a friend there.  What is your phone number?
[13:10] <wrst> 403-2636
[13:10] <wrst> pricew: they were out yesterday and said it was working, but didn't :/
[13:11] <wrst> and I don't doubt he had it working either but didn't when I got home and that's just on my laptop I was going to handle the router set up etc
[13:12] <wrst> I explored other options but they really are still the best option they just aren't customer oriented I don't think if that makes sense they are always nice but they just don't seem too capable
[13:26] <pricew> He's checking with the DSL department .....
[13:27] <wrst> wow thanks pricew, I really think there is somethign on the setup I wanted to keep a static IP, but I had opendns, and I asked the guy to just use their default stuff on my win 7 laptop and I woudl get the rest going later but I fear something is out of whack with all of that
[13:27] <wrst> I think they changed backbones and I don't think my static IP will work now but I may be wrong
[13:30] <pricew> That's odd.  So, your Win 7 laptop was working when he left?
[13:32] <wrst> yes, but he turned it off and disconnected the network cable... kinda wish he had left it on :)
[13:32] <wrst> and that's all I was wanting to get internet working on something and I can handle the rest easy enough
[13:32] <wrst> I felt sorry for the guy doing the repairs because he told me he didn't know much about computers :D
[13:33] <wrst> I'm going to call the repair dept. again to let them know where I left the key etc when they open up
[13:47] <pricew> wrst: Yea, many times it is a "phone guy" that has been given the task of doing computer networking and they just don't have the background.
[13:48] <wrst> no and I feel sorry for them really, because its not their fault, I have to admit I have had to remind myself to be patient :)
[13:48] <wrst> but they are really nice guys they can't help it they just don't know
[14:06] <wrst> pricew: they are supposed to have someone on it
[14:07] <pricew> wrst: cool.
[14:07] <wrst> but they did on monday and tuesday also pricew :\
[14:10] <pricew> My friend there is a computer guy, so maybe he can help them.
[14:10] <wrst> I hope so I'm starting to get a little frustrated
[14:11] <pricew> wrst: I know how you feel.  I went throught the same thing with Charter.
[14:11] <wrst> yeah I'm about ready to pull the plug on them if they don't get it today
[14:12] <pricew> Do you have other options?
[14:26] <cyberanger> to some extent though, I'd think patience is up
[14:26] <cyberanger> unless they give you a clear(er) reason for this mishap
[14:27] <cyberanger> pricew: realistic options, not really (I asked the same question)
[14:27] <wrst> pricew: I do have a cable option but its not better than the current option
[14:27] <wrst> but if they can't fix it, that may be the only one :)
[14:28] <cyberanger> wrst: hughesnet and celluar too
[14:28] <cyberanger> but that to me is a last resort in your area
[14:29] <wrst> yeah cyberanger that's worse than what I have already :)
[14:30] <cyberanger> well, I am not a fan of hughesnet with other choices
[14:30] <cyberanger> but saying it's worse than what you have, while what you have is a droid
[14:31] <cyberanger> kinda says something
[14:31] <cyberanger> (to clarify, it says celluar works for you, dsl isn't)
[14:33] <cyberanger> I can only think of one time where I didn't have a great backup, visiting family in Hot Springs, AR
[14:34] <cyberanger> last year a cable in Benton, AR was damaged (wound up being a fiber optic line covering both providers and then some)
[14:35] <cyberanger> I didn't have the boost phone from the trip two months earlier, hadn't had the virgin mobile data card working yet (it was stubborn to setup)
[14:38] <cyberanger> got the dial up modem on that trip (was planning to anyhow, just as a backup and travel tool)
[14:38] <cyberanger> and that was a huge repair (at least one town in tourist season, and parts of one city, at least)
[14:39] <cyberanger> done in under 18 hours
[14:39] <cyberanger> yours is 3 days, 4 days? if they haven't told you why, I'd (politely) ask
[14:40] <cyberanger> all I can say wrst is I'm glad the droid works
[14:42] <wrst> ha ha cyberanger
[14:42] <wrst> wroking on day 5
[14:45] <cyberanger> (to me, this looks like a time to root it, grab cm7, install sshtunnel, use sshtunnel and then start tethering)
[14:46] <cyberanger> except, perhaps waiting for stable internet or at least time to focus wouldn't hurt
[14:47] <cyberanger> wrst: is yours just the original droid?
[14:47] <cyberanger> (my G2 is a pain to root, compared to most, but to me still easy, just time to get it right)
[14:48] <cyberanger> bbia(very short)b, gotta punch in
[14:57] <wrst> ok pricew looks like they had me setup at their office on dhcp and a static IP at my house, which is what I suspected
[14:58] <pricew> wrst: So, you think they got it up?
[15:01] <wrst> no the guy is going to the house i think they will have to change the modem or something out
[15:01] <wrst> i wanted to keep a static IP but just told them to forget it :0
[15:01] <wrst> meant :)
[15:04] <pricew> You would think they could change everything from the office.
[15:04] <wrst> yesterday the guy had to go get a modem sepcifically for a static ip he said... not for sure how all that works pricew
[15:09] <pricew> hmmm
[15:09] <wrst> all that seemed strange to me pricew
[15:10] <pricew> What would they do if you had your own modem?
[15:10] <wrst> beats me pricew
[15:10] <wrst> they really push for you to buy even a router, I guess to help them with support
[15:11] <pricew> In fact, I probably have an extra dsl modem at home somewhere.
[15:11] <pricew> If you don't want to rent theirs, that is.
[15:11] <wrst> well pricew I have 3 now after they proclaimed my modem was bad yesterday
[15:11] <wrst> :)
[15:11] <pricew> Maybe you should start your own DSL service.  :)
[15:11] <wrst> I may need to have a modem yard sale
[15:21] <cyberanger> wrst: that is serously not right
[15:22] <wrst> what's not right cyberanger?
[15:23] <cyberanger> needing a different modem for static
[15:24] <cyberanger> needing to give up a static, and needing a guy to head down there to do that
[15:24] <cyberanger> for dsl, really not right
[15:24] <wrst> oh I know cyberanger
[15:24] <cyberanger> dsl is just a tunnel
[15:24] <cyberanger> pppoe
[15:25] <wrst> but they will eventually hunt and peck and get it working or I will call the cable company tomorrow
[15:26] <wrst> cyberanger: they have been nice and have really tried I think they just don't know much
[15:26] <wrst> pricew: does twin lakes have a IT person that helps out with the DSL stuff?
[15:26] <cyberanger> wrst: is the dsl modem set up as a dumb modem, or a "smart modem"
[15:27] <wrst> cyberanger: I don't know... I'm thinking the whole system is pretty dumb right now ;) what's the difference?
[15:27] <cyberanger> difference is you can tell ubuntu to handle it, if it's dumb
[15:28] <cyberanger> or your router, for that matter
[15:28] <wrst> yeah cyberanger I normally use dd-wrt router, but for just getting it to work I have a Win 7 laptop sitting on the desk just wanting to get internet to it then I can handle the rest :)
[15:29] <cyberanger> wrst: tell dd-wrt to grab an address over ppoe, you should be running then
[15:29] <cyberanger> unless they've really screwed up
[15:29] <cyberanger> (not giving you a static you already had, did they explain that?)
[15:31] <wrst> cyberanger: I have it working now I beleive with dhcp which is fine just to have something working
[15:33] <cyberanger> is it dhcp or dhcp over pppoe
[15:33] <wrst> just dhcp
[15:33] <cyberanger> hrm, that's odd
[15:33] <wrst> or I beleive cyberanger that is correct I'm not really for certain
[15:33] <cyberanger> the modem is set for a smart mode, if it's just dhcp
[15:34]  * cyberanger wonders about your isp
[15:41] <wrst> cyberanger: I do too, they are great at phone service and repair, just not with the internet, it gets very frustrating, but they people are so nice its hard to get flat out mad
[15:43] <cyberanger> wrst: well, ask if they're hiring, I prefer that stuff, and I'm nice (well, ok, I have my moments ;-))
[15:44] <wrst> ha ha they could use you cyberanger
[15:44] <wrst> cyberanger: I know most of the repair guys so I just left a key so they could let themselves in if the lets you know what I think about them
[15:44] <wrst> just frustrated they couldn't get it fixed
[15:46] <pricew> wrst: A friend of mine helps them with their IT stuff, but I think that he just helps with their "internal" needs.  So, is it fixed?
[15:46] <cyberanger> well, some ways it does
[15:47] <cyberanger> unfortunately, still doesn't explain this mess
[15:47] <wrst> pricew: supposed to be, had to move to dhcp i just don't think they knew how to set the other up
[15:48] <pricew> wrst: cool.  Maybe you can tackle the static IP stuff on another day.  :)
[15:48] <wrst> pricew: I really think they would do well to hire someone, on their internet side think it would end up saving them money and having much happier customers
[15:49] <pricew> Probably so.
[15:49] <wrst> pricew: if it doesn't change often I won't really care, I take care of some stuff on comcast and it hasn't changed in two years
[15:49] <wrst> but I just feared with the setup they have everytime the modem restarted I would have a new IP address
[15:51] <pricew> ever used dyndns.com?
[15:52] <wrst> pricew: I think I may use that for our opendns setup at church
[15:53]  * wrst wonders if he is thinking of the right thing so checks it out
[15:53] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: pong
[15:54] <wrst> nope pricew thinking of something else but I might do that
[15:54] <wrst> probably a lot easier than gettting a static IP :)
[15:54] <pricew> yup.  :)
[15:56] <wrst> hmm and I see FREE pricew thats my favorite word
[15:56] <pricew> yup, mine too!
[15:57] <wrst> and that's my wifes mission number one
[15:58] <cyberanger> wrst: my favorite is sucess, but free is up there
[15:58] <wrst> cyberanger: i'm just cheap
[15:58]  * wrst wonders if pace_t_zulu has quit drooling over the latest Mac news
[15:59] <cyberanger> and if they were sucessful, in keeping your ip, it'd still be free
[15:59] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: see pm
[16:01] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: what news?
[16:01] <wrst> the OSX nes from this week about 10.7 :)
[16:01] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: no issues with that whatsoever
[16:02] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: yea... i'm bout to renew my ios developer program membership
[16:02] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: thinking about enrolling in mac developer program
[16:02] <pace_t_zulu> i'd have access to 10.7 developer preview 4
[16:02] <pace_t_zulu> i currently have access to ios 5 :D
[16:06] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: what about android
[16:06]  * cyberanger loves open sause, it tastes great
[16:10] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i reckon i have access to android as well
[16:10] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: do you really think google is open source?
[16:11]  * pace_t_zulu thinks google isn't really that open
[16:15] <cyberanger> depending on the item (this case android) yes
[16:15] <cyberanger> and android is, sure there are blobs I'm sure (there is in ubuntu for that matter)
[16:23] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: no... my point is they develop in a closed environment ... they occasionally snapshot the closed evironment to appease the open source folks
[16:24] <cyberanger> yeah, but does anyone do anything more (aside from openmoko)
[16:24] <cyberanger> Maemo is dead (which I hate, but it is)
[16:24] <cyberanger> one of Meego's backers ditched it for WM7
[16:26] <cyberanger> for a system that was fully closed for years, it's more progress in less time
[16:56] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: ping
[17:00] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: ping
[17:02] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: pong
[17:02] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: pm
[17:03] <wrst> waiting :)
[17:05] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: ping
[17:54] <cyberanger> sorry, ran to fetch lunch
[18:05] <pace_t_zulu> going to grab lunch... afk
[18:31] <Unit193> DynDNS used to have better addresses to pick from
[18:33] <cyberanger> there are other providers
[18:34] <Unit193> I got to keep my .homelinux one :D
[18:40] <wrst> hello infocop411 if that is your real name
[18:45] <cyberanger> hey wrst
[18:45] <cyberanger> charter is toying with me
[18:46] <wrst> ha ha atleast you are connected cyberanger!!
[18:48] <cyberanger> wrst: I've got too many connections
[18:49] <cyberanger> keeping me from the internets is as easy as keeping silvester stalone from boxing
[18:51] <wrst> cyberanger:  don't think i want to be that well connected :)
[18:56] <cyberanger> lol
[18:56] <wrst> its good to get away from being connected
[18:56] <cyberanger> One way or another though, it has to be ground zero or some disaster of equal magnitude to keep me offline
[18:57] <cyberanger> oh, I disconnect myself, but I ensure I've got options
[18:57] <cyberanger> (a curse from some logistic & anaylis backgrounds I guess)
[18:58] <cyberanger> I like the power of pulling the plug, somebody else doing it just doesn't fly
[19:19] <wrst> cyberanger: I understand that, but hopefully my plug will be hotter now, supposed to havea  10/1 connection now
[19:24] <cyberanger> nice
[19:25] <cyberanger> when girls hog the phone line, it's for calling boyfriends
[19:25] <cyberanger> when a geek hogs the line, you hear modem noise
[19:25] <cyberanger> I grew up hogging the line, then glued to the cable modem
[19:53] <pricew> wrst:  Welcome to broadband.  :)
[19:54] <wrst> ha ha pricew it should beat the 3.0/256 that I had
[19:54] <wrst> and I thought that was flying from where I had been
[19:55] <pricew> I got 30 on speedtest.net the other day from my cable modem.
[19:55] <wrst> pricew: that's just showing off ;)
[19:56] <pricew> That's as long as it stays up.  I sometimes get 0/0 for days at a time.  :)
[19:58] <wrst> ha ha
[19:58] <wrst> that's what I have had working on 5 days, but I think its up now
[19:58] <wrst> what usually causes your down time pricew?
[20:00] <pricew> Faulty equipment the last three times.  2 times was a signal booster and the other was some kind of grounding block.
[20:03] <wrst> nice hey atlest they know what went wrong ;)
[20:05] <cyberanger> wrst: it's always helpful to know what failed, unfortunately the ISP's don't make that easy
[20:05] <cyberanger> pricew: signal booster, wifi?
[20:16] <pricew> cyberanger: it was to boost the cable signal. Something like this:  http://wall-brackets.manufacturer.supplierlist.com/productsimages/tvsignalbooster_143672.jpg
[20:21] <cyberanger> ah, intresting, never heard anyone use them for actual cable though (not that it couldn't be done, just never heard it done)
[20:22] <pricew> Yea, I think I've just got a weak signal.
[23:05] <wrst_> woot
[23:05] <wrst_> I have internets!
[23:05] <chris4585> yay
[23:06] <wrst_> yay indeed gotta restart it a time or two
[23:07] <cyberanger> pricew: happens (I've thought about doing that myself to compensate with signal loss)